Microwave rifle: future and advantages

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Microwave rifle: future and advantages
Microwave modifications and configurations for the Russian army


At the end of 2023, the Kalashnikov concern handed over the first production batch of microwave sniper rifles to the Russian army. In the near future, shipment of serial weapons will become a regular and rhythmic process, due to which the army will begin a full-scale rearmament of sniper units. It is expected that the modern rifle, which has a number of characteristic features, will in the future supplant or even replace the well-deserved SVD, and will also give snipers new opportunities.



Rifle in service


The development of the future microwave started in 2016 and was carried out by specialists from the Kalashnikov concern under the leadership of A.Yu. Chukavina. Already in 2017, the first prototype of such a weapon was made for factory testing, and soon the product was demonstrated to the public. In 2017-21 The new rifle went through the entire cycle of testing and fine-tuning, as a result of which it received a recommendation for adoption by the Russian army.

In addition, at the later stages of testing, rifles of a new type found their way into sniper units and were tested in practice. According to available data, in 2022-23. they were even exploited in the zone of the Special Operation to protect Donbass.

About a year ago, in February 2023, the management of the Kalashnikov concern announced the start of preparations for mass production of microwave products at one of the existing sites. The start of the series was expected within the next few months. A few months later, they announced the preparation of a decree of the government of the Russian Federation, by which the rifle would be accepted for service.

Finally, on December 26, 2023, the Kalashnikov concern announced that its Weapons Production Division had produced the first production batch of microwaves. It successfully passed acceptance by the Ministry of Defense and was shipped to the customer. In the near future, the products of the first batch should reach combat units and go into operation.


As reported, microwave rifles have previously been manufactured in batches of different sizes. At the same time, the recent launch of a full-fledged series provides for an increase in volumes and production rates. According to Kalashnikov, in 2023 the production of rifles has increased tenfold compared to previous periods. In the new year 2024, it is planned to reach a pace that meets customer requirements. However, specific numbers, for obvious reasons, are not made public.

Previously, it was repeatedly stated that the Chukavin rifle was being considered as a modern replacement for the old and well-deserved Dragunov rifle. However, the customer and the microwave developer have not yet announced whether a complete replacement of the older model is planned and in what time frame it can be carried out. The size of the accumulated arsenals may require a production program lasting almost tens of years.

New sample


Let us recall that the microwave product is a self-loading sniper rifle designed to hit “soft” targets at distances of up to 1-1,2 km. When creating it, the accumulated experience in the development and operation of weapons of this class was used, as well as ideas that were new for domestic army weapons. The resulting rifle bears virtually no resemblance to the old SVD, which should provide certain advantages.

The microwave is built according to a traditional design with a linear arrangement of the barrel, bolt group and return mechanism. In this case, the so-called curtain design of the receiver: its main unit is U-shaped and accommodates moving parts, and the cover with the trigger mechanism is placed at the bottom. The automation is based on a gas engine with a short stroke of the piston; There is a gas regulator. The bolt is rotary with three lugs. The USM provides only single shots. There are controls on both sides of the rifle. Trigger force is adjustable.


Rifle chambered for 7,62x51 mm NATO, equipped with a silencer

Three rifle options are offered. The basic one, known as SHF-54, uses the domestic 7,62x54 mm R cartridge. Modifications for 7,62x51 mm NATO and 8,6x70 mm / .338 Lapua Magnum ammunition have also been developed. Box magazines with 10 or 20 rounds are used. The magazine for 7,62x54 mm R ammunition is borrowed from the SVD rifle.

7,62 mm microwave modifications can be equipped with barrels with a length from 410 to 565 mm; The 8,6mm option is 560mm only. Depending on the barrel used, the length of the weapon can exceed 1 m. Weight - 4,3 kg (7,62 mm version) or 6,3 kg (.338 LM).

On the upper edge of the receiver there is a long Picatinny rail for mounting sighting devices. The short bar is located under the forend. A folding buttstock of a telescopic design with an adjustable cheekpiece is used.

Clear benefits


The SHF rifle was created as a modern example of the same class as the old, well-deserved SVD. In this regard, the Chukavin rifle is being considered as a future replacement for the Dragunov rifle, and it makes sense to compare the two designs. At the same time, it is not difficult to notice that the new model has certain advantages over its predecessor, which can determine its future and the prospects for rearmament of the army.

A number of strengths of the microwave project are associated with its general novelty. The creators of the modern rifle had the opportunity to study and use the experience of development, production and operation of the SVD product. Various conclusions were drawn from this experience, thanks to which, already at the general concept stage, the microwave rifle began to compare favorably with the previous model, received important positive features and did not inherit its shortcomings.


Сontrols

Novelty of a technical and technological nature is also important. The microwave design uses modern alloys and non-metallic materials. Rifle parts are manufactured using modern technologies. All this allows you to increase technical characteristics and/or optimize production and its cost.

The creators of microwaves wisely used available technologies, materials and technical solutions, thanks to which they managed to obtain high tactical and technical characteristics. In terms of basic parameters, the new rifle is at least as good as the existing SVD, and in some respects it is superior to it. In particular, accuracy has increased by 25-30 percent, which has a positive effect on overall combat effectiveness in various situations.

When creating microwaves, much attention was paid to packaging issues, and the current modular principle is used in this area. Thus, in accordance with the needs and wishes of the shooter, the rifle can be equipped with different types of sights. The use of different muzzle devices is envisaged - flame arresters and silent firing devices.

Modern ideas in the field of ergonomics, both modular and otherwise, were used. Thus, the Picatinny rail provides some flexibility in installing and adjusting the sight. It is possible to use different types of bipods that suit the shooter. The trigger and butt are not replaceable, but provide adjustment for user convenience.


Microwave rifle chambered for .338 LM

It is noteworthy that the microwave rifle can be produced in three modifications for different ammunition, and this significantly improves its commercial prospects. Potential customers represented by foreign armies will be able to choose a weapon option to match their existing ammunition - and receive a modern sniper rifle without the need to rebuild the weapons system and logistics. Moreover, the choice of three cartridges covers the needs of the vast majority of the world's armies.

It should be noted that two modifications of the microwave for 7,62 mm cartridges of the domestic and NATO standard have a similar design, and the rifle for .338 LM differs from them. This shows the fundamental possibility of modifying and rebuilding weapons for different ammunition. If there is appropriate demand, it is possible to develop new modifications for other cartridges of interest to the customer.

The modern approach


The Dragunov sniper rifle entered service with the Soviet army in the early sixties, and at that time was the best model in its class. Subsequently, the requirements for such weapons were adjusted, and the domestic industry tried to modernize the original SVD design with varying results and successes. However, now the need for further updating of this product is in doubt, which led to the start of the development of a completely new sniper rifle.

Over the course of several years, the microwave rifle went through a full cycle of development, testing and refinement, and also showed its potential in the real combat zone. It completely satisfied the Ministry of Defense, and now serial microwave products are being supplied to the troops. So far we are talking only about the first batches, but gradually the number of Chukavin rifles in the army will increase.

It is obvious that for a certain time, two types of sniper rifles will be operated and used in parallel. At the same time, the army will be able to compare them again and draw conclusions. And we can expect that the modern microwave rifle will fully show its potential and become a worthy replacement for the famous SVD.
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  1. +23
    10 January 2024 05: 21
    thanks to which the microwave rifle is already at the general concept stage began to stand out favorably from the previous sample, received important positive features и did not inherit his shortcomings.

    It seems that at the current stage of work they are figuring out what exactly is different. exactly what positive features she received and what disadvantages she did not inherit. Because from this article it follows that either the author of the article does not know this, or the developers have not yet come up with it.
    The article is big and bold "-"
    1. +6
      10 January 2024 11: 05
      Quote: Amateur
      Because from this article it follows that either the author of the article does not know this, or the developers have not yet come up with it.

      The same author wrote an article on the same topic 2 weeks ago. Then he was reproached in the comments that rewriting Kalashnikov’s press releases is not his job - and Kalashnikov’s press releases are absolutely shoddy.

      The author took a second approach to the topic, so to speak. It's hard to understand why.
      1. +3
        10 January 2024 11: 34
        Quote: Negro
        The author took a second approach to the topic, so to speak. It's hard to understand why.

        I agree, colleague... we threw a lot of ideas at the fan there. Therefore, there is no point in grinding everything again.
        drinks hi
  2. +21
    10 January 2024 06: 19
    My favorite pastime as a child was the 6 km cross-country race as part of a division. I had a gas mask in my pouch and a good old AK. The traditional result of such a run was bruises all over the back from the machine gun. Therefore, carrying a machine gun correctly on your back is one of the most useful skills in life. Some smart guys unfastened the magazine and hid it in a gas mask bag. Supposedly it's easier to run this way. I don’t know how this rearrangement made running easier, but the bruises from the magazine latch were bloody to the flesh. The American M-16 gives me a feeling of persistent disgust, but it is smoother than the AK, and it is much easier to run with it. In this regard, I look at the current AK-12 and SHF and think: the designers were clearly modest and did not introduce studs for tires from ice speedway motorcycles into their design. Against the background of all sorts of cubic protrusions, cuts, rifling and grooves, such spikes would look very organic and would make the rifle system look more futuristic. Speaking seriously, I would really like to challenge the designers and those who put these systems into service with a six-kilometer race. So to speak, to test it on your own skin. This would easily make it possible to find out in practice whether I am right or just exaggerating.
    1. AUL
      +2
      10 January 2024 09: 15
      And SKS gave me a lot of bruises in my time! Only in the “on the neck” position I didn’t put much pressure on it, but it was uncomfortable to run like that.
    2. 0
      10 January 2024 10: 51
      I sympathize with your difficult childhood and do not beg for what is written above. Indeed, sometimes you look and think - “Christmas trees, how can that be?” hi
    3. +7
      10 January 2024 12: 48
      . then I would really like to drive the designers and those who adopted these systems into service with a six-kilometer cross-country race.


      Sound thought. But they won't run. The tasks are different.
      The idea of ​​the article is clear. Dragunov is obsolete. Not modern. The materials are not the same. In short, “grenades of the wrong system.” And no objective comparisons. At all. Take it as it is: “We began to dress better” (c). That's all.
      It seems to me that someone is simply malnourished and wants to swallow another piece. This is an example from life for understanding: someone tried to re-sing something from Magomayev, or Kobzon. But you can’t deceive people here, you can tell right away that it’s crap. And with Dragunov, only specialists will understand. And there are few of them. And they are silent.
      And here comes innovation!
    4. 0
      13 January 2024 21: 52
      For cross-country, you put two hands on the machine gun on the front of your neck, tighten the duffel bag so it doesn’t dangle, put the MPL in the duffel bag, pull the gas mask almost under your armpit and grab it with a belt, unbutton your gymnast, roll up your sleeves and run.
  3. +4
    10 January 2024 07: 15
    When cross-country, use the good old AKM either in the hand or like a partisan on the chest. They also threw me behind my back, I was so tired that there were no bruises, there were no bloody abrasions. Sergeant training Chebarkul summer 1983
  4. +3
    10 January 2024 07: 37
    It seems to me that in terms of performance characteristics it is not very different from the SVD, it would be fashionable to make it according to the bullpub design and the barrel would be longer and everything else would dance from it. But here, as usual, monopolists do what they want
    1. +6
      10 January 2024 13: 56
      The main difference from the SVD is upper/lower (yes, AR-15 design laughing ), which allows you to shoot the scope back and forth without zeroing and increases accuracy. The SVD has a side like this - take it off - shoot again in 90% of cases + as it wears out, the STP will start to wander. We usually handed over 500-1000 rounds to the “homeless” and received new ones. Well, and the fact that the recoil shoulder is coaxial with the barrel - this will allow you to quickly fire a second shot, which is actually the point of the SVD, because A company sniper is not a sniper as such - he is simply the best shooter in the company and, as a rule, conscripts and are not trained in camouflage, combat tactics, working in pairs, etc. This is simply strengthening the company at ranges from 300 to 600 meters. The company itself operates up to 300-400 meters. And if they go on to a contract, then they are already trained separately as snipers by specialization (look at my comments - I wrote here) and for them the SVD is already like a Kalashmat with optics

      Bullpap is not a panacea; in a sliding valve, it justifies itself by 146% (for example, KSVK). But using an IED, he was spat upon. Firstly, you need to get used to it separately, the balance is different + everything flies into the face from the chamber. in the database, I started with it, by the will of fate, having configured it from a bear (consider the civilian SVD almost 1 in 1, there are only rifling for hunting, there is no slotted and “cast” butt, and so on little things - I can’t even remember offhand right now) - in In general, more than 2 thousand shots and it was so unusual and uncomfortable for me.
      1. 0
        11 March 2024 18: 16
        Every time you remove the scope when putting it back, the rifle zeroes in. It even affects a bunch of 100 m at zeroing, and if we’re talking about 500+ m, then even more so.. The barrel affects the accuracy first of all... Make it heavy and the SVD will be much larger..
        1. 0
          11 March 2024 18: 24
          Are you a colleague and an archaeologist? lol
          On Marksman/company rifles in general, if there is a suspended barrel and picattini and a scheme (for example, upper/lower, on a semi-automatic) it almost guarantees repeatability. Well, yes, I shot it... Read the messages + - above below... the first is the heat of the chamber and the bullet entrance + wear of the rifling closer to the muzzle. But at Markman distances, which is 600-800 meters, where the bullet is still supersonic and not destabilized + derivation and magnus... it completely ensures normal repeatability. Temperature also matters here. But at subsonic levels, our 7N1s, and their .308s, are over-stabilized and no balkal will calculate the trajectory for you.
    2. 0
      11 January 2024 09: 51
      What is the bullpub layout for? To shorten the weapon? Here the butt is already made folding.
  5. -2
    10 January 2024 08: 30
    Yes, a good thing, but not as in demand as before. It is easier to train a drone operator than a sniper, and it is clear that the range of drones is many times higher. In the field, the crew of the anti-tank gun can act as a sniper.
    1. +4
      10 January 2024 09: 13
      Quote from Dimm588
      It's easier to train a drone operator than a sniper

      What does a drone have to do with it and what does a sniper have to do with it? request To be honest, the praise of unmanned aerial vehicles has already set my teeth on edge. If you listen to the “experts” and not just couch potatoes, it turns out that drones have already replaced all of us, including manned aircraft and long-range artillery and other types of troops. Now snipers can retire to a well-deserved rest. request
      1. +1
        10 January 2024 10: 19
        Moreover, the drone does what snipers used to do - remotely defeat the enemy. And they do it very well. Get used to it, this is the modern world, if you are not ready for change, perhaps it’s time for you and your sofa to retire..
        1. +2
          10 January 2024 10: 58
          Quote from Dimm588
          Get used to it, this is the modern world, if you are not ready for change, perhaps it’s time for you and your sofa to retire..

          This is all verbiage. Look, the average statistical range of a sniper is 300 - 1000 meters. The operation of the SVD sight, if my memory serves me correctly, is maximum 1300 meters. Are you planning to fly a drone like a kite at 500 meters?
          1. +7
            10 January 2024 11: 24
            Horses mixed up in a bunch of horses ... recourse
            They put everything under the same brush for the sniper:
            1. Company (infantry) - distances from 300 to 600 meters, depending on weather conditions and target visibility up to 800. They can walk in pairs, but more closely support the work of the squad/platoon with fire. Actually the SVD weapons. As a rule, they are selected from the riflemen of the company itself or by rotation, in fact conscripts
            2. Special/police - distances from 100 to 300, less often 400 meters. The weapon is usually on the short side AS VAL, a little further and if the work lasts for several hours - VSS
            3. The sniper itself - distances from 600 to 1,5 km, depending on the shooter and weapon. These are already separate trained shooters. Only a couple or sometimes free hunt. As a rule, category 1 based on results ultimately ends up in training. There are no conscripts here - preparing even 2 years in advance is very problematic as before, and even more so now
            4. Counter-sniper shooting - I think this is clear without explanation.

            Actually, the SVD was originally created as a 300-600 self-loading rifle for reinforcement! Moreover, the 7,62x54R cartridge was chosen precisely so as not to increase the range of ammunition... so the machine gunner and rotnik are sidekicks for life drinks Then the SVD was modified, the rifling length was reduced and a separate 7N1 cartridge was developed. And it’s no longer possible to shoot from it in bulk. Of course you can, but it's not worth it.

            Each type has its own tasks and goals. I wrote under the previous topic in December (our author is Estonian laughing)
        2. +2
          10 January 2024 12: 09
          the drone is now just an addition to everything
      2. +2
        10 January 2024 13: 21
        It turns out that all of our drones have already been replaced

        Unfortunately not everyone. It has not yet been possible to replace generals in the Defense Ministry and General Staff. There, some kind of “Geranium” would be more useful than Gerasimov.
    2. +3
      10 January 2024 11: 17
      What do snipers have to do with it? The microwave is only called a sniper rifle, but in fact it is a DMR - a marksman's rifle. It is intended for a mass shooter of line infantry at the platoon-squad level - a “fighter with an oar.”
      It’s just that because of the poverty of terminology, we are constantly trying to harness people into one cart horse and trembling doe shooter and sniper, although these are completely different categories.
      1. +4
        10 January 2024 11: 36
        Together we wrote in parallel... I briefly chewed a little higher. Actually, under the previous article I also wrote about this.
        Greetings Namesake! hi soldier Happy New Year and Merry Christmas! But don't relax.... soon Old laughing drinks
      2. 0
        15 January 2024 13: 42
        Quote: Alexey RA
        It’s just that, due to the poverty of terminology, we are constantly trying to harness the horse and the trembling doe of a shooter and a sniper into the same cart, although these are completely different categories.

        Well, yes, the Soviet army, with their WWII experience in sniper business, obviously never understood anything. SVD is a full-fledged sniper rifle of its time. The fact that the Union collapsed, and the individual training of infantry in the army was put on hold, does not in any way make our snipers Marxmen.
        1. 0
          15 January 2024 16: 16
          Quote: Obliterator
          The fact that the Union collapsed, and the individual training of infantry in the army was put on hold, does not in any way make our snipers Marxmen.

          What does individual training have to do with it? Our snipers are made riflemen by the OShS of motorized riflemen - they are included in platoons/squads and report to ordinary infantry commanders. Their task is to defeat targets on the battlefield during the battle, and not to crawl into position daily, shoot accurately and leave.
          Snipers in our army are fighters of individual sniper units, and not shooters of linear units.
          1. 0
            15 January 2024 17: 17
            Quote: Alexey RA
            What does individual training have to do with it? Our snipers are made riflemen by the OShS of motorized riflemen - they are included in platoons/squads and report to ordinary infantry commanders. Their task is to defeat targets on the battlefield during the battle, and not to crawl into position daily, shoot accurately and leave.
            Snipers in our army are fighters of individual sniper units, and not shooters of linear units.

            What do you mean?! These are all snipers. During the Second World War, Soviet snipers both went on free hunts and acted as part of units during attack and defense. German snipers also fought in all battles.
            That. the fact that training is not moving forward, and our snipers receive SVD, and not more accurate modern models, does not make the Westerners any worse.
  6. +8
    10 January 2024 09: 56
    The 7N1 bullet loses speed to transonic at 900 meters at +25 or at 700 meters at -25; when passing the transonic section (conditionally from 1.1 speed of sound), the bullet begins to “chatter”, as a result of which the accuracy is significantly reduced.
    For a microwave with a short barrel, the accurate firing range may be even lower than for an SVD.
    To solve this problem you need to switch to 6,5 mm. as the shooting community has already done and the US Army is doing (switching to 6.8*51).
    The rifle itself is only part of the shooting complex; it is not clear what kind of sight the microwave will have.
    The USA for its analogue of the SVD, the XM7 rifle, uses a sighting system with a magnification of 1-8 with a built-in rangefinder, a ballistic calculator with a temperature, pressure, wind sensor and a compass indicating angles (extremely convenient for explaining where the enemy is).
    The USA has a rifle with a new cartridge with better ballistics and an advanced sighting system.
    We have a rifle chambered for the century before last with an unknown sight. Of the domestic sights, Daedalus has good glass, but to realize its capabilities at long distances you need to be a very well-trained shooter. The American sight simplifies and reduces aiming time.
    1. +3
      10 January 2024 10: 32
      We have a rifle chambered for the century before last with an unknown sight.

      In the sights of the last century - Krasnogorsk 1P88.
    2. -2
      10 January 2024 15: 14
      It's probably something else. Caliber 5,45 works up to 400 m, 7,62 up to 800 m, 8,6 up to 1200 m. AK12 works 5,45, microwave 7,62 and 8,6. Everything seems to be rational.
      1. +4
        10 January 2024 15: 50
        With one clarification, I will repeat it again in this topic. .338 EXPORT! option. The quality of our .338LM leaves nothing to be desired - and all the packs, even within the batch, are like at the market... buy 4 shawarmas - collect a cat! Even in one pack there can be cartridges of 3!!!!x varnish coatings. The alignment shows the sleeve overhang +- 0.3!!!! mm I’m not talking about the weight and quality of the gunpowder, as well as the sinking of the bullet and its quality! Compared to Norman, for example, it’s the same as comparing the Tsar’s 7,62x54R with our 7N1 (although the latter also suffers in quality, half of all were given to machine gunners and only 5-10% went to duty/database, which +- gave the same amount and were verified both by inspection and by reference (also known as “verification”) and external measurements.
        Quote: Andrey2912
        7,62 to 800 m

        I dare to disappoint - no more than 700 even 7N1, and at low temperatures this is with interference. Only if reloaded + reconciled.
        1. -1
          10 January 2024 15: 58
          But this is a fact from the past, with cartridges. Probably the future will be different, if these rifles are sold, then there are options for cartridges for them, and if the most scarce ones have gone ahead (in theory), then replacing the SVD may have to wait, but for long-range shots it is already in production.
          1. +4
            10 January 2024 16: 06
            The 7,62x54R and I were not suffering from a good life. Easier to make. The cartridge is centered not by the slope, but by the welt itself, and it is possible to stamp without such tolerances. For pugs and PKMs, this does not matter... for sniper weapons, alas... the difference in the ejection of the cartridge case and the landing of the bullet greatly affects the speed of the bullet - and, accordingly, the internal ballistics
            1. The bullet enters the bullet section differently
            2. + - the volume of the powder chamber, as a result, the pressures are different. I think there is no point in mentioning that the burning rate of gunpowder directly depends on pressure. This sometimes gives a spread of +-10ms. When shooting at a range of 600+, when the bullet begins to reach subsonic range, it slowly affects stability. It’s not for nothing that the SVD was re-barreled for the 7N1 - the rifling was made smaller.

            The initial specification of the SVD is to shoot within 2MOA at 600 meters with a GROSS machine gun cartridge (LPS). Then it was modernized (7N1 + rifling stroke and tolerances were increased)
            1. -1
              10 January 2024 16: 19
              Look for yourself, in the last post about microwaves, in the topic about the cartridge, I wrote an assumption. Like, you take any 3D printer, reprint its head on another 3D printer, at the same time printing out packaging for shell casings and bullets, which you put on the printer table (together with shell casings and cartridges, and you pour gunpowder into the head). So, any cheapest printer will ensure the accuracy of assembling cartridges with approximately the same quality - the temperature of the cartridge cases and bullets during assembly is up to a degree, the drying temperature of the gunpowder is up to a degree, the packaging of gunpowder is up to 0,5 mm^3 for the entire volume.
              1. +3
                10 January 2024 16: 27
                Do you know an AK patriot who is not ours? Brandon Herrera? (or Herrera). So - he came up with the wet idea of ​​​​creating an AK-50. A rifle according to the AK pattern under .50BMG. So the cart has been there for a couple of years now and is still there. Despite the fact that the 3rd model was previously developed on a computer with a dynamic model and the operation of the automation was checked on a 3D printer.

                I don’t deny that it’s possible, even in the near future, that the shaft will be produced not the old fashioned way, but with 3D printers or powder (and 3D is essentially powder with laser sintering)... but it’s unlikely that it will come to a more mass-produced caliber (6-9mm), because it is not economically profitable.
                1. -1
                  10 January 2024 16: 35
                  No, I’m talking about simpler printers, they are better prepared for this, there are a minimum of changes - instead of plastic, press gunpowder and adapt the freed manipulations to capture and seat a bullet, there’s enough freed up to go through with varnish with a marker.
                  1. +2
                    10 January 2024 16: 39
                    I'm actually talking about the cartridge, incl. I do not deny the creation of both weapons and cartridges (bullets and cartridges) completely (well, not 100%) based on powder metallurgy (simply sintering under pressure or 3D printing). But this 100% will not be a mass-produced weapon for conscripts - but a highly specialized weapon for specialists.
                    There is no substitute for a rotationally cold forged barrel, etc.
            2. +1
              11 January 2024 08: 30
              Quote from Enceladus
              It’s not for nothing that the SVD was re-barreled for the 7N1 - the rifling was made smaller.

              Not for 7N1, but for B-32. The armor-piercing guns from the SVD flew poorly. That is why the rifling pitch was reduced, not to 280 mm, as Dragunov proposed, but to 240 mm, as on a machine gun. As a result, accuracy worsened, but the armor-piercing guns stopped tumbling.
        2. -1
          10 January 2024 15: 59
          But this is a fact from the past, with cartridges. Probably the future will be different, if these rifles are sold, then there are options for cartridges for them, and if the most scarce ones have gone ahead (in theory), then replacing the SVD may have to wait, but for long-range shots it is already in production.
      2. +2
        10 January 2024 15: 55
        It's probably something else. Caliber 5,45 works up to 400 m, 7,62 up to 800 m, 8,6 up to 1200 m. AK12 works 5,45, microwave 7,62 and 8,6. Everything seems to be rational.


        Why would the .338 be self-loading?
        It has a strong recoil and you still can’t shoot it quickly with a deuce or with your hands. But the accuracy of self-loading is noticeably lower than that of bolt action.
        In the previous topic, Enceladus talked about how he reloaded cartridges to achieve an accuracy of 1.3-1.5 minutes. This is precisely the technical accuracy of the SVD that cannot be “jumped over”. Microwave accuracy is stated to be about a minute. This is enough for a Marksman rifle - a reinforcement rifle. But for long distances and “piece” snipers, you need better weapons.
        During the holidays I was at the shooting range. The comrade from the Turkish chatter did not leave Barnaul for a minute with a cheap re-barrel of 30-ruble bullets, the best result was 0,6.
        Another from the Italian with good bullets collected consistently for half a minute, the best result was 0,35.
        It is unlikely that a similar result can be achieved with a large-caliber self-loading gun.
  7. +2
    10 January 2024 13: 35
    I read it. The water is watery.
    So why is microwave better than SVD?
    About the "bar", butt and new materials - this goes without saying.
  8. +2
    10 January 2024 14: 29
    In the comments under the previous post, many (including myself) wrote that microwaves as a replacement for SVDs (there are no questions about the option in other calibers) are useless. Because there are the same SVD-M and tuning kits from SAG, which increase the capabilities of the SVD. And the SVD itself is becoming obsolete not so much structurally as due to the obsolescence of the 7.62 caliber (both ours and foreign ones). And therefore, creating a replacement using the same cartridge... This is stupid.
    1. +4
      10 January 2024 14: 59
      Yes, in general, everything is clear in the picture.
      A lot of things were developed earlier on an initiative basis in the 90s-2000s (AEK, AN-94, dart, PMM, etc., etc.) or as part of competitions and died in the Bose... but here it’s just a mess from Kalashnikov - everything that they don’t come up with is immediately put into service.
      1. +5
        10 January 2024 16: 04
        At the same time, it is worth noting: what could really help our army, namely a light machine gun under 5.45 in the form of the RPL-20, is in no hurry to get into the army, unlike the microwave, AK-12 and others. Here the smell is not just of drinking, but of drinking + purposeful sabotage.
        1. +2
          10 January 2024 16: 14
          Well, the RPK-74 is a pretty evil thing, despite the lack of tape power. In fact, RPL became interested only at the beginning of 2010 and then under the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It is built according to a different scheme - classically with an open bolt firing, a long piston stroke, etc. Overall it should be a good thing, but it’s still being perfected
  9. +6
    10 January 2024 17: 32
    In general, let's summarize.... if I were given a choice right now. purely theoretically. I’ll say right away that neither I nor any of my guys have ever held a microwave in their hands.

    Advantage of microwave
    1. lower/upper and therefore better repeatability
    2. Possibility (if there is enough drool) - install normal optics
    3. Zero recoil shoulder + repeatable 2nd shot

    Disadvantages
    1. Get used to it (cleaning, lubricating and caressing)
    2. It is not clear the availability and volumes of AF (usm, gas... and, in fact, the possibility of re-barreling)
    3. Barrel resource??? (it’s clear that it’s chrome-plated, about the manufacturing method, etc.)
    4. No real-life application statistics
    5. A shorter barrel, although the stated MOAs are smaller (but from the information it is clear that they are writing for .338)

    + - it was a waste of time
    1. Quality of cartridges - no plans fool negative Both ours and theirs, although if you get the standard ones, I think they’re ok)
    2. DTK - I’m familiar with KSVK... if the gap doesn’t burn you so much, then as a compensator at such a range it’s an epic fail. Changeability again? (if anyone held a candle, please correct me). After the shot, the KSVK is needed immediately!!! change position... because he is firing at you unpreparedly - like you’re shooting from a D-30. A prepared position is needed, which is not implied in her role.

    So in the end what will I say? An old horse does not spoil the furrow. I would prefer a calibrated SVD, even if it has a resource of 500-1000 rounds, than a pig in a poke. A sniper, especially a company sniper, makes mistakes just like a sapper.
    1. He is on the front... the distance is shorter + counter-sniper fire is possible (see below... follows)
    2. Retraining of skills is required, incl. intuitive - can be partially compensated by the choice of sights, of course, but again - at your own expense
    3. The quality of the cartridges does not allow you to realize greater potential
  10. ASM
    +1
    10 January 2024 20: 27
    The SVD had a specific goal - to provide the troops, the actual troops attacking the troops, with sniper support. It is to the troops - for prof. snipers in pairs, other weapons and optical instruments were selected. When you have a sniper running in a platoon, all his muscles will shake - it will be difficult for him to hit even at 300 m. Then they lay down, the mortar men probed the surroundings, the sniper rested a little and went about his business. Here it is important to have a weapon comparable in reliability to assault rifles. And he will complete his mission. This mission is not at all similar to the task of sniper hunters.
  11. +1
    10 January 2024 20: 34
    Quote from Enceladus

    So in the end what will I say? An old horse does not spoil the furrow. I would prefer a calibrated SVD, even if it has a resource of 500-1000 rounds, than a pig in a poke. A sniper, especially a company sniper, makes mistakes just like a sapper.
    1. He is on the front... the distance is shorter + counter-sniper fire is possible (see below... follows)
    2. Retraining of skills is required, incl. intuitive - can be partially compensated by the choice of sights, of course, but again - at your own expense
    3. The quality of the cartridges does not allow you to realize greater potential

    If the benefit is not tenfold, the laws will not be changed,” said Gongsun Yang.
    Of course, a mass-produced rifle is not a law... And yet.
    This sage said a lot more 300 years BC. X. In particular:
    - People who do not work, but eat; they do not fight, but enjoy glory; have no ranks of nobility, but are highly respected; do not receive a salary, but are rich; do not serve, but occupy a high position - all these are criminal people.https://shoyher.narod.ru/Portret/shanyan.jpg
  12. +1
    10 January 2024 20: 34
    The "bottom cover with trigger mechanism" is called the trigger box. How long can you repeat Amer’s bullshit?
  13. 0
    11 January 2024 20: 51
    Why not use a bullpup configuration on a sniper rifle, because this will lengthen the barrel, which will increase accuracy, and also increase bullet speed, and therefore range and penetration.
    Well, or you can just make it more compact.
  14. +1
    12 January 2024 22: 42
    This phrase “In terms of basic parameters, the new rifle is at least not inferior to the existing SVD” speaks for itself. So why do you need a new rifle? And what is its cost? So maybe this is the point of the new rifle, to bring new money to manufacturers?
  15. 0
    13 January 2024 21: 40
    Accuracy has been improved by 25-30%, i.e. Is the microwave equal to the Mosinka model of 1891?
    And how much percent has the cost increased compared to SVD?
    However, the questions are rhetorical. I know the answers to them.
  16. 0
    16 January 2024 13: 41
    Quote: John22
    The "bottom cover with trigger mechanism" is called the trigger box. How long can you repeat Amer’s bullshit?

    Yes, this is true for AR-shaped ones.
    We’re all running to the ormags, civilian versions of the microwave have appeared:
    Only 110 rubles on the secondary market.

    https://gunsbroker.ru/hunting/625601_vpo-177.html
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