Rare tank destroyer "Object-14" unearthed in Kharkov

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Rare tank destroyer "Object-14" unearthed in Kharkov
In this condition, the nationalists found a prototype of the floating tank "Object-14"


"Glider"


A significant event happened behind enemy lines in early December 2023 - after a Russian missile attack, a 125-mm self-propelled gun was found in one of the workshops of an unnamed enterprise in Kharkov. Several conclusions follow from this. Firstly, one can only rejoice at the accuracy and selectivity of the Russian army’s strikes. Secondly, the wealth and inexhaustibility of technical stories The Soviet state never ceases to amaze. It seems that with the advance of the Russian army to the west, we will see many more museum values ​​from the storerooms of the Kharkov armored and tractor factories. Thirdly, the situation with armored vehicles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is so complicated that they have to patch holes in the fleet with outright antiques.



At the same time, there is no reliable evidence that the self-propelled 125-mm cannon, known as the “Object-14”, is operational and capable of fighting. Photos of not the best quality appeared on the network from the enemy side, showing a seven-wheel chassis devoid of caterpillar tracks. The turret is a welded turret of a unique design, never seen before on domestic equipment. The main caliber is a 125 mm cannon. The chassis of the combat vehicle is unusually squat with a large angle of inclination of the upper frontal part. There are serious doubts that the militants managed to bring the vehicle into combat condition - the product can hardly move under its own power, let alone fight. Otherwise, Bandera’s Internet resources would have long ago been full of brave photographs of a functional armored vehicle.

Among the distinctive features of the presented product is a massive self-entrenching knife hung in front of the lower armor part. Moreover, in one of the photos it is missing - only fastening points are present. Based on the above, we have before us an example of late Soviet engineering creativity, belonging to the class of tank destroyers or light amphibious tanks. One of the ancestors of the modern Russian Sprut-SD car.


The main goal of the Planer R&D was to replace the tinned Motolyga in the army. For reference, the theme “Planer-1” included the development of a new generation MTLB

It is simply impossible to pass by such an artifact of Soviet technical history, especially since there is not much information about Object-14. To understand the goals and objectives of creating such an interesting object, it is necessary to remember the well-deserved “Motolyga” or the multi-purpose tracked vehicle MTLB. The real queen of special operations in Ukraine, Motolyga appeared in the army back in 1964 and by the end of the 80s required replacement. Despite all the merits and features, MTLB quickly became outdated, primarily morally. The military thought so, first of all. As a result, in 1985, the Main Armored Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Defense formulated requirements for a new platform intended to replace the Motolyga.




Experienced "Planer-1" in the version of a multi-purpose armored personnel carrier-tractor. The image is enlarged using neural networks

What didn’t suit the military in MTLB? Yes, almost everything - from symbolic security to low power density. It must be said that the requirements for the new MTLB were laid out with a large margin. For example, the crew had to live in the car for at least a day without any problems, and a hydrostatic mechanical transmission was introduced into the chassis. The latter significantly increased the ease of control of the armored vehicle and traction capabilities, but was expensive and difficult to manufacture and operate. The development of a transmission that has no analogues in the country was undertaken by the Kharkov Module Design Bureau at the FED plant. The abbreviation of the company's name stands for Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky. But let’s return to the armored vehicle itself, the experimental design work (R&D) for which it received the name “Glider”. Since the developer of the MTLB at one time was the special equipment department of the Kharkov Tractor Plant, the specialists of this particular department were tasked with creating a new generation machine.

Kharkov failure


A little earlier than the “Glider” topic, the Soviet Union began designing amphibious armored vehicles with guns of caliber from 120 to 152 mm. One of the products was the experimental self-propelled gun 2S18 “Pat-S” from Kurganmashzavod. The 152 mm gun was based on the BMP-3 platform. The self-propelled gun was not adopted, but later it was transformed into the 120-mm Vienna gun. Around the same period, work was underway in Kharkov on the Object-14 amphibious light tank, one of the prototypes of which was dug up by Bandera’s men under the rubble in Kharkov. The basis for the vehicle was the same “Glider”, developed to replace the MTLB. More precisely, even MTLB, that is, an elongated tracked vehicle with seven rollers on board. The experimental development received a separate name “Planer-1”. The Planera-1 chassis was also considered to accommodate the Pat system guns and the Sprut light tank. A distinctive feature of the chassis was its low silhouette, which is why on reservoirs the 20-ton product went under water almost up to the tower.




At the top is a chassis with a 152 mm gun, at the bottom is a 120 mm Nona-2. Both based on Planer-1 from Kharkov

The large angle of inclination of the upper frontal plate and the low profile of the body caused the driver to sit, as if in an Abrams, in a semi-recumbent position. In some variations, the driver could rise up and view the surrounding reality through a sealed cap with glass. It is not known whether the idea is being implemented on the Kharkov “Glider” with a 125-mm tank gun, but there is every reason to believe that the low chines of the turret and the gun still interfere with this. But the turret with a 152-mm cannon in the Pat self-propelled gun made it possible to drive the vehicle in a traveling manner with the head outside, which is confirmed by the sketches.






Layout of the driver-mechanic in the "Glider"

One of the reasons why they abandoned the Glider was the massive transition to self-propelled artillery. It seemed to military analysts that the new “Motolyga” simply would not find its way into the army. Part of the artillery fleet will switch to tracked vehicles, and the remaining MTLBs will handle the transportation of the remaining guns. In addition, the design solutions incorporated into the Planer did not allow it to achieve tangible superiority over the previous machine. The parameters largely coincided with Motolyga, but the cost was off the charts. It turned out that if MTLB was outdated, it was only morally - from a technical point of view, it was quite relevant for the end of the 20th century. With big reservations regarding armor and mine protection, Motolyga is still good.




The same “Object-14”, found under the rubble, most likely, of the Kharkov Tractor Plant. Enemy watermarks removed

As for “Object-14”, unearthed in Kharkov, its fate is unenviable. This museum exhibit is asking to be included in the “Patriot” exhibition, and not in the hands of nationalists. Moreover, it is unlikely that it will be possible to put it in order in Ukraine. Enemy commentators hint at the complete interchangeability of the fighting compartment of the T-64 and the Object-14. Even if this is so, the performance of the hydrostatic mechanical transmission is a big question. After more than thirty years of inactivity, the unit is clearly a sad sight. It will also not be possible to remove and install the transmission from the MTLB in this place - the layout and dimensions of the MTO will not allow it. So all that remains is to brag about the glorious Soviet heritage - Bandera’s information reason is not capable of anything more.
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  1. +33
    8 January 2024 05: 39
    Thanks for the article. But here are the “watermarks”... Why couldn’t we use the definition “watermarks”, which has long been used in the Russian language?
    1. +1
      8 January 2024 10: 31
      I already thought that they dug up a T-14 Armata that had been captured... I don’t know a damn thing about tanks request
      1. +6
        8 January 2024 19: 56
        the designer and creators of the motor league had no idea about its longevity and all kinds of weapon options!
        1. +2
          8 January 2024 21: 58
          The design bureau only laid the prospects. And technology and practice, the creativity of workers and craftsmen, foremen, were developed over 40 years of production and general repairs. Minor changes - technology.
          Mtlb has fallen into the popular rut. Does it look like a tractor?
        2. 0
          9 January 2024 10: 50
          Yes, in the absence of any other similar mass equipment in the troops, MTLB is of course in demand. Not from a good life.
    2. AB
      +1
      9 January 2024 09: 09
      I'm also indignant. Moreover, such an “assumption” can be found not only in this article.
  2. +5
    8 January 2024 05: 44
    New copy in "Var Tander".
    1. +11
      8 January 2024 05: 58
      We may seem to be Russians, but we pervert Pushkin’s language.
      1. -9
        8 January 2024 07: 16
        Explain what is the perversion in this particular case?
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      3. -1
        8 January 2024 23: 23
        Quote: carpenter
        We may seem to be Russians, but we pervert Pushkin’s language.

        What should we learn Ethiopian now?!!
      4. +1
        10 January 2024 18: 32
        Are you talking about French?

        Mon ami, je vous parlerai la langue de l’Europe, elle m’est plus familiare que la notre


        The first lines of Pushkin’s letter to P.Ya. Chaadaev dated July 6, 1831, written in excellent French.

        Any educated person knows that in the time of Pushkin the language of any educated person was French. And Pushkin himself was no exception, speaking, writing, and reading in French.
  3. -4
    8 January 2024 06: 29
    Quote: carpenter
    We may seem to be Russians, but we pervert Pushkin’s language.

    Considering that the Russian language has changed since the time of Pushkin, this cannot be called a perversion. Language development is normal.
    1. Alf
      +9
      8 January 2024 17: 56
      Quote: Skobaristan
      Language development is normal.

      “Development” is one thing, but “perversion” is quite another. For example, the tired expression “casting” instead of “selection”, etc.
      1. +2
        8 January 2024 22: 43
        Map instead of instructions!
        These words are annoying
        1. +3
          9 January 2024 10: 25
          Quote: 75Sergey
          Map instead of instructions!

          This has been the case for a long time - technological maps (essentially the same instructions for performers of a particular technological process) were available back in Soviet times.
      2. +3
        9 January 2024 20: 07
        Quote: Alf
        For example, the tired expression “casting” instead of “selection”, etc.
        Reply
        Quote

        I hope you also speak Russian in everyday life, a self-running stroller and not perverting the language with the word car? I hope the analogy is clear.
        1. Alf
          0
          9 January 2024 20: 09
          “Development” is one thing, but “perversion” is quite another.
          1. +5
            9 January 2024 20: 12
            Quote: Alf
            “Development” is one thing, but “perversion” is quite another.
            Reply
            Quote

            I gave you an example. As for selection and casting, everything is also very simple. The word selection is applicable in a broad sense to many things. Casting is a highly specialized word and it’s immediately clear what we’re talking about. And borrowing words is normal; this is also a feature of the Russian language. Are you not satisfied? ....then a self-running stroller. Or in general Pushkin’s language please.
            1. Alf
              -1
              9 January 2024 20: 15
              Quote: Skobaristan
              As for selection and casting, everything is also very simple. The word selection is applicable in a broad sense to many things. Casting is a highly specialized word and it’s immediately clear what we’re talking about. And borrowing words is normal; this is also a feature of the Russian language. Are you not satisfied? ....then a self-running stroller. Or in general Pushkin’s language please.

              When you were choosing a TV in the store, did you tell your wife, “I did a casting of TV models or did I choose from stock?”
              1. +4
                9 January 2024 20: 26
                Quote: Alf
                Did I cast TV models or did I choose from stock?

                It turns out you don’t understand the meaning of the word casting.
                1. Alf
                  -3
                  9 January 2024 20: 28
                  Quote: Skobaristan
                  Quote: Alf
                  Did I cast TV models or did I choose from stock?

                  It turns out you don’t understand the meaning of the word casting.

                  If you have nothing to say about the fact, then you should go to Meehan, he is also a master of talking a lot and about nothing.
    2. +1
      9 January 2024 09: 55
      Taking into account the fact that the Russian language has changed since the time of Pushkin
      Well, really, maybe this poor fellow actually speaks the language of the 19th century in everyday life)) Just imagine how difficult it is for him to communicate with people, he lacks half the words of the modern vocabulary)
  4. +4
    8 January 2024 06: 49
    Judging by the description of the ups and downs of the creation of this object, this is a derivative of KhTZ - "Kharkov Tractor Plant", I wonder how many more experimental machines are there, and how many "at the Malyshev plant"? I remember that, for the money of the RF Ministry of Defense, they even made two samples of the tank under the code “Nota”, with different chassis, but with a 152-mm TP
  5. +6
    8 January 2024 07: 50
    A hydrostatic mechanical transmission was introduced into the chassis.

    What a twist)
    Skomorokhov has worthy students
    1. +4
      8 January 2024 09: 47
      Quote: Zufei
      A hydrostatic mechanical transmission was introduced into the chassis.

      What a twist)
      Skomorokhov has worthy students

      But what it sounds like!
  6. +5
    8 January 2024 09: 59
    The main goal of the Planer design and development work was to replace it in the army tinned "Motoleagues".

    I apologize wildly, but please correct me, otherwise in light of recent events it sounds completely nasty.
  7. BAI
    +5
    8 January 2024 11: 12
    Live and learn. All my life I thought that FED had been making cameras since the time of Makrenko.
    1. Alf
      +3
      8 January 2024 17: 59
      Quote: BAI
      All my life I thought that FED had been making cameras since the time of Makrenko.

      After the war, the Ministry of Agricultural Engineering produced Pike missiles... To make the enemy spies go crazy.
      1. SSR
        +2
        8 January 2024 21: 07
        Quote: Alf
        Pike...To make the enemy spies go crazy.

        UralVagon from the same part.
        What was most surprising was that there was the “High Mountain Navy” where, for example, they tested the famous “Shkval” torpedo.
      2. +2
        9 January 2024 10: 37
        Quote: Alf
        After the war, the Ministry of Agricultural Engineering produced Pike missiles... To make the enemy spies go crazy.

        Yeah... the Ministries of General and Medium Engineering were invented for them. smile
        The level below were such wonderful names as the “Design Bureau of Precision Engineering” (comrade Nudelman) - aircraft and anti-aircraft guns, RS, ATGM and air defense systems.
        Or the “Mechanization Design Bureau” - launch complexes for space, Strategic Missile Forces, Air Defense and the Navy. The train and the BZHRK launcher are his development.
        In general, everything is in the traditions of the USSR: if the name of the office is as general or abstract as possible (“Almaz”, “Rubin”, “Impulse”), it means, for sure, the defense industry.
        1. Alf
          +1
          9 January 2024 19: 25
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Level

          Wait a minute!
          Quote: Alexey RA
          "Design Bureau of Precision Engineering" (comrade Nudelman) - aviation and anti-aircraft guns, RS, ATGM and air defense systems.

          Aren't guns and missiles particularly precise products from a mechanical point of view? Are.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          "Mechanization Design Bureau" - launch complexes for space,

          But isn’t the launch complex a means of mechanization? After all, everything there is mechanized; there is no manual principle of “farting steam” in those structures.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The train and the BZHRK launcher are his development.

          A train is a mechanism, it is powered by artificial-mechanical traction, and not horse-drawn.
          So everything is named correctly. laughing
    2. 0
      10 January 2024 00: 19
      All my life I thought that FED had been making cameras since the time of Makrenko.
      Yes, this is where it all just began! And the majority of people (like you) associate only cameras with the abbreviation FED, because they were the only mass products “FED”, publicly available for sale and therefore known to everyone.... And the fact that from the 40s In the XNUMXs, the FED enterprise began producing fuel and other hydraulic systems for aviation; subsequently, equipment for spacecraft and other areas of mechanical engineering was known only to a narrow circle... to those who worked with these products. For example, I once accidentally learned that FED is not only cameras from a former fellow soldier who got a job as a military representative at this enterprise....
  8. -1
    8 January 2024 12: 42
    It’s not the car’s fault that the crap got it, I hope they won’t be able to put it back on track.
  9. -1
    8 January 2024 17: 50
    Besides these few photos, does anyone have any idea what this prototype is?? hi
    1. +2
      8 January 2024 23: 26
      Quote: Decimalegio
      Besides these few photos, does anyone have any idea what this prototype is?? hi

      Certainly! This is the seven-headed five-yuh!
      1. +6
        8 January 2024 23: 57
        With jokes like these, you have a future on television. laughing
  10. Alf
    0
    9 January 2024 19: 35
    Unearthed a rare tank destroyer

    They dug it up, but no one knows what to do with it next, there are no spare parts, the car is piecemeal, at least bury it back...
    P.S. And then, let's read the phrase
    After a missile attack, a self-propelled gun was found in one of the workshops of the enterprise in Kharkov.
    ...Those. While clearing away the rubble, we accidentally dug up a self-propelled gun. But it turns out that before the blow she was standing completely open, did no one see her at point-blank range? Or was it created using Stealth technology? How is this tank?
  11. +1
    9 January 2024 20: 53
    Quote: Alf
    If you have nothing to say about the fact, then you should go to Meehan, he is also a master of talking a lot and about nothing.

    I wrote you a comment, but at that moment my internet went down. Yes, you don't understand the meaning of the word casting. It looks like an old man's grumbling and nothing more. Because in the dictionary of the linguist Efremova you can read what exactly casting means. And this does not apply to things. Something like this. How old are you? It became really interesting.
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  13. 0
    10 January 2024 06: 42
    Well what can I say? The car is rare, in a single copy. And also antiques. Although the caliber of the gun is my respect. Surely they will bring it to a suitable condition. And even if they do, our shells, ATGMs, drones will not leave him a single chance. The author said correctly, he belongs in Patriot Park.
  14. 0
    10 January 2024 13: 33
    MTLB is a tractor and a bus, not an armored personnel carrier 80!
  15. 0
    11 January 2024 19: 44
    Wow, I'm from Kharkov. An interesting copy of it is needed for the Patriot Park. Banderlog will kill him.
  16. 0
    25 February 2024 22: 00
    It’s not clear why they still find something not on their territory? There should have been a rear city of Russia there long ago and specialized Russian specialists should find something there.

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