Navy Lookout summed up the outgoing year. Royal Navy in 2023

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Navy Lookout summed up the outgoing year. Royal Navy in 2023


Although this resource ([leech=http://]https://www.navylookout.com/a-year-in-review-the-royal-navy-in-2023/[/leech]) is not official, the more interesting is his opinion, since His Majesty’s government does not “pressure” him.



Let’s omit the beginning of the article, where “crocodile tears” are shed over unfortunate Ukraine and how much stronger the Ukrainian fleet has become after the transfer of two old minesweepers to it. Let's go straight to the part where it talks about the royal navy.

The UK Carrier Strike Group spent the autumn deploying to the Norwegian and North Seas and visited Gothenburg, Sweden to participate in defense activities associated with NATO and JEF. This modest six-week tour included a significant amount of flying training, which gave the European allies confidence in the RN's ability to help defend their eastern borders. The Prime Minister spent the night on board HMS Diamond ahead of the JEF summit in Finland, becoming the first Prime Minister to stay on a warship for generations. HMS Queen Elizabeth has completed her patrol by sending additional ammunition supplies to Glen Mullan as she remains at very high readiness and well prepared should she be called upon to undertake urgent tasks in the new year.

After several years of relative peace, the Middle East has once again become a center of fighting. In May, HMS Lancaster was transferred from its base in the Persian Gulf to Port Sudan and, along with Royal Marines based in Khartoum, helped British and partner nation citizens escape when civil war broke out. When Hamas attacked Israel on 7 October, the new Coastal Response Group (South), consisting of RFA Argus and RFA Lyme Bay, was just preparing to leave the UK for a long-term base in Oman. Instead, they were rushed to the eastern Mediterranean for a possible civilian evacuation or humanitarian aid operation. At the time of writing this rather sketchy plan appears to have been abandoned. At least the LRG(S) concept provided the right vessels, in the right place, at the right time, and HMS Duncan was also well positioned to respond should the need arise.

While ships in the Levant remain on high alert, the Red Sea has become the center of attention as Iran-backed Houthi rebels have begun launching indiscriminate attacks on commercial shipping. The US Navy has done the hard work so far, destroying several drones and missiles, many ships were hit, but, remarkably, there were no casualties among the merchant sailors. On December 16, HMS Diamond made headlines when it shot down a drone with a Sea Viper missile. This was the first combat use of the RN's Sea Viper and the first time an RN warship had destroyed an aerial target in anger since HMS Gloucester shot down a Silkworm anti-ship missile during the first Gulf War in 1991. With HMS Diamond on hand and HMS Lancaster, Britain rushed to join the US-led Operation Prosperity Guardian (OPG) to protect merchant shipping. Some shipping lines have resumed Red Sea transit, but OPG is struggling because few navies are willing to hand over their warships to U.S. command. European politicians, who should know better, are concerned that their public will confuse support for freedom of navigation in the Red Sea with support for Israel. Ensuring the safe passage of ships through maritime chokepoints is in everyone's interest, since free movement of ships is key to the global economy and ultimately has greater direct consequences than what may occur in Israel.

A peripheral conflict of concern is brewing in the Commonwealth state of Guyana in South America. In a classic case of distracting the population from the economic chaos at home, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has claimed Guyana's oil and mineral-rich Essequibo region as his own. HMS Trent was sent to join naval exercises with Guyana as a low-key show of moral support, but in a fit of pantomimic outrage, the Venezuelans claim it "act of hostile provocation" In the past, when the RN had a frigate or destroyer assigned to the Caribbean (Atlantic Patrol North), a more powerful warship was available. HMS Dauntless was in the Caribbean and visited neighboring Colombia earlier this year, but only as a one-off deployment and a lightly armed OPV is usually deployed to the region. HMS Trent cannot be risked against even a weak Venezuelan fleet, so her presence is more symbolic than military. OPVs provide a very useful diplomatic platform by showing the flag and building relationships at low cost, but they lack the deterrence that a more heavily armed warship provides when the stakes may be higher. Let's hope that the Essequibo dispute will be resolved through diplomatic means and that international pressure will force Maduro to calmly admit the absurdity of his statement.

Three specific issues are having an increasingly noticeable impact on RN performance and effectiveness.

1. The most serious problem that RN now faces is the personnel crisis, which has worsened this year. While retaining enough qualified and experienced people has long been a challenge, it is clear that the easier aspect of the staffing equation is recruitment, but RNs are currently unable to secure enough candidates for basic training. If high outflows are combined with low inflows, the RN will soon begin to grind to a halt as operations are cut back, deployments have to be overextended, or ships cannot sail at all. Without a very concerted and well-resourced effort to resolve this situation, there will be serious problems in 2024 and beyond, foreshadowed by what has happened to the Royal Auxiliary, which has already been forced to lay up good ships due to a shortage of sailors.

2. This year we have reported numerous examples of poor availability of ships and submarines, caused by the age of the ships themselves and the slow pace of maintenance, and various infrastructure problems. Following the decommissioning of HMS Montrose in April, the official number of frigates was reduced to 11. It is actually 10, as HMS Westminster is now in such poor condition that it is not worth converting, although the RN has not yet officially recognized this as a case. HMS Northumberland was last refitted in 2018 and has been in heavy duty operation for the past few years. She is only slightly younger than Westminster, and one must also think about her financial condition. HMS Somerset emerged from repair with a 4-year service life extension, but suffered a series of setbacks and breakdowns that limited her return to service and delayed acceptance of the naval strike missile. The youngest of the frigates, HMS St Albans, is only the second in her class to benefit from both a LIFEX refurbishment and a PGMU (engine upgrade). This project has taken more than 3,5 years and it has not yet gone to sea, although sea trials are due to begin in early 2024. The refurbishment of HMS Iron Duke was completed in May at a cost of £100 million and took 4 years to complete but has spent most of 2023 near Portsmouth. The RN is currently in a deep "frigate shortage" where aging Type 23 ships must continue to operate while awaiting replacement by new ships, which is perhaps the RN's biggest challenge in the medium term. The situation is aggravated by the fact that promising Type 26 frigates are moving further and further “to the right.” Finishing work at Cardiff has slowed down significantly due to a strike by some of the workers. Now even 2026 is in doubt. Type 31 frigates are also in question, since they are much more expensive than the initially agreed upon amounts. How and when the dispute between the Admiralty and Babcock will end is still unknown. As had long been planned, HMS Albion went into reserve over the summer, but HMS Bulwark, the ship that should be ready to take her place, is still in dry dock and far from returning to service. HMS Trent, which is less than 5 years old, was unavailable for deployment for a year from May 2022 until May 2023 due to various mechanical problems.

The Submarine Service was also badly damaged. This year HMS Vanguard finally went to sea after a 7 year refurbishment and in the meantime the duration of the deterrent patrols increased with one boat being submerged for over 6 months. HMS Vanguard, after undergoing repairs, was supposed to test launch a Trident missile, which is standard procedure for British and American SSBNs, but this did not happen. After loading missiles into the Kings Bay naval base, the British boat left. After a month's absence, the Vengard was located in Port Canaveral, Florida. HMS Anson was officially commissioned in August 2022 and left the shipyard in February 2023, but has spent much of that year on sea trials and has not yet been commissioned. There were some days during the summer when there were no submarines at sea, a situation that seemed to be repeated during the Christmas period.

The inability to bring new technologies to the forefront quickly enough is now a serious problem. RN is certainly trying to innovate and has made some progress with the PODS concept, the MANTA/CETUS XLUUV, XV Patrick Blackett projects and autonomous mine hunting and MDG capabilities. Unfortunately, the pace of vehicle fleet renewal is not fast enough. Events in Ukraine and now in the Red Sea have once again demonstrated that inexpensive, relatively simple unmanned systems can be effective, or at least can only be countered by sophisticated and expensive weaponswhich is missing. While the Martlet missile/Wildcat helicopter combination has finally entered service and is an important step in the right direction, RN ships lack sufficient kill capabilities to counter swarms of US aircraft or UAVs. For example, even the implementation of a very simple unmanned ISR capability in the form of the Peregrine RWUAS has proven to be a protracted process. The basic Schiebel S-100 video camera platform has been around for over a decade, but it took RN years to get this relatively cheap but effective low-hanging fruit into the hands of camera operators. In 2023, the Naval Service welcomed two new ships: RFA Proteus (MROS) and RFA Stirling Castle (MHC mothership). It was great "good" news", as both ships were acquired relatively quickly and were eventually sent to sea after refitting. Unfortunately, none of the ships were actually ready for their intended use this year, despite official statements, which is another example of the inability to actually carry out the assigned tasks. Beyond the obvious budgetary issues, the root causes are institutional inertia in both the Navy and the DoD. There is over-regulation due to excessive risk aversion and a reluctance to bypass boundaries based on peacetime civic thinking. The lack of engineering and technical personnel in both industry and RN does not help. At the other end of the capability spectrum, efforts to increase fleet firepower have also been frustratingly slow. After 10 years of hesitation over a replacement for the Harpoon, the NSM is finally due to enter service next year. The Sea Ceptor is still a few years away from being available on Type 45 destroyers, and while it is good news that the Type 31 will be equipped with elements of the Mk41 VLS along with the Type 26 frigates, the industry is highly skeptical that the FCASW missile can be ready for use. to fill these cells by 2028.

One of the main positives for RN is that the shipbuilding program is generally on track and will begin delivering new frigates in the late 2020s. Work on the first Type 31 frigate, HMS Venturer, is progressing well and is only slightly behind the original schedule; Work on the second ship is also continuing. Steelwork is the simpler aspect of the project, but rigging and systems integration will be Babcock's biggest challenge. Four Type 26 frigates are currently in various stages of construction, with steel being sawed off for No. 4 HMS Birmingham this year. A new construction facility at BAE Systems' Havana shipyard is nearing completion next year and will help accelerate the next phase of the program. Almost out of public view, one of the most complex engineering projects undertaken in the UK - the construction of four Dreadnought class submarines - is now making steady progress. Although the previous Vanguard class took approximately twice as long to build, the project appears to be on schedule.

The National Audit Office's report on the MoD's equipment plan, published in December, provides some cold reality about future aspirations. RN capabilities not yet funded in the 2022-2032 EP include Type 32 frigates, multi-mission support ships, Type 83/FADS destroyers, Block 1 and Block 2 mine-hunting equipment support, and aspects of Block 2 and 3 Future Commando equipment All these financial obstacles must be overcome in the next few years, otherwise the fleet will continue to be depleted. In the near-medium term, NATO notes that growing global demand for defense equipment, supply chain issues, material shortages and skills shortages are limiting the industry's production capacity, making it difficult to deliver projects within existing schedules and budgets.

The current government appears to be heading towards a general election next year, although most predict it will be outright defeated. It is therefore particularly important to pay attention to the Labor Party's comments on defense issues over the next few months and their manifesto promises. Beating the drum about “building warships only in Britain” and “using British steel” may have a positive effect on the Unions, but these are extreme measures. In fact, a very significant increase in defense spending is urgently needed, but this is unlikely under the new government. In terms of "mood music", the main strategic difference between the parties appears to be that Labor is less enthusiastic about the UK's "Indo-Pacific bias" and may try to reduce this commitment, although Japan's participation in GCAP and AUKUS will prevent you from going back to this. There is no shortage of failures to lay at the Tories' feet, but unless Labor is committed to committing new resources following a likely defense policy review in 2025, we can expect further controlled decline in an increasingly dangerous world.

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Well, from the “Humor Column” section. Retired commander Tom Sharp, famous for the fact that while he was in command of the frigate Northumberland, the extended BUGAS antenna was badly damaged by contact with a Russian submarine, proposed to the Minister of Defense to send the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth to the Red Sea. True, he did not explain what he would do there with an air group of 8 planes and 8 helicopters.
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  1. +3
    7 January 2024 06: 09
    Great Britain has been tormented for a very long time by the phantom pains of the holder of the title of mistress of the seas. But the fact is that the decline of the Royal Navy began exactly at the moment when Great Britain became a small Britain and lost its colonies around the world. India and Australia, New Zealand and Singapore broke away, and the endless huge flow of goodies and resources that they pumped out of the colonies dried up. And it turned out that without them they are just an island, and are not able to build large ships or maintain them. But they stubbornly continue to puff up and pretend to be something... Their strength remains only in their intelligence and ability to muddy the waters and pit countries all over the world. It was a pitiful imitation of the greatness that has sunk into oblivion forever. Just a few more years and they will be equal in development to Madagascar
    1. 0
      7 January 2024 09: 18
      In addition to economic and demographic problems, which are beyond the scope of the article. What we have is that the British have forgotten how to build ships. Aircraft carriers - out of about 60 options considered, they chose one of the worst. (I have an article about this). Type 45 destroyers are also not a masterpiece. What will the Type 26 frigates be like? Let's see, now we can only say that they are very late. With submarines, the sun is also very bad. “Vengard” took 7 years to be repaired, instead of the required 2. But even now, she has been “hanging out” off the east coast of the United States for two months, for unknown reasons. Although I should have carried out a test launch of the Trident a long time ago, download
      b/c and go on patrol. "Astute" is also not a masterpiece and is also very late. Accordingly, the Dreadnought is very late behind it. Well, the rest, little things.
      1. +6
        7 January 2024 15: 43
        Quote: TermNachTER
        (I have an article about this)

        Dear Ter MI na Khter! I understand everything: holidays, the “bo-bo” head, but putting up for discussion among forum members a machine translation of English media that has never been planed is the height of disrespect for the public!
        1. It is certainly a sensation that Richa Sunak spent the night on His Majesty’s ship! (Why? a- safety of stay; b- nothing better and more comfortable was found; c- I wanted naval “exotics” - to feel all the hardships and hardships in my own skin, so to speak; d- I got so drunk with the KEP in the cabin that could not crawl away so as not to ruin his reputation; d- for the sake of PR and raising prestige among the warriors... e- and the most incredible thing: he worked all night, discussed the problems of the Fleet and determined ways to solve them! - Everyone is free to choose according to his own taste, since you didn't do it!)
        2. = poor ACCESSIBILITY to ships and submarines (???) Damn! What kind of animal is this? As I understand it: the ships are fenced with barbed wire, there are no approaches or entrances to them, which is why this very “poor accessibility” to the desired objects of visit has arisen... But it turns out that we are just talking about the useless TECHNICAL READINESS of the crew.
        3. the process of modernizing and improving the performance characteristics of ships suddenly turned into “receiving BENEFIT(!)” from repairing systems and modernizing the power plant of ships.
        4. I tried for a long time to find a structure in the Korlevsky Navy called SUBMARINE SERVICE (!). Alas, there was none. There is a "British surface fleet, UK submarine fleet, Royal Auxiliary Fleet and Royal Air Force." - Submarine Services - NO!
        5. The submarine VENGARD was under water for SIX months (!), I wonder: what was she doing there (?) if she has a cycle of 72 days. However, further in the text it follows that a MONTH after the missiles were loaded, she was seen in the village of CANAVERAL, pc. Florida (USA). So much for 6 minutes underwater! HOWEVER...
        6. Quite strange is the statement that the ship is “not in operation” during sea trials... Yes, the ship has not been handed over to the Navy, but its materiel is still OPERATED during the chemical attack.
        7. The phrase that the British are in no way “able to introduce advanced technologies TO THE FRONT RANGE” remains a mystery. Probably the Ukrainians are denying them this. And I also cannot understand how the phrase “unfortunately, the pace of implementation of the VEHICLE FLEET is far from fast enough” relates to the Navy.
        8. And I was completely shocked: - “RN ships lack sufficient capabilities for effective destruction, to counter groups of American aircraft or UAVs.»
        (So ​​that’s who the true enemy of the crown is! Not the Russians, but the Yankees!!! – At them!!!)
        9. There is even something new. Thus, the vulgar “bureaucratic delays of the Navy and Defense Ministry”, under dashing machine translation, turn into “institutional inertia”; a frigate of type 32 appeared; for some reason, “shortcomings and failures” in England are placed on the LEGS, and not on the head, as throughout the world.
        And the author, “without even a bit of confusion” (without even trying to “comb” the machine translation), poured all this on the heads of the gullible forum users, and not at all on the feet, as the “artificial intelligence” translated.
        In short - Happy New Year and Merry Christmas, dear ones! hi
        1. 0
          7 January 2024 17: 06
          The head is fine, I haven’t abused it for a long time. And not really before. January 1st is a normal working day at the factory.. Regarding the “unplaned”, I already explained. But let me explain one last time. If you “straighten” it so that it is literary, the meaning “goes away”. If I want to preserve the meaning, the text becomes “clumsy”. Once he took and rewrote an article in his own words - he was accused of stealing from the author. Therefore, now there are only minimal edits, I remove only obvious “blunders”, everything else is the same as in the original. If one of the readers considers this to be disrespectful to him, you can simply not read. Go to the site and read the original. However, if you look at the number
          views and comments, most comrades read the “unplaned” version.
          1. 0
            7 January 2024 17: 11
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Most comrades also read the “unplaned” version.

            I didn't mean to offend you. I just can’t read nonsense about the fleet. And I read about other types of forces without wincing - about infantry, etc. I feel violet. About the fleet - sorry! That's how he was brought up.
            Happy New Year! And thank you for somehow diversifying our “meager diet.” hi
            1. 0
              7 January 2024 17: 27
              What is wrong in the article, especially not mine, from the point of view of meaning, and not from the point of view of syntax and spelling?
              1. -1
                7 January 2024 19: 59
                Quote: TermNachTER
                What is wrong in the article, especially not mine, from the point of view of meaning,

                I do not review or edit (let alone within the meaning) articles by foreign authors on the fleet, the development and combat potential of which I stopped following 14 years ago.
                Therefore, as is customary here, the question is not about salary... And what I didn’t like about the “machine translation” (by the way, not combed by you) I outlined in detail in my post.
                Best regards,
                1. -2
                  7 January 2024 20: 26
                  If you stopped following 14 years ago, then what is the discussion about? I admit, it’s not always possible to “comb it” from the point of view of literary Russian, but the meaning is clear to those who are interested in this issue.
                  1. +1
                    7 January 2024 20: 32
                    Quote: TermNachTER
                    then what is the discussion about?

                    Completeness, dear! How can you have a discussion with a person who is hiding behind someone else’s article and has not even expressed his opinion about it!? What are you talking about, my dear?
                    And 14 years ago I stopped reading intelligence reports on the theater of operations, that’s why I wrote that “not for the salary.” You still work at a factory associated with the fleet. You know better, I guess. bully
                    1. -2
                      7 January 2024 20: 41
                      I have expressed my opinion more than once, in other articles. I work at a factory associated with aviation, more precisely with aircraft engine manufacturing. The fleet has been my hobby since I graduated from seafaring in 1992.
                      1. 0
                        7 January 2024 21: 02
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        The fleet has been my hobby since I graduated from seafaring in 1992.

                        Nikolay, it turns out that you are a young person, probably the same age as my eldest daughter, since you graduated from the naval class in 1992! My daughter is a lawyer, I don’t argue with her. laughing
                        For me it’s the other way around: aviation is my hobby, and the navy is my profession.
                      2. 0
                        8 January 2024 13: 24
                        Well, how can I tell you? It depends which way you look at it. For some, 54 years old is still young, for others it is quite old. As they say, the point of sitting determines the point of view)))
                      3. +1
                        8 January 2024 13: 26
                        ZY worked for many years in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, although without a higher legal education, but with extensive experience in law enforcement activities)))
                      4. -1
                        8 January 2024 15: 44
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        worked for many years in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, although without higher legal education, but with extensive experience in law enforcement activities

                        Gleb Zheglov and Volodya Sharapov
                        They earned orders in battles,
                        After a peaceful day of work
                        Be calm, dear country. (With)
                        My -- hi
                      5. +1
                        8 January 2024 19: 12
                        Yeah, that’s exactly where I worked in the Organized Crime Control Department)))
      2. 0
        8 January 2024 17: 05
        Quote: TermNachTER
        In addition to economic and demographic problems, which are beyond the scope of the article.

        welcome
        So you should write an article on the calculation of the forces and means of the Argentine Navy/Armed Forces/Air Force for the return of the Malvinas Islands))))))
        1. +1
          8 January 2024 19: 09
          You can write something, but it’s a pity, there’s nothing to write about))) The Argentine Armed Forces are in an extremely indecent state. It was a good idea to purchase Chinese equipment using a Chinese loan. But the Washington Reich Chancellery “bent in” the Argentos. The Falklands War is a very interesting event; if the Argentos had approached this issue more seriously, they might have succeeded.
    2. 0
      7 January 2024 12: 54
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      But the fact is that the decline of the Royal Navy began exactly at the moment when Great Britain became a small Britain and lost its colonies around the world.
      Earlier. At the beginning of World War II, they exchanged some of their colonies for destroyers. This means that problems arose between the First and Second World Wars.
      1. -1
        7 January 2024 13: 32
        Many believe that the exchange of “destroyers for colonies” had not so much military as political overtones. I don’t think that the 50 “four-tube” ships of 1919-21 significantly strengthened the Royal Navy, although there was a considerable need for anti-aircraft defense ships. Rather, Churchill tried to drag Roosevelt into the war in this way, but Hitler did not succumb to the provocation.
        1. 0
          7 January 2024 13: 54
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Churchill tried to drag Roosevelt into the war in this way, but Hitler did not succumb to the provocation.


          How is that? Who pulled who in?
          1. 0
            7 January 2024 17: 07
            The United States has declared neutrality; handing over ships to a warring party is a bit of a violation.
            1. 0
              7 January 2024 18: 15
              A fine line. Especially considering that for Americans, money and power are primary, and not some kind of agreements and rules that can always be rewritten to suit themselves.
              1. 0
                7 January 2024 20: 28
                The same can be said about Hitler. He signed a bunch of agreements that he did not intend to fulfill, starting with the Anglo-German 1935, regarding the fleet.
        2. +1
          8 January 2024 06: 03
          Quote: TermNachTER
          I don’t think that the 50 “four-tube” ships of 1919-21 significantly strengthened the Royal Navy, although there was a considerable need for anti-aircraft defense ships.

          50 relatively high-speed seaworthy EM hulls for conversion into ASW ships? Yes, this is simply a royal gift for the British PLO of those times, against the backdrop of the few first “flowers” ​​with their 16,5 knots and PLO trawlers - both mobilized and specially built.
          With the outbreak of hostilities, the Admiralty launched a program of mass construction of trawlers according to the slightly modified "Basset" project: in 1939-1945. 192 units of the "Tree", "Dance", "Shakespearian" and "Isles" types entered service. In addition to the heirs of "Basset", in 1941-1944. The fleet was replenished with several more types of trawlers. Most of them were reworkings of designs for civilian vessels (Hills, Round Table, Fish and Military types) and World War I admiralty trawlers (Castle type). A small number of trawlers were ordered abroad (Professor type). In addition to specialized ships, since the beginning of the war the Admiralty requisitioned from private owners about 1300 trawlers, 200 whaling ships and about 550 drifters.
          © A.V. Dashyan. “Ships of the Second World War. British Navy." Part 2.
          1. 0
            8 January 2024 13: 17
            Repair and re-equipment require time, repair capacity and labor. Churchill had none of this. Yes, the condition of the ships was such that the Americans immediately said that they were not for war - they were spare parts.
            1. +1
              8 January 2024 16: 25
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Repair and re-equipment require time, repair capacity and labor. Churchill had none of this.

              On the contrary, Britain just had the power, hands and equipment to modernization ships. These snickering parasites On the islands they even installed GAS on mobilized trawlers. smile
              There was only one thing missing - the ships themselves, especially fast ones. In the same 1940, things reached the point that even the “S” type EMs (predecessors of the “standard V” and “W” types) EMs, which had miraculously escaped decommissioning and were laid down a year earlier than the smooth-deckers, were included in the modernization of anti-aircraft ships.
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Yes, the condition of the ships was such that the Americans immediately said that they were not for war - they were spare parts.

              At the same time, the Yankees themselves continued to actively use and modernize more than a hundred of the same smooth-deckers in various versions. smile And they fought with them until the end of the war.
              As a result of Japanese attacks. aircraft and kamikazes near Okinawa received damage of varying degrees of severity: "Gilmer" (25.3.1945), "Dorsey" (26.3.1945, severe), "Southard" (27.3.1945 and 27.5.1945), "Rathburne" (27.4.1945. 4.5.1945, hard), "Hopkins" (20.5.1945), "Tattnall" (25.5.1945), "Roper" (25.5.1945, hard), "Barry" (XNUMX, hard).

              In 1945, the Yankees even had to transfer some of the smooth-deckers, previously converted into high-speed landing transports, back to the EM.
              1. 0
                8 January 2024 19: 11
                I read the opposite, that there were not enough shipyards or workers for them.
      2. 0
        7 January 2024 14: 49
        Bootleggers carried alcohol from Canada to China.
        The contradiction between the United States and the United States has appeared since Prohibition. The Americans defeated them
        1. 0
          7 January 2024 17: 56
          Bootleggers carried alcohol not only from Canada, but also from Mexico and Cuba, fortunately there was a lot of sugar cane. And moonshine has blossomed wildly. But I don't see the connection with the comment.
  2. +2
    7 January 2024 07: 24
    One of the most complex engineering projects undertaken in the UK is now making steady progress - the construction of four Dreadnought class submarines.

    There are only four boats, which means there will be no more than one at sea...
    We have to observe a landslide reduction in the number of combat fleets in all countries of the world (except the USA and China). Warships are becoming more and more complex and expensive, which means few people will be able to build/maintain them in the future. The time for medium-displacement surface/underwater UAVs is approaching...
    1. +1
      7 January 2024 17: 58
      This is also observed in the USA. I wrote more than once. Due to the backlog of the Columbia program, the five extreme "Ohios" are extending their service life. Same with multi-purpose boats. It’s difficult to judge China, everything is classified.
  3. +1
    7 January 2024 11: 15
    In fact, the degradation of Royal Nevi is only a direct consequence of the degradation of their heavy industry in general, and the shipbuilding industry in particular. And this, in turn, is a consequence of the decline in education + the loss of once rich colonies/satellites.
    But this also overlaps with the global naval crisis - a significant drop in the number of warships in all fleets.
    As for me, the bet on multifunctional vessels turned out to be not the most successful. The multifunctionality of the vessel was based on the complex and expensive multifunctional electronics of the vessel. And also the presence of sufficient volumes to accommodate the entire range of weapons for different tasks. As a result, we get a good, multifunctional vessel, but because of its multifunctionality, it is too COMPLEX and EXPENSIVE. This means that it is difficult to create many such ships, even for many rich countries. As a result, few such ships are built. But then not only is the value of each individual ship too high, but the cost of losing one ship will also be higher.
    If a country has 50 destroyers. The loss of two during hostilities is a loss of 4% of the composition and combat effectiveness of the fleet. And if a country has only 10 destroyers, then the loss of two is already a loss of 20% of the fleet’s combat capability.
    Therefore, such universal vessels do not risk being sent to regions with a chance of sinking. But then the role for which they were created is not fulfilled. What is the point of expensive MILITARY ships if these ships simply avoid combat during combat operations and simply burn the fuel and resources of the ships themselves.
    1. +1
      7 January 2024 11: 32
      Well, it has been said more than once that versatility (multifunctionality) is good up to a certain limit, beyond which the opposite effect occurs. Such a ship is bad in every way. But the Britons “not thank God” here either. Type 45 destroyers are designed for air defense. Their strike capabilities are a 114 mm gun, with a firing range of 20 km. Now they are just concerned about arming them with anti-aircraft missile systems, but this is not a quick process.
      Type 23 frigates are “sharpened” for anti-aircraft defense. Their arming with “harpoons” is not out of a good life, but out of hopelessness. In addition, type 23 was built based on a service life of 18 years, now some of them have exceeded 30. And judging by how types 26 and 31 are built, they will have to serve 35, and maybe more, if they don’t sink “on go")))
    2. +1
      7 January 2024 12: 13
      Quote: Mustachioed Kok
      As for me, the bet on multifunctional vessels turned out to be not the most successful.

      What's more successful? Which exit? Do you think that building three or four specialized frigates is cheaper and easier than building one multifunctional destroyer? What about the price of service? Hardly...
      1. 0
        7 January 2024 12: 24
        It is necessary to find a “golden mean” between narrow specialization, universalization and cost. The British have been doing very poorly for the last 30 years. Or rather, no way.
    3. +1
      7 January 2024 12: 51
      Quote: Mustachioed Kok
      This means that it is difficult to create many such ships, even for many rich countries.
      Or vice versa: due to the fact that few ships are built, they must be made multifunctional. By the way, what are you willing to sacrifice from the ship’s capabilities? Air defense? PLO? RCC? Autonomy? By the way, the Americans donated anti-ship missiles: after decommissioning anti-ship tomahawks, they sailed for decades without anti-ship missiles. But this did not reduce the price of Arly Burkov.
      1. +1
        7 January 2024 13: 43
        My, purely personal opinion, which I do not impose on anyone, is that the ship should be created for a specific work (function) of air defense, attack or anti-aircraft defense. You can combine two out of three functions. Like the American "Bjork" - shock and air defense. The anti-aircraft defense equipment on it is minimal, only for self-defense. Modern British ships are very "narrow". Type 45 - air defense only, no strike capabilities at all, anti-aircraft defense - for self-defense. Type 23 - anti-aircraft defense, there were no strike capabilities until the Harpoon was installed, air defense is only self-defense. Two “packages” of “harpoons” are too much for such a small ship. I think that now they have problems with stability, and the strength of the hull, unless during repairs they did local strengthening of the hull structures.
        Now they are trying to strengthen the air defense by improving the air defense system, but this is a decision, again, out of despair.
  4. 0
    7 January 2024 11: 22
    And one more piece of news from the humor category. The Admiralty announced a vacancy - rear admiral of the submarine, with an annual salary of 150 thousand ft. Art. I must admit - not a bad salary, by England standards. Previously, rear admiral stripes were the ultimate dream. You had to work for 20-25 years both at sea and on the shore until you reached the rank of service; now there are no people willing to do it. How - to put it mildly, so that the editor does not “cut out”, not very smart people at White Hall, should think about it.
    1. +1
      7 January 2024 12: 08
      Quote: TermNachTER
      The Admiralty announced a vacancy - rear admiral of the submarine, with an annual salary of 150 thousand ft. Art. I must admit - not a bad salary, by England standards

      This is the average salary of a professional doctor in Britain... I would say that they could offer more for a rear admiral (how many are there for the entire fleet? Ten to four, hardly more...).
      1. 0
        7 January 2024 12: 21
        A highly qualified doctor, a narrow specialist, is almost a piece of goods. The average salary in England is 16 - 18 ft. Art. per hour, i.e. somewhere around 30 - 35 thousand per year.
  5. -1
    7 January 2024 13: 58
    In addition to economic and demographic problems, which are beyond the scope of the article. We have that the British have forgotten how to build ships


    To build ships, you need not only science, economics, industry and demography, but also the demand for the industry. But why Great Britain needs a fleet in the current conditions, when there are no longer any colonies, the British themselves do not understand. Those. In theory, it would be good, but when you pay out of your own pocket, practicality comes into play.
    1. +1
      7 January 2024 17: 38
      Perhaps you are right. But before, the British were very good at building ships (and not only) for sale. Even for those countries that had their own shipbuilding, even if it wasn’t that great, for example, “Rurik 2”. And the power plants for the battleships "Sevastopol" were originally British, but later they began production.
      1. 0
        7 January 2024 18: 12
        This was at a time when Great Britain was either the mistress of the seas, or the memory of it was alive. And now there are only attempts on the basis of special operations. So the real mistress of the seas is now the states. They have both ambitions and opportunities to realize their ambitions (economics, science, politics). That’s why destroyers are the best, as are aircraft carriers. Comprehensively the best. Of course, this does not cancel successful decisions in other fleets. But, look, Aegis, PU Mark 41, Kevlar protection - American and mass solutions. Alas.
        1. 0
          7 January 2024 20: 33
          Well, let's say, for export, back in the 50s and 60s, good ships were built. "Failure" has been going on since the 70s. Type 42 is already purely air defense, but there were many of them - 12, and they were supplemented by other ships. Then, when there were only 45 Type 6, many said that 6 would not replace 12 and suggested leaving in service the last Type 42, Group 2, which had finally had their noses attached and there were prospects for modernization. But they were written off - at an accelerated pace.
          1. 0
            7 January 2024 21: 03
            Exactly what I'm talking about. Great Britain ceased to be an empire and the fleet went into the shadows.
            1. 0
              8 January 2024 13: 22
              So everything went: the army, aviation, industry, and shipbuilding as well. For the auxiliary fleet, vessels are ordered from South. Korea - it's cheaper)))
    2. +1
      7 January 2024 18: 22
      By the way, yes - the British fleet used to be so large based on the need to maintain gigantic sea communications between the colonies.
  6. 0
    7 January 2024 14: 41
    In the near-medium term, NATO notes that growing global demand for defense equipment, supply chain issues, material shortages and skills shortages are limiting the industry's production capacity, making it difficult to deliver projects within existing schedules and budgets.
    Translation without understanding and knowledge? Flood write to me, wizard.
    Emptiness in a vacuum. The monetization of patriotism is gaining momentum. Nationalization is important not only for the aluminum industry, but also for propaganda. Lecturers 40 years ago at least spoke Russian
    1. -1
      7 January 2024 17: 46
      What is not clear here? Problem 1. - lack (shortage) of qualified workers. 2. Energy resources and raw materials have become more expensive, followed by an increase in the price of finished products + qualified workers also need to be paid more, because they will finish their contract and go to another employer who will pay more. Now it’s fashionable for them to have short-term contracts - six months or a year, after which either pay more or goodbye))) 3. no one “invested” in the development of production, new equipment (machines) were not purchased. And there are such machines - for which you have to stand in line for 2 - 3 years, because they are produced by only a few companies on the planet, and mainly in China. But you can’t buy in China - it’s not kosher))) and so on, you can go on for a long time. I think the meaning is clear.
      1. 0
        7 January 2024 20: 18
        Agree. Here it is stated in Russian. In the article - “the screw is screwed with a special tool around the surface plane into the body of the ship platform under study”
        1. -2
          7 January 2024 20: 22
          I left especially abstruse phrases in the original - let everyone understand to the best of their understanding.
          1. 0
            7 January 2024 22: 01
            Yes, I want it to be as clear as possible, simple, without machine translation.
            No tension. Reading should not be combined, but should be used as a relaxation.
            1. 0
              7 January 2024 22: 09
              Nowadays there are many guides to make money. Not enough “ideology”, bookmarks in the subconscious. Official information - does not fit the soul
            2. 0
              7 January 2024 22: 09
              Nowadays there are many guides to make money. Not enough “ideology”, bookmarks in the subconscious. Official information - does not fit the soul
              1. 0
                8 January 2024 13: 35
                + talent, intuition of a translator. And understand the meaning. And most importantly - what level of technology is designed for. Shpakovsky's maximum is simply exasperating.
                And others too. The article is too small for such a long correspondence
            3. +1
              8 January 2024 13: 20
              Here they mainly post things for the sake of thinking, and not historical novels - purely “for the soul.” Although I’ll be honest, when I tried to translate it “manually” without Google translation, using a dictionary, it also turned out to be a meaningless set of words. This requires both semantic and textual translation; unfortunately, I don’t speak English well, much less technically.
  7. +4
    7 January 2024 15: 15
    Everything has been decided, I’m submitting an application for the position of repair admiral (I’ll use the English job search service, by the way, a vacancy has appeared from the Admiralty). My advantages at sea don’t make me seasick: I love whiskey, I have a commanding voice, my subordinates will fight and piss when I bother them using Russian obscenities, each base will have a brothel made up only of Ukrainian “khanok”. I think there is a chance. bully drinks
    1. +1
      8 January 2024 06: 08
      Quote: tralflot1832
      My advantages do not get seasick: I love whiskey, I have a commanding voice, my subordinates will fight and piss when I curse them with Russian obscenities, each base will have a brothel made up only of Ukrainian “kohanki”. I think there is a chance.

      Resolution: Refuse. Of the three traditions of the Royal Navy, the candidate observes only one. Outrageously masculine and cisgender. smile
      1. 0
        8 January 2024 06: 22
        Alexey RA. soldier It’s a pity. There is something to work on. I’ll be waiting for a vacancy as an aircraft carrier commander. For even ones on the Lizka, for odd ones on the Prince.
  8. +2
    7 January 2024 16: 02
    Unfortunately, the pace of vehicle fleet renewal is not fast enough

    M-d ...
    1. -2
      7 January 2024 17: 48
      I'm sorry, I didn't notice. Has this changed the meaning of the article?
      1. +1
        7 January 2024 21: 52
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Has this changed the meaning of the article?

        Don't know. I'm too lazy to look for the original in order to make a correct translation and understand the meaning that the author put into it
  9. +1
    7 January 2024 17: 28
    Well, from the “Humor Column” section. Retired commander Tom Sharp, famous for the fact that while he was in command of the frigate Northumberland, the extended BUGAS antenna was badly damaged by contact with a Russian submarine, proposed to the Minister of Defense to send the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth to the Red Sea. True, he did not explain what he would do there with an air group of 8 planes and 8 helicopters.
    Dry English humor. Sorey WHAT will they do with the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth in the Red Sea. Execute or pardon? Only the Arab soul knows... crying
    1. +1
      7 January 2024 17: 52
      The site from which this article was “ripped off” has already burst out with an analytical article on what forces can be used in this operation))) where two mattress sheds could not cope with normal air groups. I wanted to laugh at them in the comments, because there is such a function. But I changed my mind, suddenly they would be offended and stop letting me in. Why then yell?)))
      1. +1
        7 January 2024 17: 54
        And that’s true, then there will be a surprise like Vinokur’s)))
      2. 0
        7 January 2024 18: 07
        The site from which this article was “ripped off” has already burst out with an analytical article,
        There will be one more coral reef in the Red Sea crying
        1. +1
          7 January 2024 20: 36
          Of course I would like to. But hardly. Lizka's trip to the Red Sea puts an end to all BS schedules - repairs. Then the great campaign “in the footsteps of connection Z” will definitely not work out. He is still a big question.
          1. -1
            8 January 2024 12: 14
            But what about the favorite tradition of displaying Her Majesty’s flag everywhere. I hope the British will not miss PR in the Red Sea purely to demonstrate the flag that “they were already there too.”
  10. +1
    8 January 2024 02: 37
    Dear forum members and fleet enthusiasts. I ask you to recommend several articles about the modern fleet and its tasks - since in naval matters, I, as someone who does not know the essence, of course, like all ordinary people, am concerned about simple questions about our Black Sea fleet, not a fleet, but a flotilla (there is no ship of the first rank):
    - why is he like this if they only drown him?
    - why a fleet at all - other than to cover our nuclear submarines and why not abandon nuclear submarines altogether, placing missiles on land, under water
    1. +1
      8 January 2024 12: 59
      You can read it here. There are also Balancer Forums, which have a marine theme. In the telegram there is “Messenger of the Submarine”, also interesting. There are foreign sites, but they must be read with an eye toward ideology.
      1. 0
        8 January 2024 17: 08
        Thank you for your recommendations!