Excessive optimism: a million UAVs for Ukrainian forces

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Excessive optimism: a million UAVs for Ukrainian forces
Ukrainian FPV operatorsdrones. Photo: Thedrive.com


The Kyiv regime continues its search for a miracleweapons, which can independently change the course of hostilities and save it from final defeat. Now they are relying on unmanned aerial vehicles of several classes, which are going to be used directly at the front or against objects in the Russian rear. More than bold plans for the production of such equipment have been announced, but their implementation is impossible for a number of objective reasons.



Great plans


The overly ambitious plans of the Kyiv regime in the field of UAVs became known on December 20. They were revealed by the Ukrainian Minister of Strategic Industries Alexander Kamyshin in his blog on one of the popular social networks. He announced the total planned production volumes, but did not disclose other details.

A. Kamyshin reports that next year the existing Ukrainian industry should produce and transfer to the armed forces more than a million UAVs of various models. The bulk of such equipment will belong to the class of shock FPV-drones – they want to produce 1 million of these products. At the same time, this December, they allegedly produced approx. 50 thousand devices of this class.

There are also plans to produce 11 thousand medium- and long-range attack drones. At least a thousand of these products are said to be able to attack targets at ranges of more than 1000 km.


Ukrainian FPV drones with RPG-7 grenades. Photo: Thedrive.com

The minister claims that all production facilities for the production of such equipment are already ready. The process of issuing government contracts for next year begins. They plan to assemble the UAV on their own. The Kiev regime is now trying to expand its own production of the necessary weapons and equipment to reduce dependence on the supply of imported products.

The Minister of Strategic Industries and other representatives of the Kyiv regime have not yet disclosed all the details of the production plan for next year. In particular, it is not specified which models of drones they want to put into a large series, where they will be produced, how their assembly and supply of necessary components will be organized, etc. However, the absence of statements on these topics is quite understandable - the disclosure of any information of this kind will help the Russian army to stop Ukrainian production or neutralize its products.

Required rates


The interest of the Kyiv regime in attack UAVs of different weight categories is quite understandable. Its industrial potential in the context of the production of full-fledged aviation or ground strike systems have been virtually destroyed, and obtaining the desired samples from abroad in sufficient quantities is difficult or impossible. In this regard, it is necessary to look for compromise solutions that can be implemented at the existing level of industry and economy. In other words, having lost manned aircraft and helicopters, as well as other equipment, the Kiev regime is forced to completely switch to light UAVs.

A special place in the new plans is occupied by disposable FPV drones - over the next year they want to produce a million of such products. Apparently, Kiev believes that such a number of kamikaze drones will cover the needs of armed formations, give them the necessary firepower, and also compensate for the losses of other strike systems and means.


Downed Ukrainian UAV "Baba Yaga". Photo Telegram / "Sith Corner"

It is easy to calculate that the annual plan of one million drones corresponds to a monthly production of an average of 83 thousand products. According to various estimates, Ukrainian formations currently receive many times fewer UAVs. The veracity of A. Kamyshin’s recent statements about 50 thousand devices per month is in doubt, as is the ability of Ukrainian industry to reach such a pace.

In parallel with FPV drones, they want to produce 11 thousand medium- and long-range strike vehicles for attacking the deep rear. In this case, the average monthly output should not exceed 900-920 units, which to some extent reduces production requirements. At the same time, we are talking about more complex devices and other requirements for their capabilities and production quality.

Objective difficulties


Now Ukrainian armed forces receive a fairly wide range of UAVs of different classes and types. A significant part of such equipment comes from abroad as foreign aid; Direct purchases also take place. In addition, it is known that there are several local industries that assemble the required equipment from localized and imported components.

The exact number of enterprises in this “industry” and production volumes are unknown. Previously, it was planned to produce thousands of products per month, but now they are talking about 50 thousand. At the same time, the production rate is clearly insufficient to cover all needs. Thus, Ukrainian militants complain about the lack of UAVs and say that the Russian army has many times more such equipment.


The first batch of AQ 400 products. Photo Telegram / "Military Informant"

To produce a million UAVs, Ukrainian industry will have to solve several difficult problems. First of all, it will have to expand existing production facilities and/or open new ones. It is also necessary to ensure the purchase and supply of necessary components from abroad, which cannot be produced independently, and in increased quantities and at a different pace.

Already at the stage of preparation and expansion of production, problems associated with the economic situation in Ukraine should appear. The Kiev regime has limited financial resources and is critically dependent on foreign aid. Funding from abroad is being reduced and may even cease - this will seriously hit all areas, including the production of UAVs.

The expansion of production should not affect quality, otherwise it will turn out to be almost useless. At the same time, not all Ukrainian UAV manufacturers can boast of high product quality and production culture. For example, the first batch of AQ 400 long-range kamikaze drones was recently shown for the first time, and these products did not look the best. The devices had cracks, sloppy finishing, etc. - and each of the eight products had its own set of shortcomings.

The company that manufactures the AQ 400 UAV claims that it is capable of producing 100 such products per month, and in the future it can increase production fivefold. Considering the quality of the drones already shown, one can imagine what the planned expansion of production will lead to. Moreover, similar problems occur not only with the AQ 400 product, but also with other Ukrainian-made samples.


Ukrainian UAV operator. Photo by Reuters

It is important that it will be necessary to increase the pace of production in the face of active opposition from the Russian army. Military production is subject to forced demilitarization, and any site for the assembly of FPV drones or long-range kamikaze UAVs risks becoming a target for another strike. The need for camouflage and secrecy will affect the possible pace of production, and any violation of them can lead to its destruction.

It is assumed that the expansion of production will allow Ukrainian formations to more actively use the resulting UAVs. However, this will entail an obvious reaction in the form of increased opposition from the Russian side. Our troops already have a large number of drone suppression systems, various defense systems and air defense systems. If necessary, they will be able to strengthen this defense, and the effectiveness of enemy UAVs will remain at the same low level.

Unjustified optimism


Thus, the Kiev regime is making bold plans to expand the production of unmanned aerial systems and wants to use them to defeat the Russian army. It seems that we are again talking about a miracle weapon, which will definitely turn the tide at the front and allow us to solve all military and political problems. Such rhetoric has already taken place in the recent past - and the result was far from optimistic expectations.

It is curious that this time Kyiv is not relying on foreign samples from friendly countries, but on its own production. However, the state of its own industry leaves much to be desired, and it is unlikely to cope with the assigned tasks. Therefore, we can already talk about unjustified optimism, which over the next year will certainly collide with harsh reality.
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  1. -5
    22 December 2023 04: 30
    The first sign of the Reich - when a furry animal approaches - the search for child prodigies begins laughing
    1. +10
      22 December 2023 04: 58
      To fall into excessive optimism about excessive optimism among hikhlov -
      extremely harmful...
      1. +17
        22 December 2023 07: 19
        An extremely disingenuous article, underestimating the enemy more than once, in the history of the former Ussr, played a cruel and bloody “joke” on us.
        1. UAVs are produced in hundreds of thousands around the world.
        2. If they don’t build it, they’ll buy it and stick on their own nameplates.
        3. We must not console ourselves with fairy tales, but actually prepare for such massive UAV strikes. They will be at least in the near future, given the political situation along almost our entire border!
        1. -1
          22 December 2023 19: 38
          Quote: Civil
          We must not console ourselves with fairy tales, but actually prepare for such massive UAV strikes. They will be at least in the near future, given the political situation along almost our entire border!

          Everything you wrote is correct. But the Ukrainians also need to be “prepared” for such attacks by releasing 2 million of our drones. This is a double-edged sword, and this is where mathematics comes into play - who will rivet them more and who will finish faster - the Russians or the Ukrainians?
        2. 0
          23 December 2023 22: 21
          They will buy it if they give you pennies. But there's a problem with that. Everyone began to say that they would not give more. Although we still need to prepare for massive drone attacks - this is the future.
        3. +1
          31 January 2024 00: 36
          Currently, the enemy has an increasing number of small drones, and traditional measures to combat them are not very effective. The talking heads on TV won't talk about this, but from the fronts information leaks from the rank and file about how they are sometimes simultaneously attacked by two or three drones per soldier... I believe that it is necessary, and urgently, to create machine guns against UAVs using machine guns cartridge belts loaded with shot. Someone will laugh, but these are fools who do not understand that in war all means are good if they increase efficiency. Massive UAVs attack from low altitudes - from tens of meters to no more than a hundred. An operator from such a height can more or less accurately hit the target. And this distance is available for hitting a UAV with a shotgun charge from a hunting rifle, and stand tests prove this. The problem is that the military-industrial complex is too slow.
          1. +1
            31 January 2024 07: 32
            I will, of course, ideally support cartridges with shot (a cloud of destructive elements) with programmable or remote detonation. All technologies are available, you just need to combine them and put them on stream.
    2. +2
      22 December 2023 14: 36
      the search for child prodigies begins

      What kind of prodigies are we talking about? A drone is already a routine means of destruction that has proven its effectiveness and promise. We also need to increase it, 10-100 times, and quickly!
    3. +7
      22 December 2023 15: 19
      An FPV drone is far from a prodigy, but a simple consumable.

      With an average price of $500-700 per unit in mass production conditions (not taking into account the price of ammunition), the price-effectiveness indicator of such weapons is simply off the charts, even when spending 5-6 units on a conventional tank or infantry fighting vehicle.

      The use of FPV is justified even against infantry in the format 1-2 FPV = 1 corpse, especially if it is the corpse of a specialist (mortarmen, drone pilots, attack aircraft, crews)

      Therefore, let go of your Uryaklov arrogance.
      The enemy is not stupid, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have the opportunity to obtain a sufficient amount of standard ammo for artillery, so they systematically replace this deficiency with more affordable alternatives, and this began "search for child prodigies" already more than a year ago, along with the formation of regular UAV strike companies in each brigade and the massive purchase of FPVs.
      1. -2
        22 December 2023 15: 36
        But for such talk there are site rules
        Quote: Holgerton
        Therefore, let go of your Uryaklov arrogance

        If it's a matter of fact.... In the war where I was... this didn't happen... I can only know from the boys, by the fact that they send me now and tell me exactly what they say. And he himself suffered the hard way from January to May of this year... a friend died... he took a bullet... we pulled him out... he saved the warrior... we made a reset and then a gift arrived... a month in the hospital... .. and not only me... but there was a shrapnel in his neck.... they would have reset it half a minute later.... at the beginning of May he was wounded again from the same thing....
        1. +3
          22 December 2023 16: 50
          Sympathize with you(
          Don’t get me wrong, I regularly travel and help guys with drones and I constantly hear first-hand, so to speak, that every day there are drops, shellings and FPV arrivals and that the pace is only growing and the enemy does not have any shortage of drones, that they seem to have their own drones, but still there is always not enough, etc.

          And then you go to VO and it’s all “it’s not enough, it’s useless, they can’t, they won’t do it, they won’t deliver it,” about the stupid drug mobs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are already running in the thousands to call the Volga, about 100500 destroyed Highmars, giggles about the “counter-offensive,” Zaporozhye in three days and further down the list that it takes on anger.

          A real war is actually far from Ryabov’s fairy tales, we seem to be standing, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not pouring in, we seem to be attacking, but we don’t seem to be moving, it seems like it’s a war, not a war.
          A complete paradox "SVO"
          1. +1
            22 December 2023 17: 31
            Well, what can I say... everything has already been said... thief... thief neve changez....

            And it’s hard later... I may be fine psychologically in the end thanks to one girl... a psychologist.... who was always there love
  2. +2
    22 December 2023 04: 31
    Russia will have to respond to the challenge from the Ukrainian Nazis; first of all, the total destruction of the entire infrastructure of Ukraine, its production facilities, and so on.
    1. 0
      24 December 2023 01: 17
      Its production is in the Czech Republic (this is specifically about UAVs).
      1. 0
        5 January 2024 19: 42
        Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
        Its production is in the Czech Republic

        Russia also has production bases in the Czech Republic. (this is about UAVs)... so the sword is double-edged.
  3. -2
    22 December 2023 05: 31
    They will not be able to find workers for such volumes.
    And old women like Farion will be able, at best, to get to the plant, but not to give the norm.
    Single production is all they can do. Zelensky cannot match the numbers that Hitler had in 1944: there are few people, and those that exist are not workers but talkers.
    1. +1
      23 December 2023 15: 52
      Quote: Danila Rastorguev
      Single production is all they can do.

      Already in October-November 2023, information appeared on Chinese resources about the ability of Ukrainian industry to produce tens of thousands of drones per month by the end of 2023.
  4. +1
    22 December 2023 09: 28
    Actually, it’s realistic to produce such a number of drones. Firstly, this is the mobilization of women, but not to the front, but to these factories, small and many throughout Western Ukraine. You can’t find them all, and the one we destroyed with 10 people inside is not a big loss, we can open a new one. Plus delivery from abroad, these are not multimillion-dollar tanks, these are plastic toys, and the Ukrainians will hang explosives on their own, so it’s morally easier for the West. It seems to me that the question is very difficult for our army, how to shoot down and jam this armada.... I believe that we need to completely bomb the infrastructure with electricity and heat generation in cities with a population of over a million. The population must begin an exodus, then they themselves, without food and warmth, will begin to slaughter the military commissars and the authorities.
    1. +2
      22 December 2023 14: 46
      Quote: alebdun2000
      completely bomb the infrastructure with electricity and heat generation in cities with a population of over a million.

      This is a humanitarian disaster, no one will agree to this. Putin said that we are not fighting with the people of Ukraine. And this is a rare case when I agree with him. Bridges, railways - yes, but not power generation.
      In addition, there may be an agreement: we do not bomb generation and bridges, the United States does not allow us to hit Russian mainland territory with our weapons. Otherwise, I don’t understand why bridges are still enchanted.
      1. +1
        22 December 2023 19: 30
        Quote: MBRBS
        In addition, there may be an agreement: we do not bomb generation and bridges, the United States does not allow us to hit Russian mainland territory with our weapons. Otherwise, I don’t understand why bridges are still enchanted.

        The long-range weapons that the Americans can supply to Ukraine cannot exceed a range of over 300 km. Otherwise, they will violate the cornerstone Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Long-Range Missiles and Missile Technologies. It is not profitable for them, first of all.
        Experts have already explained the reason for the “enchanted bridges” across the Dnieper a hundred times. To destroy the monumental Soviet bridge, you either need to knock out the bridge support or collapse one span. And for this you need to use several tons of explosives at almost one point. The Kalibr and Iskander missiles have a warhead of about 500 kg. That is, up to 15 missiles need to be placed at one point. This does not take into account the mistakes that will probably happen. And there are several dozen such bridges across the Dnieper. If you send planes, this is fraught with serious losses of aircraft. If we talk about this topic, then with great difficulty ours manage to destroy even relatively small bridges in the near rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which they quickly restore. For example, the railway bridge across the estuary in Zatoka was attacked several times.
        1. -2
          22 December 2023 20: 50
          Well, they break the agreement, and what will they do? Nothing. They may well deliver missiles that reach the Kremlin. And most likely this is what they are threatening.
          1. 0
            22 December 2023 21: 19
            Quote: Kmon
            Well, they break the agreement, and what will they do? Nothing. They may well deliver missiles that reach the Kremlin. And most likely this is what they are threatening.

            They won't do anything. It is they who will doom the agreement. That is, a LEGAL precedent for violation by other countries. Long-range missiles will begin to be sold to all and sundry, and wherever and whenever. Including those flying to Washington.
            They don’t need this - to take such risks because of some lousy Outskirts. It was not in vain that I wrote that this is a CORRESPONDENT agreement for all manufacturers of long-range missiles, since this directly affects THEIR safety. If they supply such missiles, it will be only with the condition that the launch is limited to a range of no more than 300 km.
            1. -2
              22 December 2023 22: 25
              Who dares? DPRK or what? So she didn’t sign any contracts anyway. The rest are too afraid of the US to do such a thing. You see, from their point of view, Russia is an outcast country, with which you can do anything and for which no one will harness. Won 300 billion was frozen - and nothing, everyone continues to invest in the dollar. They introduced tough sanctions against the violator of the American world order - the anti-American alliance never came together. And contracts are just pieces of paper. Only the right of might is important. The USA is the strongest, so no one will risk selling someone what will fly to Washington.
              1. 0
                24 December 2023 19: 22
                Quote: Kmon
                Only the right of might is important. The USA is the strongest, so no one will risk selling someone what will fly to Washington.

                Once again: this is a cornerstone treaty in the same category as the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and technologies for their creation. If SUCH agreements begin to be violated by all and sundry, then everyone will have problems. From the United States, if Russia starts selling nuclear missiles to the Houthis and Hezbollah, or the United States to Ukraine.
                The United States and its accomplices have already violated the Helsinki Treaty on the inviolability of borders in Europe. First, uniting the Federal Republic of Germany and the GDR into a single Germany. The collapse of Yugoslavia, and then recognizing the Serbian region of Kosovo. Thus giving Russia the moral and legal right to OFFICIALLY recognize the statehood of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and the LDPR. If you can do it, then it won’t “rust” for us either.
                But for the United States, it’s one thing when a showdown is going on “out there,” and another thing when it begins to affect their security. As, for example, in the famous Cuban missile crisis.
                1. 0
                  24 December 2023 21: 25
                  Don't change concepts. Nuclear missiles and just missiles are on a completely different level. If Russia sells nuclear weapons to someone, it will instantly receive nuclear-armed Baltics, Finland, Poland, Japan and Korea at its borders.

                  The Russian Federation is not the USSR, which could really strike. The US is not afraid of retaliation because it knows how strong the red lines are. But we are afraid of their threats. There is no other way to explain the absence of attacks on critical infrastructure and key individuals.
                  1. 0
                    24 December 2023 22: 11
                    Quote: Kmon
                    Don't change concepts. Nuclear missiles and just missiles are on a completely different level. If Russia sells nuclear weapons to someone, it will instantly receive nuclear-armed Baltics, Finland, Poland, Japan and Korea at its borders.

                    “Just rockets” can simply fly over a nuclear power plant, a hydroelectric dam, a chemical plant. factory, etc. This is a comprehensive treaty, withdrawal from which is fraught with consequences for all signatories. Including from a legal point of view, as a precedent for violation --- then what is the point of all these agreements? All international law will order to live long because of some lousy Ukraine? For the United States, Ukraine is not Israel or NATO allies to launch such a process. Unless, of course, the American elite there has not yet completely gone “off the rails.” This is not about Russia, but about the USA. How far will they go in their political “insanity” and it will begin to backfire on them.
                    Quote: Kmon
                    The Russian Federation is not the USSR, which could really strike. The US is not afraid of retaliation because it knows how strong the red lines are. But we are afraid of their threats. There is no other way to explain the absence of attacks on critical infrastructure and key individuals.

                    The USSR was spoiled by the mythical American SDI program. We cannot discuss with you what the United States is/is not afraid of. But the presence of a nuclear triad in the Russian Federation is a deterrent for the United States. Otherwise, we would have been torn apart long ago according to the Yugoslav scenario.
                    What kind of critical infrastructure is there? They seemed to hit power substations, they couldn’t reach bridges, they hit “decision-making centers” in order to kill 10 cleaners and 20 security guards? - just a media effect for jingoistic patriots.
            2. 0
              24 December 2023 01: 23
              You apparently missed the latest events. The Houthis are firing (well, trying, the Jews are intercepting) Israel with ballistic missiles with a range of 1500 km. Naturally, it was not the Yemenis themselves who collected them in barns from camel dung, but Iran. So those who want and can don’t give a damn about the agreement, parity and precedent.
              1. 0
                24 December 2023 19: 35
                Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
                So those who want and can don’t give a damn about the agreement, parity and precedent.

                You, too, apparently forgot that Iran and, especially, the Houthis did not sign an agreement with anyone. They themselves have been under sanctions for a long time and they don’t really have anything to lose. But if the Houthis get Iskanders and Calibers, then Israel will only have more problems. But, in any case, the Houthis are the so-called. "proxy", and deliveries at the state level in violation of signed agreements are nonsense. It is necessary, at least for the sake of decency, to withdraw from this treaty, just as the Yankees withdrew from the ABM and INF treaties, having notified the Russian Federation in advance.
    2. 0
      22 December 2023 19: 48
      Quote: alebdun2000
      Firstly, this is the mobilization of women, but not to the front, but to these factories, small and many throughout Western Ukraine.

      A significant number of Ukrainian women are leaving for Europe, and those who remain work for men who have left in other industries. It is unlikely that enough people can be recruited for such an ambitious project in Ukraine.
  5. +1
    22 December 2023 11: 48
    The most dangerous thing is if long-range drones start blowing up our oil and gas enterprises. All income rests on them.
  6. +1
    22 December 2023 14: 01
    Today is the day of the power engineer, congratulations to everyone involved, without electricity there is nothing in the modern world, you know what I’m getting at))). Secondly, I think both sides have already understood the importance of drones and the main thing of fighting them, if in the first component they can still somehow compete with us, then in the second we are doing better, increasing the number of UAVs will not lead to anything with good electronic warfare.
  7. -1
    22 December 2023 14: 33
    I estimated that we needed 2 million IDP drones a week to avoid launching a foot attack unless absolutely necessary. Every infantryman should become a drone pilot! And, in principle, this is possible if industry is transferred to a military footing. But Mishustin said that this was not necessary (???).
    What do we have today? I read the news that the income of couriers has increased noticeably, in Moscow up to 200 thousand rubles. they have salaries. Those. While some are sitting in the trenches, going on the attack, laying down their lives for their Motherland, others are ordering snacks and goods delivered to their home, because they themselves are at a loss to get to the store? Is this even normal?
    If it were up to me, I would ban courier service and close most cafes and restaurants. At the same time, workers would be freed up for the defense industry.
    1. +1
      22 December 2023 19: 43
      Salaries from 80 to 120 thousand at Yandex Shops, I know, the office is in our house, our janitors went there. Delivery is needed, my wife and I were sick recently, delivery helps a lot. But young people now don’t cook at home. In Moscow after 18 cafes, etc. packed daily. Information for thought, we have missed a lot of attention in the education of young people!
  8. 0
    23 December 2023 01: 37
    I read the news that the income of couriers has increased noticeably, in Moscow up to 200 thousand rubles. they have salaries. Those. while some are sitting in the trenches,

    Why are they sitting in the cold in damp trenches when they can earn the same money as a courier?
    Real salaries in factories are 40.000 per month for ordinary people ready for night shifts... Everything else is advertising for places with high staff turnover!
    1. 0
      24 December 2023 20: 14
      Quote: Danila Rastorguev
      Why are they sitting in the cold in damp trenches when they can earn the same money as a courier?

      Were those mobilized offered a choice? Write bullshit.
  9. 0
    23 December 2023 21: 48
    Perhaps the article correctly assessed Ukraine’s potential for UAV production. However, there are still many countries, and especially China, which has enormous and incomparable capabilities for the production of UAVs with Russia and which is happy to work on two fronts. Therefore, Ukraine’s talk about “its” production has a masking character and with appropriate funding from the West, which undoubtedly is and will be, the fight over UAVs will unfold in earnest and it is difficult to say which side will have the advantage, at least in the near future. I will give indirect evidence of the advantage of the socialist-capitalist forms of production in China. This fall I tried to buy drones on Aliexpress twice. Paid twice. Twice I was informed that the drones had been shipped from the factory. But... they didn't send it to me. The money was returned to me after a couple of months. But where are the drones themselves, if they were produced by private companies? Right. The Chinese state confiscated them and... resold them at exorbitant prices to the highest bidder. And here it will be difficult for Russia to compete with the West. So the West does not need to produce millions of shells for Ukraine. It is enough to buy millions of drones in China.
  10. 0
    23 December 2023 22: 56
    My deep couch opinion.
    first Baryraktars, then leopards, then Fu-16s, Abramses, all this was presented as the threshold of victory and a super-duper prodigy.
    Now UAV.
    I don’t think anything will work with them either. Why? They are already saying and making false claims that there will be total mobilization. Plus a large outflow of population from the country. those. no human resources.
    The West said it won’t give any more money, because there are many other issues and this is not the horse’s food. I have no money of my own. T, E, no financial resources.
    You can also play this game together. And ours will not look at their production; gifts will fly as soon as production is discovered. They can and do produce a certain amount.

    BUT! We need to prepare for massive drone attacks in any case. Simply because this is the future of all wars. And this task is extremely important and necessary. And even now in the Northern Military District we cannot relax our buns.
  11. 0
    24 December 2023 01: 38
    AQ 400 is cool. The Shahed principle, taken to the absolute, is truly made of merde and sticks. In the final version, the cart is separated at launch, that is, it does not interfere with the flight, and is also reusable. This allows you to launch them in unlimited quantities from any flat surface, even from the road, even from a frozen pond. The cost is stated at $15000, even “Shahed” is estimated to cost $20000, but with mass production it can be reduced even more. And for each such gravity gun you will need an expensive and complex anti-aircraft missile.
  12. 0
    24 December 2023 01: 46
    Quote from Enceladus
    But for such talk there are site rules
    Quote: Holgerton
    Therefore, let go of your Uryaklov arrogance

    If it's a matter of fact.... In the war where I was... this didn't happen... I can only know from the boys, by the fact that they send me now and tell me exactly what they say. And he himself suffered the hard way from January to May of this year... a friend died... he took a bullet... we pulled him out... he saved the warrior... we made a reset and then a gift arrived... a month in the hospital... .. and not only me... but there was a shrapnel in his neck.... they would have reset it half a minute later.... at the beginning of May he was wounded again from the same thing....

    Every comment from you mentions participation in hostilities. Strong suspicion that you are lying
  13. 0
    31 January 2024 00: 02
    Yes, we really need to demolish the decision-making centers - identify 1000 targets - the top of the Ukrainian Reich and bomb the places where they live in warm beds overnight. If I had my way... uhhhh
  14. 0
    22 February 2024 13: 12
    With an average price of $500-700 per unit in mass production conditions (not taking into account the price of ammunition), the price-effectiveness indicator of such weapons is simply off the charts, even when spending 5-6 units on a conventional tank or infantry fighting vehicle.

    The use of FPV is justified even against infantry in the format 1-2 FPV = 1 corpse, especially if it is the corpse of a specialist (mortarmen, drone pilots, attack aircraft, crews)

    The price of a FPV drone is this, but the operator must have a very high qualification - at the level of a pilot. And to control the PDF, continuous radiation is needed both from the drone itself and from the operator.
    The drone itself is very fragile and flies at low speed and altitude.
    Its effectiveness is no higher than the Japanese kamikazes in the Pacific War - less than 10% of hits from successfully flying drones on a detected target and when countered only by anti-aircraft artillery fire and target maneuver.
    Blinding them is quite possible using cheap methods, including: flashlights at night and mirrors during the day, smoke grenades, flamethrowers, suppression of signals from and to drones, and so on.
    It can be shot down by all types of firearms, hunting weapons, under-barrel grenade launchers with buckshot, RPGs with buckshot, and all types of KAZ for armored vehicles. Maybe a stream of water from a fire hose will be enough to shoot down a drone.
    After a few months, their effectiveness will drop to 1% hit, which is also not bad, but not a prodigy.
  15. -1
    8 March 2024 04: 33
    Quote: Askold65
    Quote: Civil
    We must not console ourselves with fairy tales, but actually prepare for such massive UAV strikes. They will be at least in the near future, given the political situation along almost our entire border!

    Everything you wrote is correct. But the Ukrainians also need to be “prepared” for such attacks by releasing 2 million of our drones. This is a double-edged sword, and this is where mathematics comes into play - who will rivet them more and who will finish faster - the Russians or the Ukrainians?

    Who will we replace the Russians with?
  16. 0
    18 March 2024 13: 01
    It is curious that this time Kyiv is not relying on foreign samples from friendly countries, but on its own production.

    What kind of in-house production? In the best case, the assembly from imported components is purchased with someone else’s money, and most likely the product is prepared with someone else’s money.
    But buying a million drones is just the beginning. They need a million ammunition - metal, explosives, explosive gunpowder. Someone should make them too. Then, for FPV drones, you need operators with pilot qualifications.
    Finally, this next prodigy will also find his master. Smoke, blinding, signal jamming, shrapnel, automatic small arms, spaced armor, and so on. Bistros will find the most effective method or methods of counteraction and the effectiveness of the FPV of drones will drop to unguided munitions.
  17. 0
    April 5 2024 14: 33
    Why do they need a million drones? There are fewer military personnel in our army! although of course you have to ask for more, but whatever happens will work out.