Development plans: Hurricanes will be replaced by Tornado-S

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Development plans: Hurricanes will be replaced by Tornado-S
MLRS "Uragan" in the Special Operation zone


Rocket artillery, equipped with systems of several types and modifications, is most actively participating in the current Special Operation for the demilitarization of Ukraine. Artillery units and subunits are accumulating new experience, which is now used when drawing up plans for the future. In particular, a decision was made to gradually abandon one of the existing samples in favor of a modern system with higher characteristics.



Modern replacement


On November 17, the official newspaper of the Ministry of Defense, Krasnaya Zvezda, published a long interview with the head of the missile forces and artillery of the ground forces, Lieutenant General Dmitry Klimenko. On the eve of the professional holiday of his branch of the army, the general spoke about recent successes and plans for the future.

In particular, the interview touched on the topic of new precision-guided ammunition for all types of artillery, including rocket artillery. General Klimenko recalled that multiple launch rocket systems are receiving new guided munitions. Thanks to this, they “transition into a qualitatively new state” and become highly accurate weapons with increased fire efficiency.


As an example, the head of the RMiA cited the modern Tornado-S MLRS, which uses unguided and guided projectiles. At the same time, according to him, such a system replaces the old Smerch and Hurricane products. Now it is effectively used in the Special Operation zone.

Lieutenant General D. Klimenko did not disclose the topic of replacing the Uragan system, but details of such plans soon became known. They were revealed on November 23 by Izvestia. Allegedly, this data was obtained from sources in the defense department.

It is reported that the Uragan MLRS still retain their place in the missile defense forces and successfully carry out combat missions within the framework of the Special Operation. In addition, work continues to modernize this equipment along the lines of the well-known Uragan-1M project. However, the process of updating such systems faces objective difficulties that limit the achievable result.

In this regard, a decision was made to replace the existing Hurricanes with longer-range and efficient Tornado-S systems. In addition, a general plan for such re-equipment has been drawn up. How soon the corresponding processes will begin, and when the rocket artillery will switch to new equipment, has not yet been specified.


Launching 220 mm shells

The process of retrofitting parts and connections is divided into two stages. During the first, Tornado-S will replace the existing Hurricanes in rocket and artillery brigades from military districts and combined arms armies. Secondly, artillery regiments will receive new equipment. tank and motorized rifle divisions.

Current samples


The 9K57 Uragan MLRS was created in the early seventies in accordance with the requirements of that time. In 1975, it was adopted by the Soviet army, and since then it has been one of the main weapons of domestic rocket artillery. As the service continued, the Hurricanes underwent one or another minor modification. In addition, in the recent past, a deep modernization project for Uragan-1M was developed with the replacement of main components.

The 9K57 system is built on the basis of a self-propelled launcher on a ZIL-135LM wheeled chassis. A package of 16 tubular guides of 220 mm caliber is mounted in the rear part of the chassis. The design of the launcher allows firing within a wide sector in azimuth with elevation angles of up to 55°. Aiming is carried out manually using a panoramic sight.

A wide range of 220-mm unguided rockets with different payloads and different characteristics was developed for the Hurricane. The main ammunition is considered to be the high-explosive fragmentation 9M27F, which has a mass of 280 kg and carries a 100 kg warhead. Firing range – up to 35 km. There is also a family of 9M27K cluster products, incendiary, thermobaric and other missiles with similar parameters.


MLRS "Tornado-S"

In the 9K512 Uragan-1M project, the system was almost completely rebuilt. It was transferred to the MZKT-7930 chassis and equipped with a new launcher based on replaceable transport and launch containers with guides for missiles. At the same time, the system became bicaliber. The ammunition included two containers with 30 220 mm caliber shells or 16 300 mm caliber missiles, borrowed from the Smerch MLRS.

The 9K58 Smerch MLRS entered service in the second half of the eighties. It was a wheeled chassis system equipped with a 12-rail 300mm rail package. The standard 9M55 family of ammunition ensured the destruction of area targets at ranges of up to 70 km; the use of different combat units was envisaged.

In the tens, the new 9K515 Tornado-S system entered service - in fact, a deep modernization of the Smerch. It received modern navigation and communications equipment, an improved fire control system, etc., which had a positive impact on its main technical and combat characteristics. New lines of ammunition are also being developed. Modern 300-mm projectiles have a range of about 100-120 km and are characterized by increased accuracy.

Weapon system


Currently, the missile forces and artillery of our army are armed with MLRS of several main types. They all have common fire missions, but differ in terms of tactical and technical characteristics, capabilities and place in the overall weapons system. The combined use of this technique allows you to obtain maximum practical results.


The tasks of hitting targets within a radius of up to 20 km are assigned to 122-mm Grad systems or modernized Tornado-G systems. At the same time, new ammunition with a range of up to 40 km has been developed for the latter. Uragan is capable of sending missiles to a range of up to 35 km, and they carry a heavier and more powerful combat load. In the range from 35-40 to 100-120 km, rocket artillery is represented by the modern Tornado-S system.

It is not difficult to notice the position of the Uragan MLRS in such a weapon system. It occupies a place between “Tornado-G” / “Grad” and “Tornado-S” / “Smerch” and, due to its features, has advantages over both. Thus, Uragan shells fly further than Grad ammunition and carry a larger load, and are also much cheaper than the larger 300-mm Smerch / Tornado-S missiles.

However, the latest generation of projectiles for the Tornado-G casts doubt on the need for further use of the Uragan. These 122mm rockets fly further than 220mm products, and also have increased accuracy, which can compensate for the difference in power. In turn, at ranges of more than 30-40 km, only the Tornado-S can be used, which is also superior to other domestic MLRS in terms of combat load.


Judging by the last news, RMiA no longer sees the point in simultaneous operation of three different MLRS with different characteristics. With the help of the latest developments, it is proposed to divide the Hurricane niche between two samples of the Tornado family.

It is important that the main role in this process will be entrusted to the 300 mm Tornado-S system. This means that heavy rockets will be used over a wider range of ranges with clear results. Due to the heavier warhead and control systems, greater damage will be inflicted on the enemy.

In the process of updating


Thus, the Russian army continues to develop its rocket artillery and makes this process almost continuous. Not long ago, new versions of existing MLRS were developed, and now improved ammunition for them is being created. In addition, now, based on the experience of real combat operations, it is proposed to change the principles of manning missile defense units.

Modern experience has shown that the Uragan MLRS remains a convenient and effective tool for solving its problems. At the same time, the development of other multiple launch rocket systems actually makes it unnecessary. In this regard, in the future they will get rid of the Hurricanes, replacing them with other equipment. It is argued that such a decision has already been made, and now it is only a matter of time.
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  1. +21
    27 November 2023 04: 42
    First you need to supply the required number of Tornado-G and Tornado-S, and only then think about where to use the Uragan, and this is a distant prospect. By the way, I served 33 years ago on the Grads and even then there were shells (we have them in Hungary it wasn’t) with a range of up to 40 km. And mobility and range are also good, but as they have already written on VO more than once, a reconnaissance-communications-battery complex is required - adjustment, evaluation, recharging.
    1. +11
      27 November 2023 09: 40
      Who and how much will produce these same MLRS Tornado-S? On this site they told how the henchmen of the order bearer Chemezov are bankrupting and destroying the manufacturer of these same MLRS Motovilikha. And now the same Chemezov who tore apart our military-industrial complex will suddenly begin to produce Tornado-S MLRS in commercial quantities? Not funny at all.
      1. AAK
        +11
        27 November 2023 10: 51
        Everything is absolutely correct! "Motovilikha" is being finished off (and this is not only MLRS, but also the lion's share of army and naval artillery systems), the second developer - "Splav" alone - will not be able to handle this project, well, 120 km of range at almost 200 (this is if you don’t shoot ATACMS ) for MLRS and “Haymars” and almost 300 for “Polonaise” - it’s like yesterday or the day before yesterday, the same as “Malva” instead of “Msta-S” ... “and where didn’t ours disappear?! Ours, however, she disappeared everywhere!!!"
        1. +5
          27 November 2023 12: 01
          Everything is absolutely correct! "Motovilikha" is finished off (and this is not only MLRS, but also the lion's share of army and naval artillery systems),

          Let's call everything by its proper name. Motovilikha is being finished off by Chemezov’s gang, who is protected by the GDP itself and no one will stop them. The main question here is whether Russia can withstand another 7 years of such rule?
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        3. +5
          27 November 2023 20: 04
          The alloy makes rockets, the motorist attaches guides to military trucks, you have some kind of mess in your head. And the reel works quite well, bankruptcy does not always mean cutting it into ferrous metal
          1. +1
            27 November 2023 21: 04
            The alloy makes rockets, the motorist attaches guides to military trucks, you have some kind of mess in your head. And the reel works quite well, bankruptcy does not always mean cutting it into ferrous metal

            That is, in your opinion, the production of the most complex MLRS Tornado-S comes down to attaching guides to the truck? And of course you’re not a mess in your head?
            Anyone else who thinks so, I suggest reading the following articles and I want to say a huge thank you to the VO publication and a special thank you to the author Roman Skomorokhov for his courage and demonstrated civic position in defending Motovilikha and for the published articles.
            https://topwar.ru/204109-motovilihinskie-zavody-spasti-ili-vse-taki-dobit.html
            https://topwar.ru/216486-motovilihinskie-zavody-oborona-v-ozhidanii-kontrnastuplenija.html
            https://topwar.ru/219118-doroga-protiv-rosteha-vedet-v-tjurmu.html
            1. -1
              27 November 2023 23: 30
              Quote: ramzay21
              That is, in your opinion, the production of the most complex MLRS Tornado-S comes down to attaching guides to the truck? And of course you’re not a mess in your head?

              What's the porridge? What type of on-board computer and guide rail lifts were not mentioned by me? It’s a mess in the head of a commentator who, paraphrasing, said that without Sevmash, the Votkinsk plant will not build Boreev. He didn’t do this, but we need rockets that need to be riveted in thousands a day, which is not observed
        4. +3
          28 November 2023 17: 24
          Quote: AAK
          like "Malva" instead of "Msta-S"

          This is not at all instead of . Firstly, Malva is 3 times cheaper and faster to produce. Secondly, the “Malva” comes with the barrels of the “Msta-B” towed guns and, in fact, the “Malva” is used to replace the towed guns and as a cheaper addition to tracked self-propelled guns.
          And at the facilities where the Msta-S self-propelled guns were previously upgraded to SM, they are now building the Coalition-SV.
          So both Chemezov and Manturov ruined the defense industry, but everyone wants to live. Because, strangely enough, the lazy people and the idlers also made money.
          If you want to live, that’s not how you’ll earn money.
          And regarding the "Hurricanes" ... If the production of ammunition for them has been preserved and it is possible to increase their range to at least 60-70 km. , then it would be possible to keep them in service, but at the same time changing their base. Because that's basically the problem. They did the same with the Grad launchers, simply installing them on a new chassis. So if everything is in order with the Hurricane launchers, then you can definitely find new chassis for them.
          During a war, everything that can shoot must shoot at the enemy.
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    2. 0
      28 November 2023 14: 51
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      First you need

      First of all, new ammunition with a caliber of 220 mm. Long-range and controllable.
      Then the old Hurricane will still serve, especially since communication means and topographic references can be easily installed on the old base in our electronic age. And then they will finish the Uragan-1M or replace these complexes with Tornado-S.
  2. +5
    27 November 2023 04: 50
    Finally, an understanding has come to stop shooting at areas in favor of high-precision weapons, albeit more expensive...
  3. +4
    27 November 2023 04: 55
    Thank you, dear Kirill, for your detailed review.
    Actually, artillery was created in order to “fire” a deadly charge more accurately and further away. Probably, the experience of the SVO will provide certain directions in changing the structure of MLRS and dividing them into MLRS “short” (up to 40 km), “medium” (up to 120 km) and “long” (up to 300-350 km) range.
    The most important thing in this is the unification of systems. Choosing the best in its class.
    The container loading system should not be discounted either.
    * * *
    For example, I like it when the calculation takes place on the march not in the back or on an attached “bench,” but in a closed cabin, where a place to rest can be provided.
  4. +3
    27 November 2023 05: 29
    A tornado with an air blast is a cool thing, it sweeps away everything on the surface like a broom.
  5. +1
    27 November 2023 05: 35
    Quote: Krilion
    Finally, an understanding has come to stop shooting at areas in favor of high-precision weapons, albeit more expensive...

    It’s good that this understanding did not come to everyone. One does not replace the other.
  6. +3
    27 November 2023 08: 15
    Every medal has two sides...
    + - unification of equipment. Facilitates training, operation and repair.
    - - My personal opinion is that it is a great pity that the Uragan-1M multi-caliber MLRS project was not developed. Here we would get a complete analogue of the American "CHIMERS"
    1. +3
      27 November 2023 08: 33
      Making Uragan-1M is one thing, but explaining why it is needed if Smerch exists are two big differences.
      1. NKT
        +3
        27 November 2023 11: 38
        So the experience of the SVO has also shown that the Smerch with its 12 guides is not needed. Since he doesn’t use all the guides at once, that’s why he goes to the point with three to five missiles.
        1. +3
          27 November 2023 19: 55
          This just showed that there are not tens of thousands of missiles to fire at least one ammunition from hundreds of systems every day.
        2. +3
          27 November 2023 22: 02
          Quote: NKT
          So the experience of the SVO has also shown that the Smerch with its 12 guides is not needed. Since he doesn’t use all the guides at once, that’s why he goes to the point with three to five missiles.

          What else did he show in your opinion?
          Smerch caliber 300mm, Hurricane 220mm. The Smerch on MAZ, the Hurricane on ZIL 135 sp/h are no longer in nature. Tornado range 20 -120 km (9M542), Hurricane 35 km.
          Modernization of Hurricanes? “Without a stamp, they write in plain language,” but what else can you do? They change the chassis, increase the range, etc. Modern systems are just beginning to enter the Armed Forces, but we need to fight now!
          Even our modern systems are inferior in range and accuracy to similar systems "Polonaise M", PHL-16/19 9China).
  7. +4
    27 November 2023 09: 39
    It is difficult now to judge whether this is better or worse, although now our army is gaining the most valuable experience of the 21st century, I hope this decision is correct, and if not, then we will quickly understand it, although in my opinion there should still be a medium-range MLRS
  8. +2
    27 November 2023 09: 47
    The hurricane is now just a waste of shells; we need high-precision weapons. Hurricanes will only work under attack conditions; if the enemy is entrenched, their effectiveness will be extremely low. We need precision weapons. For example, first they calculated the coordinates from a drone, then hit
    The Americans have all the high-precision equipment, even their guns, three axes. Those who supply guns to Ukraine can do so without control, but the US Army now has control.
    1. +3
      27 November 2023 13: 33
      Firstly, Americans also generally do not shoot with Excaliburs. Secondly, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already complaining that these Excaliburs are flying anywhere due to Russian electronic warfare systems. And there are point goals, and there are also area goals.
      In addition, the use of precision weapons requires good intelligence and operational communications. With good adjustments and regular projectiles you can hit well.
      And yes, there are guided missiles for Tornado-G and Tornado-S and have been in use for a long time.
  9. +5
    27 November 2023 11: 26
    We need to change the reactor reactors' general safety standards! The fact that now in the army artillery brigade is a frail division of 8 installations - this is really NOT ENOUGH for the army! We need a full-fledged Soviet division (12 launchers), or better yet, a scanty jet regiment (24 launchers).
  10. +1
    27 November 2023 12: 04
    They don’t treat the “Hurricane” in a businesslike manner. There is a normal launcher in thousands of pieces. The whole problem is the range of the projectile, although 35 km is normal in capable hands, given, if any, huge reserves of shells for the war left over from the USSR. North Korea will also help.
    We were able to increase the range of the BM-21 projectile to 40 km and the Smerch projectile to 120 km, with high accuracy.
    This means that the control and guidance system can be transferred from the Smerch to the Hurricane. The caliber allows it.
    You can also put the head warhead from the TOS on the Uragan. Here the caliber is generally one to one.
    The decision to get rid of Hurricane is sabotage and sabotage. soldier
    1. 0
      27 November 2023 14: 43
      You must be joking, thousands of “normal” launchers?
      A very specific chassis from the shaggy years with a plastic cabin and unguided projectiles at 35 km...
  11. -1
    27 November 2023 12: 09
    If they were able to increase the range and power for the Tornado-G, then what’s stopping you from doing the same for the Hurricane? The production of products for Hurricane is much cheaper, technologically simpler and quantitatively higher than for Smerch. Tornado-g is for close combat, and if NATO artillery can hit this position, then for Hurricane there may not be such a problem if it is improved like Grad. I would give up the Tornado0g and keep the modernized Hurricane.
  12. 0
    27 November 2023 12: 50
    https://t.me/gunscalendar
  13. -1
    27 November 2023 15: 04
    Well, actually, it’s better to have both systems in service, one hits effectively over areas, the second has high accuracy, but against individual targets. To decide what to leave, you need to calculate the cost of the salvo for different scenarios, as always - money is everything.
  14. -1
    27 November 2023 19: 06
    Air defense is already successfully intercepting Hymers, S-200s, and Storm Shadows... These are targets comparable in size to Smerch ammunition. Electronic warfare removes high-precision weapons, including Excaliburs. And this is in a low-intensity conflict without damaging satellite reconnaissance and navigation systems, we don’t even touch high-altitude drones over the sea. Of course, high-precision ammunition for Smerch is good, but the main word here is VALLEY! And as a salvo system, even Tornado-S will not overcome the line at which the modern Thor will end up. I think so. It looks like we are continuing to prepare for the last war...
  15. 0
    27 November 2023 19: 43
    You need to get rid of Hail/Tornado G.
    Well, more precisely, they won’t get rid of it, but stop developing it and use what they have according to the residual principle.
    But Hurricane just needs to be developed. And to replace the Grad too. Ammunition with a shorter range but with a larger warhead. About the same as Uraganovsky OD RSs.
    Work like this on the front end.
    Usually, for short-range shooting, brake rings are used, which is a blatant waste of the fuel mixture.
    The range is now 35 km. And increasing this parameter by 5-10 km will not be difficult. Chemistry has come a long way in recent years.
  16. +1
    27 November 2023 19: 58
    This news is at least 10 years old; Hurricanes are being used until the missiles in their warehouses run out.
  17. +1
    27 November 2023 21: 06
    Quote: AAK
    “Motovilikha” is being finished off (and this is not only MLRS, but also the lion’s share of army and naval artillery systems), the second developer, “Splav”, cannot handle this project alone,
    No one achieves anything, but continues to work successfully and complete the assigned tasks. NPO "Splav" and "Motovilikha Plants" make their part of the systems, but have never dealt with STT solid propellant rocket engines.
  18. -1
    27 November 2023 21: 57
    You don’t have to be a strategist to understand that if a “hail” hits 40 km, then the “hurricane” is no longer needed. MLRS units will have two types of vehicles and armored vehicles, instead of three. Simplified operation and logistics.
  19. +1
    28 November 2023 01: 24
    First you need to fully use the existing ammunition for the Hurricane and then remove it from service
    1. -3
      28 November 2023 02: 18
      Only at the same time, one must keep in mind that Soviet reserves have exhausted all conceivable shelf life, misalignment with the guide is far from the worst scenario, and re-manufacturing obsolete unguided projectiles is a waste of materials and the resource of machine tools (previously they could have soldered an article for this).
      And don’t think in the direction of Tornado-G, it’s unlikely there’s anything really useful there. Something like this.
  20. +1
    28 November 2023 07: 04
    Quote: V.
    There is a normal launcher in thousands of pieces. ... the control and guidance system can be transferred from the Smerch to the Uragan. The decision to get rid of Hurricane is sabotage and sabotage.
    Why engage in research, production, and operation of three MLRS systems if the performance characteristics of two systems solve the assigned tasks.
    1. +1
      28 November 2023 09: 29
      All these MLRS based on the MAZ-79111 with 12 guides are too large vehicles and are clearly visible from space, they are difficult to hide and camouflage, it would be better to take installations with 6 guides based on the KamAZ-6350, which are noticeably lighter, smaller and several times cheaper
    2. -1
      28 November 2023 09: 29
      All these MLRS based on the MAZ-79111 with 12 guides are too large vehicles and are clearly visible from space, they are difficult to hide and camouflage; it would be more correct to take installations with 6 guides based on the KamAZ-6350, which are noticeably lighter, smaller and several times cheaper.
  21. 0
    28 November 2023 10: 21
    There is another question here, if we take Khimars (which “shot very brightly” in this conflict), then it is exactly in the caliber of the “Hurricane” and this allows you to place 6 pieces of 220mm missiles on a 6x6 truck with an armored cab. An analogue of the Tornado-S with 6 pieces of 300mm missiles already requires a KamAZ-8x8. I’m not saying this is good or bad, but it needs to be considered and tied to transport vehicles/cars/ships....and the bi-caliber of Himars needs to be adopted. A simple BR (cheaper than the Iskander BR), so that it could be launched from both the Tornado and the Iskander. For mass production, not all targets need an expensive and sophisticated Iskander missile.
  22. +1
    28 November 2023 17: 30
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Khimars, then it is just in the caliber of the “Hurricane” and this allows you to place 6 pieces of 220mm missiles on a 6x6 truck.
    M142 HIMARS - 6 missiles, caliber 227 mm, 9K57 "Hurricane" - 16 missiles, caliber 220 mm
    1. -1
      28 November 2023 22: 31
      I'm talking about the trend with corrugated missiles on a 6x6 truck... a couple of such vehicles will solve the problem of a battery with NURS
  23. +2
    29 November 2023 06: 25
    Quote: Zaurbek
    I'm talking about the trend with corrugated missiles on a 6x6 truck... a couple of such vehicles will solve the problem of a battery with NURS
    "Tornado-G" - 40 guided rockets of 122 mm caliber. How is this arrangement?
  24. 0
    23 January 2024 12: 57
    I hope on the BAZ chassis, and not on the Belarusian Maz?
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 06: 28
      I looked for this question in the comments, the ZIL 135 lm is still lighter and more mobile than the MZKT. The last of the BAZs also do not look light, rather like a replacement for the MAZ 537 and 543, but what do we have in the middle segment between MZKT and the Urals?
  25. 0
    23 January 2024 13: 11
    The range is approximately the same as that of the Grad. But the main problem is the ancient and strange Zil chassis. There are no spare parts for them, as the Zil plant no longer exists.
    It is logical that as long as it is possible to make one out of three, they will travel. But what next?
    There is no point in investing money and time in a new projectile if the chassis is outdated and a more powerful rocket is already available.

    You can, of course, try to put everything on the Baz chassis, but is there any point... Then it’s better to install the Tornado right away.
  26. 0
    11 March 2024 18: 57
    Quote: FomaKinyaev
    I looked for this question in the comments, the ZIL 135 lm is still lighter and more mobile than the MZKT. The last of the BAZs also do not look light, rather like a replacement for the MAZ 537 and 543, but what do we have in the middle segment between MZKT and the Urals?


    Less Mazov. And ZIL had a smaller caliber.