Su-17 fighter-bombers in the ranks of the Ukrainian Air Force

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Su-17 fighter-bombers in the ranks of the Ukrainian Air Force

The ferocity and scope of the fighting during the Russian special military operation (CBO) in Ukraine revealed one unsightly fact - unlike low-intensity conflicts, during full-scale combat operations there is a catastrophic shortage of military equipment, of course, as losses on both sides increase, the situation gets worse.

One of the ways to solve the problem of the shortage of military equipment for the warring parties was the use of outdated, retired samples of military equipment from storage warehouses. First of all, this affected ground combat vehicles - tanks, infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), self-propelled artillery units (SPGs) and much more.



It is characteristic that as soon as outdated models of military equipment appear in the ranks of the armed forces of the opposing sides, the media (media) of the opposite side of the conflict begin to present this almost as a harbinger of the imminent collapse of the enemy’s armed forces - they say that there is such a shortage of equipment that it is necessary remove all junk from warehouses. These songs are happily picked up by commentators on thematic resources, while in relation to the same old stuff used by their own armed forces, a diametrically opposite opinion is often expressed.

As practice shows, for the most part, obsolete weapons can actually be quite effective on the battlefield, especially if, in the process of returning them to service, key systems are modernized, which greatly increase the effectiveness of their use, for example, sighting systems, navigation and communications equipment.

In particular, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) quite successfully operate modernized and simply restored T-54/T-55 tanks in the Northern Military District zone, and as for the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU), they use everything they can get , up to twin Maxim machine guns, used to destroy low-flying unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).


Twin Maxim machine guns, designed to combat Russian kamikaze UAVs of the Geran-2 type

It should be mentioned that another “discovery” of the SVO was reincarnation of some types of weapons and concepts, seemingly already forgotten or rejected by the armed forces of the leading countries of the world, and now again proving to be in demand and effective.

More recently, information has appeared that the Ukrainian Air Force has commissioned a Su-17 fighter-bomber.

According to one version, this is a Su-17M3M aircraft, the only aircraft of this type available in Ukraine, used to maintain the flying skills of pilots of the Zaporozhye Aircraft Manufacturing Plant.

According to another version, this could be one of the Su-22M4 or S-22UMZK aircraft (export modifications of the Su-17), which the Polish Air Force has in the amount of 18 units, then this could be a trial balloon before the delivery of the remaining Polish Su-22M4 and S to the Ukrainian Armed Forces -22UMZK.


Su-22M4 Polish Air Force

In addition, we should not forget that when we talk about one Su-17 aircraft available in Ukraine, we mean only an operational - flying aircraft, and in total at the time of the collapse of the USSR there were about 30 Su-17s in Ukraine in varying degrees of preservation, it is possible that some of them can be restored with the help of Western countries.

In total, 1 Su-165 aircraft of various modifications were produced, of which more than 17 aircraft are in operation in different countries of the world, so the aircraft are potentially somewhere to be found, and spare parts for their restoration are available.

Of course, as in other similar cases of the use of outdated military equipment, a lot of derogatory comments appeared on thematic resources, although there is nothing funny about it.

Aircraft of the Su-17/Su-22 family, especially in the latest modifications and after minor modifications, can quite effectively solve a number of tasks, practically not inferior to modern combat vehicles. Such tasks to be solved may include:

– air support for ground units on the line of combat contact (LCC);
– high-precision strikes weapons (WTO) long range;
– use as a kamikaze UAV;
– suppression of ground (surface) air defense (air defense) systems;
– work on airplanes and helicopters of the Russian Air Force.

Let's consider the capabilities of the Sy-17/Su-22 in solving the above problems in more detail.

Air support


The Su-17 fighter-bomber was developed on the basis of the Su-7 fighter-bomber. A rotary wing was introduced on the Su-17 aircraft, which improved its performance characteristics (flight characteristics), but in return, to reduce weight, all armor protection and means of ensuring combat survivability were removed.

Of course, other changes were made - a new engine, communications, power supply, etc. There was even a low-altitude unit installed, providing automatic flight with terrain following according to radio altimeter data in the altitude range of 200–500 meters, as well as sights for bombing from a nose-up position.


In principle, when solving problems of air support for ground units on LBS using unguided munitions, aircraft such as Su-17/Su-22 will not be much inferior to more modern combat aircraft, perhaps, in some sense, in terms of cost/effectiveness they will be even better - at least their loss will cause much less damage to the budget of the Armed Forces (in general, the use of modern combat aircraft of generation 4+ and higher with unguided munitions on LBS cannot be justified).

As for guided munitions, the Su-17M3 modification can use fairly modern X-25, Kh-25ML, Kh-29L missiles with semi-active laser homing, Kh-25MR with radio command guidance, and the Su-17M4 could also use Kh-29T missiles with a television homing head. The above ammunition can either be available in the warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces or be supplied by NATO countries from the availability of other countries.


Kh-29L (left) and Kh-29T (right) missiles

Taking into account the growing experience of NATO countries in integrating Soviet weapons and Western ammunition, Su-17/Su-22 aircraft can potentially be integrated unguided aircraft missiles (UAR) HYDRA, upgraded into laser-guided guided munitions – they are now supplied to the APU for use from ground-based launchers (PU). Target search and missile guidance can be carried out using an overhead container (or several specialized containers).

A much greater threat could be the integration on the Su-17/Su-22 of guided gliding aerial bombs IDAM, which are an analogue of our high-explosive aerial bombs (FAB), equipped with unified planning and correction modules (UMPC) - currently Russian FAB with UMPC are one of the most serious problems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


Su-17/Su-22 fighter-bombers can cope with the use of JDAM bombs no worse than the F-16 fighter

Long-range missile strikes


Perhaps this is the most effective option for using Su-17/Su-22 aircraft. NATO countries have already integrated Storm Shadow / SKALP-EG long-range cruise missiles on Soviet Su-24 and Mig-29 aircraft, and there is no doubt that they will also integrate them on the SU-17/SU-22.

Starting with the modification of the Su-17M, the payload mass was increased to four tons, while the weight of the Storm Shadow / SKALP-EG KP is 1,3 tons, that is, one Su-17/Su-22 aircraft can potentially carry up to two KP Storm Shadow / SKALP-EG. A in the worst case it will be American JASSM-ER with a firing range of up to a thousand kilometers.


KR SKALP-EG under the wing of a Su-24 front-line bomber

It is not difficult to calculate that 18 Polish Su-22M4 and S-22UMZK is a salvo of 36 KP Storm Shadow / SKALP-EG / JASSM-ER, which can overcome almost any air defense system.

UAV-kamikaze


The Ukrainian Armed Forces already have a positive experience of using Soviet jet reconnaissance UAVs Tu-141 "Strizh" as kamikaze UAVs.

Aircraft of the Su-17/Su-22 type, starting with the Su-17M2 modification, received the KN-23 navigation complex, which provides automatic flight along the route, which, in combination with a low-altitude unit, provides automatic flight following the terrain according to radio altimeter data at altitude from 200 meters, theoretically allows you to turn them into kamikaze UAVs. With external fuel tanks (PTB), their range can be about 1,5–2,5 thousand kilometers, depending on the warhead, which, minus the weight of the PTF, can be up to two tons.

Of course, using the Su-17/Su-22 as a kamikaze UAV is not the most rational solution, however, the possibility of using them in this capacity cannot be completely ruled out.

Air defense suppression


The Su-17MZP modification could use the Kh-25MP, X-27PS and Kh-58 anti-radar missiles. Against modern anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) and electronic warfare (EW) systems, these missiles are most likely no longer effective.

However, it can be assumed that American specialists can integrate the modern AGM-17 HARM PRR onto the Su-22/Su-88 aircraft - this problem was previously solved in relation to the Su-27 and MiG-29 aircraft. Su-88/Su-17 aircraft equipped with the ASM-22 HARM missile launcher will also pose a significant threat to ground (surface) air defense systems of the Russian Armed Forces, especially when used in combination with other weapons.


PRR AGM-88 HARM

Detection of radiation from radar stations (radars) of Russian air defense systems can be carried out using an overhead electronic reconnaissance container (RTR).

Air Hunter


For work against airplanes and helicopters of the Russian Air Force, Su-17/Su-22 aircraft are minimally suitable, since they lack both radar and optical/thermal means of detecting/tracking air targets. At the same time, the task of destroying air targets can potentially be solved using suspended containers and corresponding weapons.

For example, to destroy helicopters and low-speed UAVs in the depths of Ukraine and on LBS, the above-mentioned HYDRA NARs, upgraded into guided munitions with laser beam guidance, can be used. In this case, target detection in the thermal range and guidance of HYDRA missiles will be carried out from an suspended container (containers). The cost of operating such an interceptor will be much lower than the twin-engine Su-27 and MiG-29, not to mention Western-made aircraft.


Suspended container "Sniper" US Armed Forces

To increase the effectiveness of the Su-17/Su-22 as an air fighter, they can use a radar in a container version, something similar to the Russian container version of the Spear radar. Of course, all this will not make the Su-17/Su-22 a rival for the Su-35S, but using certain tactics and target designation from long-range radar detection and control aircraft (AWACS) of NATO countries, the Ukrainian Armed Forces can potentially inflict very painful blows on the Russian Armed Forces.

As another option, the use of the Su-17/Su-22 can be considered for hunting AWACS aircraft, when an RTR container will be used to reach the target, after which the strike will be delivered by a pair of long-range air-to-air missiles of the AIM-120D type with an active radar homing head (ARLGSN).

Old but not useless


Of course, the likelihood of the Su-17/Su-22 turning into kamikaze UAVs is small, as a means of combating air targets they will not be very effective, and as air support on LBS they will not last long, but as a means of launching long-range missiles like Storm Shadow / SKALP-EG / JASSM-ER these aircraft can be both dangerous and effective - this is the simplest solution that the Ukrainian Armed Forces can implement with the support of Western countries.

One should not discount the possibility of using them to drop guided gliding bombs JDAM, as well as to hunt radars using electronic reconnaissance containers and anti-radar missiles.

Let's hope that the Ukrainian Su-17/Su-22 pilots want to live longer and follow the example of their comrade, who flew to Russian territory - the frequency for delivery is 149.200 MHz, call sign "Volga".

As we see, even quite outdated combat vehicles can solve many important problems on the battlefield, especially if you approach the solution of the problem creatively and combine time-tested workhorses and modern technical solutions. In conditions of an acute shortage of means of armed struggle in high-intensity conflicts, it is necessary to carefully study the enemy’s experience and use it to solve one’s own problems.

The rapid increase in the cost of the latest weapons does not allow even the richest armies of the world to purchase them in sufficient quantities. It was assumed, and even now it is still assumed, that reducing the cost of combat operations will be achieved through the widespread use of UAVs and other unmanned means of combat operations, but somewhere halfway the topic of UAVs has turned in the wrong direction, as a result of which their cost is constantly growing.

Potentially the situation could be changed by highly specialized combat vehicles that would carry out routine operations such as dropping FAB from UMPC, freeing up expensive multifunctional systems for solving such serious tasks as seizing air superiority over enemy territory.
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  1. +4
    23 November 2023 03: 35
    even the SU-17, even the SU-7b, after modernization will be able to carry the same Storm Shadows as the SU 24... so if they exist, they must be carefully disposed of.
    1. +2
      23 November 2023 07: 53
      Polish Su-22s are understandable. In general, about the T-54/55 and all the other weapons, it reminds me of the Strugatskys with their “Inhabited Island”:
      "And here are our coffins!" - someone in front said loudly and cheerfully.
      “Look what they give us,” said Guy. — Pre-war tanks, imperial junk, tin cans...
      1. +16
        23 November 2023 10: 11
        Quote: Civil
        "Inhabited island"

        Only tasks for the “old people” are always found in the conditions of the Northern Military District. And it would be possible to use the Su-34 for much more important tasks if they retained the MiG-27, Su-17, at least the latest modifications, without wasting expensive resources. The glide bomb doesn't care which platform it glides from.
        1. 0
          3 February 2024 22: 13
          Quote: IL-18
          The glide bomb doesn't care which platform it glides from.


          Yes, with the Pe-2 and IL-2 it’s absolutely beautiful!
          And the cost of the plane is cheap.
    2. +3
      25 November 2023 16: 10
      Theoretically it can. But what is the real state of the devices? They have also been flying in Poland for a long time. Just because they were lifted into the air does not mean that they will be able to carry out combat missions.
  2. +15
    23 November 2023 03: 43
    Of course not F16. But it flies, shoots and bombs. And on a front line with a length of 1 thousand km, Su35s at every 10 km are also not sitting and waiting for them. You just need to warn Konashenkov that there can be no more than 18 of them. So that he doesn’t count 60 downed ones in the next report to the top
    1. +11
      23 November 2023 04: 55
      Konashenkov is an army official. If he stops giving out numbers, he will be fired as unnecessary. But the instinct of self-preservation has not been canceled. So 60 is not the limit yet. laughing
      1. +10
        23 November 2023 08: 12
        Konashenkov is an army official.
        This is a talking head in a general's uniform. I still don’t understand how the information told on camera by a general differs from the same information told by an untrained private. Moreover, in both cases the text is read from a piece of paper. Probably, in his free time from speaking, he develops a strategy for the troops in the Northern Military District.
        1. +4
          23 November 2023 11: 22
          I still don’t understand how the information told on camera by a general differs from the same information told by an untrained private.

          The people have more confidence. Many people subconsciously reason, “Well, a general (minister, deputy, etc., underline as necessary) can’t lie! And even if he can, it won’t be much, there’s no smoke without fire!”:))
          1. +2
            23 November 2023 20: 21
            The people have more confidence.
            If you don’t think about it at all, then of course. But general is a military rank that obliges you to be a professional in the military field. And in what field is Konashenkov a professional? If in the sphere of political work, then we have no ideology by law.
            Many people subconsciously reason: “Well, a general (minister, deputy, etc. - emphasize as necessary) cannot lie!
            After 30 years, it’s time to get used to the fact that one military leader was going to take Grozny with an airborne regiment, another political figure threatened to lie down on the rails, a third swore that there would be no increase in the retirement age...
      2. +1
        23 November 2023 11: 54
        During the Second World War, the same piece of equipment was sometimes knocked out 4 times, 18*4 = 72. More equipment is always “destroyed” than there is, this is normal. As for the infantry, this is debatable; for me, Konashenkov greatly underestimates the losses of the enemy’s infantry; even the Western media sometimes give higher figures than he does.
  3. Des
    +5
    23 November 2023 06: 42
    Why are there so many Air Force pilots in Ukraine? So many planes were shot down. So, are these pilots all back in business?
    1. +1
      23 November 2023 10: 32
      Why are there so many Air Force pilots in Ukraine? So many planes were shot down. So, are these pilots all back in business?


      And there are plenty of them there. There are so many storerooms alone. Yes, and amateurs are retrained.
    2. +3
      23 November 2023 12: 35
      Quote: Des
      Why are there so many Air Force pilots in Ukraine? So many planes were shot down. So, are these pilots all back in business?

      A downed plane does not mean a lost pilot. Especially if they were shot down over their territory. He ejected without consequences, was picked up, doctors examined him, the plane was dragged from the storage base, patched up and forward again, under Russian missiles,
      1. +1
        23 November 2023 13: 01
        Quote: Fitter65
        A downed plane does not mean a lost pilot. Especially if they were shot down over their territory. He ejected without consequences, was picked up, doctors examined him, the plane was dragged from the storage base, patched up and forward again, under Russian missiles,

        did you eject? No ? why write nonsense.
        1. +4
          23 November 2023 15: 48
          Quote: Aerodrome
          did you eject? No ? why write nonsense.

          And you? Ejected?... Personally, I know 5 pilots and navigators who were forced to use the K-36, and only one of them was written off from flight work. And this was due to the fact that a couple of years after the ejection, he got into an accident. So who is talking nonsense here? Of course, if you think that as soon as the PSS officers picked him up, they immediately sent him on a new flight, then oh... Although who knows what the standards are now in the yellow-blue Air Force...
      2. +2
        25 November 2023 16: 12
        Did you eject without consequences?))) Do you know how much G the ejection seat gives? and why do pilots really dislike this method of rescue?
        1. 0
          31 January 2024 14: 38
          “And why don’t pilots like this method of rescue?” I wonder if there is another rescue method that pilots love?
          1. 0
            31 January 2024 18: 40
            Eating and sitting on a forced one is also not the greatest pleasure, but it’s better than a catapult.
  4. +17
    23 November 2023 06: 52
    The Su-17M4 is an excellent aircraft for ground work. The sighting system made it possible to hit ground targets with high accuracy. Our pilots spoke of him with great respect and love.

    In the first half of the 90s, “thanks to” P. Deinekin, supposedly in order to improve flight safety (allegedly it is worse for single-engine aircraft), the domestic IBA was mercilessly destroyed. Su-17M3 and M4, Mig-27D, K and M were thrown into storage and dismantling bases for aircraft. Many planes flew for only 12-14 hours. The technicians cried when they were cut up.

    The photo shows such a base in the Steppe. There are several aviation regiments here.
    1. +8
      23 November 2023 11: 19
      The photo shows such a base in the Steppe. There are several aviation regiments here.


      The airfield there is currently under reconstruction, but there are no more planes. The managers let everything go under the knife.
      1. +7
        23 November 2023 11: 42
        Yes, colleague, I know. And all the DOSs were blown up.
        1. +3
          23 November 2023 11: 52
          Yes, colleague, I know. And all the DOSs were blown up.


          They didn’t blow things up in Mogocha, but it was of no use.

          1. +1
            23 November 2023 13: 37
            There was no explosion in Nerchinsk either, but there is no airfield there either.
    2. +1
      25 November 2023 16: 14
      When was this? Now Su - 7, 17, etc. are an excellent target for air defense, large and unmaneuverable. Even the Su-25 is very difficult.
  5. -4
    23 November 2023 06: 59

    It should be mentioned that another “discovery” of the SVO was reincarnation

    This is a discovery with a minus sign!
    Just look at the advanced armies of the world, but what about the advanced ones!? Former “friends” under the Warsaw Pact took advantage of the moment and exchanged junk for modern NATO weapons!
  6. +10
    23 November 2023 10: 40
    Unfortunately, all these types of outdated aircraft can bite very painfully. We have already washed ourselves in blood for our squat dances, they say, we will trample the Ukro-Reich like two fingers on the asphalt.
    Therefore, all these Su-17s can cause considerable harm.
    Another question is that the top people don’t care about the blood of our guys, they are busy with “great geostrategies”, they imagine themselves as the arbiters of the destinies of the world. And at the same time, their main task is to maintain the gesheft of the oligarchy.
    1. 0
      23 November 2023 12: 30
      Your comment is meaningless a priori. Are there any safe weapons? (well, except for super modern American destroyers, which were later converted into barges and escort vessels) At night, someone will come up with a knife, you won’t laugh and tell what kind of medieval stub this is?
  7. +4
    23 November 2023 11: 32
    So, subject to the modernization of the Su17 and, on the side of good, they would calmly throw the UMPC at the enemy.
    1. -4
      23 November 2023 11: 58
      So, subject to the modernization of the Su17 and, on the side of good, they would calmly throw the UMPC at the enemy.

      Well, taking into account the fact that it took 1 year to get to the control center, imagine how much time it would take to modernize the aircraft?! And even the upmk is not a panacea, but only a consequence of the lack of long-range and accurate MLRS and artillery....
      1. +2
        23 November 2023 12: 45
        The MLRS does not have to be accurate, it was not created for that, the impact effect is more important for the MLRS, the range is of course not bad either, you can hit more interesting targets, but the range is not always a plus for the MLRS, which means that some other parameter will suffer - price or impact effect, different platforms are needed. For accuracy, there are tactical missiles, special shells, drones, and more.
      2. +5
        23 November 2023 14: 10
        And even the upmk is not a panacea, but only a consequence of the lack of long-range and accurate MLRS and artillery....

        I don't agree at all here. What projectile can even replace the OFAB-500? But they’ve already used bigger things. In the first Chechen war, the Tu-22M3 dropped the usual five hundred on the former city committee of Grozny. She broke through 9 floors and rushed into the bomb shelter, where the Wahhabis took refuge. This is beyond the capabilities of even Tornado-S.
        1. -2
          23 November 2023 14: 39
          What kind of projectile can even replace the OFAB-500

          I agree, the shell will not replace it, I specifically went to Wikipedia and looked that the ofab contains 150 kg of explosives. In principle, it’s probably optimal to demolish the entrance of the 5-story building with the Banderaites holed up.
      3. +1
        24 November 2023 11: 43
        I wouldn't say so. We simply come to the conclusion that 100% of bombs and large-caliber MLRS must be adjustable... otherwise you won’t be able to bomb. And in the Su17 AL31(41) you screw it in and it flies in a new way.
  8. -5
    23 November 2023 11: 47
    Local all-scavengers have already found an explanation for this.
  9. +6
    23 November 2023 12: 26
    According to one version, this is a Su-17M3M aircraft, the only aircraft of this type available in Ukraine, used to maintain the flying skills of pilots of the Zaporozhye Aircraft Manufacturing Plant.
    For the author, I personally inform you that even the only Su-17M3M aircraft has never existed and does not exist. The plant produced the Su-17M3 (product S-52), Su-17M3-58-27, a flying laboratory for testing Kh-27PS, Kh-58U missiles. Su-17M3P (S-52P), modified. It was equipped with anti-location weapons Kh-27PS, Kh-58 with Vyuga-17 target designation equipment. Part of the Su-17M3 was converted into service. Su-17M3R reconnaissance aircraft based on the Su-17M3. Export options - Su-22M (product "S-52K", Fitter-J) Export Su-17M3 with the R-29BS-300 engine and avionics from the Su-17M2 (LD "Fon"). Produced from 1978 to 1984. Su-22M3 (product "S-52MK"). Export Su-17M3 with R-29BS-300 engine and original avionics (LDiP “Klen-PS”). Produced in small series in 1982-1983. In the title photo, most likely, the Su-17UM3 (product “S-52UM3”, Fitter-G) is a two-seat combat training version, the avionics of which are unified with the Su-17M3. Serial production began in 1978 and continued until 1990. Although there may be a repainted Polish Su-22UM3/UM3K.
    it could be one of the Su-22M4 or S-22UMZK aircraft (export modifications of the Su-17),
    The export modification of the Su-17 is the Su-17K, delivered to Egypt. And the Su-17M that was delivered to Poland was called Su-20. If the “aftar” really wanted to show off his “knowledge,” then before writing, you need to familiarize yourself a little with what you are writing about. The Su-22M4 (S-54K) is an export modification of the Su-17M4 (S-54), and the Su-22UM3K (S-52UM3K is an export version of the Su-17 UM3). Otherwise, he doesn’t know, but he tells others.
  10. +3
    23 November 2023 13: 00
    For work against airplanes and helicopters of the Russian Air Force, Su-17/Su-22 aircraft are minimally suitable, since they lack both radar and optical/thermal means of detecting/tracking air targets.

    Very good. How, in this case, will it even be used during military operations? To carry anti-radar missiles, he must see the target, but he has nothing to do. Controlled bombs are also not dropped from the wrong direction, i.e. not by eye
    1. +4
      23 November 2023 15: 36
      Quote: garik77
      How, in this case, will it even be used during military operations?
      Don't read Mitrofanov at night. Just look here https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/su17m4.html and as an addition here https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/su17m3.html. And the first Kh-28 anti-radar missiles were used on the Su-17M2, in combat operations on the Su-22 (product S-32M2K)
      On October 27, 1981, Su-22s of the 5th squadron of the Iraqi Air Force, using Kh-28E anti-radar missiles, destroyed at least 6 HIPAR (High-Power Acquisition Radar) radars from Iranian MIM-23 HAWK air defense systems in one day. The Iranians admitted such heavy losses and forced their anti-aircraft gunners to completely reconsider the tactics of using radar.
      End of 1982 - use of Kh-28 missiles. The missiles were successfully used against the HAWK air defense system at a range of 70 km from a Su-22M2 aircraft from an altitude of 7000 m, the speed of the carrier aircraft was 750 km/h. According to Western data, about 100 missiles were delivered to Iraq in total and they were successfully used until 1988.
      Used in combat by the Iraqi Air Force under the name Nissan-28 (see photo) in the Iran-Iraq War. In 1989, under the name Nissan-28, the missile was shown at an exhibition of Iraqi military equipment.
      And considering that the Poles will supply the Su-22M4, the only question is what weapons the gentlemen have left.
      The armament included Kh-25ML missiles, and KAB-500Kr adjustable bombs, which required large angles of pumping the laser beam to illuminate the target due to the significant lag of the bomb from the aircraft at the time of fall, were replaced by KAB-500T with a television seeker.
      Although considering that the gentlemen used them almost until recently..
      .Since 2005, when the initially assigned service life (20 calendar years) of the Su-22 fleet expired, the Polish Air Force, together with industry, extended the service life of single-seat Su-22M4s by 30 years, 3000 flight hours and 3000 landings, and for the Su-22UM3K - 30 years, 3000 flight hours and 4000 landings....The latest repair and service life extension program was formally initiated at WZL-2 in February 2015. The first repaired aircraft with extended service life were returned to the Polish Air Force in September 2015. As part of the program, the aircraft also received a new gray camouflage pattern consisting of two shades of gray on the upper fuselage and wings, while the lower portion was painted light gray. As of October 2016, nine Su-22s have been repaired and transferred to the Polish Air Force.
      That is, Polish M4s are adapted to use NATO weapons.
  11. -2
    23 November 2023 19: 44
    The third generation can quite easily shoot from its own territory or if modified for external target designation by something. Another question is what exact condition these birds are in and how rational it is to revive them and stuff them with something to suit modern conditions.
    As a kamikaze, I don’t think that’s reasonable. The EPR is significant, our air defense has already more or less learned from experience how to deal with large aerodynamic targets. The other side of the issue is in the event of an attempt to deplete our air defense capabilities. But here it is necessary to evaluate the quantities of these birds available to the Ukrainian Armed Forces and approximately their condition. A breakthrough of this kind, moreover, does not seem timely to me at the moment - but if they deliver the F-16, perhaps they will mature..
  12. +1
    23 November 2023 22: 04
    France has our Yak-3 in a museum. The best thing is to shoot down UAVs)
  13. 0
    31 January 2024 08: 21
    After all this, General Konashchenkov can’t believe that fighters are being printed in Ukraine since they don’t run out? The most truthful option in the first days of the Air Force was not completely destroyed as we were told, that is, we destroyed inflatable models, so Konashenkov’s numbers do not agree, most likely Ukraine actually has 200-250 combat-ready aircraft, taking into account Western assistance