Oh, my dear handicraft: the Israelis are raising money for cheap cameras for armored vehicles

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Oh, my dear handicraft: the Israelis are raising money for cheap cameras for armored vehicles

Interesting artisanal metamorphoses are now taking place with Israeli armored vehicles, including those known throughout the world tanks Merkava.

The cars seem to be modern, especially in the latest modifications they are also equipped with active protection and other interesting electronic gizmos. But somehow things didn’t work out between them and the Hamas men - the canopies over the towers were from drones It was necessary to fasten it, then we had to go to great lengths with rubber and soundproofing materials on the sides, in order, most likely, to ensure at least some safety from magnetic mines.



And now, when the zone of active fighting has finally moved deep into the Gaza Strip, the Israelis are faced with the expected problem associated with the great vulnerability of tanks and other equipment against enemy personnel. At close ranges, the “armor,” to put it mildly, is very blind due to large dead zones in the viewed space and the narrow field of view of observation devices and sights. Whereas the militants have at their disposal residential and non-residential buildings, underground tunnels and other communications where they can move and set up ambushes.

The most striking example of the consequences of poor visibility from a tank: a Hamas soldier was able to run up to his full height and plant an explosive device on it

The most striking example of the consequences of poor visibility from a tank: a Hamas soldier was able to run up to his full height and plant an explosive device on it

Of course, the infantry must protect its equipment, but, for various reasons, this does not always happen and is often left without proper support. Which, in fact, is what Hamas soldiers use, sometimes running up to IDF vehicles almost at full height and shooting them from grenade launchers without fear of being killed - videos with such actions have already filled everything news Telegram channels. Moreover, the effect of such attacks is not only media, but also quite practical - Israeli losses are growing.

The military had to get out of this situation on their own, using as a basis the experience of Syrian and Iraqi tank crews during the war with the Islamic State banned in Russia. We are talking about simple CCTV cameras that can be bought at any electronics store for mere pennies.


Examples of homemade installation of surveillance cameras on Israeli armored vehicles

Examples of homemade installation of surveillance cameras on Israeli armored vehicles

They are placed outside on the armor of a tank or any other combat vehicle and connected to a display inside the habitable compartment, thereby providing the necessary visibility in the required projections. Yes, as it is now fashionable to say, it turns out to be a “collective farm”, but the “collective farm” is more or less working. Thanks to it, the chance of detecting armed people scurrying nearby, from whom a grenade launcher could fly in, increases manifold, and losses are correspondingly reduced.

Display with images from four CCTV cameras inside the crew compartment

Display with images from four CCTV cameras inside the crew compartment

It is also noteworthy that in Israel they decided to put this matter on stream, turning the initiative of individual tankers into serial modification of all armored vehicles and using donations from ordinary citizens.

Entrepreneur and managing partner of VerDiesel Group Eran Efrat spoke about this on banned Twitter:

We continue to focus on cameras.

We have 2 suppliers in the country, we have started importing and will continue to do so in order to equip as many tanks and other equipment as possible. If all goes well, we will be installing many hundreds of kits, and maybe more, in the coming weeks.

We are raising money for this. While the lion's share will come from donors (about $250), we want to raise the amount to pay Israeli suppliers (about 100 shekels in total).

If anyone has a link to companies that are contributing, I'd be happy for them to contact me.

You're pouring so much money into ineffective donations that maybe we could use the money for something else important.

It saves lives and has been a game changer over the past few weeks. Because of this, the demands on armored units are piling up more and more, and we want to help everyone.

By the way, I’ll rest when everyone in the combat zone has 360-degree cameras, like a Mercedes.

Original tweet by Eran Efrat

Original tweet by Eran Efrat

This, of course, begs a fair question.

Israel has been at war with its neighbors for a long time and has accumulated sufficient combat experience, and this is not the first time that a ground operation has been carried out against Hamas. Why, in this case, were you not concerned about solving the problem earlier? After all, if the same Drones - this is a relatively new threat, then infantry has been the scourge of armored vehicles almost from the very moment of its appearance.

But this matter is not so simple. For example, there are all-round cameras on the Namer heavy armored personnel carriers, and on tanks the issue of poor visibility should have been fully resolved as part of the modernization of the Merkav to the Merkava Barak standard. There, let us remind you, the IronVision system is used, which makes the armor “transparent” using the commander’s panoramic sight and a set of sensors from the outside, displaying the image directly on the display mounted on the tank commander’s helmet.

But by the beginning of current events, literally only a few units of modernized tanks had been produced, and the scope of hostilities turned out to be so large-scale that the Israelis began to rake out of their bins everything that could be useful in battle. These are more ancient modifications of tanks, and old armored personnel carriers, and even bulldozers, which were not equipped with the notorious electronic surveillance devices at all.

So I had to take up natural handicrafts in order to somehow compensate for this omission. Which once again proves: even with modern weapon, you must be prepared for the fact that the realities of combat will force you to resort to the most primitive solutions for survival on the battlefield.
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  1. +4
    18 November 2023 04: 57
    Apparently this is a trend in all countries now. Don't take money from the military budget, but collect it from donations...
    1. +9
      18 November 2023 05: 32
      Interesting movie!
      About donations - this is a global trend... And okay.

      But it would be nice for our tank crews to think about such cameras. The Israelis, without any undue pride, based on their experience of monitoring the NVO, put up visors, since the solution turned out to be effective.
      Visibility in a tank can be achieved cheaply and conveniently, so it’s time to experiment and use best practices, maybe this will save the lives of our guys too!
      1. +3
        18 November 2023 08: 04
        Surveillance cameras are already installed as standard on new T90m. The driver has the opportunity to look around.
        1. -2
          18 November 2023 15: 08
          Where can I find photos of them?
    2. +4
      18 November 2023 05: 57
      Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
      Apparently this is a trend in all countries

      It’s just that all this once again proves that the generals, like the admirals, were not exactly preparing for that war
      1. AUL
        -2
        18 November 2023 09: 22
        The author of the note seems to condemn the Israelis for these homemade products. But, since this “collective farm” helps save the lives of soldiers, then why not? Our tank crews would also benefit from such “amateur activities.”
        1. 0
          18 November 2023 21: 01
          So what if cameras appear? I’ll make a reservation right away that I myself am in favor of installing cameras. The point is completely different. Even if you manage to deploy the turret, it is not a fact that it will work in urban conditions; the rotation speed and negative vertical guidance angle may not be enough. You need a DBM with a machine gun on the turret or even a separate machine gun mount for the driver mechanic. It is not enough to detect a threat; it is not a fact that this is easy to do with ordinary video cameras; the threat must be repelled in time.
          When upgrading the same BMP-1, it is not enough to install a module with a 30-mm automatic cannon. The gun module must be placed higher and then additional height will appear and it will be possible to install an additional machine gun to the commander’s or driver’s mechanic’s hatch.
    3. 0
      14 December 2023 15: 16
      It was always like this; Goebbels also collected warm clothes for Hitler’s army, which was freezing near Moscow.
    4. 0
      14 December 2023 15: 16
      It was always like this; Goebbels also collected warm clothes for Hitler’s army, which was freezing near Moscow.
    5. 0
      21 January 2024 17: 19
      The army would love to be supported by taxes. That is, from forced “donations”. If you need more money, you can raise taxes. But why, if, just ask, they will carry it themselves.
  2. +1
    18 November 2023 05: 26
    I also saw nets from ordinary beds on military equipment.
    1. +3
      18 November 2023 06: 11
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      I also saw nets from ordinary beds on military equipment

      This is where it all began wink
    2. +4
      18 November 2023 15: 09
      They were called beds because of their similarity; in fact, they were originally anti-cumulative screens
  3. +2
    18 November 2023 05: 28
    The most striking example of the consequences of poor visibility from a tank: a Hamas soldier was able to run up to his full height and plant an explosive device on it
    And so it was possible? feel During the Second World War, the Germans also dropped magnetic mines on our tanks. request
    1. +2
      18 November 2023 06: 23
      Magnetic mines?? Bucket of kerosene!! True, there were problems with the KV, it has a machine gun in the back of the turret
      1. +2
        18 November 2023 08: 33
        A hand-held cumulative anti-tank grenade, which everyone calls a mine. Attached with three magnets. For use in an open field it required steel balls, which is why it didn’t catch on. At the beginning of the war, the Germans were afraid of such mines and coated their tanks with Zimmerit. Magnetic anti-tank grenades never appeared, incl. The only benefit of the coating was that the soles did not slip.
        By the way, I decided to suggest coating the merkav with Zimmerit in order to test the old German developments in practice, but then I realized that they did not have black ice.
        1. +1
          18 November 2023 11: 19
          The British went even further during World War II. We made a sticky mine to put on tanks. True, it was not entirely successful and was not adopted for service.
          1. 0
            18 November 2023 16: 07
            Oooh... After Dunkirk and before the United States got involved in the war, they came up with something like this on their island against German tanks... the sticky mine is simply the pinnacle of engineering.
  4. +7
    18 November 2023 05: 32
    Just for comparison, the Jews collect for surveillance cameras, non-standard ones in general, but we collect for DYNAMIC PROTECTION UNITS, for tanks that “have everything”!!!
    1. 0
      18 November 2023 05: 50
      To be fair, it is necessary to compare both the scale and duration of conflicts.
      1. +4
        18 November 2023 15: 34
        Quote: VicktorVR
        To be fair, it is necessary to compare both the scale and duration of conflicts.

        Dear Victor, we are not talking about replacing knocked out blocks at all, we are talking about installation on “bald” T-72s, and not from storage, but “bald” in parts!
    2. 0
      21 January 2024 17: 24
      who "have everything"!

      So what? But what about the children and residents of budget rehabilitation centers who weave masks? networks? They buy these cheap webcams because they didn’t have time to install the expensive ones, and we don’t have enough machines for weaving nets.
      Against this background, the author’s apparent malice in the article looks inappropriate.
  5. +7
    18 November 2023 07: 21
    It’s so simple, designers can come up with a lot of useful things, but the question always comes down to money, well, sometimes, technology. No designer will install webcams for 1,5 bucks; he will take certified ones for military purposes. Plus, they need to be protected, otherwise any burst from a machine gun or shrapnel will demolish all this wealth. And here the question is whether they will be able to convince officials of the need for such “excesses.”
    Well, a real war puts everything in its place.
    1. 0
      18 November 2023 13: 01
      Quote: U. Cheny
      No designer will install webcams for 1,5 bucks, he will take certified ones for military purposes
      If he is allowed to use cameras for 1.5 bucks, he will hang it with pleasure. Yes, the military will also supply it, because difficult conditions are a reality, but the reality is rare, but bullets on the LBS are common.
      1. +6
        18 November 2023 14: 09
        Quote: bk0010
        If he is allowed to use cameras for 1.5 bucks, then

        In the tank there will simply be a box with a hundred of these spare cameras for the price of one cool one, and at the slightest lull the broken ones will be exchanged for whole ones. But to destroy 20 - 30 cameras on each tank with bullets is a long time.
        I note that no one is embarrassed by replacing the fuel filter in a car, or replacing studs whenever the cylinder head is unscrewed. And everyone has disposable lighters.
        1. 0
          19 November 2023 22: 37
          You don’t know the military at all and the specifics of production at defense factories
    2. 0
      18 November 2023 21: 05
      The designer must at least provide mounts and a method of communication with these cameras, as well as mounts for explosive reactive armor and grilles.
  6. +1
    18 November 2023 08: 59
    Where did the virtual reality helmets from Merkava tanks go? It was immediately advertised that the crew members could see everything around them
    1. +3
      18 November 2023 14: 50
      This is from Barak, the next generation of MBT.
  7. +2
    18 November 2023 09: 19
    You can never take everything into account; you often have to make it up on the fly, and this is progress.
  8. +3
    18 November 2023 09: 35
    Logical.
    Everyone was preparing for the “last war,” and then new affordable electronics and new tactics arrived.
    An acquaintance equipped his house with mini-cameras and microphones, so that from work.....
    chase the cat from prohibited places....
  9. +2
    18 November 2023 12: 58
    This has been suggested here for a long time! Just not 4 cameras per tank, but 15-20 unevenly distributed, so that knocked out cameras do not lead to blindness from one direction
    1. +1
      18 November 2023 14: 54
      I also wrote about this. What is the problem with organizing transparent armor? The only thing is that the cameras still need to be hidden in iron boxes so that they don’t get cut by shrapnel or a stray bullet. And it would be desirable to bring this whole thing to VR glasses, I also don’t see any science fiction, operators of copters and FPV drones have been using them for a long time.
      1. 0
        19 November 2023 22: 40
        Timur_kz, transparent iron has not yet been invented. Choose: review vs camera protection.
      2. 0
        19 November 2023 22: 41
        Timur_kz, transparent iron has not yet been invented. Choose: review vs camera protection.
  10. +1
    18 November 2023 13: 04
    He who laughs last laughs
  11. +3
    18 November 2023 14: 27
    The author's snobbery and arrogance results in the death of soldiers in the Northern Military District. We don’t even need to collect money, at least you can eat it here. It is enough to spend 5 lyams from the reserves of the Central Bank (not lards, but lyams) in China and 100 cameras can be installed on every km of the front.
    But Nabiulina won’t give money, snickering designers won’t accept a penny order, and the civil service is incapable of organizing the production of anything.
    .
    Mobilize employees of video surveillance, security, and photo and video recording companies. To avoid the front line, they will do everything for you from their own reserves and will serve you. Thousands of road cameras alone can be removed. Just don’t forget to pay double and triple for everything so that the process doesn’t stop.
    .
    And if someone takes the initiative, without a royal decision, then all three of the bosses listed above will consider it an attempt on THEIR money.
    1. 0
      18 November 2023 14: 56
      Eh, my dear, this way you can get an advantage over the enemy, but they don’t need it...
  12. +2
    18 November 2023 16: 21
    If 57 countries led by the USA and NATO fought against Israel, then Israel would not last even one hour! And Russia is becoming stronger and winning every day! And some Israeli idiots are scaring Russia with Israel! If Russia gets angry, then Israel will disappear!
    1. -3
      18 November 2023 19: 19
      If 57 countries led by the USA and NATO fought against Israel, then Israel would not last even one hour!


      I agree with you on 100%.
      Only among the Jews there are no such “brilliant strategists” to be the first to launch a major military operation against an entire military bloc of 30 countries and without a single ally.
      1. +1
        18 November 2023 19: 31
        Quote from: dump22
        Only among Jews there are no such “brilliant strategists”

        Well, the Jews have simpler tasks...

        Quote from: dump22
        without a single ally

        Sure? Are you giving me a tooth? wink laughing
        1. -2
          18 November 2023 21: 26
          Well, the Jews have simpler tasks...


          Now, undoubtedly, yes.
          And in 1967 they fought against them immediately three countries and each of them is larger than Israel.

          Sure? Are you giving me a tooth?


          I'm not 100% sure of anything.
          But Russia doesn’t seem to have an ally closer to Dad, but I hope you know his current position.

          https://www.belarus.kp.ru/online/news/5457372/
          17 September 2023
          Lukashenko noted that Belarus does not draw plans to interfere in the lives of neighboring countries and wishes them only goodness, happiness and peace.
          1. +3
            18 November 2023 21: 33
            Quote from: dump22
            Now definitely yes

            Thank you Yes

            Quote from: dump22
            Russia doesn’t seem to have an ally closer to Dad, but I hope you know his current position

            Well, in this case, it doesn’t matter who says and demonstrates what. Actions are important, not words. And, looking at this criterion, there are still allies, and quite a few.
      2. +1
        18 November 2023 21: 15
        You would like to see a repeat of the 1941 scenario. This is so that Russia misses the blow on Donbass and Crimea and finds itself in a situation many times worse than it is now. Did you really want this?
  13. +2
    19 November 2023 00: 18
    What's the point of installing a camera on the stern? Unless you see an enemy with a magnetic mine and escape from the tank in time. There is still no machine gun at the stern, so it is still impossible to repel the attack. So abandoning the tank and running away is the only option. And judging by the small number of dead tank crews, the Israelis are doing just that. Then it would be better to install catapults for tankers in Merkavas. I saw an enemy with a mine and, pressing the button, remained safe and sound.
    1. 0
      21 January 2024 17: 29
      see an enemy with a magnetic mine and

      give gas. Either you crush the “hero”, or you drive away and attack him with a ZPU
  14. 0
    28 December 2023 13: 08
    What about our cameras, would it be better to have night vision and far-sightedness?
    1. 0
      22 January 2024 14: 40
      All this chatter about rear view cameras on tanks from people who don’t drive cars. I have a rear view camera installed from the factory, but the camera gets covered in mud or snow within half an hour of driving. In exceptional weather and clear roads, half a day is visible through the camera. And if the tank has tracks and dust, then there is a rear view camera on the tank, then this topic is only for armchair experts.
      1. 0
        22 January 2024 15: 18
        Well, this is you with a fish eye, and even then, in an emergency, it’s just the thing.
        I have an idea
  15. 0
    18 January 2024 12: 22
    I’m wondering how they run the power and video signal cables, are they really drilling into the armor? It's hard to believe that there are standard holes that are not used.

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