F-35: another scandal about capabilities

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F-35: another scandal about capabilities

Here we go again, right? Again “thirty-five” and again a scandal. Well, it’s not a scandal at all, just a scandal, but the public is outraged and demands. What the public demands is not entirely clear, but what the shouting is about is around some secret report on the results of comparative missions of the F-35 and A-10, which the American military, no matter what you do with it, does not want to publish.

But in general there is a certain logic in this: secret means, as it were, not for everyone.



But conversely, here lies another question: why is everything so secret? Is it because the F-35 suddenly turned out to be a worthless aircraft?

In general, Americans' passions are running high. Especially on specially designated information platforms. In general, they have this thing, ever since the Roswell UFO, that “The state is hiding something from us”. Well, if there is such confidence, then those who pay taxes in the USA have the right...

A secret report detailing the official competition between the F-35 Lightning II and A-10 Warthog was released five years after the competition took place. After forcing the Pentagon to release it through a Freedom of Information Act request, the published portion of the report was heavily censored. However, even when formatted, the report does not portray the F-35, long touted as a replacement for the A-10, as a clear winner.

In an exclusive interview, the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) released a redacted copy of the report it received from the Air Force. The report details a "takeoff" that pitted the F-35 and A-10 against each other in identical missions to determine which aircraft was better at the traditional A-10 roles.

According to POGO, she requested a copy of the report in April 2022, but the request was ignored. Subsequent lawsuits forced the Air Force to release a copy of the classified report.

The report was prepared by the Pentagon's Director of Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E), the internal watchdog agency that oversees the development of new equipment for the Defense Department. According to POGO, although the tests were carried out in 2018, the report itself was not written until 2022 - a very long time for the preparation of a 48-page report.

Considering the difficulties POGO had in trying to obtain information, even going to court, POGO claims that “the results apparently were not what the Air Force management expected because they fought to completely hide them for many years.”

Well, in general – nothing like that, right? Everything is quite reasonable and logical. Why bring into the light of day and general discussion something that can quietly lie in a dark box for several years until everything calms down?

Replacing sewed with soap



When the F-35 was conceived and put into production in the late 1990s, the US Air Force sold a version of it, the F-35A, as an aircraft that could simultaneously replace the F-16 Fighting Falcon multirole fighter and the A-10 attack aircraft. Warthog" Thunderbolt. Replacing two aircraft with one, the service said, would simplify maintenance, reduce costs and generally replace the aging A-10 with a new aircraft.


This is a logical, legal, normal approach. Simplification of maintenance, reduction of costs - everything is great, if not for one BUT.

It would be understandable if the F-35, as a fighter-bomber, replaced the almost pure F-16 fighter and, say, the pure A-10 bomber. The output is a standard universal aircraft, a fighter-bomber, of which there are plenty in the world.

But the catch is that the A-10 is not a bomber.


This is a pure attack aircraft, a demon of the front line, which has only one analogue in the world - our Su-25. The rest, as they say, is from the devil, all these handicraft modifications of outdated aircraft, they can not be counted. And we have already said more than once in our materials that it is too early to condemn the “old guys” A-10 and Su-25. Yes, we have Su-34. Simply a gorgeous aircraft, armored even better than the Su-25, carrying 2-4 times more weapons, and having great capabilities in terms of the effectiveness of using these weapons. As they say, higher, further, more and more precisely.

And what? And the Su-25 went into the shadows? Have you retired? Sold to African countries? Yes of course. As he flew, so he flies. Once again it is rejuvenated to the CM3 version, and as soon as the leading edge has been ironed, it continues to do so.


Causes? We won’t go into detail, they are on the surface, and in the case of the F-35 and A-10 everything is absolutely the same as with the Su-34/Su-25 pair. The bomber is not a replacement for the attack aircraft. And there’s nothing to be done about it; the difference in application is too fundamentally big.

The US Air Force has been trying to get rid of the A-10 Warthog for a long time, dating back to the end of the 1991 Gulf War, arguing that it could no longer survive against a decent air defense system. The powerful A-10 lobby in Congress, as well as the support of the military, veterans and the public, allowed the aircraft to operate much longer than originally intended.

Today, 281 examples of the A-10 are still in service with the Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard. The average (!!!) age of aircraft is 41 years. The Air Force currently plans to completely retire the aircraft by 2028 if all goes as planned.


What are “planned plans”? And this is a replacement for the A-10 when working at the forefront. Moreover, the replacement is adequate, capable of not just mixing earth with concrete, but doing it efficiently in order to kill all the strangers and leave our own intact. And here the A-10 has practically no competitors! Helicopters, but they have their weaknesses. There was only one hope for the F-35...

But American (and other) critics have repeatedly stated that the F-35 is a poor replacement for the A-10. The F-35 is faster, making it difficult for the pilot to see the battlefield below, carries less ammunition, is not armored to evade anti-aircraft fire, and does not have a beastly gun like the A-30's 8mm GAU-10/A Gatling gun .


That is, rushing into battle like that, blowing to pieces the bad guys who are defeating the good ones, and not being afraid of what these bad guys have, is not a very easy task for the F-35. He’s good, he’s not afraid of many things, he’s able to shrug off missiles, but a basic ZSU-23-2 for the F-35 will hurt. Very painful. We simply remain silent about something like “Shilka”. This is death. And from an altitude of 8 meters, I’m afraid the pilot won’t be able to tell where anyone is below.

In the mid-2010s, the Pentagon authorized a competition between the two aircraft to determine the F-35's suitability for the A-10 role, and testing was conducted in 2018.

During the tests, the two types of aircraft collided with each other in three areas:
- close air support (CAS) - attacking enemy ground forces to support friendly ground forces;
- forward air traffic controller - performing the function of flight coordinator for other direct aircraft aviation support;
- Combat Search and Rescue (CSAR) - escorting other Air Force assets, such as helicopters and CV-22 Ospreys, to rescue pilots behind enemy lines.

The tests were conducted in low- and medium-threat air defense environments, where the aircraft faced light anti-aircraft guns and, in the worst case, MANPADS missiles. The testing did not include "high threat" missions that would involve enemy fighters and advanced air defenses because the service said the A-10 was "not designed" to operate in such environments. In such conditions, as follows from the report, the F-35 is the only aircraft that is generally capable of fighting in such conditions.


In general, the tests turned out so-so and could not reflect the true state of affairs, since the conditions were clearly made for the A-10. And the F-35s were clearly not playing on their “home field”, plus they could not demonstrate their strengths. Or (this also shouldn’t be discounted) this arrangement was made deliberately, but it’s hard to say what benefit this gave to the F-35.

As a result, the test results were mostly classified, and those that were published were edited. Entire pages were erased from the report, which, let’s face it, didn’t contain many of them anyway. In addition, DOT&E recommendations are completely excluded. It is virtually impossible to gain insight into the report's findings from the published unclassified version.

The most useful information in the actual meat of the report is that A-10 and F-35 pilots can work together.

“F-35A and A-10C pilots often commented during debriefing on the synergies that could arise if A-10C formations operated with F-35A escorts during contested CSAR missions. This will combine the strengths of both platforms while mitigating their limitations to increase the likelihood of mission success,” the report said.

Why do they like working together? This has also been removed. It is difficult to judge the report itself, since there is practically nothing useful in it and there is no information about which aircraft performed better in their tasks. But the report gives the impression that the F-35 performed worse than expected due to the Air Force's apparent reluctance to declassify it.

One question that comes to mind is: what if the A-10 had done better?


Testing has been limited to low- and medium-threat environments such as Iraq and Afghanistan, conflicts from which the United States withdrew some time ago. The US is also trying to stay away from such conflicts for the foreseeable future, preparing for a large-scale war. It seems that now it is not with world terrorism, but with China and Russia.

But this is no longer a low threat environment, is it? This is at least average if at sea and high if on land. And a walk like Iraq won’t work. How much A-10s are needed in such conflicts is another question. BUT in general, the USA can retain a certain number of Warthogs just for the “Just in Case” situation, and use them as needed, in secondary theaters, freeing up modern aircraft if necessary.

The concept “The stock doesn’t stretch your pocket.”


However, the United States cannot choose its wars and enemies, at least temporarily. Washington ended the war in Iraq but was forced to return when the Islamic State took over much of the country. The war against the Islamic State, which requires low loitering speeds, precision-guided munitions and the ability to engage targets with a large caliber weapon in the face of minimal opposition, is exactly the kind of air environment in which the A-10 excels.

Other conflicts may arise that are entirely appropriate for the A-10. It would be wise to maintain the existing stock of 281 A-10 aircraft as an emergency reserve, especially as the situation in the Middle East heats up again.

What about the F-35?


Nothing. It will be produced at the same pace, because if you look at the timeline, in the 20 years that have passed since the start of work on the F-35, the situation in the world of military aviation has somehow changed very much. And, on the one hand, ultra-modern stealth fighters and the same bombers are one thing, and ancient attack aircraft are another, but the tactical meaning is that both the first, and the second, and the third have their niches, in which each individual type of aircraft will have clear advantages over others.

Therefore, it is very difficult, especially in conditions of secrecy, to say something about how ready the F-35 is to replace the A-10 and whether the Air Force should begin decommissioning the A-10 and replacing it with the F-35? All the report says is that the pilots of both aircraft would prefer to work together rather than alone. Perhaps this is the answer that would suit both sides, meaning the pilots. But in the USA it is not the pilots who decide, but the lobbyists. Because the final stories can be anything, and depends far from those who sit in the cockpits of fighters and attack aircraft.

As for the openness of information and respect for the rights to it in relation to American taxpayers, everything is simple. Do they even need to know this information? After all, if the broad masses find out, we will know too. Although we, those who are just planning to be sighted, would love to know all the intimate details of the coolness tests of American aircraft. So yes, we are for complete openness of information.
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  1. +1
    15 November 2023 05: 09
    I'm a pure techie. Those. brought up on good classical literature. This is how I like to read Skomorokhov. Even when I don’t agree with everything. It has logic and meaning.
    1. +20
      15 November 2023 08: 35
      Quote: My address
      I'm a pure techie. Those. brought up on good classical literature. This is how I like to read Skomorokhov. Even when I don’t agree with everything. It has logic and meaning.

      Excuse me, “pure techie,” but Skomorokhov is a piece of paper, a lot of text, zero meaning. No matter how many times I read his hits, I can’t get through them in one sitting. Personally, I don’t understand how you can divert the facts like that and draw the wrong conclusions!? This is the conclusion from the very beginning. The US Air Force tried to compare green and square. It’s even a no brainer that the F-35 will not perform the functions of an attack aircraft, even in low-intensity conflicts. No armor, no NAR, and a lot of other things! I will say more, based on the experience of the SVO and the A-10 will not last long, such a carcass was created for the 80s. Now air defense has stepped beyond another milestone. In the 80s, the air defense border with an average radius was 25-45 km, now up to 100 km. But this elephant cannot perform pirouettes like the SU-25, no big deal. Therefore, Skomorokhov is a productive creator, but alas.
      1. +2
        15 November 2023 10: 35
        Attacking the front line is now carried out more by FPV drones.
      2. 0
        15 November 2023 11: 03
        Desert Storm would disagree.
        1. +3
          15 November 2023 11: 57
          ""Desert Storm"" Has the S-125, not to mention the S-300? ))) Here it is..)
          1. 0
            15 November 2023 15: 36
            Aviation, SEAD and electronic warfare have not stood still since then. The clear superiority of air defense has so far been demonstrated only over Ukrainian and Russian aviation, but NATO is an adversary of a completely different category.
            1. +8
              15 November 2023 16: 38
              NATO aviation and air defense are in no way fundamentally superior to ours - as separate elements. But they are probably qualitatively superior in organization and interaction. But they demonstrated this (so far) against frankly weak opponents.
              And in this regard, the F-35 is probably not at all an outstanding one-on-one aircraft, but in the complex, as a network-centric player, it should be very dangerous. Therefore, in my opinion, in modern conditions there is little point in comparing individual types of military equipment.
              And regarding organization and management: the enemy is trying some of his methods through Ukraine, we are learning to neutralize them. This conflict is a good lesson for many parties.
              1. -5
                15 November 2023 17: 56
                Is Iraq a frankly weak adversary? His army seemed to be no less than our modern one.
                They are even very superior, compare raids, for example. Or the number of aircraft and various air-to-ground missiles. Or the number of 5th generation in service.
                1. +2
                  16 November 2023 14: 09
                  Tell me, do you personally remember the times of the “Storm”?
                  Did Saddam's guard fight or were they simply bought?
            2. +1
              15 November 2023 16: 39
              NATO aviation and air defense are in no way fundamentally superior to ours - as separate elements. But they are probably qualitatively superior in organization and interaction. But they demonstrated this (so far) against frankly weak opponents.
              And in this regard, the F-35 is probably not at all an outstanding one-on-one aircraft, but in the complex, as a network-centric player, it should be very dangerous. Therefore, in my opinion, in modern conditions there is little point in comparing individual types of military equipment.
              And regarding organization and management: the enemy is trying some of his methods through Ukraine, we are learning to neutralize them. This conflict is a good lesson for many parties.
            3. +3
              15 November 2023 17: 24
              Quote: Kmon
              The clear superiority of air defense has so far been demonstrated only over Ukrainian and Russian aviation, but NATO is an adversary of a completely different category.

              NATO aircraft have exactly the same problems when working over the forward edge. In the same "Desert Storm", even after the destruction of Iraq's air defense system was played out like clockwork, the Yankees experienced great problems when working on the MV due to MANPADS and MZA.
              So a classic attack, if the enemy has at least the basics of military air defense, is a one-way road.
              Actually, our Air Force realized this back in Afghanistan, when, after the mass appearance of MANPADS among the spirits, the tactics of attack aircraft changed from “hovering over the battlefield and numerous approaches to the target at the request of the infantry” to “duty in a safe zone or departure upon request, a couple of approaches to the target - and home." That is, SHA began to act like IBA.
      3. +5
        15 November 2023 11: 08
        Quote: letinant
        The US Air Force tried to compare green and square. It’s even a no brainer that the F-35 will not perform the functions of an attack aircraft, even in low-intensity conflicts. No armor, no NAR, and a lot of other things!

        Not everything is so simple. ©
        The US Air Force is creakingly trying to get rid of the concept small wars, in which the enemy is all sorts of Zusuls with virtually no air defense. Yes, against them brrrt ideal - a cheap platform capable of operating in the fire zone of small arms and rare MZA. It’s not like the expensive “Penguin” that drops a Rolls-Royce on it to destroy a rusty Toyota. smile

        But the world is changing, and the United States again has full-fledged armies among its opponents. Which have army air defense. And here the classic attack aircraft is out of work. Because in the presence of army air defense, any attempts by NPT in the style of a classic BShU with cast iron at enemy positions are met with a “birch forest” of traces from MANPADS missiles and fire from infantry command posts and automatic guns. As a result, the attack aircraft can only operate the NAR from a pitched position or launch the missile beyond the effective range of the front-line air defense systems.
        It turns out that for the NPP, in a conflict with the army, and not bandit formations, a URO/UAB carrier with a good missile launcher, a wide range of combat loads, working as part of the RUK is needed. At the same time, armor is no longer so important - it still cannot protect the wearer. That is, an attack aircraft for wars of even medium intensity degenerates into... that's right - a fighter-bomber.
        1. +1
          15 November 2023 13: 24
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: letinant
          The US Air Force tried to compare green and square. It’s even a no brainer that the F-35 will not perform the functions of an attack aircraft, even in low-intensity conflicts. No armor, no NAR, and a lot of other things!

          Not everything is so simple. ©
          The US Air Force is creakingly trying to get rid of the concept small wars, in which the enemy is all sorts of Zusuls with virtually no air defense. Yes, against them brrrt ideal - a cheap platform capable of operating in the fire zone of small arms and rare MZA. It’s not like the expensive “Penguin” that drops a Rolls-Royce on it to destroy a rusty Toyota. smile

          But the world is changing, and the United States again has full-fledged armies among its opponents. Which have army air defense. And here the classic attack aircraft is out of work. Because in the presence of army air defense, any attempts by NPT in the style of a classic BShU with cast iron at enemy positions are met with a “birch forest” of traces from MANPADS missiles and fire from infantry command posts and automatic guns. As a result, the attack aircraft can only operate the NAR from a pitched position or launch the missile beyond the effective range of the front-line air defense systems.
          It turns out that for the NPP, in a conflict with the army, and not bandit formations, a URO/UAB carrier with a good missile launcher, a wide range of combat loads, working as part of the RUK is needed. At the same time, armor is no longer so important - it still cannot protect the wearer. That is, an attack aircraft for wars of even medium intensity degenerates into... that's right - a fighter-bomber.

          Well, as I understand it, the SVO experience is not suitable for you? In addition, the concept of a stormtrooper is changing all the time. Look at the history of the creation of this class of aircraft. Initially "Farman", "R-5", etc. They turned the skewers, the result was IL-2, IL-10. Then Khrushchev, with his: “butter instead of guns.” They screwed up this class of airplanes. They began to use whistles, SU-7, SU-17, and out of desperation they began to use MIG-21 and MIG-17. But in the mid-70s they reached out to the Ministry of Aviation and cracked the SU-25. And even now men walk behind the strip, hugging the ground and putting what is needed and where it is needed, if you don’t know this, this does not mean that it is not there.
          1. +7
            15 November 2023 14: 01
            Quote: letinant
            Well, as I understand it, the SVO experience is not suitable for you?

            Are you talking about turning the Su-25 into a flying MLRS that fires NARs from a nose-up position - just to avoid entering the front-line air defense fire zone? wink
            The experience of the SVO just confirms the concept “the best attack aircraft is an IS with URO/UAB.” Even army aviation switched to working “from afar” - either the same NARs from a pitching position, or ATGMs from several kilometers away.
            Quote: letinant
            But in the mid-70s they reached out to the Ministry of Aviation and cracked the SU-25.

            Yeah... for smoking zusuls.
            Because already in the early 80s, when modeling the use of the Su-25 on the ETVD, it turned out that it was useless against a normal army, since it simply could not reach the range of use of airborne weapons. And they had to put a full-fledged guided missile system into it, giving birth to the Su-25T and Su-39.
            Quote: letinant
            And even now men walk behind the strip, hugging the ground and putting what is needed and where it is needed, if you don’t know this, this does not mean that it is not there.

            They use the Su-25 simply because there is still no replacement for it. We still have the Mi-24P flying - not because the machine meets current requirements, but because, due to the small production of new machines, they simply did not have time to replace it.
            1. -2
              15 November 2023 23: 38
              Are you talking about turning the Su-25 into a flying MLRS that fires NARs from a nose-up position - just to avoid entering the front-line air defense fire zone?

              I repeat, if you don’t know, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
              Because already in the early 80s, when modeling the use of the Su-25 on the ETVD, it turned out that it was useless against a normal army, since it simply could not reach the range of use of airborne weapons. And they had to put a full-fledged guided missile system into it, giving birth to the Su-25T and Su-39.

              Initially, the concept of an attack aircraft implies the destruction of targets of any class, and, accordingly, the use of missile launchers. I conclude that you do not know the history and use of aircraft and the attack aircraft class.
              They use the Su-25 simply because there is still no replacement for it. We still have the Mi-24P flying - not because the machine meets current requirements, but because, due to the small production of new machines, they simply did not have time to replace it.

              What do you want to replace the SU-25 with, may I ask? And I’m also curious, why didn’t you like the MI-24P?
            2. +1
              19 February 2024 16: 33
              If they weren’t playing a farce, I don’t see here. This is about the AWKS over Poland, which is essentially part of the air defense of Ukraine, then the issue of using the Air Force would be different. As time has shown, the classics of military art have superiority over the tactics of dispersing a herd of sheep by plane for 80 Lyams of greenery.
        2. +2
          16 November 2023 14: 12
          Not the most weighty of arguments, perhaps, but the history of aviation shows that ersatz attack aircraft are always worse than specialized machines
      4. +1
        15 November 2023 12: 51
        Quote: letinant
        Excuse me, “pure techie,” but Skomorokhov is a piece of paper, a lot of text, zero meaning. No matter how many times I read his hits, I can’t get through them in one sitting. Personally, I don’t understand how you can divert the facts like that and draw the wrong conclusions!? This is the conclusion from the very beginning. The US Air Force tried to compare green and square. It’s even a no brainer that the F-35 will not perform the functions of an attack aircraft, even in low-intensity conflicts. No armor, no NAR, and a lot of other things! I will say more, based on the experience of the SVO and the A-10 will not last long, such a carcass was created for the 80s. Now air defense has stepped beyond another milestone. In the 80s, the air defense border with an average radius was 25-45 km, now up to 100 km. But this elephant cannot perform pirouettes like the SU-25, no big deal. Therefore, Skomorokhov is a productive creator, but alas.

        The F-35 is not suitable for direct support of troops, the A-10C will not last long. So what is the conclusion? What will replace it with drones in large numbers?
        1. +1
          15 November 2023 13: 34
          The F-35 is not suitable for direct support of troops, the A-10C will not last long. So what is the conclusion? What will replace it with drones in large numbers?

          You are a strange person. You are considering my text separately from the article, although we are discussing it and the author. So you signed up "Lt. Air Force Reserve". I dare to suggest that such a low rank can be reserved for either the “jacket” or the “airman”. Look at the concepts of modern aviation, there are already such books on sale, even a couple of logical ones. As for unmanned aircraft, no. Unmanned aircraft are vulnerable; it will take some time to learn how to counter this type of aircraft. But now, the UAV’s finest hour.
      5. 0
        16 November 2023 01: 19
        He performs wonderful pirouettes, that’s not his problem, and pirouettes now are just so-so defense. Its main problem is that it is built around a cannon the size of a car, and a cannon, although a powerful weapon, has a short range of action: in a modern theater of operations it’s the same as a pistol - just shoot yourself. The SU-25 is more balanced here due to a variety of missile weapons and the absence of the need to carry a heavy and useless gun.
        1. 0
          20 November 2023 12: 33
          The A-10C's arsenal is full of laser- and satellite-guided precision missiles and bombs. For example, there is APKWS, we have no analogues, we have Mayvericks, and we have the X-25s close to them, apparently, we have run out of them.
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    3. +8
      15 November 2023 16: 08
      I'm a pure techie. Those. brought up on good classical literature. This is how I like to read Skomorokhov. Even when I don’t agree with everything. It has logic and meaning.

      Yes, he writes well. Even when there are problems with logic.

      “The Americans, whatever you do with them, do not want to fully publish a secret report on the results of the battles of two aircraft.” laughing

      In our country, the very fact of such battles would be top secret.
      As a result, we learn the most interesting things about us from them and in their interpretation.

      We are talking about “having no analogues”, and then the T-55 suddenly crawls onto the battlefield. wassat
    4. +11
      15 November 2023 16: 44
      This is how I like to read Skomorokhov. Even when I don’t agree with everything. It has logic and meaning.

      He has no “logic and meaning”. Just a person has mastered the functions of automatic translation on the Internet.
      Today's article is a self-translation of an article from the Popular Mechanics website "A Secret Pentagon Report Is Hiding the Results of an A-10 vs. F-35 Fly-Off" (original here - https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/ aviation/a45725294/pentagon-secret-fly-off-between-f-35-and-a-10/), flavored with the author’s verbiage.
    5. 0
      16 November 2023 22: 50
      Yes, yes, again, the Crimean daughter of an officer?
  2. +1
    15 November 2023 05: 16
    One F-35 costs as much as an entire squadron of A-10s. And the probability of being shot down while performing attack aircraft work over the front line is the same. That's the whole answer in terms of price/quality ratio.
    1. +6
      15 November 2023 11: 13
      Quote: Amateur
      One F-35 costs as much as an entire squadron of A-10s. And they have the same probability of being shot down while performing attack aircraft work over the front line.

      The ambush is that now any plane over the front line has the same chance of being shot down. With the advent of mass-produced MANPADS, the classic R&D died - even the Su-25 switched to working as a self-propelled rocket launcher from pitching up.
      But the "penguin" can support infantry from a distance, working with small UAB / UR at designated enemy positions. But the A-10 will have problems with this.
      1. +1
        20 November 2023 12: 41
        If optics and radar allow you to find targets from a height of more than 5 km, then MANPADS are not scary. The Americans have the ability to find and hit ground targets and provide direct support to troops without entering the affected area of ​​ZAK and MANPADS. But our VKS, as shown by the SVO, cannot. That’s why they act like flying MLRS and drop gliding bombs on stationary targets. They cannot hit moving targets, for example, laser-guided anti-aircraft guns. The use of Kh-25ML and S-25LD missiles in the Northern Military District was not noticed
    2. -3
      15 November 2023 19: 15
      The probability of being shot down is significantly higher for the "penguin". Because the “boar” has two engines, spaced far enough apart, and armor, although not that great.
      1. +3
        16 November 2023 01: 23
        The armor is not bad by the way - the titanium “bath” is better than what would be on the SU-25, although not by much. Not only are they spaced apart, but they are also hidden behind the stabilizer and wings - making it difficult for MANPADS to capture them.
        1. +1
          19 November 2023 22: 27
          Well, the current dual-band seekers are already much more sensitive than 50 years ago. I think they will seize confidently. However, like the "penguin".
  3. +7
    15 November 2023 05: 27
    Thanks for the article, Roman!
    When the whole world works for you directly and indirectly, and all you have to do (just!!!) is to ensure the operation of the printing press; when you claim that you have the world's largest reserves of gold, while sending tungsten ingots to China, then you can effortlessly subsidize any terrorist and Nazi projects, and in the field of weapons, space, electronics, experiment with anything and everything you want . That's what they're doing there in Washington. Why should we be surprised?
    Can an economy be considered successful given the insane growth rate of public debt? Of course you can, if the majority agrees with it.
    There is no need to follow the example of the United States in this regard. Different levels. If they start printing money in Russia (or anywhere else), inflation will simply devour our economy. When this is done in the USA, we begin to discuss the benefits and harms of obviously obvious adventures...
    These are my conclusions.
    What about the F-35?
    To hell with it... We don’t have the results of its confrontation with the S-350, S-400, S-500, Su-35, Su-57... It is clear that it is cheaper than the Penguin, but more expensive than the Warthog "...It is clear that its properties and performance characteristics are promoted by advertising and Hollywood...What do we care about that? We should only be concerned with one question: “Can we neutralize this threat to us?”
    1. +3
      15 November 2023 20: 41
      Quote: ROSS 42
      What about the F-35?
      To hell with it... We don’t have the results of its confrontation with the S-350, S-400, S-500, Su-35, Su-57... It is clear that it is cheaper than the Penguin, but more expensive than the Warthog »

      Is the F-35 cheaper than the Penguin? What kind of plane do you think the Penguin is?
  4. +5
    15 November 2023 05: 29
    the public is outraged and demands

    I am interested in the level of technical knowledge of the so-called. "public". Does she, the public, understand the flight and technical capabilities of aircraft? wink
  5. +9
    15 November 2023 05: 59
    What a “scandal”? These are different planes, and it’s stupid to compare. Each is strong in its own niche. hi
  6. -2
    15 November 2023 06: 32
    How ready is the F-35 to replace the A-10 and should the Air Force begin retiring the A-10 and replacing it with the F-35


    Already replacing, I assume that the days of A10 in the USA are numbered. In economics and the military-industrial complex we need to learn from the amers.
  7. +1
    15 November 2023 06: 33
    but the tactical meaning is that the first, second, and third have their own niches,


    Omitting all the drama of the opus (I accept it as a tribute to my profession), I will highlight the main thing for myself..
    The novel again reinforced my conviction: the military should have a wide range of tools, especially in countries that have influence in the world.

    Admission of “accountants” and “economists” to the economy of the army is possible, but only if the “successor” already has a serious backlog of outgoing weapons.
    In other words, a revolution in rearmament is a much more risky phenomenon than evolution.

    And by the way, unlike the USA, in the Russian Federation there are veterans and social activists,
    Such questions are not allowed at all.

    But the “VO” community that has developed here, by the way, could, with the help of AI, issue a consolidated opinion. To do this, you need to create an AI apparatus (algorithms, etc.), competent surveys, and selection, again with the help of AI, of experts, specialists, simply people with a non-standard vision. And in this case, “VO” was not just a gathering of sympathizing “sofa people” and “retirees”, but a completely clear “people's expertise”.

    American billionaires and those who joined them dragged through the decision to start production of the F-35 with pseudo-arguments.
    And, unfortunately, we (in the navy) apparently had such episodes (I mean 20386).
    However, even 20386 was still... not a revolution, but an evolution (more precisely, an evolutionary dead end) of the 20380 project.
  8. +2
    15 November 2023 06: 34
    But in the USA it is not the pilots who decide, but the lobbyists.

    Cool... smile
    History shows that the military often fought on what industry provides. Which, by virtue of its objective nature, is not very capable of giving what they want. History has proven it. request
    Or, if it is capable, then these same lobbyists will mass produce what they need for their own purposes. By the way, the USSR had the same problem. The series included models of those design bureau managers who opened doors in the Kremlin with their feet, but more advanced and better aircraft from less capable but more talented designers did not go beyond the prototype. The same kind of lobbying, only of Soviet tailoring, where authority is more important than profit...
  9. +2
    15 November 2023 07: 07
    1) "Why is it secret"? Because it's secret!
    2) A painfully specific comparison - not in the entire range of combat use:
    1.1) The radar stealth of the F-35 is not taken into account, and as a result, the lower air defense capabilities for detection and destruction;
    1.2) Much newer avionics, control systems, communication systems, flight group control, reconnaissance, target designation, interaction with control commands, etc.;
    1.3) About speed and visual visibility: what is it, the “flickering” of objects depends on the altitude and speed of the flight. And this depends on the specific conditions, terrain, weather conditions, visual visibility, cloud height, explored air defense systems, the ability of the aircraft to work according to target designations or its own means of target detection, types of its own weapons, the nature of the targets, etc., and etc., and as a consequence of this, the chosen tactics.
    3) As for the cost, it is not a fact that today a modern A-10 would cost less to produce. M.b., and more expensive.
    After all, previous and current prices are compared without taking into account changed technologies, equipment, materials, salaries, etc.
    4) If we compare operating costs, then the A-10 still wins.
    5) M.b. that manned aircraft directly supporting troops directly on the battlefield will go into oblivion. UAVs and artificial intelligence are developing too quickly. Perhaps, in 20 years, in general, there will be no aircraft, land or sea transport, piloted by people. This will really be the 6th generation.
    For thought: At the end of 2021, the global market for unmanned vehicles for the year is estimated at 20,3 million units. Such data was published by ResearchAndMarkets in mid-February 2022.
    The self-driving car market is dominated by global players:
    General Motors (USA); Ford (USA); Daimler (Germany); Volkswagen (Germany); Toyota (Japan); Waymo (USA)
    In 2023, the number of self-driving cars will reach 745 units. Over the 705 years 5-2018, the number of these cars increased 2023 times.
    1. 0
      15 November 2023 11: 19
      1.1) - not for an attack aircraft that operates directly on the battlefield; stealth is not needed close to the combat zone - it is too close to the enemy for this to help in any way.
      The stealth of the F-35 is created from the concept that, being on the EDGE of the radar's visibility range, it will still be stealthy. Thus, it delays the moment of its detection to such an extent that the air defense systems would already be late. And the attack aircraft flies directly into the thick of it and flies there as long as there are targets to hit or until it receives damage. For an attack aircraft, maneuverability and security are more important.
      1.2) The new avionics in the F-35 is truly a great advantage over the A-10. Just what prevents this avionics (or part of it) from being introduced through modernization into the same A-10? Having thought through a series of deep modernization, you can easily get an A-10 with information capabilities like the F-35 or close to them. Compare the latest major versions of the F-16 or F/A-18 with their earliest versions, completely different machines.
      3) Firstly, it is not a fact that the cost will be high (but the probability is not 0). But even if the cost of modernization brings the A-10 closer in price to the F-35, then why shouldn’t they do it? This is still an aircraft of its own, assault niche. They modernize a couple of hundred cars, and that’s it. They will not interfere with the progress of the F-35, because they fly in completely different niches. And so they will not only continue to exchange the fleet for new F-35s, but will also update the fleet of attack aircraft from the A-10 to some kind of A-10neo
      Otherwise, I agree
      1. +3
        15 November 2023 18: 23
        Just what prevents this avionics (or part of it) from being introduced through modernization into the same A-10?

        Price. There is no point in upgrading the old A-10s at a price close to the new F-35s. All the same, they will remain niche and not multifunctional aircraft.
        As soon as the attack aircraft moves away from the zone of effective use of unguided weapons, all its advantages turn into disadvantages. In the zone in which it is now realistic to use the A-10, the F-35 will have clear advantages. And in the zone for which the A-10 was created, it is now impossible to actually use it. What's the use of his famous cannon if it can't actually be used?
    2. -1
      15 November 2023 19: 19
      The "Penguin" is stealthy only in the frontal projection; in all others it is clearly visible. Secondly, now optical-electronic devices have stepped forward very much. In good weather, it will be detected 20 or even 30 kilometers away.
  10. 0
    15 November 2023 08: 10
    both the first, and the second, and the third have their own niches

    All contents of the article. laughing
  11. +1
    15 November 2023 09: 57
    How can the F35 fight missiles? I'd really like to read it. The only way: do not enter the affected area, but fire missiles from a long distance, then the question is: why is the F35 better than the F15? And the price is so different.
    1. +3
      15 November 2023 17: 32
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      How can the F35 fight missiles? I'd really like to read it. The only way: do not enter the affected area, but fire missiles from a long distance, then the question is: why is the F35 better than the F15? And the price is so different.

      The modern F-15 costs 30 million more than the F-35
  12. +10
    15 November 2023 10: 05
    The meaning of these tests, in simple terms, boils down to checking whether a robot at this stage of development can replace a person in basic things for humans - for example, lighting a cigarette with a match.
    Will the F-35 computers be able to see and also distinguish and hit, as Uncle John did from his seven-barreled gun at targets in the bushes on the front end.
    The meaning is clear - non-contact war.
    Since the report is classified, the conclusions are “both ours and yours,” which means that computers still have 50 years to grow before Uncle John.
  13. +4
    15 November 2023 10: 34
    Long, filled with some vague hints from the author.
    In fact, the situation is obvious.
    An attack aircraft, in the presence of a trained enemy, is no longer a resident on the battlefield, as it was when he could use his weapon from a distance of visual visibility of the pilot. The development of MANPADS and short-range air defense in general has sharply reduced its capabilities. You won’t be able to shoot much from a cannon at point-blank range, except perhaps at an enemy who doesn’t even have MANPADS, so armor against riflemen becomes a dead weight. The tasks of the attack aircraft have shifted to high-precision weapons, which can be used from a long distance, from beyond the range of air defense and especially MANPADS. To view the battlefield, they began to use advanced electro-optical systems in different ranges, and in this regard, the F-35 is head and shoulders above the attack aircraft (which still uses sighting outboard containers to use high-precision weapons from any noticeable distance).
    Of course, attack aircraft can still be used against a weakly armed enemy, but this is a very limited range of tasks. No one will make new armored attack aircraft, at most light anti-guerrilla attack aircraft against those who only have light small arms. And even those have limited use; they have competitors - helicopters and UAVs.
    1. +2
      15 November 2023 20: 44
      In fact, the A-10 was taken out of service a long time ago. Instead they fly A-10C. In all external and technical similarities, these are fundamentally different aircraft. The A-10S is a front-line bomber, closer to the Su-34 but noticeably more technically advanced. Its main task is to deliver high-precision strikes from a height of 5+ km.
      Quote from solar
      And even those have limited use; they have competitors - helicopters and UAVs.

      Attack aircraft have been replaced by high-precision cannon and rocket artillery, which in conjunction with UAVs has no analogues at all. There is no point in calling in aviation when battalion artillery places shells and missiles in a meter by meter square.
  14. +1
    15 November 2023 11: 26
    We won’t go into detail, they are on the surface, and in the case of the F-35 and A-10 everything is absolutely the same as with the Su-34/Su-25 pair.

    1. The F35 in the US Air Force replaces the Su34 and F16 and F15 (single aircraft)
    2. Su25 and A10 are a dying segment, they do not survive on the LBS. Their role was taken over by UAVs (TsU) and artillery, information security with UMPC and attack anti-tank helicopters (Ka52 and Mi28) or Apache.
    3. The Su34 cannot bomb over the LBS...it throws 90% of the UMPC
    4. F35 were able to combine cybersecurity and air defense missions in one aircraft.
    5. Su34 and Su30 and Su35 are machines that are not unified with each other. And attempts with an armored vehicle are irrelevant today. We need a single Su35S with a double cabin and an aiming container
  15. +3
    15 November 2023 11: 35
    But American (and other) critics have repeatedly stated that the F-35 is a poor replacement for the A-10. The F-35 is faster, making it difficult for the pilot to see the battlefield below, carries less ammunition, is not armored to evade anti-aircraft fire, and does not have a beastly gun like the A-30's 8mm GAU-10/A Gatling gun .

    At the same time, A-10 lobbyists do not ask themselves the question of how to carry out an attack in the style of brrrt on today's battlefield, if the opponents are some kind of army, and not slippers with Kalash rifles. They still dream of the golden years of the world gendarme, when the only opponents of the US Armed Forces were gangs and half-dead armies of third world countries, weakened by years of sanctions.

    Let’s just imagine a classic “warthog” BShU in the very regions where Su-25s have long been cosplaying as MLRS, working as self-propelled guns from a pitched position - just to avoid entering the front-line air defense fire zone. From any side. What kind of observation of the battlefield is there, what kind of work with a cannon, what kind of armor - launch from the left, launch from the right, launch along the course, laser irradiation, the illumination radar works, the guidance radar works, and on top of all this - tracer like a spider's web ©.
    That is, rushing into battle like that, blowing to pieces the bad guys who are defeating the good ones, and not being afraid of what these bad guys have, is not a very easy task for the F-35. He’s good, he’s not afraid of many things, he’s able to shrug off missiles, but a basic ZSU-23-2 for the F-35 will hurt. Very painful. We simply remain silent about something like “Shilka”. This is death. And from an altitude of 8 meters, I’m afraid the pilot won’t be able to tell where anyone is below.

    Likewise, for the A-10 on the modern battlefield, this is also not a very easy task. Because the ZSU-23-2 is a thing of the past, in those days when the United States only got involved in low-intensity conflicts.
    In modern times, the US Armed Forces are again preparing to meet a normal enemy. And on the battlefield with him there is no place for an attack aircraft above the front edge. It simply will not survive under fire from MD, MANPADS and MZA air defense systems.
    The only method of scientific development in this case is to work outside the air defense zone of the front line: in a single system, with external target designation controlled by weapons. And here “Pingua” has no competition.
    1. +3
      15 November 2023 21: 00
      A-10 is about 15 years old, they have been taken out of service. The only reason why their successor, the A-10C, remains in service is the insufficient pace of deployment of the F-35 and the unwillingness to reduce the overall aircraft fleet.
  16. +1
    15 November 2023 12: 33
    So what exactly is the scandal? The topic is not disclosed.
    1. +3
      15 November 2023 13: 19
      It’s strange that in the Russian Federation no one conducts such tests and comparisons.... Su34 and Su30SM with a container, Su35S with a container, MiG35S with 2 OLS..
      1. +2
        15 November 2023 14: 12
        Quote: Zaurbek
        It’s strange that in the Russian Federation no one conducts such tests and comparisons.... Su34 and Su30SM with a container, Su35S with a container, MiG35S with 2 OLS..

        Su-25 with “cast iron” and Su-30 with UAB and URO. wink

        The main thing here is not that compare and How compare using what method.
        If you make a stupid comparison head-on (“apply a BShU along the front edge”), then yes, the IS performs much worse in pure assault missions. More precisely, in this case, both machines will not complete the task, but, as already mentioned above, the loss of information security will cost much more.
        And if you set the general task of supporting the army without specifying the method of application, then the information security will win. Because the attack aircraft will be shot down 100%, and the information security will still have a chance to be abandoned by UABs from a long distance along the coordinates from the PAN or aviation control center (and if these are small UABs, such as SDB, then the information security can throw them at them for a long time).
  17. -7
    15 November 2023 13: 51
    What's incomprehensible here? "Penguin" is another failure of the mattress military-industrial complex, not the first and not the last)))
    1. -2
      15 November 2023 14: 24
      I fully support it, and I’ll even add: failure and cutting, like f22, b-2, f-117, raider, there are countless of them.
  18. +7
    15 November 2023 14: 15
    I read to the point where the author was going to shoot down the f35 zu-23-2... and just went dumb. Or "shilka".... with its weak radar... uh, everything would be as simple as in such articles.
    1. +6
      15 November 2023 17: 27
      Quote: Letterhead
      I read to the point where the author was going to shoot down the f35 zu-23-2... and just went dumb. Or "shilka" .... with its weak radar ...

      It’s just that the author is firmly convinced that infantry support performed by the F-35 will look like a classic attack on the A-10 with its brrrrrrt. smile
      1. -1
        15 November 2023 19: 21
        Are you going to launch a BShU at an ATGM position from a height of 10 km?
    2. -2
      15 November 2023 19: 21
      And what prevents you from installing a modern radar and OPSK on the shilka? By the way, there are already several options. Belarusian is quite good.
  19. Eug
    +2
    15 November 2023 17: 06
    I can’t understand - what’s the problem? Why pit such different aircraft against each other rather than try to use their strengths together? Remove the A-10 as its resource is exhausted and replace it with drones, while simultaneously working out the concept of joint use of all THREE types with the best use of the strengths of each...
    1. +6
      15 November 2023 17: 31
      Quote: Eug
      I can’t understand - what’s the problem? Why pit such different aircraft against each other rather than try to use their strengths together?

      Because in the modern world, the A-10 has strengths only if its opponents are gangs without air defense.
      In conditions of use similar to the same air defense system, the A-10 is a poor information security device that trades avionics, speed and combat load for unnecessary armor.
  20. +1
    15 November 2023 17: 45
    A special tool is always better than a universal one. The idea of ​​​​creating an aircraft that will be the best in all areas is initially vicious - pure “Tukhachevism”.
    1. +1
      16 November 2023 19: 11
      Well. It's always been like that. A tool tailored for a specific job is always better than a universal one. True, you always want a universal one, because it seems that it will be cheaper, even if not as effective. But, in the end, it turns out like with the “penguin” - he’s bad everywhere.
  21. +1
    15 November 2023 18: 08
    Before A 10 goes to iron the leading edge, NATO will overload the air defense and destroy part of it or crush the electronic warfare.
    1. 0
      15 November 2023 18: 25
      MANPADS will not crush you. And in his presence, A-10 has nothing to do.
  22. +4
    15 November 2023 21: 20
    With the A-10, everything became clear during Desert Storm. It turned out (well, who would have thought) that doing a brrrrrrrrt attack on an enemy who has at least MANPADS and MZA is fraught with losses. Therefore, the "Warthogs" were transferred to firing "Mavericks", which they used 90% of all spent in that campaign. But with such an application, there is no need for either a super-gun or armor - the plane was simply carrying excess weight, which could be used for additional reserves of the same "Mavericks". After the Storm, the US Air Force made clear conclusions and a whole generation of generals stubbornly tried to get rid of the A-10. But politicians stubbornly prevented them from doing this. The attack aircraft was well suited for wars with the “slippers”, and until recently nothing else was planned.

    But now it's a suicide plane. And comparing it with the F-35 is simply ridiculous. As a guided weapons platform, the F-35 is better, and attempts to imitate the Il-2 in modern conditions are equally contraindicated for both. But the F-35 is a fighter, and the A-10 is just a target for fighters.
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  24. +1
    15 November 2023 22: 12
    Wow! Amers are publishing a truncated secret report, because .... "by law"
    We don’t have anything clear with either the SU 57, or the SU75, or the 3000 armata... and we don’t intend to publish anything, we can only judge by indirect data.

    But in real life, it’s easy to compare two completely different aircraft, and it’s unclear why they’re scolding them - since it’s “classified” - it’s clear for PR purposes why, but in real life, IMHO, it’s strange...
    The combination of an attack aircraft and a modern bombardier is logical. There may be inconsistencies in the designation of goals, but this is essentially fortune telling on the coffee grounds
  25. +1
    15 November 2023 22: 24
    Affftor is a little off topic. Firstly, Su34 replaces Su24, not Su25. Secondly, no one ever expected the F35 to perform the functions of the A10. At the end of the last century, amers worked on a project to replace the latter, codenamed A12. But it turned out to be very expensive, and the project was closed without even creating a prototype.
    1. +1
      16 November 2023 00: 40
      At the end of the last century, amers worked on a project to replace the latter, codenamed A12. But it turned out to be very expensive, and the project was closed without even creating a prototype.

      You're also off topic.
      The Douglas/General Dynamics A-12 Avenger II was intended to replace the Grumman A-6 Intrumer.


      Grumman A-6 Intrumer



      Douglas/General Dynamics A-12 Avenger II - proposed appearance.
      1. 0
        28 December 2023 10: 50
        Something about this triangular tailless bird (A-12) looks kind of creepy considering the ejection launch and landing on aero arresting devices.
        1. -1
          29 December 2023 22: 16
          Something about this triangular tailless bird (A-12) looks kind of creepy considering the ejection launch and landing on aero arresting devices.

          She looks normal.
  26. 0
    16 November 2023 00: 24
    Fu 35 (as an attack aircraft) and A-10, as well as Su-25 - an endangered type of aviation. Fire support helicopters are similar. Whether someone likes it or not. UAVs are now actively developing and very soon the hour will come when the company commander will give a command to the operator and a swarm of homing missiles (UAVs) will fly into the air from a truck like an MLRS, which will quickly reach and destroy all the targets. You won't even need an aircraft controller. Look at the work of the new Lancets. Efficiency is almost 100%. When they add the function of searching for targets and destroying them offline. Army aviation will die.
    Mi 24/35 helicopters will be needed to search and rescue crews. Fu 35 for launching long-range missiles. And the above listed sucks on the storage bases
  27. +1
    16 November 2023 04: 07
    Guys, why do you get paid for comparing a circle with a square?
  28. +2
    16 November 2023 10: 41
    Great article, I would say a tutorial on how to turn a useful informative article into water.
  29. +2
    16 November 2023 16: 03
    Quote: TermNachTER
    And what prevents you from installing a modern radar and OPSK on the shilka? By the way, there are already several options. Belarusian is quite good.

    23 mm died. He died a very long time ago.
    1. 0
      19 November 2023 22: 31
      And in addition to four 23 mm, which works very well against UAVs, he has eight “Iglas”, which work very well against such targets.
  30. 0
    18 November 2023 22: 44
    The question for attack aircraft (A-10, Su-25, etc.) is conceptual: what will happen to them in a clash between armies with equal military potential? Those. those who have their own radar networks, deployed air defense systems and modern fighter aircraft. So far, attack aircraft have demonstrated all their successes against an enemy that is obviously weaker in military-technical terms (USSR against the Mujahideen, the USA against Iraq, Yugoslavia). Perhaps the idea of ​​​​using the MiG-21, Su-17 and F-35 as an attack aircraft is not so bad. The only thing that confuses us is that these are single-engine planes.
  31. +2
    19 November 2023 16: 44
    The F-35 operates from an altitude of 3-8 km and attacks targets from a distance of 30-80 km in enemy air defense conditions.
    A-10 from a height of several hundred meters in conditions of completely suppressed air defense.
    1. +1
      19 November 2023 22: 33
      Then let's call a spade a spade. The F-35 is not an attack aircraft and was not even intended to be one. It is a fighter-bomber and then there is no need to compare it with the A-10 or Su-25.
  32. 0
    19 November 2023 22: 49
    As far as I remember, that’s what it’s called - a multifunctional fighter-bomber.
  33. 0
    21 November 2023 04: 53
    Well, we compared the incomparable! wassat Aircraft from different times, and also for different purposes!
  34. 0
    23 November 2023 21: 16
    Is it because the F-35 suddenly turned out to be a worthless aircraft?

    Not suddenly, not suddenly!
    Viktor Viktorovich, in one of his books, has a completely derogatory phrase addressed to a very unsympathetic hero: “at the moment when he was conceived, someone loudly knocked on the door of his parents’ bedroom.”
    The customer's mistake cannot be corrected!
    The mistake lies in the fact that the airplane, its power plant and airframe were initially required to fulfill completely contradictory wishes.
    The power plant had to provide vertical take-off using a huge fan, at the same time cruising flight without afterburner at supersonic speed and at least the rudiments of super-maneuverability.
    But the presence of a very powerful turbine with a vertical fan drive makes normal, economical operation in horizontal flight, especially in supersonic flight, problematic.
    The thick fuselage in the middle part, hello to Whitcomb, guarantees enormous resistance at transonic speeds.
    This is the first thing that comes to mind.
    The Americans are generally quite advanced in universalism, although I remember only one military product that turned out to be truly universal, this is the famous 5"/38 gun.
    Well, people love to bang their heads against walls!
    1. 0
      20 January 2024 14: 41
      Don't write nonsense if you don't know. The VTOL F-35 is the F-35B. It has almost nothing in common with the F-35A and F-35C, other than a similar appearance and name. It was intended to replace the AV-8A Harrier vertical take-off and landing fighter. The F-35C is a carrier-based fighter to replace the F-18.
  35. 0
    20 January 2024 14: 29
    In my opinion there is too much text. It is already clear to anyone, even superficially versed in military aviation, that an attempt to replace a low-altitude attack aircraft with an overweight, lightweight supersonic multirole fighter with an emphasis on bombing capabilities is a rare perversion. Such indifferent perversion became possible thanks to the collapse of the USSR. The fact is that the F-22 and F-35A were originally created as heavy and light fifth-generation fighters to replace the F-15 and fourth-generation F-16 in the US Air Force, respectively, but since the F-35A did not have time to be created before the collapse of the USSR, after, realizing that there would be no need to fight with anyone in the near future, it was decided to redesign the F-35A as a commercial fighter-bomber in order to sell it to American satellites to replace the fattened bomber versions of the F-16, which in turn were originally created as a budget version of the fighter -bomber. At the same time, their radar signature was specifically increased, because in the United States Congress prohibited the sale of truly stealthy aircraft abroad, even to its allies. Well, since Russia was already defeated, and there was not even a whiff of the “Chinese threat” yet, it was at the same time decided to push the resulting s*** into its Air Force, and the plans were Napoleonic. The situation was aggravated by the degradation of quality control of the American military-industrial complex and the corruption components that followed their unconditional victory in the Cold War. Even if the F-35A were not buggy, the very concept of a mixture of a hedgehog and a snake, and even with deliberate deterioration of its stealth contours, which already worsened its aerodynamics and did not allow the use of an integral layout, makes it simply an unreasonably expensive monster.
  36. 0
    2 March 2024 16: 21
    Reading this text convinced me to let it go. The old Lt. Columbus series on Amazon Prime is the best way to use your time winked