The effectiveness of the Iron Dome air defense system during massive shelling

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The effectiveness of the Iron Dome air defense system during massive shelling
Combat work of the Iron Dome during Operation Guardian of the Walls, 2021. Photo by the Israeli Ministry of Defense


Over the past month, Israel's national missile defense system has been undergoing its most severe and lengthy test of combat capability in real-world conditions. Most of the work to detect and destroy enemy missiles is now performed by the short-range anti-aircraft complex “Kipat Barzel” / “Iron Dome”. Due to a number of objective factors, now his work can only be called satisfactory.



Strikes and defense


Let us remind you that Palestinian armed forces launched a massive attack on Israeli territory on the morning of October 7. The first major shelling was perhaps the most massive in stories conflicts in the region. After this, the attacking side continued launches, but with less intensity.

Following the first attack, representatives of the Hamas movement reported that 5,5 thousand rockets were used in it. The command of the Israeli army gave a more modest estimate - about 2,2 thousand products. However, the shelling continues, and to date the Israeli side has counted more than 8 thousand rockets.

Detailed and accurate information on the results of the Palestinian strikes is not yet available. It is known that a significant proportion of missiles, due to poor manufacturing quality, did not hit cities or military targets. The IDF’s missile defense system, represented by several types of anti-aircraft systems, was also allegedly able to intercept a significant share.

The use of virtually all available missile defense equipment has been reported. The main burden fell on the most widespread and widespread anti-missile air defense systems “Kipat Barzel”, located in almost all potentially dangerous areas. Also appeared news about the first successful use of a laser missile defense system, but it soon became clear that this information was not true.


Palestinian rockets in the air. Photo Telegram / "Military Chronicle"

The active work and certain successes of the Israeli missile defense system are confirmed by eyewitness accounts and numerous video materials from interception zones. However, it was not possible to hit all flying targets. According to various estimates, at least several dozen Palestinian rockets successfully reached their targets or were shot down, fell and caused damage on the ground.

For obvious reasons, Israel is in no hurry to disclose full statistics on missed and intercepted targets. Hamas, in turn, is unable to objectively assess the results of its strikes. However, this does not prevent both sides from reporting successes and solving the assigned tasks.

Remedy


Israel's main missile defense system is the Iron Dome short-range air defense system. This is the most numerous complex of the national missile defense system, it covers the largest area, and is also responsible for the defense of the most difficult areas. In addition, it is this air defense system that receives the main glory in the context of the fight against ballistic targets.

The Kipat Barzel was initially developed by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, and then the American Raytheon was involved in the creation of the interceptor missile. The main work was completed in the XNUMXs, and at the beginning of the XNUMXs the air defense system was ready for adoption.

The first Kupol battery went on combat duty at the end of March 2011. Just a few days later, the first episode of combat use was reported - the air defense system successfully shot down a Palestinian unguided missile. Over the next few years, nine more batteries were deployed, covering all areas of Israel threatened by unguided short-range missiles. The possibility of forming new similar formations, placing air defense systems on ships, etc. was discussed.


Interception of targets with Tamir anti-missile missiles. Photo Telegram / "Sith Corner"

According to the disclosed data, each battery of the Kipat Barzel air defense system includes its own search radar with an AFAR type ELM-2084 with a detection range of large targets of up to 400-470 km. There is a combat control center that processes data on the air situation. The battery includes three or four transportable launchers with 20 interceptor missiles each. With the help of trucks, all the assets of the complex can move between positions, but deployment and preparation for departure take considerable time.

The Tamir anti-aircraft guided missile is directly responsible for combating ballistic targets. This product is 3 m long, weighs 90 kg, has a maximum flight speed of 700 m/s and a range of up to 17 km. Guidance - by commands from the ground or using your own radar seeker. The missile carries an 11-kg high-explosive fragmentation warhead with a proximity fuse.

The developer and operator claim that the Iron Dome air defense system uses the selective principle of hitting targets. During combat operations, the radar and control center of the complex calculate which of the detected targets threaten populated areas or other objects. Anti-missile missiles are launched at them, while others are allowed to fall in a safe place. It is assumed that this approach reduces ammunition consumption, increases the operating time before reloading the launcher, and also reduces the cost of duty and combat use.

Objective difficulties


According to known data, the Kipat Barzel and other missile defense systems of the Israeli army intercepted a large number of ballistic targets on October 7, but several dozen missiles still fell in urban areas. The reasons for this are generally clear. Despite all their advantages, the missile defense systems available to the IDF have objective disadvantages and limitations.

The main reason for the limited success of the Domes a month ago should be considered the discrepancy between the ammunition load and the scale of that attack. It is easy to calculate that 10 deployed batteries, when fully equipped, can include up to 30-40 launchers with 600-800 interceptor missiles. To increase the likelihood of hitting a target, missiles should be launched in pairs. Accordingly, the Kipat Barzel complexes in that situation, even in theory, could shoot down no more than 400-800 missiles, and this is the maximum estimate.


The fall of a Tamir missile on Israeli territory. Photo Telegram / "Vestnik Air Defense"

According to Hamas, during the first strike alone, approx. 5,5 thousand missiles. The ready-made ammunition of the Iron Domes would only be enough for 10-14 percent. from this number of threats. There is no information on the proportion of missiles that flew towards populated areas and posed a threat. At the same time, it could seriously complement the existing picture - these data will show what part of the real threats the missile defense system was able to neutralize.

However, judging by the missiles falling in the cities, the air defense systems really were unable to completely repel the attack. First of all, due to the oversaturation of missile defense. The enemy launched too many missiles for Israeli systems to intercept at least the part of them that was flying towards the cities.

In this context, attention should be paid to the events of the following days and weeks. Palestinian militias continue to fire rockets at Israel, but the intensity of shelling has decreased to dozens of shells per day. The Iron Dome can cope with such attacks - it has enough speed and ammunition.

With all this, there is reason to talk about some imperfection of the “Dome”. There are known amateur videos showing the flight of Tamirs along a strange trajectory and subsequent fall to the ground. The prerequisites for such incidents are unknown, but the negative consequences are obvious - the interceptor missile not only did not interfere with the enemy projectile, but also did part of the work for it.

The massive use of “Kipat Barzel” against a major attack had negative financial consequences. Initially, one Tamir missile cost about 50-70 thousand US dollars. Reportedly, to date, mass production has allowed the price to increase to 40 thousand. However, even with such a reduction in prices, the cost of “volleys” on the scale of October 7 turns out to be excessive. At the same time, the possible volumes of compensation, construction, etc. should be taken into account. if the enemy missiles had not been shot down.


Anti-missile takeoff. Photo by Rafael

Predictable outcome


Thus, during the next combat use, the Israeli Kipat Barzel missile defense system did not perform in the best way. He was able to intercept a mass of enemy missiles, but missed some of these targets, which led to casualties and destruction on the ground. The presence of other specialized air defense systems generally did not improve the overall results, mainly due to the peculiarities of defense echeloning.

The main reason for the very limited successes and noticeable failures was the competent organization of the attack by Palestinian forces. They took into account the features of the IDF missile defense system and were able to provide a massive strike. Due to the number of missiles launched, it was possible to compensate for possible misses and create an excessive load on defense systems.

It should be noted that in recent years, one of the main topics of discussion in the context of Israeli missile defense systems has been their ability to repel massive attacks. As practice has shown, the built national missile defense system is capable of coping with tens and hundreds of home-made missiles. However, more intense shelling can penetrate such defenses and cause damage.

How Israel will react to recent events and begin to develop its missile defense system is still unknown. Perhaps he will deploy new air defense missile batteries, modernize systems, or develop completely new defense systems. Time will tell how successful these projects will be and what results they will achieve.
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  1. +24
    8 November 2023 04: 08
    For a month of war:

    About 9600 rockets were fired at Israel from 4 arenas.

    Iron Dome missile defense interception success rate is over 88%

    The David's Sling missile defense (Magic Wand) made 60 interceptions, with 100% success.

    Half of all missile launches were carried out in the first 36 hours of the war.

    1 girl died of a heart attack due to the fear of rocket fire.

    There were no fatalities from missile hits.
    1. +26
      8 November 2023 04: 39
      Thus, during the next combat use, the Israeli Kipat Barzel missile defense system did not perform in the best way. He was able to intercept a mass of enemy missiles, but missed some of these targets, which led to casualties and destruction on the ground.
      "dome" works quite well. There is no air defense system in the world that would work better under such an overload.
      1. +18
        8 November 2023 05: 57
        Article from the series: I see a grain of sand in someone else’s eye, but I don’t notice a log in my own. If you compare the results of the work of the Iron Dome and the results of the work of our air defense, in which out of 15 missiles fired, three hit the new Askold MRK, then something else becomes unclear. Why, having initially the best air defense and missile defense systems in the world, did they not develop and turn into air defense systems like the Iron Dome?
        This is the main question, and first of all, to our leadership of the Moscow Region
        1. +18
          8 November 2023 06: 28
          The answer, as it were, suggests itself.
          In the area of ​​integration, Israel has surpassed both the States and Russia, i.e. its software and its own optics (radars) made it possible to combine into one whole - short/medium/long-range missile defense.
          Do not forget that the sizes of Israel and Russia are not comparable.

          And all this technological power did not protect us from freaks with Kalash rifles and RPGs in pickup trucks, the “price” was almost 1500 civilians torn to pieces in their homes.
          1. +2
            8 November 2023 07: 13
            it will deploy new air defense missile systems, modernize systems, or develop completely new defense systems.

            This will not solve the main problem - the decision on the fate of the Palestinians... for every air defense there is its own key.
          2. 0
            11 November 2023 15: 31
            This is a question for their ROS Guard. They slept for a long time or other explanations. This means that with our scale, it will be worse.
        2. +9
          8 November 2023 06: 38
          Yes, but it’s not the natives who are firing at Russia using homemade or outdated missiles.
        3. +5
          8 November 2023 07: 19
          On the one hand, you are right, but on the other, not so much. It’s one thing to shoot down pieces of pipe, another thing is to shoot down a target created to break through air defense. Which travels at inconvenient heights, maneuvers, and may have low reflectivity. Something tells me that the Iskander strike would have been 90% successful. Like Tomahawks or Calibers.
          1. +9
            8 November 2023 13: 03
            The Houthis are firing their calibers while none have reached them.
            1. -1
              9 February 2024 10: 20
              Funny, do the Houthis have a caliber? Secondly, these are not calibers, but old ballistic missiles. In 3, the missiles launched by the Houthis are shot down by US interceptors and the air defense of SAUDI ARABIA. In 4, which area is protected by the vaunted iron dome, it is even smaller than the territory of the DPR. If the territory of the DPR is saturated with so much air defense, I don’t think that the result will be no worse.
              1. 0
                9 February 2024 12: 59
                The Houthis have cruise missiles that the Iranians made based on Soviet cruise missiles bought from Ukraine in the early 2000s
        4. +6
          8 November 2023 09: 23
          The comparison is inappropriate. The types of missiles used are, how can I put it politely, of slightly different generations.
        5. +5
          8 November 2023 11: 04
          Is it okay that the “megadome” shoots down missiles of the level of the 30s?
          Nothing is flying at us, but something more modern and often creeping almost along the ground?
        6. +8
          8 November 2023 13: 01
          It seems obvious to me that if our Defense Ministry acted like the IDF, these 15 missiles would not have flown, there would be no one and nowhere to launch them. And the MRK would not have stood at the pier for 3 years for completion
        7. 0
          8 November 2023 20: 17
          You somehow got carried away. I can’t imagine what would have happened to all these Israeli systems in the war in Ukraine. Death that would have happened. Don’t forget and don’t compare two different threats and ways to deal with them. I thought and still think our air defense was and is the best. Unfortunately, the problems with the command are here and the main problem is not in the air defense.
        8. 0
          12 December 2023 18: 09
          Ramsay, are you now seriously comparing the work of air defense on water pipes and on modern cruise missiles? Is this some kind of irony?
      2. +16
        8 November 2023 08: 00
        "dome" works quite well.
        Works fine.
      3. 0
        20 January 2024 17: 49
        If you need to block a small predictable area, then Russia is able to block it with greater efficiency, and if for the same money, then create an impenetrable dome altogether. The entire effectiveness of the dome lies only in the imperfection of the means of attack.
    2. +3
      9 November 2023 20: 10
      The largest ever deployment of air defense batteries throughout Israel.

      Since the beginning of the war, about 9600 rockets and dozens of UAVs have been fired into Israel. They were intercepted by the Iron Dome, David's Sling, Patriot and Arrow air defense systems, which were operating simultaneously for the first time.

      About 900 missiles were launched from civilian sites such as mosques, schools, hospitals and cultural centers.

      12% of the total number of rocket launches from Gaza towards Israel fell in the Gaza Strip itself - that's 1140 rockets Hamas launched on the heads of Gazans.
    3. 0
      20 January 2024 17: 47
      Do you even believe in what you wrote?
  2. +10
    8 November 2023 04: 30
    Each Iron Dome missile is now worth ~$40k
    David's Sling missile ~ $700k
    1. +12
      8 November 2023 05: 51
      A rich country can afford expensive weapons.
    2. +10
      8 November 2023 06: 27
      Quote: simple person
      Each Iron Dome missile is now worth ~$40k
      David's Sling missile ~ $700k

      For every rocket that falls on a city, the State of Israel pays $250 million. So it’s cheaper for them to shoot down.
      1. AAK
        +8
        8 November 2023 10: 43
        Indeed, the author, to put it mildly, decided to kick the Israeli air defense without thinking about the fact that even the Banderas did not launch thousands of missiles in our direction... hundreds - yes, and never more than 2-3 dozen at a time, but I’m not sure Do our air defense systems show the same 88% accuracy in hitting targets, and taking into account the Palestinian nuances and drawing some analogies - how many would our air defense shoot down, say, out of 2000 Haymars launched in one day?
        1. +2
          8 November 2023 15: 28
          and when were “2-3 dozen” missiles launched simultaneously on the territory of the Russian Federation?
          1. AAK
            +2
            8 November 2023 18: 52
            It happened when they fired both missile launchers and long-range MLRS ("Haimars", "Vilha") and anti-ship missiles
        2. +1
          8 November 2023 20: 45
          You compared the chimera and the Palestinian flying pipe
      2. +2
        8 November 2023 12: 34
        Oh, I can’t believe it, with such prices they have to pay the budget of a country like the Czech Republic for the last month.
  3. +9
    8 November 2023 05: 20
    We must face the truth, the dome works perfectly well, if it were in Crimea (hypothetically), with lousy Ukrainian launches, the MRKs and BDKs would be intact, and there would be no hit to the headquarters either...
    1. +3
      8 November 2023 05: 42
      Unfortunately, the Dome in Crimea would not have helped, it is indeed now one of the best short-range missile defense systems, but -
      The Dome works only against ballistic targets, and mainly cruise missiles and UAVs fly to Crimea, here the Dome is still powerless.
      1. 0
        24 January 2024 13: 37
        An Israeli fighter shot down a cruise missile, but how many of ours were shot down with the help of a fighter, zero.
    2. +6
      8 November 2023 05: 50
      You are comparing two unique rockets. A flying section of a water pipe and a rocket that changes its trajectory and is unnoticeable. Plus also rebooting the system with false targets.
      Although I consider the chosen strategy for the development of the intellectual system by Israel to be correct.
      1. +9
        8 November 2023 06: 40
        Quote: Arkadich
        You are comparing two unique rockets. A flying section of a water pipe and a rocket that changes its trajectory and is unnoticeable. Plus also rebooting the system with false targets.
        Although I consider the chosen strategy for the development of the intellectual system by Israel to be correct.

        But thousands of missiles at point-blank range and a reaction time of a few seconds, and a dozen subsonic missiles + a few minutes of reaction are two big differences
        1. +7
          8 November 2023 07: 30
          Not certainly in that way. Given the flight altitude, the target may be detected too close to react. And so yes. The Israeli complex is more suitable for repelling a mass attack on simple targets. If memory serves, the formidable s-400 can direct 72 missiles at 36 targets. That's all. Then you either get lost in space or dissolve in it. Reloading is not fast. Yes, there may be other complexes nearby, but the possibilities are limited.
          1. 0
            24 January 2024 13: 39
            1000 axes would have flown by, how many could our analogues have no air defense shoot down?
    3. +1
      8 November 2023 06: 16
      And for missile defense in Crimea, the system is almost ideal
      ZRK C-300BM "Antey-2500"

      But why is she not there, the question is...
      1. +2
        8 November 2023 10: 23
        Quote: simple person
        But why is she not there, the question is...

        Because this is a military air defense system, not an air defense system of the Aerospace Forces.
        To work against ballistic targets, the VKS has the S-400.
        1. 0
          9 November 2023 04: 21
          S-350 "Vityaz" is an intermediate class air defense system between the heavyweights S-400/500 and the light "Pantsir-S1". Its main task is to neutralize as many of these same cruise missiles as possible at a distance of up to 150 kilometers.
          ...

          One launcher can accommodate up to 36 such missiles, which greatly influences such a concept as “oversaturation of the enemy’s air defense.” In total, the S-350 division has 12 launchers, which allows us to draw some conclusions. The minimum number of missiles is 144, the maximum is 432. It is clear that they will not load one type of missile to capacity, there is zero point in this, but even if you take 10 launchers filled with long-range missiles and 2 for close combat, the figure is impressive - 192 interceptors.


          https://dzen.ru/a/YaCO95Xx4T_KjIOW
  4. +10
    8 November 2023 05: 47
    When you don’t have anything of your own, you can criticize someone else’s. In fact, the Iron Dome showed its effectiveness. Not one system in the world is capable of providing 100% results. Again, Russian air defense is poorly capable of intercepting even one missile. The defeat of the Russian ship, and before that of airfields, including those with strategic missile carriers, showed the low effectiveness of our air defense, but we criticize the Israeli system, apparently out of envy.
    1. +7
      8 November 2023 11: 47
      Quote: Alexey Zezin
      The defeat of the Russian ship, and before that of airfields, including those with strategic missile carriers, showed the low effectiveness of our air defense, but we criticize the Israeli system, apparently out of envy.

      Kirill cannot criticize “his own” - subordination does not allow it; only the “chief of the weapons section” Skomorokhov can criticize his own wassat
    2. -2
      8 November 2023 17: 36
      Quote: Alexey Zezin
      When you don’t have anything of your own, you can criticize someone else’s.
      We have our own: our analogue is Thor.
      1. -1
        11 November 2023 15: 55
        Quote: bk0010
        our analogue is Thor
        The Tor M2, like the ZhK, can intercept rocket artillery shells.
  5. +4
    8 November 2023 06: 14
    The effectiveness of the Iron Dome air defense system during massive shelling
    . In general, as the experts said... the best air defense, you know where you have your own tanks!
    Not a single air defense system can withstand a completely massive, complex strike from the enemy, much less a super-massive strike, the “economy” cannot withstand, so to speak.
    And so, the system is working, but not ideal, but how would it work in the conditions of delivering more complex, complex attacks, who knows...
  6. +7
    8 November 2023 07: 58
    The Iron Dome is an air defense system tailored for a specific purpose - repelling a massive attack by homemade ballistic missiles made from pipes and gas cylinders. Moreover, the system is smart; it does not hit targets flying past the object. I think that shelling of an object by a GRAD battery will be repelled by 80%. Another plus of the system is launchers for 20 missiles. The downside is its very low mobility, i.e. in a real war it will be quickly destroyed by kamikaze drones. You can’t put it in a forest belt, only somewhere in a city, and a city in a country that will be at war with Russia)).
    1. 0
      8 November 2023 11: 00
      Strictly speaking, Hezbollah was tempted to hit the dome with quadrics and then die en masse.
  7. +2
    8 November 2023 10: 28
    I have long concluded that a modern missile attack basically represents a breakthrough of some missiles (most often guided ones) to designated targets under the cover of a huge mass of unguided missiles, whose purpose is to confuse and overload the enemy’s missile defense system. At the moment, there are two ways to counter such tactics of a missile attack, and both are fantastic: oversaturate the missile defense system with launchers in several echelons (very expensive) or create protective fields, as in various works of space science fiction. Well, I won’t talk about the “Iron Dome”: this system may be effective against Hamas cobblestones, but in fact it has not been tested en masse on the battlefield against a professional army.
    1. 0
      10 November 2023 18: 48
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      To counter such tactics of a missile attack, there are two ways and both are fantastic:

      And one is realistic. Since Hamas does not have any early warning system, launching a ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead in a concrete-piercing version, to detonate at a depth of 150 - 200 m, will lead to the fact that all radioactive substances will remain buried in the vitrified shell of the cavern, but on the surface a shock wave in the ground will be All crews were killed and launchers were destroyed. And that's all. The result will be a round desert, and a hint to the Arabs.
      1. 0
        14 November 2023 21: 43
        Why do you think that the explosion will turn out to be camouflage in this case?
  8. +10
    8 November 2023 10: 29
    Why suddenly the results are ''not very good''? The results are good. Air defense officers are the only ones who worked regularly in the IDF during an attack.
  9. -2
    8 November 2023 10: 59
    During combat operations, the radar and control center of the complex calculate which of the detected targets threaten populated areas or other objects. Anti-missile missiles are launched at them, while others are allowed to fall in a safe place.


    This means that if you add a couple of steering wheels, servos and a simple controller to the “steel pipe”, you can first launch it “into the desert” and the missile defense system doesn’t care.
    And suddenly the missiles will taxi up and the ZRADA is TOTAL (but in Hebrew).
  10. -2
    8 November 2023 11: 21
    For obvious reasons, Israel is in no hurry to disclose full statistics on missed and intercepted targets. Hamas, in turn, is unable to objectively assess the results of its strikes. However, this does not prevent both sides from reporting successes and solving the assigned tasks.

    Israel does not disclose statistics or does not intend to disclose them, but there are statistics on losses from rocket attacks. Human losses in Israel before and after the use of the Zh. Dome remained virtually unchanged, but material losses increased many times over.
    1. Human losses are minimal, regardless of the existence of the Dome, since there is a good warning system and the number of shelters for the population.
    2. Material losses are significant due to the evacuation of the population, interruptions in work during missile attacks, cessation of flights, and so on.
    3. Israel is suffering new and heaviest material losses today precisely because of the use of the Zh. Dome. The crazy firing of guided missile defense missiles with all the gold on Hamas’s homemade products from water pipes is very well complemented by rains from fragments of both “intercepted” missiles and interceptors on the cities and towns of Israel and strikes by failed interceptors on protected objects.
  11. +5
    8 November 2023 12: 53
    The system was designed to intercept NURs, and it intercepts them very successfully. It was probably designed taking into account the maximum possible density of fire, and so far the enemy has not exceeded such density.
    In general, IMHO, judging by modern results, the system is adequate to the situation.
    On a different theater of war and with a different enemy, the effectiveness may be lower, but that’s a completely different story.
  12. +1
    8 November 2023 13: 25
    It would be quite interesting to know what would happen if the Russian MoD behaved like the IDF, with:
    - Zelensky
    - the highest Ukrainian military and civilian leadership
    - Ukrainian propagandists
    - Ukrainian pilots
    - Ukrainian airfields
    - Ukrainian specialists at these airfields
    - Ukrainian bridges
    - Ukrainian oil refineries
    - Ukrainian power plants
    - Ukrainian ports

    I think each of us will answer that nothing and no one from this list would exist anymore
    1. 0
      9 November 2023 19: 47
      Yes, somehow in Syria and Lebanon everything is intact - the leadership, the power plants, and the propagandists.
  13. +2
    8 November 2023 15: 39
    Quote from alexoff
    It would be quite interesting to know what would happen if the Russian Defense Ministry behaved like the IDF


    To begin with, this requires having such an advantage over the enemy as the IDF has.
    1. +2
      8 November 2023 18: 55
      Quote: S.Z.
      Quote from alexoff
      It would be quite interesting to know what would happen if the Russian Defense Ministry behaved like the IDF


      To begin with, this requires having such an advantage over the enemy as the IDF has.

      The same level of courage and intelligence?
  14. 0
    8 November 2023 17: 40
    Well, why do you need one for shooting?
    This product is 3 m long, weighing 90 kg, with a maximum flight speed of 700 m/s and a range of up to 17 km
    like a rocket to put one like this
    includes its own search radar with AFAR type ELM-2084 with a detection range of large targets up to 400-470 km.

    cool radar? It would be better to buy a dozen phased array radars with a range of 50 km for the same money, since the missile is a radio command, it would be more useful.
    Reportedly, to date, mass production has allowed the price to increase to 40 thousand.
    Short-range radio command missile with 40 pieces of greenery?! For what?!!!
    1. +2
      8 November 2023 18: 23
      Quote: bk0010
      Well, why do you need one for shooting?
      This product is 3 m long, weighing 90 kg, with a maximum flight speed of 700 m/s and a range of up to 17 km
      like a rocket to put one like this
      includes its own search radar with AFAR type ELM-2084 with a detection range of large targets up to 400-470 km.

      cool radar?

      So this is a standard multifunctional radar - OTC, missile defense control and even counter-battery. It is also included in the SPYDER-MR complex, but its range is only 35 km.
  15. -1
    8 November 2023 18: 42
    Quote: ramzay21
    If we compare the results of the work of the Iron Dome and the results of the work of our air defense, in which out of 15 missiles fired, three hit the new MRK Askold

    Don’t you want to compare the characteristics of the targets? Primitive missiles flying from a predetermined direction along a predetermined trajectory - and all sorts of Scalps and Stormshadows, maneuvering and low-altitude?
  16. Alf
    +1
    8 November 2023 19: 25
    Radar with AFAR type ELM-2084 with a detection range of large targets up to 400-470 km.

    Is a zero superfluous for a short-range air defense system?
    1. +2
      9 November 2023 10: 28
      Quote: Alf
      Is a zero superfluous for a short-range air defense system?

      Nope. This is the data from the IAI website:
      Detection range of up to 256 NM for Air Surveillance purposes or up to 100 km for Weapon Location purposes

      Simply, the ELM-2084 is a multifunctional radar that can operate on targets with a small RCS (up to mortar mines), provide data on the estimated launch locations of these targets and their fall, work as an OTC radar and SAM control.
      And in general, for a system that intercepts homemade NURSs with missiles costing from 20 to 100 kilobucks, the cost of the radar no longer matters much. smile
  17. -2
    8 November 2023 19: 33
    For this money, Israel could be forced into Torahs in two rows.
  18. -3
    8 November 2023 20: 29
    I’m from Belgorod myself and I’ll tell you, if we didn’t have such air defense, you would be surprised at a lot of things. I don’t know if the “Dome”, David’s Sling would have withstood it when it flies at you and at the object being protected. It flies from the UAV to the “Haimers and Vilha” when all the work is in full view of the enemy. What would happen to the Israeli systems in the event of a combined strike and in several echelons. Death and that’s it. But our air defense stands and will stand. Of course we need to improve, but we cannot consider two different wars and levels of the enemy. By the way After testing the Kupol, the United States refused to purchase them. Fact.
  19. 0
    9 November 2023 12: 01
    Quote from alexoff
    The same level of courage and intelligence?


    No, the same quantitative and qualitative superiority.
  20. 0
    9 November 2023 12: 03
    Quote: Mikhail Maslov
    What would happen to Israeli systems in the event of a combined strike in several echelons?


    Presumably, in this case, their systems would have different characteristics.
  21. +6
    10 November 2023 09: 57
    Good expensive object-based air defense