Revolvers and pistols from E to G

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Revolvers and pistols from E to G
Armand Etienne pistol from Liege


Whose address is on a hard bag,
Where is death packaged?
Who is the bullet for?
Where is she going to fly to today?

Adam Lindsay Gordon
(October 19, 1833 – June 24, 1870).

Little-known revolvers and pistols from “A” to “Z”. So, today we are considering not even two, but three letters of the Latin alphabet: E, F and G.



The reason is simple: not all gunsmiths whose last names begin with these letters made revolvers and pistols. Or they did, but they were copies of someone else’s weapons, and there was absolutely nothing original or interesting in them.

Others - and these are the majority - glorified their names with hunting rifles, but had nothing to do with pistols and revolvers. Someone made flintlock pistols - for us this is too equal. Some are single-shot - sports or dueling. Well, what's interesting about them?

And since our selection criteria are quite strict, we will inevitably have to pass by simply a huge number of all kinds of “trunks”. However, what remains for us should be enough for a full story about the very interesting designs of Belgian gunsmiths, which are simply unknown to most people today.


Armand Etienne's pistol from Liege, disassembled


Trademark of Armand Etienne's company

So, first in line is a certain Armand Etienne from Liege with his 6,35 mm Browning pistol and a 7-round magazine. Equipped with a manual safety on the left rear side and nothing else notable except for the impressive trademark. Arman registered it in 1917, but his company produced the pistol shown in the photo from 1925 to 1932, based on the 1906 Browning pistol.


An absolutely stunning model of a Colt Model 1860 revolver, custom made by Belgian manufacturer Alain Lapierre


Engraving of the cylinder of a Vagar revolver by Pierre Joseph

The 7-mm capsule revolver attributed to Fagard Pierre Joseph is unremarkable except for... the engraving on its cylinder. A theme that would be quite suitable on a hunting rifle, but is hardly appropriate on a weapon such as a revolver. Moreover, no one has ever gone hunting with a seven-millimeter revolver.


Bulldog revolver manufactured by Fungus and Klemet. Six-shot, double action, otherwise completely unremarkable


Revolver manufactured by Falis and Trapmann

There is, perhaps, only one thing original about it: an adjustable hammer striker. Why he was needed like that is unknown.

As for the company, it is known that Francois Louis Falis was responsible for mechanics and applied for patents, and Gustave Trapmann gave money. This revolver was not widely used.


Fliegenschmidt Max revolver of the Smith and Wesson system with a drum for five rounds of 8 mm caliber

The trigger without a trigger guard is slightly curved and retracts into the frame. The revolver frame is opened using a button located in the same way as in the original sample. The trigger is hidden in the body. The handles are made of ebony and are held in place by a central screw.

Interestingly, his front sight is located in the middle of the barrel. This means that this revolver had to be supplied to Austria, where there was a law prohibiting the import of short-barreled revolvers. However, the law did not prohibit owning them. So industrialists came up with the idea of ​​importing revolvers with long barrels. And at that time it was possible to cut the barrel according to the front sight in any weapons workshop and even at home.


August Francotta Webley-Price revolver, double action, .450 caliber


But this revolver with a “cannon barrel” from the A. Fredericks company is a “German Bulldog” type revolver, as indicated by the “Reich Revolver” type safety (1914)

Charles-François Galand's name also begins with "G", and it can be reported that, as a French citizen (1832-1900), he worked in Liege and Paris, and his son René continued his father's work until 1942. Galan himself was a prolific manufacturer of revolvers, civilian and military.

He is primarily known for his revolver, called the "Galand-Sommerville" or "Galand-Perrin", after the large cap cartridge used in many of his revolvers. He is also known as the inventor of the famous "velodog" (registered on April 20, 1904 by Rene Galant), the "Novo" revolver and the "Tu-Tu" revolver.

The Galan revolver (“Galan-Sommerville” or “Galan-Perrin”) is a double-action revolver with an open frame, patented in 1868.


Luxurious Galana revolver

Its main feature was a lever located under the barrel and frame, which also served as a trigger guard. When this lever was used, the barrel and drum moved forward. During movement, the extractor plate is locked and the barrel continues to move forward. Therefore, the cartridges held by the extractor plate fall out of the drum and can be replaced with new cartridges. The lever then moves back into place, the barrel and drum move back, and it closes and locks.

The revolver is called a "Galan-Perrin" when it fires the 7,9mm and especially the 12mm Perrin cartridge. The first examples of this revolver were made in Great Britain at the Birmingham arms factory, which was managed by Brandlin and had its own production of these revolvers, which was a great success.


"Galan-Premier", Type 2

In France, many officers were tempted by this new automatic revolver and began to buy it.

The Russian Imperial Navy adopted the Galan revolver on March 12, 1871 under the name “Boarding revolver pistol of the 1870 model. It should be noted that although the number of ordered copies is not indicated, the revolver was manufactured not only by Galana, but also by N. Vivario Plomber, Varnan and Nagan, and N. I. Goltyakov in Tula.


Galan "Novo" folding revolver, 6,35 mm caliber

But after a series of failures with weapons for the army, Galan switched to the civilian market, and it was there that in 1892/93 he demonstrated his simplest hammerless revolver “Tu-Tu” with an open frame. These weapons were produced until about 1935, mostly in the 8mm 1892 caliber.


The “Tu-Tu” revolver had no protruding trigger, no “Abadi door”, no ramrod... nothing!


The “Tu-Tu” revolver in disassembled form: the cartridge cases were knocked out of the drum on the axis of the drum!


And this Belgian pistol by Armand Gavage was even in service with the German army during the Second World War

A very unusual and, one might even say, funny revolver with a horizontal cylinder. A certain G. Guy de Wottem received a patent for it, but he transferred his patent to H. Genhart from Liege. And he began producing this revolver, and even released a luxury version.

But since it did not have any real advantages over revolvers with a traditional drum arrangement (except that the flame between the drum and the barrel did not hit in all directions when fired), it never gained popularity.


Revolver of H. Genhart. Left view. The hole for the release of gases from the drum during firing and the lever for turning the drum are clearly visible


Revolver of H. Genhart. View of the drum socket and the drum itself


H. Genhart's revolver of clearly pretentious execution


Engraving on the cylinder of a Colt Dragoon revolver, which was produced in Belgium by Jacques Nicolas Gilon. The most interesting thing about this revolver is, of course, the engraving of its cylinder, which depicts a fight between American soldiers armed with revolvers and Indians


Here it is, this engraving on the drum and the name of the engraver who made it...


"Gussens Henri and Fils" - saber-revolver chambered for pin cartridges. A completely unexpected weapon for the mid-XNUMXth century. Well, it would be nice if it were the XNUMXth century, when ax-pistols, six-point pistols, horn pistols were in fashion... However, even at that time, as you can see, there was a lover of such “rarities”!


The handle of a saber pistol. The trigger and hammer are clearly visible. It was most likely simply inconvenient to use such a weapon

In general, what kind of revolvers, and pistols too, were not produced by Belgian gunsmiths with surnames starting with E, F and G.

PS


The author and administration of the site would like to thank Alain Dobres (littlegun.be) for the opportunity to use his materials.

To be continued ...
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  1. +2
    29 October 2023 04: 17
    Good morning!
    Still, the revolver with the classic cylinder arrangement is beautiful. The rest is all from the evil one - a game of the mind or everyone goes crazy in their own way.
    Thank you Vyacheslav Olegovich for the article! Success and prosperity to everyone!!!
  2. +1
    29 October 2023 05: 53
    A classic revolver without any frills or bells and whistles, it is beautiful and easy to use. Regarding the “Bulldogs” and “Velodogs” - these civilian weapons were originally invented to protect postmen (cyclists) from dogs, but then there was a demand for them among the female part of the population. Small in size, small caliber, fit well in a lady's handbag. In the history of the development of small arms, the world has never seen any examples of revolvers and pistols, and how many people have tried themselves as gunsmiths.
    1. +9
      29 October 2023 08: 50
      how many people have tried themselves as gunsmiths

      everyone goes crazy in his own way.

      in the early 80s, when handing over captured revolvers to NOSV, I puzzled over for a long time what the difference was between the 4,2-line Smith & Wesson and the 10,6mm Colt, except for the presence of a heel in the upper part of the rear end of the handle, I even disassembled both. Well, damn it, nothing! Prapor patiently looked at my manipulations with undisguised interest for a long time, then said: “Well, what are your thoughts, “Lobachevsky”? Has the roof gone off yet? It’s all simple - both tapestries were made by artisans on the same street in Karachi, just different brands. Come here, and stomp into your good graces" smile
      1. +8
        29 October 2023 12: 51
        It's simple - both tapestries were made by artisans on the same street in Karachi, just the marks are different.

        Pakistan is one of the world's centers for the production of handicraft weapons. Moreover, they produce both copies of well-known companies and completely unthinkable designs, such as the “minigun” in the first photo. It looks like a heavy machine gun, but the caliber is 20 mm.



        1. +2
          29 October 2023 20: 11
          one of the world's centers for the production of handicraft weapons.

          It's funny that the vice is practically mounted on the floor. How much more accustomed they are to doing everything while sitting cross-legged.
  3. +10
    29 October 2023 08: 43
    An absolutely stunning model of a Colt Model 1860 revolver, custom made by Belgian manufacturer Alain Lapierre

    This model is certainly luxurious. But a certain Alain Lapierre is indirectly related to its production. He ordered this revolver for his birthday. This Alain Lapierre was born on August 15, 1958. The revolver was made by Fabrique d'Armes Unies de Liège (FAUL), judging by the engraver's mark, in 1991.



    The artistic finishing of the pistol was done by the famous Liege engraver Pierre Dôme; this is his mark on the handle.



    And this is Pierre Dôme himself at work.

    The fact that the revolver is a modern copy is indicated on the barrel.



    “CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK” 1960 “NEW MODEL ARMY” - this is how Fabrique d'Armes Unies de Liège marks all its copies of Colt Model 1860 revolvers.
    But who is Alain Lapierre, who ordered such a revolver, is unknown. But, obviously, the man is not poor, since the designer weapon finishing from Pierre Dôme is very expensive.
    1. +7
      29 October 2023 08: 54
      A very interesting addition! Thank you!
      1. +8
        29 October 2023 09: 33
        A very interesting addition! Thank you!

        Based on your article, I can write two more - with additions.
        1. +4
          29 October 2023 12: 01
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          Based on your article, I can write two more - with additions.

          Can! But is it necessary? You can go deep... very deep. Until then, everyone will simply be uninterested except for 1-2 eccentrics.
          1. +7
            29 October 2023 12: 17
            Can! But is it necessary?

            It depends on how you look. I didn't mean volume, but content. Naturally, it is not worth overloading the review article with calibers, weights, dimensions and descriptions of the interaction of parts and mechanisms when firing. But the technical features, the “highlights” of the design, will not be superfluous. As well as the history of creation, if it contains some interesting facts.
  4. +2
    29 October 2023 09: 13
    Where is our certified museum gunsmith? Isn't he still asleep? Konstantin can tell a lot of interesting things on this topic.
    1. +4
      29 October 2023 10: 07
      Isn't he still asleep?
      1. He's probably already asleep.
      2. In general, Uncle Kostya was banned again for 3 months.
      1. +5
        29 October 2023 10: 36
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        In general, Uncle Kostya was banned again for 3 months.

        About how!
        Did you swear?
        1. +6
          29 October 2023 10: 39
          Posted some "funny pictures".
          1. +4
            29 October 2023 10: 52
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Posted some "funny pictures".

            With women, cats or dogs?
            1. +6
              29 October 2023 10: 57
              With tanks and scuba gear! laughing
              With women, of course.
              1. +4
                29 October 2023 11: 27
                With women, of course.

                It seems like there haven’t been any topics suitable for posting nudes on the site lately. Or did I miss something?
                1. +5
                  29 October 2023 11: 39
                  Do the hussars really need a topic to talk about women?
                2. +4
                  29 October 2023 11: 49
                  There was a relatively loud discussion in the Shchors thread. But maybe there was something going on at the same time.

                  The punitive hand of the administration left no trace. Maybe in Konstantin’s personal messages.
                  1. +6
                    29 October 2023 12: 21
                    It might make sense to write a collective letter to the moderators about his rehabilitation or mitigation of his sentence. Should I get bail or collect some kind of bail in the end? It was as if a bag of troubles had burst over a person - misfortunes fell one after another
                    1. +7
                      29 October 2023 12: 46
                      Moderators have nothing to do with it; the decision to ban is made by administrators.
                      Don’t worry so much, Dmitry, your uncle will not be left without communication, we invited him to join our company.
              2. +5
                29 October 2023 15: 04
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                With tanks and scuba gear! laughing
                With women, of course.

                This is normal!
                Respect and respect to Uncle Kostya!!!
                The one who banned, let them envy in silence!!!
                1. +2
                  29 October 2023 17: 37
                  The one who banned, let them envy in silence!!!
                  Be careful, Vlad, be careful! Everything has changed a lot since the end of 2018...
  5. +5
    29 October 2023 09: 16
    The 7-mm capsule revolver attributed to Fagard Pierre Joseph is unremarkable except for... the engraving on its cylinder.

    The engraving on the cylinder is not at all the main thing in this revolver. The main thing is its design, which is very remarkable; you just need to look at the revolver from a different perspective.



    The photograph clearly shows the original revolver locking mechanism, which was developed and patented by Joseph Fagard of St Remy Liege.
    The lever operates a cam that provides a strong, secure fit. The mechanism allows you to open the frame by simply turning the lever very quickly and change the drum. The same Colt in this regard was much inferior to Fagard’s revolver.



    Therefore, Joseph Fagard revolvers were popular. Among other things, they were distinguished by their high quality of workmanship.

  6. +6
    29 October 2023 10: 01
    Revolver manufactured by Falis and Trapmann

    There is, perhaps, only one thing original about it: an adjustable hammer striker. Why he was needed like that is unknown.




    There is a lot of originality in this revolver. And “why it is needed” is also known - it’s a fuse.
    First of all, it is very rare. Perhaps there is a single copy.
    Secondly, this is a conversion from a hairpin revolver. Such alterations are extremely rare.
    And thirdly, as already mentioned, it has a unique safety mechanism. Using a screw, the hammer was retracted into the trigger body. After this, it was impossible to fire an accidental shot.
    1. +4
      29 October 2023 13: 34
      Using a screw, the hammer was retracted into the trigger body.

      Judging by the photo, the striker impact vector is not perpendicular to the primer. M.b. this is the key to the screw feed of the striker, and in fact the screw performs an adjustment function? The thread pitch can clarify a lot of things. With a small step, the transfer to the combat position and back will be too long. There are three options:
      1) there is no thread, but there are two bayonet positions, with front and rear locking.
      2) The thread pitch is small, and the screw serves as an adjustment for piercing different types of capsules - along the edge or in the center. In this case, it must also have a fixing screw, but the fuse function is not provided.
      3) the screw rotates only 180 degrees, but the end of the striker is asymmetrical relative to the thread axis.
      The latter option is unlikely, because it requires fixing the angular position of the rotation.
      1. +4
        29 October 2023 14: 12
        Thread pitch can clarify a lot

        There is no information on the thread pitch.
        The thread pitch is fine, and the screw serves as an adjustment for punching different types of capsules - along the edge or in the center.

        Judging by the description of this drawing, for the use of rimfire cartridges, an additional part is provided, shown in Fig. 11 called a “fork”

        However, French is not my strong point. You can see for yourself.
        http://fr.1001mags.com/parution/gazette-des-armes/numero-399-juin-2008/page-52-53-texte-integral
  7. 0
    29 October 2023 16: 01
    And at that time it was possible to cut the barrel according to the front sight in any weapons workshop and even at home.
    After such a home circumcision, one could probably forget about accuracy?
    1. +1
      29 October 2023 20: 27
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      could you forget?

      I can't say anything. But if they did this, then there was some meaning?
  8. +2
    29 October 2023 19: 09
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, I was interested in the revolver: Galan, it’s very beautiful
    I would hang it on the wall
    1. +3
      29 October 2023 20: 09
      Well, what's the point of hanging on the wall? The thing must be useful. Brass knuckles, for example, are still relevant in the current millennium.
    2. +1
      29 October 2023 20: 13
      “Tu-Tu” is also beautiful in its own way, with its minimalism.
    3. +2
      29 October 2023 20: 15
      The Galan revolver is very beautiful. I would hang it on the wall

      Beauty is a concept that is difficult to explain; I accidentally glanced at it, something clicked, and was already firmly lodged in the subconscious. I enlarged Sergei Korotkov’s expedition photograph “Morning Fog over a Forest River” in a printing house on a non-woven basis, framed it and hung it above my desk. I look at her and my heart rests. It seems there is nothing special there, but it touches some strings of the soul.
      Good evening, Vera.
    4. +2
      29 October 2023 20: 28
      Quote: Astra wild2
      very beautiful

      There are many beautiful revolvers... You can’t count them!
      1. +3
        29 October 2023 20: 33
        Still, each individual sorts beauty according to his taste. There is no universal beauty for everyone.
        How about N. Zabolotsky:
        And if this is so, then what is beauty
        And why do people deify her?
        The vessel is it, in which there is emptiness,
        Or a fire flickering in a vessel? (With)
        1. +2
          29 October 2023 22: 28
          each individual sorts beauty according to his taste.

          In relation to a person, a formula is possible: beauty is a promise of character. For each perceiving character it is different, and most likely not identical to it, but complementary. In the case of weapons, it is rather an image of the ideal self. In painting it is the dominant mood in a given period of life.
          1. 0
            30 October 2023 18: 05
            The way you phrased it well. good I couldn't do that. Thank you!
  9. Lad
    +2
    29 October 2023 19: 35
    Quote from Frettaskyrandi
    description of the interaction of parts and mechanisms when fired

    But it would be interesting to read a separate article on this topic.
    1. +2
      29 October 2023 20: 29
      Quote: Lad
      But it would be interesting to read a separate article on this topic.

      It is still known. On the Internet, all three main automation schemes (and sub-basic ones) have long been drawn and are even moving...
      1. +1
        29 October 2023 20: 52
        By the way, Caliber, this morning you regretted that you couldn’t find photos of Rajput armor from the 15th-17th centuries. I spent a long time remembering where I could see them. I have not been to India. I remembered - in our Hermitage!!! He has a large collection of them. I posted some photos an hour ago in your article yesterday “Different destinies. Sow an action... reap a destiny!”
        PS. and at the same time photos of their distinctive class brooches "Rajput cockades"
        If you're curious, take a look.
        1. +2
          29 October 2023 22: 20
          Quote: Richard
          in our Hermitage!!!

          Photos of Indian armor from the Hermitage have already been sent to me. Thank you!
        2. +2
          29 October 2023 22: 24
          Quote: Richard
          If you're curious, take a look.

          Of course it's interesting. I watched. Very beautiful and interesting photographs. I wrote in response that it’s time for you to write material about the Rajputs as a response...
          1. 0
            30 October 2023 13: 22
            No, I posted them especially for you - maybe they will be useful for future books or articles. The State Hermitage website has many photographs of Rajput armor from its collection.
  10. 0
    29 October 2023 21: 39
    Lost one of the famous Griswold & Gunnison revolvers

    Griswold and Gunnison
    1. +1
      29 October 2023 22: 19
      Quote: Boniface
      Lost one of the famous Griswold & Gunnison revolvers

      Griswold and Gunnison

      In my opinion, I gave it in a series of articles about revolvers of the American Civil War. I didn’t see him among the “Belgians”.
      1. +2
        30 October 2023 13: 35
        I didn’t see him among the “Belgians”.

        It would be surprising if you saw - this is an American company. Founders: Samuel Griswold and Arvin Nye Gunnison. The revolver is a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy, only the frame is made of brass due to the shortage of steel and the cylinder is made of handcrafted forging.
  11. 0
    2 November 2023 19: 49
    An article of this kind, supplemented with visual material, is an excellent treatment. I would also like to read the discussion under the article. often it’s really interesting and it’s clear that many of you know exactly everything that interests me. First of all, friends, thank you all am