The best tank of the Israeli army

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The best tank of the Israeli army

Every war gives birth to its own symbols.

The winning side was placed on a pedestal weapon and equipment that made a significant contribution to the victory. Cult objects were rarely perfect. Their main merit was that they appeared at the right time. And their technical appearance corresponded as closely as possible to the concept of the army in which this equipment was used.



For us, the T-34 is such an iron symbol.

In other countries, preference is given to ships and aviation.

In Israel, where wars for the most part were also fought on land, they treat with great respect tank Centurion.

The Centurion medium/heavy tank was developed in England back in 1944. Some Western historians consider it the main battle tank of the early generation. An overly controversial statement. But the triad of combat qualities (thoughtful protection, high mobility and firepower) pointed to its special purpose.

Tanks of this type have been used in many conflicts and have served under different flags around the world. Europe, Africa, Middle East.

The finest hour for the Israeli Centurions was the Yom Kippur War (1973).

Mysticism or coincidence? The mention of “Doomsday” only strengthened the menacing motive. Exactly half a century ago, one of the most brutal Arab-Israeli wars broke out, literally putting Israel on the brink of survival.

A coalition of Arab states planned to take revenge for the defeat in the Six-Day War. Everyone was determined. The enemy was taken by surprise.

The all-seeing Mossad and AMAN (military intelligence) did not notice the accumulation of troops along the borders. The fearless Khel Haavir (air force) found themselves paralyzed by new air defense systems.

The last hope for Israel was its armored fists, which consisted of a third of Centurion-type tanks.

And among those Israeli tanks that were considered the most modern, the share of Centurions increased to 50%.

The Legend of a Thousand Tanks


The situation in the Golan Heights took a desperate turn in the first hours of the war. Here a group of five Syrian divisions struck (2 tank and 3 mechanized - four-brigade, also including armored vehicles).

The distance from the Syrian-Israeli border to Tel Aviv was about 100 kilometers. If the remnants of the Israeli units were dropped from the Golan Heights, this would open the way to the valley. With the establishment of crossings across the Jordan, there was a threat of an operational breakthrough by tank “wedges” - straight to the Israeli capital. Checkmate!

Subsequently, the battle in the Golan was thoroughly studied by military experts. There are discrepancies in the number of losses of the parties. Nevertheless, the general course of the conflict and its results are beyond doubt. The Israelis managed to stop the advance.

Then legends in the spirit of “300 Spartans” were born. And each subsequent version contained more and more exaggerations. A unique victory was won in conditions of overwhelming numerical superiority of the enemy. And only people with superhuman skills could cope in such a situation.

The mind of a grandmaster and a lightning-fast reaction to a threat: shot, shot - and the Israeli tank single-handedly crushed the battalions!

The high professionalism of the IDF has become an axiom. And even the most ardent skeptics admitted deep down that the Arabs were opposed by not the most ordinary and unexpectedly strong army.

Everything changed in 2023 with the advent of “objective control means.” A clear demonstration of the skills of Israeli tank crews, filmed using ubiquitous drones, has raised questions even among Israel's most devoted supporters.

This is not what was expected from “professionals”.


This Merkava stood carelessly in the open for an hour. The enemy managed to examine the stationary tank from all sides, rejoiced at his luck, and a smoky trail of ATGMs stretched towards the Merkava. Whether he broke through or not is a separate question. But if a tank allows itself to be shot with impunity, then no means of defense will help it.

Returning to the events of 1973, the “miracle in the Golan” had a completely rational explanation. The Israelis faced the most inept enemy of any army on the Eurasian continent. Neglect of preparation and weak motivation are at the level of empty slogans behind which there was no desire to fight and win.

And there was something else. The Israelis did not fight off tank attacks with their bare hands.

Seven hundred Centurions rolled out onto the dusty plateau...

Critics will argue that the Centurions did not all arrive at once. In turn, Syrian armored vehicles also advanced in two echelons and were introduced into battle gradually.

The Syrian T-54/55 was opposed by the most advanced modification of the English Centurion tank, known under the designation Shot Kal.

The Israeli side had some technical superiority, which veterans of the battle in the Golan prefer to keep silent about.

"Whip" with Continental diesel engine


In the dry and hot desert, covered with a scattering of stone blocks, the Centurion became the king of the off-road. The reason for this was two factors.

The first is the presence of a hydromechanical double-flow transmission and rotation mechanism. In the understanding of the average person, this meant the presence of an automatic transmission, which greatly simplified maneuvers and control of the tank in difficult conditions.

The second factor was the archaic, but not without its merits, Hortsmann suspension. The resulting loads when hitting an obstacle are smoothly distributed between a pair of rollers connected by a common spring. Exactly the quality required on the rocky slopes of the Golan.

All suspension elements were fixed externally, which also simplified its maintenance and repair in the field.

Having climbed a steep slope, the Centurion could observe and shoot opponents as if in a shooting range. Using an interesting feature inherent in its design - the gun barrel could be lowered down by 10°.

In battle, the Shot Kal did not spare shells - its ammunition load consisted of 70 rounds of 105 mm caliber (for comparison: the T-54/55 ammunition included only 34 shells).

The floor of the fighting compartment rotating together with the turret allowed the loader of the Israeli tank not to run in a circle, but to concentrate on his work. At the same time, he stood to the left of the cannon and fed shells with his right hand.

The T-54/55 loader's place, on the contrary, was on the right side of the turret, and the entire load fell on his left hand (whereas most people are right-handed).

Israeli tank crews immediately drew attention to such moments, noting them in their memoirs.


The Centurions' hits created a deafening effect. In a tank battle in the Golan, armor-piercing land mines were actively used for the last time (!).

This type of ammunition was developed in Great Britain back in the late 1940s and initially made a strong impression. Displacing all other types of armor-piercing shells. One of the advantages was shooting at distances exceeding the range of a direct shot. Where ordinary “armor-piercing guns” lost speed and lost their penetrating qualities.

The landmine was also difficult. At first, a “blot” of 5–6 kilograms of plastic explosive appeared on the armor. Another moment later, the detonation of the explosive created a specific pressure of tens of tons per square centimeter of armor. In an era when tanks were not yet equipped with combined protection, this led to the destruction of the rear side of the armor and damage to the crew and internal equipment of the tank by fragments.

Such shaking and broken pieces of metal posed a particular threat to the T-54/55, where there could be ammunition inside just behind the armor.


It is worth noting that as of 1973, the potential of tank guns significantly exceeded any protection created using traditional homogeneous armor.

The figures have long been declassified and have become the property of historians. The illustration shows the characteristics of the 3BM8 armor-piercing sub-caliber projectile of 100 mm caliber. Such shells have been included in the ammunition load of T-54/55 tanks since the mid-1960s.


"Centurion" made its way head-on from a distance of a kilometer.

A similar threat to the T-54/55 was posed by British L28 or L36 sub-caliber shells, capable of penetrating 120 mm of armor at an angle of 60° at a distance of 1 yards (000 m).

The fragile “parity” was violated by the more modern T-62 tanks, which were available to the Syrian Guard. The Molot smoothbore cannon penetrated the Centurion in any place and from any distance at which tank duels were supposed to be fought. This humiliating fact was repeatedly noted by the Israeli tank crews themselves.

When armor ceased to be a guarantee of protection. When every hit meant a breakthrough. At such moments, everything began to depend on more subtle patterns...

Nine lives of "Centurion"


The losses of personnel were paradoxically high, given the number of destroyed tanks.

According to official IDF data, the bulk of losses were accounted for by tank forces (about 40%). According to the most conservative estimates, over 4 tank crews were injured, including 000 irretrievable losses. Excluding rear services - their losses were recorded separately.

Of course, Arabic sources give many times more meaning.

Now let's turn to the hardware.

Israel estimated its losses at 400 completely destroyed tanks. But that's only half stories.

Equipment losses always depend on the situation: which army is left with the battlefield, and which army can evacuate damaged tanks from it. In total, according to the IDF, at the end of hostilities, the Israelis managed to evacuate and return to service about 400 more tanks - from among those that were previously part of the Israeli army. Trophies were recorded separately.

400 shot down and abandoned "Shot", "Mag" and "Super Sherman". Among which were both tanks with minor damage and completely destroyed vehicles. They tried to hide the fact of their destruction from the public.

All this is in addition to the 400 completely destroyed (officially).

400 + 400 = 800. This value is much closer to the truth.

We are unlikely to know the exact numbers. But it is worth noting that real losses could not differ significantly from the official values. For a simple reason. By the beginning of the war, Israel had 2 tanks, even taking into account the Shermans and captured T-000s. If all the tanks (or almost all) had been lost, the results of that war would have been different.

Moreover, even the figure of 1 destroyed tanks does not explain the number of casualties among personnel.

The Israelis explain this paradox by the fact that the Centurions’ crew “changed” several times during the battle...

The Centurion's amazing survivability was the result of many factors.

First of all, due to the weak (insufficient) armor-piercing impact of armor-piercing sub-caliber projectiles.

The 3BM8 shell contained exactly 0 grams of explosive. For comparison, its predecessor, the slow-witted “armor-piercing” with a ballistic tip 53-BR-412, contained 65 grams of explosives. It makes no sense to make comparisons in terms of armor penetration, but the difference in armor penetration is obvious.

Apparently, a hole of a dozen centimeters was not a reason for the 50-ton colossus to fall apart. The crew is beyond envy. Otherwise, the tank underwent ersatz repairs and returned to service.

Another point was related to the layout of the “Shot Kal”. Its ammunition was placed differently than in Soviet tanks.


The Centurion's ammunition was located in the front of the hull, as well as on the floor of the fighting compartment. By the middle of the battle, only shells remained in the lower stack. Which significantly reduced the likelihood of ammunition damage. After all, the bulk of hits fell on the turret and the upper part of the hull.

The presence of shells on the floor of the fighting compartment did not bode well when hitting a mine. However, the creators of Centurion took care of this too.

One of the first in the world, the Centurion received a v-shaped hull with inclined sides, which increased its resistance to explosions under the bottom.

For the Syrian infantry, the Centurion also proved to be a difficult target.

The main anti-tank weapons of the infantry were rocket-propelled grenade launchers. In turn, the Centurion tanks were distinguished by the presence of large-area anti-cumulative screens that completely hid their sides. And these are not simple decorations. Steel plates 6 mm thick - fixed at a distance of half a meter from the body.


Firing an RPG at the front of a tank was made more difficult by the fact that it was the front of a tank. Where the views of the crew members were most often directed, along with the cannon and machine gun.

A very shameful drawback of the Centurion was the lack of night vision devices. A difficult situation to imagine by the standards of the 1970s. For a tank that was considered the backbone of armored forces.

At that time, night vision devices, active and passive, for the gunner and driver, were already widely used on tanks around the world. Israel, militarized to the limit, turned out to be an outsider here.

The discussion about night vision devices will be brief. The Syrians were unable to use their trump card, because the presence of standard night vision devices on the T-54/55 and T-62 did not affect the outcome of the hostilities.

Not enough attention has been paid to planning operations in the dark. Or the generals knew for sure that the personnel of the tank brigades were not ready to use night vision devices and conduct combat operations at night.

The Israelis, on the other hand, were aware of this threat. And they made the only possible decision. Retreat? The commander of the 7th Tank Brigade, Janusz Ben-Gal, ordered everyone to freeze in place and shoot at moving silhouettes in the night.

By morning the 7th Tank Brigade ceased to exist. Of the 105 Centurions, 98 were shot down. The front line did not budge.

Heirs of the Tigers and Panthers


When talking about the events of 1973, Israelis strike a sad note. After all, they had to fight on outdated tanks from World War II against the “modern” T-54/55 and ultra-modern T-62.

The Centurion tank was actually conceived and designed at the end of World War II, inspired by the German “menagerie”. He even received the unofficial nickname "British Panther". But this is only the beginning of the story.

The tank had impressive potential for upgrades. And this circumstance made it possible to create quite modern technology on its basis for the early 1970s.

The Israelis purchased only the 5th and 7th series Centurions. Which were similar to the first Centurion in the same way that the modern Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 is similar to the Abrams of the 1980 model.

No mention of 76 mm or 83 mm guns - all Israeli Centurions were routinely armed with the 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7 cannon. A well-known weapon that was equipped with all Western tanks of the 1960s and 1970s. From the American M60 to the German Leopard and the Swedish Strv.103.

A gun of this type was even installed on the first Abrams.


In the early 1970s, Israel carried out extensive modernization of the Centurions. Each component of the tank has undergone dramatic changes. Observation devices, a radio station, replacement of a machine gun, ammunition rack and fuel supply... The most important thing was the transition to an American diesel engine produced by Continental Motors, which added power, reduced the likelihood of fire and, most importantly, it was paired with an automatic transmission. In terms of power density (15 hp/t), the modernized tank weighing 50 tons is equal to the 36-ton T-54/55.

With the presence of competent and timeless solutions regarding the ergonomics of the fighting compartment, the Centurion-Shot or Shot Kal turned into a qualitatively new tank.

Harsh equipment for local massacres


Apparently, the legends about the “Centurions” surviving a hit from the D-10T cannon have a basis in reality.

Centurion Shot tanks took an active part in all subsequent wars, including large-scale operations in Lebanon in 1982. Many have survived to this day - as a chassis for heavy armored personnel carriers "Nagmashot", "Nagmahon", "Nakpadon".

It is worth noting that after 1973 there were no more purchases of British tanks. The creation of its own Merkava has begun in Israel.

The list of advantages of the Centurion-Shot tanks may seem illusory against the background of the real advantages of the T-54/55 family of tanks.

14 tons less weight – equal level of protection for the fighting compartment. Modern torsion bar suspension. Night-vision devices.


Even in the West they do not risk denying the obvious. Any discussion about the confrontation between the T-54/55 and the Centurions contains mandatory notification. The effectiveness and results depended on the tactics of using these tanks, as well as on the skills of their crews.

Having read the title “The Best Tanks of Israel,” many probably expected to come across a story about the Merkava. Alas.

Modern Merkava-4, for all its advantages, have never been in situations comparable in scale and significance to the tank battles of 1973.


Finally, a shot of a heavy armored personnel carrier “Puma” with a much-needed “visor” in our time (Gaza border, 2023). The familiar side screen and three pairs of articulated rollers, behind which one can guess... the Centurion tank.

The armored personnel carrier does not have a stern ramp; landings are carried out through hatches on the roof of the hull. On the other hand, the Puma does not perform the tasks of “ordinary” armored personnel carriers. Such vehicles are designed to transport equipment and personnel of engineering units.
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  1. +1
    8 November 2023 04: 21
    This type of ammunition was developed in Great Britain back in the late 1940s and initially made a strong impression.
    And even now it is in the Challenger BC, although its effectiveness against tank armor is questionable. However, the 165 mm ammo cartridges of British and US engineering tanks had only such shells.
    1. +2
      8 November 2023 10: 53
      Well, 165mm.
      The main thing is to get there, and then the tank will be of little combat effectiveness, the attachment will blow away, the cylinder will jam, and the triplexes will be trashed.
  2. +4
    8 November 2023 05: 23
    Many thanks to Oleg (Author)!
    From Siatya.
    Finally, a shot of a heavy armored personnel carrier “Puma” with a much-needed “visor” in our time (Gaza border, 2023). The familiar side screen and three pairs of articulated rollers, behind which one can guess... the Centurion tank.


    But we never finished our BTR-T based on the T-55.

    All the good days!
    1. +7
      8 November 2023 07: 48
      Files of the “wrong system”...
      And a complete lack of ideas for using such machines.
      Or throw them into a frontal attack.
      Or carry engineering connections on them.
      Since 1997 they have been thinking about it and can’t come up with it...
      1. -2
        8 November 2023 08: 17
        Files of the “wrong system”...

        Armored personnel carrier weighing 30-40 tons, too expensive
        Fuel consumption is higher and transportation costs are higher. Extra expenses for converting a tank into an armored personnel carrier, when there are tens of thousands of such vehicles, MT-LB, etc., in the army and in storage.
        1. +3
          8 November 2023 10: 40
          Too expensive for.....
          The IDF is “presented” to us as an example.
          Here they have it.
          Only theirs.
          1. 0
            8 November 2023 11: 48
            Only theirs.

            Yes, only they massively use such armored personnel carriers on tank chassis

            Fact is a stubborn thing
            1. 0
              24 December 2023 08: 33
              Quote: Santa Fe
              Only theirs.

              Yes, only they massively use such armored personnel carriers on tank chassis

              Fact is a stubborn thing

              With modern means of destroying armored personnel carriers, all these heavy armored personnel carriers on a tank base are a very controversial thing. They will hit them with everything that is available. So it's the same mass grave.
        2. +6
          8 November 2023 11: 50
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Files of the “wrong system”...

          Armored personnel carrier weighing 30-40 tons, too expensive
          Fuel consumption is higher and transportation costs are higher. Extra expenses for converting a tank into an armored personnel carrier, when there are tens of thousands of such vehicles, MT-LB, etc., in the army and in storage.

          Omsk residents were unable to resolve the issue with the ramp in the rear of the BTR-T. The Israeli Azakhat based on the T-54 (T-55) does not have this drawback.
          I won’t even compare the cardboard Motolyga and the ersatz based on the T-55. By the way, the weight of the turret - the T-55 in the BMP (armored personnel carrier) version - will more than make it possible to strengthen the armor all around and from the top. In my opinion, the BTR-T could make a good crew vehicle for towed artillery and drones. “54” can easily carry 120 mm mortars or a mortar gun from Nona.
          1. 0
            8 November 2023 12: 06
            The Israeli Azakhat based on the T-54 (T-55) does not have this drawback.

            The IDF uses different versions of armored personnel carriers on a tank chassis, with and without a ramp

            Of course, it is safer for the landing party to dismount through the stern than through the hatches in the roof - and cross the roof of the MTO under fire in order to jump to the ground

            Therefore, armored personnel carriers without a ramp are used differently (at least in theory)
            In my opinion, the BTR-T could make a good crew vehicle for towed artillery and drones.

            There in the army they talk about the same
          2. +2
            8 November 2023 17: 30
            Who will give Omsk residents a new, powerful, compact diesel engine?
            In order to rearrange the internal contents of the T-55 hull and build a landing exit back.
        3. +4
          8 November 2023 12: 18
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Armored personnel carrier weighing 30-40 tons, too expensive

          Of course, people are much cheaper, but you can give birth to them almost for free. am
          1. +1
            8 November 2023 12: 52
            Of course, people are much cheaper, but you can give birth to them almost for free.

            This is already philosophy and Manilovism

            If those at the top valued every life of their wards so much, they would not have started a war, never at all

            Each country's armed forces have a specific budget. Israel has too much money for their small army, hence the good equipment
            1. 0
              8 November 2023 15: 01
              Quote: Santa Fe
              If those at the top valued every life of their wards so much, they would not have started a war, never at all

              A strange argument... War is a continuation of politics, only by different methods. Therefore, if you want peace, prepare for war. Sometimes it happens that you have to fight, no matter how much you want it.
        4. Alf
          +2
          8 November 2023 19: 07
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Files of the “wrong system”...

          Armored personnel carrier weighing 30-40 tons, too expensive
          Fuel consumption is higher and transportation costs are higher. Extra expenses for converting a tank into an armored personnel carrier, when there are tens of thousands of such vehicles, MT-LB, etc., in the army and in storage.

          Compare armor thicknesses.
        5. 0
          8 November 2023 20: 13
          Quote: Santa Fe
          The 3BM8 shell contained exactly 0 grams of explosive.

          hi
          Without BB?!
          1. Alf
            0
            8 November 2023 21: 50
            Quote: Mister X
            Quote: Santa Fe
            The 3BM8 shell contained exactly 0 grams of explosive.

            hi
            Without BB?!

  3. +10
    8 November 2023 08: 20
    Centurion by Centurion. But the main reason for the defeat of the Arab tank formations was the unpreparedness of the crews and the weakness of the command staff. For the Jews it was the other way around, plus perseverance in battle. Given equal conditions of preparedness, the Arab 54s would have crushed the IDF even simply due to numerical superiority. The Jews were saved by steadfastness, but the Arabs were let down by laxity.
    1. +8
      8 November 2023 17: 48
      The motivation was very different.
      Jews have an instinct of self-preservation. They simply had no other option, they fought to save the state and their loved ones, they simply had nowhere to retreat.
      The Arabs have the personal ambitions of their leaders. Not everyone from the lower ranks of their armies shared these ambitions enough to risk their lives for it. Sometimes they write that they fought cowardly; in fact, they simply did not believe that they should risk their lives to prevent the existence of the state of Israel.
      1. Alf
        0
        8 November 2023 19: 09
        Quote from solar
        Jews have an instinct of self-preservation. They simply had no other option, they fought to save the state and their loved ones, they simply had nowhere to retreat.

        good
  4. 0
    8 November 2023 10: 51
    Screenshots from the toy are solid!
    1. Alf
      0
      8 November 2023 19: 11
      Quote: pettabyte
      Screenshots from the toy are solid!

      In which place ?
  5. 0
    8 November 2023 11: 01
    Firing an RPG at the front of a tank was made more difficult by the fact that it was the front of a tank.

    Firing from an RPG was also made more difficult by the fact that they had to shoot from an RPG.
  6. -2
    8 November 2023 11: 33
    In fact, the “Centurion” is a good illustration of the fact that, overall, a good machine can be “legendary” and “great” if it had a chance to fight with poorly prepared opponents, who even had good equipment.
  7. -1
    8 November 2023 11: 39
    The crews of most Israeli tanks consisted of 4 people. If about 1000 tanks are lost (about 400 of them are irretrievable), then all of them account for 4000 tankers (1300x200+2700x300).
    1. +2
      8 November 2023 11: 54
      If about 1000 tanks are lost

      As seen in footage of the war in Ukraine, the crew of destroyed tanks In many cases manages to leave the burning car, partially or all together

      Think that each a damaged tank = always 100% loss of crew, this is not observed in fact

      Of the abandoned and later evacuated tanks, some could have broken down for those reasons or gotten stuck off-road, the everyday life of any war. In all these cases the crew could not have been harmed

      Therefore, the question of the reasons for the high losses remains open (however, the IDF answered it in his own way - some of the destroyed tanks were quickly returned to service)
  8. +3
    8 November 2023 11: 55
    Having climbed a steep slope, the Centurion could observe and shoot opponents as if in a shooting range. Using an interesting feature inherent in its design - the gun barrel could be lowered down by 10°.

    Hmm, the strangest description of tanks firing from prepared positions, where the enemy, if he saw the Centurion, was only part of the turret.
    1. +2
      8 November 2023 15: 14
      Quote: Wildcat
      Having climbed a steep slope, the Centurion could observe and shoot opponents as if in a shooting range. Using an interesting feature inherent in its design - the gun barrel could be lowered down by 10°

      During the Second World War, the Germans, when conducting defense, installed their tanks at the bottom of the reverse slope of the defended height. When Soviet tanks fell over the top and rushed down, they exposed either the lower or upper armor plates to unfavorable angles and were easily hit by German tank crews. The German tanks themselves behind the reverse slope were invisible to both Soviet tank crews and artillery spotters. It happened like this - during an attack, our tanks hid behind the reverse slope of the heights, and then no one left the battle. Their burnt carcasses were already discovered after reaching heights. Alexey Isaev described this in his books about the Second World War.
    2. +4
      8 November 2023 16: 55
      It is clear that it is not clear about shooting from cover.
      It’s better, of course, to read something about Zvi Gringold, but for general development a movie will do.


      https://youtu.be/IkDvHUrbHcc?si=Pi8VMGu0UbYOZrHN

      The centurion, by the way, is real, from the reserve. Note to riveters - the base of the EZ was not cut off... and there are a few more greetings from the future.
      1. Alf
        +1
        8 November 2023 19: 18
        Quote: Wildcat
        a movie will do.

        What kind of movie? Fiction or documentary?
        1. +4
          8 November 2023 21: 46
          This is the Israeli series "Shaat Ne'ila": "Valley of Tears (Hebrew: עֵמֶק הַבָּכָא, Emek HaBakha), (Series original name: Hebrew: שְׁעַת נְעִילָה, Sha'at Ne'ila – meaning "the hour of Ne'ila)" " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Tears_(TV_series)
          There is a dub in Russian, you can find it through Yandex.

          The series is not a documentary. But, as the Israelis write, the plot is qualitatively “cobbled together” from several real stories of real units (tankers in the Golan, a surrounded electronic wiretapping post on Hemron, etc.), and is “deduced” in the form of fictional stories.
          About authenticity - in discussions with Israelis I saw comments that eyewitnesses said “it happened” and at the right moments the tank crews shouted the command “Fire/Ash!”
          About unreliability - One cent, there are computer graphics, “later” shells, etc.
          Plus there is one more thing - there is a part of the “internal social history of Israel in the 1970s” that is not very clear out of context (but these lines are easy to “fast forward”).
          Overall, I recommend watching it if you have time.
          1. Alf
            +2
            8 November 2023 21: 52
            Quote: Wildcat
            Overall, I recommend watching it if you have time.

            Thank you, I’ll definitely watch it, Israeli films about war are very rare!
          2. Alf
            +2
            8 November 2023 21: 55
            Quote: Wildcat
            Overall, I recommend watching it

            It turned out that it is available on Rutrekker in digital form and with a normal translation. Thank you !
            1. +3
              9 November 2023 10: 18
              A documentary film with terrible computer graphics, but with interviews with eyewitnesses and real filming. Subtitles can be translated automatically.

              https://youtu.be/dmWKTZIWyIs?t=2233
  9. 0
    8 November 2023 15: 44
    Quote: Santa Fe
    As can be seen in the footage of the war in Ukraine, the crew of damaged tanks in many cases manage to leave the burning vehicle, partially or all together


    This is also known from the results of the Second World War. Many tankers replaced damaged tanks several times during the war. This is logical, because it is the tank that serves to shelter the crew from fire, and not vice versa.
  10. 0
    8 November 2023 18: 36
    “The Centurion made its way head-on from a distance of a kilometer.
    A similar threat to the T-54/55 was posed by British L28 or L36 sub-caliber shells, capable of penetrating 120 mm of armor at an angle of 60° at a distance of 1 yards (000 m).

    Both the Centurion and the T-55 pierced each other in the forehead from any reasonable distance for a tank battle (2-3 km) with a SUB-CALIBER projectile. This can be seen from the graph. The author’s conclusions above were taken out of thin air.
  11. +5
    8 November 2023 23: 07
    The floor of the fighting compartment rotating together with the turret allowed the loader of the Israeli tank not to run in a circle, but to concentrate on his work. ......
    A strange remark, as if our tanks had something different. The pole rotating together with the turret was already on our T-35 developed in 1932, and was originally on the T54-55-62.

    "..... At the same time, he stood to the left of the cannon and fed shells with his right hand.
    The T-54/55 loader’s place, on the contrary, was on the right side of the turret, and the entire load fell on his left hand (while most people are right-handed)...”

    Absolutely, not essential, a matter of habit. Once at the training ground, while zeroing a gun (T-62), he took the place of the loader and loaded several shells. I am a driver-mechanic, right-handed, I was doing a job that was not usual for me, but I did not experience any inconvenience when loading. You need to practice cocking the bolt wedge, which is required for the first shot. With some practice, it was cocked with both the left and right hand (the right hand was more convenient, but not because it was stronger; the stand itself allowed you to work not with your hand, but with your body).
  12. 0
    9 November 2023 04: 43
    Veterans prefer to quickly keep silent. It would be better if they told it slowly
  13. +1
    9 November 2023 14: 27
    BC T-55 - 43 rounds. The fighting compartment floor is rotating. The entire ammunition compartment, with the exception of 2 or 3 shells (I don’t remember exactly), is located in the housing: tank rack + rear ammunition rack. When loading an artillery round, the shell is placed on the right hand (the stronger one), and the cartridge case is in the left. The HE and HEAT shells are heavier than the cartridge case, i.e. theoretically easier to load from the right side. In practice, the rate of fire depends on the training of the loader, gunner and tank commander, and when firing on the move, also on the driver’s mechanics..
  14. MSN
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    9 November 2023 22: 10
    And there was something else. The Israelis did not fight off tank attacks with their bare hands.

    Seven hundred Centurions rolled out onto the dusty plateau...

    What is it about? On the "mountain plateau" there were 182 Centurions of two Israeli tank brigades. 7 tbr and 188 tbr. That's all. And only in the first wave of the attacking three infantry divisions with attached tank brigades to Syria there were up to 900 tanks. And two TDs of the second wave, which went into battle on October 7 immediately after breaking through the defenses in the 188th brigade sector. Only a day after the attack, reservists of the Israeli 179 and 679 brigades began to arrive. To make it clear, they arrived as units were recruited during mobilization. And they were armed not only with Centurions. 50 Shermans with CN105 D1 went into battle on the afternoon of October 7th. And they were very successful. The survivors and arriving reservists stopped the breakthrough.
    You can also consider the confrontation between Sherman and T-62 in which the winner is...
    But in general, it’s difficult to understand what the author wanted to say, but I got the impression of a logically terribly absurd work.
  15. MSN
    0
    9 November 2023 22: 19
    Returning to the events of 1973, the “miracle in the Golan” had a completely rational explanation. The Israelis faced the most inept enemy of any army on the Eurasian continent. Neglect of preparation and weak motivation are at the level of empty slogans behind which there was no desire to fight and win.

    That’s exactly what Soviet advisers in the Egyptian Air Force and Soviet leaders thought the same way. The result of “thinking” is 4 shot down Soviet MiG-21s in one battle in an attempt to show the “most inept” how to fight and the grins of Egyptian fighter pilots.
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    10 November 2023 08: 38
    Quote: MSN
    The result of “thinking” is 4 shot down Soviet MiG-21s in one battle in an attempt to show the “most inept” how to fight and the grins of Egyptian fighter pilots.


    This is probably according to Israeli data.
    1. MSN
      0
      10 November 2023 12: 46
      There is a lot of information about this fight. The easiest way is to look at the wiki and follow the links. - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F_%C2%AB% D0%A0%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD_20%C2%BB
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        13 January 2024 17: 36
        And now Hamas is grinning

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