Abrams tanks are good vehicles, but they have little prospects

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Abrams tanks are good vehicles, but they have little prospects

The world is once again entering a state of Cold War with all the ensuing consequences in the form of global geopolitical and other changes. But military equipment, it seems, is just beginning to emerge from the era of the Cold War, albeit a past one. Indeed, the effectiveness of many types of weapons, the concept of which dates back to the last century, already raises questions. A striking example here is the American Abrams tank, the ability of which to ensure dominance in future wars even the US Army Research Council began to doubt.

The tank is getting heavier, and there are more and more threats


Almost two months ago, the US Army Research Council, which advises the US defense department, published a report covering the use of tanks M1 Abrams in future military conflicts of the 2040s, including the most likely one with China. Its authors, having outlined possible scenarios for the development of events, came to the conclusion that these combat vehicles in the future will turn out to be an ineffective means and will not be able to ensure dominance on the battlefield.



There are several reasons for this, but one of the main ones is the inability to counter all current and future threats. However, it is worth adding here that his security has actually already reached its limit.


Of course, the latest modifications of the Abrams, represented by the M1A2 SEP v.3, are among the most armored tanks in the world. Available information suggests that the frontal projection of this “American” can withstand hits from the most modern sub-caliber projectiles and cumulative missiles, including Russian ones. Which, in general, is not surprising, especially with depleted uranium in its composition. However, this superiority is given for a reason.

The price you have to pay in exchange for protection is the heavy weight of the vehicle. Let us recall that for the original version of the Abrams, the M1 version, whose production began back in 1979, it was at the level of 54 tons. However, over the years, due to constant upgrades of equipment and armor, this figure has increased by more than twenty percent and now stands at 66,8 tons for the M1A2 SEP v.3.

Such a large number of “extra kilograms” has already led to logistical difficulties during transportation by rail and aviation transport, and also in the future will greatly limit the passage of bridges in the proposed combat areas. So there can be no talk of any increase in armor, in any case associated with an increase in mass.


But the development of anti-tank weapons does not stand still.

The Abrams, like absolutely all modern production tanks in the world, are built according to the same principle of differentiated armor protection, which became widespread during the Second World War. It implies the location of the main body of armor in the frontal parts of the hull and turret of the vehicle, while the sides, stern and roof must be content with completely incommensurate or, more simply put, multiple times smaller thicknesses.

But a moment comes when the prevailing principles begin to crack and collapse like rotten beams.

Military conflicts of recent years, including Arab-Israeli clashes, wars in Karabakh and a special operation in Ukraine, have shown that tanks require protection not only in the frontal projection, but in all areas where a projectile can reach. The reason for this was the use of a huge number of a wide variety of anti-tank missile systems and grenade launchers, in combination with reconnaissance equipment that “snaps out” tanks from all sides. So the spread, which took on the character of an epidemic, drones in all their incarnations, ranging from attack UAVs for military purposes and loitering ammunition, ending with handicraft conversions of civilian drones in a kamikaze or under a grenade drop.

Threats a tank may face on the battlefield
Threats a tank may face on the battlefield

As the authors of the study correctly note, this trend will continue in future wars and, without any doubt, will develop.

However, the passive armor of the Abrams cannot withstand even the current arsenal, since additional reinforcement of the sides, stern and roof, where these uninvited guests for tankers usually fly, is simply not provided for by the already overweight design of the vehicle. And even such measures as dynamic protection are not able to completely solve this issue due to its relatively easy neutralization.

Of course, the most modern M1A2 SEP v.3 can be equipped with the Israeli-made Trophy active protection system, but this product cannot counter the entire range of threats on the battlefield - at least for drones it is completely useless, as was demonstrated during the current Hamas invasion into Israeli territory.


In return, it makes the tank heavier by almost a ton, increases its dimensions, requires large size and weight batteries with counterweights on the front of the turret, and also consumes a considerable amount of energy from the on-board network. Based on this, many military men and experts agree that the Trophy, in some sense, is more of a burden than an addition to the American tank. Therefore, we still have to think about the normal integration of all protection systems and the implementation of enhanced reservations.

Problems with delivery


The issue of the security of the Abrams in military conflicts, although it is one of the primary tasks, still does not qualify for the status of the main one. At a minimum, questions arise about how to quickly deliver armored brigades to the area of ​​proposed combat operations thousands of kilometers from US territory.

There are two options for solving this problem: the transfer of armored vehicles, related cargo and personnel, including crews, using sea or air transport. However, transportation by sea is associated with quite expected difficulties: it is simply a slow process that requires considerable time, as well as the involvement of a large number of units fleet – both transport ships and accompanying ships, the availability of which is doubtful.

Therefore, this option is most suitable for the transfer of troops and supplies in conditions of an already ongoing war, or very, very well in advance of the outbreak of a conflict.


With aviation as a means of transporting combat vehicles, difficulties of a different nature arise, due to the fact that tanks and infantry fighting vehicles included in armored brigades are very oversized and very heavy cargo. Let us remind you that due to the increase in the mass of the Abrams by more than 12 tons, the possibilities of its air transportation have changed dramatically. Of course, the C-17 Globemaster III (of which there are now less than 300 units), which is the main transporter for such “passengers,” although continues to carry the M1A2 SEP v.3, but with a minimum payload reserve. And an Atlantean like the S-5 Galaxy, which previously could easily take two tanks on board, now takes only one.

Here, an example that clearly illustrates the current situation is the invasion of Iraq in 2003, when thirty C-17 sorties were required to transport a set of five Abrams tanks, five Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, a battalion command post and crews. And to transport armored brigades with everything necessary in a future conflict - according to the authors of the study - over long distances, 575 sorties will be required. And this does not include other divisions.

Moreover, a war with China is considered as a future conflict in various scenarios, which are presented in the image attached below. But the priority, of course, is Taiwan.


The authors say the following:

The research team conducted a tabletop war game using a nearby Taiwanese scenario with support from the Center for Army Analysis.

This war game demonstrated the value of armor in the defense of Taiwan, but deployment and logistics difficulties prevented American armor from arriving in sufficient numbers before China presented itself with a fait accompli.

A review of classified wargame reports and other analysis found similar deployment and sustainment problems.

This problem is, of course, complex and includes all logistical issues, from a sufficient amount of transport to the proper provision of troops with everything they need. In the end, even the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle does not have good transportability, despite its lower weight. Still, the Abrams' influence as the backbone of an armored force is clear:

Discussions with Army leaders and retired generals who shared responsibility in Europe and the Indo-Pacific indicate a need to reconsider the weight of the main battle tank. Everyone agrees that the M1, weighing 70 (“short”) tons or more, is not tactically, operationally, or strategically mobile. It is therefore important to explore the possibility of significantly reducing the weight of the next generation MBT without compromising its protection in particular and operational capabilities in general.

When desires coincide with possibilities


Taking into account the fact that wars in the future will be characterized by the broadest interaction between military branches, the total use of completely different reconnaissance means, including those used directly on the battlefield, as well as robotics, the authors recommended a whole range of new combat vehicles. Among them, by the way, were robotic tanks, as well as hints at the future use of hypersonic missile systems to destroy armored targets. But, since most of these proposals are rather advisory in nature, it is worth turning to those that directly relate to tanks.

Noting that the M1 Abrams can no longer play a key role in hypothetical, but quite probable conflicts, the researchers came to the conclusion that it would still be desirable to reduce the mass of the main tank. In their view, a combat vehicle of this class should be in the range of 55–60 tons, have a high-impulse 130 mm caliber gun, a hybrid power plant and a reduced crew. This will reduce the impact of “excess weight” on logistics, and will also reveal new capabilities of the tank on the battlefield. Largely due to updated armor and other protection systems capable of repelling modern and future threats.

Characteristics of combat vehicles proposed by the Scientific Council in comparison with the classic Abrams

Characteristics of combat vehicles proposed by the Scientific Council in comparison with the classic Abrams

However, taking into account the fact that the new tank will not be able to completely solve the problem of mobility, a tank of a lighter weight category in the range of 35–40 tons with a large-caliber gun, relatively weak armor and active protective equipment was proposed for consideration. The scientific council did not define the role of this vehicle as a light tank, positioning it rather as a main tank in a “light version”, but the tendency to divide this equipment into light and heavy is visible. First of all, because even with all the executions with the main battle tank, the troops need a transportable, mobile and protected gun that can be quickly delivered without such a long logistics tail as the Abrams.

And here an interesting situation emerges: these recommendations of the US Army Research Council, one way or another, have already begun to be implemented.

Just a month ago, the American military leadership announced that further modernization of M1A2 tanks to the SEP v.4 standard would be completely stopped due to their large mass, difficulties in logistics and protection. Instead, efforts will be focused on a completely rethought Abrams concept, designated M1E3, which is planned for production closer to the 2030s. Moreover, the production of SEP v.3 modifications will continue in small volumes, and their service in the army will continue until the armored units are re-equipped with the new vehicle.

Apparently, the future M1E3 will be significantly redesigned in layout, including through the introduction of automated loading of the gun and an uninhabited or low-profile turret, which will redistribute the vehicle's passive armor and reduce its weight. And components such as active protection, means of combating drones, etc., will be initially built into the design, being its addition, and not a burden. In this case, it is possible that we are talking about using developments from AbramsX.


And the M10 Booker is already acting as a “light tank” - a means of fire support for infantry on the battlefield with the ability to quickly deploy outside the country, which we wrote about in the article American M10 Booker: tank or not tank – as long as the infantry is happy. Possessing a 105-mm cannon, armor against small-caliber cannon shells and modern electronics, these vehicles should become the “main caliber” of infantry brigades with the ability to quickly transport by air to the zone of the proposed conflict. This product, of course, has discrepancies with the recommendations of the Army Council, but the problem of the lack of an armored mobile gun among infantry and airborne troops, which has existed since the removal of the M551 Sheridan from service, will be solved.


At the moment, a contract has been signed for the production of 504 units of M10 Booker, and the first deliveries are expected before the end of this year. It is assumed that all vehicles will be formed into battalions and transferred to infantry and airborne divisions.

Thus, each infantry brigade will in the future be equipped with a company of these vehicles.

So the United States can definitely enter the war of the future with an updated tank fleet, the basis of which will be light and heavy tanks, for the most part already devoid of the problems of transportation, operational deployment and security.
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  1. 0
    12 October 2023 04: 03
    The Americans say the same thing as I thought - the future belongs to medium-weight mobile tanks, this means the future belongs to the new version of the T80, for it it is necessary to make a new gas turbine engine based on composite elements, which will give an additional ten kilometers to the speed.
    1. +4
      12 October 2023 04: 37
      Quote from Etoya
      for him we need to make a new gas turbine engine based on composite elements, which will give an additional ten kilometers to the speed.
      This is true, but not for speed, but for increasing power density. request
      1. -3
        12 October 2023 06: 37
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        This is true, but not for speed, but for increasing power density.

        To speed up.
        1. +2
          12 October 2023 07: 28
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          This is true, but not for speed, but for increasing power density.

          To speed up.

          Nope. fool To increase maneuverability and mobility on the battlefield, so as not to get lost in the abyss, crawl up the hill, pull the brother out of the battlefield. Abrams is supplied only to countries with dry soils.
          USA, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Australia request Well, Poland, out of a great mind, but rather out of a thirst to get even with Germany and get Europe under control. fool
    2. 0
      12 October 2023 16: 21
      The Americans are just replacing the gas turbine engine with a diesel-electric hybrid. Although, gas turbine engine-electric hybrids are being tested on some cars. It would be interesting to hear from experts how rational and promising this is.
    3. 0
      24 November 2023 10: 57
      For efficient operation, a gas turbine engine requires a rotation speed of several tens of thousands of turbine revolutions, while the engine’s throttle response cannot be compared with a diesel engine, which accelerates almost instantly. Well, as a bonus, fuel consumption is three times higher.
  2. +4
    12 October 2023 04: 08
    Of course, the C-17 Globemaster III (of which there are now less than 300 units), which is the main transporter for such “passengers,” although continues to carry the M1A2 SEP v.3, but with a minimum payload reserve.
    It’s funny, but the “light” Booker in the C-17 Globemaster III, with a range slightly higher than the transatlantic one, also only fits one.
  3. +7
    12 October 2023 04: 13
    But the question here is whether an expensive armored vehicle armed with an artillery gun is needed.
    At the same time, it is burned by controlled weaponry (the same ATGM).

    An analogy with the fleet suggests itself - when large artillery ships (battleships) were replaced by armorless ships with guided weapons.


    And if the tanks remain, what is their role, numbers, weapons (replacement or addition of artillery guns with ATGMs, kamikaze UAVs).

    Question for the experts.
  4. +3
    12 October 2023 04: 32
    Peace again enters a state of cold war with all the ensuing consequences in the form of global geopolitical and other changes.
    belay "Ale, wake up, we were robbed." The world has already entered a state of global hot war, the BV was set on fire. 50 years ago, a colonel at the military registration and enlistment office explained that Vietnam, Cuba, Korea, Africa - crap because of them there will never be a world war, but BV.... Israel was told and he again decided to “cut off the dry branches” request
    the Abrams tank, whose ability to ensure dominance in future wars even began to doubt US Army Research Council.
    Even the great blind man received his sight. belayBut he developed doctrines, outlined prospects, analyzing past experience, looked into the future...
    1. +1
      12 October 2023 08: 27
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The world has already entered a state of global hot war, they set fire to the BV

      Nothing happens at BV, let me remind you. What we have seen in recent days is the scale of a raid by people of unknown status on Shebekino and the shelling of Belgorod City by several divisions.

      Just another media hysteria, nothing more.
      1. +1
        12 October 2023 11: 33
        It’s strange that because of this hysteria in the media, the world’s main gendarmes sent aircraft carriers there
        1. +1
          12 October 2023 19: 21
          Quote from alexoff
          the world's main gendarmes drove aircraft carriers

          Another clownery. If it were serious, aircraft carriers would be heading towards Iran. And most importantly, there would be transports with those very non-transportable tanks.
          1. 0
            12 October 2023 22: 40
            Transports fly and sail there, and there are plenty of tanks at the American bases in the Middle East. Because of this, nothing happens: Blinken is running around the capitals, the Saudis are calling the Persians, the Turks are calling Putin and much more. I wonder where something happens in this case?
      2. +1
        12 October 2023 12: 20
        Quote: Negro
        The next media hysteria, nothing more.

        There is media hysteria, but more... request Cut off heads are nonsense, but US planes are flying and US ships are sailing, Israel is launching provocative strikes on Lebanon and Syria, and then with the US approach they will hit Iran. request And China will not have oil..... fool Rather than lose ships in the fight against China, the United States chose the path of 1941; China must attack itself.
        1. -1
          12 October 2023 15: 47
          Well, we won’t leave the Chinese brothers without oil, if only they pay money, or better yet, chips and shells.
          1. 0
            12 October 2023 16: 41
            Quote: RipRap
            Well, we won’t leave the Chinese brothers without oil, if only they pay money, or better yet, chips and shells.

            fool China's demand - China - 1 tons per day. fool No pipes will provide any pressure, and we are sinners request
            1. +1
              12 October 2023 17: 22
              So not just pipes, did someone ban tankers and railway tanks? request
        2. -1
          12 October 2023 19: 25
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Severed heads are nonsense

          Yes.
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          planes are flying

          And the tanks are burning.

          American planes are always flying somewhere.
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          China will not have oil..... Rather than lose ships in the fight against China, the United States chose the path of 1941, China must attack itself.

          Today, absolutely nothing is happening that would interest China.
  5. 0
    12 October 2023 06: 01
    The author worked hard and received a well-deserved “+”.
    A few thoughts on and without...
    So the United States can definitely enter the war of the future with an updated tank fleet

    Where might they enter the war of the future? On your North American territory? Where are the guarantees that these or any other “best” tanks will reach the Eastern Hemisphere? On what battlefields and against whom will these versions give a clear advantage?
    Let's admit honestly that the fight between anti-tank weapons and tanks ended in the unconditional defeat of the latter. It’s a miracle when a tank manages to “live a long and happy life” on the battlefield... So, maybe the very tactics of modern combat need global reworking and improvement in accordance with the advent of new weapons? Who said and showed that it is the tank that will be king on the modern battlefield?
    * * *
    Ultimately, the confrontation begins to move into the area of ​​fighting various types of drones, which allow (if there are a sufficient number of them) to inflict more damage on both the enemy on the LBS and his rear. You can't expect a miracle from some new incarnation of the armored monster. And we see this every time “invincible” samples are brought onto the battlefield.
    There is no guarantee that the T-14 will live up to expectations in full... This is not so... Only at a certain time and under certain conditions.
    * * *
    The time of generals who live by the wars of the past is completely gone. fresh brains and new tactics and strategy using existing and future weapons are the key to success on the battlefield.
    * * *
    As for the American “Abrams” and other “unparalleled in the world” iron trash, it can play a certain role in the confrontation with an enemy who does not possess the full range of modern weapons. As the XNUMXth century showed, this is exactly what happened. We have this saying: “Well done for the cows and for the sheep, and for the well done the sheep itself!”
    American war strategy: fight only against a weak enemy and preferably with the wrong hands.
    1. +4
      12 October 2023 09: 26
      Quote: ROSS 42
      We have this saying: “Well done for the cows and for the sheep, and for the well done the sheep itself!”
      American war strategy: fight only against a weak enemy and preferably with the wrong hands.

      It is especially appropriate to talk in such terms about the army, for which Iraq 1991 turned out to be a disparagingly weak adversary in the second year of the Northern Military District.
      1. +1
        12 October 2023 11: 29
        Quote: Negro
        It is especially appropriate to talk in such terms about the army, for which Iraq 1991 turned out to be a disparagingly weak adversary in the second year of the Northern Military District.

        You will also remember that for Desert Storm, the United States managed to put together a coalition and force its members to allocate their contingents for the operation. They even put Syria and the Saudis in the same formation, and the Syrians sent a tank division. smile
        And also in a month, the Yankees turned the image of Iraq into an infernal evil that needs to be punished immediately.
        1. 0
          12 October 2023 19: 17
          Quote: Alexey RA
          You will also remember that for Desert Storm, the United States managed to put together a coalition and force its members to allocate their contingents for the operation. They even put Syria and the Saudis in the same formation, and the Syrians sent a tank division.
          And also in a month, the Yankees turned the image of Iraq into an infernal evil that needs to be punished immediately.

          Grandfathers were at war.
      2. -1
        12 October 2023 11: 35
        The US has developed a time machine and can send that army from 1991 here?
        1. -2
          12 October 2023 19: 19
          Quote from alexoff
          The US has developed a time machine and can send that army from 1991 here?

          Unlike some other armies, the Americans have made either one or two quality transitions since the late 80s. So, with a high probability, they are stronger than their former selves, not weaker. The quantity has fallen, the quality has increased.
          1. +1
            12 October 2023 22: 42
            What is this based on? Can you tell us more about these qualitative leaps with comparative figures from 1991?
  6. -2
    12 October 2023 06: 58
    So to the war of the future The United States can definitely enter with an updated tank fleet, the basis of which will be light and heavy tanks, for the most part already devoid of the problems of transportation, operational deployment and security.
    Optimistic. But there are doubts about the “war of the future,” which the United States may enter with new tanks. For new regional conflicts that Americans can unleash with their allies - YES. And if this war begins (and the United States plans not only Russia, but also China) with an exchange of nuclear strikes, then there will be no time for tanks. But in the future, of course, every country is obliged to think about protecting its national security by strengthening the armed forces, incl. and new technology.
  7. -1
    12 October 2023 07: 37
    Available information suggests that the frontal projection of this “American” can withstand hits the most modern sub-caliber projectiles and cumulative missiles, including Russian ones. Which, in general, is not surprising especially with depleted uranium in the composition.
    What I wanted to say is clear, but what is written? feel The frontal projection has no composition. ......especially with depleted uranium in the armor.
    Military conflicts of recent years, including Arab-Israeli clashes, wars in Karabakh and a special operation in Ukraine, showed that tanks require protection not only in the frontal projection, but in all places where the projectile can reach.
    "Really hot, yeahhh." They didn't show anything. New means of destruction have appeared, but they still need to be developed and refined. And the differentiated armor thickness is not taken from the ceiling, but is calculated according to the probability of a hit, and defeat is still very far away.... request Etc. recourse
    1. -1
      12 October 2023 12: 57
      take any Abrams tank M1A2 or even M1A1
      and put at least the spaced remote sensing Relic in a circular
      - on the sides, hull, turret, on the bare roof of the turret and fenders
      we get an almost unkillable Abrams comparable to the T-90M Proryv-3 2023
      and so that the M1A2(1) Abrams tank goes into - “space”
      add built-in remote sensing Relic on the forehead of the hull and turret as well as on the bare roof of the turret
      DZ Kaktus on the sides of the tower, lattice screens and KAZ Arena-M with submunitions for working in the upper hemisphere
      and if on M1A2 Abrams tank in our upgrade put a visor with a network then Abrams will be able to withstand even a hit from a 152-mm Krasnopol UAS into the roof of the tower (with built-in and spaced-out Relikt remote sensing)
      1. +1
        13 October 2023 08: 53
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        and put at least the spaced remote sensing Relic in a circular

        Innocent Smoktunovsky!
        Kesha!!

        Wasn’t it your T-72 that had two meters of armor?
        1. -1
          13 October 2023 13: 45
          read carefully
          equivalent (!) - and NOT armor
          equivalent 110mm boron carbide plate = 880mm steel from kinetic bp
          360mm boron carbide composite equivalent (not silicon) in tower bays x 8
          = 2880 mm from kinetic ammunition
          from cumulative ones, of course, it is calculated according to the normal without equivalents, diversity saves here
          1. 0
            13 October 2023 19: 15
            Quote: Romario_Argo
            = 2880 mm from kinetic ammunition

            Quote: Negro
            Wasn’t it your T-72 that had two meters of armor?

            Three meters of armor? Sorry, I made a mistake.
      2. 0
        17 December 2023 18: 42
        No active protection, especially a mesh, can protect you from a 152 mm artillery shell. And no armor, especially the one on the roof...
  8. -1
    12 October 2023 07: 42
    About 15 years ago I read that they were abandoning tanks and switching to wheeled “mobile platforms of the future”, then things didn’t work out and they remembered tanks again. They themselves don’t know what they exactly need, because they constantly come up with new threats.
  9. -7
    12 October 2023 07: 55
    So far, the M1s have not fought against a serious enemy. Now, if Ukrainians are not afraid to take risks with expensive equipment, we’ll see. Popcorn has already been bought.
    1. -1
      12 October 2023 08: 35
      Quote: Nagan
      So far, the M1 has not fought against a serious enemy

      What can you do if the Americans have no serious opponents?
      Quote: Nagan
      Now, if Ukrainians are not afraid to risk expensive equipment,

      A battalion of any tanks with miners and tractor drivers behind the levers will not do anything against an inferior army. Moreover, in the case of Ukraine, we can talk about purposeful efforts by the command to destroy its own forces - in such situations, even the military forces of the IDF have little chance. What we have seen in recent days and, I am sure, will see on an even larger scale.

      So no, the “Ukrainian experience” shows nothing
      1. 0
        12 October 2023 22: 44
        Everything shows your speculative experience, apparently, in all other cases the experiment is incorrect
        1. 0
          13 October 2023 08: 19
          Quote from alexoff
          in all other cases the experiment is incorrect

          The correct experiments are carried out by the Americans themselves. Twice, with an interval of 10 years, we saw tank blitzkriegs in the style of the German grandfathers: both times they were Americans on Abrams. Among some circles of patriots, it is customary to give undeserved compliments to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, calling them “ukrovermacht,” but of course in the modern world there is only one Wehrmacht. The rest of the armies are not comparable to it.
          Quote from alexoff
          Can you tell us more about these qualitative leaps with comparative figures from 1991?

          It is always difficult to evaluate quality in numbers. But with horse racing, everything is simple, massive use of high-precision weapons (this process had already begun in 91) and network-centric combat.

          With quantity, the numbers are known. Today's Americans will not be able to assemble a force of the size of Desert Storm; it will be several times smaller in its ground part. Aviation and navy are more or less at the same level quantitatively and sharply stronger qualitatively.
  10. +1
    12 October 2023 07: 56
    I don’t remember where, I read a very interesting opinion: consider the Abrams not as an MBT, but as an anti-tank self-propelled gun, then a lot of things fall into place. the strongest forehead and thin sides, the tactit of the “tank in a trench” application, when the NLD is hiding and only a piece of the turret sticks out, the turbine engine with its crazy consumption, but excellent dynamics, etc. For me, this is a very interesting opinion.
    1. +4
      12 October 2023 08: 42
      Quote: DrVintorez
      very interesting opinion

      Actually, this is a banality. The tanks of the Fulda corridor are designed to fight Soviet tanks that are sharply superior in number but inferior in quality. They are balanced fundamentally differently than the Merkava 4 urban battle tank. Another thing is that having approximately 70 tons of chassis and logistics capabilities, you can change a lot of things during upgrades. Twice as much as the T-36, for example, has 64 tons.
    2. +1
      12 October 2023 21: 27
      Opinion???? This is an axiom. Turret tank destroyer.
  11. -2
    12 October 2023 08: 23
    . The scientific council did not define the role of this vehicle as a light tank, positioning it rather as a main tank in a “light version”

    In short, the Americans have only now come to the concept of a main tank, while our tank builders understood and implemented this back in the 50-60s of the last century, abandoning heavy tanks.
    And one more thing: the main means of destroying a tank today is an ATGM with a tandem warhead. This means that only a reliable KAZ can protect the tank from destruction, and it must also work against ammunition dropped from drones. (Although everyone already knows this).
  12. -2
    12 October 2023 09: 04
    Was there a similar article recently? literally the day before yesterday?
    and they’ve been writing about Abrams’ “Obsoletion” for about 20 years now. But they’ve also been writing about the fact that it will be “obsolete” for another 25 years.
    But thanks for the reminder. Everything seems to be true, but...no one from tanks is yet insured against gravity, large anti-tank guided missiles and UAVs.
  13. 0
    12 October 2023 09: 17
    Hmm.

    The author seems to position himself “about hardware”. In such cases, any hint of geopolitics is always harmful.

    “Global tank mobility” is just a gibberish, meaningless journalistic chatter. It is not a tank that has global mobility, but at least a tank division.

    A tank division cannot be redeployed by air. Dot.

    Accordingly, the discussed “experts” are doing the favorite thing of American “experts”: they are coming up with new fairy tales (no, no matter what. There is a screenwriters’ strike in Hollywood, so they have to rewrite old fairy tales, dating back to the time of the FCS program) for Congress in order to stir up another cut. Whether it will work out or not, the devil only knows. It is difficult to expect wisdom in military-industrial matters from the American political leadership, but, on the other hand, 200 years is not so bad.
    1. +1
      12 October 2023 11: 41
      Quote: Negro
      A tank division cannot be redeployed by air. Dot.

      With some assumptions it can. But it will be very expensive and still slow.
      Remember the dual deployment units of the Cold War? When a l/s sits in the Metropolis and trains on one set of equipment and weapons, and a second set is waiting for them in warehouses in Europe. From time to time, exercises are conducted on the transfer of military personnel with the re-preservation of the European kit, exercises and re-preservation.
      But there are now more probable theaters of war. And plans for heavy divisions with three or four sets of equipment will not withstand budget hearings and attacks from the Air Force and Navy (because the military budget is still finite, and the army will not allow the army to pull the blanket on itself like that).
      1. -1
        12 October 2023 19: 13
        Quote: Alexey RA
        With some assumptions it can. But it will be very expensive and still slow.
        Remember the dual deployment units of the Cold War?

        As you understand, this remark has nothing to do with the topic of the supposedly necessary air transportability of the tank.
  14. -1
    12 October 2023 12: 17
    Abrams is a good tank. In Ukraine it seems to already exist, but it is so good that no one has seen it on the battlefield. I think they turned it on “invisibility”, “stealth” almost like the F-35. Almost 2000 F-35s have already been stamped, but no one has seen them used in combat. “Invisibility” in American terms, we simply misunderstood them, is that no one is going to send them to the battlefield.
    1. -2
      12 October 2023 16: 45
      Quote: Dzenn
      Abrams is a good tank.

      Speak to the end, he has not been in a decent war and will not be, because he is simply terrible. When armor with depleted uranium is penetrated, the tankers will definitely glow. feel
  15. -1
    12 October 2023 12: 59
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Remember the dual deployment units of the Cold War? When a l/s sits in the Metropolis and trains on one set of equipment and weapons, and a second set is waiting for them in warehouses in Europe.


    This is possible if unmanned platforms are used instead of tanks. Abrams costs $10 million; a heavy tank drone is expected to cost $3 million through the maximum use of civilian components.
  16. -1
    12 October 2023 15: 47
    Why does the Abrams have little prospects if one of the two main tanks of the US Armed Forces will be the M1A3 Abrams, according to the same article?
  17. -1
    12 October 2023 17: 30
    Any weapon is good if used correctly. And accordingly vice versa. Leopards and Challengers burn not because they are bad, but because they are used incorrectly. I think that NATO strategists are clutching their heads at what is happening in Ukraine.
  18. 0
    13 October 2023 17: 18
    The tank must:
    1. Have your own lancets launched from a cannon
    2. Have your own reconnaissance/gunner drones
    3. Shoot a missile controlled by a drone at 20 km
    4. Have the best active protection possible in all hemispheres
    5. Have your own electronic warfare
    6. The armor can be greatly reduced in its usefulness a little and made more evenly distributed throughout the tank, including on top

    And then such a combat vehicle will again become a threat to war.

    But whoever hears me, even here they probably won’t understand, not to mention the Moscow Region.