Revolvers and a pistol starting with the letter "B"

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Revolvers and a pistol starting with the letter "B"
A 9mm Bayeux Brothers Revolver with floral engraving and distressed gold inlays on the cylinder, barrel, grip, trigger guard and frame. The entire frame and barrel are made from one piece of steel, which is quite rare. The left side of the barrel is marked "Bayet F-res Brevete". Six-chamber drum. Barrel length: 118 mm


Maybe in swamp Bengal,
Where everything turns to dust
Perhaps in the mountains of the Transvaal,
Perhaps - in the Afghan mountains,
By the black Sudanese wells
On the fast Burmese river
One day you happen to
To stand on the bloody sand.

Adam Lindsay Gordon
(October 19, 1833 – June 24, 1870).

ancient weapon from A to Z. Last time we looked at revolvers starting with the letter “A”. Today we have the second letter of the alphabet – “B”. There were a lot of Belgian gunsmiths with this letter. But basically they mostly made hunting rifles. Very beautiful, with carved locks and triggers, but still guns, and we are only interested in “short barrels”, and today we continue the story about just such weapons, and even one pistol has crept into our “revolver row”.



Industrialists, naturally, saw the best examples of these weapons and sought to copy them. But copying designs protected by a patent, and often not just one, but several, and even obtained in different countries, was not at all easy. We had to dodge and come up with ways to circumvent the patents.

It could have been done differently: choose a suitable model, prepare it for mass production, develop a technology that would reduce the cost of production as much as possible, and... wait! Wait until the patent protection period expires so that literally the next day you can release a cheaper analogue of the patented product. They did the same thing, and there are a lot of similar designs of the same revolvers.

And, of course, the appearance. The same revolver could be produced with a nickel-plated or blued body. The body and drum could be covered with carvings and engravings. Silver-plated and gold-plated cases are known. The handles could be made of wood, including valuable species, rubber and ivory (and just bone), as well as mother-of-pearl. That is, again, the calculation was that the consumer has very different tastes, and some will like a blued revolver, while others will like one decorated with rough and tacky carvings, and even silver-plated. Montegero revolvers, for example, were even finished with silver plates and decorated with corals.

So, the first on our list will be some Bayeux brothers.

Belgians, gunsmiths who produced a wide variety of weapons. And in particular, Lefoshe system revolvers of 9 mm caliber chambered for a pin cartridge. But at the same time, they tried to bring something of their own into its design.


The same revolver of the Bayeux brothers. “Abadi door” with a hairpin handle


Another Bayeux brothers revolver of 9 mm caliber and a very unusual design


By rotating the ejector rod 110 degrees downward, the barrel and cylinder can be moved forward


Then, by turning the stem, you can rotate it back to its normal position. In this case, the barrel and drum are fixed, and empty cartridges can be removed from it. Double action revolver. Barrel length 105 mm, total length 138 mm


Bayeux brothers 7mm revolver


The revolver was disassembled in a very unusual way...


They also released a knife-revolver chambered for Lefoshe (patent dated March 24, 1865)


Under the barrel it had a boss on which a spring-loaded double-edged blade was attached. It could be opened, or it could be folded. In the photo it is folded


The second revolver chambered for centerfire cartridges is a reworking of the Lefoshe system, the ammunition for which is outdated. The frame has been redesigned to allow the modified hammer to engage the cartridge primer. The pin grooves at the rear of the drum have been removed. Handle grips made of carved vulcanized rubber


“Abadi door” on a revolver before conversion for centerfire cartridges


A very original revolver knife, marked with the initials BS. It is believed that this may be Bertrand Simon, but this is not certain


Bertrand Antoine and Fils "Terrefic" revolver, with five-round cylinder, .320 caliber, chrome plated, with cheap floral engravings, ivory grip and cylinder hinged to the right


Drum tilted to the right...


Bertrand Antoine and Fils also produced Montenegro revolvers, popular in Europe, although not as large in size as in the Balkans


“Francott ears”, fastening the upper assembly of the folding frame on the Montenegro revolver


Joseph Bertrand's "Firearms Factory" (apparently, it was some relative of Antoine) produced a six-shooter "Bulldog" revolver in 1918. The ramrod rotates on an axis, and the spent cartridges are pushed out. The trigger is inside the oval trigger guard. On the left side of the case there is a Mauser type fuse.

In addition to revolvers, Joseph's company also produced hunting rifles of the most beautiful type. Bertrand also produced automatic weapons, but the German occupation of Liege in 1914 forced him to close his factory. He also developed several models of 6,35 mm pistols, which had names such as “Le Rapide”, “Continental”, “Le Novo”. A special feature of the pistols was that the barrel and frame were cast as one part. The bolt is operated by a spring inserted into a cylinder above the barrel.


Pistol "Le Rapid". Right view


Pistol "Le Rapid". Left view


Knife-pistol "Ouvrier" ("worker"). A very beautiful small pistol knife, 8 mm caliber, combined with a folding blade (115 mm) and a corkscrew (52 mm). All metal parts are nickel plated. It had one barrel running along the handle. Bone handle. Rawhide leather case. Under the plate is engraved the name of the manufacturer - Liege manufactory Bodin L. without any other precise details


Revolver "Bulldog" from Bonson & Arents & Co. An ordinary Bulldog type revolver without any special features. It is known about the company itself that in 1886 it registered three patents, in particular, for a revolving system


Revolver "Pappy" company "Brock and Scholberg"

Brock & Scholberg was founded in 1856 by Alfonso Brock from Montevideo and Clementine Zuider Scholberg from Liege. This is a unification of interests across an entire ocean.

The first firearms began arriving in Uruguay from B&S in the late 1870s and were in great demand there. The company ceased to exist in 1936, but some of its employees continued to work until the end of World War II at the enterprise under the romantic name Casa Coqueiro (“House of Palm Trees”).

It is interesting that samples of weapons from this company are still found in South America today, but they are valued very expensively and are considered very rare.


Revolver of Jules Berry

Six-round drum, .320 caliber. The barrel is octagonal with a crescent-shaped front sight. Loading through the “Abadi door”. Discharge is carried out using a cleaning rod on the right side of the frame. Trigger without trigger guard. The handle covers are made of two walnut pieces held together with a cross screw and two rivet washers with lugs. The drum axle can be removed, and then the drum can be removed and charged separately.


Jules Berry revolver with the cylinder removed from the frame

Next time we will have a weapon starting with the letter “C”...

PS


The author and administration of the site would like to thank Alain Dobres (littlegun.be) for the opportunity to use his materials.

To be continued ...
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  1. +6
    15 October 2023 05: 42
    Gordon's lines at the beginning.

    Among the British, in most lyrical poems one can trace all of their colonial “activities”. They love to romanticize tragedies.
    1. +4
      15 October 2023 07: 39
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Gordon's lines at the beginning.

      The AST publishing house is planning another book in the series of “atlases” just about weapons. The first part is devoted to revolvers. And there Gordon's entire poem is divided into chapters. Like epigraphs. I read all the chapters - I also read Gordon's poems.
      1. +4
        15 October 2023 16: 14
        Vyacheslav, thanks for the interesting article! good
        You don’t let us die of boredom in our village. smile
  2. +3
    15 October 2023 05: 49
    Where is the famous "Bayard" from "The Meeting Place..."?
    1. +5
      15 October 2023 06: 23
      Revolvers and a pistol starting with the letter "B"

      Where is the famous "Bayard"

      Where are the Beretta revolvers and pistols? Not enough space? But in any case, it was necessary to write about Browning - after all, Gavrilo Princip’s shot from the FN Browning M 1910 cost humanity more than one million lives.
      1. +11
        15 October 2023 06: 51
        And not just weapons - they have been written and rewritten about them in VO, but little-known, ancient weapons, such that not everyone knew in the past, or, on the contrary, everyone knew, but only then for some reason they forgot about them.
        This is stated in the preface of the first article in the series.
        Hello Dmitry!
        1. +7
          15 October 2023 07: 18
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          And not just weapons - they have been written and rewritten about them in VO, but little-known, ancient weapons, such that not everyone knew in the past, or, on the contrary, everyone knew, but only then for some reason they forgot about them.
          This is stated in the preface of the first article in the series.

          Another reason for me to respect you, Anton. You read my articles carefully...
      2. +5
        15 October 2023 06: 52
        In any case, I should have written about Browning
        I agree with you. But pay attention to the table of contents of the article “Revolvers and pistol with the letter “B”", i.e. the author initially warned that he would write about one pistol.
        Regarding revolvers with a knife and brass knuckles (there were such), I think that this was a design redundancy that brought little benefit and made the weapon heavier. Which, by the way, is recognized by gunsmiths when they look at revolvers of that era.
      3. +6
        15 October 2023 07: 16
        Well, I already wrote about all these weapons on VO. And a lot... There were THREE articles about the same Browning. Now they are writing about what is happening in Russia NO ONE WRITTEN YET.
      4. 0
        15 October 2023 11: 40

        Therefore, Browning also had to be mentioned!

        Good afternoon, Dmitry! hi
        1. +5
          15 October 2023 16: 31
          Quote from Kojote21
          Therefore, Browning also had to be mentioned!

          There were at least THREE articles about him here by me, if not all four... Where else should I mention it?
    2. +9
      15 October 2023 07: 18
      Quote: Amateur
      Where is the famous "Bayard" from "The Meeting Place..."?

      The alphabetical-encyclopedic approach to coverage in the formation of articles will obviously be replete with lacunae and gaps. I have almost a dozen similar works on my shelves. In good publications, they also include at least two reference books (index) in the Russian alphabet and in English. Therefore, requiring the Author to provide comprehensive coverage in an article format is unfair.
      I suggest, if possible, supplementing Vyacheslav’s work in the comments, fortunately we are not subject to restrictions related to copyright.
      All the good days!
      1. +3
        15 October 2023 16: 30
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Fortunately, we are not subject to copyright restrictions.

        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3. +7
      15 October 2023 07: 19
      If I understand correctly, then this series of articles is dedicated to LITTLE-KNOWN and FORGOTTEN weapons manufacturers, and not to those who, as they say, are “heard of”... So, Bayards, Bergmans and others fly by.
      Many thanks to the author for his work!!!






















      1. +4
        15 October 2023 07: 37
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        So, the Bayards, Bergmans and others are flying by.

        That's right!
      2. +3
        15 October 2023 11: 45
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        If I understand correctly, then this series of articles is dedicated to LITTLE-KNOWN and FORGOTTEN weapons manufacturers, and not to those who, as they say, are “heard of”... So, Bayards, Bergmans and others fly by.
        Many thanks to the author for his work!!!

        I join your kind words about the work of Vyacheslav Olegovich! Thank him so much!!" drinks
    4. +5
      15 October 2023 16: 13
      It could have been a different, later model, which is most likely.

      Bayard Mle.1923:
  3. +3
    15 October 2023 06: 42

    They completely forgot about the Schmeisser pistols produced by the company Bergmann (Firm Bergmann)...
    1. +5
      15 October 2023 07: 17
      Quote: Luminman
      They completely forgot about the Schmeisser pistols produced by the Bergmann company...

      German weapons of the late 19th and early 20th will go especially well...
    2. +5
      15 October 2023 07: 21
      As far as I understand, Vyacheslav Olegovich plays from the name of the designer, and not the name of the revolver - so the claim is unfounded.
      1. +5
        15 October 2023 07: 36
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        from the designer's surname

        That's it!
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  5. +5
    15 October 2023 07: 54
    Nicht fershtein! The other day our comrade at VO was interested in what alphabet the respected author intends to use...Cyrillic or Latin! The author chose the Latin alphabet, which he solemnly declared! So after A there should be B, not B! stop Who else but us should tell the author about the flaw!? Yes
    1. +6
      15 October 2023 08: 25
      So after A there should be B

      I don’t understand your complaint - you suggest that the author write the names of gunsmiths in the original language - Bayet?
      1. +5
        15 October 2023 08: 36
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        I don't understand your complaint

        The point is not a complaint, but the fact that they didn’t understand the joke... (or “playful light irony”...) wink
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        Are you suggesting that the author write the names of the gunsmiths in the original language - Bayet?

        Why not ? "Parallel" with Russian pronunciation! Yes
      2. +4
        15 October 2023 15: 22
        By the way, I also wondered if revolvers produced by Husqvarna would be mentioned in the series, what letter would they go by?....
        1. +3
          15 October 2023 16: 03
          Hello Anton! smile
          Well, since there was a series on “B”, then there will probably be an episode on “X”. Let's wait, the winter is long.
        2. +6
          15 October 2023 18: 05
          revolvers made by Husqvarna, what letter will they go by?....

          Under the name of the designer of these revolvers - Nagan. The manufacturer is secondary.

          1. +2
            16 October 2023 07: 29
            Quote from Frettaskyrandi
            Under the name of the designer of these revolvers - Nagan.

            Exactly! But we will talk about very rare, atypical revolvers.
        3. +3
          15 October 2023 18: 19
          The chainsaw file cabinet is a special cabinet.

          By the way, it’s also a wonderful world.
          1. +2
            15 October 2023 20: 51
            By the way, it’s also a wonderful world.


            Exceptionally wonderful and original! good
            The comrade in the photo is absolutely sure of this. wassat
            1. +3
              15 October 2023 21: 03
              "Where did you get such pictures, doctor?" (from).

              There are now not enough domestic chainsaws.

              By the way, in Finland I was passing through a private museum, where the history of forestry equipment is very well shown.
              1. +4
                15 October 2023 22: 04
                My first saw was an electric Black Dzker, twenty years of trouble-free operation. I foolishly lent it to a friend and they ruined it. They bought me some Chinese instead, it works for now.
                It’s like in that joke - until the hegemon tries to saw through his own scrap with a Japanese circular saw, he will not calm down.
                1. +2
                  15 October 2023 23: 08
                  A sample anecdote from our first course. Seemed funny then.

                  It is clear that we will not return to the bow saw. But we are taking steps in this direction.
                  1. +3
                    15 October 2023 23: 59
                    It is clear that we will not return to the bow saw. But we are taking steps in this direction.

                    That's right, steps. For example, from T-80 to T-54 in this war, on which I had the pleasure of serving.
                    Regarding pleasure, not sarcasm, I still remember this car with gratitude. But... still not "Leopard", even in my time.
                    1. +1
                      16 October 2023 05: 05
                      And with logging, the situation with skidders is typical.

                      At the best of times, the Onega and Altai tractor plants produced up to 22 thousand skidders per year (TDT-55 and TT-4).

                      Then large loggers switched to bourgeois harvesters (felling, delimbing, crosscutting machines) and forwarders.

                      I don’t know what will happen now.

                      Belarusians continue to produce logging equipment.
  6. +8
    15 October 2023 09: 36
    Today we have the second letter of the alphabet – “B”. There were a lot of Belgian gunsmiths with this letter. But basically they mostly made hunting rifles.

    At the end of the XNUMXth and beginning of the XNUMXth centuries, more hunting weapons were produced in Belgium than in the rest of Europe combined.
    For example, in 1900, the Liege Banc d'Epreuves des Armes a Feu alone (the testing chamber that controlled the quality of weapons produced by Liege companies) conducted 2 tests.
    And you can even find some kind of detective stories starting with the letter “B”.
    For example, the company BAUMANN Emile son, according to available information, produced hunting rifles that can still be found today.



    And then meticulous collectors come across a branded envelope, which depicts a pistol, not a gun.



    In addition, the pistol on the envelope is very rare, little-known - 7.65mm Roth–Sauer.



    It was believed that in the early 1900s, the German company JP Sauer & Sohn produced no more than 3000 copies of these pistols and no one else produced them. However, logically, it is unlikely that a branded envelope will be decorated with a little-known example of a weapon to which the company has nothing to do. Here comes the detective.
    1. +5
      15 October 2023 15: 49
      7.65mm Roth-Sauer.


      The brainchild of Georg Roth is difficult to recognize. smile
      And here is the continuation of his work.

      Self-loading pistol "Roth-Steyr" 1907 Austria.
      1. +3
        15 October 2023 17: 55
        The brainchild of Georg Roth is difficult to recognize.

        Technically, it is the brainchild of Karel Krnka. Roth was Krnk's employer and financed the development, so he became the patent holder.
        1. +5
          15 October 2023 18: 03
          “Everything was mixed up in the Oblonskys’ house” (c)
          1. +3
            15 October 2023 18: 27
            Why did it get mixed up? Common practice. To paraphrase a well-known expression, whoever pays has the patent. Although in the literature there is information that Roth and Krnka took the patents together, and after Roth’s death, Krnka and his heirs began litigation on these issues, which is why Krnka left Roth’s company.
        2. +5
          15 October 2023 18: 20
          Technically, it is the brainchild of Karel Krnka.

          I know. hi
          I knew about the Krnka family from his parent, whose rifle was adopted into service in the Russian Empire and which our soldiers, without breaking their tongues, simply called “Krynka”)).

          1. +4
            15 October 2023 19: 12
            I also knew from his parent, whose rifle was adopted for service in the Russian Empire

            And I was on a pedal tram, which was developed by Sylvester Crnka.

  7. +5
    15 October 2023 10: 58
    I liked the folding knife with the pistol and, most importantly, the corkscrew. A very gentlemanly thing .. ehh “I could use one of these” .. I want it, I want it feel
  8. +4
    15 October 2023 13: 19
    A very original revolver knife, marked with the initials BS. It is believed that this may be Bertrand Simon, but this is not certain

    In the photo, the SB mark is on the base of the blade. M.b. Is this the mark of a master cutler? The blade has a complex shape and could be ordered separately, or the revolver itself could be produced in cooperation with a knife company.
  9. +4
    15 October 2023 14: 26
    A very original revolver knife, marked with the initials BS. It is believed that this may be Bertrand Simon, but this is not certain

    A similar combination, a knife-gun, a revolver knife, was very popular in those years not only among Belgian, but also among French companies. And since the French language is widespread in Belgium, both the French and the Belgians called this combination couteau-pistolet. They made a great variety of them, and the corkscrew necessarily served as a trigger.
    littlegun.be “floats” in such matters and its information should be approached with caution.
    1. +7
      15 October 2023 15: 26
      In continuation of the fact that littlegun.be in terms of information is “underdeveloped” by the “initials SB”.
      This is how the French company Sigaud & Barnerias marked its revolver knives (Couteau-Pistolet), products for which were also produced in Belgium.



      Products of this company with such markings are quite often found at auctions today.
      This company was located in France, the city of Thiers, famous for its folding knives. The owner of the company, Jacques SIGAUD, specifically bought Lefoshe revolvers for his combined weapons.



      So Bertrand Simon is neither a village nor a city here.
    2. +2
      15 October 2023 17: 10
      the corkscrew necessarily served as a trigger.
      Some kind of spy warehouse. If you want to drink a bottle with a person, you open a peaceful corkscrew... bully
      1. +2
        15 October 2023 19: 18
        One of the next articles will feature a 20-round double-barreled revolver with an under-barrel dagger!
        1. 0
          15 October 2023 19: 37
          In my youth, I read somewhere about a revolver that used a stream of powder gases to rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer. The name of the author of this design was called - Gassel. This design did not become widespread, but I remember the idea that was ahead of its time. Now I tried to put it in the search, but it didn’t give anything except Gasser. You don’t have it planned for the letter “G”? what
          1. +4
            15 October 2023 19: 54
            In my youth, I read somewhere about a revolver that used a stream of powder gases to rotate the cylinder and cock the hammer. The name of the author of this design was called - Gassel.

            There was no such revolver with “a jet of powder gases to rotate the drum.”
            All known automatic revolvers, Landstad revolver, Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver, Union Automatic Revolver, Zulaica Automatic Revolver, used recoil force.
            The Austrian designer Leopold Gasser did not design automatic revolvers; all his revolvers were ordinary.

            1. +1
              15 October 2023 20: 40
              There was no such revolver

              But I remember the photo, and even then I thought that jet propulsion was used, and the nozzles on the drum were visible)
              Now, of course, I understand that this is not feasible, and I thought a lot wrong feel
              1. +3
                15 October 2023 20: 52
                the nozzles on the drum are visible




                These are not nozzles. These are guide grooves through which the drum is rotated.
                1. +2
                  15 October 2023 21: 37
                  These are not nozzles.

                  Now I understand this) Although in the photo these grooves were machined tangentially to the drum and perpendicular to its axis. Now I don’t remember where I saw it and read it - 45 years have passed... The only thing I remember is that it was made in the singular.
          2. +2
            16 October 2023 07: 27
            Quote from cpls22
            You don’t have it planned for the letter “G”?

            “G” will be there, but I don’t know what’s “inside” yet...