Against snipers and optics. Scanning detector of surveillance equipment "SOSN-N"

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Against snipers and optics. Scanning detector of surveillance equipment "SOSN-N"
Detector "SOSN-N"


Over the past few years, the Russian defense industry has been showing the latest detector/neutralizer of surveillance equipment, SOSNA-N, at specialized exhibitions. Not long ago, a batch of such complexes ended up in the Special Operation zone. In real combat conditions, they demonstrated their capabilities and potential.



Complexes at the front


The TASS agency reported on the practical use of SOSNA-N products on September 29. It received information about this from an unnamed source in the domestic defense-industrial complex. At the same time, the disclosed information is not complete and detailed.

It is reported that the Russian army has acquired a batch of SOSNA-N complexes. They were transferred to special forces units involved in the current Special Operation. The products were used in combat zones and successfully passed this test.

In a report from TASS, the SOSNA-N product is mentioned as an anti-sniper complex. The main features and characteristics of this system are also given, and optical sighting devices of sniper rifle systems are given as one example of a target for it. Apparently, the detector-neutralizer was used primarily to combat enemy snipers.

"SOSNA-N" coped with the assigned tasks and successfully passed the combat test. Now we should expect that the army and other structures will draw conclusions and begin to more actively acquire such equipment. It can be used not only on the battlefield, but also in other situations.

Detection and Neutralization


Optical-electronic complexes of the SOSNA series (Scanning Detector of Surveillance Equipment) are being developed by the Moscow Polyus Research Institute named after. M.F. Stelmakh, part of the Shvabe holding (Rostec State Corporation). The first work in this direction began quite a long time ago, and back in the tens, the Institute presented the first detector “SOSNA”.


Layout of optical instruments

As the name implies, this product was intended to monitor a designated area and detect optical devices. Information about the found target was given to the operator and could be used for target designation of other systems and complexes.

At the Army-2020 military-technical forum, a deep modernization of the existing system called SOSNA-N (Neutralizer) was presented for the first time. Due to the introduction of new elements and devices, as well as updating the control software, the complex was able not only to find, but also to suppress / neutralize enemy optics.

The development organization believed that SOSNA-N would be of interest to a wide range of customers - the military, intelligence services and civilian organizations. Great commercial prospects were determined by the high characteristics of the system and its low cost. In addition, the absence of direct competitors is important: the Polyus Research Institute notes that there are no systems with the capabilities of the SOSNA detectors in our country or abroad.

The SOSNA series detectors were previously regularly demonstrated at specialized exhibitions, but their commercial success has not yet been reported. Only a few days ago, at the end of September, it became known that new products had entered the army and were tested under Special Operations conditions.

Robotic complex


"Scanning detector of surveillance equipment - neutralizer" type "SOSN-N" is a specialized optical-electronic station with characteristic features and functions. It is distinguished from other OES by its ability to detect and track characteristic targets, as well as the possibility of their optical suppression. Such capabilities are determined by the design and composition of the device equipment.


"SOSNA-N" detected binoculars from a distance of 700 m

In general, the SOSNA-N complex consists of two elements - the optical station itself and the control panel. The detector station is a compact device in the form of a fixed base with a rotating head that accommodates optical devices. The dimensions of the station do not exceed 250x250x150 mm. The weight of the product is only 4,6 kg, which allows it to be carried manually and quickly placed in the required position. The device requires a 12 V power supply.

A rugged tablet computer with the necessary software is used as a remote control. Remote control weight – 1,1 kg. The station and remote control can be connected via cable or use a Wi-Fi radio channel.

The common body of the detector houses six optical devices with different functions. These are a surveillance camera, a detection probe and receiver, a precision guidance probe and receiver, and a neutralization laser emitter. There are drives for rotating the head around a vertical axis within 180° to the right and left of the neutral position. There is no vertical guidance.

During operation, in automatic or manual mode, SOSNA-N constantly turns the head and scans a given sector, illuminating it with two IR laser probes. Optical instruments in the sector are detected by reflections and glare of the probing radiation, recorded by two receivers. Due to this, the direction to the target is determined, and a separate accurate detection channel improves overall performance. Can work at any time of the day.

At the operator’s command or in automatic mode, the optics are suppressed using a laser - a beam of limited power in the visible range is used. Such illumination actually excludes the effective use of optical sights, observation devices, EOS, etc. The effective range is up to 3 km.


Flash from a TV camera at a distance of 300 m

The SOSNA-N detector-neutralizer can be controlled by an operator or operate in fully automatic mode. There is a function for automatically cutting off interference and foreign objects that create glare, like optics. The device can work independently or as part of larger security systems. Depending on the method of application, target designation data can be transmitted to different consumers.

Applications


According to the development organization, SOSNA-N can be used to protect a variety of stationary structures - industrial, infrastructure and administrative facilities. It is also possible to use it in the protection of moving objects, such as cars, convoys, etc. At the same time, the use of optics for surveillance, information collection, etc. is suppressed.

The military potential of the SOSNA-N product is also great. With its help, you can detect and suppress optics on equipment and weapons. First of all, the device is considered as a means of countering snipers and ATGM crews, which critically depend on optical devices. It is also possible to work for other purposes. Thus, the device will be able to detect camouflaged equipment with partially open optics.

According to the latest news, in the Special Operation zone, several SOSNA-N devices were used specifically to combat snipers. This type of application allows you to fully utilize the potential of the detector/neutralizer. At the same time, the complex is capable of operating and performing counter-sniper tasks both independently and together with living soldiers.

When fighting against snipers, SOSNA-N is placed in a camouflaged position and monitors the specified sector of space. When a suspicious object is detected, the device can transmit its coordinates and image to the operator. Further actions depend on the chosen method of fighting the enemy. An enemy sniper can become a target for the laser and lose the ability to aim fire. In addition, data about his position can be transmitted to his sniper or more powerful firepower.


Device "SOSN" without the possibility of neutralizing optics

Both application algorithms give clear positive results. In the first case, SOSNA-N forces the sniper to leave the exposed position and, at least temporarily, stop working. In the second, his activities are stopped in a radical way. The same applies to opponents of other specialties who use optics - reconnaissance observers, ATGM operators, etc.

From exhibitions to practice


Thus, another modern domestic development has gone beyond the exhibition pavilions and testing grounds, and also entered the zone of real combat operations. Reportedly, the SOSNA-N scanning detector-neutralizer was tested by special forces and successfully completed its job.

Now we can expect that SOSNA-N products will become more widespread in our army and law enforcement agencies. It is also possible to modernize the original system taking into account the experience of real combat use. It is likely that the redesigned detector/neutralizer will be larger and more powerful, able to detect and suppress targets at a greater distance, etc. However, even in its current form, SOSNA-N meets the basic requirements and copes with its tasks.
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  1. +4
    3 October 2023 04: 59
    Good stuff! What about the detection of SOSNYA-M by the enemy SOSNA-M device?
    1. -1
      3 October 2023 10: 37
      But no way! "Excalibur" just flies over the laser emitter
      1. +1
        4 October 2023 11: 04
        Then what’s the problem with hanging out cheap Chinese laser pointers and harvesting expensive Excaliburs and other homing ammunition?
    2. +2
      3 October 2023 11: 06
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Good stuff!

      I wonder if it will fit on the trunk of Vesta? Suppress radars, traffic cops and parking attendants. What is the price? Need it urgently
    3. 0
      3 October 2023 20: 03
  2. +2
    3 October 2023 05: 41
    Active scanning is easily detected... And pointing a missile at an active source is not at all difficult... How long will PINE stand until it is cut down???
    Until they enter the point source guidance mode into the IR homing head of any missile of any complex...
    1. +2
      3 October 2023 06: 20
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      Active scanning is easily detected...

      If the enemy has instruments and the operators lack the discipline to use them.
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      And pointing a missile at an active source is not at all difficult...
      Come on... To a narrowly, very narrowly focused source, and also not particularly powerful?! It’s sad if we have a military with such very poor knowledge...
      1. -2
        3 October 2023 23: 42
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Quote from tsvetahaki
        Active scanning is easily detected...

        If the enemy has instruments and the operators lack the discipline to use them.
        Quote from tsvetahaki
        And pointing a missile at an active source is not at all difficult...
        Come on... To a narrowly, very narrowly focused source, and also not particularly powerful?! It’s sad if we have a military with such very poor knowledge...

        Does the word “scanning” mean anything to you? Even though it’s super narrow, it still fits into binoculars?
        And the fact that PINE receives reflected, highly attenuated radiation - and it works, and the missile’s homing head receives the entire beam, and it’s good that it’s narrowly focused, without loss of energy, is it absorption of air??
        Really sad... stop
        1. 0
          4 October 2023 04: 21
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          Does the word “scanning” mean anything to you? Even though it’s super narrow, it still fits into binoculars?
          At a certain, very small moment in time, because this is a scanning, and not a continuous continuous exposure, as you imagine.
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          And the fact that PINE receives reflected, highly attenuated radiation - and it works, and the homing head of the missile receives the entire beam, and it’s good that it’s narrowly focused
          Almost the same narrowly targeted radiation arrives, and it is native, for which Sosna-N is precisely tailored. And in the seeker of the rocket, if we continue to consider this stupidity of yours, this beam will hit a maximum of once every 10 seconds (180 deg. 18 deg/sec) for a hundredth of a second, which is not enough for the normal operation of the seeker, if it still hits in principle. Therefore, the device has a specified limitation on the vertical field. And this is also taking into account the little detail that the seeker is aimed at a contrasting spot on the target, and not at the beam, the seeker is not aimed at the beam for a number of reasons.

          Quote from tsvetahaki
          Really sad...
          It’s sad, sad, one hope is that you are an illiterate schoolboy and not a military man.
    2. +2
      3 October 2023 12: 28
      It's very good that it's being discovered. Therefore, it is necessary to include a certain number of cheap imitators into the kit. And let Excalibur, worth a lot of greenery, fly into a device worth seven kopecks. Remember how in Yugoslavia anti-radar missiles were caught in microwave ovens?
      1. 0
        3 October 2023 23: 43
        Quote: Dmitriy22
        It's very good that it's being discovered. Therefore, it is necessary to include a certain number of cheap imitators into the kit. And let Excalibur, worth a lot of greenery, fly into a device worth seven kopecks. Remember how in Yugoslavia anti-radar missiles were caught in microwave ovens?

        Actually, for a cheap ATGM... any IR head...
        But you can also use a Tomahawk, of course, if you wish...
      2. +1
        3 October 2023 23: 48
        in Yugoslavia, were anti-radar missiles caught in microwaves?
        On radars from decommissioned MiG-29s. Anti-radar missiles are capable of distinguishing a modulated signal from the “noise” of a primitive decoy.
    3. +4
      3 October 2023 20: 35
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      Until they enter the point source guidance mode into the IR homing head of any missile of any complex...

      Such complexes do not exist in nature. And it is impossible to reflash/reprogram the Javellin, for example, because the seeker is of the wrong range. Everything needs to be developed anew, i.e. open R&D, hold a competition, test, produce, this story will take at least five years. And who will do this if PINE is in single copies at the front? Those. First, it will take a couple of years until PINE appears in commercial quantities, then five years to develop an anti-missile missile... During this time, even the padishah and the donkey will die.
      1. -2
        3 October 2023 23: 46
        Quote: Passing by
        Quote from tsvetahaki
        Until they enter the point source guidance mode into the IR homing head of any missile of any complex...

        Such complexes do not exist in nature. And it is impossible to reflash/reprogram the Javellin, for example, because the seeker is of the wrong range. Everything needs to be developed anew, i.e. open R&D, hold a competition, test, produce, this story will take at least five years. And who will do this if PINE is in single copies at the front? Those. First, it will take a couple of years until PINE appears in commercial quantities, then five years to develop an anti-missile missile... During this time, even the padishah and the donkey will die.

        The range is not quite the same, the longer wavelengths are mainly at the missile heads, but the brightness of the laser spot in most cases compensates for the drop in sensitivity - the range is just a sensitivity diagram...
        What about state tests... laughing in a war this is easy... an ATGM will work without re-wiring it according to SOSNA - they will use it without state tests, well, if it doesn’t work, they will decide by transmitting the coordinates of SOSNA, it’s difficult not to see the flash in the IR receiver...
        1. +2
          4 October 2023 11: 03
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          longer wavelengths are mainly at the missile heads, but the brightness of the laser spot in most cases compensates for the drop in sensitivity

          1) There is no bright spot there. You probably look at the photo in the article and think that there is some kind of megalaser that blinds even during the day. The laser there is of insignificant power, so that, after repeated amplification by optics, it does not damage the visual organs of its observers. Understand that the device picks up the reflection from the retina/matrix, amplified many times by optics. Plus, probably my 99% guess, there is an image intensifier there, which produces a point amplified thousands of times, visible in the photo in the article.
          2) Hypothetical television surveillance systems, aka some sights with visible range video cameras (not existing in reality), or reconnaissance stations like the Tiger SBRM, most likely will not see the laser beam either, because it is extremely low-power, point-like, pixel-sized, and appears once every a few seconds, it will simply be crushed by the anti-noise filters built into any modern camera. And if you turn off the filters, how will you isolate a periodic pixel from the background of wild noise inherent in absolutely any matrix? There is simply nothing to catch without AI, and AI is not a fact. In any case, no one has anything like this in their arsenal.
          3) Laser range is VISIBLE. Not IR, not thermal. I have not seen the specification, but this is not an assumption, it is a 100% axiom (why, see point 1). The missile seekers operate in IR. They are physically incapable of working in the visible range (including for the same reason why SOSNa’s range is strictly visible). No “sensitivity diagrams” will help here. Television seekers, for example in FPV drones, will also not see anything, see point 2, and in general, video cameras are so cheap that against the background of the noise of a budget matrix it is unrealistic to isolate something the size of a pixel even for AI.
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          will be decided by transmitting the coordinates of SOSNY

          To obtain coordinates, you need at least two observers with some kind of optical instruments (which, by the way, do not yet physically exist in service, except for that very SOSN). Why do you think that they will detect radiation sources and suppress them, but we won’t? What kind of strange logic is this? Isn't that what SOSNa was created for? And who has a more advantageous situation, from the point of view of resource expenditure, ours, with one observation point and one instrument, or the enemy, with two instruments and calculations required to neutralize SOSNA?
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          It’s difficult not to see the flash in the IR receiver...

          To summarize, the laser range is visible, all IR surveillance devices fly past. There will be no flashes in a regular video camera either, but every few seconds one of the pixels will blink, which, against the background of the noise of the matrix, means absolutely nothing for human perception. If the device is manual, then even the AI ​​will not be able to isolate something there, because the field of view does not periodically mix, plus it wanders from hand tremors.
  3. -1
    3 October 2023 06: 14
    Just recently there was an article about this complex. The principle of “repetition is the mother of learning” in action? Of course, everything that is aimed at increasing the effectiveness of combat work can only be welcomed.
  4. +2
    3 October 2023 07: 20
    But they said that nothing was being done here, the entire industry had been destroyed and there were only managers all around. Where are these talkers?
  5. +1
    3 October 2023 08: 22
    The thing is good. Here's a question. There is a function for suppressing the observer, i.e. The device will automatically cauterize the enemy’s retina. And how does this relate to application in the civilian security system, as the author suggests? Will I, for example, take a photo or something else optical, but without malicious intent, and there will be a security zone for the villa or something else, and without this fact being widely known? And then bam, and at best, the loss of vision will be temporary. So-so prospects.
    1. 0
      3 October 2023 08: 30
      The article contains a photograph with a caption
      Device "SOSN" without the possibility of neutralizing optics
    2. -2
      4 October 2023 18: 21
      The thing is not only good, but also very necessary. All that remains is to “put two and two together” - to give her the opportunity to work along the upper hemisphere. And then it will easily and simply detect all the “buzzers” flying overhead and burn their television cameras.
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    1. +1
      3 October 2023 15: 03
      Ryabov can be recognized by the very first paragraph. laughing
  7. -1
    3 October 2023 08: 51
    Sosna-N was used specifically to combat snipers.

    I wonder how this thing affects the sighting system of the same Javelin? And in general for any anti-tank systems?
    1. 0
      3 October 2023 20: 38
      No way, the Javellin has a thermal imager, and the SOSNA has a visible range suppression laser.
  8. 0
    3 October 2023 09: 29
    But what about the miracle device with the selection of the reflected signal from glass fragments and other reflective materials?
    1. -1
      3 October 2023 09: 57
      Now, lay bottles on the floors on the windows with the bottoms facing the enemy and see how Sosna will carry out the selection.
      1. +1
        3 October 2023 14: 06
        Go ahead, conduct an experiment, go to war, lay out the bottles and without any equipment they will quickly prove the stupidity of such ideas.
        1. 0
          7 October 2023 20: 18
          Are we writing from a trench on the boot of a fallen comrade?
    2. 0
      3 October 2023 11: 34
      There may be problems with reflective stripes on workwear. But this is solved by software filters based on the intensity of the response, in theory. Military use of LBS is burdened with a problem common to all active systems: if you see, they see you. Accordingly, the whole question is who will strike first, and who has more opportunities for this in a specific section of the LBS.
    3. 0
      3 October 2023 20: 44
      Quote: Ryaruav
      But what about the miracle device with the selection of the reflected signal from glass fragments and other reflective materials?

      With this, such devices are doing very well, because only reflections of the scanning laser, amplified by the observer’s optics, pass through the filter. Those. Only reflections from the retina or camera matrix, amplified several times, are visible. Those. just binoculars, without an observer, will not give a signal, reflections from a mirror, glass, glare from waves will not pass through the filter the same way..
  9. +3
    3 October 2023 12: 26
    The Chinese are installing a similar system on MBT.
  10. +4
    3 October 2023 12: 31
    Have you tried working across the sky? Suppressing UAV optics is, in my opinion, more relevant. And if the laser is a little more powerful and burns it to the mother of the Christmas tree...
    1. 0
      3 October 2023 14: 04
      It is important here that your UAVs do not fall under attack.
  11. +2
    3 October 2023 14: 03
    Once again, there is no need to assert the fact “it has no analogues in the world” without verification. I can definitely say that the PRC army uses such devices, they are already in service. And there they really defeat a sniper or observer. They use a laser that “damages the retina of the eye,” these devices are installed on equipment and used in wearable versions. As for the Sosna. This device is also used in our special forces. Why not ask the experts on the effectiveness of this device. President of Venezuela (remember?). It was the Sosna that did not allow the sniper work towards the goal.
    1. +1
      3 October 2023 18: 35
      Hello. In the USSR, the PAPV “Portable Automatic Optical-Electrical Countermeasures Device” was created and put into service.
  12. -5
    3 October 2023 15: 47
    I doubt the successful use of this thing at the front. The enemy can simply saturate the LBS with “glass” simulators of sights costing 100 rubles. per pack, and how does Sosna distinguish the real from the false? Even broken glass will probably be identified as a target.
  13. 0
    3 October 2023 19: 56
    If the complex works only based on glare, then it has problems: there are various coatings for optics, one of them eliminates glare. Surely it is applied to military sights.
  14. 0
    3 October 2023 21: 14
    These expensive things will cheat cheaply: install optics in this square in large quantities; lenses, monocles, all on stands, in large quantities in the area where real optics work with a fighter. The device will not be able to select the correct option from a huge number. In front of the device there will be dozens of real, but empty optical devices.
  15. 0
    3 October 2023 22: 33
    Quote: DrVintorez
    Please!!! write the author at the beginning of the article!!!

    Well, that's... But looking at the author yourself BEFORE reading and refraining from it is weak0?
  16. 0
    4 October 2023 11: 14
    It’s time to introduce a video camera optics scanner paired with a matrix burner, which is just the thing for fighting drones.
  17. +1
    4 October 2023 12: 42
    In the early 90s they brought a similar product to the detachment. An asvc was included with the device. Experienced. Operator and shooter. I saw the device with IR optics, illumination for night vision devices, with a supporting scanner the device saw binoculars and ordinary optical devices up to 1,5 km. Gave target instructions to the shooter. There were no track shooters from the ASVK to reach 1,5 km. But this is not the main thing; on the adjacent one, all the ZNP found their way in. The most effective combination turned out to be with zgu. They put perfume in their trousers at a time. An excellent thing against ambushes and snipers. How will it be xs at SVO. We need to write new methods.
  18. 0
    4 October 2023 22: 04
    This device is definitely needed. We cannot replace stationary and mobile facilities in the protection of objects. But at the front. Here you need a clear understanding of its application. For this device itself is visible to the naked eye. Disguise it however you like. For he himself is little more than an emitter. So is a set of lenses. I would put it on a tank. Like a regular one. Detected lens activity... Automatically put a landmine there. Hang it on a drone. For scanning advanced... You never know where this device can be used. The main thing is that it exists. And in sufficient quantity. And you can figure out where and how to use it.
  19. 0
    14 January 2024 00: 25
    It would be more correct to mount a Kord 12,7 machine gun or an AGS-30/Baikal grenade launcher on the anti-sniper complex, in addition to the “laser pointer”-suppressor.

    A burst of 50 shots from Kord or 30 grenades from an AGS will neutralize a sniper/sniper pair/sniper trio much more reliably than a laser beam, which will only damage the sighting device on one rifle...
  20. 0
    14 January 2024 00: 26
    It would be more correct to mount a Kord 12,7 machine gun or an AGS-30/Baikal grenade launcher on the anti-sniper complex, in addition to the “laser pointer”-suppressor.

    A burst of 50 shots from Kord or 30 grenades from an AGS will neutralize a sniper/sniper pair/sniper trio much more reliably than a laser beam, which will only damage the sighting device on one rifle...
  21. 0
    April 8 2024 23: 10
    I wonder if it can be used to detect the PDF of drones. They are guided visually. Detect by glare, and suppress by burning out the camera matrix with the same laser. If they create such a complex, there will be no price for it.