Indian CAO in the international arms market

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Indian CAO in the international arms market
Self-propelled gun MArG 155-BR


In recent years, the Indian defense industry not only provides for the needs of its own army, but also tries to look for foreign buyers for its products. In particular, self-propelled artillery guns of new types have certain export prospects. One combat vehicle of this kind has already found its customer, while others are participating in foreign tenders.



Modern developments


Since the beginning of the last decade, Kalyani Strategic Systems Limited (KSSL), part of Bharat Forge Limited and the Kalyani Group, has been developing modern and advanced artillery systems. To date, guns in calibers up to 155 mm have been created in towed and self-propelled versions. In particular, by the end of the tenth years, they developed and demonstrated a light 155-mm howitzer UHL - a kind of analogue of the American M777.

At the beginning of 2020, at one of the Indian exhibitions, KSSL for the first time showed promotional materials for a new project, designated as MArG 155-BR (Multi-terrain Artillery Gun). This project involved the construction of a self-propelled gun based on a serial automobile chassis and artillery units from the UHL system. At the end of next year, an official presentation of a full-fledged self-propelled gun, probably a prototype, took place at the Bharat Forge plant in Pune.

The development organization argued that the CAO MArG 155-BR has a great future and should be of interest to the customer. The product was shown to the command of the Indian Army, and it received high marks. However, things did not go further than praise. As far as is known, the self-propelled gun is still being tested, and the Indian ground forces have not yet made a decision on its introduction into service and purchase. Perhaps the necessary activities will be completed in the foreseeable future, and then the appropriate conclusions will be drawn.

Cannon on chassis


The product MArG 155-BR is a CAO made by mounting an artillery unit on a truck chassis. In general, it does not have any fundamental differences from a number of modern foreign models, although the use of a two-axle chassis is noted. The developer noted that this is the only modern 155-mm self-propelled gun with a barrel length of 39 klb, made on a 4x4 chassis.


The vehicle used in the project is equipped with an armored double-row cab with a cabover layout. The cargo platform is dedicated to the artillery system, ammunition, etc. The stern has a folding support plate. The total length of the combat vehicle in the stowed position does not exceed 9,4 m, the combat weight is 18 tons. The ability to quickly transfer along roads and work on rough terrain or off-road is declared.

The self-propelled gun is armed with a 155-mm 39-klb TC-20 gun system, a version of the UHL howitzer. A rifled barrel with a muzzle brake is mounted on recoil devices and guidance mechanisms. All-Steel prefabricated carriage elements are used (UHL carriage can also be made of titanium or have a mixed design). Horizontal guidance is provided within 25 ° from the longitudinal axis with an elevation of up to 72 °.

In boxes for ammunition MArG 155-BR transports 18 rounds of separate loading. The gun can make the first three shots in 30 seconds. The steady rate of long-term shooting is 42 rds / h. When using conventional projectiles, the range reaches the standard 24 km. Active-reactive ammunition increases this parameter.

In the international market


Apparently, KSSL / Bharat Forge from the very beginning planned to sell the MArG 155-BR product not only to their own army, but also to foreign customers. Advertising materials for this project were shown at various exhibitions, as well as applications were submitted for participation in foreign tenders. To date, the first results have been obtained in this area.

In early November 2022, Bharat Limited announced that its subsidiary KSSL received an export order for the production of 155-mm artillery systems. Several items worth $155,5 million will be manufactured and handed over to the customer over the next three years. At the same time, the exact type of guns, their number and recipient were not mentioned in the official message.


Self-propelled gun with ATAGS gun

Soon the Indian media received the missing data from their sources in the defense department. It was alleged that the customer under the new contract is Armenia, which wants to upgrade its artillery fleet. The subject of the order was a 155-mm SAO MArG 155-BR on a two-axle chassis.

At the end of July 2023, the Indian side reported on the shipment of the first batch of unnamed products to a foreign customer. According to some reports, we can talk about MArG 155-BR self-propelled guns or about ammunition for them. One way or another, the contract, presumably, with Armenia was signed almost a year ago, and we can already expect its first results.

Long-barreled sample


Since 2013, Bharat Forge, together with Tata, commissioned by the defense development organization DRDO, has been creating a promising 155-mm howitzer ATAGS (Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System). Testing of this product began in 2016 and ended in 2022. The issue of its purchase for the Indian army is now being decided.

In October last year, development organizations showed for the first time a self-propelled version of such a weapon. The ATAGS artillery unit, characterized by greater weight and size, was installed on a four-axle Ashok Leyland HMV chassis. The resulting model is said to be not inferior in mobility and fire characteristics to modern foreign self-propelled guns with similar weapons and chassis.

The MArG 155 based on the ATAGS gun is already applying for an export contract. Currently, the Brazilian ground forces are holding a tender for the purchase of 36 self-propelled guns in 155 mm caliber with a long barrel. Several well-known foreign companies submitted applications for the competition. In addition, it recently became known that the Indian Bharat Forge and KSSL will compete for the contract. Whether they will be able to beat their competitors will become known in the foreseeable future.


With enhanced performance


The self-propelled version of the ATAGS gun is similar in architecture to the MArG 155-BR and foreign models. However, there are differences associated with the use of a long-barreled gun and a different chassis. First of all, they manifest themselves in higher tactical and technical characteristics.

The HMV chassis is a four-axle all-wheel drive vehicle. It has a two-row protected cabin. An additional cabin is provided on the cargo platform, probably for fire control. The artillery system and base plate are located in the stern.

The ATAGS gun has improved firing characteristics. The firing range of a conventional projectile reaches 32 km, and an active-reactive projectile – 45 km. Horizontal aiming is carried out in the front sector with a width of 50°, vertical – up to 72°. The rate of fire of the self-propelled ATAGS is no different from the TC-20.

"Made in India"


Over the past few years, India has been implementing a major program to localize the production of various products, and the defense industry plays a special role in it. Defense enterprises are required to establish licensed production of foreign developments, as well as create their own designs. So, Bharat Forge, KSSL and other enterprises are trying to develop domestic artillery systems that are not inferior to foreign ones.

To date, the Indian industry has introduced a whole range of new artillery systems in different calibers and designs. Such weapons are being tested and should enter service with the Indian Army. In addition, new developments are now being introduced to the international market. The first export order for self-developed self-propelled guns has already been received, and another one is expected. It can be assumed that India will not stop there and will continue to develop a promising direction, hoping to rearm its own army and make money by re-equipping others.
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  1. -4
    5 September 2023 04: 32
    Very precisely and subtly the West (and London) felt the growth of Asia. Kipling passed on knowledge (and intuition?) to the people. For centuries to come it is clear that for 600 years Mr. European fattened. And now the end of the world order. Also until 2500.
    And the Swedes were taken over.
    What will we attach to our train? Armenia? Tokaev? Or part of Kazakhstan? Western Uyghurs will be under China in 2100? Almaty and faithful. Khorog and Dushanbe.
    Whose Baltic Sea will it be in 2100? With 3-year state budgets there can be no answers. Even the development of roads and education is not enough. What about civilizations?
    1. 0
      5 September 2023 06: 49
      Quote: antivirus
      What about civilizations?

      As for civilization, Russia has no particular choice. Either fully join the Judeo-Christian (aka European, aka Atlantic, aka white man civilization), which is generally closest to Russia, or fall under the Chinese one (because China simply doesn’t know how to have equal relations, it either subjugates, or obeys), or be devoured by the Koranic civilization, because Islam does not tolerate heterodoxy. Can you say you endure? Ask the Greeks or Serbs, or the same brothers of the Bulgarians, whether it was good for them under the Turks.
      1. -4
        5 September 2023 08: 16
        And try to revive your faith and, on its basis, offer the world a new (well-forgotten old), a world that has become disillusioned with the constant lies and hypocrisy of Jewish Christianity, radicalism and all the same hypocrisy of Jewish Islam?
        The future lies in the return of Vedic beliefs or this civilization will not survive.
      2. +1
        5 September 2023 08: 34
        Before the Crusades, Christians in the Middle East lived quite well, much better than farmers in Europe.
        1. +1
          5 September 2023 18: 29
          Quote: IImonolitII
          Before the Crusades, Christians in the Middle East lived quite well, much better than farmers in Europe.
          That Islam was more tolerant. And then a trend of Salafism (its even more radical expression, Wahhabism) appeared and crushed a large part of the Islamic world, and in those countries that were not crushed, it also has influence. ISIS (banned in Russia) did not appear out of nowhere.
      3. +1
        5 September 2023 13: 25
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: antivirus
        What about civilizations?

        As for civilization, Russia has no particular choice. Either fully join the Judeo-Christian (aka European, aka Atlantic, aka white man civilization), which is generally closest to Russia, or fall under the Chinese one (because China simply doesn’t know how to have equal relations, it either subjugates, or obeys), or be devoured by the Koranic civilization, because Islam does not tolerate heterodoxy. Can you say you endure? Ask the Greeks or Serbs, or the same brothers of the Bulgarians, whether it was good for them under the Turks.

        Why ask? Myth-making, of course, is a good thing and a winning one in any case, but sometimes there are rational and honest people. The Russian Commander-in-Chief in the Balkans, General Totleben, responded to all the sympathetic groans and hand-wringing of brother-in-laws even at that time:
        “The situation was approximately the same during the war of 1877-1878, when Russia also liberated Bulgaria from the “yoke” - this time Turkish. The liberation of Christians from under the yoke is a chimera. Bulgarians live more prosperously and happier than Russian peasants; their sincere “The desire is for the liberators to leave the country as soon as possible,” noted Russian Commander-in-Chief General Totleben.”
      4. 0
        20 November 2023 11: 41
        Did the Islamic civilization devour the Southern Slavs? Not to mention religion, the Turks couldn’t even impose their own language!
  2. 0
    5 September 2023 05: 27
    Product MArG 155-BR... 155-mm 39-klb gun system TC-20... on a 4x4 chassis

    In such a short layout, biaxial, it is advantageous to move in mountainous areas. Just like a specialist under the Indian Armed Forces for presence in the mountainous areas in Jammu and Kashmir, in the north, in the highlands in disputed areas with China.
    1. 0
      5 September 2023 06: 53
      And try to drive off the asphalt after a rain on one in the NWO zone. However, the tractor will need no less than Kirovets to drag it to the firing position.
      1. +2
        5 September 2023 07: 16
        Quote: Nagan
        And try to drive off the asphalt after a rain on one in the NWO zone. However, the tractor will need no less than Kirovets to drag it to the firing position.

        If I'm not mistaken, are you a Siberian, originally from Krasnoyarsk?
        Have you ever driven a GAZ-66 (Shishiga), GAZ-3308 Sadko? 2,5 - 3 tons. lucky along the taiga clearing.
        There dirt is not worse than black soil. How much does this howitzer weigh? Moreover, he wrote about highlands.
        The ULH howitzer was developed in three versions from different structural materials of the carriage and recoil devices - steel (All Steel, total weight 6,8 tons), titanium (Titanium, weight 4,8 tons) and mixed (Advance Hybrid).
        For a self-propelled wheeled installation, the Indians still have a four-axle chassis. It seems that a howitzer weighing 4 tons is installed on a two-axle wheeled installation (4x4,8).
        hi
        1. -2
          5 September 2023 08: 36
          Directly in the article it is written that on a 2-axle machine there is an All Steel carriage. Chukcha is not a reader?
          1. -1
            5 September 2023 08: 54
            Quote: IImonolitII
            Directly in the article it is written that on a 2-axle machine there is an All Steel carriage. Chukcha is not a reader?

            I wrote about carriages in relation to weight (is it indicated in the article?). All Steel is used as the most proven system.
            It is planned to install the artillery system in 2 other versions.
            The weight of the two-axle chassis is 18 tons. according to the manufacturer (curb weight without howitzer).
            Our dialogue was about the patency of the chassis.
            In addition to arrogance, you essentially have something to say about the all-terrain chassis, or
            "Where the infantry will not pass.
            And the armored train won't rush
            A gloomy tank will not crawl,
            There, IImonolitII will crawl on a sled,
            And nothing will happen to him?"
        2. 0
          5 September 2023 09: 06
          Quote: Lynx2000
          If I'm not mistaken, are you a Siberian, originally from Krasnoyarsk?
          Have you ever driven a GAZ-66 (Shishiga), GAZ-3308?
          Well, actually, I am a native Leningrader in the third generation, and not only beyond the Urals, but beyond the Volga, I didn’t stop by. And I saw the GAZ-66. I didn’t have to go, but I imagine the possibilities. But I also had to see how in the field (what student, and even more so an engineer, did not go to the carrot? am ) a wheeled tractor (in my opinion "Belarus", but I could be mistaken, not a specialist in tractors, and a lot of years have passed since then) sat down so that I had to call the DT-75, which in turn dragged to a more passable place first "Belarus ", and then the cart he was pulling. So I know the difference in the patency of wheeled and tracked vehicles not only from books.
          1. 0
            5 September 2023 10: 17
            Sorry, so I made a mistake, confused with another. Yes
            Everything depends on the “spacer” between the steering wheel and the pedals, on the device of the chassis (portal axles, levers and drives, increased ground clearance), and the size of the wheels. Foolishly, you can also ZIL-49061 "Blue Bird" in the mud, swamp, plant / drown.
            At the Belarus tractor, even modifications with a rear-wheel drive MTZ-80 (50) due to large-diameter drive rear wheels, coupled with blocking, contribute to good cross-country ability. Caterpillar tractors stick well to the bottom and row them in vain.
      2. 0
        5 September 2023 18: 14
        Quote: Nagan
        And try to drive off the asphalt after a rain on one in the NWO zone. However, the tractor will need no less than Kirovets to drag it to the firing position.

        The caterpillar is needed where you need to drag artillery after the tank corps leaving for the gap. And if you have a static front with sluggish projectile throwing, then spending money on a tracked chassis is completely unnecessary. Well, of course, if you have 5000 caterpillar self-propelled guns in stock, then this changes things, but from the new one they are hardly needed.
  3. Eug
    0
    5 September 2023 06: 19
    As for me, the two-axle version is perfect for regimental and mountain artillery instead of 122 mm.
  4. +1
    5 September 2023 07: 33
    Wheeled self-propelled guns have undeniable advantages: mobility, quick transfer, chassis life (2 thousand only for running-in, and harp 2 thousand for almost complete replacement), weight (bridges, airplanes), cheaper than tracked ones, unification with similar trucks. We just ran into a harp and that’s it. And shouldn’t you mind that the wheels get stuck or are cut by splinters, but is it better to carry the towed ones with non-armored trucks? They don’t like to book anything with us, one will come and the payment is ready. Or a block of Msta, for the price of 3-4 wheels. The Danes, Suzans, Archers and Caesars fight well, where are ours?
  5. +7
    5 September 2023 07: 47
    39 calibers and a range of 24 km. Our mallows and mstas have larger calibers and shorter ranges. Well, or the same amount max.
    The school of designing guns and howitzers in Russia has been lost. Now they are tinkering with the old 2A64 developments, with minor modifications. The 2A88, although an old Soviet design, cannot be brought to fruition.
    Nobody even mentions new howitzers.
    Designers and technologists have not been needed in Russia for a long time, engineers were needed to service the purchased imported equipment.
    1. 0
      5 September 2023 08: 22
      The purchased imported, mostly imported engineers are serviced, we needed more affective manners, which came up with the moves "we will buy FSE abroad" ...
  6. +1
    5 September 2023 11: 36
    What? They fly to the moon, they can construct guns. They have a tradition:
    1. 0
      5 September 2023 18: 45
      Quote: Rumata
      What? They fly to the moon, they can construct guns. They have a tradition:

      laughing laughing laughing
  7. +2
    5 September 2023 15: 29
    I don’t want to argue, however. For everyone who truly believes that wheeled self-propelled guns are better. March 2023, at one of the stations not far from the border, the Msta battery was unloaded. The Ukrainians began shelling. Arta walked across the field into the night. The field was over-watered and soggy. I thought they would get stuck, but they left, the main thing was that they left on more than one track, and the wheeled vehicles were forced to “hide” wherever possible. This is a living example. Of course, there should be wheeled self-propelled guns just like tracked ones, but we shouldn’t go too far.
  8. -2
    5 September 2023 15: 52
    We have 18 billion green rupees stuck there in India, so I would spend it on purchasing long-barreled guns, missiles and shells. It’s not even the guns that are important here, the main thing here is to win India over to your side, and what better confirmation than a military contract!
    1. -1
      5 September 2023 18: 09
      Quote: APASUS
      We have 18 billion green rupees stuck there in India, so I would spend it on purchasing long-barreled guns, missiles and shells. It’s not even the guns that are important here, the main thing here is to win India over to your side, and what better confirmation than a military contract!

      India needs an ally against China, with whom the Indians have a territorial dispute (although which of its neighbors does not have a territorial dispute with China?), and Russia is now unlikely to be capable of such a role.