Zumwalt will receive hypersonic missiles

The destroyer Zumwalt, which returned to San Diego due to an undisclosed maintenance problem after a test cruise to test the control system, arrived in Pascagoula on August 19. The ship is currently undergoing upgrades, including the installation of a Navy hypersonic missile system with CPS missiles.

"The modernization ensures that the Zumwalt remains one of the most technologically advanced and lethal ships in the US Navy,"

Commander Arlo Abrahamson, a spokesman for the Navy's surface forces, told Navy Times in a statement earlier this month.

The service intends to deploy hypersonic weapon on a destroyer by 2025, and Lockheed Martin announced in February that it was preparing a shipborne hypersonic missile launcher for flight testing in 2024. Lockheed is developing the launcher, weapons control system and other components. The missiles, designed to arm two guided missile destroyers - USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) and USS Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001), will be placed in ship-based UVP - four-block VPM (Virginia Payload Module) modules with four missiles each, 16 missiles per every ship. Missile - RGM - 51A CPS (Conventional Prompt Strike) - jointly developed by the Navy fleet and the army. The universal solid-fuel MRBM AUR is two-stage, length is 10,44 meters, midsection diameter is 887 millimeters. Starting weight – 7400 kilograms. The maximum flight range of the missile is 1000 nautical miles (1850 km), equipped with a maneuvering warhead with hypersonic flight speed Common Hypersonic Glide Body (C-HGB) in the Block 1 modification, theoretically capable of reaching speeds of more than 6000 km/h. The weight of the warhead is 800 pounds (360 kilograms). It is possible to equip it with both a conventional and nuclear warhead; theoretically, it will allow it to accommodate any nuclear warhead available in the US arsenal, from “light” ones, such as the W-61, to “heavy” ones, such as the W-88.

Meanwhile, the army is going to introduce its MGM - 51A LRHW (Long Range Hypersonic Weapon) missile, called Dark Eagle, by the end of this year.

On Aug. 29, the Navy awarded HII a $154,8 million contract to modernize the destroyer Zumwalt, after the company earlier in January awarded the shipbuilder a $10,5 million preliminary contract for the engineering design to modernize the Zumwalt and the guided-missile destroyer Michael Monsoor.

USS Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001) will receive its hypersonic missile suite of 16 RGM – 51A CPS missiles "during the period of future modernization", says the HII press release.

“I am honored to serve Zamwalt’s sailors and welcome them to our community,” Ingalls Shipbuilding shipbuilding manager Bruce Knowles said in a press release. “The Ingalls team is ready to support you in this important work.”

Last fall, the Zumwalt completed a three-month combat tour in the Western Pacific, where it conducted a series of joint and bilateral operations in its first combat deployment.

The first combat deployment of the Zumwalt destroyer with the new hypersonic missile weapon is expected in late 2026 or early 2027 calendar year, it will operate as part of the US 7th Fleet and the US Indo-Pacific Command.

Comments

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The question is not whether Zumvolt will have hypersonic missiles or not: it will, by the 25th or by the 30th, but it will; and that Russia had to this multiple times more.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

The question is not whether Zumvolt will have hypersonic missiles or not: it will, by the 25th or by the 30th, but it will; and that Russia had to this multiple times more.

Hm. Are you an official or a pensioner of Gazprom?

[Romario_Argo]

question
and how will Zumwalt (VI 15000) give target designation for hypersonic anti-ship missiles (?)
even on Arleigh Burke destroyers there are NO over-the-horizon radars
again on satellite channel (?)
- and if greetings arrive from EW Murmansk-BN for 5000 km
in the Russian Navy, even on missile boats pr.1241 (VI 550 tons), there are monolith over-the-horizon radars with a target designation range for anti-ship missiles in the passive mode of 750 km, in the active mode 1500 km.
*** ZGRLS monolith, mineral, monument, positive
https://typhoon-jsc.ru/index.php/production-and-services/special-purpose/monolith-b

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Romario_Argo

question
and how will Zumwalt (VI 15000) give target designation for hypersonic anti-ship missiles (?)
even on Arleigh Burke destroyers there are NO over-the-horizon radars
again on satellite channel (?)
- and if greetings arrive from EW Murmansk-BN for 5000 km
in the Russian Navy, even on missile boats pr.1241 (VI 550 tons), there are monolith over-the-horizon radars with a target designation range for anti-ship missiles in the passive mode of 750 km, in the active mode 1500 km.
*** ZGRLS monolith, mineral, monument, positive
https://typhoon-jsc.ru/index.php/production-and-services/special-purpose/monolith-b

For many years you have been writing with numbers about how the Moskva RK will destroy the entire US Sixth Fleet ...
So what's up with the Stone Flower? Does not exceed?

[Rumata]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

so that Russia has a multiple of this.

Sarmat can carry 4 Vanguards. Speed ​​25 Mach.

[Arsen1]

and how do you plan to aim the vanguard at the target?) and what is the dead zone of the Sarmatian flight?)

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Rumata

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

so that Russia has a multiple of this.

Sarmat can carry 4 Vanguards. Speed ​​25 Mach.

Are you real now?
There 2 will barely fit ...
And the speed is 25 already?

It feels like a cult of fishermen is here...

[Lech from Android.]

Will the Zumwalt survive the impact of the Zircon?
That is the question.

[Romario_Argo]

Zumwalt will NOT withstand the strike of Zircon anti-ship missiles - BUT, even this is secondary
Primary - Zumwalt will see Zircon anti-ship missiles only 20 km away. EPR = 0,001 sq.m.
(1cm by 1cm)
flight time about 6,5 seconds
hardware processing for issuing target designation for missiles by the Aegis system = 8 seconds
missing 1,5 seconds
and even the circular dead zone of the destroyer Zumwalt for SM-3 and SM-6 = 5 km
and it still takes 1,5 seconds + 2 seconds to start missiles, accelerate and tilt towards the target
minus 5 seconds
those. Em Zumwalt should see the Zircon anti-ship missiles at least 40 km away - and this is the minimum detection line for the Onyx anti-ship missiles - the previous generation
and even in this case, the consumption of missiles will be 6 per 1 RCC Zircon
a salvo from 2 anti-ship missiles Zircon, Em Zumwalt will not be able to bring down physically. in 6 seconds only 12 missiles will be able to start, of which only 6 of 1 anti-ship missiles will be able to work - the 2nd anti-ship missile Zirkon will destroy Zumwalt

[Romario_Argo]

thanks for the criticism, short and clear (-)
and here again not a single argument
The US Navy urgently needs to conclude a contract with our Rosoboronexport for the supply of Pantsir-ME air defense systems for installation on destroyers of the Arleigh Burke and Zumwalt types
as well as for supply
- Monolith over-the-horizon radar for issuing target designation for American hypersonic anti-ship missiles
- SAM Redoubt with SAM 9M96E2
and in this form, the commanders of US Navy destroyers will not have to worry about it - overboard

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Zumwalt will NOT withstand the strike of Zircon anti-ship missiles - BUT, even this is secondary
Primary - Zumwalt will see Zircon anti-ship missiles only 20 km away. EPR = 0,001 sq.m.
(1cm by 1cm)
flight time about 6,5 seconds
hardware processing for issuing target designation for missiles by the Aegis system = 8 seconds
missing 1,5 seconds
and even the circular dead zone of the destroyer Zumwalt for SM-3 and SM-6 = 5 km
and it still takes 1,5 seconds + 2 seconds to start missiles, accelerate and tilt towards the target
minus 5 seconds
those. Em Zumwalt should see the Zircon anti-ship missiles at least 40 km away - and this is the minimum detection line for the Onyx anti-ship missiles - the previous generation
and even in this case, the consumption of missiles will be 6 per 1 RCC Zircon
a salvo from 2 anti-ship missiles Zircon, Em Zumwalt will not be able to bring down physically. in 6 seconds only 12 missiles will be able to start, of which only 6 of 1 anti-ship missiles will be able to work - the 2nd anti-ship missile Zirkon will destroy Zumwalt

Well, that's nonsense.
The flight altitude of Zircon in marching mode is far beyond 20 km.
It will be visible in its plasma cloud several hundred kilometers away.
Almost since launch.
Zumwalt does not walk alone, around him is a full-fledged network-centric group of several ships with a combined air defense based on Aegis.
They can create at least 10 missiles from each ship at a time in the air, and since the order is spaced, they will have sufficient reaction time.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

The question is not whether Zumvolt will have hypersonic missiles or not: it will, by the 25th or by the 30th, but it will; and that Russia had to this multiple times more.

Hm. Are you an official or a pensioner of Gazprom?

Homo sum.

[TermNachTer]

So far, this is all in the realm of theory, because Congress still doubts that they will receive hypersonic weapons in the foreseeable future.

[Narrator]

I have always been interested in their request for performance characteristics for their hypersonic missiles. Because the news that they're failing... is baffling. In a word, it is not clear what they requested from the developers. And this should be treated with caution.

[Vladimir80]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Will the Zumwalt survive the impact of the Zircon?
That is the question

Not only - will the zircon have target designation or will it just fly somewhere, will there be at least 100 of these zircons, or will import substitution be needed again ... In general, you are right, there are questions!

[letinant]

Quote: Vladimir80

Not only - will the zircon have target designation or will it just fly somewhere, will there be at least 100 pieces of these zircons, or will imports need to be replaced again

I draw a conclusion from your words. You don't know how to target anti-ship missiles?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: letinant

I draw a conclusion from your words. You don't know how to target anti-ship missiles?

And what about guidance? The question is target detection and target designation. If you have the exact position of the target and its correct classification, there will be no problems with targeting.
The problem is that this discovery has not yet been made. MA reconnaissance aviation rested in Bose back in the 90s, the satellite constellation is 4 passive radio reconnaissance satellites and one active radar reconnaissance.

[Eduard Egorov]

"of course, the anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile does not have a zircon, a guidance system" what they did to launch it into nowhere for hypersound or something! In general, when you write, in what place do you think? What for a missile without a target for indication and detection, and even an expensive one with hypersound. Yes, any test, you no longer need to point somewhere, or do you think that the beatings of the test, she flies the devil knows where, or after all, they don’t point at something, at some goal. . Write more this is Western, liberal, pot nonsense

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Eduard Egorov

"of course, the anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile does not have a zircon, a guidance system" what they did to launch it into nowhere for hypersound or something! In general, when you write, in what place do you think?

I am addressing your question to you. Where to launch a missile if the target detection range of its GOS is a multiple of the flight range?
In real life, the launch of a long-range anti-ship missile is carried out exactly in the square where the target will be located by the time the missile approaches. And the capture of the target of the seeker of the anti-ship missile itself occurs already at the final stage of the flight. But for this it is necessary that the position of the target and the EDC are at least approximately known - otherwise the rocket will really fly nowhere.
By onboard means, the carrier (or the GOS itself before launch) cannot detect and capture a target for 800 km - there will not be enough flight altitude and radar power.

Quote: Eduard Egorov

What for a missile without a target for indication and detection, and even an expensive one with hypersound.

And this is a question for our military. Which went along the Soviet path of long-range anti-ship missiles, while forgetting that these missiles were part of a system that included the "Legend" and a crowd of RC aircraft and helicopters. And it was this part of the system that was responsible for ensuring that on the anti-ship missile carrier they knew which square to launch the missile into.

Quote: Eduard Egorov

Yes, any test, you no longer need to point somewhere, or do you think that the beatings of the test, she flies the devil knows where, or after all, they don’t point at something, at some goal.

So in tests, the position of the target is known in advance.
And in real work, the goal must first be found. In order not to shoot with expensive missiles, as in the Naval battle, in squares - in the hope that someone is there.
And now we have a situation where the range of the anti-ship missiles is greater than the range of target detection.

[Negro]

Quote: Alexey RA

these missiles were part of a system that included the "Legend" and a crowd of aircraft and helicopters of the RC.

All this economy in reality never existed. At least in working order.

[Repellent]

Quote: Negro

Quote: Alexey RA

these missiles were part of a system that included the "Legend" and a crowd of aircraft and helicopters of the RC.

All this economy in reality never existed. At least in working order.

How do you know, Ukrainian African American?

[Sergey39]

Of course, the Americans will install hypersonic missiles not only on the Zimvolts and on other operational Arleigh Burke ships, but also on promising ones.
First, they need to successfully test and adopt hypersonic missiles. Today, they have nothing to report.

[dmiitriy]

Is there room in Arleigh-Burke for such hefty rockets (in height)?

[spirit]

(height)?

Not now, but if the tests are successful, they will most likely be put into the "limited" series of Berks as a temporary hut, and then this mine will be standard on new generation destroyers. Most likely

[SovAr238A]

Quote from: dmiitriy

Is there room in Arleigh-Burke for such hefty rockets (in height)?

What prevents you from putting an updated UVP on Burke?
With more height?
What would stick out like Daring's by 2 meters?
Costs of $100 million per ship?
So it's a waste for them

Once upon a time, UVP was also impossible, especially on cruisers with beam launchers ...
Remember the result?

[Narrator]

I wrote above that the question is not about missiles, but about what the Americans consider "hypersonic missiles." Let's not clow around, otherwise North Korea has hypersonic missiles, and an advanced country with the best technical universities cannot create? I think that their problems are in their perception and requirements for missiles. Maybe they slammed into the requirements the speed is 2 times higher than ours and China.

[Rumata]

If they are already making stealth ships, then why don’t they make semi-submersible ones, in which the waterline is level with the upper deck, and above the water there is only the captain’s cabin, antennas, snorkel, ventilation? The idea is over a hundred years old!

[PPD]

The idea is over a hundred years old!

The monument to the deceased monitor Rusalka is also more than 100 years old. With her, in addition to the crew, our hope in the field of naval artillery went to the bottom.
That's why they don't do it.
That's why submarines exist.
And they could not replace surface ships, although there were ideas.
Pl little one is enough to remember.
Nobody canceled the radio horizon, by the way, and electricity with storms, wind and short circuits too.

[dmiitriy]

In a strong storm, this structure will at times feel like a submarine when the waves hit it. Then it’s easier to make a full-fledged submarine.

[Rumata]

Quote from: dmiitriy

In a strong storm, this structure will at times feel like a submarine when the waves hit it. Then it’s easier to make a full-fledged submarine.

SEMI submersible ship because it is SEMI because it can rise by blowing through the tanks. It is a hundred times simpler than a submarine because the hull must withstand an external pressure of no more than 1 ... 1,5 atmospheres and it has a snorkel. You don't need batteries or a reactor.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Rumata

SEMI submersible ship because it is SEMI because it can rise by blowing through the tanks.

Great. That is, in addition to the reinforced hull, the Central City Hospital will also be needed. And they will be followed by equalizing, trim and substitution. Plus VVD for all this. And all this will entail additional mass and volume.

And the funniest thing will be when it comes to detection and guidance. What radio horizon will the radar of a semi-submersible ship have?
And yes, what contours for a ship with a variable environment should be taken - classic surface or Albacore? And what power plant will be needed in this case to compensate for non-optimal hydrodynamics?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Rumata

Quote from: dmiitriy

In a strong storm, this structure will at times feel like a submarine when the waves hit it. Then it’s easier to make a full-fledged submarine.

SEMI submersible ship because it is SEMI because it can rise by blowing through the tanks. It is a hundred times simpler than a submarine because the hull must withstand an external pressure of no more than 1 ... 1,5 atmospheres and it has a snorkel. You don't need batteries or a reactor.

It seems that you recently found a Science and Technology magazine from the late 70s, in which the idea of ​​​​semi-submersible ships with their supposedly super-advantages was advertised.
I remember this magazine.
But no.
The idea did not go well, although hundreds and thousands of enthusiasts and companies tried to implement it.

[Sergey G]

.... again the mattress covers have phantom dreams!...... Hollywood to help them!

[acetophenone]

I wonder if we have anything against hypersound? Although... what am I talking about? Our fleet seems to be like this... Ah! Only the flag is suitable to demonstrate. Well, and courageously drown.
All these missiles are against the Chinese. Their destroyers and aircraft carriers. For a corvette / RTO, 350 kg of explosives (and I think this is not TNT) will be a bit much.

[Doccor18]

Quote: acetophenon

For corvette / MRK 350 kg of explosives

For them, there is carrier-based aviation and the Air Force.

Quote: acetophenon

All these missiles are against the Chinese

Exclusively for them. It will be difficult for the Chinese to be knocked off the islands of the South China Sea, and there are a lot of Chinese ships there, and the democrats, as police chiefs of the whole world, must be present always and everywhere, but there are no longer enough forces, so they will compensate for the shortcomings with Navy and ILC missiles. The democrats, oddly enough, studied the experience of the USSR well. After all, we also once almost leveled the advantage of the enemy in the ship composition with our missiles ...

[faterdom]

They give! They already have an outdated weapon, they are decommissioning it, and soon they will give it to Zelensky for the price of 50 lard to attack!

[Prisoner]

And where will they get hypersonic missiles for their irons?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Captive

And where will they get hypersonic missiles for their irons?

They are already testing more hypersonic missiles than we have in our entire history.
Ага.
It is necessary to study military topics, and not agitation in Carbon Power, about which has no analogues in the world.

[icy]

Hypersonic missiles in addition to the railgun? Will end the same (IMHO).

[Vyacheslav I.]

Why is the article not in the fiction section?