The production of UAV "Geran-2" and the concern of the United States

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The production of UAV "Geran-2" and the concern of the United States
UAV "Geran-2" over Ukraine. Photo AFP


Almost a year ago, the Russian army first used the Geran-2 strike unmanned aerial vehicles, the existence of which had not been reported before. Moreover, even after the start of mass use, official structures are in no hurry to disclose all the data on new UAVs. With all this, the Geraniums have attracted the attention of foreign armies and intelligence agencies, and now they are trying to determine the origin of Russian drones, places of production, etc.



In an atmosphere of secrecy


The combat use of the Geran-2 UAV began in September 2022, shortly after the Ukrainian terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge. Such drones, together with cruise missiles, were used to destroy enemy infrastructure, military and dual-use. The characteristic design features and performance characteristics made them an effective strike tool.

According to the results of studying the wreckage of the arrived UAVs, Ukrainian experts and their foreign patrons made an interesting conclusion. It was alleged that the Russian "Geran-2" is actually a renamed Shahed-136 drone of Iranian design or its localized version.

Several arguments have been put forward in favor of this assumption. The main thing was the similarity of the exterior and design of the Russian and Iranian UAVs. In addition, during the past summer, rumors circulated in the foreign press about regular visits by Russian officials and specialists to Iran and vice versa. It was assumed that the purpose of such trips was the agreement on "Shahedah" / "Geran" and the organization of production.


A fragment of a drone used in one of the first strikes, September 2022. Photo by Telegram / ImpNavigator

This information has not been confirmed. The Russian Ministry of Defense and other departments did not comment on foreign versions of the origin of Geranium-2. Official Tehran, in turn, denied the possibility of exporting such UAVs.

Official information about the Geranium-2 project is still practically absent. The creators of the project and manufacturers of serial equipment, the performance characteristics and capabilities of the product, etc. remain unknown. Probably, all this information will be revealed later, when the situation allows it.

Anonymous sources


Products "Geran-2" attracted the attention of foreign intelligence, and now they are trying to get any available information. Some of the information is published in the open press. However, the reports of the foreign press should not be overestimated - the published information may not correspond to the real state of affairs and pursue specific goals.

At the end of last year, US officials and the press called the main version of the Iranian origin "Gerane". With reference to its intelligence, it was alleged that Russia was receiving ready-made drones from Iran. Evidence of this was not given - for reasons of secrecy. In addition, it was reported that Moscow and Tehran are actively working to launch the production of "Shahedov-136" on Russian territory.


Iranian UAV "Shahed-136" on the launcher. Photo Telegram / Dambiev

The alleged details of such cooperation were revealed in early February by The Wall Street Journal. From unnamed sources in the US leadership, the publication learned that in early January, a delegation from Iran arrived in Moscow. It included the high command of the IRGC Air Force and the leadership of the Quds Aviation Industry aircraft corporation. The topic of the visit was allegedly the construction of a new plant in Russia and the launch of the production of "Shahedov" / "Geranei".

According to the WSJ, the plant should be built in Yelabuga (Tatarstan). After launch and reaching the design capacity, it will be able to produce up to 6 thousand UAVs of the Gerani-2 type annually. At the same time, it is planned to upgrade the original drone. He should get an engine with improved performance.

According to intelligence


Apparently, the possibility of launching the production of Iranian UAVs at a Russian plant has interested the United States and, perhaps, even worries them. In this regard, the alleged processes of Russian-Iranian cooperation are now monitored by the US intelligence community. From time to time, it reveals the obtained data - naturally, confirming the previously expressed point of view.

In April, US intelligence released a satellite image of the Alabuga Special Economic Zone in Tatarstan that allegedly showed the construction of a future drone factory. The facility is said to receive regular shipments from Iran. Russian officials did not comment on these reports.


Russian and Iranian UAVs of various types at a recent RUMO event. Photo by DIA USA

On July 21, the US Department of Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) held a briefing on the topic of Russian strike UAVs and the alleged “Iranian trace”. The event showed the wreckage of used "Geraniums" and "Shaheds", incl. preserved key units. Representatives of the RUMO once again drew attention to the marking of individual products and UAVs in general and pointed to the foreign origin of Russian weapons.

In addition, they again touched upon the production of drones in Iran and Russia. According to the DIA, the source of which is not specified, the Iranian industry transferred to the Russian army more than 400 Shahed-136 products, later renamed Gerani. To date, this "air fleet" is almost completely used up.

The Pentagon expects that the plant under construction in Alabuga will be launched by the end of the year, and then it will produce its first products. The enterprise will be able to produce orders of magnitude more equipment than Russia received from Iran. The growth in production and supplies will give the Russian army completely new opportunities for the use of strike UAVs and pose a danger to Ukraine.

The DIA noted that the briefing is being held to provide the public with "irrefutable evidence" of military-technical cooperation between Moscow and Tehran. The directorate was going to show that Iranian equipment was involved in hostilities against Ukraine. In fact, the event was not technical, but political. Therefore, the information announced on it should be treated critically - it should be borne in mind that Washington has the most direct relationship to the current situation and acts in accordance with its own interests.


Details of used drones. Photo by RUMO

Cause for concern


The US interest in Russian strike UAVs, as well as in other modern equipment and weapons, is quite understandable. "Gerani-2" appeared unexpectedly for the enemy and his patrons and seriously improved the ability of our army to strike at distant targets. Such drones have a number of characteristic features that make them a convenient tool for massive and effective raids. All this could not fail to attract the attention of foreign experts.

The Geran-2, like the Shahed-136 similar to it, is distinguished by its simple design - well-mastered materials and manufacturing technologies are used, and there are no overly complex and expensive components on board. The cost of one UAV in a series, according to various sources, does not exceed 18-20 thousand US dollars, due to which the drone is much cheaper than any cruise missiles.

The plastic/composite airframe reduces radar visibility, and the piston engine generates insufficient heat for reliable infrared detection and targeting. The power plant with a pusher propeller limits the speed to 220-250 km / h, but gives high efficiency, and the flight range can exceed 2-2,5 thousand km.

"Geran-2" carries a high-explosive warhead weighing tens of kilograms. In addition, according to foreign sources, in the latest series of UAVs, a cumulative fragmentation warhead is used, which literally scatters cumulative jets and ready-made submunitions around itself. The results of detonating such warheads can be seen in numerous videos made by random operators.


Kili "Shaheda" (left) and "Gerani" (right). Photo by RUMO

Drones "Geran-2" are regularly used by the Russian army, and in each strike of this kind, up to several dozen of these products are involved. The results of such strikes and their consequences are well known. Despite the boastful Ukrainian reports on the work of air defense, our Geranium-2s, by themselves and together with other weapons, successfully destroy all the intended targets and inflict significant damage on the enemy.

Work continues


The presence in Russia of a similar weapons, cheap, massive and effective, obviously worries a real and potential enemy. In particular, Washington is afraid that Geraniums will contribute to the speedy demilitarization of Ukraine, and its bet on the Kiev regime will lose. At the same time, attempts to repeat the Ukrainian scenario and use other countries and regimes against Russia will immediately face a response in the form of strike UAVs and other systems.

That is why the United States seeks to “expose” Iranian-Russian cooperation as soon as possible and, if possible, to prevent it. In addition, they are concerned about the expected expansion of production due to the new plant, which will only worsen the position of the Kyiv regime and potential enemies of Russia.

Meanwhile, the Russian industry does not pay attention to American statements and activities - it fulfills an order for the production of the necessary weapons and equipment, including strike UAVs. Our army, in turn, uses the received "Gerani-2" and causes damage to the rear and infrastructure of the enemy. The opinion of third countries does not interest them at all.
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  1. +3
    4 August 2023 04: 51
    Our army uses "Gerani-2" and causes damage to the rear and infrastructure of the enemy

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    1. 0
      4 August 2023 05: 15
      Drones "Geran-2" are regularly used by the Russian army
      And very efficient! good
      1. +1
        4 August 2023 06: 46
        interested the United States and, perhaps, even worries them.

        In addition, they are concerned about the expected expansion of production

        The presence of such weapons in Russia, cheap, massive and effective, obviously worries a real and potential enemy.

        As a sign of solidarity, I really want to worry along with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the United States, but I can’t figure out how to do it in an “obvious way” what request
  2. +4
    4 August 2023 05: 01
    The Russian Ministry of Defense and other departments did not comment on foreign versions of the origin of Geranium-2. Official Tehran, in turn, denied the possibility of exporting such UAVs.

    actually, Iran did confirm sending a drone to Russia, but they said the agreement was reached before special military operation and not specifically intended to use in Ukraine and more importantly, how a weapon used is not the responsibility of supplier.
  3. 0
    4 August 2023 05: 42
    The production of UAV "Geran-2" and the concern of the United States

    Everything is lost!
  4. +10
    4 August 2023 07: 23
    That is why the United States seeks to “expose” Iranian-Russian cooperation as soon as possible.

    Well, "exposure", then what? At 404, more than fifty (!), Karl !, countries openly send their weapons. And this is kind of normal.
    And Iran, like Russia, like the DPRK, has long been subject to sanctions to the top of its head. And he, and the Koreans, and we have nothing to lose for a long time, except for our chains.
  5. +3
    4 August 2023 08: 43
    A common practice in the West is bullshit inflation.
    Everyone should supply UAVs only to Ukraine, and whoever supplies Russia is guilty of all sins at once
  6. +2
    4 August 2023 08: 47
    Today, Russia, of course, is not among the leaders in UAVs, but it is no longer an outsider either. Although in terms of the combat use of certain categories of UAVs (lancets, geraniums, fpv drones), I think they are in the first roles.
  7. -1
    4 August 2023 09: 04
    According to the WSJ, the plant should be built in Yelabuga (Tatarstan).

    The Pentagon expects that the plant under construction in Alabuga will be launched by the end of the year, and then it will produce its first products.


    So where is the factory?
    1. +1
      4 August 2023 10: 45
      Quote: optika20
      So where is the factory?

      SEZ "Alabuga"
      ...a special economic zone of an industrial production type in the Yelabuga region of the Republic of Tatarstan. It is located 10 km from Yelabuga, 25 km from Naberezhnye Chelny, 40 km from Nizhnekamsk and 210 km from Kazan.
  8. +2
    4 August 2023 09: 56
    6 thousand a year is very little.
    60 thousand is already somewhat better.
    1. +5
      4 August 2023 11: 36
      They began to cry bitterly and complain about the 404th after 400 pieces (symbolically), and here 6000 a year - 500 a month. And you offer 60000, you are our bloodthirsty laughing
      But I don't mind, the more the faster.
  9. +2
    4 August 2023 10: 06
    That is why the United States seeks to “expose” Iranian-Russian cooperation as soon as possible and, if possible, to prevent it. In addition, they are concerned about the expected expansion of production due to the new plant, which will only worsen the position of the Kyiv regime and potential enemies of Russia.

    Taking into account the price / efficiency ratio and the lack of UAVs of this dimension, you need to build a large plant and develop different warheads for other versions: With optics, anti-radar .. maybe some more.

    But how will American "revelations" help relations between the two (three) sanctions countries Iran-RF-DPRK? It's a mystery to me. The license is not sold to us by Israel/Britain/EU/Turkey, and not even in Dollars or Euros. And they don’t even transport (transport) across their border to IL76 ....
    1. +3
      4 August 2023 10: 19
      Maybe it's for internal use. "In the West" there are forces advocating the normalization of relations with Iran (or at least freer access to its oil), and there are opponents of this.
      It seems like Iran not only violates the terms of the "nuclear deal" (highly likes according to reports from anonymous but trustworthy sources :)), but also "gets along" with Putin, and this is a "red rag", etc.
      1. +1
        4 August 2023 10: 25
        They themselves complicated the situation with Iran .... there, 3 out of 4 players (USA, Israel, EU) themselves have different and all destructive positions. And in general, in the EU, especially, all long-term programs with energy suppliers are strange - you sign contracts and then you get "strange" taxes on ecology, blue and brown gas and hydrogen, sanctions for LGBT people, spokes in wheels during international events such as the Olympics and Football ... ....
  10. +3
    4 August 2023 11: 28
    The West is drowning for the "green agenda", I don't understand what they don't like? "Geranium" is bad, "Acacia", "Tulip", "Hyacinth" and other vegetation do not suit them. You need to write to Greta Thunberg, let him do educational work with them.
  11. +2
    4 August 2023 16: 43
    به نظر من کارخانه که شروع به کار کند و حجم تولید بالاتر برود خیلی چی زها تغییر میکند.
    1. +3
      4 August 2023 22: 47
      Translation from Persian:
      I think that the plant, which starts working and the volume of production increases, changes a lot.
  12. +2
    4 August 2023 17: 36
    Look, this isn't funny anymore. this Ryabov's graphomania already simply crosses all boundaries. make him a separate section, let him write there! these are not articles, this is speed info!!! I did not think that I would say this, but even Kaptsov's is better.
  13. -1
    4 August 2023 20: 20
    And the new Law on 10 percent of excess profits will not apply to manufacturers?
    It's not oil, gas or coal.
  14. -1
    4 August 2023 21: 47
    Kirill, about little noticeable. I saw and heard the flight of these "birds". The sound of the motor is heard quite far away and cannot be compared with another. Yes, there is something similar to a moped. Therefore, the UAV needs a different engine or work with the one used but reduce noise.
    1. +1
      4 August 2023 23: 47
      They haven’t learned how to shoot at the sound yet, so it’s like with a mosquito - it squeaks, it gets on your nerves, and the opportunity to slam it appears after it has “landed”. The muffler will make the car heavier and reduce power, most likely. It will also give a great thermal signature. Although it would be interesting to direct the exhaust in favor of the pusher propeller.
      1. 0
        16 August 2023 23: 17
        a silencer and even shrouds are put on missile carriers and reconnaissance ones with the same motors, and this clearly increases efficiency, it’s just a clear savings for a one-time option, of course they don’t pick up the sound, but it’s easier to meet a loud airplane
  15. +2
    4 August 2023 23: 52
    Maybe something will move with the engines ... Although ... He wrote nonsense, of course. For the production of such an engine (mass!) You need a culture of this very production.
    ...reciprocating engine MD550. The power output of this air-cooled four-cylinder horizontally opposed two-stroke engine has reached 50 horsepower and its own weight is only 16 kg.
    And we can 3:1? Well if 1:1. And then - can we?
    1. +1
      6 August 2023 19: 25
      Quote: acetophenon
      Maybe something will move with the engines ... Although ... He wrote nonsense, of course. For the production of such an engine (mass!) You need a culture of this very production.
      ...reciprocating engine MD550. The power output of this air-cooled four-cylinder horizontally opposed two-stroke engine has reached 50 horsepower and its own weight is only 16 kg.
      And we can 3:1? Well if 1:1. And then - can we?

      Surely we can! But!!! These will be new materials, technologies and other "buns". As a result, the UAV can turn out to be "golden" (and this is a consumable material, like cartridges, only for aviation!)
      Therefore, "they will direct the exhaust upwards", and not to the ground, so that there are fewer reflected waves ... and that's good. wink
  16. +1
    5 August 2023 10: 43
    Actually, "Shahed-136" is not exactly "kamikaze", which was indicated in the characteristics of the "apparatus" when the hype around the "geraniums" and "shaheds" was just beginning! "Shahed-136" was then characterized as a drone with a drop "ammunition" and equipped with a self-destruction device "at will"! I think that "Geran-2" has a significant modification potential ... for example, it can carry a high-explosive warhead + a couple of anti-radar small drones on "electric traction! ...
  17. +1
    5 August 2023 14: 32
    Geranium is an extremely successful model. Cheap, simple, long range, powerful warhead. And most importantly, endless possibilities for modernization. You can install glonass and aim at coordinates, you can install an optoelectronic guidance system, then the geranium will turn into a kind of lancet, but with a longer range and a more powerful warhead
    1. 0
      6 August 2023 19: 31
      Quote from Alorg
      you can put an optoelectronic guidance system, then the geranium will turn into a kind of lancet, but with a longer range and a more powerful warhead

      Do you propose to do management through satellites, or again according to the "electronic portrait" of the target?
      And "how much in grams" will your navigation system cost one way? Wouldn't it be too expensive? what
    2. 0
      16 August 2023 23: 32
      they already put our navigation on them, in fact it’s really a geranium and it’s not a martyr at all, except for a motor with a screw, nothing remains of the martyr. But propellers will very soon be made in large series for all large drones, or maybe some are already being made. It’s not in vain that they are afraid, in Alabuga there is everything for the production of drones, fiber and resin are produced there, right next to it, set up motor production and here’s a full cycle for the production of a carrier, put a warhead closer to the place of application, fill in the flight mission with fuel and in path
  18. 0
    15 August 2023 06: 28
    Geranium2 is the same copy of the Iranian Shahed. Such secrets... Where could suddenly appear a drone of its own design, quite by chance so much like someone else's?