Service and combat use of the German repeating rifle Mauser 98k after the end of World War II

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Service and combat use of the German repeating rifle Mauser 98k after the end of World War II

As trophies, the countries that won World War II received a total number of German magazine rifles sufficient to fully equip the armies of several European states with them. Subsequently, these rifles chambered for 7,92 × 57 Mauser remained in operation for decades and were a reserve in case of a major war.

In the post-war period, the production of German-style rifles continued in a number of countries, and they were actively exported. Part of the rifles sold on the foreign market ended up at the disposal of various kinds of irregular formations and national liberation movements. Bolt-action K98k rifles, despite their very advanced age, are still popular with hunters and are offered for sale to private individuals.

Rifle Mauser 98k


After the end of World War I, the German armed forces had 7,92 mm rifles and carbines developed by Gebrüder Mauser und Cie: Gewehr 98, Karabiner 98a and Karabiner 98b.




Gewehr 98 rifle

There were also some old Gewehr 1888s and Karabiner 88s in stock.


Gewehr 1888 rifle

The Gewehr 98 rifle and the carbines based on it differed from the Gewehr 1888 model in an improved bolt and feeder design, as well as a modified way to fill the magazine box.


Carbine Karabiner 98a

In 1935, the 7,92 mm Mauser 98k rifle, better known as the Karabiner 98k or K98k, entered service. This rifle used successful technical solutions previously implemented in the Standardmodell (Mauser Model 1924/33) and Karabiner 98b models. Despite the name Karabiner 98k is weapon was a full-fledged infantry rifle, and was comparable in length to samples available in other countries.


Rifle K98k

Compared to the original Gewehr 98 adopted in 1898, the improved K98k had a shorter barrel (600 mm instead of 740 mm). The length of the stock was slightly reduced, and a notch appeared in it for the bolt handle bent down. Instead of the "infantry" Gewehr 98 sling swivels on the K98k, the front swivel is combined in one piece with the rear stock ring, and instead of the rear swivel there is a through slot in the butt. A new bayonet-knife SG 84/98 was introduced, significantly shorter and lighter than the bayonets used on earlier models. The K98k rifle was equipped with a short ramrod.

In order to clean the bore, two ramrods must be screwed together. The wooden stock has a semi-pistol grip, typical for hunting weapons. The steel butt plate is made with a door that closes the compartment for accessories to weapons. In order to reduce the cost of manufacturing in 1937, wooden parts began to be replaced with laminate.

Since 1940, the Gebirgsjägerkarabiner Gewehr 33/40 carbine has been produced for mountain rifle troops and paratroopers at the Waffenwerke Brünn enterprise in the Czech Republic with a barrel length of 490 mm, total length - 995 mm, weight without cartridges - 3,5 kg.


Carbine Gebirgsjägerkarabiner Gewehr 33/40

The Mauser Oberndorf factory delivered a small number of carbines with a folding butt (Klappschaft) and with a removable barrel (Abnehmbarer Lauf) by military standards.

At the end of 1944, production began on a simplified version of the K98k, known as the Kriegsmodell ("military model"). This modification had a number of changes aimed at reducing the cost and labor intensity of production with some deterioration in the quality of workmanship and finish. The resource of the barrel has also decreased and the accuracy of shooting has deteriorated.

The production of K98k rifles was carried out at ten enterprises in Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. In addition, the K98k was produced in Sweden, Argentina, Spain, Iran, Peru, Chile and Mexico with minor modifications and sometimes chambered in a different caliber.

In total, from 1935 to 1945, German enterprises and factories in the occupied territories handed over more than 14 million rifles. To this number must also be added the Mauser rifles produced in Germany before 1935 and captured in other countries.

Depending on the manufacturer and year of manufacture, the weight of the rifle was 3,8–4 kg. Length - 1 110 mm. The K98k was typically fired using the 7,92x57mm sS Patrone cartridge, originally designed for long-range use, with a heavy 12,8g pointed bullet. Muzzle velocity of about 760 m/s. Muzzle energy - 3 J. An integral box-shaped double-row magazine with a capacity of 700 rounds is located inside the box.

The magazine is loaded with cartridges with the shutter open through a wide upper window in the receiver from clips for 5 rounds or one cartridge each. Sights consist of a front sight and a sector rear sight, adjustable in firing range from 100 to 1 meters.

A well-trained shooter is capable of firing 12 aimed shots per minute. The effective range of fire at point targets with mechanical sights was 400–450 m. A sniper rifle with a telescopic sight could hit the same targets with a high probability at a distance of up to 700 m. Rifles with the best accuracy of combat were selected for the installation of optical sights.


The most commonly used quadruple sights ZF39 or simplified 41x ZF1943. In 43, the ZFXNUMX quadruple telescopic sight was adopted.

In total, about 132 sniper rifles were produced for the German armed forces.

In the spring of 1942, the Gewehrgranat Geraet 42 rifle grenade launcher entered service, which was a 30-mm mortar mounted on the muzzle of the rifle. The grenades were fired with a blank cartridge. The effective range of firing with cumulative anti-tank grenades was 40 m, armor penetration along the normal was up to 70 mm.


On the muzzle of the K98k rifle, a HUB23 sound suppressor could also be mounted, paired with a special Nahpatrone cartridge. Ammunition with an initial bullet speed of 220 m/s ensured a confident defeat of a growth target at a distance of up to 200 m.

The K98k rifle is one of the best bolt-action repeating rifles. It has high reliability, durability and long service life, is easy and safe to use.


By the time of the attack on the USSR, the actions of the infantry squad of the Wehrmacht were built around the MG 34 machine gun, which was served by three people. Non-commissioned officers could be armed with MP 28 or MP 38/40 submachine guns, and six shooters with K98k rifles.


During World War II, the K98k rifle was the most numerous type of small arms in the armed forces of Nazi Germany and was widely used by various branches of the military in all theaters of war.

Post-war production of Mauser 98k rifles


In 1946, Mauser's production facilities in Oberndorf ended up in the French zone of occupation, after which the industrial equipment was removed. There is information that weapons were assembled from the unused reserve under the control of the occupying authorities, which then entered the French armed forces and police forces or were sold on the foreign market.

The Mauser plant, located in the vicinity of Berlin and found itself in the Soviet zone of occupation, continued to produce rifles, which armed units of the barracks people's police of the GDR.


Newly manufactured and used K98k rifles were equipped with the paramilitary units of the Kampfgruppen der Arbeiterklasse (German: “Combat groups of the working class”), which were considered a trained combat-ready reserve and were armed mainly with small arms.

English-language publications write that in the late 1940s and early 1950s, a Czechoslovak enterprise Zbrojovka Brno, which during the years of occupation was called Waffenwerke Brünn, handed over a certain number of 7,92-mm rifles. However, it is not clear whether these weapons were made from new parts, or whether components released earlier were used for assembly.

The largest manufacturer in the post-war period was the Yugoslav enterprise Crvena Zastava. New rifles had the designation M-48, and assembled from parts produced in Germany, or overhauled German copies were called M-98/48. Rifles M-48 and M-98 / 48, along with authentic captured K98k, entered the infantry units of the Yugoslav People's Army. Western authors write that Yugoslav-made Mausers did not differ from German ones in their characteristics.


In the modification of the M-48A, which appeared in 1952, changes were made to reduce the cost and simplify the production process.

In 1956, the Crvena Zastava plant began to produce the M-48B model, on which some parts were stamped. Nevertheless, these rifles were not inferior in quality to the German ones.


Rifle M-48VO

The export model is known as the M-48VO, it differed from the M-48V by the absence of markings and a serial number on the receiver, which should have been applied in the buyer's country. Part of the export rifles, at the request of the customer, was marked at the manufacturer. The production of 7,92 mm Mausers in Yugoslavia continued until 1965. The customers of the M-48VO rifles were Egypt, Myanmar, Syria, Indonesia and Iraq.

Some countries that had K98k rifles in their armies in the post-war period converted them to suit their needs. So, in the 1950s, Norway adapted most of the rifles produced in Germany for the American cartridge .30-06 Springfield (7,62 × 63 mm).

After the 308 Winchester (7,62 × 51 mm), also known as 7.62 NATO, was adopted as the standard rifle and machine gun cartridge in the North Atlantic Alliance, a number of states converted their Mausers in the late 1950s and early 1960s under NATO ammunition.

Post-war use of Mauser 98k rifles


After the end of World War II, about 3 million German rifles suitable for further use accumulated in Soviet warehouses. Our troops also captured about 2 billion 7,92-mm rifle cartridges, and the German K98k, transferred to storage bases, became a reserve in case of a new war. If necessary, captured rifles suitable for further use were repaired, after which they were taken into account and preserved.


A large number of German rifles remained in the territories liberated by the allies in the anti-Hitler coalition.


Warehouse of captured weapons at the Sola airfield, Norway. 1945

The original German K98k rifles, as well as their clones made in other countries, were in active operation for more than 20 years after the end of the war, and in some places they made it to the XNUMXst century in reserve. In a number of states, they are still used as ceremonial carbines.


In the post-war period, small arms produced in the Third Reich, due to their cheapness, were popular on the world market. Poor states actively bought German rifles, which had good service and operational and combat characteristics.

Despite the fact that in the post-war period many semi-automatic and automatic models of individual small arms appeared, 7,92-mm Mausers were in service with the armies of many states in Europe, Asia, Africa, Central and South America and Middle East.


In parallel with other assault rifles and repeating rifles, the K98k was actively used in anti-colonial armed conflicts.


Sometimes they could be seen in the hands of completely naked warriors, in addition to firearms, armed with spears.

The Soviet Union handed over some of the captured German weapons to the Allies. The first recipient of a large batch of captured K98k was the communist People's Liberation Army of China, leading an armed struggle against the National Revolutionary Army of the Kuomintang.

Taking into account the fact that in China since the 1930s the licensed production of German rifles and 7,92-mm cartridges has been carried out, there were no problems with the development of captured K98k delivered from the USSR. A significant number of K98k rifles during the years of the Korean War were available both to the DPRK army and to the Chinese volunteers. In the armed forces of mainland China and North Korea, Mauser rifles were used until the mid-1960s and were in reserve until the late 1980s.

The French armed K98k rifles with auxiliary units and native units that fought on the side of the colonial administration in Indochina and Algeria. The police forces of the Prefecture of Paris and the Republican Security Corps until 1992 used German K98k along with French MAS Modèle 36 rifles equipped with rifle grenade launchers to fire tear gas grenades.


Mauser rifles chambered for 7,92 × 57 mm actively fought in Indochina from the second half of 1940 to the end of the 1970s.


These were rifles transferred by the Soviet Union and China, as well as captured from formations that fought on the side of the French.


Mauser rifles were armed with a significant part of the North Vietnamese army and guerrillas operating in the south of the country, and since the mid-1960s these weapons have been used against American troops.


Often, German, Czechoslovak, Polish and Chinese-made Mauser rifles became American trophies, and they were handed over to the troops of South Vietnam.

It is noteworthy that small arms, which were previously in service with the Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS, at the initial stage played a significant role in ensuring the defense capability of the Jewish state.


Repeating rifles of 7,92 mm caliber until the mid-1970s were the weapons of Israeli reservists.

In January 1948, Israel signed a contract with Czechoslovakia for the supply of 4 Czech and German-made K500k and vz.98 rifles, as well as 24 million rounds of ammunition. In total, Czechoslovakia supplied Israel with 5 rifles, more than 25 machine guns and over 000 million rounds of ammunition.

Portugal in the early 1950s acquired several tens of thousands of used K98k rifles, which were subsequently armed with personnel involved in counterguerrilla operations in Africa from 1961 to 1974. In the Portuguese army, German rifles were designated Espingarda 8 mm Mauser m/938.


Shop "Mausers" in parts of the first line in the second half of the 1960s were replaced by automatic rifles G3 and FN FAL. But Mauser m / 938 remained in service with auxiliary, police and native units until the end of the colonial wars. A significant number of magazine rifles fell into the hands of the partisans and were used against the former owners.

In the second half of the 1930s, the Afghan government carried out military-technical cooperation with Germany, and 7,92-mm rifles were officially in service with the Afghan army. In the early 1950s, Afghanistan acquired a large batch of used German-made weapons, as well as 7,92 mm cartridges.

After the entry into Afghanistan of a "limited contingent" K98k often fired on Soviet soldiers and the Afghan military. However, the rebels still had fewer German rifles than the British Lee-Enfield and Soviet Mosin rifles of the 1891/1930 model.

Small arms produced in Nazi Germany, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were used by Arab countries in wars with Israel from the late 1940s to the mid-1960s. 7,92-mm magazine rifles were available in the armies of all Arab states that were part of the anti-Israeli coalition. In the late 1980s, most of the Mauser rifles were transferred to storage.


However, a certain number of German K98k, as well as Yugoslav and Czechoslovak clones, remained in service with auxiliary army units, border guards and irregular formations.


There is a photograph taken in the 1980s of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein posing with a Yugoslav-made rifle.


During the Iran-Iraq war, a significant number of Iranian rifles and machine guns chambered for 7,92 × 57 mm were captured by Iraqi forces.

In 2003, former Iranian machine guns and 7,92-mm rifles, as well as the Yugoslav M-48VO and the original German K98k, were confiscated by American soldiers from members of the Fedayina Saddam paramilitary groups.


K98k rifle captured by the USMC in 2003 in Iraq

In addition to the relatively "fresh" Yugoslav, Iranian and German Mauser rifles, the US military captured the very rare Gewehr 98, produced in Kaiser's Germany.


After Baghdad was taken by US troops in April 2003, most of the Iraqi arsenals were left unguarded. According to Western data, more than 130 armories were looted, in which many magazine rifles were stored.


Later, some of the weapons were seized and destroyed, but a certain number of Mausers fell into the hands of the Islamists. Apparently, these were rifles captured not only from Iraqi, but also from Syrian storage bases.

Sometimes quite exotic specimens came across. So, during one raid, the Americans discovered a cache with a sniper rifle, which was a heavily modified K98k.


The weapon had a new barrel with a silencer and a PSO-1 optical sight taken from a Soviet SVD sniper rifle.

Modern use of K98k rifles and hunting carbines based on them


Currently, most of the rifles made in the Third Reich are out of service. So, recently there were photographs taken in one of the North African countries, which depict stacks of Mauser magazines.


It can be seen that due to improper storage conditions, these rifles are in poor condition and are hardly suitable for further use.

A certain number of K98k, for firing from which the original 7,92 × 57 Mauser cartridges are used, remained in service with police and auxiliary units in third world countries. Rifles converted to 7.62 NATO ammunition are also operated there.


Such an enviable longevity is explained by the large resource, safety margin and high reliability of the K98k. At the same time, it is quite obvious that the rifle, which was put into service in 1935, is hopelessly outdated and is largely used involuntarily.

However, old magazine rifles, with little wear and tear and proper care, often demonstrate very good shooting accuracy, and various irregulars often use them as snipers.


A Kurdish militia sniper fires at Islamic militants. His K98k rifle is equipped with a Zeiss civilian hunting scope. The picture was taken in northern Iraq in 2016.

As mentioned above, the K98k rifles remained in the companies of the guard of honor. This is due to the fact that modern machine guns do not fit well with the dress uniform of soldiers meeting honored guests or participating in ceremonial events.

Serviceable rifles with original stamps and parts, produced during the war years, are in steady demand among collectors. Their demand among buyers is explained by the fact that many want to touch stories and have rare weapons from which you can shoot at targets.

Until now, a significant number of former German rifles are used for hunting. So, in Russia, under the name KO-98M1, customers are offered the original K98k.


Hunting carbine KO-98M1

Also on sale are: KO-98 - a carbine chambered for .308 Win (7,62 × 51 mm). VPO-115 - carbine chambered for .30-06 Springfield (7,62 × 63 mm). VPO-116M - carbine chambered for .243 Winchester (6,2 × 52 mm).

Since the late 1990s, Mauser Jagdwaffen GmbH, a subsidiary of SIG Sauer Corporation, has been producing Mauser M 98 and M 98 Magnum hunting carbines, which are structurally similar to the K98k rifle in many respects, but have a number of improvements, stock and stock made of fine wood.

The Mauser M 98 series carbines are chambered in 7x57mm Mauser, .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, 8x57 IS and 9,3x62mm. The weight of the unloaded weapon is 3,6 kg. Barrel length - 600 mm. The total length is 1 mm. The magazine capacity is 130 rounds, while the barrel can hold one more round.


Hunting rifle Mauser M 98 Magnum

The Mauser M 98 Magnum carbines are available in .375 Holland & Holland Magnum with 5 + 1 magazine capacity, .416 Rigby and .450 Rigby with 3 + 1 or 4 + 1 magazine capacity. ammunition. Weight without cartridges - 4,4 kg. Table length - 620 mm. The total length is 1 mm.

The price of the base model Mauser M 98 in Germany starts from 6 euros. But the use of expensive options and additional finishes can increase the cost many times over.

In Russia, a basic carbine chambered for 8 × 57 IS costs more than 3 million rubles.

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  1. +13
    3 August 2023 04: 25
    Sergei can't do that, I started reading and I was almost late for work !!!
    Such "goodies" should be served only on weekends and holidays with a preliminary announcement!!!
    Thank you very much!
    1. +6
      3 August 2023 21: 30
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Thank you very much!

      hi
      Join us!
      The author of the article gasped = read good
      In addition, "To be continued"!

      I will add confusion to the topic of a rifle-carbine.
      Almost everyone has heard about the Mauser automatic rifle.
      But there was also an automatic carbine.
      Under the intermediate cartridge.

      I will add 1 photo, and nothing more.
      Maybe the author planned in the sequel,
      and I break the intrigue)

    2. +3
      4 August 2023 10: 02
      Great article on an almost endless topic good many thanks to Sergey! Only on bayonets for this rifle (more than 30 offhand varieties) you can write a whole series of articles.
      I look forward to continuing!
  2. +7
    3 August 2023 04: 34
    Sergei hi thanks a lot for the material! hi I read about weapons, especially pistols and rifles, with pleasure hi
  3. +14
    3 August 2023 05: 19
    Despite the name Karabiner 98k, this weapon was a full-fledged infantry rifle, and was comparable in length to samples available in other countries.

    It was compared with an infantry rifle of the early 20th century! After the First World War, almost all states abandoned its long (normal) version by switching to carbines or, in the case of the Soviet Union, to a dragoon rifle.
    However, Sergey in the next paragraph gives specific figures
    For clarity, I post drawings on the example of Mosinka:
    1. +5
      3 August 2023 11: 32
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      It was compared with an infantry rifle of the early 20th century!

      The point is not that it was compared with a rifle at the beginning of the century, but that in German Karabiner then meant a rifle with a "cavalry" side mount for a belt instead of infantry sling swivels, so that another Karabiner could be even longer than a Gewehr (rifle) the same model. After the war, the terminology changed somewhat, and now Karabiner means exactly the carbine in our understanding, i.e. a shortened and lightweight rifle, which adds to the confusion.
    2. Alf
      +7
      3 August 2023 19: 15
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      After the First World War, almost all states abandoned its long (normal) version

      It just turned out that shooting at a distance of 2000 meters from a long barrel was never used in practice. And the long barrel, in the absence of such a need, created problems both in application, especially in a small space, and in production.
  4. +7
    3 August 2023 05: 45
    98-K is the main small arms of the Wehrmacht with which he conquered almost all of Europe (except the USSR), which in itself speaks of the quality and reliability of these weapons.
    ps Without exception, the Germans run with Schmeisers only at Mosfilm.
    Thanks to S. Linnik for another excellent article, of which there were very few on the "yellowed" VO.
    1. +1
      4 August 2023 08: 16
      Quote: Amateur
      98-K the main small arms of the Wehrmacht with which he conquered almost all of Europe (except the USSR)

      The uncle worked at a factory where German weapons were melted down, he said that they dragged their current and so on.
    2. AUL
      0
      10 August 2023 18: 31
      Quote: Amateur

      ps Without exception, the Germans run with Schmeisers only at Mosfilm.
      And with the Schmeisers, who are not Schmeisers at all.
      It was always incomprehensible to me why the Germans used machine guns so limited (compared to us) (before Sturmgever.
  5. +4
    3 August 2023 06: 14
    rifles chambered for 7,92 × 57 Mauser remained in service for decades and were a reserve in case of a big war.
    Why not. The rifle, which had proven itself in the years of the first and second WW and was widespread in many countries, had every right to do so.
  6. +5
    3 August 2023 06: 35
    He shot from the CAT ... In! good - almost like touching history crying
    Even somewhere there were shell casings from her. Judging by the target (shooting at 100 meters without optics) - getting into a matchbox without problems (lying from the stop) - i.e. technically five rubles with optics, I think too
  7. +5
    3 August 2023 06: 49
    converted to ammunition 7.62

    Very interesting, how is it done?
    Under a larger caliber, it’s understandable, under a much smaller one, I can also assume how (liner).
    How about 15 acres per side?
    Shoe again around the required mandrel?
    Galvanically upset a layer of metal?
    Or are they bored first, and then they are "sleeved" (they put a liner)?
    1. +4
      3 August 2023 07: 20
      I don’t know the details ... the liner should have at least half a caliber, high alignment. The main barrel is heated, the liner is sort of cooled, and then the connection goes to the so-called. tightness Therefore, I think they are most likely reaming (removing the rifling) and back by rotational forging
      The grooves (or rather the fields) cannot be removed galvanically, but the tension on the edges will be greater than the current ... in fact, it will only round the fields and deepen the grooves themselves - that's why I tend to forging recourse
    2. +3
      3 August 2023 17: 26
      They completely re-barrel and, if necessary, change or remake the bolt head, although this is not necessary for .30-06 and .308 Win - they are made on the basis of a Mauser sleeve
  8. +5
    3 August 2023 07: 18
    Thanks for the article, it was interesting.
    1. +5
      3 August 2023 09: 04
      Yes, great article! good
      Since childhood, I dreamed of shooting with 98. Grandfather was a sniper, went from under Tula at 41 to Balaton. Did not support a domestic manufacturer - shot from a trophy 98 wassat request
      It's a pity that I shot from a mechanical one - alas, without optics crying CAT (wrote above). It's a little unusual there. On a Kalashmat for 100k front sight = chest target. I just don’t remember exactly right now, but it was unusual ... fur on our sights. everything is done under the chest and in general it is possible to determine the range from it (roughly of course). But the accuracy is very good, it is convenient to reload.
      1. +5
        3 August 2023 21: 42
        Quote from Enceladus
        Grandfather was a sniper, went from under Tula at 41 to Balaton. Did not support a domestic manufacturer - shot from a trophy 98

        Not a rare case during the war, it was possible for soldiers to meet this weapon:
        Mausers for KA soldiers
        1. +3
          3 August 2023 22: 56
          It's already been written here. Very ergonomic... allows you to shoot without leaving the target. I also shot from Mosinka, and a lot. It is clear that they also made a curved shutter lever on ours. But our snipers were selected by shooting. Those. specifically sniper specimens were not made. Well, here is the German pedantry.
          Grandfather also said that he also shot from Arisaki. But I remember poorly and did not have to shoot. If there is someone who shot - share your opinion / feelings from 6,5mm
  9. +6
    3 August 2023 08: 37
    Thank you! I read it with pleasure! Although there are a couple of non-principled remarks, but which of us is impeccable.
    As far as hunting carbines are concerned, with the better aesthetics of the KO-98, I would prefer the more compact KO-44. Well, the cost and availability of cartridges also plays a significant role.
    1. +4
      3 August 2023 09: 09
      Shooting from a CAT is an expensive pleasure. I’m not talking about the original 98 times of the 2nd .... even for me it bites ... of course it washed away fellow spit off the sheikels.... but I'm 1/3 Jewish wassat
  10. +5
    3 August 2023 10: 10
    They write on the Internet that before the First World War, many British military announced the need to re-equip His Majesty's Army with the "British Mauser". They strongly criticized their own "Lee-Enfields" and demanded that the gunsmiths "copy" the enemy "Mauser 98".
    But under the new cartridge without a rim - .276 Enfield (7x60 mm).
    SMLE model 1914.
    Before the start of the war, the cartridge was not put into production.
    They also did not produce the rifle themselves, but gave it to the Americans for production.
    And the Yankees began to produce this "British Mauser" under the old British cartridge .303 with a rim!
    And then, to arm their own army ("Sprigfields of 1903" were not enough), the Yankees remade the "British Mauser" under their cartridge and received an "American rifle .30 caliber, model 1917" (US Rifle, .30 caliber, Model of 1917).
    https://dzen.ru/a/ZL0iOHcBfXemyfKO
    1. +8
      3 August 2023 14: 00
      Before the First World War, many British military announced the need to re-equip His Majesty's Army with the "British Mauser". They strongly criticized their own "Lee-Enfields" and demanded that the gunsmiths "copy" the enemy "Mauser 98"

      As the saying goes, everything is better with the neighbor, but "the chimney is lower, the smoke is thinner" themselves. IMHO, the British Lee Enfields were the best BB1 and BB2 rifles (if you do not take into account self-loading ones). "Crazy Minute" is proof of this:

      https://youtu.be/1DhjUrqH88s
      1. +4
        3 August 2023 14: 48
        Only initially, these rifles provided for a plate that closed the magazine and turned the rifle into a single-shot!
        British soldiers could shoot all 10 rounds very quickly, but they couldn’t load this rifle “at the same speed”!
        Chuck with rim.
        They write that in a tense battle, soldiers loaded 5 rounds and fired.
        Like a shooter in a video.
        It fires 5 rounds, not 10.
        When quickly loading 10 rounds from two clips, the cartridges could be skewed and hooked with their rims!
        Also, the bolt from one rifle might not fit another without fitting!
        1. +5
          3 August 2023 15: 03
          This is sad, of course.
          But not as sad as trying to reproduce the "crazy minute" with other rifles.
          Whether with 10 or 5 rounds, the Lee-Enfield did its job and did it faster than other rifles.
          1. +4
            3 August 2023 16: 40
            So, according to the well-established "myth", the Russian three-line rifle was designed not for high-speed shooting, but for "bayonet fighting"!
            Hence the straight neck of the butt.
            Like the French Mle1886.
            The Germans, Austrians, British, Americans have semi-pistol necks.
            With such it is more convenient to shoot, but it is more difficult to stab with a bayonet.
            Such a "myth" has a place to be.
            Plus the location and design of the shutter.
            And let's not forget that the Russian rifle was adopted in 1891, and the British Lee-Enfield SMLE was preceded by the Lee-Metford rifle adopted in 1888 (made from 1888 to 1896)!
            And SMLE in its original form appeared in 1895.
            It was first used in the Anglo-Boer War.
            Then in 1903 the British make a choice and shorten the rifle and it becomes the shortest of all infantry rifles. The barrel length became 635mm.
            And in 1907, another modernization came up - the British finally introduced loading a rifle from a clip !!!
            So, until 1907, no one even thought of any "crazy minute"!
            When manually loading one cartridge at a time!
            And the Russian rifle was not subjected to any improvements until 1930.
            As they accepted her in 1891, so she fought.
    2. Alf
      +5
      3 August 2023 19: 17
      Quote: hohol95
      many British military spoke of the need to re-equip His Majesty's Army with the "British Mauser".

      Why did Anfield not suit them? And there are more cartridges and it is more convenient to distort the shutter.
      1. +3
        3 August 2023 19: 46
        I would say yes, I don't know.
        They probably did not like the conditional interchangeability of parts, which complicated the repair of weapons or a cartridge with a rim.
        And initially the British "enfields" were loaded with one cartridge.
        And the store, if my memory serves me right, was ONE. Although it is removable, they did not issue spare ones.
        Cartridges were kept in bulk.
        The clip appeared only in 1907.
        Clip for 5 rounds.
        The British were going to change the cartridge, but the outbreak of war canceled these plans.
        1. Alf
          +3
          3 August 2023 20: 14
          Quote: hohol95
          They probably did not like the conditional interchangeability of parts that complicated the repair of weapons

          And they didn’t try to screw up the production workers? Or introduce a state standard? Or according to the principle "if you don't like the wallpaper, we'll change the apartment"?

          Quote: hohol95
          And the store, if my memory serves me right, was ONE. Although it is removable, they did not issue spare ones.

          So this is not the fault of the rifle and the designers, but British greed. "Isn't it easier, godfather, to turn on yourself?"
          Quote: hohol95
          The clip appeared only in 1907.

          As they said in my happy childhood, Sam d-k ...
          Quote: hohol95
          The British were going to change the cartridge, but the outbreak of war canceled these plans.

          It's a pity, otherwise they would not be bored at all ...
          1. +3
            3 August 2023 20: 53
            It became "service would not seem like honey" to the British rear!
            Two different cartridges. Two rifles of different design. "Idiot's Dream"
            1898 year.
            The British infantry in India are asking for clips to load their Lee Metford rifles, but some officers have the opposite opinion -
            "... For example, the 1st Battalion of the Royal West Kent Regiment (Royal West Kent Regiment) considered that the introduction of clips would not give any significant advantage. "If people, having fired eight or ten rounds, could not stop the advance of the enemy, their moral the spirit will be so broken that it makes no difference to them whether they can insert a clip of eight rounds or they have to load them one at a time.
            ... “There are complaints that the cartridges do not enter the store easily enough, and do not always fit there correctly. … One full charger (five rounds) is all that can be conveniently placed in the magazine at a time, and there is some difficulty in forcibly filling a second charger. There doesn't seem to be a need for a magazine to hold more than five rounds, as is the case with many foreign weapons. Installing a full loader after five rounds is used up is a job of less than a second, and if the magazine only holds five rounds, it is unlikely to protrude below the body of the rifle. Then the weapon could be carried along a slope or a path without interfering with the shoulder or arm, as the current inconvenient store does.

            In addition to the items indicated in the questionnaire, the officers of the Indian units also noted that it is desirable to have an oil can and a cleaning cord (Pull Through) with the rifle, and not in the bag, where they can be easily lost. The Indians also noted that "The bolt cover is necessary to protect against dirt, sand, etc. There seems to be no reason why it should not be made so that it does not interfere with the protruding clip guides."
            https://warspot.ru/21416-nadyozhnaya-opora-imperii
    3. +5
      3 August 2023 20: 27
      They write on the Internet that before the First World War, many British military announced the need to re-equip His Majesty's Army with the "British Mauser". They strongly criticized their own "Lee-Enfields" and demanded that the gunsmiths "copy" the enemy "Mauser 98".

      Zen, of course, is a very authoritative source, but for some reason the British themselves present this story in a slightly different way.
      Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) began to be criticized during the Second Boer War, which is not surprising, because the .303 British cartridge, designed for black powder, was inferior to the German 7 × 57mm in all respects. Therefore, the task was to create an equivalent cartridge and a rifle for it. By 1913, both the cartridge (.276 Enfield (7 × 60mm) and the Pattern 1913 Enfield (P13) rifle for it were ready. 1257 rifles were made and sent for testing to the army.
      According to the test results, a number of changes were made to the design and six more copies were made. But then the First World War began and the British came to the completely logical conclusion that the transition to a new cartridge and a new rifle in such conditions would not pull their industry. The British converted the new rifle to the old cartridge, received the Pattern 1914 Enfield and, due to the lack of production capacity in Britain, signed contracts with Winchester, Remington and Eddystone.
      1. +2
        3 August 2023 21: 28
        Then the Americans, having converted this rifle under their cartridge, received a second rifle in service in addition to the "American Mauser" Sprigfield ".
        For this unauthorized copying ("Springfield of the 1903 model"), the Mauser company sued the Americans for a certain amount in dollars
        And no one writes the word "Mauser" in the names of these rifles. From foreign connoisseurs of small arms.
        And when describing a Russian three-line rifle, they constantly inform the reader that this is a Nagant-Mosin rifle!
        1. +4
          3 August 2023 22: 13
          And no one writes the word "Mauser" in the names of these rifles. From foreign connoisseurs of small arms.
          And when describing a Russian three-line rifle, they constantly inform the reader that this is a Nagant-Mosin rifle!

          Just experts in small arms constantly inform the reader that
          The colloquial name "Mosin-Nagant" used in the West is persistent but erroneous, as established in Nagant's legal dispute

          "The common name "Mosin-Nagant" used in the West is stable but erroneous, as established in the Nagant legal dispute"

          This is usually followed by information about the lawsuit lost by Nagant and an expression of surprise - why did the Russian Empire pay 200 rubles to Nagant (Mosin received the same) and why the rifle was not named after Mosin in Russia.
          1. 0
            3 August 2023 22: 29
            "The cry of one crying in the wilderness..."
            Exhibition of weapons captured from the "Reds" during the Spanish Civil War, San Sebastian, 1938.
            The Soviet I-15 fighter was called "Curtiss".
            I-16 - "Boeing", and the bomber SB-2 - "Martin" ...
            Everything as usual!
            Or they bought it or stole it, but they themselves can’t come up with it ...
            1. +3
              3 August 2023 23: 01
              Or they bought it or stole it, but they themselves can’t come up with it ...

              Excuse me, in no way do I want to offend you, but such a train of thought, how to softly call it, is somehow flawed, or something.
              The Spaniards at first really mistook the same I-15 for the Curtiss F11C Goshawk. This is a well known fact.
              There is nothing unique or humiliating in this, the planes are really similar.


              For the same reason, the I-16 was confused with the Boeing P-26, and the SB-2 with the Martin B-10. Moreover, the Republican Air Force had planes from all over Europe, there were two dozen types of fighters alone, and one could confuse them.
              1. 0
                4 August 2023 05: 27
                Excuse me, in no way do I want to offend you, but such a train of thought, how to softly call it, is somehow flawed, or something.
                You are right - DEFECTIVE!
                BUT...
                It is this line of thought that has been imposed for a long time. It was imposed and is being imposed on the inhabitants of Europe and Co.
                And since the 90s of the 20th century, it has been imposed on us - the citizens of the deceased USSR and the younger generation of the Russian Federation.
                You can mistake the I-16 for the R-26 in air combat, but setting up a trophy vehicle at an exhibition seems like simple brainwashing.
                You might think that the Soviet aircraft were not inspected by the Spanish Francoists themselves and their allies, and they did not see the nameplates and other inscriptions on the units proving the country of origin.
                They "inspired" themselves and others that this was a copy of the R-26, and not their own development from the USSR.
                And now some "inspire" that Grabin and his team did not create the F-22 / USV / ZIS-3, but simply copied the Swedish gun ...
                And there are those who believe in it...
                How they believed that the I-15 is a "copy of Curtiss."
                1. +3
                  4 August 2023 08: 01
                  It is this line of thought that has been imposed for a long time. It was imposed and is being imposed on the inhabitants of Europe and Co.

                  Who is talking about what ... and we are talking about "being exposed." It was precisely at that time, in the midst of the civil war, that the Francoists thought most of all about "brainwashing", they had no other worries.
                  You might think that the Soviet aircraft were not inspected by the Spanish Francoists themselves and their allies, and they did not see the nameplates and other inscriptions on the units proving the country of origin.

                  Specially found the catalog of the exhibition. Original.





                  Photo from the catalog. And the signature is clearly visible at the bottom.
                  Avion ruso de caza. Correspondiente a la patente Y-15. Conocido con ai nommbre al Curtis an la zona nacional y Chato al ia roja


                  Russian fighter In accordance with the I-15 patent. Known as Curtis in the National Zone and Chato in the Red Zone.

                  The word "patent" in Spanish has several meanings. One of them - identification plate affixed to the vehicle.
                  By the way, at the same exhibition, a downed American Grumman FF fighter, designated as I-15, was presented. Probably the Spaniards at the same time and the Americans "brainwashed.
                  1. -1
                    4 August 2023 09: 59
                    How many people - so many opinions.
                    Pointing out that the Svoet planes belonged to the "American ideas", the Spaniards "curtseyed" to the American industry.
                    If they did it, then they had a reason for it.
                    They are still trying to inspire us with the "merits of Hugo Schmeiser" in the development of AK.
                    Or the fact that Mikhail Kalashnikov himself was placed "at the head" according to personal data, and the machine gun itself, the development of a "team of Jewish designers" who were forbidden to be in the first roles because of their nationality.
                    At the same time, such authors forget about A. E. Nudelman, one of the designers of the NS series aircraft pushers.
                    "If they rinse their brains, then someone needs it."
                    1. 0
                      4 August 2023 12: 25
                      How many people - so many opinions.

                      That's for sure. Someone's cognac stinks of bedbugs, someone's bedbugs smell like cognac. And the smell is the same in both cases.
                2. 0
                  7 August 2023 10: 51
                  Quote: hohol95
                  they did not see nameplates and other inscriptions on the units, proving the country of origin.

                  Wehrmacht tanks had nameplates and documentation - nevertheless, they were known to us as T-1, T-2, T-3 and so on.
                  Who prevented them from calling them correctly? Or was the USSR brainwashing someone too?
        2. 0
          16 August 2023 12: 45
          Quote: hohol95
          no one writes the word "Mauser" in the names of these rifles.

          All over the world it is customary to talk about a "bolt group" and not a rifle. Since it is the bolt group that determines all the parameters, and the barrel can be screwed in another, the stock can be changed (the latter is legal even in the Russian Federation). So rifles with a 98k bolt group are still being produced now, and by very elite-priced companies like Peter Hofer, like hunting ones.
          I note that the Mosin-Nagant bolt group is not copied by anyone.
  11. +8
    3 August 2023 10: 34
    On May 9, 1995, the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War on Poklonnaya Hill was opened in Moscow. I happened to visit it shortly after opening. Been there after. Perhaps I am too mischievous with my old upbringing, but the museum made a depressing impression on me. First of all, these are sculptures on the pediment. As conceived by the sculptor, these are the goddesses Nike, blowing fanfare in flowing clothes. Alas, this can only be seen up close. From afar, they look like farce Petrushkas. George the Victorious is also good. Literally shortly after the opening, it, made of bronze, turned green, but the defeated kite made of brass continues to shine like new. Is evil invincible? Of particular bewilderment was the symbolism of the main staircase in front of the Hall of Fame, where on the platform above there is an artistic and decorative composition "Shield and Sword of Victory." This staircase was decorated with PPSh thrown to the ground. PPSh is a symbol of our Victory; many monuments and bas-reliefs are decorated with it. In the old traditions of Rus', weapons thrown to the ground are a symbol of defeat. Compare, for example, the front staircase and Vasnetsov's painting "After the Battle of Igor Svyatoslavich with the Polovtsians":


    Are PPSh thrown to the ground a symbol of our victory or defeat? Although, according to the year the museum was founded, this was a symbol of our defeat - the fifth column rejoiced at the surrender of the USSR in the Cold War and its liquidation. One of the expositions also served as proof of this point of view. In the glass sarcophagus, a brand new German machine gun MG-34 in the easel version was installed from the warehouse. The look of the New Year's candy - pre-war production, milling, bluing, brand new leather on the gunner's seat ... Just a chic look! A feast for the eyes! Under it, again, our DP-27 was thrown to the ground, a shabby military issue, with a butt without varnish, painted in black ink. Look, they say, the gray-paws have raised their hands against whom and servility! There were no signatures under this installation - and so everything is clear.
    Ask how this grumbling of mine relates to the article about the K98 rifle? In the most direct way. On my first visit to this museum, the impression was that one team collected exhibits from warehouses and storages, while the other randomly scattered signs with signatures under them. The most notable exhibit was an American M3 submachine gun or Grease gun (colloquially "grease syringe") with a sign stating that it was a "Mauser". Try to confuse:


    While I, with my mouth open, looked at this miracle, an old woman with her granddaughter approached the stand, and pointing at M3, she said instructively:
    Look! "Mauser"!

    I don’t know how anyone, but I felt sorry for the State to the roots of my hair! I still want to look at the moron who then designed these stands.
  12. +5
    3 August 2023 11: 07
    Held K98k in his hands! Damn, leavened patriots will attack me, but ... Mosinka is much more convenient! As for applicability, sighting devices, reloading .. There's nothing you can do about it. With the Mosinsky carbine, I was like in the taiga .. like. There is something to compare. To Sergey, as always, our Allaverdi! hi
    1. +3
      3 August 2023 13: 26
      Not quite on the topic, but to your experience: the CZ550 fits in your hands and throws up so comfortably that not a single domestic carbine stood nearby ... The same feeling after comparing the Pegasus smoothbore Turk and the domestic MP. To be honest, I was very sorry for the fatherland.
      1. 0
        3 August 2023 14: 44
        CZ550 fits in your hands and throws up so conveniently that not a single domestic carbine stood nearby ..
        alas .. not familiar ... hi
      2. 0
        7 August 2023 11: 21
        Quote: Ilya22558
        The same feeling after comparing the Pegasus smoothbore Turk and the domestic MP.

        I have owned Pegasus for 14 years - "Murka" (MP-153) is just a shovel compared to him, drin drin, by God ...
        I don’t remember exactly who Pegasus was in her maiden name - Beretta or Benelli, but I remember that it is supplied to 16 countries, including the USA. Everywhere under its own names - Pegasus is the name for the USA (there is another name there) and the Russian Federation
    2. 0
      3 August 2023 14: 57
      Did you have to shoot from the French Mle 1886?
  13. +1
    3 August 2023 11: 30
    Good article from a respected author!
    A little boring
    On the muzzle of the K98k rifle, a HUB23 sound suppressor could also be mounted, paired with a special Nahpatrone cartridge. Ammunition with an initial bullet speed of 220 m/s ensured a confident defeat of a growth target at a distance of up to 200 m.

    The bullet speed of such a cartridge was 260-275 m / s, depending on the time of production
  14. +8
    3 August 2023 13: 42
    The most commonly used quadruple sights ZF39 or simplified 41x ZF1943. In 43, the ZFXNUMX quadruple telescopic sight was adopted.

    The German sniper rifle, or rather the sights of this rifle, is a topic that deserves a separate article. Oddly enough, but after the First World War, the Germans decided that the sniper rifle was not relevant and all developments in this direction were abandoned. And when "the question arose point-blank," improvisations began from what was at hand on the civilian market. The same ZF39 is not a sniper scope, it is a scope for hunters. Therefore, you can find options with completely unique sights.



    Karabiner 98k with Carl Zeiss Jena Zielacht 8x scope. Meet and Carl Zeiss Jena Zielsechs 6x
    1. +8
      3 August 2023 14: 16


      Karabiner 98k with Hensoldt - Wetzlar Diasta 6X42 scope
      1. +7
        3 August 2023 14: 32


        Karabiner 98k with Rüdiger 6x56 sight from RUDIGER HILDESHEIM.
        1. +9
          3 August 2023 14: 52
          At the end of World War II, the Karabiner 98k continued to be used as a base for the creation of sniper rifles.



          Austrian sniper rifle SSG 98k, adopted in 1958.
  15. +6
    3 August 2023 13: 47
    hi
    As always, an interesting article!

    Repeating rifles of 7,92 mm caliber until the mid-1970s were the weapons of Israeli reservists.

    ... but there was no joy from them in the 70s, even among the cadets of the Flight School: "... we again went to the flight school's cloakroom - this time for weapons and equipment. It was in early November 1974 of the year - the fighting during the Yom Kippur War ended a year ago and all the attention of the logistics and logistics services of the IDF and the Air Force was sent to update equipment, ammunition and everything else that was required by the combat units.The remnants and used equipment after repair were sent to the Flight School.In short, everything that no one else was ready to accept, but the captains were sorry to throw it away, go write it off ... We felt it right away, as soon as we were given weapons ... Almost all of us were given a 7.92 mm German-made MAUSER rifle from World War II. They arrived in the IDF back in 48, with the first official deliveries from Czechoslovakia, and everyone called these rifles "Czechs". On most of the rifles one could still see an eagle with outstretched wings - the brand of the German Wehrmacht. These rifles fired World War I machine-gun cartridges - with a protruding rim - different from the then generally accepted standard in the IDF (cartridge 7.62 NATO-vsky sample). There were no longer many such cartridges in the IDF and they were given to us in very limited quantities. During a cursory initial inspection, it turned out that our rifles were very prone to rust and we realized that we were very unlucky ... Later it turned out that despite their simplicity, our rifles were no longer reliable or accurate due to their age. .... The nights were already cold and all the moisture that had accumulated in the air during the day settled in the evening and at night as cold dew, which “stuck” to our antediluvian rifles and rusted them in the most unthinkable places ... I had to lubricate and clean the rifles twice a day trunks, and at night "put them to sleep" with you in sleeping bags. " https://www.berkovich-zametki.com/2015/Zametki/Nomer5_6/Mostov1.php
  16. +6
    3 August 2023 13: 49
    A little about the production of the Mauser98 rifle from Jena from Foggoten Veapon:

    https://youtu.be/knPDsJyCpjI
    1. +4
      4 August 2023 05: 21
      However, there were some surprises here.
      Even he could not identify one of the Mausers:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi89NYeoHKg&list=PL9e3UCcU00TT7j-WYGCjYpEVCwemFSKKi&index=14

      In short: Mauser as Mauser. Caliber 8x57 (7,92x57). Marking:
      On the right side of the bolt box: CZ 29-53
      On the left side of the bolt box: HAITI 1957
      Serial number: 10
      And an incomprehensible "coat of arms" on the breech:


      As far as I know, in 1960 the CIA carried out an operation to overthrow the Dominican dictator Trujillo. One part of this operation was the supply of about 300 t.n. to local rebels. "sterile" rifles, the origin of which cannot be traced. This is probably one of them.

      It is usually mentioned that "sterile" rifles did not carry any markings. But this is doubtful. An unmarked rifle attracts a lot of attention. And the special services, into whose hands it fell, will immediately become clear that things are not clean here. Even if it is not of the American type, it is obvious that only those who have the appropriate capabilities could make an unmarked rifle. Moreover, the main weapons of the Dominican Republic (and Haiti, too) then were actually American rifles chambered for .30-06. And weapons chambered for 7,92x57 were not in service either in the Dominican Republic or in Haiti.

      I guess it's one of those "sterile" rifles. Made in the USA according to Mauser's drawings. This type was specially chosen because, firstly, it was not American, and secondly, it was widespread throughout the then world. Marking - completely fake (part of a false flag operation). Czechoslovakia was then part of the socialist camp (and the Trukhilovsky Dominican Republic had no relations with it). And relations with Haiti were nasty - it even came to genocide there. So it confused the traces well, taking into account the then political disposition.
  17. +5
    3 August 2023 14: 17
    The price of the base model Mauser M 98 in Germany starts from 6 euros. But the use of expensive options and additional finishes can increase the cost many times over.
    In Russia, a basic carbine chambered for 8 × 57 IS costs more than 3 million rubles.


    In Russia, it’s much “better for health” that such a thing is for sale (if it hasn’t been sold out yet) request ) at a price of 250 to 350 tr, "eats" a domestic cartridge.
    Description: "rifled carbine wassat "Maxim" was made by reworking the world-famous machine gun "Maxim" of the 1910/30 model under the caliber 7,62x54R, at the plant. Degtyarev.
    Possibility excluded (well of course... laughing ) firing in bursts, the formation of a cream is ensured. labels.
    The weapon has historical value.
    Supplied complete with shield and machine.
    "

    Who "health is not very good" and want something lighter than the Maxim machine gun, here: "Carbine PPSh-O k.7,62*25 Tokarev ZID[i] [/ i] "price from 25 to 50 tr., "eats" domestic cartridges for TT.
    But whoever suffers from cringing before the West can look for PPSh under 9 * 19.

    Don't thank for the tips feel .
  18. +7
    3 August 2023 18: 21
    There is information that weapons were assembled from the unused reserve under the control of the occupying authorities, which then entered the French armed forces and police forces or were sold on the foreign market.

    "Unused backlog" was used not only by the French.



    Sporting rifle of the Danish company Schultz & Larsen, Mod.52. It used bolts and stocks from the Karabiner 98. German markings were removed from the bolts.
  19. +2
    4 August 2023 10: 14
    Quote from Enceladus
    But our snipers were selected by shooting. Those. specifically sniper specimens were not made.

    As far as I know, our snipers were made separately. And for the first time in the world. And the German and all the rest - they were selected by shooting and screwed on the optics.
    Soviet snipers, in addition to reduced manufacturing tolerances, also differed from ordinary ones:
    1) the handle of the bolt stem is bent down (for ordinary rifles it is straight);
    2) the height of the front sight is 1 mm higher, which is caused by the absence of a bayonet and the zeroing of the rifle in the factory, before installing an optical sight, with an open sight;
    4) the trigger spring is thinned in the middle part by 0,2 mm, so that the force on the trigger when the drummer is released from the cocking is from 2 to 2,4 kg;
    5) more careful fit of the stock to the barrel and receiver
    6) making a walnut stock (not always).

    Of course, during the war, maybe ordinary rifles were turned into sniper rifles, there was no time for fat, they used what was available.
  20. +1
    4 August 2023 10: 21
    Quote: hohol95
    The clip appeared only in 1907.

    In my opinion, clip loading in Enfield appeared in 1903 (or 1904). And the 1907 model of the year was distinguished mainly by a new sight, designed for the ballistics of a pointed bullet. Bullets used to be blunt.
  21. +2
    4 August 2023 10: 30
    Quote: Wildcat
    Almost all of us were given a 7.92mm German-made MAUSER rifle from World War II. They arrived in the IDF back in 48, with the first official deliveries from Czechoslovakia, and everyone called these rifles “Czechs”. On most of the rifles, one could still see an eagle with outstretched wings - the stigma of the German Wehrmacht. These rifles fired rifle and machine gun cartridges of the First World War - with a protruding rim

    What kind of game? German cartridges in World War I were phalanxless.
    1. +3
      4 August 2023 10: 52
      Forgive the author, he is a pilot and did not write in Israel in a "training school" in the 70s, but in the Russian Federation, IMHO, it was in 2015. He was already retired in Moscow and worked in a "computer company", so he could confuse "from memory" what rifle cartridges looked like.
      1. 0
        7 August 2023 11: 27
        Quote: Wildcat
        Forgive the author, he is a pilot and did not write in Israel in a "training school" in the 70s, but in the Russian Federation, IMHO, it was in 2015. He was already retired in Moscow and worked in a "computer company", so he could confuse "from memory" what rifle cartridges looked like.

        And how did an Israeli pilot of age (!!) enter a computer company in the Russian Federation ??? belay
  22. 0
    14 February 2024 21: 28
    I remember well how the 98th "Gevers" served in the second half of the 50s - early 60s as a weapon for both departmental and private security of domestic enterprises. Several of these rifles were in service with the joint guard of the flour mill, which was then commanded by my father, who had previously been demobilized due to Khrushchev’s reduction of the SA. Showing my “skill” in handling this type of weapon, I remember, I pulled the trigger of the unloaded gun and pulled the bolt, which remained in my hands. Attempts to put the critical part back in place were unsuccessful, but my father who returned masterfully brought the rifle into working condition, at the same time slapping me on the neck for arbitrariness and no longer allowing us to poke our noses into the weapons cabinet (where there were several more revolvers and a couple of TTs on the shelf). Nevertheless, the combat use of German “vintars” took place, although somewhat later. At the height of Khrushchev’s “corn campaign,” when a considerable part of the Soviet population had a chance to eat pea and corn bread, a massive attack began on the bins of enterprises that, as part of their activities, had reserves of wheat flour. The bunkers of the flour mill, guarded by the personnel of my dad’s unit, were no exception. It must be said that my father was from a rare category of ideologically incorruptible people who preferred to live according to communist truth and demanded the same from others. He never brought home a handful of flour, preferring to buy the then ersatz bread, chasing away the thieves and conflicting with the management of the same flour mill, who was trying to arrange personal “communism” for himself and his company at the enterprise. The history of this confrontation ended with the military use of German “Gevers” against the plunderers who were trying to profit from government flour. One day, while bypassing the posts at night, my dad intervened in a hand-to-hand fight: two men were trying to take a rifle from a guard, who was screaming at the top of her lungs, clutching the weapon. After firing a warning shot from a revolver into the air, the attackers rushed to the fence and the first person to climb it shot at the father with a sawn-off shotgun. Snatching the rifle from the hands of the groaning, lying woman, the father pulled the bolt with a trained movement and, with a shot offhand, knocked down the scoundrel who was aiming at him, who collapsed on the other side of the fence. The second one raised his hands. Almost immediately, two more shots were heard from behind the bunker. Another guard fired, discovering two more robbers carrying sacks of flour out of the open door. The first shot was in the air, and the second was in the wall above the door, as the last of the thieves threw a hammer at him. Frightened by the shot, he instinctively rushed back and fell into a pit of flour, almost suffocating there. And although this happened during the “Khrushchev Thaw,” the growing telephone right of officials (who used the services of the flour mill directorate) showed itself as well as it could. The father and the security guard (also from Khrushchev’s “military conscripts”) were prosecuted for “illegal use of weapons”; without waiting for a court decision, they were fired from their jobs under the “wolf clause” and expelled from the party. But in that “glorious” time, it turns out, not everything was bought and not everything was sold. The court acquitted both of them, ordering them to pay cash benefits for the forced “leave” and reinstate them in their previous jobs. A criminal case was opened against the “victims” and their accomplices (despite the severe bullet wound and the grave consequences of being in a flour environment) as plunderers of socialist property. Reluctantly, my father was reinstated in the party, but he no longer began working at the flour mill. Having a military academy behind him, he went to work at a research institute. When quitting, he went into the director’s office to get a signature on the application, after which, without saying a word, he spat on his desk. And then he looked into his former gun room and, taking out that same German rifle from the iron safe, stroked its stock: “Farewell to weapons!” You finally helped me out. Now I am a completely unarmed peaceful person.” And indeed, he never had a chance to hold any more weapons in his hands.