Nightmare on the battlefield. Russian sappers staged hell for the advancing

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Nightmare on the battlefield. Russian sappers staged hell for the advancing

Yesterday I read a small note from one of the military correspondents about sappers. Probably for the first time ever. It is well written: “I propose to erect a monument to sappers after the war!” But indeed, in many respects, it is the work of sappers that stops the advance of enemy armored vehicles, helps to destroy dozens of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day.

The work is invisible to the media. Well, what is there so heroic that would arouse the interest of readers? They went into neutral at night, laid several hundred mines in dangerous directions and returned in the morning. Neither you shootouts, but for such a shootout the commander can get a hat, nor you assaults on the defenders.



I chose a place, dug a mine and disguised it ... Or vice versa. I got out onto a minefield set by the enemy, cleared a dozen or two or three mines, made passages for reconnaissance or equipment, and went home. Yes, and in the rear the same story. The farmer needs to sow the field, the workers need to clean the plant or some factory. We arrived, removed mines and land mines and left. No heroism. With jokes...

But try to tell the same scouts that sappers are not heroes. You can get a hold of the physiognomy. Simply because for them, sappers are something similar to a guardian angel. This is the one who goes ahead on the most dangerous and difficult part of the path. Scouts ahead! The one who meets them first after completing the task...

Even the West today treats Russian sappers with great respect. Even Western analysts are already horrified by how effective these units are. I read the American The Washington Post. The Americans cite the words of Ukrainian soldiers and officers about minefields.

In front of the Russian oporniks, the depth of the minefields is from 4,5 to 16 km (3 to 10 miles)! Moreover, the density of the installation of mines is so high that it ensures their operation even with the use of sapper units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainians do not have time to remove the mines and are forced to go on the offensive right on the mines!

Well, according to tradition: the American publication proposes to increase the supply of demining machines to Kyiv. This is a purely American approach, a purely American understanding of modern warfare, based on the fact that the enemy is always weaker, with destroyed aviationwithout drones and so on.

They do not understand that in modern combat, engineering vehicles are becoming a priority target. And any cars. Whether it is mining or demining machines, pontoons, evacuation tractors, vehicles for repairing equipment, and so on. For many readers, even here, after more than a year of war, there is no difference between the destruction tank and his defeat.

By the way, I will give data on the Second World War. On average, each tank in that war was hit three (!) times! They were knocked out three times, but after a fairly short repair time, he was back in service! This example shows how important a simple tow truck was even in that war ...

Why are Ukrainian officers crying?


In the same article, American journalists cite the views of Ukrainian sappers on the situation at the front. In particular, in the Zaporozhye direction. First of all, the Ukrainians do not like the fact that the demining vehicles are very large. Yes, and all heavy equipment, too. Paradox? Not at all.

The Zaporizhzhya theater of operations is really not well adapted to the actions of large machines. Steppe, large open spaces. This allows intelligence to detect not only the areas of operation of these machines, but also their locations. Especially given the fact that Russian troops occupy the dominant heights.

By the way, the commander of the sapper unit of the famously defeated 47th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine told American journalists about this. Quote from The Washington Post about the use of heavy machinery:

“But now their use is no longer effective, because the enemy is waiting for such equipment - huge, noisy equipment that is easy to notice and therefore attack.”

Another headache for the Ukrainians is that the Russians have a whole system of anti-tank weapons, which allows our army to nullify any advantage in the technology of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This was told by another officer of the same brigade. The APU is simply afraid to attack with tanks and armored vehicles. Artillery, UAVs, ATGMs and other PTSs drive tanks and other vehicles into minefields, where they are destroyed with everything the Russians have. From RPGs to helicopters...

The situation is really difficult. But the Ukrainians solved it... in Ukrainian. Roughly speaking, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to act in the same manner as the Wagner PMC acted during the capture of cities. When individual houses and even streets were captured by attack aircraft, and tanks and artillery went behind and moved forward only as needed.

But the difference in tactics lies in the fact that the city and the open field are somewhat different conditions for fighting. And the losses of personnel, even in comparison with the assault on Artemovsk, are huge. Hence the term “meat grinder” already entrenched in the media.

On the whole, Ukrainian officers are “crying” precisely because their commanders put them in the conditions dictated by the Russians. Including sappers. Because in reality, commanders can actually do nothing. The counter-offensive allegedly carried out by the Armed Forces of Ukraine is actually just a “meat grinder”…

And what about the Ukrainian sappers?.. They are also forced to switch to the same tactics as the rest of the units. Small groups of sappers are going to demining, who are trying to somehow remove the mines manually. Which is an obviously impossible task, given the latest mining machines used by our Army.

Here is the opinion of the “best Ukrainian general” Zaluzhny recently on this issue:

“Minefields are one of the problems that definitely affects the speed of the offensive. We see that there is such a problem.
Could it have been solved faster?
Can.
How could it be solved?
At least General Milli (American General, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) knows this. Another question is whether he can help with this.
Don't know".

What is in perspective?


As we can see, the West actually did not find options for dealing with Russian sappers. I did not find options for breaking through the defensive fortifications of the Russian army. Those successes, which are periodically proclaimed by the press services of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in certain areas, look rather miserable. And the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are becoming catastrophic.

We are well aware that the situation that exists today is just a strategic pause. Just the "demilitarization" of Kyiv. Without the offensive, there will be no victory.

But they understand this in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fact that the main hostilities are scheduled for August-September has long been known. Almost after the first failures of the Ukrainian army, the Pentagon openly announced the existence of just such a plan.

The American press has repeatedly written about the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to intensify the offensive. Even in the Washington Post article I mentioned, there is mention of a fact, almost unnoticed by many, when Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba tearfully asked for an increase in the supply of engineering equipment, especially demining machines, in the near future.

It would seem that the work of sappers in the offensive is changing radically. Instead of planting mines, you will have to remove enemy minefields. However, not all so simple. Nobody canceled the tasks of destroying transport routes for military logistics. Nobody canceled the tasks of mining the nearest rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Nobody canceled the tasks of mining enemy strongholds.

If you closely follow the deliveries that are mentioned today in the reports of the Russian Ministry of Defense, you can notice an increase in mine-clearing vehicles. But you can also notice the appearance of completely different mining machines. For example, the Tula complex "Agriculture" is causing panic in the ranks of the enemy today.

To understand what it is and what the complex is intended for, I will quote the Russian Telegram channel "Military Chronicle". Material published in RT. We are talking about a completely new mining system. About the so-called "mine web".

“The “Agriculture” complex developed by the Tula NPO “Splav” was put on the chassis of a four-axle KamAZ and equipped with an ammunition load of 50 unguided 122-mm rockets. They are placed in containers of 25 pieces. To charge a new package, you need to change the container itself to a new one. The calculation of "Agriculture" copes with this task in three minutes.

According to the Ministry of Defense, the ISDM is equipped with its own weather station, navigation system and an electronic map showing mined areas. The complex is capable of planting anti-tank and anti-personnel mines at a distance of up to 15 km.

POM-3 and PTM-4M are designed specifically for modern mining systems.

These smart mines with installed seismic sensors can distinguish the steps of a person from an animal, not to mention armored vehicles. And one of their main functions is the remote activation / deactivation of the entire minefield or its parts via a secure radio channel. Once in such a web, it is almost impossible to get out of it.

In addition to this system, several more interesting machines were highlighted in the videos published on the Telegram channels by the CBO participants. But information about them is still rather vague. I can't say exactly what it is. Our famous soldier's ingenuity or systems created by some NPC. They are easier. They do not have such global additions as "Agriculture", but they are quite effective.

In general, finishing the conversation about Russian sappers, we can say that these fighters perform their combat missions very professionally. The enemy feels it on his own skin.

And the monument? I think there will be more than one such monument. Must stand! It can't be otherwise...
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  1. +31
    20 July 2023 04: 56
    “I propose to erect a monument to sappers after the war!”
    Absolutely agree!
    1. +20
      20 July 2023 06: 09
      Who saw the video in the cart of the sushnik jumping off Bradley and straight to the mine? If you watch the video in full, you can see a whole unit without legs.
      1. +13
        20 July 2023 06: 54
        Quote: Clever man
        Vushnik jumps off Bradley and straight to the mine

        The paramedic kneeled on a mine as he tried to evacuate the other Khinzirs.
        1. +11
          20 July 2023 07: 10
          This was already clear from the time of February 2023. Both sides dug in to the bone. What's next?
          1. +14
            20 July 2023 07: 38
            And then a stalemate. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of forces for the offensive, but from our offensive they will be covered by exactly the same many-kilometer minefields ... As a result, we will either have to attack with huge losses, or try to exhaust ourselves with missile strikes, but these will be, again, mutual strikes. ..
            1. +10
              20 July 2023 08: 02
              Quote: Jackson
              And then a stalemate. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of forces for the offensive, but from our offensive they will be covered by exactly the same many-kilometer minefields ... As a result, we will either have to attack with huge losses, or try to exhaust ourselves with missile strikes, but these will be, again, mutual strikes. ..

              After the maximum destruction of the enemy here, ours will begin an offensive elsewhere. They will not physically be able to mine the entire border of the Russian Federation - country 404 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ..
              Hypothetically, there is also a border between the Republic of Belarus and a potential Wagner
              1. +16
                20 July 2023 09: 36
                The border with Belarus has been mined since last year, immediately after a goodwill gesture. Plus swamps.
              2. +2
                21 July 2023 00: 44
                And there is also the Primorsky direction ...
                1. 0
                  23 July 2023 13: 54
                  Quote: Alexander Tkachenko
                  And there is also the Primorsky direction ...

                  Only there, instead of mines, there are Ukrainian Neptunes and American Harpoons. And there, instead of our tanks, our landing ships will be lost. So, also not ice ...
            2. +4
              20 July 2023 11: 09
              I agree about the stalemate. Moreover, only the Anglo-Saxons will benefit from it, and all the rest - the 404th, we, Europe, will lose. Another triumph of the dirty and vile foreign policy of these creatures.
            3. +3
              20 July 2023 16: 02
              And then a stalemate. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of strength for the offensive, but from our offensive they will be covered by exactly the same many-kilometer minefields ... As a result, either we will have to attack with huge losses, or try to exhaust them with missile strikes,


              There will be a fix here. Not all the front lines have the same density of minefields. This is due, firstly, to the landscape, and secondly, to the intensity of the fighting, which is determined by the value of the contested territories.
              So there are opportunities for success.
          2. +7
            20 July 2023 08: 03
            Quote: Civil
            Both sides dug in to their very best. What's next?

            Russia has aviation, which from March 2023 began to use bombs with guided planning and correction modules. The body kit for the bomb costs 800 thousand rubles. Such winged bombs are tools of great war. While the run-in is underway, only two bombs exploded on the video. Let's see if they can increase their number by an order of magnitude.

            1. +6
              20 July 2023 11: 19
              The 404s have strong air defense and have to drop these bombs long before entering the zone. This is a limited range vehicle. Comparable to cannon artillery. Yes, more powerful. Rockets remain the only distant hand, cheap unguided tornadoes, up to 100-120 km and manageable expensive ones.
              1. +2
                20 July 2023 18: 57
                Quote: Glagol1
                The 404s have strong air defense and have to drop these bombs long before entering the zone.

                So for this they were created - in order to take the line of dropping the combat load beyond the radius of air defense systems and expose not an expensive and large manned carrier, but many small cheap unmanned weapons of destruction to air defense fire.
                Quote: Glagol1
                This is a limited range vehicle. Comparable to cannon artillery.

                Radius yes. Although the bourgeois UAB in range are already advancing on the heels of the OTP.
                But in terms of the power of the UAB, they leave artillery far behind. 500-kg shells are a thing of the distant past.
            2. +5
              20 July 2023 18: 47
              The body kit for the bomb costs 800 thousand rubles
              Is this kit made on the basis of platinum group metals or are quantum computers with liquid helium cryogenic installation used for guidance?
              1. +1
                20 July 2023 18: 59
                Quote from barbos
                Is this kit made on the basis of platinum group metals or are quantum computers with liquid helium cryogenic installation used for guidance?

                Bourgeois JDAM costs about 22 kilodollars. But this is in the basic version and with large-scale established production.
                1. 0
                  29 July 2023 22: 08
                  Let's play a little in the economy, how about defending the exchange rate? Here the bourgeois JDAM costs a bunch of kilodollars, what makes up its price? This is the cost of scientific research and modeling - scientists there are not cheap, unlike ours. It is made from materials that are essentially imported and, as a result, not cheap. Because at home they don’t burn much to spoil nature. Then, from these imported materials, the product is assembled and tested by expensive workers on expensive machines. And all these production cycles against the backdrop of expensive electricity. The company also needs to pay some taxes and earn some money.
                  What do we have? Scientists either work part-time somewhere in a commercial organization (like doctors a day in a regular one, a day in a commercial clinic), so as not to drag out a miserable existence. Or have long gone into commerce completely. Therefore, the scientific part can be ignored. Further. We sort of mine cast iron and aluminum and it's not as expensive here as it is in Western European markets (if it turns out otherwise, that's a joke). The labor force is not expensive, the machines are antediluvian, electricity is definitely cheaper than in the West. Why, then, a stray that looks like "I blinded him from what it was", at a price slightly cheaper than a domestic passenger car of comparable quality? Where and why are these costs?
                  1. 0
                    29 July 2023 23: 45
                    Where and why are these costs?
                    So elementary - drank. By the way, the Americans are no less. And your games in the American economy are completely broken by one simple fact. Why are some wings for the bomb worth like a whole Tesla car, in which everything that you indicated is orders of magnitude more. And after all, Tesla is far from the most expensive car. So here and there everything is surprisingly similar.
        2. -8
          20 July 2023 07: 52
          Quote: Clever man
          Who saw the video in the cart of the sushnik jumping off Bradley and straight to the mine? If you watch the video in full, you can see a whole unit without legs.

          Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
          The paramedic kneeled on a mine as he tried to evacuate the other Khinzirs.

          What are you happy about? Guess who will pay for prosthetics and pay pensions? At the very moment when they, together with the territories, come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, they will turn purple to the EU, to Uncle Sam.
          1. +18
            20 July 2023 08: 51
            Well now, toss them with lard in chocolate?
          2. +6
            20 July 2023 09: 38
            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: Clever man
            Who saw the video in the cart of the sushnik jumping off Bradley and straight to the mine? If you watch the video in full, you can see a whole unit without legs.

            Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
            The paramedic kneeled on a mine as he tried to evacuate the other Khinzirs.

            What are you happy about? .

            Yes, it would be so in the comments of the colleague of "Clever" joy can not be traced. He generally talks about the effectiveness of minefields, using the example of the mentioned video, where almost an entire unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was disabled due to damage to the lower extremities. Moreover, it seems that repeated mining was used there. the paramedic jumped from the armor to a piece of land where the soil had already been damaged by the explosion i.e. in full confidence that everything had already exploded and detonated in this area, but no, he landed exactly on a mine.
            Quote: Nagan
            Guess who will pay for prosthetics and pay pensions? At the very moment when they, together with the territories, come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, they will turn purple to the EU, to Uncle Sam.

            Well, what can you do, those who do not run away with the retreating banderlogs, after establishing all the circumstances of their participation in the b / d for involvement in war crimes, will be amnestied, after which they will receive a feasible job. the loss of legs is not the same as the loss of arms and they will probably be able to count on some kind of allowance. All these questions will be settled after the war and will depend on its outcome. Mattresses, of course, are traditionally rejected from financial responsibility, but the EU, which actively financed the war from the "Peace Fund", will probably pay compensation to banderlogs from the same fund. Here Trump announced that if he wins, he will shake off from Europe all the money that America has pumped into Ukraine as military assistance, so that, in the event of a failure of the Ukrainian venture, Europe is already being considered as a "financial patient".
          3. -3
            20 July 2023 09: 43
            Quote: Nagan
            At the very moment when they, together with the territories, come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation

            I wonder if they will be given an increased pension, like veterans of the database?
            1. +5
              20 July 2023 12: 45
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Nagan
              At the very moment when they, together with the territories, come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation

              I wonder if they will be given an increased pension, like veterans of the database?

              If the "Lviv Republic" remains, then they will be.
              And if not, then they will receive a disability pension with us.
              It applies to all citizens of the Russian Federation.
              And pensions as participants in the database knowingly not allowed - they not are military personnel of the RF Armed Forces ...
              1. +3
                20 July 2023 18: 45
                "It applies to all citizens of the Russian Federation."
                And who told you that such people will receive Russian citizenship?
            2. +3
              20 July 2023 16: 07
              At the very moment when they, together with the territories, come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation

              I wonder if they will be given an increased pension, like veterans of the database?


              Let's solve problems as they come. Let's solve the first problem first.
          4. +8
            20 July 2023 11: 21
            It's rather not important here. Who will pay him. It's just that as long as he is intact and with a weapon, he is dangerous and must be neutralized. Just. Otherwise, he will neutralize us.
          5. +3
            20 July 2023 18: 07
            So what do you propose - do not put minefields? Let them go to the Crimea, to the Donbass - but then we will not pay pensions to anyone? What a savings!
            1. 0
              29 July 2023 23: 56
              So what do you propose - do not put minefields? Let them go to the Crimea, to the Donbass - but then we will not pay pensions to anyone? What a savings!
              Rather, on the contrary, it is necessary to put such minefields that would tear off the legs to the very head.
  2. +17
    20 July 2023 05: 01
    Since the Crimean War, our sappers have been feared and respected. Even the enemies gave Melnikov a ring with the 4th bastion. Ober mole!
  3. -6
    20 July 2023 05: 26
    In front of the Russian oporniks, the depth of the minefields is from 4,5 to 16 km (3 to 10 miles)!

    And why did Mr. Staver decide to count the distance in miles? Or is it just a translation from English?
    1. +13
      20 July 2023 06: 34
      It was a quote from the Washington Post. I don't think they wrote in kilometers. And Mr. Staver just translated everything into kilometers.
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  4. +20
    20 July 2023 05: 29
    But indeed, in many respects, it is the work of sappers that stops the advance of enemy armored vehicles, helps to destroy dozens of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day.
    Engineers alone cannot stop the enemy with barriers. It is possible to delay, for some time, but not to stop, only if these barriers are reliably covered by reconnaissance and fire weapons, and all this will work in a complex, then the enemy can really not only be stopped, but also destroyed at this turn .. .
    “I propose to erect a monument to sappers after the war!”
    Like their grandfathers and great-grandfathers - sappers of the Great Patriotic War, they DESERVED it ...
    And there are monuments to those sappers




  5. +14
    20 July 2023 05: 36
    Quote: Andrey Moskvin
    Since the Crimean War, our sappers have been feared and respected. Even the enemies gave Melnikov a ring with the 4th bastion. Ober mole!

    Well, in the Russo-Japanese War, in fact, the most effective ship of our fleet was the minesag "Amur", which drowned as many as JVA samurai battleships with its mines.
    1. +6
      20 July 2023 10: 17
      Quote: Kuroneko
      Well, in the Russo-Japanese War, in fact, the most effective ship of our fleet was the minesag "Amur", which drowned as many as JVA samurai battleships with its mines.

      According to the sunken enemy ships, the Amur is generally the most effective ship of our fleet of the "after the sail" era. smile
  6. +7
    20 July 2023 05: 43
    “I propose to erect a monument to sappers after the war!”

    Why wait for the end of the war? You may not survive...
    Demolish the EBN monument and cast from it ...
    Although, for the heroes, casting a monument from ... is not entirely correct ... But, regarding the demolition of the EBN monument, everything is correct.
    * * *
    Ask yourself if the monuments to the defenders of the USSR (the creators of the Soviet state) somehow prevented its collapse? It is necessary to help those who have gone through this hell, their families ... Help publicly, with publicity, so that everyone around can see who and where real heroes, true patriots live. Let the memory of them be immortalized in the names of streets, cities ... As for monuments and other structures, believe me, even the Egyptian pyramids are of no importance today.
  7. +12
    20 July 2023 06: 04
    In all wars, mines were of great importance and will not lose their relevance for a very long time. Perhaps the most insidious weapon.
  8. +13
    20 July 2023 06: 13
    Sappers are real heroes. A special warehouse, pedantry, endurance, attention to detail... not everyone is able to become a good sapper. It would be great if they wrote a whole series of articles on various military specialties participating in the NWO. Thanks to the author for the article.
  9. +7
    20 July 2023 06: 21
    They do not lack demining vehicles, but reconnaissance and destruction means, because minefields restrict movement, and do not completely exclude it. The tactic of throwing meat into the field does not work.
  10. +5
    20 July 2023 06: 22
    In front of the Russian oporniks, the depth of the minefields is from 4,5 to 16 km (3 to 10 miles)! Moreover, the density of the installation of mines is so high that it ensures their operation even with the use of sapper units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ukrainians do not have time to remove the mines and are forced to go on the offensive right on the mines!
    You can immediately see who in childhood loved to help his parents first plant seedlings of potatoes in the garden, and then dig up the famous potatoes. There are a lot of varieties of potatoes, but it is especially pleasant to eat dishes with the addition of potatoes grown and harvested in your own backyard. And there are countless potato dishes. A classic, of course, is grilled potatoes. The square nest method is sometimes very useful, but even more useful when it helps keep a soldier alive in combat. She is such a parent potato. Or maybe mother-in-law. After all, she is an army to whom a mother is dear, and to whom an evil aunt ... good smile drinks
  11. +11
    20 July 2023 07: 01
    We wish the sappers continued success in their combat missions.
  12. +11
    20 July 2023 07: 18
    I remember the lines from the song:
    - Sappers dig in the ground,
    Blow up a hundred-ton mine
    But she don't care
    won't explode
    The spy unscrewed the locknut...
    But, seriously, the courage of the sappers has always amazed me. I involuntarily ask myself the question: could I, like them?
    (He gave half of his life to aviation).
    And, the monument to Minesweeper - to be!
  13. +5
    20 July 2023 07: 46
    World War II data. On average, each tank in that war was hit three (!) times! They were knocked out three times, but after a fairly short repair time, he was back in service!
    At the same time, the previous crew was often scraped off the walls of the fighting compartment. When there was time, the spots were painted over. And it happened that they were sent into battle with stains, a patch hastily welded onto a hole in the armor, and a fresh crew.
    1. +5
      20 July 2023 09: 06
      And it happened that there was no time to weld holes, the mechanisms were restored and forward.
  14. +5
    20 July 2023 08: 02
    Quote: Civil
    This was already clear from the time of February 2023. Both sides dug in to the bone. What's next?

    1. God forbid our now hold the front line.
    2. Yes, layered defense helps to equalize the forces of the parties due to losses in assaults on the attacking side.
    3. After the equilibrium is established, the "war of the home front" begins, the war of economies.
    4. It is possible that one of the parties collapses due to internal breakdown, mass sabotage, riots, etc.
    5. A variant is possible when a static line of defense is used as an anvil, and a hammer blow is applied after a breakthrough in a weak direction.
    6. It is possible to repeat the tactics of 1944, with massive front-line operations, with a huge expenditure of resources in order to achieve an advantage in artillery, tanks, and aviation.
    7. A "Syrian option" is possible with the capture of unnoticed territory, and a mass of urban centers of resistance that have been functioning for decades.
  15. +16
    20 July 2023 09: 08
    Please write about those who are completely invisible in the war - about tankers, railway workers, engineering troops, drivers, doctors! It is very interesting.
    1. -1
      20 July 2023 17: 02
      don't forget the clerks...
      at headquarters...
      am
      1. +5
        20 July 2023 23: 14
        Thanks to the clerks at the headquarters, many years later I found out where and under what circumstances my grandfather died in 1944 under
        Bialystok and where he was buried.
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  17. +3
    20 July 2023 14: 11
    you need to put more, more land mines
  18. +2
    20 July 2023 21: 54
    "Well, according to tradition: the American publication proposes to increase the supply of demining machines to Kyiv. This is a purely American approach, a purely American understanding of modern warfare." The old rule: if a native doesn't understand English, speak louder!
  19. +1
    20 July 2023 23: 47
    And the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are becoming catastrophic.
    their losses have been catastrophic for a long time, this is not sarcasm, but this does not lead to a turning point, but what if they can fight with these catastrophic losses for another 10 years? there is enough mobilization resource, the collective West can easily and naturally supply further weapons and ammunition
    1. +1
      21 July 2023 16: 03
      and if they are with these catastrophic

      It must be understood that Russia is a secondary goal for the United States, the longer the conflict drags on, the more the collective West invests there, the more difficult it will be for AUKUS in the Asia-Pacific region. There is no one-wicket game here, everything is interconnected.
  20. +2
    21 July 2023 00: 32
    The work is invisible to the media. Well, Pltcm fdnjh set up several hundred mines in dangerous directions and returned in the morning ....
    Here the author exaggerated - put several hundred mines per night ... winked In fact, to create a minefield with an area ... The author, calculate for yourself. And most importantly - the time that needs to be spent to install this minefield, and the forces - this is no less than ISAPv, but rather - ISApr Well, how is it at night, will an engineering platoon, or company, covertly do it?
    Author, do not get carried away, and filter the market. Well, if, of course, you once managed to put such a minefield yourself, then ... send the address where I will send you money for cognac, or vodka - a matter of taste.
    P.S. Please - do not answer about "Agriculture", do not. You didn't say anything about this system in your article. bully hi
  21. _6
    +2
    21 July 2023 00: 59
    A good movie is Once Upon a Time in the Desert. There about our sapper in Syria.
  22. +2
    21 July 2023 07: 59
    Yes, how do you pick it out? Stormtroopers that work less? Or art, on which the whole war is now based? Everyone gets it. And everyone is worthy, because they are heroes!
  23. +2
    21 July 2023 12: 51
    well done sappers - it’s nice to read the question, will the cluster munitions supplied by the All-Union Forces be able to clear all these fields?
    1. 0
      30 July 2023 00: 11
      the question is whether the cluster munitions supplied by the Armed Forces will be able to clear all these fields?
      Do you have any idea with what density these fields need to be sown with submunitions in order to guarantee complete demining? This is not a snake making a narrow passage for you. There you really have to plant the whole field like potatoes.