There is less and less optimism. AUKUS submarine program

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There is less and less optimism. AUKUS submarine program

The author proposes that starting from 2024, American Virginia-type submarines will periodically (scheduled) enter the Australian naval base Perth (Osborne), it must be understood that there is no final decision on this issue yet. Perhaps, “moose” will also come in, but since the purchase of “Virginias” is theoretically supposed, they are more logical after all.

Regular visits by British Estuits are planned for sometime in 2026, although this is not a fact. Since the British MAPL program is far behind schedule, the latest, Agincourt, is expected to enter service in 2027. Taking into account maintenance and repairs, there will be no more than three Estute submarines in service. Sending one of the few to the other side of the world is a so-so occupation.



Repair


The author hopes that the dry dock at Devonport will be upgraded, enlarged and certified to serve nuclear submarines. But so far this issue has not been considered by the Ministry of Defense, even in theory. And this makes the situation with the repair and maintenance of British nuclear submarines very difficult, one might say, dangerous. Since there is only one dock in Rosyth for these purposes.

In addition, in 2035, the Estiut will end its service life. After that, either decommissioning, and where to decommission it, if not one of the decommissioned British nuclear submarines has yet been disposed of. Or a long, expensive repair. If for these purposes the only dock in Rosyth is occupied, then in case of any emergency there is nothing left at all. After that, such repairs or write-offs are expected by all the other Estuits.

In addition to the above, there is another problem.

Another shipbuilding program in the Royal navy always insured the previous one. So, the Trafalgars were insured by the Swiftshurs. The last of them, Scepter, was decommissioned even later than Trafalgar, in 2010. The last of the Triumphs had recently fled to Gibraltar and back. It is clear that this is a purely publicity stunt before decommissioning, but nevertheless the boat is on the move. But who and how will insure the promising Australian-British MAPL is an open question.

This is about the repair, now let's talk about construction.

Building


After the slipway is freed from the last Estuit, the Dreadnought will be laid on it. Considering that even Estuits were built on average for ten years, one can only guess how long it will take to build a larger and more technically complex boat.

Theoretically, by 2035, the hull of the second Dreadnought will be on the slipway. In an ideal situation, which is very unlikely - the third. That is, there is simply nowhere to build a promising boat for AUKUS.

Now back to the American "Virginia".

The situation is approximately the same as in England. MAPLs, like future SSBNs of the Columbia type, are being built by two shipyards, which are interconnected by hulls. Stopping one shipyard means a complete stop of the entire construction.

The pace of construction is also far behind the desired. So far, the Americans are pulling 1,2 boats a year, instead of the prescribed two. But even here, there are nuances.

Thus, the construction of two next Virginia-class Block V submarines, SSN-812 and SSN-813, was delayed for more than a year due to a dispute between the Pentagon and General Electric about liability in the event of an explosion of a ground-based Tomahawk missile aboard a submarine. Until 2018, the Navy assumed responsibility for General Dynamics in the event of a Tomahawk accident aboard a submarine under construction, an unusually risky proposition due to the higher energy fuel.

The stalemate between the Navy and General Dynamics delayed the procurement of materials for the two submarines by nearly a year, USNI News previously reported.

So, for a great life, the American fleet instead of two "Virginias" received one big "0".

Considering that the repair situation is simply catastrophic, nuclear submarines have been under repair for six years or more. The fleet is trying to transfer repairs to manufacturers who already have problems through the roof.

Where three extra Virginias will come from in the early 2030s, one can only guess.

Especially since the US Navy is drawn into a long and costly race with the Chinese Navy. And the US prospects in this race do not look bright, to put it mildly.

Here, however, the author slightly supplemented the British publicist. I refer all those interested in the original to the Navalnews website, the article is called "Understanding the timing of the AUKUS submarine program."

PS


The picture is purely illustrative.
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  1. -6
    20 July 2023 05: 37
    Considering that the situation with the repair is simply catastrophic
    - is it about the repair of Nakhimov and Peter the Great?
    1. +13
      20 July 2023 07: 30
      An article about the prospects for the Australian Navy. What is the problem with Russia? Or the fact that we have a sad situation with the ship repair - will somehow improve the situation in Australia? So I'll tell you a secret, the Australians are not going to fight with us. They are arming against China.
      1. +1
        20 July 2023 07: 39
        well, let's say they will fight with those whom Karl points out, the oath, however.
        1. +2
          20 July 2023 08: 09
          Quote: lego2
          well, let's say they will fight with those whom Karl points out, the oath, however.

          Do you mean British?
        2. +1
          20 July 2023 08: 14
          If - yes, then I hasten to disappoint. The Australian Armed Forces are completely independent
          1. +4
            20 July 2023 09: 14
            Now in the West, there is not a single independent state. Even the "big six" - small Britain and that has a certain freedom of action.
            1. +5
              20 July 2023 11: 03
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Now in the West, there is not a single independent state.

              And there is not a single completely obedient state, 100% controlled by the United States. Their lack of independence has certain limits.
              1. 0
                20 July 2023 11: 10
                What even relative independence are you talking about?))) Even if France and Germany, on command from Washington, are destroying their economies. About every little thing, such as Poland, the Baltic states, etc., I generally keep quiet. My friends live in Germany, France, Spain. Everyone speaks with one voice. Life has become not just bad, but very bad. Note that these are not refugees who sit on the social. These people work and receive a salary that is quite normal by European standards - 2,5 - 3 thousand euros. This is enough only for life now, there is no more putting it off for later.
                1. +9
                  20 July 2023 14: 21
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  What even relative independence are you talking about?))) Even if France and Germany, on command from Washington, are destroying their economies.

                  Nikolai, you just ... excuse me, you look at things in a very simplistic way.
                  First. What makes you think that the leadership of the countries, the same Germany, the same France, if they acted independently, would decide to continue buying Russian gas and oil? :)))))) Do you seriously think that they want to have something in common with Russia, so independent that it begins full-scale hostilities in the European part of the continent? Do you seriously think that they do not care about dependence on the Russian Federation for oil and gas? That they agree to sit on our oil and gas needle?
                  Well, I will disappoint you. Their interests have never converged with ours, and seeing our independence, no economic problems will stop them from "getting off their dependence", no matter what kind of breakdown follows. They get off as quickly as they can, still buying more gas from us. Their economy has not suffered fatal harm, and that life has become worse - well, the roots of the tree of freedom sometimes need to be watered with the blood of patriots.
                  1. +3
                    20 July 2023 15: 53
                    They replaced dependence on Russian gas with American gas, which is three times more expensive - a fucking benefit))) they stop trading with China (on command from Washington), that is, they stupidly kill their economy. Where is the benefit of Europe? European business unanimously brings down either the United States or China.
                    1. 0
                      20 July 2023 16: 15
                      The market value of gas in Europe (after the departure of Gazprom) ranges from $ 250 to $ 350 per 1000 cubic meters. Gas supplies to Europe are diversified, that is, supplies from various countries! And where did you see that American gas is 3 times more expensive? By the way, today underground gas storage facilities in Germany are already 84,4% full.
                      1. +2
                        20 July 2023 17: 30
                        It's now that prices have dropped. Let's see what prices will be closer to winter. How much gas storages are filled is a relative figure. They are not enough for the winter, they balance the system.
                    2. 0
                      20 July 2023 17: 51
                      Do you seriously think that they do not care about dependence on the Russian Federation for oil and gas?
                      - doesn't care. Russia was kicked out of the European gas market.
                      1. +2
                        20 July 2023 18: 43
                        One smart uncle when he said: "Never say never)))
                    3. +6
                      20 July 2023 18: 25
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      They replaced dependence on Russian gas with American gas, which is three times more expensive - a fucking benefit)))

                      Nikolai, do not consider Europeans worse than yourself. They are not bad :)
                      Even in the fifteenth year of government, it dawned on the GDP that thoughtless integration into the WTO is a little harmful for the Russian economy, and after we were poked a little with sanctions for Crimea, he announced a policy of import substitution. Understanding quite clearly that if he does not do this, then at some point they can do it for him, cutting off supplies of imported equipment, machinery, consumer goods, and so on.
                      And this policy of his decently hit ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation, since the ruble exchange rate simply collapsed for us, which is why imported sweets, to which everyone is accustomed, have become very much more expensive. So, believe me, Europe also does not want to be in a situation where it will be blackmailed with gas and oil supplies from the Russian Federation, and therefore is ready to make certain sacrifices, getting off this dependence.
                      1. +1
                        20 July 2023 18: 43
                        You can consider Europeans to be anyone))), even smart, though not very - nothing depends on them. Everything has already been decided for them and nothing good. for Europe, this is not.
                      2. +1
                        20 July 2023 18: 47
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        nothing depends on them.

                        Nicholas, questions of faith are sacred to me: You have every right to profess the religion you want. It is pleasing to you to believe in the "usimahochie" USA, at the snap of whose fingers the whole world jumps - to use it for you.
                        Fortunately (first of all - for the world) everything is not at all so simple. But this is knowledge, not faith.
                      3. +3
                        20 July 2023 21: 24
                        At the university, I took courses in "Religious Studies" and "History of Religions", so on matters of faith, I can argue as much as I like. I'm not talking about the fact that the United States is omnipotent, but that they bought (in some other way) put under control the top of Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan. The creation of the EU is America's greatest victory since the end of World War II. Democracy is a fairy tale for very naive people. Even Alexander the Great said "Equality is possible only in the mind." Democracy was under the primitive - communal system. As soon as a class society appeared - "democracy" - became "democracy for the few".
                      4. +2
                        21 July 2023 10: 39
                        if you want to have an idea of ​​how the Anglo-Saxon "democracy" functions, I recommend Carol Quigley's "The Anglo-American Establishment". Quigley's other books are also interesting, but this one is in Russian, freely available. Anthony Sutton "Skull and Bones", "Wall Street and Hitler's Rise to Power". Very educational.
                      5. +1
                        21 July 2023 19: 06
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        if you want to have an idea of ​​how the Anglo-Saxon "democracy" functions

                        Believe me, my knowledge on this issue is a little deeper than a couple of books :))) And I certainly would not follow your recommendations, since you have formed an extremely far-from-reality perception of the political-economic structure of the world
                      6. +2
                        21 July 2023 19: 02
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        At the university he took courses "Religious Studies" and "History of Religions",

                        I'm sorry.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        The creation of the EU is America's greatest victory since the end of World War II.

                        This phrase alone speaks of your complete misunderstanding of the political and economic processes. NATO is the victory of the USA. And the EU is a loser, and a very dangerous one, and in order to oversee the negative consequences, the US had to arrange a "small victorious war" in Yugoslavia. The main result of which was the fall of the status of the euro.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Democracy is a fairy tale for very naive people.

                        Oh my God....
                        Democracy is certain rules of the game, in which the prize is the management of society. Like any other rules of this kind of games, it is characterized by great hypocrisy, since one thing is declared, but in order to succeed, another must be done.
                        In general, ANY such rules (anarchy, monarchy, dictatorship, etc.) should be evaluated not from the point of view of fabulousness, morality, justice or other similar concepts, but from the point of view of the effectiveness of managing society, which these rules of the game provide.
                        And here democracy is beyond competition.
                      7. 0
                        19 August 2023 17: 27
                        What kind of competition are we talking about if the leadership of the EU is controlled by Washington?))) If earlier, in order to get the right solution, mattress covers had to negotiate with all European countries, now it’s just enough to call Brussels.
          2. +4
            20 July 2023 10: 21
            So much independent just like Canadians.
          3. +2
            20 July 2023 10: 27
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            If - yes, then I hasten to disappoint. The Australian Armed Forces are completely independent

            Prime Minister Gough Whitlam also thought that Australia independent sovereign state ©. Exactly until he was dismissed by Governor-General John Kerr - who did not even officially apply to London for this, but simply removed his power from the post of prime minister elected by the House of Representatives. smile
            1. +5
              20 July 2023 11: 14
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Exactly until he was fired by Governor General John Kerr

              What was regarded by the Australian public as exceeding his official powers, as a result of which Mr. Kerr resigned and did not hold any more political posts. And Australia has a new prime minister elected by the people of Australia.
              And yes, John Kerr is actually Australian, born in Sydney.
              By the way, the Governor General in Australia is appointed by the Monarch of Australia on the advice of the Prime Minister. Yes, the king of Britain plays the role of the monarch of Australia, but he has no real political leverage.
              1. +3
                20 July 2023 11: 57
                There are more than enough real levers to remove any politician objectionable to the United States. Examples - a million and a small cart. Remember the story about the director of the IMF and the maid in the hotel)))
                1. +3
                  20 July 2023 12: 32
                  One can well envy the tactics they have debugged of the minimum necessary impact. In such cases, we usually immediately bring in troops, with a far from unambiguous result - Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979 (the Yankees also burst there decades later, but after their twin towers they were a little crazy), Ukraine 2022 ... That's why no one considered it necessary to learn from these "examples - a million and a small cart"?
                2. +1
                  20 July 2023 14: 23
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  There are more than enough real levers to remove any politician objectionable to the United States.

                  Ugums. Script question. In Ukraine, a revolution was needed, for example.
                  No, do you seriously think that in order for Australia to declare war on the Russian Federation, it is enough to change the prime minister?! :)))))
                  1. 0
                    20 July 2023 15: 55
                    What revolution? Are you talking about the coup d'état of 2004 or 2014?
                    1. +1
                      20 July 2023 18: 07
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      Are you talking about the coup d'état of 2004 or 2014?

                      2014-th
                      1. +1
                        20 July 2023 18: 46
                        And where did you see the revolution there? A coup d'état organized and paid for by the West. In Zaporozhye, they openly called "to the Maidan" - they immediately announced the price - from just "to be on the Maidan" to "clash with the police" - 1000 UAH. in a day. There are no revolutions, there are paid coups.
                      2. +1
                        20 July 2023 20: 03
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        And where did you see the revolution there? A coup d'état organized and paid for by the West.

                        Now this is not a revolution, is it? :))))
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        There are no revolutions, there are paid coups.

                        First, it's a tautology. revolutio, so you know, is translated as a turn, a coup
                        Secondly, this is a completely useless dispute about terminology, behind which you are trying to get away from the main thing. Not even to conduct military operations against the Russian Federation, but only to change the course of an already swaying state from pro-Russian to pro-European and in order to
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        remove any objectionable US policy

                        In the person of Yanukovych, the Americans had to organize a whole circus of tents with mass protests, executions, coups and revolutions, and in order to achieve their goals they had to bring to power a whole clique of the people they needed. And this became possible primarily because in Ukraine, and before that, for decades, the anti-Russian concept was diligently implanted + there was a large layer (raguli) that the USSR did not tolerate even in Soviet times.
                        But even so, it took a long time to rock the boat before dragging Ukraine into an open conflict with the Russian Federation.
                        And in Australia, a revolution a la Ukraine will not work
                      3. +2
                        20 July 2023 21: 29
                        Yes, Yanukovych himself gave his heart's content, if you don't know. He signed an agreement with a gang of maydauns on "On the peaceful transfer of power", by the way, a representative of Russia was present there, and then the massacre on the Maidan began. The organizers of the coup did not need to remove Yanukovych, he was already tame. They needed a massacre in Ukraine.
                      4. +2
                        21 July 2023 12: 24
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Yes, Yanukovych himself gave his heart

                        In what parallel universe?
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        if you do not know

                        Do not know. And okay, just me.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        He signed an agreement with a gang of maydauns on "On the peaceful transfer of power", by the way, a representative of Russia was present there, and then the massacre on the Maidan began

                        Are you serious? :)))))) Well, then here's a lesson in recent history for you.
                        Yanukovych's "voluntary renunciation of power" began on November 21, 2013 in response to the suspension by the Ukrainian government of preparations for signing an association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union. Then, in fact, Euromadan began. And there were plenty of people who wanted to go to him.
                        Then Yanukovych, on the night of November 29-30, dispersed the opposition tent camp. Sent by Berkut. Such an act of self-denial and transfer of power, yeah.
                        The dispersal failed, the Maidan began to form self-defense units, which repelled the second attempt to disperse the opposition (apparently, Yanukovych, who was trying to peacefully give up power, was forced to do so by the reptilians from Nibiru). During this time, the opposition political parties just began to form their "national fronts" and the nationalists raised their heads. In fact, the Americans joined the circus just somewhere between November 29-30 and December 11, when Yanukovych (according to your version - the Supreme Reptilian) for the second time sent police units to disperse.
                        But this again did not help, and then Yanukovych... oh, no, the reptilian, of course, who captured him, pushed through the adoption of laws by the Verkhovna Rada on January 16, 2014, which, in particular, provided for tougher sanctions for participating in mass riots and imposed severe restrictions on a number of civil liberties, including freedom of assembly, freedom of expression and freedom of association.
                        And here blood was shed, because the unrest had already spread throughout Ukraine. There were hundreds of wounded, the first dead appeared. Here, apparently, Yanukovych managed to loosen the steel grip of the reptilians on his (throat? brain?) and made concessions on February 21, repealing some of the previously adopted laws and declaring an amnesty. Hooray, it happened, Yanukovych transferred power!
                        But the reptilians did not doze, and again enslaved the unfortunate. So on February 22, Yanukovych On February 22, a video recording of an interview with Yanukovych was broadcast, in which he stated that he was not going to resign and was not going to sign the decisions of the Verkhovna Rada, which he considered illegal, and qualified what was happening in the country as "vandalism, banditry and a coup d'état."
                        And that's when the directors staged a "heavenly hundred"
                      5. 0
                        21 July 2023 14: 48
                        And who are you telling this to? To a person who lives in Ukraine and felt all this in his own skin)))
                      6. +1
                        21 July 2023 14: 51
                        If you are not aware, I worked in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and some of my colleagues were in the cuve when all this was happening. Therefore, I am telling you not what was shown on TV, but what people who were there told me. About the "Berkut", they were issued cartridges only on February 25th. And before that, only rubber batons and traumatics.
                      7. +1
                        21 July 2023 19: 14
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        If you are not aware, I worked in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and some of my colleagues were in Kueva,

                        So you should be triple ashamed of your remarks. A leisurely person can be forgiven for judging what he does not know, but to be there and not understand anything ...
                      8. -1
                        21 July 2023 22: 40
                        It seems that you are cheating us a little. The word "kuev" is used by Russian chauvinists, not Ukrainians. Even the Vlasovites from the RDK do not write "matskva", for example.
                      9. 0
                        19 August 2023 17: 30
                        Kuev town - I never liked, especially after 2004.
                      10. +1
                        21 July 2023 18: 33
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        And who are you telling this to? To a person who lives in Ukraine and felt all this in his own skin)))

                        A person who has a very short memory, replaced by fantasies that Yanukovych gave something there voluntarily.
                      11. 0
                        19 August 2023 17: 32
                        Yanukovych had enough forces and means to restore order, but he did not use them, which by the way is a crime - criminal inactivity.
                  2. -1
                    20 July 2023 15: 58
                    Why did Australian soldiers fight in Vietnam? Did they just want to or didn't they have anything to do? So now, no one will ask kangaroos. They will give a command and everyone who does not have time to hide will run to the slaughterhouse.
                    1. +6
                      20 July 2023 18: 16
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      Why did Australian soldiers fight in Vietnam? Did they just want to or didn't they have anything to do?

                      If you are interested in this question - so why not study it?
                      In short, Australia then was not satisfied with the "spread" of communism in Asia, which the Australians considered as an important zone for themselves. Therefore, taking part in this war, Australia solved problems that it considered personal for itself. And yes, mostly by American hands, since the number of the Australian contingent, even at its peak, was about 8 thousand people, and in the early years it was 30-100 people
                      1. +3
                        20 July 2023 18: 48
                        Yeah, and in Afghanistan was the spread of communism?))) And in Iraq?))) And in any other place where the United States needs to be, they will find explanations suitable for the case)))
                      2. +1
                        20 July 2023 20: 13
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Yeah, and in Afghanistan was the spread of communism?))) And in Iraq?)))

                        No, there the Australians showed solidarity with the leading power in the world at that time and showed Asia their ability to participate in world events. Moreover, their participation both there and there was purely nominal - in the same Afghanistan, their contingent usually did not exceed 200-300 people. And in Iraq, their participation was so "large-scale" that for the entire time of their presence there, the losses amounted to as many as 2 people killed.
                        That is, Australia, both in Afghanistan and in Iraq, solved its political tasks - it showed the flag, showed that it was acting as part of international peacekeeping associations. But nowhere did she fight seriously, and militarily there was no benefit from her presence.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        and in any other place where it will be necessary for the USA

                        finally think - why did the US need 300 Australians in Afghanistan? What could 2 Australian frigates off the coast of Iraq do that the US Navy and the USMC were not capable of?
                        It’s not funny for yourself?
                      3. +2
                        20 July 2023 21: 31
                        Australians in Afghanistan, for twenty years, there were more than 300 snouts. As well as the Dutch died there, and the Poles and all sorts of other creatures, in pairs. And why did they need it?
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                      5. +1
                        21 July 2023 11: 30
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Australians in Afghanistan, for twenty years, there were more than 300 snouts.

                        Of course - those whose service life ended, they left, new ones came. Rotation took place, but on average, at the same time there were no more than 200-300 people there.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        As well as the Dutch died there, and the Poles and all sorts of other creatures, in pairs.

                        The Poles lost 13 people in 40 years of the operation, the Netherlands - 25.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        And why did they need it?

                        There were several reasons for this. First, it is politics - participation in "peacekeeping" operations raises the country's status. Secondly, this is combat experience with little effort - whatever one may say, but the army must test its skills and equipment in military conflicts, otherwise its combat readiness will go downhill. Thus, all recommended countries (and there were a lot of them) received certain military experience + political goodies at a very low price.
                      6. 0
                        19 August 2023 17: 33
                        Fucking combat experience - get a sip and crawl back)))
              2. 0
                20 July 2023 18: 54
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                What was regarded by the Australian public as exceeding his official powers, as a result of which Mr. Kerr resigned and did not hold any more political posts

                However, the powers of the governor-general remained. And there are many officials in the United Kingdom.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                And Australia has a new prime minister elected by the people of Australia.

                So the previous prime minister was also elected. You are the chosen one, Gough... smile
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                And yes, John Kerr is actually Australian, born in Sydney.
                By the way, the Governor General in Australia is appointed by the Monarch of Australia on the advice of the Prime Minister.

                You see how the royal service changes people. An Australian about blood became British in spirit. smile
                1. +2
                  20 July 2023 20: 24
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  However, the powers of the governor-general remained.

                  Sorry, I did not understand. The blundered governor-general had no powers left, he turned into a political corpse.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  And there are many officials in the United Kingdom.

                  Only now the officials of the recommended kingdom have nothing to do with Australia.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  So the previous prime minister was also elected. You are the chosen one, Gough...

                  In-in. And not appointed by the British, the Reptilians, or I don’t know who there.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  You see how the royal service changes people. An Australian about blood became British in spirit.

                  :)))) Yes, why? :)))))))
                  Kerr's story has nothing to do with Britain at all. Simply put, Kerr was in the midst of a constitutional crisis that was a private matter for the Australians, it was not inspired from outside, and Britain had nothing to do with it. There was a classic squabble for power between local Labor and the Liberals.
    2. 0
      29 November 2023 07: 50
      I think as soon as the Central Bank raises the rate to 17%, the situation will “improve”...
  2. +1
    20 July 2023 06: 03
    Building
    After the slipway is freed from the last Estuit, the Dreadnought will be laid on it. Considering that even Estuits were built on average for ten years, one can only guess how long it will take to build a larger and more technically complex boat.
    . Well, yes, they no longer have Admiral Fisher and build at an accelerated pace ... no, no, no one s.
  3. +7
    20 July 2023 08: 31
    I refer all those interested in the original to the Navalnews website, the article is called "Understanding the timing of the AUKUS submarine program."

    There is no such article on the Navalnews website. This article is from the Navy Lookout website (https://www.navylookout.com/understanding-the-timeframe-for-aukus-submarine-programme/), and the author is not identified.
    This site is about the same as VO, only it specializes in naval topics. Authors of the appropriate level, including "little, late, useless."
    1. -1
      20 July 2023 09: 16
      And you wanted information from the British General Staff? Post it, I'll read it with great interest.
      1. +6
        20 July 2023 12: 16
        And you wanted information from the British General Staff?

        I wanted the authors not to misrepresent links to primary sources, like you, and also to inform the reader about the level of articles so that he (the reader) understands what he is reading. Do you find such desires excessive?
        1. 0
          20 July 2023 21: 33
          Sorry, I made a mistake, however, anyone interested in the issue can find it himself. especially since you attribute this resource to the "yellow media")))
  4. -4
    20 July 2023 09: 31
    I generally doubt that the AUKUS project will be implemented. Serious geopolitical changes are now underway and will be followed by changes in the financial sector, and without money this stillborn Anglo-Saxon project will not survive. It remains to be seen where England will be in five years...
    1. +3
      20 July 2023 11: 14
      I have already written more than once - printing money is not a problem. Printing press, paper, paints - everything is there, in any quantities. But factories - slipways, tooling, equipment - this has been done for years. And a highly qualified worker - a welder - a ship assembler, a turner, a milling machine operator - is generally 10 years or more, until he reaches the appropriate level.
  5. 0
    20 July 2023 22: 58
    Quote: spech
    So much independent just like Canadians.

    This is the Australian dollar.
    1. 0
      20 July 2023 23: 34
      It's time to change the photo - does not correspond to reality)))
  6. 0
    21 July 2023 22: 47
    Long-term construction is a universal phenomenon.
  7. 0
    2 October 2023 10: 34
    Information has emerged that Australia transferred the equivalent of 4 billion ft. to London. Art., to begin designing promising MAPLs. Well done Britons))) new boats for the Royal Navy are being developed at the expense of Australia))))
  8. 0
    30 October 2023 15: 39
    I refer everyone interested in the original to the Navalnews website

    And then Navalny - he got it!