Hungry Front: the state attended to the sale of equipment from conservation

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Hungry Front: the state attended to the sale of equipment from conservation
Screenshots from the already non-existent website "RosReserves.RF". The Internet remembers everything.


Come - buy


The needs of the front will not always and everywhere be fully satisfied. There was no such thing in storiesso that the warring armies have enough property, equipment, fuel and ammunition. There is always something in short supply. The special operation is no exception in this series - the widespread use of funds from the civilian population for deliveries to the front is a clear confirmation of this. So it was during the Great Patriotic War. Workers raised funds for the construction tanks and artillery, and not in single copies - entire companies of military equipment often went to the front.



Now the law of the market rules, and with it there is a parallel Russia, in which dealers in conservation equipment only have time to count banknotes. Such are the grimaces of modernity - formally, all the property redeemed from the reserves belongs to the owner, and no one can do anything about it.

The only question is on what basis the property went to the merchants, if at the moment of partial mobilization there was a chronic shortage of equipment, weapons and uniforms? And that's putting it mildly.

But times are changing. For example, the RosReserves company (not to be confused with the Federal Agency for State Reserves Rosrezerv) up to a certain point extensively advertised a wide range of military equipment. "Military Review" at one time published the material "To whom is the SVO, and to whom is the mother: buy equipment from conservation”, which dealt with the sale of BRDMs, Urals, UAZs and other scarce equipment to everyone. In the midst of a special operation. Everything that can shoot, of course, is demilitarized, but this does not negate the importance of combat vehicles at the front - in any rembat, equipment will be armed worse than before.

Some time ago, an avalanche of popular indignation simply hit the RosReserva office. The admins of the firm's groups barely had time to clean up the comments, after which the owners definitely had to clean up the karma. But the seller acted much wiser - he simply sawed out all the advertising resources from the Internet. Now there is neither the RosReserves.RF website, nor the VKontakte group of the same name. The last signs of the existence of the portal date back to the beginning of July. Whether the shop is still working is unknown: the owners have done everything to make the public forget about the existence of RosReserves.

In addition to the material published above, you can add motor boats, which are so in demand by our fighters on the Dnieper. Entrepreneurs offered Master-651 boats decommissioned by the coast guard with powerful engines. According to experts, such property is automatically written off when the resource is depleted and sold to offices like RosReserves literally at the price of scrap metal. Then the equipment is brought to condition for a penny and sold with a considerable profit.

Questions arise not only to resellers, but also to ex-owners - why do decommissioned boats end up on the market, and not with our fighters on the Dnieper?

A similar situation is with the confiscated boats of poachers, of which there are more than one hundred across Russia. It took an organized appeal of military correspondents to the heads of Dagestan, Tatarstan, the Astrakhan region, the Krasnodar and Primorsky territories with a call to transfer to the army the poachers' floating craft stored in dead weight. So far, only the head of Dagestan, Sergei Melikov, has responded, instructing "to study the possibility of transferring the confiscated boats to the fighters in the NVO." How long the “study” will last is not specified.




Military correspondents publish facts from the front - the military are forced to use this.

If RosReserves prudently retired from the information field after the scandal, then the rest of the sellers of decommissioned equipment are still in the game. For example, the Phoenix extreme recreation and tourism club still offers armored personnel carriers, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and even tanks. Come buy. And Phoenix is ​​far from the only one in the industry.

Operation Confiscation


Almost five hundred days have passed since the beginning of the special operation, and the state finally decided to deal with the issue of selling Russian reserves. They struck the bell from several towers at once - journalists, military correspondents, volunteers and simply caring citizens. As a result, Dmitry Medvedev instructed the law enforcement agencies and the Federal Property Management Agency to deal with the situation.

A special question for responsible persons who are still selling military equipment from storage. In fairness, anyone who sold even a decommissioned bowler hat to offices like RosReserva after February 22 last year should be prosecuted.

There is nothing special to object to the laws of the market - until martial law is declared in the country, business will earn in all possible ways. Legal and near-legal, of course. Russia found itself in an intermediate position.

On the one hand, all signs of a market economy have been preserved, which does not deter business, including foreign ones.

On the other hand, the special operation consumes a lot of material resources, some of which simply cannot be replaced - civilian factories cannot cope. Only examples with worn out treads of KamAZ truck wheels from the NVO zone are worth something. The rear services are clearly delaying the delivery of tires, and it is not so easy for volunteers to raise several hundred thousand for changing trucks. And that's just a drop in the ocean. The market economy is not an assistant here at all, but rather the opposite.






Screenshots from the already non-existent website "RosReserves.RF". The Internet remembers everything.

What can be done now?


Do not declare martial law because of businessmen who are not ready to share the equipment bought from the reserve. The government has enough tools to resolve the issue without too much noise. First of all, the prosecutor's office and the Investigative Committee are able to double-check all acts of writing off property and payment documents for the sale of equipment. If you try hard, you can crank it out in a couple of weeks, no more. Moreover, it is worth taking sellers by the gills not only for the facts of sale from storage after 22.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX, but also for early events.

On what basis did the quite lively BRDM-2 end up on the RosReserves.RF sales website, and not on the front line? Or Ural-432066, released in 2008. How did he get on the shelf?

Some object, they say, combat vehicles come from storage in a deplorable state, and resellers invest a lot in restoration. It is on this node of the chain that one can attract caring patriots of Russia. Who are now raising money for UAZs and other front-line deficits. Declaring a fee for batteries, tires, operating fluids, dried seals and pipes for decommissioned cars from the Federal Reserve is much cheaper and will allow more equipment to be put into operation.

The prosecutor's office should demand the immediate termination in court of contracts for the sale of equipment from storage, if there is even the slightest suspicion of a corruption scheme. And equipment from virtual showrooms will go straight to the front. Yes, it will be painful for sellers, but there is no other way - in market conditions, any violation of these conditions is punishable by law.

Litigation will certainly take a lot of time, but it will set a precedent. Now the dishonest merchant will think seven times about buying another KamAZ “written off” on paper. The hour is not even, he will move to humanitarian aid to the fighters of the NWO. Why not - history knows many examples when scoundrels atoned for their sins with charity.

But what to do with those who quite legally bought decommissioned equipment even before the special operation. Restored as a native and put up for sale in "good hands." Business is business, and without declaring martial law, the country has no options to honestly take equipment for the military. Here, either to allocate budget funding, or to motivate to transfer the property of the army on credit. At interest, of course. And the businessman is profitable - he received federal loan bonds, and the state supplied the front with scarce equipment.

By the way, a business can immediately resell the securities and get the coveted cash in hand. The main thing in this scheme is the real interest of officials to resolve the issue quickly and efficiently.
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  1. +24
    13 July 2023 04: 06
    I am amazed at the naivety of the author of the article. We have "capitalism". Therefore - to whom is the war, and to whom - "the mother is dear" ... Everything is completely natural. On the contrary, it would be strange if it were otherwise.
    1. +29
      13 July 2023 04: 55
      That's right. Equipment gets to outbid for a reason. Large bureaucrats in uniform and without a share.
      1. +21
        13 July 2023 08: 01
        Quote: alekc73
        .Technique gets to outbid for a reason. Large bureaucrats in uniform and without a share.

        Are you hinting at the infallible and unjudicial Shoigu, the wise and brilliant Gerasimov, and the former Deputy Minister of Defense for Logistics, incorruptible to the point of complete disinterestedness ??
        But these are "holy people"!! Here even Wagner will not let you lie.
        It's just that the Ministry of Defense of the young state of the Russian Federation has always been oppressed by the huge and burdensome Soviet Legacy. So they sold it all these 32 years tirelessly with sweaty paws ... not sparing themselves ... not getting enough sleep ... malnourished ... that's why they swelled from hunger in their castles, and their shaky health had to be regularly corrected in warm and cozy countries with resort climate ... in their villas, of course.
        They worked for the benefit of their new capitalist homeland of the Russian Federation and its leadership. So what if Russia was left without a mobile reserve and rapidly degraded ... EVERYTHING HAS ITS PRICE! And if for the Russian Federation (the company is registered on the sea and ocean shelf of the Soviet Union) this is good, then Russia can tolerate ... tea is not the first. Let them walk in a circle with a hat, maybe they will throw on weapons, equipment and material support for PMCs of a citizen of the Russian Federation Shoigi (in simple terms - the Army of the Russian Federation) - after all, their sons, brothers and fathers are called up for partial mobilization and recruited under a contract. And since the Shoigs went to the military organization on their own - under the contract, they must provide for themselves ... themselves. And for the convenience of the population's purchases of military property, equipment and equipment, a citizen of the Russian Federation Shoyga organized the sale of this property to everyone through commercial companies such as Rosreserves.
        All in the name of man, all for the good of man. So that one person could fight at his own expense and at the expense of the Civil Society, and the other person (certainly more correct, and therefore more gifted) "warm his rolls" in Dubai. According to the laws and concepts of the Russian Federation (registered on the sea and ocean shelf of the Soviet Union) - everything is correct and legal. Therefore, the head of the RF Ministry of Defense (registered ...) for services to HIS fatherland is entitled to a marshal's baton and a new star of the hero of the Russian Federation (registered on the sea and ocean shelf of the USSR).
        1. +15
          13 July 2023 08: 21
          Actually - the situation of the times of the Russian-Japanese and WWI is repeated. When someone fought, and someone in the rear earned millions in the war. It is not for nothing that the idol of the adored guarantor is precisely our last king and his time .. Blessed RI, which we kind of lost. Alas, for some reason, at the same time, they completely do not want to remember how it all ended then.
          1. +7
            13 July 2023 08: 45
            Quote: paul3390
            Alas, for some reason, at the same time, they completely do not want to remember how it all ended then.

            Or maybe this is precisely their ... goal?
            Finish exactly like RI?
            Painfully stubborn in their aspirations.
            In any case, the goal of Shoigi's purposeful aspirations is quite obvious. Apparently, this is why the group of Shoigi and Co. has been intensively drowning the authority of the "tsar" lately.
            1. +9
              13 July 2023 09: 32
              Or maybe this is precisely their ... goal?

              Their goal is the same - loot, loot and again loot. At any cost, no matter what. Alas, these are really sick people turned on a fetish, they need to go to a mental hospital with gentle doctors, and not steer the state.
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                1. +1
                  13 July 2023 11: 36
                  Quote: bayard
                  And power.

                  This goal is one-loot and power. Power and gives loot, huge loot.
                  1. +3
                    13 July 2023 13: 06
                    There has been no USSR for 32 years, and these are all tearing up the Soviet legacy ...
            2. +2
              13 July 2023 16: 26
              And after all, they started RI immediately with Nicholas, and there were many sensible emperors there. Under the empresses, for example, the devil knows what was also going on, but the neighbors raked to the fullest, since these empresses found Suvorovs and Potemkins somewhere
              1. +2
                13 July 2023 20: 42
                Quote from alexoff
                found somewhere Suvorov and Potemkin

                And we have a military general removed from the main direction ... And not the first in the last 2 weeks.
              2. -1
                14 July 2023 17: 15
                Under the queens, capitalism has not yet happened !!! Everything was easier there. Honor of the nobility, etc. Only merchants played tricks and those close to them. Now ...... No words.
            3. 0
              14 July 2023 17: 22
              In any case, the goal of Shoigi's purposeful aspirations is quite obvious

              Apparently, talk about the "war of the elites" is not idle and not an empty ring. Even Zakharova once hinted at this.
              The feeling of deja vu does not leave ... Times change, but history repeats itself. Perhaps this happened in the very recent past. Many mysteries are connected with the very initial period of the Second World War, and with the "sudden" attack itself. And in this regard, with the behavior of famous people, in particular, Zhukov and Timoshenko, and their relationship with Stalin.
            4. +1
              16 July 2023 07: 53
              ... - Do not be surprised.
              ALL effective commanders of units and structures who have commanded since 2014 have been LIQUIDATED or removed from command (Mikhail Tolstykh (Givi). Commander of the Somali battalion, Alexei Mozgovoy. Commander of the Ghost battalion, Valery Bolotov, Arsen Pavlov (Motorola). Commander of the anti-tank special unit "Sparta", Pavel Dremov (Batya) Commander of the "Stakhanov Cossack self-defense", Alexander Bednov (Batman) Commander of the "Batman" battalion, Oleg Anashchenko Head of the People's Militia of the LPR, Gennady Tsypkalov Former chairman of the Council of Ministers of the self-proclaimed LPR, Vladimir Tsvyakh, former commander of the “Hooligan” battalion, Oleg Mamiev, commander of the “Pyatnashka” battalion, Alexander Zakharchenko, head of the DPR).
          2. 0
            14 July 2023 16: 52
            the idol of the adored guarantor is precisely our last king and his time

            I don't know about the president's idols, and neither do you, obviously, since he never spoke out on this score. And it is unlikely that this person is capable of such stupidity - to create an idol for himself.
            But the fact that there was an episode with honoring Alexander III, yes, it was, many saw it. But nowhere have I heard that in a similar vein, or even with respect, he spoke about another statesman - Nicholas II.
            But if you don't cheat, you won't sell, that's what they say, isn't it, Herr Paul? What are you trading? Just for pluses on trifles?
        2. 0
          14 July 2023 07: 21
          And what a "roof" they have! Uhhhh.
        3. 0
          15 July 2023 01: 28
          Yes, take it higher, do not be shy ... Shoigu, Shoigu. And who appointed Shoigu and keeps him at his post despite these little articles? What, Prigogine, come order to navide? I'm xs, the Wagners left, but the front did not collapse, although the military curmudgeons cackled. And as the PMC began to rent out property, so there, oh, there was nothing there ... and there were plenty of shells ...
      2. AAK
        +5
        13 July 2023 10: 11
        It turns out that one and a half million sets of "warriors" (the number for a good front-line grouping of the times of the Second World War) that have sunk into the "black hole" are just flowers, here it is quite possible to scrape together equipment for the whole front, well, not only "large bureaucrats in uniform and without", but their "roof", once and "shoulder straps and without" remained in place ... and the "roof" will try to maintain such a "status quo" in 2024 for an indefinite number of years
        1. +5
          13 July 2023 17: 30
          Quote: AAK
          "roof" will try to maintain such a "status quo" in 2024 for an indefinite number of years

          The "roof" expects to pull until 2036, but it is not a fact that in 2024 it will not "collapse". Then, in order to maintain his position, he can stir up a civil war.
    2. -1
      13 July 2023 09: 31
      I am amazed at the naivety of the author of the article. We have "capitalism". Therefore - to whom is the war, and to whom - "the mother is dear" ... Everything is completely natural. On the contrary, it would be strange if it were otherwise.

      Right. So you need to understand that the Moscow Region also buys equipment from the factory. And not the fact that it is cheaper than with conservation. For example, a motorcycle league with canned food costs approximately 1. Will Rostec sell it from the factory for that much? Far from a fact. wink

      So, before you stupidly offer to take away, you need to think, maybe it’s better to buy cheaper? hi
  2. +18
    13 July 2023 04: 39
    The main thing in this scheme is the real interest of officials to resolve the issue quickly and efficiently.

    The second year is the NWO and the state is only concerned. As if from the front they didn’t scream about the shortage and the officials live in a vacuum that they didn’t hear anything. Everything that the hand of a Russian official touches will be done for years, at best.
    1. +14
      13 July 2023 04: 46
      Again ... Yes, they all know everything very well, but "patriotism" (in current realities) is a concept for "plebs". There ("at the top") they argue in other categories - "profitable" - "not profitable", unfortunately.
    2. +11
      13 July 2023 05: 29
      So after all, it was not the state that bothered at all, but the author of the article. Medvedev is such a talking head, like there is, but does not solve anything! And the result, as usual, will be zero, probably...
    3. +5
      13 July 2023 08: 49
      Because the main task of the current official is to acquire loot in the state service, and not at all to benefit the country. Because capitalism...

      And we looked forward to the fact that you are the empress of your state and own yourself and look after your sovereign honor and profit for your state, and therefore we wanted to do such things with you. If you have people passing by you, and not only people, but trading peasants, and they don’t look at ours about sovereign heads and about honors and lands of profit, but are looking for their trading profits. And you remain in your girlish rank, as there is a vulgar girl.

      And if that's the case, we'll put those matters aside. And the trading peasants, who have set aside our sovereign heads and our state honor and profit to our lands, but look at their trading affairs, and they will see how they learn to trade!
    4. 0
      15 July 2023 01: 30
      boss, everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving
  3. +5
    13 July 2023 04: 53
    There is only one option here: the confiscation of all decommissioned military equipment in 24 hours.
    1. +5
      13 July 2023 09: 05
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      There is only one option here: the confiscation of all decommissioned military equipment in 24 hours.

      But it's "respectable people" that can suffer ...
      And where did you see such quick and CORRECT decisions in the history of the young state of the Russian Federation ??
    2. +2
      13 July 2023 13: 36
      confiscation of equipment is possible only in regions where martial law has been introduced, etc.
      I think in the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions everything has already been raked out
      here you still need to look at the legality of the seizure of private property
      the article states that this is NOT the Fed (!)
      and companies with consonant names are full in the register (see OGRN tax)
      all the more so, I can name the parking of equipment and hang out any sign even the FedReserve
      - and in fact the company that issued the FL check for CCP will be Romashka LLC
      so I'm amazed at how everyone here is led in unison to beautiful pictures
  4. +11
    13 July 2023 05: 13
    The author rather "properly" discusses the topic. He mentions capitalism several times, referring to free trade.
    And complains, complains about the situation.
    But about capitalism, the author does not want to lament? In the sense of the economic system of the state.
    And then it’s famously as it is written: let’s live in capitalism, and fight and win like the Soviet Union. Take everything from everyone and share it.
    But you can’t solve the problem by sitting on two chairs at once.
    Or, citizens, capitalism, which we "all" have chosen, or war communism and (sorry, but the logic is like this) the bourgeoisie in Magadan.
    Or free trade according to [current] laws, or .... "brothers and sisters ..."
    So the author needs to stick to some kind of shore.
    1. +4
      13 July 2023 09: 22
      Quote: U-58
      And then it’s famously as it is written: let’s live in capitalism, and fight and win like the Soviet Union. Take everything from everyone and share it.

      Quote: U-58
      So the author needs to stick to some kind of shore.

      I remember that at the height of WWI, officers and generals of the General Staff more than once turned to the tsar with the initiative to carry out ... NATIONALIZATION of all defense and strategically important enterprises in the Republic of Ingushetia and mobilize them to fully provide the warring Army with everything necessary to achieve Victory ... But the tsar did not heed their persuasion and remained faithful to the principle of "Sacred Private Property" and in every possible way favored the military-industrial committees organized by the Duma. As a result of the conspiracy of these committees under the supervision of British (and French) intelligence, he was overthrown.
      So it is now - the towers are true to their commercial interests and privileges and will not accept any seizure of their property (even with the complete confiscation of their value). This is their firm decision and iron position.
      If "some People" need Victory, then let him fork out for equipping the Army with everything necessary. And to help the plebs ... those same commercial structures for the sale of military property from the storage bases of the RF Ministry of Defense.
      Everything according to the "laws of time" and the concepts of the Russian Federation (the company is registered on the territory of the sea and ocean shelf of the USSR).
      Quote: U-58
      bourgeois in Magadan.

      And why not to the territory of the RF company - the sea and ocean shelf of the USSR? Let them live and prosper in the territory that they have determined for themselves. I propose the Arctic shelf in the area of ​​​​the Lomonosov Ridge ... Only from the coast, if they swim up, they will repel them with gaffs.
      These were fantasies on the theme of Law and Justice.
      1. +1
        13 July 2023 10: 01
        Quote: bayard
        they will not go to any seizures of their property (even with the complete confiscation of their value).

        Sorry for the blunder. In brackets should be: (even with full reimbursement of the cost) .
      2. +5
        13 July 2023 15: 55
        Quote: bayard
        I remember that at the height of WWI, officers and generals of the General Staff more than once turned to the tsar with the initiative to carry out ... NATIONALIZATION of all defense and strategically important enterprises in the Republic of Ingushetia and mobilize them to fully provide the belligerent Army with everything necessary to achieve Victory ...

        Mwa-ha-ha... apply to the head of the Surname with the initiative to nationalize the factories from which the Surname feeds. laughing
        Or gentlemen, the officers were not aware of the situation with the same "Russud" - who were given "lambs in a piece of paper" to cover the transfer of the state-owned Admiralty to a 25-year free lease (with the right to buy) to a joint-stock company, which at the time of the transfer did not even hold a meeting of shareholders for approval of the Charter? And to whom, immediately after the transfer, an order for LC was issued, moreover, with an advance payment. laughing
        1. 0
          13 July 2023 19: 57
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Mwa-ha-ha... apply to the head of the Surname with the initiative to nationalize the factories from which the Surname feeds.

          That is why more than half of the General Staff, immediately after the October Revolution, sided with the Bolsheviks, created (they, and not Trotsky) the Red Army, won the Civil War and started building a new Army and a new Russia.
          And the royal family was shot in the Ipatiev basement and other not very comfortable places.
          Every stupidity and stubbornness has its price.
  5. +8
    13 July 2023 05: 17
    If you have the political will, you can issue decrees on the temporary withdrawal of such equipment for the needs of the army with compensation (similar to how land is taken away during the construction of roads and during the demolition of dilapidated housing). And the merchants would not dare to "peep"! And the absence of such simple actions of the authorities in the conditions of war only confirms the conjectures about the opposite of real goals to what they are talking from high tribunes.
  6. +8
    13 July 2023 05: 20
    What to say The mess in the country continues. Someone is clearly warming their hands on the sale of decommissioned equipment, and, judging by the photographs, they may write off good equipment. The most funny thing is that the good NEW equipment that was being written off is being written off, and they send to the CBO what they apparently won’t sell. How can this be a question? Medvedev is trying to find out who is selling equipment, it's about the same as selling new military clothing right there.
    And suddenly it turns out that this is another "Serdyukov", one of his own. Are you kidding. Maybe.
  7. +3
    13 July 2023 05: 48
    A special question for responsible persons who are still selling military equipment from storage. In fairness, anyone who sold at least a decommissioned bowler hat to offices like RosReserva after February 22 last year should be prosecuted.?????
    1. +5
      13 July 2023 05: 56
      For what? Russia does not (officially) wage war (special operation, in general, is not regulated by the constitution). And the free market just involves sales. In fact, it is a matter of conscience.
      1. +3
        13 July 2023 09: 28
        Quote from Kwasar9000
        For what? Russia does not (officially) wage war (special operation, in general, is not regulated by the constitution). And the free market just involves sales.

        The first has nothing to do with it at all.
        The market can and does, but if financial resources are "written off", then this is already a violation of budget legislation and a criminal offense.

        Quote from Kwasar9000
        In fact, it is a matter of conscience.

        The eternal problem of all countries and peoples, when in wartime some profit from others.
        1. +3
          13 July 2023 11: 26
          What is the violation and what other legislation? wink Is the current written law violated? Well, okay - and according to the concepts, go talk with Prigozhin.
          By and large, this is the work of legislators represented by the Federal Assembly, only they do nothing at all in terms of legislative initiative, only at the whistle from the presidential administration.
          1. 0
            13 July 2023 19: 32
            Quote: hhurik
            What is the violation and what other legislation

            Budget Code of the Russian Federation. There is a whole array of rules and regulations. Only to fix the violation it is necessary to really check.
            Quote: hhurik
            written law is not violated

            Violated or not - the fact is established through examination and audit.
            Quote: hhurik
            By and large, this is the work of legislators represented by the Federal Assembly

            In general, it is not their task - this is the task of law enforcement agencies. If they filed a case, then in practice they "love" for government contracts without vaseline.
            1. +1
              13 July 2023 20: 42
              I'm embarrassed to ask: what does the price list - the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - say about the Budget Code? Well, there are rules of law there, where it is written: violated, znachitsa, the provisions of the anti-codified even in the slightest degree - and will he be overtaken by severe punishment (in years of imprisonment) and general contempt of the working and other people who have joined? And then the Criminal-Executive Code: we present you, the violator of the budget rule, a warm cell on the sunny side. Is there such a thing, or what?
              And then everything is somehow unconvincing for you: some characters from the mountain excite something ... they say, their task is (already funny) ... yeah. Here, just now, alone, because of a rebellion, aroused. Trifles, in general, it's an everyday matter - according to the process of proof. And what do we have in the bottom line after a day and a few hours?
              So if there is nothing (in terms of violations), then there is no trial. For there is no written law - there is no crime. And all doubts about guilt are interpreted in favor of the accused. hi
              1. 0
                14 July 2023 00: 16
                Quote: hhurik
                I'm embarrassed to ask: what does the price list - the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - say about the Budget Code? Well, there are rules of law there, where it is written: violated, znachitsa, the provisions of the anti-codified even in the slightest degree - and will he be overtaken by severe punishment (in years of imprisonment) and general contempt of the working and other people who have joined? And then the Criminal-Executive Code: we present you, the violator of the budget rule, a warm cell on the sunny side. Is there such a thing, or what?


                Welcome to the scary legal world - everything is there. Clever language and very broadly written: from theft to abuse of authority, from abuse to misappropriation of budget funds. And there is even for corruption (moreover, with confiscation). And it has been used for a long time.
                Moreover, there is even (but not in the Criminal Code) confiscation without a criminal offense - a very interesting rule for negligent servants :) And yes, it also applies.

                Quote: hhurik
                Here, just now, some aroused

                There is politics. And then - non-targeting or theft.

                Quote: hhurik
                And all doubts about guilt are interpreted in favor of the accused

                It's not with us. With us, if the case went to court, then really all doubts are in favor of the accuser :) No, there are, of course, "interesting" exceptions, but in the mass - exactly as described.
                1. 0
                  14 July 2023 11: 44
                  Well, that is, there is nothing in the Criminal Code about this - did I understand you correctly? Silence, even the words "budget" and "corruption" are absent from the definitions of the written criminal law.
                  But there are the usual pranks in the form of various forms of theft and the price of punishments for them.
                  So what’s the conversation about: everything is as always, the system operates in the “don’t hit the lying person” mode, as someone above correctly noted - there is no emergency, well, you shouldn’t strain yourself.
                  Look, even the death penalty has not been restored, although formally it is available in written law as a form of punishment. Just now, the former commander of the submarine was shot dead - and nothing, the criminal will live in all hands.
                  1. +1
                    14 July 2023 16: 21
                    Quote: hhurik
                    Well, that is, there is nothing in the Criminal Code about this - did I understand you correctly?

                    No. Wrong. I wrote - "misappropriation of budgetary funds."

                    Quote: hhurik
                    corruption

                    You will not find a comprehensive and precise concept of "corruption" anywhere - it is constantly changing and too broad: flowers were presented to an employee = corruption, lard was taken away = corruption. Accordingly, crimes are divided into compositions.
        2. +3
          13 July 2023 15: 58
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          The first has nothing to do with it at all.

          The first one is the most important.
          For all the demands to "understand the laws of war" without the presence of an officially declared war are just shaking the air. We are officially in peacetime - and people trade calmly, without violating the laws.
          1. +1
            13 July 2023 19: 41
            Quote: Alexey RA
            The first one is the most important.

            No, Alexey, I do not agree with you.
            Let me explain because I came across this in practice: somehow, when an overstatement under a government contract was revealed in one region, the authorities tenderly and affectionately loved all the offices that worked under such contracts, from customers to suppliers, just to find, fix and imprison. The motive was - look, we also have this and we opened it and stopped it - several assessments and examinations by various experts and contract specialists. And this happened more than once or twice.

            So in practice - everything that the author writes about - should be revealed under close scrutiny, and the existing legislation is quite enough.

            Concerning
            Quote: Alexey RA
            "dealing with the laws of war" without an officially declared war is just shaking the air. We are officially in peacetime - and people trade calmly, without violating the laws.

            You may be surprised, but even during the Second World War, they conducted a detailed investigation into the fact, sued, applied force majeure rules. Moreover, the courts assessed the possibility of force majeure on the basis of real economic activity, and not according to the philistine - "war! shoot!".
  8. -4
    13 July 2023 05: 53
    what is the article about? the Ministry of Defense is exempt from excess equipment ... and has every right to do so. we do not specify the morph of the RF how to fight. so by what right shall we teach them how to manage. but it was nice to see the abundance of equipment for sale during the liquidation of the air regiment in our settlement. kungs, luazes 967 new in sanitary design with a steering wheel in the middle ... with a swan, turning, milling, drilling machines, all kinds of tools, new trailers for vases ... and all this at bargain prices .... klondike. and Soviet cutting tools from storage are still sold in any major city. and cover everything up?
    nooo brothers ... it is impossible to cover this mighty river of Soviet high-quality metal to the people. Have we started a war? so .... some sort of .... but how it translates, hell knows.
    here Levitan declares war over the loudspeaker, then it will be possible to tighten the screws ... but for now, the beaches of Turkey, the emirates, the military illiquid assets are at our complete disposal.
  9. +1
    13 July 2023 06: 20
    Yes, it's clear what to do. Raise Stalin from the grave. But there is no real way to do this outside of fantasy books. Unfortunately.
    1. +4
      13 July 2023 06: 38
      Quote: Nagan
      Raise Stalin from the grave

      He would spit on us! And raised Dzerzhinsky with Beria.
      1. +1
        13 July 2023 09: 36
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Nagan
        Raise Stalin from the grave

        He would spit on us! And raised Dzerzhinsky with Beria.

        Comrade Stalin is not like that, to spit on the People.
        And he will bring Dzerzhinsky and Beria with him anyway. At the same time, Zhukov and Rokosovsky also. It's just enough for enough people to WANT him back.
  10. fiv
    +8
    13 July 2023 06: 25
    The examples alone with worn out treads of KamAZ truck wheels from the NVO zone are worth something. Home services are clearly delaying the supply of tires
    . There are no words. Military prosecutor's office, counterintelligence, MO in the end. We have created a dragon that only knows how to eat, and flying and puffing fire is not his concern?? And how beautifully the students of the rear academy walk at the parade!
    1. +2
      13 July 2023 09: 55
      Quote: fiv
      And how beautifully the students of the rear academy walk at the parade!

      And what a beautiful life they have. fellow Si-no-ku-ra! bully
      Quote: fiv
      We have created a dragon that only knows how to eat, and flying and puffing fire is not his concern??

      But did someone in the young state of the Russian Federation promise ... to fight? belay No. stop
      You apparently mixed up something. We were promised that "there will be no war!!!" , because now there are only partners. So do not confuse the Honest People, we have no war, but there is exclusively NWO. Therefore, the Kremlin's Mustache claims that "There will be NO Mobilization!".
      Quote: fiv
      Military prosecutor's office, counterintelligence, MO in the end.

      You have listed the departments of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - the estates of Shoigu. And he CANNOT whip himself as a "non-commissioned officer's widow" !!! Just as it cannot disrupt the smooth functioning of its food supply.
  11. +5
    13 July 2023 06: 42
    The impunity of the leaders of the Ministry of Defense LLC is to blame for everything. The guarantor appoints hucksters as ministers of defense. Why questions to "RosReserves" - buyers? Trades the Tuvan Ministry of Trade.
  12. +3
    13 July 2023 06: 43
    [quote The market economy is not an assistant at all here, but rather the opposite.] [/ quote]

    And what does the "market economy" have to do with it??!.... The state is not an enterprise. Just an epic mess.
    "Decision makers" - they do not make them, but "study questions." Legion of regulatory bodies - "does not control."

    ps They fought the coronovirus two orders of magnitude more vigorously than the mess in the rear. The "laws of business" were not spared. Decisions were made faster than the epidemic. And the quarantine was much tougher than the "Outposts of Upper Lars".
  13. +2
    13 July 2023 06: 44
    What other decommissioned military equipment? (That's what I want to say with a Stalinist accent). This, of course, is a disgrace. But, to traders - not war, but mother dear.
    1. 0
      14 July 2023 23: 38
      So I think you need to start with the one who sold it. Although it is likely the same people.
  14. Eug
    +3
    13 July 2023 06: 47
    While there is OFFICIALLY no war, peacetime norms are applied to equipment and consumables for its operation (tires, batteries, awnings, filters, etc.). The fact that these norms are completely unsuitable for the front is clear to absolutely everyone. It is not clear why there are no relevant decrees, orders, regulations, etc. from state structures, which seem to be many, but none of them work as they should ...
    1. +2
      13 July 2023 09: 34
      Quote: Eug
      As long as there is no official war,

      Do you really think that if it is "officially" announced, something will change for the better? :)
      This is not to mention the fact that almost no one has declared "war" to each other since the age of 45 - the Yankees do not bother with this nonsense at all, and we have a near-military community on this term ...

      In fairness, but in some ways the situation is slowly but improving. And in something it is necessary to initiate criminal cases.
  15. +4
    13 July 2023 06: 47
    Prosecutor's office must demand immediate termination judicially agreements on the sale of equipment from storage,

    The prosecutor's office should demand the conviction of the generals and colonels who wrote off this equipment from the army.
    But the prosecutor's office and the UK will not demand. Who knows who will be investigated. For example, to the general’s wife, who, even under the stool, was in charge of finances ... “More expensive for yourself,” as it were, it didn’t work out.
    1. 0
      13 July 2023 16: 00
      Quote: Amateur
      The prosecutor's office should demand the conviction of the generals and colonels who wrote off this equipment from the army.

      And on what basis? If peacetime norms are not violated, then nothing can be done. We don’t have a war - there is only NWO.
  16. +2
    13 July 2023 08: 15
    I wonder, but if martial law is declared, will all-wheel drive vehicles be taken away from the population? Well, UAZ sable fields are understandable, but what about SUV crossovers?
    1. +3
      13 July 2023 09: 02
      Ramniki will take a hundred pounds. Others, hardly.
  17. +3
    13 July 2023 09: 14
    on what basis the property went to merchants

    Judas from the Moscow Region give the equipment to the hucksters for sale.
    These are the times.
    CBO is looking more and more like a commercial operation.
  18. +1
    13 July 2023 10: 19
    And who tried to find on the Internet those very pages of screens that the author attached? I haven't found it. request
    1. +3
      13 July 2023 12: 17
      vovochkarzhevsky
      And who tried to find on the Internet those very pages of screens that the author attached? I haven't found it. request

      Is this something?
      https://rosreservy.vsite.biz/#products
      1. +2
        13 July 2023 13: 23
        Is this something?
        https://rosreservy.vsite.biz/#products


        Thanks for the link. Yes
        1. 0
          16 July 2023 08: 02
          banned on google?
          Disappointing... :)
  19. +1
    13 July 2023 11: 22
    There are two legal options and one semi.
    .
    1. Initiation of a criminal case against the VP
    2. Confiscation of goods (the military or military + commerce is to blame here)
    3. Redemption by the patron of all goods and transfer to the army.
  20. +1
    13 July 2023 12: 40
    Kamaz produced about 2022 trucks in 44, why buy already decommissioned equipment for the troops?
    1. +2
      13 July 2023 13: 34
      Kamaz produced about 2022 trucks in 44, why buy already decommissioned equipment for the troops?


      And how many of them got into the troops?
  21. +1
    13 July 2023 17: 45
    Author: Now the law of the market rules, and with it there is a parallel Russia, in which dealers in conservation equipment only have time to count banknotes.
    Looking at the problem more broadly, it is easy to see the following:
    https://svpressa.ru/society/article/378559/
    ... Among the 117 billionaires of the Russian Federation at the beginning of 2022, 46 had foreign citizenship, 65, in addition to Russia, lived abroad, 78 had family members living there, and more than 88 (or ¾) had real estate abroad ...
    The total wealth of those who partially or completely linked their personal lives with foreign countries, while profiting in the Russian Federation, is $ 462 billion. The estimate is still underestimated, because much is simply not written. Thus, a 2018 survey showed that among the rich in the Russian Federation with $50+ million, 58% had foreign citizenship. For comparison, in not the most prosperous Latin America, this figure is only 41%.
    The most popular passports are Cyprus, Israel and the UK. But even if the rich formally lived in the Russian Federation, few can be suspected of patriotism.
    ...Today, all these wonderful people present themselves as such "doves of peace", as if they are not saving selfish things, but are categorically protesting against the order that reigns in the Russian Federation. When the same “order” contributed to their enrichment, they not only did not object, but also rushed in every possible way ...
  22. 0
    13 July 2023 20: 18
    Or maybe they are driving faulty equipment to the NWO under the guise of a new one, this can also be. They sell new cars.
  23. +1
    13 July 2023 20: 22
    The topic is correct, but I can not agree with the author. Obviously, when something is needed, funds are allocated for it, and if funds are not allocated, then it is not very necessary. We only have KAMAZ, Urals working in three shifts, and still there are few trucks - no. Maybe they are building an understudy for KAMAZ? No. Maybe there is a shortage of trucks in the country - no. Maybe they bought all the trucks from China - also no. Maybe there is no equipment in storage - there is.

    The fact that everything is probably not so simple with the transfer of property from storage to private hands is most likely, but here the question is not for those who bought it - what questions do they have until the fact of a bribe is proven - if it was, the question is for the state: what laws and how their implementation is controlled. The main criminals are the deputies - if this is the law, the security agencies, the apparatus of the president, the government, the defense ministry, if they do not analyze and do not propose to the president changes to "leaky" laws and regulations.

    Regarding the fact that there are no wars, when everything is enough for everyone ... I don’t know about everyone. America fought all over the world, but I didn’t see any examples of military personnel under contract in Libya, Syria, Iraq and the devil knows where (our country built its own Armed Forces with an eye on this experience) US citizens massively chipped in, bulletproof vests, quadrocopters ... I would be glad if you give such examples. Therefore, I don’t know to call for requisition and help the army ... I’m not talking about the sacred cow of private property, I’m talking about the fact that the state receives taxes for that in order to fulfill tasks. But if he doesn’t comply, there should be clear answers: who is guilty - along the entire chain, why they allowed it, what was done so that it would never happen again, why the control bodies did not report, and if they did, who committed the crime without taking action. Take the Red Square to read out the order and show these smart beautiful faces right under the video cameras and to the front line in the assault groups, of course, when surrendering everything illegally acquired. Otherwise, according to an accelerated procedure, on the same square, put in a line and from a machine gun to hell ...
  24. +2
    13 July 2023 23: 03
    What can we say about petty hucksters, when on TV they show a meeting of the latter with the president, where the issue of launching the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline is being discussed - this is just a NWO.
  25. +2
    14 July 2023 19: 05
    Tell me, who needs this military stuff? Of the equipment for a private trader, only the BRDM-2 may be of interest, the rest are prohibited from driving on general roads. Trucks? Those with a flow rate of 100 liters per 100 km, without power steering, but with all sorts of military bells and whistles that increase the mass? With insurance, for example, how are they? Which dealer to go to? Business people don't need that. And they are needed by the same state offices. Here, for example, the equipment from my collection was sold before they ended (R-404 radio relays). To whom? Gazprom. Pull the communication line in the tundra.
    It really doesn’t hurt to check the sellers, it was very impressive how they sold the equipment right from under us.
    1. 0
      April 27 2024 03: 59
      good question, and given the strategic importance, why buy it when you can simply confiscate it, since many laws were broken? total economic freedom only works in countries that print their own money.
  26. +2
    15 July 2023 20: 41
    Article by Evgeny Fedorov - for the mass "release of steam" of those who write and read on VO. I will try to "send", especially the "outraged", to the original source - "Capital" by K. Marx. Everything is described in detail there, and you can also go to “Imperialism, as the highest stage of capitalism. Popular essay "- the economic work of V. I. Lenin, which was a continuation and development of Karl Marx's Capital ..... Something like this ...
  27. +1
    30 July 2023 02: 48
    where is the main essence of this question, how does this equipment get on sale at all instead of staying in storage ?? who does it
  28. 0
    26 August 2023 11: 42
    ....................................All according to plan!.......... ......................