What problems will be solved after the formation of a new army

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What problems will be solved after the formation of a new army

Against the backdrop of the events that took place quite recently, we somehow miss other events that will soon be called at least a timely decision taken and implemented by the country's leadership. Let's talk today about ... the experience of the Great Patriotic War and how we use it today. That is, about reserve parts, connections and associations that are already being created.

We are well aware that modern warfare is very different from those that took place in the last century. Only a very lazy person did not talk about this. But at the same time, reports somehow imperceptibly pass that some kind of operation in the NVO zone completely copies the operation developed during the capture by the Germans or the liberation of the Red Army of Soviet Ukraine during the Great Patriotic War.



But the topic of this material is somewhat different. About the reserves that you need to have in order to respond in time to emerging risks in the NWO zone. But it is quite possible that we will need connections and associations on other theaters of operations. The world really stands on the edge, at the very abyss, at the line beyond which the lives of many people on this planet can change or stop.

“We are forming reserves as part of the army corps, the army, plus five regiments of the 20th army. Everything is going according to plan. In fact, by the end of June we will complete the formation of the reserve army and in the near future we will complete the formation of the army corps.

This is a quote from the speech of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and members of the Security Council. To date, according to Shoigu, 60% of this reserve for equipment and weapons has been formed. Work on the formation of the reserve is planned to be completed in the near future. Until the end of July this year.

Lessons should not be passed, but taught


So it turns out that we have, probably, the greatest experience of participating in global wars of our time. Too we are a tasty morsel for the West. Accordingly, we have the opportunity to study the actions of commanders and chiefs not only on the fronts, but also in the rear. Those actions that ultimately led to another victory over the enemy.

Remember the description of the actions of our troops in the first period of the war? How did divisions and even armies die in boilers, how many Red Army soldiers were captured and died in the first months of the war? I do not want to talk about some kind of military genius of the Germans, about the miscalculations of our command, about the shortcomings of our equipment and weapons. It's about something completely different.

Even after the monstrous losses of the first period of the war, our army continued to defend itself and inflict serious damage on the Nazis. What is the reason for this phenomenon?

First of all, there are reserves. In the possibility of not only transferring already existing and long-established divisions from the east of the country, but also in the formation of new divisions directly in the front-line areas.

Suffice it to say that during the first year of the war, 97 divisions from the deep rear and 194 newly formed divisions were sent to the front! Among these divisions were 35 divisions of the people's militia! Those that today are called territorial defense. But there were also 94 new brigades! And all this for six months of the war. Other figures look no less impressive. For example, the number of armies in six months increased from 20 at the beginning of the war to 71 at the beginning of 1942.

One can, of course, blame our command for shortcomings in this matter in the pre-war period and for the fact that the new divisions were poorly trained and suffered huge losses, as well as for the lack of equipment and heavy weapons. Everything is so, but it was these poorly trained divisions that did the main thing - they stopped the enemy and made it possible to pull up reserves from the east.

Indeed, these are forced actions. The command was well aware that the militias would not be able to withstand the experienced Germans for a long time, but there was no other way out. And the new connections really stood to death! No step back! This is not a slogan, this is the norm of life for soldiers and officers of that time. Die but stay!

But already in 1942, the very principle of manning units and subunits changed. Now, new units were not formed from the replenishment, instead, battered units were taken out from the front to rest and reorganize. In the rear, recruits were trained, including experienced soldiers and sergeants, and coordinated. Now young soldiers could learn from the experience of veterans and quickly become experienced warriors themselves.

This principle of formation has borne fruit. Losses dropped sharply, the army began not only to defend, but also to attack. It can be said that a completely new army was born. Moreover, after the failures of the first year of the war, the command began to track specialists, such as tankers, artillerymen, sappers, who, even after treatment, could not be sent to serve in other branches of the military.

Members of the NWO should become the core of new parts


We write and talk a lot about how we lack junior officers. And at the same time, we argue that a whole galaxy of commanders of platoons, companies, and even battalions and brigades have appeared at the front, who have grown from ordinary fighters during the NMD. This is especially true for the formations of the Donbass.

And how many sergeants have been in command of platoons for a long time? They command with the rank of sergeant, although they could have become junior lieutenants for a long time. Even those who have remained in the positions of sergeants and have been fighting for several months or years can become excellent instructors for new recruits.

When forming new units and formations, there will be a place for all these officers and sergeants. In addition, they will have the opportunity to complete either courses or military educational institutions, and thus the issue of military education for such fighters will be resolved. This is very important for the career growth of military personnel.

There is another way to form new parts. This is the withdrawal to the rear of the units and subunits that were the most battered in previous battles, and their reorganization and resupplying as part of new formations. But in this case, it is necessary to understaff such units with officers educated in military universities of the Russian Federation.

In any case, the creation of a reserve army must be combined with the solution of the problem of sergeants and officers, who, by their service in the NVO zone, have proved that the army is needed and that they have the talent and will of the commander. Again, remember the Great Patriotic War. How many talented commanders and military leaders then appeared. In many ways, it was thanks to such commanders that we won.

Well, the last on this issue.

Units and subunits formed according to this principle, if necessary, can be easily withdrawn from the new reserve army and sent to replace other units that need rest. Send exactly as a part or connection, and not as a replenishment. Fully equipped with everything you need and ready for combat use without additional training.

Such a replacement will solve the problem with the terms of stay in the NWO zone. Something that is often talked about both in the army and in civilian life. By the way, this is how the Armed Forces do it. Another brigade comes to the place of the defeated brigade. And the remnants of the destroyed compound are included in the composition of those who came to replace.

Why is the issue of reserves urgently needed to be addressed?


I have already written above that the issue of the reserve army is very acute. This is connected not only with the NWO, but also with the aggravation of the situation in international relations. I think that today no one will be able to predict the border that politicians will not cross.

As has already happened more than once, a war can be started not by world powers, but by any “state trifle”. In small states, the system of control over politicians is weaker than in large powers. The example of Ukraine, I think, convinced all skeptics how quickly such a reckless state can be created.

I will not reveal a secret if I say that success in war largely depends on the military might of the state. More precisely - on the ratio of the military power of the enemy countries. Quite simply, success in war depends on how effectively the state can realize its military, economic, ideological, political, scientific, technical and other potentials.

Military power is by no means only the power of the army. Everything that I have listed above constitutes the potential military power of the country. By the way, that is why today more and more often there is an opinion about the impossibility of Ukraine's victory in this confrontation. No one claims that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are weak or poorly armed. No, conclusions are drawn based on the study of all factors.

An army without a rear, the maximum that it can do is to delay its death with personal courage and the talent of commanders. Everything will simply lie down under the blows of the enemy ... This is what we are seeing today in Ukraine.

Short conclusion


I will not write much on the results. Just some personal observations.

There is no doubt that the task of forming a new army will be accomplished. As well as the fact that not a rear, but a combat army will be created, the core of which will be front-line soldiers. For many officers, this will be another promotion.

What I wrote above is quite obvious facts. SVO is being carried out and while the fighting is ongoing, any surprises are possible. The new army closes this issue. But, in my opinion, this army will be designed to solve completely different tasks. Let's just say it will be an offensive army. Let's look at the result, according to what units and formations will arm. This will tell the experts a lot.

Where such an army can attack is not important. The important thing is that we are bringing our Armed Forces to a level that will ensure the real security of Russia from any surprises and the punishment of any enemy, if necessary. If the army does not advance, the army does not win!
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  1. +16
    30 June 2023 04: 17
    Members of the NWO should become the core of new parts

    The members of the SVO are the highest quality reserve for the formation of not only a new army, but also the institution of state managers. Real officials who are able to solve problems, and not fill their pockets and not arrange a three-month vacation for themselves to ensure the election campaign of the mayor of the capital.
    It is necessary to serve the Fatherland, and not Your (Their) Excellency ...
    1. +48
      30 June 2023 07: 17
      1. First you need to achieve all the goals of the NWO and complete victoriously.
      Members of the NWO should become the core of new parts

      2. Most are demobilized - because fighting is not an attractive pastime.
      3. Any experience in our army is reset to zero with the advent of a new commander. See the First Chechen, when the experience of the Afghan was completely forgotten after 5 (!) Years.
      4. "We didn't send you there" - nobody canceled this principle of bureaucrats.
      1. +15
        30 June 2023 09: 17
        In general, to the point ... And the new ones said: "if you don't like it, quit"
        1. +1
          5 July 2023 21: 54
          "What problems will be solved after the formation of a new army"

          The old ones need to solve problems in the troops. With uniforms, ammunition, and most importantly Caliber and Iskander .. To bombard the enemy with TNT!
          And then new
          -
      2. +18
        30 June 2023 10: 14
        Quote: Civil
        3. Any experience in our army is reset to zero with the advent of a new commander. See the First Chechen, when the experience of the Afghan was completely forgotten after 5 (!) Years.

        You can still remember 08.08.08/58/XNUMX, when the experience of the Second Chechen War was forgotten in the same way - one flying in a column with Khrulev into an ambush was worth something. Moreover, this experience was forgotten in the XNUMXth A.
        1. +4
          30 June 2023 10: 51
          Quote: Civil 3
          . Any experience in our army is reset to zero with the advent of a new commander. See the First Chechen, when the experience of the Afghan was completely forgotten after 5 (!) Years.
          4. "We didn't send you there" - nobody canceled this principle of bureaucrats.


          As a result - young guys "flying off the coils" ..
          Those who were stronger mentally began to go into the "shadow" - into the "brigades" (well, or into the "brotherhood"). Those who were weaker in psyche - drank themselves, chipped off, committed suicide - in general, at best, they ended up in a penitentiary. Because the state essentially abandoned them.
          However, there were those who, without any problems, poured into social life in civilian life. But those guys still had mental problems, and if they didn’t start families on time, then ...
          This is also an important point that the state needs to solve better than in the eighties.
          1. -2
            1 July 2023 07: 48
            Soldiers who have returned home may be fine people, but marrying them is very dangerous and no military pension is worth the risk. Such psychological trauma is a serious matter, and these people will rush not at Shoigu, like the Wagnerites, but at those who are most defenseless - their own families.
      3. +4
        30 June 2023 10: 48
        Quote: Civil
        - Nobody canceled this principle of bureaucrats.

        The simplest solution is to abolish bureaucrats. Yes, only there are now all of their own ... But, as you know, they don’t leave their own.
        If Shogu is not removed within the next couple of months, nothing will change. If such odious perpetrators of all that mess that has been going on for a year and a half, they will not be punished or simply will not leave their posts ... there is nothing to hope for.
        And the conflict with the most combat-ready formation / association (if you count 50 thousand of the most experienced fighters for the army, because there is no more in the modern armies of the Russian Federation) Russia does not talk about this - it screams!
        If not for the head of the Moscow Region, Shoyga, but for the NGSH Gerasimov, if they hadn't done such lawlessness, Wagner could have provided command personnel for a group of 200 thousand bayonets. And this is for a moment - TWO full-blooded combined arms armies, or FOUR armies of the modern Russian Federation.
        This is the price of foolishness, greed, laziness, arrogance and tyranny.
        About the "knightly discipline" of the Maltese knight from Tuva ... just keep silent.
        1. +4
          30 June 2023 11: 07
          Quote: bayard
          If Shogu is not removed within the next couple of months, nothing will change


          And what will actually change with the departure of the current Minister of Defense?
          Just after the "putsch", they can appoint such a position, first of all, to the same in terms of loyalty and almost the same in terms of efficiency (of course, it's not for me to speak about the effectiveness of the current Minister of Defense).
          1. +4
            30 June 2023 12: 14
            Quote: Simple
            Just after the "putsch", they can appoint such a position, first of all, to the same in terms of loyalty and almost the same in terms of efficiency

            At the moment, Russia is practically at war with NATO and Co., in Ukraine. And the task now is - Victory, otherwise there simply will be neither Russia, nor Russians, nor those who are with Russians. So the Army must fight and win, and the Defense Ministry must ensure the organization of this process. Therefore, the Ministry of Defense should be headed primarily by a military man, and not a clown with anniversary tsatsk in the army and who has not served a day. And he is obliged to obey the president, not to subdue and isolate him.
            MO must leave not only these two ghouls, but also parquet mediocrity. We have sensible generals who are able to lead both the Moscow Region and the General Staff.
            If this cleansing does not take place... the last trust in the towers will evaporate. And after the defeat of them (towers) the winners will feed the pigs. In the most direct sense.
            1. +16
              30 June 2023 16: 08
              Quote: bayard
              So the Army must fight and win, and the Defense Ministry must ensure the organization of this process. Therefore, the Ministry of Defense should be headed primarily by a military man, and not a clown with anniversary tsatsk in the army and who has not served a day.

              If only everything was that simple. Remember the First Chechen? But then the Defense Ministry was headed by an army general, a paratrooper, with combat experience ...
              And I still don’t remember how the regular officers of the Soviet training in a couple of years were taken away by private firms and sold the whole fleet for metal.
              1. +10
                30 June 2023 16: 53
                Yes, everything becomes absolutely logical, if you understand that the degradation began not 20 or 30, but more than 50 years. The era of late (as they said then - developed) socialism could not but give rise to Gorbachev, Yeltsin and their "comrades-in-arms" (accomplices). So why be surprised at yet another confirmation of the well-known fact that the army is a reflection of the whole society? Where could competent and honest generals come from? And now no one even considers it necessary to encrypt, at any level.
                1. 0
                  1 July 2023 10: 15
                  No matter where you drop a mess, nepotism, corruption, no one is responsible for anything, Chubais, but an obvious enemy of the people, a traitor, has made billions of debts, most likely put it in his pocket and calmly went over the hill, super.
              2. +5
                30 June 2023 22: 48
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Quote: bayard
                So the Army must fight and win, and the Defense Ministry must ensure the organization of this process. Therefore, the Ministry of Defense should be headed primarily by a military man, and not a clown with anniversary tsatsk in the army and who has not served a day.

                If only everything was that simple. Remember the First Chechen? But then the Defense Ministry was headed by an army general, a paratrooper, with combat experience ...
                And I still don’t remember how the regular officers of the Soviet training in a couple of years were taken away by private firms and sold the whole fleet for metal.

                They sold it because the government allowed it and took part in it on shares.
              3. +1
                30 June 2023 22: 53
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Remember the First Chechen?

                How to forget her.
                Quote: Alexey RA
                But then the Defense Ministry was headed by an army general, a paratrooper, with combat experience ...

                And now the Airborne Forces have been headed by General-Admiral / Universal Soldier Makarevich ... And there has been a mess in command and control.
                Quote: Alexey RA
                And I still don’t remember how the regular officers of the Soviet training in a couple of years were taken away by private firms and sold the whole fleet for metal.

                Shoigi's rear service is also a lot to carry.
                Quote: bayard
                We have sensible generals who are able to lead both the Moscow Region and the General Staff.

                Judging by the latest news, there are fewer and fewer of these left ... and fewer.
                And this is during the war.
                1. +1
                  1 July 2023 12: 30
                  Sorry but you are wrong. Now the Airborne Forces are headed by Teplinskiy, he was already returned a long time ago
                  1. 0
                    1 July 2023 21: 15
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    Teplinskiy, he was already returned a long time ago

                    Yesterday or the day before yesterday, the guys from the front swore at the new commander - Makarevich.
                    There are contradictory rumors about Teplinsky - both about the fact that Gerasimov was sent with his genius, and about the fact that it was him in Gerasimov's place.
              4. 0
                2 July 2023 20: 24
                And now, don’t they sell it, during the NWO, everything is sold to Ukraine and the West, metal, wood, coal, fuel, and weapons and ammunition go back to Ukraine and all this flies at our fighters, is that normal ??
              5. 0
                3 July 2023 15: 34
                In the first Chechen policy, the army was not allowed to fight.
            2. +1
              1 July 2023 13: 30
              If this cleansing does not take place... the last trust in the towers will evaporate. And after the defeat of them (towers) the winners will feed the pigs. In the most direct sense.

              Don't worry, no one will feed you with towers.
              1. +1
                1 July 2023 21: 22
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Don't worry, no one will feed you with towers.

                We in the Donbass have been fed only with fables for 9 years.
        2. +2
          30 June 2023 16: 58
          The simplest solution is to cancel bureaucrats

          The state without officials does not exist in principle.
          Therefore you are stupid. wrote.
          However, about Shoigu is nonsense. You can remove it and I would remove it. That's just it is NOTHING from what is written above will not solve.
          I really wonder are you so naive or just like to write? laughing
          1. +1
            30 June 2023 23: 29
            Quote: bk316
            The state without officials does not exist in principle.

            It was just a slogan for a slogan. Officials are different. Some build the state and lead to victories and prosperity, others destroy, plunder and lead to disgrace.
            Until today, there was a shadow of hope that what happened would shake up this bedbug and personnel conclusions would follow. It is unacceptable when during a difficult war the Army is led by those whom this Army despises and hates. But the towers decided that EVERYTHING was acceptable.
            Quote: bk316
            . You can remove it and I would remove it.

            Instead, they removed Surovikin and left Teplinsky. They say there are many more. And remove the Monument ... this nizya - looking at the power block from the Family.
            Quote: bk316
            I really wonder are you so naive or just like to write?

            I just don't like what's going on.
            Absolutely.
          2. 0
            1 July 2023 14: 36
            However, about Shoigu is nonsense. You can remove it and I would remove it. That's just it is NOTHING from what is written above will not solve.
            Of course, just lost the best army in the world.
          3. TIR
            0
            2 July 2023 11: 33
            Shoigu through his daughter turns things around. Tolya's son-in-law Stolyarik, a semi-poker, is aware of all these matters. Therefore, he openly spits on the army and Russia. I think he is not the only one in the family who has such an anti-Russian attitude
        3. +1
          30 June 2023 17: 18
          Empty.
          They share money.
          Shoi5 was put on streams.
          Give to one and save from the other.
          Все.
          Not the lives of 10-20-50 thousand people, but the rivalry of fin-industry groups + watered parties.
          It is not the position of the Russian Federation in the world and Eastern Europe that is being determined, but the modest "who keeps the bump in Swiss banks" and multi-state influence groups.
          No country will emerge alone.
          1. 0
            1 July 2023 00: 29
            Quote: antivirus
            No country will emerge alone.

            This is true, but there is one exception - Russia. hi
        4. +1
          1 July 2023 18: 42
          . If Shogu is not removed within the next couple of months


          Well, you are naive! And what will change? Everything that happens is not the result of the actions of one person. This is the result of the internal policy of the state. A huge number of people are involved in this. In the end, read the Strugatsky "It's hard to be a god." Replacing one person will not solve anything. At all. Another will come. The same, if not worse.
      4. +1
        30 June 2023 16: 54
        Most are demobilized - because fighting is not an attractive pastime.

        It is obvious . That's why..
        The members of the SVO are the highest quality reserve for the formation of not only a new army, but also the institution of state managers.
        1. 0
          30 June 2023 23: 31
          Quote: bk316
          That's why..
          The members of the SVO are the highest quality reserve for the formation of not only a new army, but also the institution of state managers.

          This has never happened in the Russian Federation, and now ... again?
          There will never be such a thing.
          This was in the Union, and even then under Stalin. And then everyone fought.
      5. 0
        1 July 2023 15: 24
        Not just members of the NWO should be promoted to command positions in the army, but those of them who, in their "moral and business" turned out to be on top. After all, a person can be personally brave, but no leader. Or pride will develop exponentially... Examples of darkness. The famous Grizodubova, "Chkalov in a skirt," went to the point of writing slander to Comrade himself. Stalin, in order to knock out a general for himself, although she commanded part of it badly. More precisely, she did not command at all. It didn’t work out to get the general, it’s good that they didn’t shoot him for deceiving the leader.
        I served under the General Hero of the Soviet Union, who was only good at yelling.
        The very system of military service must be changed. How?
        The conversation is long. But, we need an independent body to control the state of affairs in the Armed Forces, such as the People's Commissariat of State. control under Stalin. In order for the army not to turn into a bureaucratic machine, real tasks are needed, if not military operations, then complex exercises, training of officers in combat operations during armed conflicts, etc. a rigid system for assessing the order and discipline in the troops, independent of statistics
        "landings" and dismissals, if the offenses were discovered and legally stopped by the commanders themselves.
        And the experience of battles ... Everyone knows it, it is recorded in textbooks and charters. But not everyone is able to use it creatively. And many don't want to. It's more comfortable and quieter.
  2. +17
    30 June 2023 04: 20
    The one who, among other things, was able to create and maintain reserves wins the war! If you didn’t do short-term training courses for junior officers from among the fired soldiers and sergeants, then this is a big mistake!
    1. +2
      30 June 2023 20: 43
      maiman61 (Yuri). . Today, 04:20. NEW. your - "... the one who, among other things, was able to create and maintain reserves wins the war! If they did not do short-term training courses for junior officers from among the fired soldiers and sergeants, then this is a big mistake!..."
      Quote from the author
      ".... Suffice it to say that during the first year of the war (WWII) 97 personnel divisions from deep behind and 194 newly formed divisions! Among these divisions were 35 divisions of the people's militia! belay Those that today are called territorial defense. But there were also 94 new brigades! And all this for six months of the war. good НOther figures look less impressive. For example, the number of armies in six months increased from 20 at the beginning of the war to 71 at the beginning of 1942...."

      maiman61 (Yuri). you raised a VERY important question. He is constantly trying to RAISE including and on VO. but the answer is full of figs to you bully belay Yes ... from short-term training courses for junior officers from among the fired soldiers and sergeants ... There were attempts to somehow close up the "holes" in the early 2000s after the "successes" of the 90s. when with "USA we are friends" and "loot wins over EVIL". When entire schools were reduced. not to mention the courses of VU graduates and just cadre officers were kicked into the "peaceful democratic" tomorrow.
      Experience as OWN soldier (RI. USSR) and global bully - SEA.
      But. "... we are not used to backing down in the face of difficulties ..." and therefore WE WAIT for the next GRABEL (someone is more pleasant - Roasted Rooster). crying
      It seems that it is easier to launch the "Vseobuch" program for those. who is in the future(""Thank you. sworn partners") it may turn out to be as part of volunteers or mobilized, or just need a HOME.
      It's one thing for 3 months from "0" to five. belay
      Another - when still at home - they will tell. they will show and under the "sensitive" guidance of those who have combat experience in the state of the VC or after hospitals they will conduct training and coordination with involvement at "home" ... as part of a stubbornly not accepted by the term - the so-called. territorial defense (name as before 1938 the territorial - militia defense system ..
      depends on a situation...
      soldier angry (but you never know "situations" in the Russian Federation - for example, Xfrancia again showed. which is NOT small. And if either here an Englishwoman with grandfather BI suddenly "helps" .. they are still sorting out OPTIONS.) am
      SUCH - are local "thinned out" garrisons back in the 90s (garrisons can be territorial and local) and also the existing bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs !? belay feel
      It is unlikely that the "partners" will abandon the goals set by THEM and the assessment of THEIR OWN prospects in the event of the VICTORY of the Russian Federation, am
      Remembering the experience of WWII. such detachments provided assistance to law enforcement agencies in the field by strengthening security. defense of military-industrial complex facilities. life support. with the opposition of the DRG.
      But. not just COLLECT. like once Soviet "partisans" in overcoats without epaulettes and dying from idleness with an "unbearable struggle" with a "green snake" and constantly prepare according to programs - those in the reserve l \ s of the reserve of different CATEGORIES. age and rank of conscription. pre-conscripts.
      1. The experience of pre-war until 1938 and the military "Vseobuch".
      2. The experience of Switzerland (but here the WILL of the state is needed due to the obligation of socially concerned businessmen to pay at the rate of a working day for periods of training).
      3. See world experience if only not "... suddenly winter came ..." crying

      R.S. Until the Roasted COCK has arrived, it's time to remember .... L / s cannot be trained in a week, and even more so, taking into account modern databases and the experience of France. hi
    2. +1
      30 June 2023 22: 53
      Quote: maiman61
      The one who, among other things, was able to create and maintain reserves wins the war! If you didn’t do short-term training courses for junior officers from among the fired soldiers and sergeants, then this is a big mistake!

      It seems Talleyrand said - this is not a crime, this is worse - this is a mistake.
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  4. +40
    30 June 2023 05: 15
    Again, for some reason, the glorious deeds of another system are mixed with the current one. Zadolbali already these crooked projections, saying kaaaaak start! Let's not start! Only the Soviets were able to do this in Russia, and these have never been able to in 30 years, except for stunning devastation. But for not having their own achievements, they will endlessly throw Soviet fluff over themselves, while fighting with it with a "blowtorch".

    I will also get to the bottom of this slogan: "Participants of the NWO should become the core of new units."
    Of course they will! The core of the Red Army, as those participants from the First World War became.
    After all, everything is very similar, even the recent "Kornilov rebellion".
    1. -3
      30 June 2023 17: 00
      So in Russia only the Soviets were able,

      Napoleon was also gouged by the advice?
      Oh, these storytellers ...
      How old are you?
      1. +3
        30 June 2023 20: 07
        Napoleon was also gouged by the advice?

        as Suvorov said "It's hard to learn easy on a campaign"
        the main losses of soldiers in those days were not in battles, but precisely in "campaigns"
        Kutuzov did just that
        French troops received the main losses during movements
        and lost very combat-ready units
        and in France, Napoleon had already recruited only recruits ...
      2. +2
        30 June 2023 22: 56
        Quote: bk316
        So in Russia only the Soviets were able,

        Napoleon was also gouged by the advice?
        Oh, these storytellers ...
        How old are you?

        No, Moscow was not surrendered under the Soviets, but Napoleon took Moscow under the tsar.
        1. 0
          1 July 2023 14: 13
          No, Moscow was not surrendered under the Soviets, but Napoleon took Moscow under the tsar.

          And at the same time, do you still have the nickname Ulan 1812?
          But under the tsar, Kyiv was not surrendered, and no one reached St. Petersburg. These comparisons are stupid and harmful to the country. Either way, this is our story. It is foolish to oppose one another.
  5. +18
    30 June 2023 05: 23
    Not a new army of front-line professionals is very good, but when will new commanders be brought in? And then the saying about lions and rams comes to mind again.
  6. +5
    30 June 2023 05: 35
    Fully agree with the author. The question is different. How to create the reserve we need in terms of quantity and quality? You can't do without a draft army. And here you need the laws that existed in the old days. To preserve the place of work and place of residence. During the years of the Second World War, being on the front line was within one or two weeks. Therefore, it was necessary to change the units that were battered in battles. But the quartermaster services should work clearly here.
    1. +15
      30 June 2023 09: 15
      Is the country a "single military camp"? Is this exactly what we have come to as a result of the so-called "development" and what the entire population of the country wants? I remember back in the 80s I watched an anti-war cartoon from life in a country that is at war "with the whole world" and which - "a single, military camp" - there is a boy who knows nothing else but war and is deprived of any information other than "patriotic" propaganda , writes an essay at school about who he wants to become in the future and he writes that he wants to become an artilleryman at the biggest cannon and accurately send a projectile right to the enemy headquarters and everyone will be proud of him and the beloved Supreme Ruler, surrounded by the Highest Approximate, personally will reward him and everyone will envy him and even give him an increased, more high-calorie ration ... "What is the future? winked
  7. +11
    30 June 2023 05: 42
    Excuse me, of course, I'm a backward person, but the application of the Minister of Defense for a new army of five regiments is surprising.
    Maybe the Minister of Defense made a reservation about the army? Maybe he was talking about the division?
    Yes, there is a book about reserves. Permanent mobilization and its lessons (I don’t remember the author). Everything is beautifully written there about the formation of reserves, and the main thing is not to think, read and remember.
    You know again the feeling that there is not enough personnel.
    Yes, and about drones, they were probably predicted or foreseen for more than 100 years in the instruction on sapper work when equipping the trenches of a rifle company with visors to protect against shrapnel. In short, books are worth reading.
    1. +6
      30 June 2023 06: 12
      The 20th army exists, five regiments are additionally formed in it.
      1. +10
        30 June 2023 06: 30
        Well, it’s probably worth writing that 20 new regiments are being formed in the 5th army.
    2. +2
      30 June 2023 17: 02
      Excuse me, of course, I'm a backward person, but the application of the Minister of Defense for a new army of five regiments is surprising.

      How did you get (small letter)....
      Well read it already. source.
      An army, a corps and five regiments are being formed. THROUGH A COMMA. Is it clear now?
      Well, if you are wondering why you don’t read the entire text in the original source, there are numbers and weapons and where these 5 regiments will go.
      And if you're not interested, why the heck do you write comments.
    3. 0
      1 July 2023 18: 50
      . the main thing is not to think, read and


      Apparently, not only to think, they do not know how to read. Once.
  8. Aag
    +26
    30 June 2023 05: 55
    "... To date, according to Shoigu, 60% of this reserve for equipment and weapons has been formed ...".
    Something is alarming about the percentage estimates of this comrade in relation to weapons and equipment.
    1. +7
      30 June 2023 06: 08
      Quote: AAG
      Something is alarming about the percentage estimates of this comrade in relation to weapons and equipment.

      "There is a lot of screeching, little wool." God forbid that they really manage over the summer.
    2. +11
      30 June 2023 07: 55
      Quote: AAG
      "... To date, according to Shoigu, 60% of this reserve for equipment and weapons has been formed ...".
      Something is alarming about the percentage estimates of this comrade in relation to weapons and equipment.

      Any statements by this "comrade" are very alarming ... He is also the designer of new cities with a million people in Siberia ... an oak carving master .. without a fight, Russia lost four select, combat-ready, full-blooded divisions motivated for the Victory .... About 45 thousand magnificent fighters for the Russian people ... Once and there .... an army corps ..... Rostov operation..........
    3. +5
      30 June 2023 17: 05
      Something is alarming about the percentage estimates of this comrade in relation to weapons and equipment.

      By the way, me too, in conjunction with the timing ....
    4. 0
      1 July 2023 18: 53
      . Something worries about percentages


      Well, so: "one and a half digger." What's incomprehensible?
      I love Soviet cartoons. Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
  9. +6
    30 June 2023 06: 00
    Those. no army, corps and five regiments?
    1. +17
      30 June 2023 06: 32
      So the main thing is to crow louder about the new army, and create new general positions, giving stripes to those of your people who are in line behind them, allocate a budget for formation. That, in fact, is all. The money will be allocated and cut, pants with stripes will be sewn. Well, what else do you need?
    2. AAK
      +5
      30 June 2023 08: 12
      Even if this army, corps and 5 regiments will be, then this is only an equivalent, approximately 1 to 1, replenishment of our losses, and no more
      1. 0
        1 July 2023 17: 20
        about 1 to 1, making up for our losses, and no more

        200 K don't tell me
  10. +30
    30 June 2023 06: 13
    There is no doubt that the task of forming a new army will be accomplished. As well as the fact that not a rear, but a combat army will be created, the core of which will be front-line soldiers. For many officers, this will be another promotion.

    Oh, don't tell me my slippers - they tickle me ... The article can be safely attributed to the genre of utopia, or a fairy tale - as you like. The author did not take into account the ode to the smallest detail - the mentality. If the author believes that they become generals in order to lead armies into battle, then he is deeply mistaken. No, of course there are such generals - even the Bible says that there is no city in the world in which there is not at least one righteous person - but these are such rare exceptions that they will not make the weather. They become generals for the sake of power, money, cars, apartments, etc. It's like with officials - Russian officials do not perceive the power given to them as hard and responsible work, they perceive it EXCLUSIVELY as a means and instrument of personal enrichment. What do you think - will the general, living a quiet and well-fed life, sticking to the budget, admit that SMART, and even BOLD, ones start up in the units entrusted to him. Yes, he will lay down his bones to prevent this from happening. By the way, would you know HOW the generals hate drone operators - these bespectacled men who don’t even go into their pocket for a word, and demand some kind of wicks-spills and REPLACE THEM WITH NO ONE - they tried, it didn’t work out. So the SVO will pass, the smelly substances will boil and everything will return to normal - new Serdyukovs will appear with their mistresses, new Shoigu will come with biathlons, economists will reduce the army - no one is attacking us, and it will be quiet and smooth, but when a new war comes, so we are no strangers to buying helmets for soldiers.
  11. +21
    30 June 2023 06: 24
    Members of the NWO should become the core of new parts

    Idiocy is eternal. Remember, the SVO was already underway, but these either toiled with tank biathlon, or conducted exercises. After conducting the exercises, they did not learn anything at the NWO.
    As for the new regiments, a certain Shoigu already planned a hundred cities in Siberia.
    1. +25
      30 June 2023 06: 37
      Remember, the SVO was already underway, but these either toiled with tank biathlon, or conducted exercises. After conducting the exercises, they did not learn anything at the NWO.

      I mean, remember? In the second year of the NWO, absolutely nothing has changed - the Naval Salon in Kronstadt under the supervision of Ksenia Shoigu has just ended. True, the last day was crumpled, but it was Prigozhin's fault - he began to rebel at the wrong time. Now the preparations for the Main Naval Parade are in full swing. Is it up to the NWO command?
      1. +9
        30 June 2023 08: 28
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Now the preparations for the Main Naval Parade are in full swing.

        fellow
        So a very respected gentleman said that they have not started anything yet ...
        1. +4
          30 June 2023 14: 39
          And he added to himself: "and we're not going to."
      2. +2
        30 June 2023 17: 25
        All life ahead - hope and wait.
        ...
        In short, no.
  12. +13
    30 June 2023 06: 25
    To date, according to Shoigu, 60% of this reserve for equipment and weapons has been formed.
    The main thing is that this figure should not be like the "percentage of modern equipment in the troops", which he spoke about earlier
    1. +12
      30 June 2023 06: 39
      Well, the T-54 and BMP-1 have not yet ended in warehouses. Well, if some do not start and you have to aim, looking through the barrel, then they are still there. According to reporting.
  13. +18
    30 June 2023 06: 40
    Unfortunately, the author has taken the path of supporting the virtual reality that Shoigu and Co. create. Their personal and property interests can be understood. There is no author. Of course, no one requires him to tell a story about how things are in reality, this can make the author feel bad, but it’s also not worth it to support a false reality.
    In fact, let's say very mildly, we have significant problems with the complete set of already operating units, both with equipment and personnel. Problems both nominally, simply with the number of people and equipment, and in reality with "dead souls" nominally listed, but in reality, do not exist at the front.
    Well, of course, you can create a new number of headquarters with a small number of people by repeating the epic with the 3rd Army Corps, which was promoted all last summer as an important component of our success, but the benefit from this will not even be zero, but negative.
    1. +12
      30 June 2023 08: 44
      Quote: Belisarius
      Unfortunately, the author has taken the path of supporting the virtual reality created by Mr. Shoigu and Dr.

      As long as the stories that we "will have", "is being formed" continue, there is no hope for good. Hope will appear when it becomes "is", "formed", and this will correspond to reality. And it's better if you don't have to talk about such things at all, people just need to be sure that everything necessary is done as it should. But this is not for the current situation and power. Chatter trying to convince of their concern for the people, unbearable incessant work for the good of the country.
      1. +5
        30 June 2023 17: 28
        + set.
        100 years ago, the majority of the population and the elite (including professors - botanists, zoologists) were aware of the lag = "run in 10 years, otherwise they will crush."
        Now this is not.
  14. +15
    30 June 2023 06: 42
    What problems will be solved after the formation of a new army

    I don’t know which ones have been decided, but which ones have been created ... They just passed a law on the recruitment of convicts under the contract in the part of the RF Armed Forces. If there is a significant percentage of them there (not even a majority, but a noticeable minority), then this army will live according to prison laws, and pose a threat more to the citizens of their country than to the enemy.
    1. +9
      30 June 2023 09: 37
      So I have a question, how will the army, living according to the charter, manage the convicts, living according to the rules?
      Prisoners at the LBS "have revolvers themselves."
      1. +10
        30 June 2023 14: 45
        Urcams will be reprimanded and put on their outfits out of turn. In general, a couple of such inmates with guarantees will decompose an entire unit.
  15. +12
    30 June 2023 06: 56
    "who were educated in military universities of the Russian Federation."
    And where can you get them? After Serdyukov's optimization, our Mchsovets did nothing to revive the officer corps. Jackets from civilian universities do not count .....
    1. +9
      30 June 2023 09: 22
      And you type in the search when more military schools closed .... You will be extremely surprised
  16. +4
    30 June 2023 06: 57
    . at the same time, reports are somehow imperceptibly passing that some kind of operation in the NWO zone completely copies an operation developed during the capture by the Germans or the liberation of the Red Army of Soviet Ukraine during the Great Patriotic War.

    For example?
  17. +7
    30 June 2023 07: 07
    How many people were under the arms of Stalin in 1944 as part of only the Ukrainian Fronts from 1 to 4, when Ukraine was liberated from those Nazis? How many tanks, aviation, artillery? And in the rear of the NKVD troops to clean up the area from the unfinished Bandera and other similar dirt? But in the north they interacted with the Belarusian fronts.
    What is one army compared to four fronts? A drop in the sea.
    The skakuas are in general mobilization. In order to attack them, one must have three times as many forces and means - this is a common truth, known even to non-professionals. And the available forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can only hold the front, and even then in some places they had to move away. Well, how to achieve demilitarization and denazification while sitting on the defensive?
    1. Qas
      +6
      30 June 2023 10: 46
      They forgot to add that our chief constantly mumbles towards the "partners": negotiations, negotiations, negotiations ...
    2. 0
      1 July 2023 01: 22
      The author does not answer
      how to achieve demilitarization and denazification while sitting on the defensive
      , you're right !
  18. +13
    30 June 2023 08: 26
    author zhzhot, of course! There is no need to drag our tragic past by the ears, put the Great Patriotic War on the same level, and you don’t need to, here you are not here, as they say.
    Our grandfathers suffered losses, learned to fight on the move, retreated a lot and bitterly, endured hunger, cold, deprivation, this is a fact. BUT! They were deeply motivated by the fact that there was WAR on their land, without any C and O. And that behind their backs the whole country was also straining, not getting enough sleep, malnourished and working for the front and victory. And what motivates our soldiers, except for contracts with the N-th amount? What do they see behind their backs? Chic, shine and true-la-la (
    The contract army is the same mercenaries, a labor collective with a poorly selected composition, in contrast to the same "Wagner", where even professionals are sieved through a fine sieve, not about "seasonal workers" now. War, as it should be under capitalism, is reduced to hard, dirty and dangerous work for remuneration, without lofty matters. No, for "work collectives" there are motivational speeches, bonuses, social packages, all under the Labor Code. See how advertising for recruiting into the army differs from recruiting for the same apple picking? A little more pathos, and that's it.
    And work in our country is not held in high esteem, as we have been taught for 25 years...
    And thank God that we still have many men who know what duty, honor, responsibility and conscientiousness are. I won't even mention patriotism ...
  19. +6
    30 June 2023 09: 13
    Until the approach itself changes, and this is a strategy for conducting hostilities on the entire front, we will remain with illusions. Alas, no conclusions have been drawn.
  20. +3
    30 June 2023 09: 16
    It is clear that the army, corps and even as many as 5! regiments are completed from the presence of uniforms, weapons. Obviously not enough when compared with the number of dill and the large mobilization resource of dill. That is, we can see a shortage of both equipment and officers. This is the result of the "peace-loving" policy of our guarantors: EBN, GDP and DAM. These leaders and their ministers of defense disbanded 25, 12, 29 military schools, respectively, and also closed military departments in civilian universities (data from the Internet). It turns out, whatever one may say, not to form the required number of armies. It is also bad that our units in the war suffer losses and there is no one to fill the officer corps.
    There is another erroneous decision of our cunning guarantor - the service life is set at 1 year. And this is clearly not enough - at least it should be 2 years, or even 3! The quality of education for conscripts is deteriorating, and technology is becoming more complex.
    And it is possible to make up for the shortage of troops at the expense of the Russian Guard (350 thousand people), the Ministry of Internal Affairs (920 thousand people), the Ministry of Emergency Situations (290 thousand people). These data are for 2019. Of these, by sending only one third to the front, it is possible to increase the army by 500 thousand people. And these are young healthy guys! The rest will be enough to spy on the population, fight the bandits ...
    And how many officials, deputies of different levels (without the State Duma, the Federation Council and their apparatuses) - 2 million 900 thousand people. Data for 2019 - I think this number could only grow.
    Of these 2,9 million - 300 thousand people. (only a tenth! - Only young strong healthy) - to the front.
    That is, the army can be replenished, without harm to production, by about 800 thousand people. It's just a matter of uniforms and weapons.
    But, judging by the voiced desires of Shoigi and others, and evaluating their Wishlist, it seems that this guard plans to trample on dill for a few more years.
    1. +8
      30 June 2023 09: 30
      More doesn't mean better.
      You can drive a bulldozer for 1 year, you can 2-3. If you don’t teach, don’t practice, go in formation and take revenge, the preparation will not improve.
      Lack of officers?
      In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, sergeants perform the functions of our lieutenants and captains. And there is no shortage of officers in the Wagners: there is a simple hierarchy: an employee and a detachment commander ... and that's it.
      In another place, we need to change if we want to have a combat-ready, and not a parade army
      1. +2
        30 June 2023 19: 04
        Quote: Cympak
        In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, sergeants perform the functions of our lieutenants and captains.

        So this is the Western system: professional sergeants and two parallel structures: officers - command, sergeants - do everything so that the officers have trained and equipped personnel with everything necessary.
        We have a sergeant - this is a "sergeant". So you have to put officers in their place.
    2. +4
      30 June 2023 16: 15
      Quote: Tikhonov_Alexander
      That is, we can see a shortage of both equipment and officers. This is the result of the "peace-loving" policy of our guarantors: EBN, GDP and DAM.

      Pfff ... we had a shortage of officers even in those days when there were 300 of them for the millionth Armed Forces (and plus another 000 lieutenants graduated annually). In those days, secluded, now almost epic ©, in the court division, 90% of the officer "field" positions from the battalion and below could be occupied by two vipers and VRID sergeants. But the headquarters were fully staffed.
      And the furniture maker was rinsed precisely for the fact that he began to throw officers from escheated headquarters positions in the field - which caused a sickly seething among the staff, who were suddenly thrown out into the field. Yes, and they gave living people into submission. smile
    3. -1
      30 June 2023 17: 36
      You can not grasp the immensity.
      Who will command 1 million? Right now, just right. Efficiency 100%.
      And then the idlers in the rear during the reorganization still feed ...
  21. +5
    30 June 2023 09: 56
    Actually, five regiments, for the liberation of all Ukraine. It will be small. If the author already applied the Soviet analogy, then how many fronts did it take during the Great Patriotic War to liberate Ukraine? Three? And how many armies were assigned to each front? In total, offhand, 10 armies for three fronts? But it is necessary to attack, oh, it is necessary, until November 2024, a lot needs to be done.
    1. 0
      1 July 2023 01: 19
      What will happen in November 2024? US elections? So whoever is chosen, he will not be a friend of Russia. And there will be enough people until November next year. The Wagners took the city of A for 9 months (or B, it doesn’t matter)
  22. +9
    30 June 2023 10: 34
    We write and talk a lot about how we lack junior officers.

    But the senior officers are genius commanders! Are they intensively reformatting the army? Especially considering their decisions today at the Antonovsky Bridge ...
    1. +3
      30 June 2023 15: 05
      Can you be a little more specific - what are the solutions? And then in the semi-official media - every day this bridgehead is completely destroyed ... and the next day - they are destroyed again. Encore, you have to think. Reading such messages, you somehow begin to be afraid - will you not see in tomorrow's report a brave statement that our troops successfully repulsed the assault on Perekop, destroying 100500 enemy soldiers (in newspeak - militants) and burned more "Leopards" than they were released for all years of production.
  23. +4
    30 June 2023 11: 28
    Remembering the experience of the Second World War, do not forget to recall the experience of the country in building the economy. Experience in the social structure of the state. And that turns out to be interesting. Here we see and call for experience, but here we pretend that nothing happened ...
    Again, recalling the experience of the Second World War, something does not come to mind "gestures of good will" and the export of natural resources to countries that conduct databases with the USSR.
  24. +2
    30 June 2023 13: 21
    "Promotion" sometimes becomes an end in itself in law enforcement agencies, promotion not at the expense of personal qualities, knowledge and skills, but at the expense of the necessary connections, corruption and nepotism. I am in favor of only those commanders and officers who take an active part in hostilities and have a positive experience in training recruits, who can quickly make competent decisions, and not stupidly follow orders, like commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who are in meat assaults, move up in the service. hundreds of fighters are put on the battlefield every day. Another thought that has not left me for a long time is why all this career fuss is in the law enforcement agencies? Why is it impossible for a competent person who performs his duties well to remain in his place until retirement, without moving anywhere? Let there be good bonuses for seniority and experience, which will not depend on the position and the size of the stars on shoulder straps. In war, I can still understand such progress. There are constant losses of personnel, including officers, and it is necessary to replace those who have left. But, in civilian life, all this rat fuss for titles and positions is simply depressing.
  25. +8
    30 June 2023 14: 53
    What problems will be solved after the formation of a new army

    None! Just a reserve

    1. Communication.
    2. Intelligence, including obsolete intelligence tools and the very approaches to organizing intelligence activities. Lack of satellite vision, AWACS aircraft.
    3. Lack of UAVs of all types, but especially small, company-tactical types.
    4. Shortage of high-precision projectiles for artillery.
    5. Weak work against enemy air defense, the inability to use control over the sky.
    6. Obsolete fleet, problems of organizing a water blockade.
    7. Imperfection of the supply system for troops, military expenses: first-aid kits, helmets, unloading.
    8. The problem of communication horizontally and vertically, the lack of middle-level commanders.
    9. The problem of communication between the military branches (a bunch of goal-setting - art; counter-battery combat).
    10. Organizational problems of mobilization.

    It is also worth considering that before the start of the SVO, we were cheerfully reported. In the ranks of the Armed Forces there are 70-80-90% of modern weapons. We are ready to repel any aggression. In fact, we have just begun to reform. And we have not made a conclusion at all , from the conflict in Karabakh
    1. +5
      30 June 2023 15: 19
      I agree with most, except for this:
      In fact, we have only just begun to reform

      No one was going to reform anything and is not going to. Everyone was and is engaged in window dressing and sawing budgets.
  26. +3
    30 June 2023 16: 50
    Generally speaking, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a rear, and a very powerful one. Another thing is that he does not obey the leadership of the country. This is the military industry of the NATO countries. However, they are united at the moment by common goals. The bad news for us in these circumstances is that we cannot influence this rear by military means in the direction of its destruction. But at least directly to the Ukrainian rear, in particular, to transport and transport infrastructure, we could influence much more actively. In order to neutralize the rear, which is located in the NATO countries.
  27. +2
    30 June 2023 17: 49
    Everything seems to be correct, but there is no answer to the main question - WHY did the Ministry of Defense not attend to the formation of reserves in a timely manner?
    Why, having got involved in hostilities, did the army find itself without reserves?
    Why didn’t anyone answer for this, as is customary in our country?
    What is it such a big secret that an army without reserves is doomed to defeat?
    Don't they teach guys with stripes this in academies?
    Already in April-May 2022, it became clear that the available forces were not enough to solve the assigned tasks, and even here at the VO, many people talked about this.
    And what is the answer? There will be no mobilization.
    And when it completely shut down, I had to plug the holes at the front with Wagner.
    The only combat-ready force at that moment, capable of immediately joining the battle.
    And Wagner completed the task. He not only liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, but also gave the Defense Ministry time and opportunity to form and train reserves.
    And if the Ministry of Defense had prepared reserves in time, then perhaps Wagner could have been dispensed with. And there would be no rebellion.
    This is what the incompetence and slovenliness of some leads to.
    1. 0
      1 July 2023 21: 41
      this is not taught to future builders, even members of various parties
  28. +1
    30 June 2023 17: 53
    well, if the Rogozins are not put in command, but the party apparatus is removed in the Ministry of Defense,
  29. fiv
    -7
    30 June 2023 18: 27
    I am not a military man and do not see the situation from the inside. However, I remember well that Shoigu literally created the Ministry of Emergency Situations and under him it was the most effective ministry. I think he (Sh) has not lost his effectiveness even now. He does not have a military education, but the National Guard needs it more. And he is a "jacket" in the understanding of the current military, although the military talents of some of them even among colleagues are highly doubtful. Crimea, Syria, Sev. The Caucasus is also Shoigu. I think that both Zhukov and Shaposhnikov did not always shine. Let's be patient and time will put everyone in their place. Now shoot!
    1. 0
      5 July 2023 12: 01
      is this a joke?? it was only after Serdyukov that equipment came down on this activist from somewhere, the military-industrial complex began to work, etc. how it does not apply to Serdyukov, but Shoigu came to everything ready, as always. and most importantly - where money is allocated in unlimited quantities
  30. +3
    30 June 2023 18: 46
    Quote: Civil
    1. First you need to achieve all the goals of the NWO and complete victoriously.
    Members of the NWO should become the core of new parts

    2. Most are demobilized - because fighting is not an attractive pastime.
    3. Any experience in our army is reset to zero with the advent of a new commander. See the First Chechen, when the experience of the Afghan was completely forgotten after 5 (!) Years.
    4. "We didn't send you there" - nobody canceled this principle of bureaucrats.

    In general, this causes insane surprise, but for some reason the experience of the previous war is completely forgotten in Russia. The clearest example is the Finnish war, in which aviation learned how to mass combat operations when 50 bombers flew to hit a target at the same time. After conducting reconnaissance and so on. And how the Great Patriotic War began, absolutely everything was forgotten, and again in small groups during the day, or even single planes.
    Although when they again switched to pipe groups of 50-70 aircraft, what happened in the forty-third on the Kursk Bulge, the Germans could not do anything with such tactics despite all their skill.
    And yours is generally .. well, how could you not start mobilization in March last year, when it became clear that there were simply not enough available forces?
  31. +6
    30 June 2023 20: 06
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    Everything seems to be correct, but there is no answer to the main question - WHY did the Ministry of Defense not attend to the formation of reserves in a timely manner?
    Why, having got involved in hostilities, did the army find itself without reserves?
    Why didn’t anyone answer for this, as is customary in our country?
    What is it such a big secret that an army without reserves is doomed to defeat?
    Don't they teach guys with stripes this in academies?
    Already in April-May 2022, it became clear that the available forces were not enough to solve the assigned tasks, and even here at the VO, many people talked about this.
    And what is the answer? There will be no mobilization.
    And when it completely shut down, I had to plug the holes at the front with Wagner.
    The only combat-ready force at that moment, capable of immediately joining the battle.
    And Wagner completed the task. He not only liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, but also gave the Defense Ministry time and opportunity to form and train reserves.
    And if the Ministry of Defense had prepared reserves in time, then perhaps Wagner could have been dispensed with. And there would be no rebellion.
    This is what the incompetence and slovenliness of some leads to.

    But because the size of the army was determined and is being determined by politicians and financiers. Kudrin and Siluanov know how many soldiers and officers, military schools and military spacecraft we need. There is no war - there is nothing to spend money, the war will come - we will buy it.
    This is the logic supported by all our three presidents of the Russian Federation in full.
    But "Yeltsin Center" will not be removed from allowance, no, and Serdyukov must work somewhere.
    The main thing is to wait for investors, and wait for the Chinese miracle from business.
  32. +2
    30 June 2023 20: 40
    “There is another way to form new parts. This is the withdrawal to the rear of the units and subunits, the most battered in previous battles, and their reorganization and resupplying as part of new formations.

    Understood nothing. Does the author propose to transfer the shabby parts to the new army? And in exchange for these parts, who will you give? From that army from where you take the battered parts. An apple was transferred from one basket to another basket. The number of apples still has not changed.
    Or am I misunderstood something?
  33. +1
    1 July 2023 01: 13
    Where such an army can attack is not important.
    Well said! A week ago, one hard-hitting army advanced on. . . north, let's say. Kilometers 700 so advanced. War is garbage, the main thing is maneuvers!
  34. +2
    1 July 2023 04: 02
    The reserve is a reserve, but if the army in the rear does not have a powerful economy that fills these reserves with everything that is needed, then the result will be appropriate
  35. +3
    1 July 2023 08: 53
    This is so, by the way, sad ...

    The article forced me to return to my previous thoughts and indirectly confirmed them...
    In the 90s we were thrown into capitalism and told "Swim!". Many people did not come up - eternal memory of those who died untimely! May they be rewarded with the infinite kindness and patience of the Lord! ..

    And so the NWO began in the form of a civil war - without proper understanding of how and with what to fight in the current conditions and ... Eternal memory to the fallen! They are on their way to our military glory, heroes and great generals are waiting for them there, and we...
    The army is just learning to fight, it has become clear how and what to do - we, ordinary citizens, understand. And the question is ripening how to force the comprador government, business and the army elite to reach the required level of understanding ...

    You know, I still don't use the self-service system at Pyaterochka - I'm scrapped when there is still at least one cashier. I can pay for a phone using a machine, but not for goods, I'm afraid of making a mistake, I'm afraid of some kind of deception, I'm afraid of losing money. And every time, looking at this electronic board in the store, with a smirk I imagine the long face of Minister Shoigu, who found in the text of the report the slang "gaslight" accidentally slipped through the negligence of a young employee. It's hard to keep up with the ever-changing era when you're stuck in a bygone era. It's scary to lose money.
  36. 0
    1 July 2023 16: 58
    The formation of a reserve army, so far, only indicates that the General Staff of the Russian Federation is beginning to build its plans according to the canons of military science that brought victory in the Second World War, hence the conclusion: either the doctrine of modern conflict, where quality and technology ensure victory over numbers, turned out to be not working, or the Russian army turned out to be not modern and therefore we return to the Soviet doctrines of warfare. soldier
  37. +1
    1 July 2023 18: 24
    The new army will not solve any problems. I will not cover political issues, I will only touch on the military. With the money spent on one month of fighting, only PMC Wagner could give the army a real weapon. But ... Shoigu is busy with intrigues, not with providing troops. Moreover, R&D of his understanding is absolutely lacking.
    .
    And ukrov, this weapon, seems to be starting to appear. Soon they, if I am not mistaken in the signs of its use, will absolutely dominate the battlefield.
  38. +1
    1 July 2023 18: 33
    A new army with the current commanders and supplies will not solve anything. Judging by indirect signs, the Ukrainians have a new weapon that will ensure their complete dominance on the battlefield. And Shoigu is busy with some intrigues and does not itch.
  39. +1
    1 July 2023 21: 57
    The most combat-ready unit of Russia is the Wagnerites. A super army must be built on their basis. But alas ... politicians ..
  40. 0
    2 July 2023 12: 17
    Quote: Stinging_Nettle
    Soldiers who have returned home may be fine people, but marrying them is very dangerous and no military pension is worth the risk. Such psychological trauma is a serious matter, and these people will rush not at Shoigu, like the Wagnerites, but at those who are most defenseless - their own families.



    I'm looking at you - you've been downvoted a lot. For what? for the truth?

    there is such a diagnosis "combat mental trauma". I have known the author of the book of the same name since childhood. I myself once made such a diagnosis to my stepson (now former) after the 2nd Chechen. He wrote to our draft board, hinting that it would not be a sin to go to a sanatorium. They said that if you don't like his behavior, call the police. As a result, now he is over 40, there is no family and even just a more or less permanent woman and never was.
    Once I came to St. Petersburg, where I studied for 6 years. One of my old acquaintances (just squeezing) :) told how she married an Afghan and suffered for several years. Then she married an ordinary, normal family of 2 children (then it was, I don’t know now).

    The state uses them for its own purposes, but it frankly does not give a shit about their fate and health after use. The prescribed benefits are clearly not enough to compensate for the risk and consequences, but even what is supposed to be impossible for the majority to receive.
  41. 0
    2 July 2023 12: 19
    Quote: also a doctor
    A new army with the current commanders and supplies will not solve anything. Judging by indirect signs, the Ukrainians have a new weapon that will ensure their complete dominance on the battlefield. And Shoigu is busy with some intrigues and does not itch.

    Please voice the name of the next prodigy and what it refers to, at least in general terms.
    1. 0
      2 July 2023 20: 26
      I did not write about this at the beginning of the CBO and I will not write about it now. Not a place. I think if our industry is given money, then there will be people who see the same thing as me. However, so far our bosses have not shown the ability to assess the prospects of projectors. As, however, and DAPRA. This is bad. Although it can be solved, Shoigu should only outline guidelines for work and not throw it, as he threw Wagner.
      But the worst thing for me, I see signs of one of the wunderwaffes of the future use of ukrami.
  42. +1
    3 July 2023 06: 26
    There is a draft for the army, it is necessary to increase the term of service. The territory of Russia must be guarded by conscripts. Mobilization to carry out those who served in the Airborne Forces, special forces, marines is their job.
    If conscripts are trained, every morning jogging, shooting, physical training. Then they will join such an army if they see you have come pumped up, trained in hand-to-hand combat.
    Such soldiers go to the level of special forces. Preparations must begin with serious troops. Starting with a physical jog shooting, let them train to live in field camps.
    Those who were called up for mobilization there were often alcoholics
    All who serve in law enforcement agencies should also be sent on business trips for six months.
    Just for the army, you need to use young people from 25-35, after 35 people often have no health anymore
  43. 0
    3 July 2023 09: 46
    Quote: 72jora72
    Of course, they just lost the best Army in the world.

    she was lost in the mid-50s under Minister Zhukov, who was a very good commander and completely helpless chief of the general staff and minister.
  44. 0
    3 July 2023 14: 20
    Stop, stop, stop, but after all, “freeing ourselves from the legacy of the despicable scoop,” first framed formations were defeated and destroyed, and then the bases for storing equipment and weapons! Those reserves!
    To begin with, it is necessary to name by name those who arrogantly squealed through their lips that "a compact, professional, well-equipped army" does not need any cropped formations and no deployment. That this peacetime army will quickly jump in, defeat everyone, and then gallop off to win to the other end of the country. Show the people the face of these figures, so that people know who to spit in the grunt.
    And by and large, to judge them for treason. For broadcasting from all irons that apart from the notorious "international terrorism" we have no enemies. For anathematizing the very idea that a military clash with a massive enemy army could occur. For squealing, they say, how dare they even admit that a conflict with the notorious "civilized" countries could occur.
    Here's where to start.
  45. 0
    4 July 2023 06: 30
    Our Ministry of Defense with its girls-generals should be sent to the trenches, let them smell the gunpowder, but gain experience. And even the machine in his hands and did not hold.
  46. 0
    4 July 2023 17: 53
    The new army closes this issue. ... it will be an offensive army.

    Where does it come from... :)
    From dampness?
    There are no officers or sergeants for this - there is simply nowhere to get them from ...
    Only there are plenty of generals, they are there, parquet, already in the region of 7000 - two brigades can be formed from them ...
    There is no way to even recruit “mobiles” - there is no provision (underpants, socks, weapons) ...
    "according to Shoigu, 60% of this reserve for equipment and weapons has been formed" - this frame already reported on 70% of unparalleled weapons in the army, in the fall of 2021, just shortly before the day "H" ...

  47. 0
    6 July 2023 11: 12
    And how will the participants of the NWO become the core while at the front? Or is the victory set for tomorrow? Or a deal? And what surprises does the army close if Kherson, now the territory of the Russian Federation, is under the Armed Forces of Ukraine and there is no longer even talk of liberation? Maybe she closes the surprises in Shebekino? You have to ask the locals. Successfully holding the defense for a month is not yet a reason for bravura speeches. Nothing is finished yet and can turn in any direction. And the paper armies of Comrade. Shoigu will be created, there is no doubt. And the budget for them will be mastered.
    1. 0
      8 July 2023 14: 02
      And most importantly: none of the goals of the NWO has been achieved, and will not be achieved in the short term.