Small arms developed over 100 years ago, but capable of being used effectively in combat today

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Small arms developed over 100 years ago, but capable of being used effectively in combat today

Small weapon is one of the most conservative types of weapons. In fact, since the development of the unitary cartridge, there have been no revolutionary breakthroughs in this area. Moreover, some models of small arms, developed and put into production more than a hundred years ago, can still be effectively used (and are being used) in modern combined arms combat and special operations.

In this material, we will consider some samples of such small arms, but with one prerequisite - ammunition for it must be mass-produced to this day and used in the armed forces or other law enforcement agencies (sporting and hunting ammunition are not considered).



Pistol


Of course, pistols are used very limitedly in combat, although some countries spend a lot of money on re-equipping the army with modern pistols, for example, the US armed forces have already done this twice, as we previously talked about in the “Army Pistol in the USA” materials: Part 1 и Part 2.

And they initially changed, without exaggeration, the legendary semi-automatic pistol - the Colt M1911 chambered for .45 ACP (11,43x23 mm), developed by John Moses Browning in 1911, as can be easily understood from the name. This pistol was and is still being produced by many gun companies and is a desirable item for collectors and gun enthusiasts.


Colt M1911

The .45 ACP cartridge is mass-produced, used by the police and special units in many countries, it is especially effective when using weapons with a silencer. Yes, and the Colt M1911 itself is also still used by some law enforcement agencies, however, this is more of a tribute to fashion or funding restrictions.


The Glock-21 pistol has almost twice as much ammunition of the same .45 ACP caliber (13 rounds versus 7 for the M1911), but many will still prefer the Colt. Incidentally, both sold in Russia as a sporting weapon

Of course, modern pistols are more convenient, more reliable, and multiply charged, but this superiority is not critical. In the confrontation between two fighters, one of which will be armed with a Colt M1911 pistol, and the second with some modern pistol, the advantage will be in the first place for the one who is better prepared. As an officer's pistol or as a backup weapon, the Colt M1911 is still relevant, and as a weapon of special units, it may well be used, especially in the version with a silencer and cartridges with a heavy subsonic bullet.

Shotgun (Shotgun)


This type of small arms in law enforcement agencies is most often used for special tasks, such as knocking out door locks, although in the United States the pump-action shotgun is still an essential attribute of police cars in some states. If we talk about the wars of the past, then shotguns were quite actively used both in the First and Second World Wars, and during the US invasion of Korea and Vietnam.

From smoothbore guns, I would like to single out two models at once. The first is the 12-gauge Winchester Model 1912 five-shot pump-action shotgun, which is reloaded by a movable forearm. This gun was designed by Winchester Repeating Arms Company engineer Thomas Crosley Johnson in 1912 based on the earlier Winchester Model 1897 (M1897) designed by D. M. Browning.

The second model is the Browning Auto-5 semi-automatic shotgun - a classic “semi-automatic” that uses the recoil energy of the barrel during its long stroke to reload.


Winchester Model 1912 and Browning Auto-5

According to their characteristics, both of these guns are practically not inferior to modern models - an excellent, almost ageless weapon.


The modern Fabarm SDASS pump-action shotgun and the Fabarm SAT 8 Pro Forces semi-automatic shotgun

In our time, a new threat is rapidly gaining momentum - kamikaze unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), which can already be used even to attack individual fighters. In this connection the shotgun can again be in demand on the battlefield, but not for clearing trenches, but for self-defense of ground units from micro-UAV-kamikaze.

Submachine guns


More than 100 years ago, this weapon was just beginning its development, however, one quite relevant example can be distinguished - this is the American Thompson submachine gun chambered for the aforementioned .45 ACP cartridge, invented in 1918 by John Tagliaferro Thompson, which became in the 20s - 30- XNUMXs, the favorite weapon of both police and gangsters. As soon as he was not called - "Thompson", "Tommy", "Tommy Gun", "Destroyer", "Trench Broom", "Chicago Piano" and many other nicknames.

Difficult to manufacture, expensive, but accurate and fast-firing.


Thompson submachine gun

Nowadays, submachine guns are used much less frequently - they have been replaced by machine guns and assault rifles everywhere, however, a number of modern models for the police and special forces are still being produced. When using heavy subsonic bullets, these "machines" work well with a silencer and retain a high stopping power.


Heckler & Koch UMP-45 - chambered in the same .45 ACP cartridge

Machine guns and assault rifles


But this type of weapon did not yet exist in the given criteria, more precisely, they had not yet been produced in large-scale production, although development was carried out actively, it is enough to recall the Russian Fedorov assault rifle.


Automatic Fedorov

It makes no sense to consider magazine rifles with a longitudinally sliding rotary bolt, since in our time they are used as ...

Sniper rifles


And one of the most popular sniper rifles of the Second World War was the Mosin rifle chambered for 7,62x54R. Of course, in the bulk this rifle was produced as an infantry weapon, and the production of the sniper version began only in 1932, however, the sniper modification did not undergo any serious design changes - samples with the best accuracy were selected from the batch, after which an optical sight and changed the bolt handle.


Mosin rifle


Mosin Sniper Rifle

This rifle is still used by some armies of the world in a slightly modified form.


Finnish sniper rifle 7.62 TKIV 85, created by altering the Mosin rifle, is in service with the Finnish Defense Forces

And it is quite consistent with the performance of modern small arms for comparable ammunition.


The M40 US Marines sniper rifle, based on the Remington-700 rifle, chambered for 7,62x51 mm, is still in service with the US Marine Corps in the M40A1 modification

Of course, in our time, sniper rifles have appeared that allow targeted shooting at a range several times greater than the firing range of the Mosin rifle and its modern counterparts, but such firing ranges also require special skills from the shooter - not all of them have them, so sniper rifles chambered for 7,62x54R and 7,51x51 mm cartridges still quite confidently occupy their niche.

Machine guns


You can consider the Lewis machine gun, the design of which was developed by the British Samuel McLean and embodied in metal by the American Colonel of the US Army Isaac Lewis. This machine gun was also produced under the 7,62x54R cartridge and was supplied to the Russian army.


Don't be confused by the huge barrel - this is a casing that provides ejection cooling of the barrel located inside - the same principle is used in the newest Russian machine gun "Pecheneg"

An interesting feature of the Lewis machine gun is the detachable disc magazines for 47 and 97 rounds, which do not contain a supply spring - the process of supplying cartridges is carried out by a lever-type automatic machine gun mechanism.


Lewis machine gun disc magazine


Machine gun "Pecheneg" chambered for 7,62x54R

You can also mention easel machine guns, which now have no direct analogues, but are quite comparable in purpose to light machine guns mounted on the machine.

Of course, we are talking about the legendary Maxim machine gun chambered for 7,62x54R, developed by the British gunsmith of American origin Hiram Stevens Maxim in 1883. This machine gun is still used by the armed forces of different countries in many parts of the world, including Maxim machine guns used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) during the Russian special military operation (SVO).


Machine gun Maxim

And with the help of a small upgrade, this machine gun can get even closer in terms of performance to its modern counterparts.


Upgraded APU machine gun Maxim - water cooling was replaced with air, added stock, optical sight, bipod and box magazine for cartridges, changed muzzle brake

Heavy machine guns


With heavy machine guns it's even easier. Why? Yes, because the Browning M1921 heavy machine gun developed in 1921 chambered for 12,7x99 mm is still in service with the US Army, albeit in a deeply modernized form. However, the main modernization of the Browning M1921 heavy machine gun was made back in 1932, after which the machine gun received the designation M2.


Large-caliber machine guns Browning M1921, Browning M2 during WWII and it is in our time

Conclusions


For the article, a rather rigid framework was initially set - the age of the weapon is more than 100 years old and the ammunition used to this day, moreover, used precisely by law enforcement agencies. If we move away from these restrictions a little to the side, then the number of small arms that can be considered effective to this day increases significantly.

After reading, one might get the impression that the "classic" small arms, developed over a century ago, which have retained their effectiveness to this day, were mostly developed and produced in Western countries, mainly in the United States. What to do, unfortunately, in many ways it is true - Tsarist Russia did not indulge domestic developers and manufacturers, preferring to buy weapons abroad, and then a revolution and civil war followed ...

However, later the Soviet Union quickly made up for lost time, in many ways surpassing its competitors from the United States and European countries, but this is already a completely different story.
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  1. +27
    20 June 2023 03: 22
    It seems that some authors do not know what to write about. As a result, the output is either outright Mitrofanovism, or such a transfusion from empty to empty.
    1. +11
      20 June 2023 06: 20
      Quote: Tucan
      It seems that some authors do not know what to write about. As a result, the output is either outright Mitrofanovism, or such a transfusion from empty to empty.

      The problem is not in the topic of the article, but in the "talent" of the writing fraternity. To be honest, the topic is more or less disclosed only by machine guns. The rest is "sorrow".
      All the good days!
    2. +5
      20 June 2023 08: 04
      "Colt" M1911 chambered for .45 ACP (11,43x23 mm), developed by John Moses Browning in 1911, as it can be easily understood from the name.
      Author: Andrey Mitrofanov

      In the title is the year of adoption.
      The patent application was filed a year earlier, and work on it has been going on since the 1890s

      1. +5
        20 June 2023 15: 24
        Good afternoon, Mikhail. smile
        , and work on it has been going on since the 1890s

        I don’t even have an addition, but just after. Yes
        Colt Model 1900.
        1. +3
          20 June 2023 16: 29
          Kostya, good health. The author has probably never heard of such a gun at all.
          1. +2
            20 June 2023 16: 44
            Hello, Glory! smile
            And who knows what he read, or didn’t read, with the authors now it’s a complete nightmare in general - there is nothing to read. negative
        2. +3
          20 June 2023 16: 42
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Good afternoon,

          hi
          Also after ;)
          Colt M45A1 CQBP for special operations forces and the ILC
          Please note: the store is made in Italy.
          $1,699.00 (MSRP - USA)
          € 2.939,00 (Europe)



          1. +3
            20 June 2023 18: 26
            With the Picatinny rail, it lost the familiar appeal of the original.

            1. +2
              20 June 2023 18: 43
              Quote: Sea Cat
              lost the familiar attraction

              We all lose our charm over the years.
              1. +1
                20 June 2023 19: 29
                We all lose our charm over the years.
                good good good

                Men are still somewhat easier than women. smile
                1. 0
                  21 June 2023 07: 14
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  It's easier for men though.

                  Especially the military.
                  The officer is like cognac.
                  The more years - the more stars wink
            2. +2
              20 June 2023 19: 13
              Italian replica of the "legend", in APC 45 caliber.

              Brutal enough?
              Hi Uncle Kostya!
              1. +3
                20 June 2023 19: 33
                Hello Anton! smile
                It’s quite okay, but outwardly it somehow looks more like a Browning High-Power HP.
                1. +1
                  20 June 2023 21: 31
                  I will offer another Italian version for the ARS 45 caliber.

                  Available in St. Petersburg shooting galleries for 100 rubles per shot.
                  There are also Italian modifications chambered for 9x19, but, you know...
                  1. +2
                    20 June 2023 21: 48
                    On the basis of a successful design, no matter what they came up with.
                    For example, this monster - LAR Grizzly Win Mag weighing - 1,36 kg (with a magazine - 1,5 kg)
                    chambered for .45 Winchester Magnum (among others))))).
                    You’ll wrap your hand around him anyway, and when fired, go ahead, from the recoil it will generally fly away to a crazy hair dryer. A typical perversion, in my opinion.

                    And I, at one time, managed to shoot from the "normal" 19-11. For free, and even staggered after that (All-Russian Research Institute of Forensic Science)))))).
                2. +1
                  20 June 2023 22: 06
                  Doesn't look like it. The geometry is different. It lies differently in the hand. According to my personal impressions, "Brownings" have a very thick lower part of the handle. She, the infection, slows down on the palm, and you do not feel the weapon. Although, maybe I am corrupted by the blade and transfer my perception to the firearm ...
                  1. +1
                    20 June 2023 22: 28
                    According to my personal impressions, "Brownings" have a very thick lower part of the handle

                    Anton smile , so after all, 19-11 is the same Browning, from one dad. Yes
                    1. 0
                      21 June 2023 05: 38
                      One dad has children of different sexes ...
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  2. +7
    20 June 2023 03: 27
    In general, the old weapons are used very limitedly, except for the M2HB, but the old cartridges are still in use. Well, submachine guns do not correspond to the article. For the actions of the police and SPN, the concept of "battle" is not very applicable. And the imposition of obsolete even before the start of the design of the PPK-20 is an exception to the healthy norm.
  3. +14
    20 June 2023 03: 52
    In general, the article does not match the title. No. In addition to listing well-known facts, there is nothing new. No.
  4. +3
    20 June 2023 05: 05
    And where is the famous PPSh, PPS-43, Kalashnikov?
    I prefer PPS, simple, reliable, light, convenient ... a common cartridge for it ... beauty in close combat.
    1. +4
      20 June 2023 05: 52
      PPS is certainly good, but with regard to the cartridge, I doubt both its stopping power and its prevalence in comparison with 9x19.
    2. +10
      20 June 2023 06: 43
      Well, those are not even a hundred years old.
      And so I agree with the commentators, the article is sucked from the finger.
    3. +1
      20 June 2023 08: 26
      "I prefer PPS, simple, reliable, easy,"
      he is heavier than akm, actually
    4. Alf
      +5
      20 June 2023 17: 33
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      And where is the famous PPSh, PPS-43, Kalashnikov?

      In these cases, 100 years have not yet passed ... laughing
  5. -1
    20 June 2023 05: 06
    Thank you for the article! Very interesting.
    Are there any revolvers on this list?
    1. +2
      20 June 2023 20: 52
      Quote from: Baobabus
      Thank you for the article! Very interesting.
      Are there any revolvers on this list?

      The only revolver that may still be in storage in the tasks of Ukraine is a revolver. But his specific cartridge has not been produced for more than half a century. However, at the turn of the century in Russia, it was still preserved in remote post offices, banks and in the warehouses of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. I think the situation in Ukraine is similar.
  6. +9
    20 June 2023 05: 26
    "Horses mixed up in a bunch, people ..." (c) and ... at the same time the "Maxim" machine gun, well, the salad turned out.
    And the author shoved the Three-ruler, obviously out of a sense of "leavened patriotism", because her contemporary Mauser Gewehr 98 (Mauser 98) was much more accurate in combat and better in production.
    And Maxim was thought of "modernizing" long before and regardless, though the optics were smart enough not to install.

    In general, there is nothing to comment on here. request
    1. +3
      20 June 2023 05: 57
      Quote: Sea Cat
      And Maxim was thought of "modernizing" long before and regardless, though the optics were smart enough not to install.

      There were not enough funds, but not the mind ... Because with the mass of Maxim, even the most delicate optics are comfortable on him.
  7. +10
    20 June 2023 06: 03

    This is NOT a MODERNIZED UKRAINIAN ... but a Soviet machine gun MT (Maxima-Tokarev) of 1925 from somewhere in the museum.
    ps This photo has recently been on VO. And they already wrote about her that this is MT. But the author seems to only write for VO, but does not read materials from this site.
  8. +8
    20 June 2023 06: 45
    As soon as he was not called - "Thompson", "Tommy", "Tommy Gun", "Destroyer", "Trench Broom", "Chicago Piano" and many other nicknames.
    Bliiiin!!! And I, naive, have always believed that the Winchester Model 1897 (M1897) is the "trench broom"! My life will never be the same again!
    1. +6
      20 June 2023 07: 02
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      "Chicago Piano"... ...My life will never be the same again!)))

      And if you remember that the “Chicago Piano” is a 28 mm anti-aircraft quad, then it’s completely ... laughing
      1. +5
        20 June 2023 07: 34
        With this, to Bongo! )))
        It's even strange that Sergei passed by this blunder.
        1. +5
          20 June 2023 09: 00
          It's even strange that Sergei passed by this blunder.

          It's just not a hoax.
          Nickname Chicago piano had:
          - Thompson submachine gun
          - 1.1-inch anti-aircraft gun
          - Multiple 2-pdr pom pom anti-aircraft gun
          1. +2
            20 June 2023 09: 04
            - Multiple 2-pdr pom pom anti-aircraft gun
            And this one which side to Chicago? Is he British?
            Hello!
            1. +4
              20 June 2023 13: 41
              And this one which side to Chicago? Is he British?

              He is, of course, British. But the Americans hesitated long enough between the Bofors 40 mm L/60 gun and the QF 2-pounder naval gun. An epic worthy of Linnik's article. On the site, in the field of armaments, there are no authors left besides him - only assholes ... knapsacks - Mitrofanovites.
              1. +4
                20 June 2023 13: 59
                On the site, in the field of armaments, there are no authors left besides him
                And Timokhin?
                1. +5
                  20 June 2023 14: 14
                  And Timokhin?

                  Timokhin is a kind of literate character, but he adjusts his publications to a specific point of view, his own, which he considers the only correct one.
                  And he doesn't do history. He has everything "on the topic of the day" with the promotion of his own great ideas, which do not always fit into objective reality.
              2. +1
                20 June 2023 17: 05
                Vic Nick? "besides him", as I remember: in ARMED, besides Linnik, there was also: Ryabov + VO with the history of weapons, and more ... now I remembered: Romance with Verkhnyaya Pyshma.
                I don't remember anymore. "doctor, I have this" (C)
          2. +3
            20 June 2023 16: 42
            Comrades, I call, it seems our Vic. Nick is back. Comments in his style.
            I, several times, paid attention to interesting comments, but add up: 1 + 1, only now it has reached
            PS, Vic Nick, welcome back!
    2. Alf
      +2
      20 June 2023 17: 39
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      "Chicago Piano"

      And the Chicago piano was called the 28-mm anti-aircraft guns in the US Navy.
  9. +4
    20 June 2023 09: 09
    Perhaps there is nothing new here. More like a collection of information. Far from complete and not particularly accurate.
    Thanks to the author for the absence of "Anglo-Saxons since the 10th century against Russia", "the collective West has not given the opportunity to Russian engineers since the 19th century", "as you know, all progressive mankind is for the World, while in the countries of decaying capitalism".
  10. +6
    20 June 2023 10: 45
    "... the Maxim machine gun chambered for 7,62x54R, developed by the British gunsmith of American origin Hiram Stevens Maxim in 1883."
    Nobel Prize in the studio!
    Vicki writes: [cartridge] "Appeared in 1890, in 1891 it was adopted as a cartridge for the Mosin three-line rifle." But no! Mitrofanov discovered that Kh.S. Maxim back in 1883...
  11. +3
    20 June 2023 16: 03
    The author obviously forgot the "indestructible" DShK here is a machine, so a machine. Since the Second World War, he has gone through almost all the wars. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Africa, and Ukraine. and always showed the best side.
    1. +2
      20 June 2023 17: 28
      You can also recall the Soviet TT (and its modifications), which was produced and supplied around the world throughout the 20th century and is now in service in a number of countries (in China, North Korea, Vietnam, Belarus, etc.). The TT weighs almost one and a half times less than the "Colt 1911", but has a slightly larger magazine, and most importantly, a much more solid range (25 m for the "colt" and over - 50 m for the TT (actually, up to - 70 m, because the bullet speed TT is the same as that of the "Mauser"), TT pierces a helmet, log and bulletproof vest, there were modifications with 15 rounds. Until now, this weapon is popular and is sold, including in the USA. In 7 years, the Tokarev pistol will be - 100 years.
    2. Alf
      +2
      20 June 2023 17: 42
      Quote: tank64rus
      The author clearly forgot the "unkillable" DShK

      What is the name of the article? DShK was born in 1932, 100 years have not yet passed. laughing
      The author is right in spirit and letter. Ordnung muss seine.
  12. +2
    20 June 2023 17: 29
    "Thomson" 1) "Accuracy and rapidity." My grandfather in WWII tried it. "ram": from fifty meters, did not break through a pine board. As for accuracy, I don’t remember, it seems to be mediocre.
    Although, for PP, the main thing is the rate of fire
    2) it was already a long time ago: "went into circulation" and I would not remember him.
    The author, forgot: "Parabellum" and cartridges, that he himself is still capable of "biting" dirt.
    1. +3
      20 June 2023 19: 39
      Slav, R.08 - The Germans themselves removed the "Parabellum" from service in 1938, replacing it with the Walter R.38, but it existed in service with the German army right up to the mid-eighties.
      1. 0
        22 June 2023 00: 26
        Although the Parabellum was removed from service, it was produced almost until the end of the war in Europe and was very popular in the army. And they removed it from service due to the high cost and low-tech production. A similar fate befell the SVT.
        And so, "Parabellum" is still produced in the States.
        In general, the article is completely inaccurate. The main cartridge, not the weapon. It's kind of stupid to say:
        You can also mention easel machine guns, which now have no direct analogues, but are quite comparable in purpose to light machine guns mounted on the machine.
        ...
        And with the help of a small upgrade, this machine gun can get even closer in terms of performance to its modern counterparts.
  13. +3
    20 June 2023 18: 04
    A chaotic article ... The fact that an antique weapon was pulled out from somewhere does not speak of its effectiveness in modern conditions. This applies to Maksimov and Maksim-Tokarevs pulled out of long-term storage warehouses in Ukraine. The same situation was in WWII, when Lewis was pulled out of warehouses in the UK and the USSR.