The first went: Russia risks losing four serviceable An-124 Ruslan at once

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The first went: Russia risks losing four serviceable An-124 Ruslan at once
An-124-100 with onboard RA-82078. Will soon pass to the Ukrainians. Source: airwaysmag.com


Canadian shame


On February 27, 2022, an An-124 Ruslan transport vehicle with a large batch of covid tests from China landed at the Canadian airport in Toronto Pearson. The plane was chartered by Canada from the Russian private company Volga-Dnepr. Ruslan with tail number RA-82078 landed just a couple of hours before the Canadian government closed the country's skies to Russian aircraft.



By and large, even then it was clear that it would not be so easy to get back a unique aircraft. It’s good that at least a crew of eight people was sent to Russia.

The requirement to pay for the parking of the giant added to the cynicism of the situation - this dubious pleasure cost the owner of the aircraft a thousand Canadian dollars or 50 thousand rubles per day. In total, the Canadian airport received at least 100 local dollars for the downtime of the Ruslan. Now the company's debt is approaching half a million dollars.

The situation with the stuck An-124 was eventually resolved in the worst possible way. During his visit to Kyiv, Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau announced that the Russian An-124 was arrested, seized and will be handed over to Ukraine in the near future.

The machine is in perfect working order and aviation The standards are quite fresh - the age of 26 years. Once again, a transport aircraft of strategic importance for the state will be handed over to our enemy. Do not forget about the considerable residual value of the car. According to some estimates, up to 800 million rubles.


Source: airwaysmag.com

The Canadian robbery was preceded by many events.

Firstly, the operator and owner of the Volga-Dnepr aircraft since April 2023 under the sanctions of the Canadian government. A purely civilian carrier came under distribution simply for supporting the Russian government. No adequate charges were brought against the company's board, but this was the basis for the seizure of the transport aircraft. More precisely, under the impending confiscation of the aircraft, the Volga-Dnepr group and the Volga-Dnepr airline were brought under sanctions by the Canadians.

Secondly, the Kiev regime has long been sharpening its teeth on this An-124. Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal reported back in April 2023:

“A new package of sanctions against Russia from Canada. In particular, against the Volga-Dnepr company. We are preparing to confiscate the An-124 aircraft and other assets of the aggressor in Canada and transfer them to Ukraine.”

The advantage of Ruslan for Ukraine is its extensive experience in operating and repairing aircraft of this type. D-18T engines were developed and produced at the Zaporozhye Motor Sich - spare parts will be found for sure. There is no need to retrain crews and maintenance personnel - the local company Antonov Airlines operates seven An-124s. Now it will be the eighth.

Naturally, it will not appear in Ukraine - it will transport equipment for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to nearby NATO bases, as it happened more than once or twice with other Antonov aircraft. Ukrainians are also not averse to occupying a vacant market niche after Volga-Dnepr, which is seriously limited in freedom.

But in Ottawa, apparently, they were slow to hand over the transport aircraft that was detained in Toronto.

The third event is Kyiv's scandal regarding small deliveries of Canadian weapons. At one of the arms exhibitions, the chief of the Ministry of Defense, Reznikov, "expressed hope" for some provisions on Ottawa's obligations to Kiev. In the supply of weapons, of course. The greed of the Kyiv regime has no limits.

Kyiv is still being listened to, and Trudeau brought good news there - the Russian An-124 has been confiscated and soon a number with the letters UR will appear on its fuselage.

Looking forward to next?


On one "Ruslan" story with western robbery will not end. The Volga-Dnepr airline has three more An-124s stuck at the Leipzig-Halle airport. Board numbers - RA-82043, RA-82045 and RA-82046.

These are the most valuable aircraft of the sad dozens detained in Germany - among others, there is a Boeing 747 at Frankfurt-Hahn Airport, and a Boeing 737 is stuck in Cologne. The rest are private jets such as Embraer Legacy 600 and Bombardier Global Express. Unpleasant, of course, but Russia will not feel much damage from the loss of business-class aircraft.

"Volga-Dnepr" did not get up after the sanctions and the actual confiscation of four out of ten super-heavy aircraft at once, which are airworthy. Ruslans fly actively in Russia, as well as to countries where Western restrictions do not apply - Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan and the United Arab Emirates.

Flight life, of course, did not stop, but the lack of four sides at once will inevitably affect both the company's revenue and the wear and tear of the Ruslans. There is not much to repair the D-18T engines, which come from Zaporozhye.

An open question is whether Volga-Dnepr pays for the parking of sanctioned aircraft in Germany? A tidy sum could run up in a year and a half.

Worst of all, Canadian theft could set a precedent for the German government. First of all, if Russia does not respond sensitively to Canada for the brazen robbery of a civilian ship and transfer to the enemy. So far, Russia is limited only by threats. For example, Oleg Stepanov, Ambassador to Canada, said about the thieving Trudeau:

“This is completely illegal, this is theft, robbery. The Trudeau regime has shown that the rule of law does not exist in Canada.”

Unfortunately, the louder and brighter the voices of Russian officials about crossing the red lines, the less tangible are the results. We hold a modest hope that this time will be different. Moreover, if you scratch it, then in our country there is a lot of private property among Canadians. Is it really impossible to find 500-900 million rubles?

If it works out, then you can withdraw a couple of billion. Only a mirror answer is required - to take only from individuals or companies, not from the Canadian government. The fact that after that investors will think eight times whether to enter Russia after that, you should not be afraid. Canada hasn't given much thought to its image, and we shouldn't. In the end, now between Moscow and Ottawa there is almost a hot war going on.

The confiscation scheme can be taken from Trudeau himself - first the sanctions, then the law for confiscation, and then the seizure for some good deeds. For example, for the needs of the army, which is now engaged in the denazification of Ukraine.


Most likely, the Ukrainian Antonov Airlines will receive the right to operate the Russian Ruslan

Now the presence of three An-124s in Germany is clearly the subject of an underground diplomatic bargaining - the Germans will not just give up Ruslanas. Moreover, under Russian numbers, they will not even be able to take off. The story of the planes in Leipzig will continue.

At the end, a little about the sad. Although the material without it does not shine with optimism.

A few questions for the responsible persons.

How did it happen that on February 27, 2022, three days after the start of the special operation, our Ruslan landed in Toronto?

An-124 is originally a military transport aircraft of a strategic level, which we cannot produce. Each "Ruslan" is worth its weight in gold, both for the state and for the army. Even if it is in private hands.

And three more giants at the beginning of the Russian military operation generally stood in Germany. At the time of the evacuation of diplomats from Kyiv, it was impossible to send planes urgently to Russia? Under any false pretext?
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  1. +82
    17 June 2023 01: 55
    The answer to all stupid questions: in private hands!
    And now these sticky hands are giving rise to a desire to privatize more, which is badly nailed down.
    Specifically Kostin and Nabiulina.
    Question: who are they for? For ours, or for the Germans?
    The second question: What is the guarantor guaranteeing to us, and what to these nabiuli? And, he is busy - he rewards Tereshkova, she deserves it because.
    1. +40
      17 June 2023 03: 52
      They have a strong desire. One hundred pounds are already on the sidelines dividing the industry of the not yet fully controlled territories of the former 404, preparing for privatization.
      All this is very saddening, such discordants. So some have to go to die, while for others it's just business. As long as the people think they are fighting for the freedom and future of Russia, there is hope for victory. And in another case, dark times may come, God forbid, of course
      1. +28
        17 June 2023 04: 19
        Tell me, what assets of the state of Canada are located on the territory of Russia?

        Confiscate!

        And it is high time to cancel licensing agreements for the use of patents from unfriendly countries.
        1. +44
          17 June 2023 09: 18
          Since Canada has arrested the aircraft of a private company, the Government of the Russian Federation should seize all the property of private Canadian companies in our country and sell part of this property at a reduced price and cover the loss of the Volga-Dnepr, in the form of the cost of the aircraft and lost profits if this aircraft flew, say for 20 years. Only extremely tough actions can stop the enemy, and Canada is the enemy.
          I’m just afraid that our partners have already lost time and the Canadians have long sold everything and withdrawn all the money, therefore they do what they want without fear of any consequences
          1. 0
            17 June 2023 14: 55
            Quote: ramzay21
            Since Canada seized a private company plane.....


            ..., then the private trader can apply to any Russian court with a demand to either return or destroy the property stolen from him.
          2. +8
            17 June 2023 19: 47
            Yes, I agree with the confiscation of Canadian assets. As they say, business and nothing personal. To compensate the Volga-Dnieper for all costs and losses due to the fault of the Canadian rulers. Unless, of course, we have something.
          3. +7
            18 June 2023 10: 24
            An-124, this is primarily a military transport aircraft, due to the impossibility of their production in Russia, we need to use them exclusively in the interests of the Ministry of Defense, the inadequate approach to the use of these aircraft by private structures is extremely striking, questions about the return of all Ruslans located abroad on the territory of Russia had to be decided even before the start of the NWO, because the sanctions response from the West could and should have been foreseen and envisaged.
          4. 0
            21 June 2023 13: 26
            Our guts are thin, they only open their mouths, expressing dissatisfaction ... It's a shame for such a country.
          5. +2
            22 June 2023 23: 26
            Quote: ramzay21
            Since Canada seized a private company plane

            Canada... Canada... Canada... Canada... Well, look at the system of GOVERNMENT in Canada...
            MONARCHY! And then ask yourself the question: "Who is the monarch?"
            The English king, Who has the right on behalf of CANADA even to declare WAR!
            England should be pulled on the kukan, not Canada! That's who is the most disgusting state in the world!
            That's who the new Carthage is!
            Carthage must be destroyed!
            And Trudeau is just a bibabo!
            1. +1
              22 June 2023 23: 27
              Quote: Fast_mutant
              "Who is the monarch?"

              And then ask the same question looking at Australia and New Zealand. ))))
        2. +4
          18 June 2023 12: 39
          Hundreds of planes from unfriendly countries remained in Russia. And compliance with the license was canceled a long time ago, last year.
          1. -3
            18 June 2023 14: 39
            Yes, back in the spring of 2022, about 800 Boeings and Airbuses were confiscated by Putin's decree.
            1. +4
              20 June 2023 07: 49
              Yes, back in the spring of 2022, about 800 Boeings and Airbuses were confiscated by Putin's decree.

              It is better not to remember this shame. Our airlines, including the semi-state Aeroflot, in order to pay less to the budget, registered their or partially their aircraft offshore, under the brilliant leadership of the guarantor and his friends, and now, like all other efficient ones, frantically began to look for a way out.
              The fact that in a country like ours there should be a major national carrier, equipped with our own aircraft, did not occur to the guarantor and his friends until 2022.
      2. +30
        17 June 2023 05: 03
        The government and deputies seem to be going to unanimously vote for the second stage of privatization.
        It is necessary to put up a petition for the abolition of privartization.
        1. +4
          20 June 2023 07: 53
          Petitions and protests will not help, the authorities will stand for the oligarchs to death. The power of the oligarchs will not go away on its own, and it is no longer possible to live with it, because historical events await us, unfortunately.
    2. +10
      17 June 2023 04: 28
      Quote: faterdom
      The answer to all stupid questions: in private hands!

      And irresponsibility! angry The planes were privatized by the state and the guarantees gave work for the benefit of the state, and as a result ... pfik. Sleeping there, that's for sure. request
      1. +39
        17 June 2023 06: 44
        And after all, looking at everything that is happening - to this day there are characters who assure that Comrade Stalin staged the Great Purge solely out of personal bloodthirstiness! belay
        1. +5
          18 June 2023 09: 54
          Looking from the height of 2023, I personally can only say one thing about Stalin’s purges, it was necessary to remove more nits many times more
        2. -6
          18 June 2023 12: 39
          And how much did it help Comrade Stalin?
          1. +13
            18 June 2023 17: 42
            They won the Great Patriotic War and built a second superpower.
            And don't you know? The Abwehr was very lamented that it was almost impossible to find behind the front line people ready for betrayal.
      2. AUL
        +28
        17 June 2023 09: 59
        An-124 is originally a military transport strategic aircraft, which we cannot produce.
        And from what vegetable is an object of a strategic level in private hands? Maybe Poplars are already in the hands of private traders?
        1. +3
          18 June 2023 10: 32
          These are the costs of a market economy and a liberal approach, we have no limits and borders, entire sectors of the military-industrial complex have been given into private hands, and no one still knows exactly how much foreign capital is involved, but such foreign participation in our military-industrial complex is a priori unacceptable and illegal .
          1. 0
            23 June 2023 09: 39
            Take a look at the US military-industrial complex, it is all 100% private and does not work badly with defense spending under $800 billion a year. Before the NWO, in the country, 70% of retail chains belonged to foreign capital, many "ekchperts" said that this was a real disaster, that in the event of a war with the West, we would not have anything to eat here, but how it happened. In fact, we have already privatized their assets from us, forcing them to sell a business worth billions for a penny here.
    3. +7
      17 June 2023 07: 18
      Quote: faterdom
      The answer to all stupid questions: in private hands!

      The Volga-Dnepr group includes three airlines: Volga-Dnepr of the same name, AirBridgeCargo and Atran. It follows from the SPARK data that Volga-Dnepr Airlines is 49% owned by Volga-Dnepr Logistics BV, registered in the Netherlands. Another 51% is owned by Volga-Dnepr-Moscow LLC, which is wholly owned by Volga-Dnepr Logistics BV. These structures own the same shares in AirBridgeCargo and Atran. The parent company of the group is the Alpine Prosperity Foundation, which is 100% owned by Isaikin.

      According to Kommersant, Volga-Dnepr-Moscow got rid of foreign complicity and will now be wholly owned by top managers. Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

      According to the Federal Air Transport Agency, in January-February, the Volga-Dnepr group occupied more than 50% of the Russian air cargo transportation market. The group's business was directed to the global market: AirBridgeCargo and Volga-Dnepr Airlines almost 100% of flights were international, Atran has 65% (data for 2019).
      1. +24
        17 June 2023 08: 27
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

        Well, straight primordially Gus surnames.
        1. Aag
          +5
          17 June 2023 19: 21
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

          Well, straight primordially Gus surnames.

          Everything is as always for some time now: "goodies" and profits for the owners of companies; costs, losses - tax, social, price, - people spinner...
          1. Aag
            +2
            17 June 2023 19: 58
            Quote: AAG
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

            Well, straight primordially Gus surnames.

            Everything is as always for some time now: "goodies" and profits for the owners of companies; costs, losses - tax, social, price, - people spinner...

            ... let's throw it on the population, the plebs.
            1. Aag
              +5
              17 June 2023 20: 08
              Quote: AAG
              Quote: AAG
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

              Well, straight primordially Gus surnames.

              Everything is as always for some time now: "goodies" and profits for the owners of companies; costs, losses - tax, social, price, - people spinner...

              ... let's throw it on the population, the plebs.

              The minusers do not know, do not remember, or do not want to remember how from the very top there was an appeal about the need to support the banking sector (read bankers), the aluminum business (read Deripaska), and much, much more after the introduction of the first sanctions?
              And who ended up in the opera after that, and who, having several passports, continued to cash in on Russia?
        2. 0
          23 June 2023 13: 02
          As in a joke:
          A man comes to the law office "Rabinovich, Brecher, Weinstein,
          Katz and Ivanov" and asks Ivanov to manage his affairs.
          "But why not one of the firm's other partners?" - asks
          his secretary.
          - You know, the man says, - I somehow trust business acumen more
          a man who managed to get into SUCH a close company.
      2. +15
        17 June 2023 11: 30
        Quote: tihonmarine
        AirBridgeCargo and Atran.

        Quote: tihonmarine
        Volga-Dnepr Logistics BV,

        Quote: tihonmarine
        AirBridgeCargo

        Quote: tihonmarine
        Alpine Prosperity Foundation,

        Quote: tihonmarine
        registered in the Netherlands.

        And after that we are surprised that planes are being stolen from us?
        All titles companies must be Russian, written in Russian and registered in Russia.
        1. +1
          19 June 2023 18: 00
          All company names must be Russian, written in Russian and registered in Russia.

          Why don't you like the Russian name Volga-Dnepr?
          and what will the Russian name of the company give? Officially, the legal entity of Airbridgecargo in the documents was written quite in Russian letters LLC "Airbridgecargo Airlines", what does not suit you?
          What are the claims against the airline? They probably were not informed by anyone about the forthcoming adventure of the president (or who makes decisions there) in Ukraine.
          Both Airbridgecargo and Volga-Dnepr were among the most advanced cargo airlines in the world. Isaikin and his associates have created a truly world-class airline with a new air fleet (one of the largest fleets of the most load-bearing production aircraft B-747-8F, a unique An-124 fleet) with an advanced flight optimization system. Yes, their transportation was almost 100% outside of Russia (China - Europe - North America), but it is not their fault that Yeltsin, Putin and their associates destroyed the country's manufacturing industry in 30 years, that the industry cannot provide a cargo base for their transportation power. It is logical that all their names will be made in the international language of communication, and the work will go through foreign subsidiaries in order to be more understandable for their customers.
          I am not a supporter of private ownership of the means of production, but within the framework of our model of the economy and the state, such companies can be quite proud of (especially for lack of anything better). And you see letters and words unpatriotic. So for you there is an airline "Aviastar-Tu"
          1. 0
            4 December 2023 20: 47
            Quote: andybuts
            Airbridgecargo in the documents was written in quite Russian letters as Airbridgecargo Airlines LLC, what’s not to your liking?

            And what’s Russian here, besides letters?
            Yes, actually, why should I argue with you, if you were even embarrassed (afraid, as an option) to write your nickname on the site in Russian.
        2. 0
          23 June 2023 13: 08
          As a railroad worker, I'll say - it's better not to look who owns the engineering holdings and where their "owners" are legally registered.
          Exactly the same situation with domestic carriers.
          And the energy complex ... do you think the local power plant, built under Lenin, is a state-owned one? No, it belongs to the German holding I.ON through "pads".
      3. +10
        18 June 2023 05: 52
        Thanks for the info. Well, everything is in place now. Tvk, these gentlemen, under the guise of transportation, specially overtook airplanes from Russia to Kanvda and Germany. Quiet change.
        1. +4
          18 June 2023 10: 42
          This is a completely acceptable option, the interests of private business are not always combined with the national interests of our country, but this situation needs to be urgently corrected, the interests of business should not prevail over the national interests of Russia and in any way infringe on them.
      4. 0
        18 June 2023 17: 47
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: faterdom
        The answer to all stupid questions: in private hands!

        The Volga-Dnepr group includes three airlines: Volga-Dnepr of the same name, AirBridgeCargo and Atran. It follows from the SPARK data that Volga-Dnepr Airlines is 49% owned by Volga-Dnepr Logistics BV, registered in the Netherlands. Another 51% is owned by Volga-Dnepr-Moscow LLC, which is wholly owned by Volga-Dnepr Logistics BV. These structures own the same shares in AirBridgeCargo and Atran. The parent company of the group is the Alpine Prosperity Foundation, which is 100% owned by Isaikin.

        According to Kommersant, Volga-Dnepr-Moscow got rid of foreign complicity and will now be wholly owned by top managers. Among them, the interlocutors of the publication name Sergei Shklyanik, Sergei Pedan and Valery Gabriel.

        According to the Federal Air Transport Agency, in January-February, the Volga-Dnepr group occupied more than 50% of the Russian air cargo transportation market. The group's business was directed to the global market: AirBridgeCargo and Volga-Dnepr Airlines almost 100% of flights were international, Atran has 65% (data for 2019).

        And now the question is how these planes ended up in the hands of these crooks. Did they build them?
        Consequences of brazen robbery of the country.
        But someone itches to continue it, Nabiullina and Siluanov have already squealed.
    4. +13
      17 June 2023 08: 01
      . It's completely illegal, it's theft, robbery.

      No, it's just a war. And someone did not understand this.
      1. 0
        18 June 2023 19: 11
        To whom is the war, and to whom the mother is dear, this is more relevant for us now than ever before.
    5. AAK
      +7
      17 June 2023 10: 00
      So let them privatize all "partner" real estate on the territory of Russia, if they have enough courage, and as for "deep indignations" of all irons, then on this occasion the great I.A. Krylov already spoke out 200 years ago - "... and Vaska listens and eats ..." The "partners" of all Russian "concerned" in all places were spinning, and there was nothing to croak, either cowards, or just loot in the eyes
      1. +20
        17 June 2023 13: 46
        I find it difficult to write that it is possible to squeeze out the “Canadian” for our AN-124, but I rummaged around at the “neophyte” level and found the following information. To date, at least three ships of the German company United Heavy Lift are in the Arctic zone of Russia. It would be expedient to retroactively stop their escort by our icebreakers until the return of our aircraft stuck in Germany. The Canadians have created a precedent, at least they should not miss a chance.
        1. +5
          17 June 2023 23: 12
          It would be advisable to retroactively stop their escort by our icebreakers until the return of our aircraft stuck in Germany
          Not just stop the wiring, but confiscate it. In principle, the same Iran has been doing this for a long time, and nothing. And our leadership is either afraid of offending partners, or just suckers that everyone has.
    6. +6
      17 June 2023 19: 12
      Tereshkova just deserved the right, not the award. She was still winged by Korolev, according to gossip.
      Not only did she lose her brains in her old age, she also crap.
      For me personally, the only woman is an astronaut, this is Savitskaya. And the head is in place.
      1. +1
        18 June 2023 17: 50
        Quote from Alex
        Tereshkova just deserved the right, not the award. She was still winged by Korolev, according to gossip.
        Not only did she lose her brains in her old age, she also crap.
        For me personally, the only woman is an astronaut, this is Savitskaya. And the head is in place.

        If you believe the gossip, Korolev said, there will be no more women in space with me.
    7. +7
      17 June 2023 19: 41
      "Guarantor" hasn't guaranteed anything to us for a long time. I am writing the word in quotation marks, because it is not even funny to call him a guarantor.
      Specifically Kostin and Nabiulina.

      Lord, they are just hands controlled by the "guarantor" - our "largest liberal in Russia", as he himself once said. No need to talk about bad boyars - we live in Russia - here everyone is dancing from the head ... alas ...
      1. +2
        18 June 2023 17: 53
        Quote: Shelest2000
        "Guarantor" hasn't guaranteed anything to us for a long time. I am writing the word in quotation marks, because it is not even funny to call him a guarantor.
        Specifically Kostin and Nabiulina.

        Lord, they are just hands controlled by the "guarantor" - our "largest liberal in Russia", as he himself once said. No need to talk about bad boyars - we live in Russia - here everyone is dancing from the head ... alas ...

        All the oligarchs who did not want to obey him, Putin removed.
        Khodorkovsky, Gusinsky, Smolensky, Berezovsky, etc.
        There are those who dance to his tune.
    8. +3
      18 June 2023 11: 26
      You can steal from any state with any system. It's not about "nabiulin" and "private hands".

      The point is how the state is ready to respond to direct robbery. I don't see any problems to take, and somewhere in the area, for example, the Baltic, the Mediterranean, or the Far East, to intercept and land some kind of Canadian Airlines cargo plane. Bash on bash, as they say.
    9. +1
      21 June 2023 12: 31
      Because capitalism. I will not quote about what capital is ready to go for the sake of profit. Therefore, as soon as people are outraged by any abomination, they are immediately given a universal explanation - BUSINESS! And that's it. They say that you will have to die (due to diseases, poverty, wars, etc.) not because you are hated, but because BUSINESS. What is not clear?!
    10. 0
      6 August 2023 17: 42
      And why didn't they scare Canada with the "red line"?
  2. +19
    17 June 2023 01: 57
    A few questions for the responsible persons.

    The question is empty ... it is depressing that it is impossible to hold these responsible persons accountable ... the stupidest reaction of our diplomacy is depressing ... the lack of sensitive answers for these robbers is depressing ... the mediocrity of leaders who are not able to calculate and stop actions to take away Russia's property is depressing. ..hehe, such an inability to adequately respond to external threats will lead to the collapse of our aviation operating abroad ... mediocrity of management is akin to betrayal.
    1. Eug
      +13
      17 June 2023 06: 05
      The constant references to deceit and non-compliance with agreements by the "partners" are also very depressing ... it is high time to draw the appropriate conclusions.
  3. +16
    17 June 2023 02: 07
    With the Canadians, everything is clear and understandable, they have no questions. The rot is known. And why is our guarantor silent? Or will we scatter strategic transport workers? We have each board worth its weight in gold ... Putin could put Trudeau behind the scenes such conditions for his trick that he would still pay extra for moral damages. Voros Putin himself on whose side is he playing?
    1. +17
      17 June 2023 02: 20
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      Putin could put such conditions behind the scenes for Trudeau on his trick that he would still pay extra for moral damage.

      Can you suggest options? And I can't think of anything. Is it possible to return our hockey players that they play, and the actor Serebryakov.
      1. -14
        17 June 2023 04: 44
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Can you suggest options?

        Well, at least set the ISIS on them, after supplying it with explosives ... Why is it not an option for you? wink
        1. +9
          17 June 2023 05: 09
          Quote: Luminman
          unleash ISIS on them, after supplying it with explosives... What is not an option for you?

          This is a bad option. We are recognized as a terrorist state all over the world, and Lukashenko, the last dictator in Europe, will move to the lower league.
          1. -5
            17 June 2023 06: 21
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            We are recognized as a terrorist state around the world,

            And I don't think we have anything to lose. we will watch under a beer how they are blown up there ... wink
            1. +17
              17 June 2023 06: 29
              and then they come to you under the sofa where you drink beer, they will send someone, it’s better not to open this box .. and in general - you propose to deal with terrorism at the state level, are you in yourself? it’s better then to cut some cables in the ocean - it will be more effective and efficient ..
              1. -5
                17 June 2023 06: 37
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                You propose to deal with terrorism at the state level

                Do you consider the destruction of enemies terrorism?
                1. +7
                  17 June 2023 08: 31
                  Quote: Luminman
                  Do you consider the destruction of enemies terrorism?

                  If you act like IS, then yes. Yes, even if you just shake a vigorous loaf so that schoolchildren will crawl under their desks, then this is also kind of like terrorism. From the Latin word for fear.
                2. +9
                  17 June 2023 09: 33
                  ISIS, too, apparently does not think that it is doing it wrong, but this does not change the meaning .. and have we declared war? however, during the war, it is purposeful to destroy civilians - crime and fascism, and they also give you pluses .. how much did the Soviet army during the Second World War - peaceful quarters, just demolish? not at all .. unlike the allies .. but why didn’t you think about it?
                  1. -2
                    17 June 2023 10: 51
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    in a war, deliberately destroying a civilian is a crime and fascism

                    Why peaceful? For example, there is NATO headquarters in Brussels. Why not a goal? Or do you think that this is an organization that carries humanism? Something like Mother Teresa?

                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    how much did the Soviet army demolish during the Second World War - peaceful quarters, just like that? not at all .. unlike the allies .. but why didn’t you think about it?

                    I thought. And that's what came to my mind - saving peaceful quarters, we lost our people in the war more than everyone else. And these others from peaceful quarters, they are now spitting in our faces and demanding compensation for their release ...

                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    and they give you pluses

                    And the pluses are put by those who, unlike you, love and protect their people and do not save strangers peaceful quarters due to the death of their soldiers ...
                    1. +8
                      17 June 2023 11: 10
                      Quote: Luminman

                      And the pluses are put by those who, unlike you, love and protect their people and do not save other people's peaceful quarters at the expense of the death of their soldiers ...

                      and why are you exaggerating? You offered to send terrorists to Canada, we are not at war with Canada and our soldiers too .. but if it’s about saboteurs, that’s different, but you suggested it’s terrorists .. it’s quite logical that terrorists commit terrorist attacks .. and they will have every right and also send to us - do you "love and protect your people" with such proposals?
                      1. -4
                        17 June 2023 11: 22
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        You suggested sending terrorists to Canada

                        And who do you propose to send there? Young ladies with bread and salt?

                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        we are not at war with Canada

                        And who confiscated our plane? Who sends weapons to Ukraine? Zimbabwe? Or maybe Papua New Guinea?
                      2. +5
                        17 June 2023 11: 40
                        well, for the relevance of your proposals, it is necessary to declare war on Canada and send saboteurs, but not terrorists without a war .. understand the difference? I understand that you are outraged .. me too .. but you need to think about the consequences of what is proposed .. although if you are "for a red word" - then okay hi
                      3. -1
                        18 June 2023 12: 58
                        By the way, Papua New Guinea recently allowed the US Navy to use its ports and other infrastructure. So our enemies multiply, their ranks grow stronger
                  2. -1
                    17 June 2023 23: 16
                    how much did the Soviet army demolish during the Second World War - peaceful quarters, just like that? not at all .. unlike the allies .. but why didn’t you think about it?
                    We thought. Now those who were demolished by the sixes of those who demolished. Maybe that's the whole problem?
                  3. +3
                    18 June 2023 13: 57
                    Quote: 2 level advisor
                    ISIS, too, apparently does not think that it is doing it wrong, but this does not change the meaning .. and have we declared war? however, during the war, it is purposeful to destroy civilians - crime and fascism, and they also give you pluses .. how much did the Soviet army during the Second World War - peaceful quarters, just demolish? not at all .. unlike the allies .. but why didn’t you think about it?

                    Firstly, not a civilian, but a mobilization resource. Secondly, did they ever feel sorry for our civilians? No. And now they won't regret it. And should we treat their fascist layman like a sacred cow? Why? Is their peacekeeper more worthy of life than ours? This is pure racism!
            2. +1
              18 June 2023 09: 10
              we have not reached the level of the 20s of the 20th century.
              ISIS against ComIntern is not quoted.
        2. 0
          18 June 2023 12: 45
          What is the interest of the organization you mentioned? Has it ever occurred to you that even those who are called international terrorists have their own interests? Terrorists blow up everything for fun only in blockbusters. P.S. And are you really sure that they don’t blow up anything just because they don’t have explosives? And even if we assume that this is so, do they really have nowhere to find it, except how to get it in the way you indicated ???
      2. +2
        18 June 2023 12: 21
        Can Serebryakov be left to them?""""""""""""""
        1. 0
          18 June 2023 19: 33
          and that in the zone we have everything filmed
          on some black dolphin?
  4. +1
    17 June 2023 02: 35
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Is it possible to return our hockey players that they play, and the actor Serebryakov.

    Serebryakov in no case ... he, with his cinematography about Russia, let him live better in Canada ... hockey players earn a living ... the main thing is that they didn’t get into politics.
    1. +5
      17 June 2023 02: 42
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      .hockey players earn a living ... the main thing is Schaub did not get into politics.

      Tretiak, Fetisov, quite poked themselves into politics.
      1. +2
        17 June 2023 02: 54
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Tretiak, Fetisov, quite poked themselves into politics.

        This is a double-edged sword... if a hockey player who has signed a contract with a Canadian club begins to engage in political activities instead of hockey, it is expected that he will have problems either from Trudeau or from us. request
        Fetisov and Tretiak are retirees, in our country it is possible to safely protect the interests of Russia ... abroad it will not work like that ... WADA, the IOC and other Anglo-Saxon structures are shitting there.
        1. +8
          17 June 2023 04: 09
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          in our country it is possible to safely protect the interests of Russia ... abroad it will not work like that ..

          Not funny.
        2. +4
          17 June 2023 08: 38
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          in our country can safely protect the interests of Russia... it won't work that way abroad...

          The XNUMXs thought so too.
    2. +1
      17 June 2023 06: 48
      Serebryakov in no case ... he, with his movie black about Russia, let him live better in Canada.
      What all naive. I don't know where Serebryakov lives. But until the last day, filmed in Russia.
    3. -1
      18 June 2023 17: 57
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      Is it possible to return our hockey players that they play, and the actor Serebryakov.

      Serebryakov in no case ... he, with his cinematography about Russia, let him live better in Canada ... hockey players earn a living ... the main thing is that they didn’t get into politics.

      This ... podonok and Russophobe Serebryakov has already returned and is being filmed here again.
  5. +3
    17 June 2023 03: 47
    Well, it’s necessary to freeze accounts for the corresponding amount from some Canadian private company, let Trudeau give them back
    1. +1
      17 June 2023 06: 01
      Quote from alexoff
      Well, it’s necessary to freeze accounts for the corresponding amount from some Canadian private company, let Trudeau give them back

      And will you transport strategic cargo on the accounts of Canadian companies? I don’t remember which English king offered half his kingdom for a single-seat vehicle with a power of 1 (in words: one) hp, and here is a heavy transport aircraft.
      1. +3
        17 June 2023 07: 15
        Nagan. Do you think the Volga-Dnepr company should give 16 Boeing 747-8 leased after our Victory. Or count them towards reparations? bully
      2. 0
        17 June 2023 14: 35
        I propose to carry them by rail. And give the money to Ilyushin so that they add speed along the PAK VTA
  6. +21
    17 June 2023 04: 38
    Our government is impotent in these matters.
    But they are masters of spreading rot on their citizens ...
  7. +22
    17 June 2023 05: 35
    No matter how great the outrage at the actions of the Canadians, the dejection comes from something else.
    Russia has nothing to answer. In a sense, it is weighty to answer, and not to broadcast about the "red lines" and about the intersection of them.
    We don’t have anything special to take revenge on Canadians.
    There is nothing to twist their arms and force them to return the plane and the funds paid for parking.
    Nothing to threaten. There are no friends who could raise their voice in our support. It is unlikely that Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua will be able to create a front of emotional support for us.
    The arrest of the plane is an occasion to once again think about the fate of Russia.
    Are we going there, are the goals set.
    Whether people's interests are defended with the proposal to "deepen and expand" privatization.
    There are a lot of such questions. The events of the last year reveal more and more new problems for Russia.
    Including the fact that when many and many have become worse off, some nimble subjects are again covered in chocolate and enrich themselves. Agile from the word steal.
    So how can there be strength in a country in which not only there is no unity of society, but, on the contrary, the stratification and tension in it approach dangerous values?
    That's why they don't respect us in the world. And they are no longer afraid. They spit on us.
    It is sad.
  8. +6
    17 June 2023 06: 04
    Do not forget about the considerable residual value of the car. According to some estimates, up to 800 million rubles.


    There is no need to be especially upset, this is not such a lot of money, one and a half times cheaper than one Ka-52.
    And there is no special need for this scow. It's just a shame that some states can take away private planes and yachts from Russian citizens without consequences for themselves. Although the airline was Russian-Ukrainian at the time of creation and earned money for shareholders even by transporting goods for NATO, and they may have disputes between the owners. I would not particularly worry about the owners of the company. Business, nothing state and harness for the owners, spending state money from my taxes is not necessary, it is better to spend on other useful things.
    And then you read the comments ... they worry ... for the owners, as much as the doshirak does not fit into your mouth. Where to send money to the robbed?
    1. +2
      18 June 2023 11: 02
      What does money have to do with it, you don’t need to measure everything only in money, the An-124 is a unique military transport aircraft that the Russian aviation industry is not able to produce, they are not replaceable and you simply cannot compensate for their loss with money alone, you need to create a similar aircraft and establish its serial production, but this is not a matter of the very near future, and on what the army will transport weapons and all the necessary cargo, you didn’t think about it, the IL-76 will not help here, this is a machine of a completely different level.
    2. 0
      18 June 2023 13: 03
      The cat did not get meat, but the cat has a proud look. - I wouldn’t eat it - it stinks too much (c)
  9. +5
    17 June 2023 06: 06
    the lack of four boards at once will inevitably affect both the company's revenue and the wear and tear of the Ruslans. There is not much to repair the D-18T engines, which come from Zaporozhye.

    Formally, from the point of view of Russian laws, Zaporozhye is a temporarily occupied territory of the Russian Federation. So it is necessary to liberate Zaporozhye along with Motor Sich, and motors are far from the main reason why this is necessary.
    1. -1
      17 June 2023 06: 51
      need to be released
      Who needs? Take communication with military commanders, speaking at the forum. You don't have to think of anything. It was clearly stated that no one needed anything.
  10. +5
    17 June 2023 06: 10
    They were not prepared for this .... stupid excuse.
    They believed their foreign "partners", their promises, the fact that there are some rules there ... but this is also stupid !!! The rules in the West, even though they somehow observe only for themselves, a few for their own, and even in relation to strangers, this has NEVER happened !!! And the whole story about this, just the same, screamed !!!
    In general, our "naive Chukchi boys / girls" still want to live like this and bite anyone who is ready to break such a situation!
    In vain, perhaps, when we are in power, a bunch of unremarkable people are wiped off, whom the people hate, and they bloom and STINK, without stopping, without limiting themselves in anything!
    In general, this "Vaska" .... at the expense of listening, no, no, but he eats sour cream, I have no doubt that this is his sour cream.
    A new privatization ... someone can say, they hope that this is another THEFT?
  11. +25
    17 June 2023 06: 12
    Russia immediately lost 7 An-124s on August 22, 1990, when they were seized by privateers from the Volga-Dnepr Aircraft Company
    And the fact that someone somewhere "braked" these planes is just the implementation of Lenin's thesis
    Loot the loot
  12. +7
    17 June 2023 06: 13
    We are not afraid. So they don't respect. If we continue to chew snot, we will be devoured by enemies. The allies will turn their backs on us. Stop being diplomatic
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 11: 05
      This is true, we have long ago needed to give up excessive nobility, it is only to our detriment.
      1. 0
        23 October 2023 19: 34
        This is not nobility, this is sycophancy.
  13. +3
    17 June 2023 06: 43
    In total, the Canadian airport received at least 100 local dollars for the downtime of the Ruslan.
    Canada, having predicted the situation and created the conditions, then took good advantage of it, not only by arresting the plane, but also forcing it to pay for its parking at its airport. This can be called a well-prepared operation to seize property and money from a Russian (albeit private) company. How to answer this is naturally not within the competence of the VO participants, so argue. do not argue, but the decision is with the authorities. But in any case, you need to answer.
    1. 0
      18 June 2023 18: 03
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In total, the Canadian airport received at least 100 local dollars for the downtime of the Ruslan.
      Canada, having predicted the situation and created the conditions, then took good advantage of it, not only by arresting the plane, but also forcing it to pay for its parking at its airport. This can be called a well-prepared operation to seize property and money from a Russian (albeit private) company. How to answer this is naturally not within the competence of the VO participants, so argue. do not argue, but the decision is with the authorities. But in any case, you need to answer.

      Kpnada would not even flinch, but behind her is the main world bandit and godfather of the United States.
      That's why they behave so arrogantly.
      The conclusion is simple - when the hegemon weakens, all these Canadas will hide under the bench.
      Carthage must be destroyed.
      And of course you have to answer.
  14. -3
    17 June 2023 07: 46
    If all AN-124s both in Canada and Germany fall into the hands of Ukraine, imagine how many weapons and ammunition they can transfer quickly, practically at our expense. If this is the case, then they must be destroyed by any means, even in the air, even at the airfields of Canada and Germany or Poland. soldier
  15. -4
    17 June 2023 09: 23
    It is necessary to arrange a special operation and seize this aircraft by force, preferably with cargo and crew.
  16. +3
    17 June 2023 09: 26
    The Volga-Dnepr was based at the Leipzig airfield for a long time, well, a very long time ago. Money decides everything.
  17. +1
    17 June 2023 09: 31
    On February 27, 2022, an An-124 Ruslan transport vehicle with a large batch of covid tests from China landed at the Canadian airport in Toronto Pearson. -Everything needs to be done in order not to land in Europe. From the word at all.
    1. 0
      17 June 2023 15: 35
      Do you know anything about these things, or are you just saying that?
  18. +4
    17 June 2023 09: 59
    First of all, this is a complete lack of mention of the work of lawyers and the Foreign Ministry.
    There is such scope for claims, filing a lawsuit, etc.. And keep quiet.

    Okay, the planes landed in a puddle. But Lawyers and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should work according to their profile .. Or ... Lavrov is famous for something completely different ....
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 11: 10
      So the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already expressed its deep concerns about this, but it is simply not capable of anything more.
  19. +10
    17 June 2023 10: 28
    Quote: U-58
    No matter how great the outrage at the actions of the Canadians, the dejection comes from something else.
    Russia has nothing to answer. In a sense, it is weighty to answer, and not to broadcast about the "red lines" and about the intersection of them.
    We don’t have anything special to take revenge on Canadians.
    There is nothing to twist their arms and force them to return the plane and the funds paid for parking.
    Nothing to threaten. There are no friends who could raise their voice in our support. It is unlikely that Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua will be able to create a front of emotional support for us.
    The arrest of the plane is an occasion to once again think about the fate of Russia.
    Are we going there, are the goals set.
    Whether people's interests are defended with the proposal to "deepen and expand" privatization.
    There are a lot of such questions. The events of the last year reveal more and more new problems for Russia.
    Including the fact that when many and many have become worse off, some nimble subjects are again covered in chocolate and enrich themselves. Agile from the word steal.
    So how can there be strength in a country in which not only there is no unity of society, but, on the contrary, the stratification and tension in it approach dangerous values?
    That's why they don't respect us in the world. And they are no longer afraid. They spit on us.
    It is sad.

    It got to the point that "dwarf" African, and not only states, are trying to mediate in the conflict. Lived up. Disgrace! sad
  20. +6
    17 June 2023 10: 32
    Quote: Max1995
    First of all, this is a complete lack of mention of the work of lawyers and the Foreign Ministry.
    There is such scope for claims, filing a lawsuit, etc.. And keep quiet.

    Okay, the planes landed in a puddle. But Lawyers and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should work according to their profile .. Or ... Lavrov is famous for something completely different ....

    Not the planes got into a puddle, but those who sent them over the hill after the start of the NWO. And if you call a spade a spade, then these characters are enemies and traitors. The person holding the position of the Supreme High Command should have asked them, but he does not do this, like many other things .... sad
  21. +7
    17 June 2023 11: 06
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Tell me, what assets of the state of Canada are located on the territory of Russia?

    Confiscate!

    And it is high time to cancel licensing agreements for the use of patents from unfriendly countries.

    - This is not our method! We will give an asymmetric answer: we will invite the children of Canadian diplomats to the Christmas tree in the Kremlin!
  22. +4
    17 June 2023 11: 08
    Plane!! here 300 billion were frozen!! they actually stole it, and why didn’t they return it to the country before starting their own ?? the government is not just cretins, but ENEMIES OF THE COUNTRY !!!!
    1. -6
      17 June 2023 12: 46
      Quote: alex aircraft
      Plane!! here 300 billion were frozen!! they actually stole it, and why didn’t they return it to the country before starting their own ?? the government is not just cretins, but ENEMIES OF THE COUNTRY !!!!

      Why are you killing yourself with these yards? They have been looking for the second year, but they can not find)))
      1. +2
        17 June 2023 15: 22
        Quote from: lukash66
        Why are you killing yourself with these yards? They have been looking for the second year, but they can not find)))

        according to your GDP, who spoke about this, was he telling a lie?
  23. +4
    17 June 2023 12: 32
    Actually, it's a private airline. These planes belong to the Aerospace Forces? State? NO. So what's the point of killing? The greed of the fraer was also ruined by the belief in the sacred inviolability of private property. But of course you have to send a reply. One smart person, a lecturer at Moscow State University, an economist, has already given a recipe. For confiscated property with a coefficient of two, or even three, to write off the state. Russian debt. That is, we forgive everyone to whom we owe. Price An124 approx. 800 million, which means we write off 1,6 yards of the state. debt. 3,4 is better. That's all the arithmetic.
  24. +1
    17 June 2023 12: 57
    Guilty, of course 2,4 yards. 8x3 I can still.)))))
  25. +7
    17 June 2023 13: 02
    Yes, flying after the start of the war to an enemy country is brilliant. Here is the stupidity of the airline's management, and the negligence of the FSB. The latter could hint to this stupid management that the planes should be returned to their homeland.
    For every fireman. Now it remains to chew snot. IL-76 Antonov cannot be replaced.
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 11: 14
      I completely agree that we still have not learned how to plan and think strategically for the future.
  26. +5
    17 June 2023 13: 35
    I'm more concerned if these aircraft are of strategic importance to the state, then why are they still in private hands????
    1. +5
      17 June 2023 14: 23
      Quote from Evgeny
      I'm more concerned if these aircraft are of strategic importance to the state, then why are they still in private hands????

      In the VKS, 6 aircraft fly and, like, 12 are in storage. And these, most likely, were sold for a penny in the dashing 90s. Then and not such sold for a penny.
    2. +6
      17 June 2023 15: 23
      and oil and gas are not of strategic importance? and defense factories? Doesn't it bother you that they also belong to private traders to a large extent?
    3. +3
      17 June 2023 15: 29
      Well, obviously the right people at the top were getting the monthly agreed sums, and the scheme suited everyone.
    4. +1
      18 June 2023 11: 17
      These are questions for our Government, there is too much liberalism and a market approach, which, as the SVO has shown, is by no means always correct and justified.
  27. 0
    17 June 2023 13: 47
    Who knows what someone on Olympus, Moscow, will come up with, and who rules the arrival and response of these heads? But the helmsmen look at these heads as members of subordinate teams.
  28. exo
    +2
    17 June 2023 15: 14
    In the old days, before the start of hostilities, government agencies ordered their merchant ships to leave the ports of hostile countries. But, apparently, our leaders are unaware of this. The result is deplorable. Strengthening the enemy Air Force with our aircraft.
  29. +3
    17 June 2023 15: 23
    This toothless power, empty chatter in everything, just infuriates. They said A, and B say there are not enough eggs ... But puff out your cheeks like hello!
  30. 0
    17 June 2023 15: 26
    I wonder what exactly the author means by "private possessions" of Canadians in Russia? Canada has never developed business in Russia particularly strongly. This is a small agricultural country, economically oriented only to the US market.
    1. +7
      17 June 2023 19: 09
      This is a small agricultural country, economically oriented only to the US market.

      Would you buy a globe or something. Canada is the second largest in the world by area.
      As for the agricultural sector, try to read, for example, about their aerospace industry, then you will puff out your cheeks.
      I wonder what exactly the author means by "private possessions" of Canadians in Russia?

      For example, the Unkur copper-silver mine in Transbaikalia belongs to the Canadian Azarga Metals and is currently valued at almost $400. Or the six auto parts factories of Magna International.
  31. +3
    17 June 2023 16: 46
    How can you not understand! Here the problem is in private or non-private hands, the problem is in the general impunity of those who make decisions! And impunity breeds permissiveness!
    We not only blocked planes, before that diplomatic property was taken away, I don’t want to talk about financial robbery at all. And yet, no one answered for the placement of money, for the export of strategic raw materials (not even titanium, but ordinary gasoline and diesel ...), and you are talking about aircraft ...
    Moreover, it’s ridiculous to be offended by Canadians, no one knew that they had the largest (at the time the NWO began) Ukrainian pro-fascist community?
    It is very good to be good Samaritans, only it is good: when from a pure heart, and not from stupidity and greed.
  32. 0
    17 June 2023 17: 40
    The owners of these aircraft have passports of citizens of NATO countries. Why worry about someone else's property.
  33. +2
    17 June 2023 18: 07
    Russia's only correct response to the machinations of Canada and the rest of the Collective West can only be a convincing military victory on the Ukrainian front. And then it will be necessary to restore order in the country, build new aircraft and do not forget to punish those through whose fault the Russian Ruslans were sent straight into enemy captivity.

    It is necessary to forever cut down on your nose that Russia has no greater enemy than the vile Anglo-Saxons. When building future relationships with them, you must always take this into account, and if the opportunity presents itself, then mercilessly wet them in the toilet. They do not understand any other language.
    1. +6
      17 June 2023 19: 26
      It is necessary to forever cut down on your nose that Russia has no greater enemy than the vile Anglo-Saxons.

      The biggest enemy, to put it in your words, is the internal one, our comprador and corrupt elites, who created an inherited semi-feudal estate society without social elevators. Those in power are the same people who destroyed the once great power, betrayed and sold the heritage of our ancestors and the wealth of the people for the purpose of personal enrichment and satisfaction of their petty-bourgeois ambitions, for the sake of monetization of power. All of them continue to sleep softly and eat sweetly, despising and fearing their country and their people.
  34. +2
    17 June 2023 19: 09
    you can ask even more questions to de-effective managers and their Kremlin mastermind, but there will never be answers, Putin does not like when he is asked questions that he has to answer like - "she drowned"
  35. -1
    17 June 2023 19: 17
    Shoot down. Significantly. Defiantly.
  36. +2
    17 June 2023 19: 17
    The country should know "its heroes", I would like to find out the position, name and surnames, the main "effective manager" of this entire "almshouse", as well as the rank and position, full name of the commanders (if it is a BTA, then there are any), whose signatures are on flight missions and who gave orders, or rather did not give, in fact, hand over, military equipment to the enemy. And, most importantly, I would like to know for how long they were convicted for these crimes and negligence, such as transferring equipment to the enemy and causing material damage to the state, treason and sabotage, by a military tribunal and when the sentences came into force.
    But something tells me that everything will be as always, no one will answer for anything, as is usually the case among the upper class, protected by laws and immunity, nepotism and a guarantor. Total silence and smearing of snot on spitted cheeks, with complete helplessness and failure in resolving such issues.
    1. +3
      17 June 2023 20: 24
      Quote: seacap
      The country should know "its heroes", I would like to find out the position, name and surnames, the main "effective manager" of this entire "almshouse", as well as the rank and position, full name of the commanders (if it is a BTA, then there are any), whose signatures are on flight missions and who gave orders, or rather did not give, in fact, hand over, military equipment to the enemy. And, most importantly, I would like to know for how long they were convicted for these crimes and negligence, such as transferring equipment to the enemy and causing material damage to the state, treason and sabotage, by a military tribunal and when the sentences came into force.
      But something tells me that everything will be as always, no one will answer for anything, as is usually the case among the upper class, protected by laws and immunity, nepotism and a guarantor. Total silence and smearing of snot on spitted cheeks, with complete helplessness and failure in resolving such issues.

      This is not BTA, this is a PRIVATE airline. Where and how they grabbed the Ruslans and how much they brought to whom, most likely, it will not be known. Most likely in the 90s, when everything and everything was sold for a case of vodka.
  37. +1
    17 June 2023 19: 20
    I hope that if the plane is handed over to the ukram, it will not reach its destination (we can do whatever we want with our property).
    And ideally, so that he would not fly to the NATO base - what to do, the new pilots could not, and the robbers did not turn to the Russian Federation to turn off the timer
  38. +1
    17 June 2023 19: 54
    Quote: paul3390
    And after all, looking at everything that is happening - to this day there are characters who assure that Comrade Stalin staged the Great Purge solely out of personal bloodthirstiness! belay

    You are right, the cypress trees cut down on his orders are to blame for everything, this is of course an indicator of his complete sanity. All people have their oddities and it is not necessary to make a saint out of one, especially if he was not one, and did not want to be.
  39. +2
    17 June 2023 20: 22
    How did we get to this life?
    I would like to understand.
    Turbines, pumped, airplanes similarly.
    Who will be responsible for this?! love
  40. +2
    17 June 2023 20: 33
    Quote: sagitovich
    The government and deputies seem to be going to unanimously vote for the second stage of privatization.
    It is necessary to put up a petition for the abolition of privartization.

    To whom the petition, serfs to the nobles, deputies are part of the ruling elite, and the name, to appease the serfs, but the essence, are the oligarchs. It won't work, and it's stupid.
  41. -1
    17 June 2023 20: 39
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    A few questions for the responsible persons.

    The question is empty ... it is depressing that it is impossible to hold these responsible persons accountable ... the stupidest reaction of our diplomacy is depressing ... the lack of sensitive answers for these robbers is depressing ... the mediocrity of leaders who are not able to calculate and stop actions to take away Russia's property is depressing. ..hehe, such an inability to adequately respond to external threats will lead to the collapse of our aviation operating abroad ... mediocrity of management is akin to betrayal.

    Very interesting, but since when did they become yours? Are you an oligarch? Then these are not yours, but they are in order and do their business with yours not intersecting. This is a parallel reality
  42. 0
    17 June 2023 20: 43
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Fetisov and Tretiak

    Fetisov and Tretiak, if they were younger, they would be there, and since they are not interested in them over the hill, did they find a job here or do you want to say that they are altruists?
  43. 0
    17 June 2023 20: 45
    Quote from alexoff
    Well, it’s necessary to freeze accounts for the corresponding amount from some Canadian private company, let Trudeau give them back

    Who needs? Here is the question, if they do nothing, then there is enough or there are other agreements.
  44. -1
    17 June 2023 20: 46
    Quote: Andrey Andreev
    How can you not understand! Here the problem is in private or non-private hands, the problem is in the general impunity of those who make decisions! And impunity breeds permissiveness!
    We not only blocked planes, before that diplomatic property was taken away, I don’t want to talk about financial robbery at all. And yet, no one answered for the placement of money, for the export of strategic raw materials (not even titanium, but ordinary gasoline and diesel ...), and you are talking about aircraft ...
    Moreover, it’s ridiculous to be offended by Canadians, no one knew that they had the largest (at the time the NWO began) Ukrainian pro-fascist community?
    It is very good to be good Samaritans, only it is good: when from a pure heart, and not from stupidity and greed.

    Right
  45. -1
    17 June 2023 20: 49
    Quote: U-58
    No matter how great the outrage at the actions of the Canadians, the dejection comes from something else.
    Russia has nothing to answer. In a sense, it is weighty to answer, and not to broadcast about the "red lines" and about the intersection of them.
    We don’t have anything special to take revenge on Canadians.
    There is nothing to twist their arms and force them to return the plane and the funds paid for parking.
    Nothing to threaten. There are no friends who could raise their voice in our support. It is unlikely that Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua will be able to create a front of emotional support for us.
    The arrest of the plane is an occasion to once again think about the fate of Russia.
    Are we going there, are the goals set.
    Whether people's interests are defended with the proposal to "deepen and expand" privatization.
    There are a lot of such questions. The events of the last year reveal more and more new problems for Russia.
    Including the fact that when many and many have become worse off, some nimble subjects are again covered in chocolate and enrich themselves. Agile from the word steal.
    So how can there be strength in a country in which not only there is no unity of society, but, on the contrary, the stratification and tension in it approach dangerous values?
    That's why they don't respect us in the world. And they are no longer afraid. They spit on us.
    It is sad.

    And what actually surprises you, earlier under the capitalists it was different? Respect who and where. Even for debts to France, they sent Russian soldiers to fight in France, in fact, they paid off, now, has something changed?
  46. 0
    17 June 2023 20: 59
    Quote: Petrol cutter
    How did we get to this life?
    I would like to understand.
    Turbines, pumped, airplanes similarly.
    Who will be responsible for this?! love

    Do you want the owner of turbines and airplanes to count out before you? Trouble. He doesn’t know about it, therefore, he won’t apologize, it’s his and he does what he wants with junk.
  47. -1
    17 June 2023 21: 04
    But inappropriately dissolve drooling, but do your own! Do not depend on anything, do not complain and do not grab onto a couple of old boards that do not have much left to fly, but you need to create new ones. This is a big kick for us to start moving!
    1. -1
      18 June 2023 13: 10
      Already started - they showed the new Lada !!!
  48. +1
    17 June 2023 21: 06
    Quote: exo
    In the old days, before the start of hostilities, government agencies ordered their merchant ships to leave the ports of hostile countries. But, apparently, our leaders are unaware of this. The result is deplorable. Strengthening the enemy Air Force with our aircraft.

    It was exactly the same, but pigeons did not always fly, including to Chemulpo)) Moreover, the planes are private, not state-owned, and there is no war, there is a CBO, so everything is in order.
  49. 0
    17 June 2023 21: 11
    Quote: Vadim S
    But inappropriately dissolve drooling, but do your own! Do not depend on anything, do not complain and do not grab onto a couple of old boards that do not have much left to fly, but you need to create new ones. This is a big kick for us to start moving!

    I absolutely agree with you, with your money, of course, it's time for you to start and there is already a kick, we are waiting for what or whom?
  50. -2
    17 June 2023 21: 19
    Quote from Etwas
    Quote: Vadim S
    But inappropriately dissolve drooling, but do your own! Do not depend on anything, do not complain and do not grab onto a couple of old boards that do not have much left to fly, but you need to create new ones. This is a big kick for us to start moving!

    I absolutely agree with you, with your money, of course, it's time for you to start and there is already a kick, we are waiting for what or whom?

    A convenient position, let the uncle make it time for him, and when he does, we will call it ours))) What people have in their heads, "do not read Soviet newspapers, - There are no others. But don't read any)))
  51. +3
    17 June 2023 21: 22
    This is not Canadian shame. This is our shame, or rather our power.
    Because there will be no answer. They will explain simply that we are not like that.
    Yeah... a ruble more expensive.
    1. +2
      18 June 2023 11: 30
      It’s time to step over this inappropriate nobility and learn to respond in a timely and adequately tough manner, all these deep concerns are simply sickening!!!
    2. -3
      18 June 2023 15: 22
      What does power have to do with it? all the planes to the last are not state property. Did not know? they are the property of Volga-Dnepr JSC.
  52. +4
    17 June 2023 21: 24
    Running on a rake is the crown of the Kremlin compradors - from the 4 pipes of the "Turkish Stream", the Rosneft agreement with the Kurds and the unprofitable "Power of Siberia", not to mention the strengthening of the energy independence of the NATO country at our expense.
    And the gurgling pipes of the Nord Stream seem to hint at the foresight of the galley rower.
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  54. -2
    17 June 2023 22: 13
    Why don't you privatize strategic assets? They created hundreds of airlines, planes began to crash, flights were delayed, and passengers were deceived. There should be one state airline, one state. mobile operator, one state bank, one unified state energy company, etc. (everything related to strategic areas).
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 13: 13
      And how do poor Americans with a dozen airlines live? P.S. At Aeroflot, planes also crashed. It’s just that there were no social networks then, and the newspapers reported this on the last page with a three-by-two centimeter note - so as not to distract Soviet citizens from building communism and not to be grist to the mill of those denigrating the socialist system
      1. -1
        18 June 2023 15: 24
        they live well. Because they are not trying to portray one thing as another. And there is competition, and it’s not the bureaucrats who created it when they were in positions, all of which came from the budget.
  55. 0
    17 June 2023 23: 00
    There are actually two exits.
    1. Destroy the board in the air.
    2. Do the Iranian thing - seize Canadian property of equal or more expensive value.
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  57. 0
    18 June 2023 09: 38
    What is the cynicism of the requirement to pay for parking? In Russian laws, everything is the same - they took the car to an impound lot, and you pay for parking.
    1. 0
      18 June 2023 22: 23
      Bandits stole your car and charged you for repairs. Is that normal?
      After Canada epically took the daughter of the head of Huawei hostage, Britain should have outlawed this colony long ago.
  58. 0
    18 June 2023 12: 16
    Shoot him down on the first flight and all this silently and without commenting in any way, while taking away everything that is Canadian from us, just as silently
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 13: 16
      Does the fate of North Korea haunt you?
      1. 0
        18 June 2023 22: 22
        With cuckoldry, you're off to Europe. There are no such people in Russia.
  59. +1
    18 June 2023 14: 09
    Excuse me, of course, for my radical attitude, but in this situation, I think that it is necessary to shoot down a plane over international waters, the answer is why they did it, because it is ours, period, they wanted to, they shot down their plane, who cares. At most, environmentalists will scream and calm down.
    1. 0
      18 June 2023 14: 49
      The plane is hijacked, the property of Russia - why not?!
  60. +1
    18 June 2023 14: 40
    A smart person or one who cares about his business would not send his property to a place where there is at least some probability that it will be taken away. Even if such a possibility arose, I would run as fast as I could from such a place if I happened to be there. Now the question is, who owns the Volga-Dnepr if such stupid things are happening there?
  61. +1
    18 June 2023 14: 47
    I wonder, is it possible to declare that these planes are the property of Russia and if they are transferred, they can be shot down over neutral territory as considered hijacked?
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  63. 0
    18 June 2023 20: 23
    This is traditionally solved by counter-piracy. A Canadian vessel/ships of multiple value are captured and either the pirates return and compensate, or we take the compensating assets for ourselves.
  64. +2
    18 June 2023 21: 50
    It is useless to confiscate money from Canadians in favor of Volga Dnepr, money is not needed, planes are needed. Russia has a lot of money, but there are no such planes. If they hand it over, they need to be blown up on NATO territory. And in general, I am for terror on their territory
    1. +1
      18 June 2023 22: 21
      Typically, in such cases, assets of orders of magnitude greater in value are seized. They constantly swim in the ocean.
  65. 0
    19 June 2023 10: 39
    They take it away not because they want to, but because they can! Trudeau would have known immediately that this would lead to a breakdown in relations or to confiscation of property, and complete confiscation
  66. 0
    20 June 2023 04: 03
    Rusia debe confiscar todos los activos y pasivos canadienses en su territorio como respuesta, y expulsar a los diplomáticos canadienses como personas non-gratas para el Estado Ruso.
  67. 0
    21 June 2023 04: 21
    The answer is simple! Start confiscating Canadian property in RUSSIA! Create the most impossible conditions for Canadian citizens to live and work in RUSSIA!
  68. 0
    22 June 2023 12: 51
    Everything will be as always: Let's express our concern!
  69. 0
    22 June 2023 12: 56
    Those who stole Russian property will soon compensate for everything with their territories!
  70. 0
    23 June 2023 08: 22
    In general, we need to nationalize the entire Volga-Dnepr!!
  71. aba
    0
    24 June 2023 17: 53
    What's wrong with that!? They will tell us that our Western partners have deceived us again, but we go to them with all our hearts, with all our wallets and accounts, and they are simply robbing us. And all the Westerners still do not lose hope that they can bargain and pay off, so there will be no response from Russia for anything.
  72. 0
    27 July 2023 17: 21
    The main thing is that it doesn’t reach 404, but it’s a pity the board.
  73. 0
    12 August 2023 21: 03
    Oh, let's chip in some money and help out the device!
    Oh, let's chip in some money and restore my plant...
    We, too, with the advice, were able to build large, high-tech vessels...
  74. 0
    2 September 2023 15: 19
    What about the Boeings and Airbuses that were leased from Russian companies? Did Russia return them, pay the lease or what?
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  76. 0
    15 September 2023 12: 05
    Russia will not lose.. it will be lost by the crooks who seized state property..
  77. 0
    5 October 2023 11: 06
    No, well, for the Canadian one - there was an article on Zen: “Canada paid for the arrested An-124 by factories.” Everything seems to be well laid out there.
  78. 0
    23 October 2023 19: 33
    And three more giants were stationed in Germany at the beginning of Russia’s military operation.

    And by the beginning of the SVO, $350 billion worth of Russian assets had not been withdrawn from American and European banks. So to speak, they gave a gift to our enemies. We are so rich, we need 350 billion. green. We still have oil and gas, we will still earn money. For such things, in an adequate country, people who allowed this would have been shot or imprisoned for life long ago. And here these people are still in their posts, receive awards and easily tell us at various forums how to properly build our economy.
  79. -1
    1 November 2023 00: 22
    That is, knowing that the plane could be detained and arrested, they still signed a contract and flew, and then everyone blamed them? The company is commercial, large. If you don’t have your own analysts, and everyone in the company is stupid, then it’s not even a pity. And if there is and they were just chasing profit, hoping that it would work, then it’s all the more not a pity. Life doesn’t teach a fool - that’s what our fathers and grandfathers said