South Korea built the first FA-50 fighter jets for Poland

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South Korea built the first FA-50 fighter jets for Poland
Official presentation and rollout of the first built FA-50GF, June 7, 2023


The Polish Air Force is currently planning a major rearmament program. They are decommissioning old Soviet-style equipment and are going to adopt modern aircraft. The FA-50 fighter of South Korean development is considered as one of the novelties. Last year, Poland and the Republic of Korea signed two contracts for the production of such equipment, and the first aircraft have already been built on them.



Upgrade plans


The current state of combat aviation The Polish Air Force leaves much to be desired. It is based on 48 American-made F-16C/D fighters. In addition, until recently, Soviet-style aircraft - MiG-29 and Su-22 of two modifications in the amount of approx. 35-40 units

The further operation of Soviet technology has long been considered inappropriate due to its moral and physical obsolescence. They decided to decommission the existing Su-22s, and the MiG-29s are being transferred to the friendly Kyiv regime as an aid. At the same time, in order to maintain quantitative and qualitative indicators at the desired level, a decision was made to purchase modern foreign equipment.

Thus, there is already an agreement on the supply of more than 30 American F-35 fighters. However, such aircraft will enter service only in the distant future, and a replacement for decommissioned MiG-29s is needed now. In this regard, the Polish Air Force placed an order abroad for equipment of the "transitional stage".

On September 16, 2022, the Polish Ministry of Defense and the South Korean company Korea Aerospace Industries signed two contracts for the construction and supply of aviation equipment. A total of 48 FA-50 aircraft have been ordered in two modifications. The supply of aids, training of personnel, etc. is also negotiated. The value of the two contracts reached PLN 18,9 billion (approx. USD 3 billion).


Two contracts


The first Polish-South Korean contract provides for the supply of 12 fighters in the FA-50GF modification (Gap Filler - “filling the gap”), for which they will pay approx. $700 million - $58,3 million each. Under the terms of the agreement, the production of this equipment will take a little over a year, and by the end of 2023 it will be handed over to the customer.

Modification "GF" as much as possible repeats the production version of the FA-50 Block 50 fighter, produced for the South Korean Air Force. This saves time and money on development and pre-production.

Under the terms of the second contract, the customer will receive aircraft of the new modification FA-50PL. It is planned to build 36 such machines with a total cost of $2,3 billion (about $64 million per unit). It is reported that this version of the fighter will be as similar as possible to the South Korean FA-50 Block 20. However, this time the continuity of designs will not save time, and deliveries of equipment will begin only in a few years.

In accordance with the signed agreements, at the end of last year, the South Korean side began training Polish pilots and technical personnel. It also provides for the supply of the necessary ground equipment, aids, simulators, etc. A full system of maintenance and operation of equipment has been deployed on Polish territory.

Delivery schedule


KAI started assembling aircraft for Poland immediately after receiving the official order. Already in February 2023, she rolled out the first FA-50GF of a new batch from the assembly shop. Over the next few months, two more aircraft were assembled. According to known data, a number of the following fighters are at different stages of construction. It is possible that even the last aircraft from the first Polish order have already been laid down and are being assembled.


On June 7, the official roll-out and presentation ceremony for the first three FA-50GFs took place at the KAI plant in Sacheon. The event was attended by the leadership of the Polish military department. In a solemn atmosphere, the planes were shown to the guests of the ceremony. Loud statements were also made about mutually beneficial cooperation, the modernization of the Air Force and the armed forces, and also, as expected, about confronting the insidious aggressor.

According to the approved schedule, already this year KAI should complete, test and transfer to the customer 12 "temporary" fighters under the first contract. They will be equipped with the 1st aviation squadron, from the 23rd tactical airbase in Minsk Mazowiecki. Previously, this unit had the MiG-29, but it was decided to transfer all such aircraft to Ukraine. The new FA-50GF will allow him to maintain combat capability.

The next 36 aircraft will be built according to the FA-50PL project. Reportedly, it is based on the South Korean FA-50 Block 20, but provides a number of innovations based on customer requirements. At the moment, the PL project is under development. The first prototype aircraft of this type will be built and lifted into the air only in the foreseeable future.

Then it is planned to start mass production. The first FA-50PL, under the terms of the contract, will go to the customer in 2025. The last of the 36 machines will be handed over in 2028. With their help, several more squadrons will be re-equipped, so far equipped with old Soviet equipment.

It is reported that in the distant future, the FA-50GF aircraft of the first batch may be upgraded under the PL project. As a result, complete unification of aircraft of this type will be ensured, which will give certain advantages.


subject of a contract


The promising 4th generation fighter FA-50 was developed by KAI in the 50s. It was built on the basis of the existing T-50 training aircraft, previously created with the participation of the American company Lockheed Martin. In parallel with the FA-50, the TA-XNUMX light attack aircraft was created on the same base. Combat aircraft differ from the basic training aircraft in the design of the airframe, the composition of the main units, on-board radio-electronic equipment and the possibility of installing weapons.

The first flight of the experimental FA-50 took place in 2011. By this time, the South Korean Air Force managed to place an order for serial production, and in 2013-15. the first batches of new equipment entered service. Within a few years, the Air Force received all 60 ordered aircraft. In addition, FA-50 fighters were built for Iraq and the Philippines. Last year, KAI received an order from Poland, and in February 2023, a contract with Malaysia appeared. New orders from foreign countries are expected.

The FA-50 in all modifications is a light, single-engine, multipurpose supersonic fighter with a two-seat cockpit. The aircraft was built according to the normal aerodynamic configuration with a high swept wing. The length of the machine exceeds 13 m, the wingspan is less than 9,5 m. The take-off weight is up to 12,3 tons. At the same time, the payload reaches 5400 kg.

The power plant includes one General Electric F404 turbojet engine. With its help, a maximum speed (at altitude) of more than 1800 km / h is achieved. Flight range - more than 1800 km, ceiling - 14,6 km.

Different modifications of the FA-50 differ in the composition of the avionics; the customer can choose the option that suits him. So, the Block 10 / FA-50GF modification uses the Elta EL / M-2032 airborne radar. A more advanced version of the Block 20 / FA-50PL will receive a Raytheon PhantomStrike station with an active phased array. Various means of communication, weapons control, etc. are also offered. To supplement the onboard equipment, it is proposed to use the Lockheed Martin Sniper outboard sighting container.


First three fighters for Poland

In the left wing influx, a built-in 20-mm M61 automatic cannon with 205 rounds of ammunition is installed. Under the wing and fuselage, there are seven suspension points for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. American-designed AIM-9 and AIM-120 missiles are offered to combat air targets. Hydra 70 unguided missiles, as well as guided AGM-65, KEPD-350, etc., are used against ground targets or ships. There is a wide choice of bombs of different calibers, incl. correctable.

Outdated replacement


The South Korean FA-50 fighter is of interest mainly as an attempt to develop a combat aircraft by a country that did not have such experience. On the whole, KAI coped with the tasks set, brought the aircraft to the series, entered the international market with it, and even demonstrates certain commercial successes. In addition, this project made it possible to reduce the dependence of the Republic of Korea Air Force on imported equipment.

However, despite all its advantages, the FA-50 has limited performance characteristics and combat qualities typical of the previous 4th generation fighters. In terms of its capabilities, it is inferior to newer technology and / or developments of leading aviation powers.

Thus, in the near future, the Polish Air Force is waiting for a specific and controversial update. The morally and physically obsolete MiG-29 and Su-22 will be replaced by modern, but far from advanced FA-50s. In general, such modernization of the aircraft fleet makes sense, but its real results will be limited.
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  1. KCA
    0
    13 June 2023 04: 47
    How can pshekia, sitting on subsidies from the gay union, buy weapons from the Republic of Kazakhstan, and even in such volumes? And no one can click and say - buy Leo and Eurofighters? The girls dance beautifully, four in a row
    1. +2
      13 June 2023 05: 30
      Quote: KCA
      How can pshekia, sitting on subsidies from the gay union, buy weapons from the Republic of Kazakhstan, and even in such volumes? And no one can click and say - buy Leo and Eurofighters? The girls dance beautifully, four in a row

      Why do they need Eurofighters? They need light cars.
      1. KCA
        +2
        13 June 2023 06: 10
        So there are the same Grippens, a completely light multi-functional fighter, and Sweden is a member, or the other side of the gay union
        1. +1
          13 June 2023 07: 16
          As if from ready-made backlogs, South Korean puppets rivet planes very quickly ...
      2. +3
        13 June 2023 08: 39
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        They need light cars.

        As I understand it, the choice was between used F-16s and new Koreans. The Koreans were chosen, but the reasons for this choice are not very clear to me.

        Well, okay, let the Poles figure it out themselves. In any case, the machine is not bad, and in the PL version it is even good. The Russian Federation, for example, has nothing comparable and apparently will not.
        1. +4
          13 June 2023 09: 09
          The choice is obvious. There is nothing cheaper with such features. F-16 is stupidly 1,5-3 times more expensive, depending on what you take.
          The Chinese only have JF-17, but the possibilities are not the same, but Ina is available to Poland.
          1. 0
            13 June 2023 09: 23
            The South Korean aircraft also has air intakes on the sides, and not from below, and immediately a double cabin.
            But price seems to be the deciding factor.

            The Chinese still have a J-10 for our AL-31F engine, and the JF-17 has an engine from the MiG-29.
            Actually, we would have to make our own single-engine fighter under the AL-31F and its development.
            1. ask
              -1
              30 July 2023 17: 59
              Air intakes on the sides of the fuselage are only good for straight flight. When conducting a maneuverable air battle, one of the air intakes is in the "aerodynamic shadow" of the head of the fuselage, which reduces engine thrust due to a decrease in air supply. Yes, and on the MiG-29 the ceiling is 18000m ...., the flight range is similar. A strange replacement ... Old iron with a new one? Upgrading the MiG-29 9-13 to the level of 9-19 SMT (or higher) is cheaper, especially since this is already a proven option. True, it is unlikely that Belarus and Russia will do this in the current conditions ...
              1. +1
                12 September 2023 21: 25
                Quote: ask
                When conducting maneuverable air combat, one of the air intakes ends up in the “aerodynamic shadow” of the fuselage head, which reduces engine thrust due to reduced air supply

                Where do you hope to see “maneuverable air combat” in the 21st century? Do you think there is an aircraft that can escape from short-range RVVs with transverse nozzles that can reach 40-60g? Maximum stealth, modern avionics with AFAR are relevant now. These Koreans' muzzles are quite small for a radar, since in recent years, even in the production of 4th generation aircraft, many composites have been used in the frontal projection to combat EPR. And judging by the radar and weapons, they will also have excellent strike capabilities. In general, it is necessary to compare not individual aircraft of different air forces, but the combat potential. Modern Air Forces today are not separate powerful vehicles, but a combination of modern AWACS, multifunctional vehicles with modern AFAR and RVV. And the Poles are unlikely to be interested in the Belarusian and Russian modernization of MiGs, since they have access to the Israeli, European, and American aircraft industries. Not only are the MiGs all already old, just like the Su-27, that it is simply not economically profitable to modernize them, and further operation of the MiGs and Sushki for 30+ years is quite expensive, since there is more fuss with old machines.
          2. +2
            13 June 2023 10: 08
            Quote from cold wind
            The Chinese only have JF-17

            Comparing the Chinese MiG-21 with the Russian engine and the Korean is more than strange. A NATO country naturally needs an aircraft of Western infrastructure.

            But with the F-16 there are options. The Norwegians recently sold aircraft with MLAs to the Romanians in quite a decent condition for 12M a piece, very budget. Another thing is if the Poles want a plane with AFAR. Go find such used ones, and modernization will not be cheap.
            1. KCA
              -2
              13 June 2023 18: 09
              Why is AFAR elevated directly to a critical advantage? Where are the disadvantages? In terms of power from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, hellish, in terms of water cooling, nichromes, the air conditioner still flies on the plane, so it's normal, but about the fact that Russia has been in ROFAR tests for 4 years, and in these events and in combat tests there is silence, although it may it's right that silence
            2. 0
              14 June 2023 07: 26
              What does he have from the MiG-21?
              This is only written in the Russian Wikipedia.
              1. -1
                15 June 2023 00: 06
                Quote: Maxim G
                What does he have from the MiG-21?

                Memories.
        2. 0
          13 June 2023 23: 00
          IMHO, the speed of delivery played for the Koreans.
          The Koreans were even ready to take away aircraft from their Air Force, just to get a contract: "Agreements with Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) Corporation - includes a contract for the purchase of 48 KAI FA-50 light two-seat combat aircraft (fighters) worth a total of 3 trillion won. The first 12 aircraft are to be delivered in the second half of 2023 in the current FA-50 Block 10 production configuration (moreover, according to South Korean media, the first eight aircraft will be taken from the KAI production line from among the aircraft being built for the South Korean Air Force). " https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4562346.html

          Well done Koreans, not every decade such contracts as the Polish contract for self-propelled guns, tanks and aircraft appear.

          The speed of execution, both for aircraft, for self-propelled guns and tanks, is just as impressive: less than a year from the signing of the contract - and deliveries are already there.
          1. -1
            14 June 2023 23: 53
            Quote: Wildcat
            IMHO, the speed of delivery played for the Koreans.

            Not an argument. The Norwegian deal for 32 aircraft was just completed in November. While the Koreans have so far rolled out only three aircraft. And in general, there are a lot of F-16s in fair condition on the market, for reasons discussed in another context.
            1. +3
              15 June 2023 02: 54
              “However, Poland chose the FA-50s not only because of their combat effectiveness, but also because of the speed with which they could be acquired. Warsaw also considered other aircraft, including the F-16, but none of them could be delivered quickly enough.
              “It is extremely important for Poland to increase the level of security as quickly as possible,” said the Polish Minister of Defense. The Polish Air Force should receive the first 12 FA-50s by mid-2023." https://www.businessinsider.com/poland-buys-south-korean-jets-to-replace-aging-soviet-fighters-2022-8

              "KAI's ability to quickly deliver aircraft was a decisive factor in Poland's choice of the FA-50," Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense Mariusz Blaszczak said in an interview with Polish media. The procurement has become urgent in light of the conflict in Ukraine and the growing need to replace the last MiG-29 fighters. and Su-22 in service with the Polish Air Force, and Lockheed Martin will not be able to deliver additional F-16s to Poland in the required time frame.It was noted that Polish F-16s are currently guarding the airspace of neighboring Slovakia, while this country awaits the delivery of its own F- 16.
              Blaszczak also highlighted the similarities between the FA-50, developed jointly with Lockheed Martin, and the F-16 in terms of systems that would allow the new aircraft to seamlessly integrate into existing infrastructure. It will also make learning easier as the transition from FA-50 to F-16 can be done quickly." https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2022-07-27/poland-turns-south-koreas -fa-50-fighter-attack-jet

              "In the words of Minister Blaszczak:
              “Deciding to purchase equipment in South Korea, I had to consider a couple of aspects, including lethality of weapons, delivery tempo, or industrial benefits. The agreement with the Koreans that we have managed to negotiate fuses all of the above elements. Other equipment manufacturers have not been able to deliver armament of that quality at so short notice, and with so broad collaboration with the Polish defense industry.”" https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/07/why-did-the-fa-50-win-in-poland-f-15ex-and- kf-21-on-the-horizon/

              "“When ordering modern weapons for the Polish Army, we follow four criteria. The first criterion is the needs, the second modernity, the third speed of delivery and the fourth criterion is compatibility. All these criteria are met in the framework agreement of cooperation signed with South Korea”, Błaszczak added." https://breakingdefense.com/2022/09/with-korean-aircraft-buy-poland-pushes-beyond-post-soviet -airframe-legacy/

              In general, the Koreans had something new and quickly.

              It would be more logical to take a used F16 IMHO, especially since Poland already has a TCB.
              But, as a replacement for the Su22, apparently, the FA50 is more reasonable, including due to low operating costs.
              1. -1
                15 June 2023 08: 02
                Quote: Wildcat
                It would be more logical to take a used F16 IMHO, especially since Poland already has a TCB.

                Uh-huh.
                Quote: Wildcat
                In general, the Koreans had something new and quickly

                Yes. There are essentially three new aircraft in this niche: Korean, F-16V (it was transferred to a new plant, after which a queue of existing contracts will be worked out, so new deliveries are possible closer to 2030) and a new SAAB / Boeing (so far only available as a training aircraft , it is unlikely that it will be possible to get armed modifications before the same 2030s). Other options (Aermacchi M-346, Hawk, etc.) are clearly inferior to the Korean.
                Quote: Wildcat
                But, as a replacement for the Su22, apparently, the FA50 is more reasonable, including due to low operating costs.

                A Korean with a phantomai, aim-120 and Norwegian KR is not even close to the Su-22)). I can understand the position that the F-35 + Koreans can be at least comparable to the F-35 + old F-16s in terms of capabilities. The Poles' decision might indeed have been the best possible.
                1. +2
                  15 June 2023 14: 23
                  A Korean with phantomay, aim-120 and Norwegian KR is not even close to Su-22))
                  Certainly not close. It's a replacement, after all.

                  By the way, an interesting point: again in the discussion "what should be the drummer" - subsonic or supersonic - the option of supersonic appeared, which is not at all obvious.

                  And making a bad fighter with AIM120 and other "bells and whistles" out of a striker / UTS is also an unobvious idea.
                  1. -3
                    15 June 2023 21: 32
                    Quote: Wildcat
                    making a bad fighter with AIM120 and other "bells and whistles" out of a drummer / UTS is also an unobvious idea.

                    Theoretically, it is possible to use a Korean just like a fighter with a backlight from the F-35. In order to launch aim -120, F-16 is not required.

                    Let's see how things go there.
                    1. +1
                      15 June 2023 21: 59
                      use the Korean just like a fighter with a backlight from the F-35.
                      IMHO, it is good to use such tricks on the F15 in the "many missiles" variant, which is already being worked out. The F15 can quickly reach the line of attack and quickly avoid a retaliatory strike or “hang” for a long time, waiting for the conditions to enter the attack, refueling in the air.

                      Is it possible to do this in Korean - you can. Is it necessary - no, IMHO.
                      The Korean makes sense as a striker with the advertised low cost of delivering weapons "from point A to point B." A second crew member potentially allows for "strike missions" without distracting the pilot. Trying to make another "universal" is possible, but in practice there is always a division between "fighter" units and "strike" units.

                      Will AIM120 (there are other BVR options for it) be attached to the Korean - probably yes, simply because they can, well, we need a cheap version of the "fighter for the poor" request .
                      1. -2
                        16 June 2023 08: 12
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        Is it necessary - no, IMHO

                        We are talking about the PL version. "PL", remember, means "Polish".

                        Thus, the theater is known, the enemy is known. The enemy has numerous, but low-quality aircraft. Theaters of operations are located near, on the near or on the far side of the border. Cruise missiles (Kepd and Norwegian) are integrated on the submarine, including work on sea targets, as well as short- and long-range V-V missiles.

                        Everything is reasonable.
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        well, we need a cheap version of the "fighter for the poor"

                        Universal combat aircraft for the poor. New F-5. The qualitative superiority of Satanists allows him to work against any targets. It is unlikely that he will pull a cannon battle with the Su-35 - so the penguin will not pull him, not a great loss. ICrakets are mainly needed for hunting CR, but many other things can be landed.
      3. 0
        15 October 2023 11: 32
        Why do they need Eurofighters? They need light cars.

        But why?
    2. 0
      14 June 2023 00: 33
      So the Koreans gave them these three billion on credit, apparently European manufacturers are not so generous
      1. 0
        15 October 2023 11: 35
        Well, yes, they are now stocking a lot of things there, incl. tanks and self-propelled guns. Like, “For free and sweet vinegar!” (C)
  2. +4
    13 June 2023 06: 11
    The existing Su-22 decided to write off

    Why didn’t Zelensky get thrown off? He, like a pig, will devour everything, just let's, but more. Or did the psheks stagger them so much that they won’t even reach 404?
  3. Eug
    +2
    13 June 2023 07: 05
    The price is embarrassing - as for me, it is prohibitive for such an aircraft. But the cost of operation is certainly very, very low. It would be interesting to see a detailed technical and economic specification for it with the resources of the units, the cost of repairs, the frequency of maintenance and other interesting details. And Poland, in addition to the T-50, is going to buy self-propelled guns in Korea with partial production in Poland and is negotiating a tank .. although it’s really strange that it’s not Grippen, besides, other NATO countries may follow Poland.
    1. +2
      13 June 2023 08: 20
      Nothing strange. Gripen costs almost 3 times more. FA-50 is very cheap, for such opportunities.
      1. Eug
        0
        14 June 2023 20: 39
        Another point is also possible - Poland is starting to focus more and more on overseas in order to take leadership positions in Europe, contrary to the opinion of some European countries. If I'm not mistaken, Grippen is still BAE.
    2. +1
      13 June 2023 08: 36
      Quote: Eug
      The price is embarrassing - as for me, it’s prohibitive for such a plane

      There is the price of the aircraft and there is the price of the contract. It includes maintenance, training, consumables, often and weapons. Usually twice the price of the aircraft.

      By itself, an aircraft of this class costs 20-30M.
  4. +3
    13 June 2023 08: 16
    Aircraft like Gripen, FA-50, HAL Tejas, J-10, JF-17 and we need.

    Light multifunctional fighter with one engine AL-31F AL-41F ..., inexpensive, mass-produced, but with modern weapons and equipment, with minimal measures for stealth on the airframe.
    1. -1
      13 June 2023 10: 13
      Quote: Maxim G
      Aircraft like Gripen, FA-50, HAL Tejas, J-10, JF-17 and we need.

      Light multifunctional fighter with one engine AL-31F AL-41F ..., inexpensive, mass-produced, but with modern weapons and equipment, with minimal measures for stealth on the airframe.

      Are you talking about the Su-75?
      1. +1
        13 June 2023 17: 16
        No - it is necessary to design based on the aircraft I have listed, and not build a stealth fighter.
        1. 0
          13 June 2023 18: 04
          We need to create unmanned platforms. The age of manned aviation is over. Manned aircraft will remain decision-making centers, for this we need two-seat a la Su-57.
          1. -1
            14 June 2023 06: 48
            Where did it end.

            All new generation, which is being designed manned.
    2. -1
      15 June 2023 02: 00
      How do you imagine an inexpensive fighter, "but with modern weapons and equipment"? :)
      These are, by definition, incompatible conditions. And why did you get the idea that a single-engine aircraft is better than a twin-engine one? The US Air Force has only two single-engine aircraft F-16 and F-35. Moreover, the latter, in a state of limited combat capability, is already experiencing the most powerful problems precisely because of the limitations of its power plant, and the second has become a full-fledged aircraft as a result of how many, 20 years of improvements and upgrades?
      All other US Air Force aircraft are twin-engine. F-14, F-15, F-18, F-22...
      1. -2
        15 June 2023 07: 52
        Quote: abc_alex
        How do you imagine an inexpensive fighter, "but with modern weapons and equipment"?

        Here, Korean.
        Quote: abc_alex
        And why did you get the idea that a single-engine aircraft is better than a twin-engine

        Fewer engines means less maintenance costs.
        Quote: abc_alex
        Moreover, the latter, in a state of limited combat capability, is already experiencing powerful problems.

        )))
        Penguin is 20 years old, and the witnesses of the collapse of the American fighter aircraft still will not end.
      2. 0
        15 June 2023 09: 21
        I gave a list of single-engine ones.
        And in the post you commented on.

        Inexpensive means relatively inexpensive.

        Regarding the twin-engine, relatively advanced ones like the F-22, F-35, Rafal, Su-57, etc.

  5. 0
    13 June 2023 08: 43
    The South Korean FA-50 fighter is of interest mainly as an attempt to develop a combat aircraft by a country that did not have such experience.


    F-18 engine, American or European radar, NATO standard armament. Korean there glider and assembly.

    But the airplane is quite decent, if the range is not fundamental - it can replace the F-16 of the old blocks (without AFAR).
  6. -3
    13 June 2023 08: 50
    WHO SOLD THE DRAWINGS OF THE YAK-130 TO EVERYONE TO ANYONE...???
    1. 0
      13 June 2023 09: 55
      Yak-130 is an Italian aircraft. By the way, the Poles also have it. The Koreans have a different solution.

      Yak-130 twin-engine subsonic, Korean single-engine supersonic. They compared tukhes with a finger.
      1. 0
        14 June 2023 07: 25
        What's Italian about it?
        Money?
        Quote: Negro

        Negro
        Yesterday, 09: 55

        +2
        Yak-130 is an Italian aircraft.
        1. -2
          14 June 2023 23: 47
          Quote: Maxim G
          What's Italian about it?
          Money?

          We are talking about Aermacchi M-346. It is made in Italy.
      2. +1
        15 June 2023 01: 51
        Quote: Negro
        Yak-130 is an Italian aircraft. By the way, the Poles also have it.


        You have been lied to. Yak-130 is a Russian aircraft. The Italians withdrew from the project long before it ended. And the Poles do not have it, here they lied to you too.
        1. -2
          15 June 2023 07: 49
          Again.
          Dzhungar remembered the drawings from the Yak-130. According to the drawings of the Yak-130 (partly) made Aermacchi M-346. The Poles also bought it as a training aircraft.
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  7. 0
    13 June 2023 18: 01
    as they wrote in the comments 51 million, but they stamp everything from excellent Samsung smartphones to cars, warships, large-capacity vessels (for Russia too), I just really want to ask Putin what he does in general besides hunting and fishing with a non-minister, although as life shows they are all non-ministers up there
    1. 0
      13 June 2023 19: 13
      In some ways, this is also a well-organized world-class propaganda ploy to demonstrate the advantages of democratic capitalism compared to the communist dictatorship of the DPRK.
      1. 0
        12 August 2023 22: 28
        Locals call their country "hellish Joseon" (헬조선). There is probably something for it. Joseon is what Korea used to be called.
    2. -1
      15 June 2023 02: 11
      Quote: Ryaruav
      as they wrote in the comments 51 million, but they stamp everything from excellent Samsung smartphones to cars, warships, large-capacity vessels (for Russia too), I just really want to ask Putin what he does in general besides hunting and fishing with a non-minister, although as life shows they are all non-ministers up there


      Well, apparently half a century of military dictatorship was not in vain for them. You would read something about the South Caucasus after the war. Do you want half a century of military dictatorship? No? Otherwise, run to Putin, ask him to introduce martial law for 20 years, which he, though, is all about fishing and hunting. :)

      The main secret of the South Caucasus is that it, like Japan after WW2 or China in the 70s, received the vast majority of "its advanced technologies" READY from the USA and Europe. Received by virtue of Washington's political considerations. The country is pathologically dependent on the United States technologically. In the aircraft discussed here, the main components, the engine and the radar are US ones.
      1. -1
        15 June 2023 07: 46
        Quote: abc_alex
        run to Putin, ask him to introduce martial law for 20 years,

        You see, with Putin, martial law will look clear.
        Quote: abc_alex
        The main secret of the South Caucasus is that it, like Japan after WW2 or China in the 70s, received the vast majority of "its advanced technologies" READY from the USA and Europe

        Strange secret. Technology comes from where it is.
  8. +1
    13 June 2023 18: 51
    Some kind of miscarriage from the marriage of a hornet with a falcon ...
  9. 0
    14 June 2023 07: 07
    It seems that the era of drones has come, but here it is healthy again.
    Preparing for the war of the past.
  10. 0
    20 July 2023 22: 19
    From the world on a thread - a beggar's shirt. There is nothing of its own. Mattress and Korean tanks, self-propelled guns Korean, mattress, Czech. MLRS mattress, light BTT is also a complete mess. What else do they have? Air defense, except for the ancient Wasps with sin in half modernized, also from behind the hillock. Small arms, according to their Wishlist, will also be imported. Somewhere this is already happening and those guys are already hanging themselves from such an abundance. Now there are planes.
  11. 0
    22 September 2023 04: 57
    Do Russia need Korean cars after supplying weapons to a potential enemy?
  12. 0
    22 September 2023 05: 01
    Do Russia need Korean cars after supplying aircraft to a potential enemy?