France to hand over SCALP-EG missiles to Ukraine

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France to hand over SCALP-EG missiles to Ukraine
SCALP-EG missile under the fuselage of a Dassault Rafale fighter


The French leadership intends to continue to support the Kiev regime and provide it with various weapons. The other day it became known that in the order of military-technical assistance to Ukraine they can send aviation cruise missiles SCALP-EG. How soon this will happen, and how many products will be shipped, has not yet been specified. However, even now it can be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless.



Long-range weapons


On May 15, French President Emmanuel Macron gave an interview to TF1 Info. The main topic of the conversation, as expected, was the Ukrainian crisis and the role of France in current events. The head of state on duty noted the need for assistance to Ukraine in countering the notorious Russian aggression. In addition, he revealed some ways of such assistance.

E. Macron recalled the supply of French weapons and equipment to Ukraine, and also stated the need to continue them. In the near future, it is planned to draw up and approve another assistance package, including various weapons. In particular, the possibility of transferring aviation ammunition is being considered.

The new aid package may include the SCALP-EG long-range air-launched cruise missile. At the same time, any details of such assistance are predictably not specified. E. Macron did not even name the approximate number of missiles for shipment, the timing of their dispatch, methods of deployment in the Ukrainian Air Force, etc.

As always, the French president made a reservation about restrictions on military-technical assistance. According to him, the Kyiv regime is still not going to transfer weapons that would allow attacking the "old" territory of Russia outside the newly annexed regions. However, the Kiev regime has long shown that it does not pay attention to such conditions and restrictions.

From two countries


It should be noted that news about French missiles for the Ukrainian regime appeared against a curious background. So, on May 11, the British Ministry of Defense officially announced the transfer of a certain number of Storm Shadow ALCMs to Ukraine. The very next day, the Ukrainian Air Force used this for the first time. weapon, and launches continue.


Suspension under the fender

The British product Storm Shadow and the French SCALP-EG are actually the same missile, produced for different customers. Thus, two foreign countries at once are ready to supply Kyiv with a modern aviation missile with high performance. Perhaps the supply plans for Storm Shadow and SCALP-EG were agreed in advance, and now they are allowed to talk about them openly.

It can be assumed that shipments of a "common" missile from the two countries are aimed at the quickest and easiest achievement of the required amount of assistance. In addition, due to this approach, it will be possible to solve some problems of a financial, logistical and organizational nature. In fact, we are talking about the division of costs and activities into two states. In this case, the recipient country will not have to master two different products, which to some extent will simplify the deployment of weapons.

Common rocket


Britain and France began developing a new long-range missile for their tactical aircraft in the mid-nineties. Curiously, the two countries assigned different designations to the project. The British military named the rocket Storm Shadow, and in France they introduced the name SCALP-EG (Système de Croisière Autonome à Longue Portée, Emploi Général - “General Long-Range Cruise Missile System”).

In 1996, the winner of the competitive stage of the program was a joint project of the French company Matra and the British British Aerospace (after a series of transformations, the current MBDA company was created on their basis). They received a contract to complete the development, conduct tests and prepare for mass production.

Preliminary tests of the new ALCM began at the turn of the decade, and at the beginning of the 2003s, the first launches from carrier aircraft took place. In 2004-XNUMX Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG officially adopted by the two countries. Over the next few years, the process of developing weapons and integrating new carriers into the weapons complex continued.

In parallel, the development of the project was carried out. The aircraft rocket was refined and improved technically. In addition, ammunition for MdCN ships and submarines was created at its base. Due to the design changes, such a product is distinguished by an increased launch range.


France placed the first order for the SCALP-EG back in the late nineties, before development was complete. 500 aircraft missiles were delivered. Subsequently, several hundred marine MdCNs were purchased. British-French missiles were supplied to a number of foreign countries. At the same time, exports were carried out mainly under the English designation Storm Shadow. Ukraine has now become the next recipient of missiles. Unlike other states, it receives ALCMs without payment at market value, and in addition, products under both names are transferred to it.

Technical potential


The SCALP-EG/Storm Shadow is a low-profile, long-range cruise missile designed for tactical aircraft. It is built according to the normal aerodynamic scheme and has an elongated faceted fuselage with a folding wing. The length of the product exceeds 5 m, weight - 1,3 tons.

The rocket is equipped with a low-power turbojet engine, with which it can reach speeds of up to 1000 km/h. The flight range reaches 560 km, but for export products this parameter is limited to 250 km. Marine modification flies 1300-1400 km.

Combined guidance is used based on satellite and inertial navigation, as well as the TERCOM system. During the flight, the autopilot determines the current coordinates of the rocket and compares the underlying surface with the loaded map of the area. In the final section of the trajectory, the search for the target is carried out by the infrared seeker. A 450-kg high-explosive penetrating warhead of the BROACH type is delivered to the target.

The regular carriers of the SCALP-EG ALCMs are the French Dassault Mirage 2000 and Rafale fighter-bombers. The RAF uses Tornado and Typhoon aircraft in this role. Reportedly, in Ukraine, modified Su-24 front-line bombers became carriers of Storm Shadow.

Predictable future


It is not known when the French missiles will reach Ukraine and reach combat use. But already now we can imagine the results of their use. Such conclusions can be drawn by considering the accumulated experience of using these products.


Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG missile in flight configuration

So, back in 2018, British-French missiles of several modifications were used for a massive strike on Syrian targets. Syrian air defense, built on the basis of Russian technology, successfully repelled this attack. At the same time, our specialists gained access to the wreckage of modern foreign weapons and were able to study them.

May 12, 2023 Storm Shadow was used by Ukrainian aviation for the first time. Two missiles were able to break through to the targets, but the carrier aircraft and the fighter covering it were seen and shot down. As early as May 15, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported the first successful interception of a cruise missile. The next day, they reported the defeat of seven Storm Shadow products and one Su-24 bomber, probably the carrier of such missiles.

Thus, the air defense and air forces of the Russian armed forces have shown and proved their ability to detect and destroy both Storm Shadow cruise missiles and their carriers in the form of old Soviet aircraft. Obviously, the French version of the ALCM does not differ from the British one and will show the same modest results.

However, SCALP-EG missiles have a chance to save their reputation, but such a development of events will not suit Kyiv. The fact is that Ukraine has few Su-24 bombers left, and the installation of imported missiles on other aircraft is difficult or even impossible. A scenario is quite real in which Russian air defense systems and fighters will finish off the Ukrainian fleet of bombers, and the missiles will be left without carriers. Accordingly, they will not be launched and will not be shot down. The blame for the failure of combat use can be placed on aviation, but not on missiles.

Double failure


The French leadership decided to once again help the Kyiv regime with the supply of modern weapons, but the prospects for such assistance are in question. The British Storm Shadow missile has already shown its real capabilities and lack of effectiveness. The French SCALP-EG is no different from it, and the results of the application will be the same. In fact, we are talking about the failed weapons of two countries at once.

However, the threat in the form of foreign missiles should not be underestimated either. The Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG ALCM has fairly high tabular characteristics and poses a danger to objects at a great depth of defense. Such weapons and their carriers should be considered as a priority target for air defense. And, judging by the latest news, the necessary measures have already been taken and have given the desired effect.
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  1. +40
    18 May 2023 04: 41
    However, even now it can be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless.

    Here you don’t need to hang noodles on your ears ...
    The enemy is not stupid and smart ... the Bryansk ambush showed this to the fullest.
    And if we relax even for a second, show complacency and tolerance, he will immediately strike on the sly ... using French missiles as well.
    1. Aag
      +12
      18 May 2023 06: 42
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      However, even now it can be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless.

      Here you don’t need to hang noodles on your ears ...
      The enemy is not stupid and smart ... the Bryansk ambush showed this to the fullest.
      And if we relax even for a second, show complacency and tolerance, he will immediately strike on the sly ... using French missiles as well.

      This phrase can immediately, with a high degree of probability, identify the author.
      1. +3
        18 May 2023 13: 16
        Of course, rockets are rubbish, from a machine gun they go astray with one burst. Identifies me try, flash a thought.
      2. Uno
        +5
        18 May 2023 19: 20
        I read the first paragraph and immediately guessed who the author is, so I have a suggestion.

        You can ask the author of this article to overpower himself and write an article for the VO audience about what, in his opinion, the weapons of the West would be useful for Ukraine, well, it cannot be that all help is useless.

        I think it should do for the "Analytics" section, especially considering that there has not been any normal analytics there for a long time
    2. 0
      18 May 2023 06: 57
      Do not exaggerate the threat from these French-British products, today Ukraine is a weapons testing ground, our air defense system is also being improved and gaining experience. The main task is to destroy the SU-24 of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, why can't you track the take-off of everything that flies? With modern detection systems, this is not such a difficult task, it is necessary to hit on takeoff.
      1. +9
        18 May 2023 08: 33
        Quote from Silver99
        why can't you track the takeoff of everything that flies?

        Because there are not enough technical means of reconnaissance, both space-based and air-based, and what is not always able to give the desired result, this is me about non-modernized A-50s, for example
        1. +2
          18 May 2023 10: 42
          Quote: svp67
          Quote from Silver99
          why can't you track the takeoff of everything that flies?

          Because there are not enough technical means of reconnaissance, both space-based and air-based, and what is not always able to give the desired result, this is me about non-modernized A-50s, for example

          So I say that this reciprocal nuclear doctrine is a profanation. Because even if they launch nuclear weapons at us, we will not see who and when and with what did it. Therefore, we cannot answer.
          1. +3
            18 May 2023 11: 27
            Quote: Katya_Ivanova
            So I say that this reciprocal nuclear doctrine is a profanation. Because even if they launch nuclear weapons at us, we will not see who and when and with what did it.

            Do not confuse ballistic missiles and aircraft. Ballistic missiles are easier to detect - they are already climbing into space. But aviation strives to work at low altitudes, where the problem of the radio horizon and direct radio visibility arises in front of the radar to its full height.
            1. -3
              18 May 2023 16: 55
              Quote: Alexey RA

              Do not confuse ballistic missiles and aircraft. Ballistic missiles are easier to detect - they are already climbing into space. But aviation strives to work at low altitudes, where the problem of the radio horizon and direct radio visibility arises in front of the radar to its full height.

              And how did they bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Aviation or ballistic missiles?
              1. 0
                18 May 2023 17: 09
                Quote: Katya_Ivanova
                And how did they bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Aviation or ballistic missiles?

                When the Koran was written, there were no minefields yet (c) anecdote.
                When "Hirosma with Nagasaki" was bombed ( lol ), there were no ballistic missiles yet. So they bombed from planes.

                Quote: Katya_Ivanova
                even if they launch nuclear weapons at us, then we will not see who and when and with what did it

                It was you who deceived. Enlighten yourself:

          2. -9
            18 May 2023 11: 58
            Quote: Katya_Ivanova
            Because even if they launch nuclear weapons at us, we will not see who and when and with what did it. Therefore, we cannot answer.
            You don’t even need to think: hit the states - you can’t go wrong.
        2. 0
          19 May 2023 03: 07
          Quote: svp67
          Quote from Silver99
          why can't you track the takeoff of everything that flies?

          Because there are not enough technical means of reconnaissance, both space-based and air-based, and what is not always able to give the desired result, this is me about non-modernized A-50s, for example

          Those. in the eighties we could control, for example, the sky of Norway, but now we don’t, something doesn’t converge.
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    4. +2
      18 May 2023 12: 52
      Here you don’t need to hang noodles on your ears ...

      A sane, adequate person could give out such writings to the mountain only in four cases:
      - under duress;
      - from selfish motives;
      - for the purpose of trolling the audience;
      - on the instructions of enemy intelligence.
  2. -8
    18 May 2023 04: 49
    It’s interesting how the yellow vests are doing there, and it’s not time for us to open a couple of funds in France in support of democracy in France, something Wet is sitting there, a lover of male hugs calmly, and also a couple of funds in Ireland and Scotland, the enemy must be beaten with his own weapon and preferably at his home
    1. +1
      18 May 2023 05: 11
      They will immediately cover it up there, all who are against are subjected to democratic dictatorship.
    2. +8
      18 May 2023 07: 00
      Quote from: tank_killer156
      it's time we open a couple of foundations in France in support of democracy

      You can find a French analogue of Medvedchuk, who will gratefully accept a couple of billion euros from Russia for the revolutionary struggle.
      1. +6
        18 May 2023 08: 36
        Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
        You can find a French analogue of Medvedchuk, who will gratefully accept a couple of billion euros from Russia for the revolutionary struggle.

        Yes, there is such, or rather such, Marina Volkova, oh ... Marine Le Pen)))
      2. +1
        18 May 2023 09: 53
        Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
        You can find a French analogue of Medvedchuk, who gratefully

        Where to take the French "Azov" into captivity later, in order to exchange rono for another?
    3. fiv
      0
      6 August 2023 08: 59
      The point is not that there is pasta there, the point is that there are no De Gaulles and Bismarcks with the Roosevelts
  3. -8
    18 May 2023 04: 57
    The Ukrainians are quite successful in killing the inhabitants of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions. But to defeat something significant and covered, a mass launch will be needed, that is, it looks like missiles, but airplanes ... A massive rise will mean a massive death, I don’t think that the Ukroluftwaffe will go for it. So in the hands of the Ukrainians, these missiles are weapons for killing civilians.
    1. -5
      18 May 2023 10: 47
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      The Ukrainians are quite successful in killing the inhabitants of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions. th.

      What are the residents doing there? Correct enemy fire? Why didn't they evacuate immediately?
      1. +4
        18 May 2023 11: 24
        What are the residents doing there?

        Live
        Why didn't they evacuate immediately?

        To your apartment on full board?
      2. +1
        18 May 2023 12: 01
        Quote: Katya_Ivanova
        Why didn't they evacuate immediately?
        Where? Do you have the opportunity to go somewhere to live for a few years? Quit your job, your home, your parents. Keep in mind that no one will buy your existing home.
      3. -3
        18 May 2023 13: 29
        Quote: Katya_Ivanova
        What are the residents doing there? Correct enemy fire? Why didn't they evacuate immediately?

        Have you noticed just now, Katyusha? Since the age of 14, civilians of the LDNR have not been killed by Khikhly?
  4. +13
    18 May 2023 05: 44
    . head of state noted on duty

    Nobody is afraid of anything anymore. Already yawning weapons and long-range missiles are sent.

    I didn’t want it to come to a competition - who will release more cruise missiles on each other. But the situation is inexorably moving towards this.
  5. +1
    18 May 2023 06: 17
    France to hand over SCALP-EG missiles to Ukraine
    Will give, give, give.
  6. +10
    18 May 2023 06: 22
    However, even now it can be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless.

    The author, people are dying under shelling there, haven’t you heard? Human blood is shed.
    And how conscience is enough to throw in such ...
    1. +12
      18 May 2023 07: 03
      Little, expensive and useless - the main conclusions in all the publications of this author about the supply of Western weapons to Kyiv partners.
    2. -11
      18 May 2023 07: 49
      Quote: Comrade Y
      However, even now it can be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless.

      The author, people are dying under shelling there, haven’t you heard? Human blood is shed.
      And how conscience is enough to throw in such ...

      Strategically - it's like shelling FAU-1; 2 London in WWII 3 Reich for Kyiv now ...
      They killed a lot of people, and goals -Military- 3 Reich did not reach at all in this matter ....
      So for Kyiv - they will put a certain number of Donetsk residents, but this will not bring them any military victories.
      1. +5
        18 May 2023 10: 10
        Strategically, it’s like shelling FAU-1; 2 London in WWII 3 Reich for Kyiv now ...
        They killed a lot of people, but the 3rd Reich did not achieve the military goals at all in this matter ....
        So for Kyiv - they will put a certain number of Donetsk residents, but this will not bring them any military victories.

        Incorrect comparison. Fau was not accurate, unlike. You ask the people of Lugansk what was there where the rockets flew. And then already draw a conclusion, it helps in the conduct of hostilities. Or not.
        1. 0
          19 May 2023 19: 34
          Quote: A vile skeptic
          Strategically, it’s like shelling FAU-1; 2 London in WWII 3 Reich for Kyiv now ...
          They killed a lot of people, but the 3rd Reich did not achieve the military goals at all in this matter ....
          So for Kyiv - they will put a certain number of Donetsk residents, but this will not bring them any military victories.

          Incorrect comparison. Fau was not accurate, unlike. You ask the people of Lugansk what was there where the rockets flew. And then already draw a conclusion, it helps in the conduct of hostilities. Or not.

          Slowly - since Donetsk has not been taken after 8 years of shelling - it means STRATEGICALLY this does not help Kyiv at all.
          Just like the shelling of London by the FAA ..
          They killed then and killed now thousands of civilians - they did not achieve a military effect. They do not care about civilians - but the goal (to return the Donbass) for 8 years was not nearly fulfilled by them ....
  7. +8
    18 May 2023 06: 38
    You need to throw less hats, otherwise it will be like last time.

    1. 0
      18 May 2023 23: 59
      You need to throw less hats, otherwise it will be like last time.

      What an unenthusiastic way of thinking you have! laughing
      Who will remember the old ... and without continuation, please!
      Here the audience, I remember, loudly welcomed the supply of Western g ... weapons - there will be something to study for our secret physicists!
      True, both the guys on the front line and the residents of Lugansk are participating in the study - but this is a side effect.
      However, what am I ... Who will remember the old ...
  8. +4
    18 May 2023 07: 02
    This means that in the very near future the carriers of these missiles - the F-16, the Eurofighter Typhoon - are on their way to Ukraine.
  9. -2
    18 May 2023 07: 20
    High-tech enemy weapons cannot be underestimated.
    The only thing that gives us the opportunity to win is that there is now a military conflict in the format of a war of industrial states.
    Russia and Ukraine are in a state of countries with a degraded industrial structure.
    The US bloc is a state with a post-industrial way of life.
    Russia can restore its industrial potential.
    The US bloc has already crossed this line, there is no turning back.
    Therefore, we may be hit hard at our vulnerable points, but in the end, with the right measures, we are able to win an industrial-type war.
    Our strength lies in dispersal, active use of the advantage in natural resources, compensation for their advantage in high-precision weapons.
    Their weakness is the extreme high cost of their weapons, which are designed to intimidate countries with a pre-industrial way of life.
    1. +6
      18 May 2023 08: 11
      The US bloc is a state with a post-industrial way of life.

      The United States brought out the dirtiest productions, this is true, but their mechanical engineering is quite developed, for example, there are as many as 15 truck manufacturers, they have a Boeing concern, as well as a bunch of manufacturers of small aircraft of the AN level, and the Russian Federation is not able to notice the old Soviet AN.
      Russia can restore its industrial potential

      It is doubtful that compradors and effective ones can create something worthwhile. I repeat that for 30 years there is no regional aircraft.
      Those remnants of the industry in the post-industrial way of the United States are so extensive that against their background the industry of the Russian Federation looks at the level of Nigeria.
      1. +3
        18 May 2023 10: 39
        I repeat that for 30 years there is no regional aircraft

        and is not expected ... moreover, during the 15 months of the war, all the "guilty" remained in their warm places, and not a single necessary production was launched!
      2. +2
        18 May 2023 10: 53
        We cannot even equal the United States alone, if only because there are 330 million people there, while we do not have even 150 million. I'm not talking about the whole NATO bloc. There's a billion.
    2. +3
      19 May 2023 00: 05
      The US bloc is a state with a post-industrial way of life.
      Russia can restore its industrial potential.
      The US bloc has already crossed this line, there is no turning back.

      But ... hi
      I need to tie my jaw...
      For example, your estimate for the recovery of the electronics industry is how many generations?
      And how many generations for the electronics industry in the United States to post-industrialize to our level? All these factories are TI, Analog Devices, Microchip...
      About the automotive industry - keep quiet, keep quiet ...
  10. -5
    18 May 2023 08: 43
    Hollow out the remnants of the Armed Forces aviation, the airfield network, the only way out. The weapon is at least specific, but it can bring damage
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  13. -1
    18 May 2023 12: 23
    about these deliveries. Imagine if, on the contrary, Russia supplied someone with similar weapons to the belligerent against the United States, England and other mongrels, then what would be their reaction?
    1. +1
      19 May 2023 07: 11
      ...then what would be their reaction?

      The reaction is determined by the possibilities ... No.
      "I want to buy a house - but I don't have the opportunity!
      I can buy a goat - but I have no desire!
      So let's drink to ensure that our desires coincide with our capabilities!
  14. 0
    18 May 2023 12: 55
    Until the 404th is given Western fighters, these missiles will be used to a limited extent - the Su-24 can use them, the Su-27 too (theoretically), but the Su-25, MiG-29 and helicopters cannot. It is a great happiness that the 404s have few letaks. But if f-16s come, the situation will change.
    1. +4
      18 May 2023 13: 12
      Will give. Don't go to grandma.

      As of 2016, Lithuania was the only state that supplied elements of lethal weapons as part of assistance.

      March-April 2022 only non-lethal MANPADS and ATGMs
      the import of the following goods has been simplified: plates for body armor, non-civilian portable radio stations, non-civilian UAVs and quadrocopters, non-civilian binoculars, optical tubes and monoculars, non-civilian optical sights, as well as thermal imagers and night vision devices

      May 2022
      funds for fuel; medicines; body armor; winter clothes; equipment to counter mines, chemical and biological threats; as well as portable anti-missile weapons

      June even Australia
      14 M113 armored personnel carriers, 20 Bushmaster armored personnel carriers,

      Further ascending
      Arta, rszo, himars, ammunition, air defense systems, prr, tanks, cruise missiles
      There will be
      F-16, tanks of the latest modification, I won’t be surprised if submarines ship a couple of frigates
  15. +5
    18 May 2023 14: 03
    The British product Storm Shadow and the French SCALP-EG are actually the same missile.

    And why then Ryabov Kirill writes a third article about the same thing?
  16. +2
    18 May 2023 14: 05
    Quote from Frettaskyrandi
    an adequate person could give out to the mountain only in four cases

    And you can combine. Pick up the RFP at two cash desks
  17. -5
    18 May 2023 15: 21
    In order to scalp pork, you need to scalp yourself laughing
  18. +1
    18 May 2023 16: 16
    Quote: VLVL
    about these deliveries. Imagine if, on the contrary, Russia supplied someone with similar weapons to the belligerent against the United States, England and other mongrels, then what would be their reaction?

    Calm, one must assume, in Vietnam, the Americans did not grind their tongues about the red lines, by the way, even Soviet ships in Vietnamese ports were forbidden to attack.
    1. 0
      18 May 2023 16: 47
      by the way, even Soviet ships in Vietnamese ports were forbidden to attack.

      Still, there were no exceptions.
      On one occasion, then even a joint Soviet-Vietnamese feature film was shot.
  19. +3
    18 May 2023 17: 17
    "However, it can already be assumed that such assistance will actually be useless" - made in Ryabov.
  20. 0
    19 May 2023 21: 58
    So, quietly, the West handed over artillery first, then MLRS, tanks, today they already write that they have agreed on the supply of F16 and missiles, expect tactical nuclear weapons tomorrow?
  21. 0
    22 July 2023 16: 16
    What are we waiting for ? What do we want? By our actions we artificially keep the Armed Forces of Ukraine afloat And also, for some reason, we gave away the lands that they took with blood All this is just a game of a protracted conflict so that more people can easily And famous people will rub their hands and rejoice It was possible to fuck long ago in this miserable country and it was all over.
  22. 0
    7 September 2023 23: 16
    A lot of noodles, water, aquaculture, and that's all, bye. What are these articles about?
  23. 0
    5 November 2023 09: 58
    Enough to say that missiles, tanks, planes, etc. will be useless for everyone. Stop treating your readers like idiots. Everything you call useless is killing our military en masse; and also all this useless does not allow you to finish your work