The need to create the Strategic Conventional Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

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The need to create the Strategic Conventional Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
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Most citizens of the Russian Federation (RF) remember the first hours, the first days after the start of the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine - “During the night, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation delivered a strike with high-precision weapons Long-Range Air- and Sea-Launched Cruise Missiles against Ukrainian Military Infrastructure...”, “Ukrainian Air Defense Forces Were Suppressed...”, “High-precision Weapons Disable Military Infrastructure: Military Airfields, aviation, air defense facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine...".



Then there were significant losses, the extent of which we have yet to find out, there was a retreat that looked like a flight, shamefacedly called a “regrouping”, as a result of which the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) presented the enemy with a lot of equipment, including the latest, there were strikes by armed forces of Ukraine (APU) on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant (NPP) and a few, but painful strikes deep into the territory of the Russian Federation.

Russia responded to this by launching tens to hundreds of cruise missiles (CR), and in addition to them, hundreds, if not thousands of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Geran-2 kamikaze. First, strikes were made on fuel storage facilities, it was said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were about to be left without fuel, then on railway junctions, on railway tracks and traction substations - “Hurray, the supply of reinforcements to the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been stopped!”, then strikes on the energy infrastructure - for several weeks there were power outages in several large cities of Ukraine ...

Is it possible to say that the damage caused to the enemy is commensurate with the resources expended? Or did the swing go for a ruble, and the blow for a penny?

Rather, the second, at least at the beginning of the NWO, however, judging by the latest resonant "arrivals", the planning of strikes with long-range precision weapons (WTO) began to be carried out much more carefully.

Why can there be problems with the use of long-range HTO?

Reasons for inefficiency


Currently, long-range precision weapons are distributed by type of armed forces. The Ground Forces (SV) of the Russian Federation are armed with operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK) "Iskander", on surface ships and submarines of the Russian Naval fleet (Navy) deploys cruise missiles of the Kalibr complex, strategic bombers-missile carriers of the Military Space Forces (VKS) of the Russian Federation carry long-range cruise missiles X-555 and X-101. I wonder who is in charge of the Geran-2 UAV?


KR of the Kalibr complex, KR X-101 on the Tu-95MSM bomber-missile carrier, Iskander OTRK and the Kinzhal hypersonic aeroballistic missile on the MiG-31K carrier

Of course, the actions of all types of armed forces should be coordinated by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, that is, theoretically, all available forces and means should be used, based on the need to achieve strategic goals and objectives, in the interests of the RF Armed Forces as a whole. However, in reality, when distributing orders for delivering strikes, each type of armed forces will “pull the blanket” on itself - it is more interesting for the Aerospace Forces to destroy aviation at airfields, air defense systems (air defense), radar stations (RLS) as much as possible; it is more important for the ground forces to strike at the bases and depots of equipment and weapons of the enemy ground forces, fuel depots, and barracks; the fleet, accordingly, has its own logic of striking.

As a result, a certain compromise is born, the goals for the long-range WTO are distributed taking into account the interests of all parties, as a result of which the concentration of forces and the systematic use of the WTO disappear. An analogy can be made here with the use of tanks During the Second World War. Some "smeared" tanks in infantry units, others formed powerful tank wedges - the result is known, only the concentration of forces made it possible to carry out a "blitzkrieg", to wage a high-intensity mobile war.

High-precision long-range weapons are tank wedges of the XNUMXst century.

When implementing system planning, the massive use of high-precision long-range weapons makes it possible to inflict a strategic defeat on the enemy, both without the direct entry of ground forces into its territory, and without the use of manned aircraft over its territory.

By strategic defeat, we do not mean victory in the war, but "zugzwang" - a situation where the enemy can no longer win, any of his actions will still lead to defeat.

To ensure the systematic, highly effective massive use of long-range precision weapons "with a single goal, according to a single plan" it is necessary to create a new type / type of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - Strategic Conventional Forces (SCS).

In what format SCS should exist - as the fourth branch of the RF Armed Forces or the third branch of the RF Armed Forces - is an open question.

In general, the task of the Strategic Conventional Forces can be formulated as follows: inflicting damage on the enemy, significantly reducing its organizational, industrial and military capabilities from a distance, minimizing or eliminating the likelihood of a direct combat clash with the enemy’s armed forces.

Strategic conventional forces should provide:

1. Determination of targets for long-range HTO strikes with a clear prediction of results.

2. Delivering long-range air defense strikes in accordance with paragraph 1, operation and ensuring the effective use of relevant weapons, military and special equipment (AMSST).

3. Supervise the development and creation of advanced weapons and military equipment, which will then be operated and applied in accordance with clause 2.

Let's consider the above tasks in more detail.

Choice of goals


If we are talking about defining targets for delivering long-range air defense strikes with a clear prediction of results, then there should be a clear understanding of what task we are solving, what consequences its solution will lead to, what outfit of forces and means is needed to carry it out.

For example, the task is destruction of the power grids of Ukraine, for this, all possible targets are determined throughout the territory of Ukraine - power plants, substations, power lines (power lines) and so on. Calculations are being made of the required number of high-precision weapons to hit the identified targets.

The terms are determined in which the enemy can restore destroyed targets to restore the operation of the power grid, and even for the same types of objects, the recovery time may be different, for example, restoring a power line in a field near a large city can take less than a day, but restoring the same power line somewhere in mountainous terrain, over rivers, may take much longer. It is necessary to provide an understanding of which network nodes must be hit first in order to cause a cascading destruction of power networks. How can the enemy interfere with us, how much can he potentially reduce the effectiveness of strikes.

Based on the results, there should be a clear understanding of which part of Ukraine and for how long can be de-energized, for example, we estimate that with the available resources we can disable the right-bank electric power infrastructure of Ukraine and maintain it in this condition for six months.


Railway map of Ukraine - knowing the infrastructure of the enemy, you can understand to what extent and how much we can disable it

Another option is the destruction of the VKS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Everything is more complicated here, it is necessary to take into account the possibility of relocating potential targets, the use of mock-ups and other decoys by the enemy. Take into account the intervention of NATO countries, which will promptly notify the Armed Forces of Ukraine about waves of cruise missiles and other means of air attack.

Or we need to disrupt the call from the enemy - military enlistment offices, cellular communication switches, passport offices, data processing centers, and so on and so forth are knocked out. Or maybe a goal knock out the entire leadership of the enemy country, down to the grassroots levels of government.

The RF SCS should have thousands of such plans, for different countries, for different groups of goals, hundreds of strategies for one country, with various combinations.

Striking


We have already spoken about the SCS and the types of weapons that they can use in the materials “Strategic conventional weapons. Damage" и "Strategic Conventional Forces: Carriers and Weapons".

Some types of weapons that can be used by the SCS already exist, for example, strategic bombers missile carriers with cruise and aeroballistic missiles or nuclear submarines - carriers of cruise missiles.


SSGN - nuclear submarines with cruise missiles can be an effective tool for SCS

There are two problems - subordination and provision. Regarding the issue of subordination - what if a strategic bomber belongs to the Aerospace Forces, and the long-range cruise missiles it uses belong to the SCS? The same with ships and submarines, they themselves belong to the Navy, and their weapons to the SCS?

Most likely, the answer will be in the interaction of the SCS with other branches of the RF Armed Forces, just as it is implemented in the structures related to the strategic nuclear forces (SNF). For example, the Russian Navy fully ensures the life cycle of strategic missile submarines, but it is clearly not the fleet that determines the targets for nuclear warheads (nuclear warheads) of submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs). Similarly, the life cycle of strategic missile-carrying bombers is provided by the aerospace forces, but the targets for long-range cruise missiles with nuclear warheads are chosen at a completely different level.

Thus, within the framework of the interaction of the Russian SCS with the Russian Navy and the Russian Aerospace Forces, the latter should ensure the operation of long-range weapon carriers, while the targets for them should be chosen by the RF SCS. At the same time, the ground component of the SCS may be under their direct control, by analogy with the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN).

Such interaction can carry certain problems, however, it is vitally important for the RF Armed Forces to improve horizontal ties between the branches and branches of the armed forces, to ensure highly effective interaction between various command and control structures, which we previously discussed in detail in the material "Multi-domain forces - a new level of integration of the types of armed forces".

As for support, it primarily means the provision of intelligence information, as well as navigation and communication systems - we also spoke about this in detail in the material "Critical systems that provide strikes with long-range precision-guided munitions".

Within the framework of the principles of building multi-domain forces, information from various intelligence structures should be received by the SCS of the Russian Federation. Also, there are no obstacles for the RF SCS to have its own means of space reconnaissance, control and communications. It is unlikely that it will be possible to create a separate navigation system for SCS, although, for example, in the USA they considered (are considering?) the possibility of using Starlink communication satellites for navigation.

Development and creation of advanced weapons and military equipment


Long-range cruise missiles, operational-tactical missiles and aeroballistic missiles are just the tip of the iceberg, only a small part of the weapons that can potentially be used by the Strategic Conventional Forces. Suffice it to recall the same Geran-2 kamikaze UAVs, which actually became the discovery of the SVO - after all, this weapon is quite difficult to surpass in terms of the "cost-effectiveness" criterion - potentially Kamikaze UAVs of the "Geran-2" type can be produced in such significant quantities that the effect of their use will be comparable to the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

Within the framework of the SCS, weapons models can be developed that, together, can radically change the situation on the battlefield. For example, these may be planning kamikaze UAVs of the Condor project, as cheap as possible, produced in hundreds of thousands a year, launched from converted military transport aircraft (VTA).


Project UAV-kamikaze "Condor" - death from heaven

Or could it be "aircraft-shells" of the XXI century, converted from old cargo and transport aircraft located at storage bases or ready to be sent to them, equipped with means of homing to a target by coordinates and a warhead of increased power with the equivalent of several tons - tens of tons of TNT.

Similar complexes can be created on the basis of obsolete surface ships - dry cargo ships or tankers that can deliver thousands (tens of thousands) tons of explosives to the target, wiping ports and coastal cities off the face of the Earth. A autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles (AUVs), created on the basis of diesel-electric submarines (DEPL) ready for decommissioning, can destroy enemy naval bases and coastal infrastructure.

To strike the first inevitable blow can be used intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and SLBMs equipped with a conventional warhead, which otherwise could simply be disposed of. More complex and promising weapons - use of reusable missiles as an economical solution for a rapid global strike through planning hypersonic warheads.


Funnel, presumably from FAB-3000. The same may be at the site of an enemy enterprise that produces unmanned kamikaze boats designed to strike at the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy, when striking an ICBM with a conventional warhead

No matter how exotic it may sound, the SCS may also cybernetic weapons of mass destruction - So far, there have been no cases of its use in Ukraine, and yet this type of weapon has a huge potential, and for the use of this weapon it is not required to invade enemy territory, which is exactly in line with the principles of the use of SCS.

There are many more promising weapons systems suitable for acceptance into the supply of the Strategic Conventional Forces of the Russian Federation, and from time to time we will return to their consideration.

Conclusions


The need to create the Strategic Conventional Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation has been long overdue, at least a few years ago, or even more. Either we will learn to beat the enemy "in an adult way", using all the available technical and technological advantages, or we will have more than one mobilization and many victims that could well have been avoided if we did not rely on infantry and artillery (their widespread use in in the course of the NMD is just a necessary measure) but on the systemic development and massive use of strategic conventional weapons.

The doctrine of General Douai meant the destruction of cities and the destruction of the enemy population from the air, without the entry of ground forces into its territory. Strategic conventional forces are not intended to destroy cities and will not always be able to achieve victory “alone”, however, it is the actions of the SCS that should lead to the fact that the enemy will no longer have a chance to win.
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  1. +8
    19 May 2023 03: 45
    The need to create the Strategic Conventional Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation has been long overdue, at least a few years ago, or even more. Either we will learn to beat the enemy "in an adult way", using all the available technical and technological advantages, or we will have more than one mobilization and many victims that could well have been avoided if we did not rely on infantry and artillery (their widespread use in in the course of the NMD is just a necessary measure) but on the systemic development and massive use of strategic conventional weapons.
    sounds reasonable, but how to bring it to life? It seems to me that MO has become concretely ossified.
    1. +1
      21 May 2023 13: 36
      1. Determination of targets for long-range HTO strikes with a clear prediction of results.

      The author has not heard about "operational management", "operational departments" in headquarters at all levels? Planning, preparing and conducting the operation(s) is one thing. And the instructions of the corporatocracy at all stages of the operation are different, but all the same, the ossified yesterday's military are to blame ...
  2. +4
    19 May 2023 04: 16
    Everything suggested by the author should have been created and worked several decades ago.
    1. +8
      19 May 2023 05: 18
      Quote: Nicola
      Everything suggested by the author should have been created and worked several decades ago.

      Yes, everything listed by the author should have been with us yesterday ... I want to swear not with good words.
      I remember how the future of UAVs, military space reconnaissance, communications, etc. was discussed at VO with great creak five years ago ... few people imagined their current capabilities and the consequences of lagging behind in this matter ... and so on in many positions in article of the author ... and now we are sitting on the forum and scratching our turnips in amazement ... how is it.
      It turns out that tank biathlon is absolutely not enough to defeat the enemy.
    2. +6
      19 May 2023 09: 10
      Good morning .
      Now they stick minuses to me for what I will write below, but they are somehow to my side, I read VO not for the sake of pluses.
      Dear colleagues, it seems to me that the jokes are over, and it's time to rename this special operation into a war. To do this, declare martial law in Russia.
      Whether someone likes it or not.
      But to look at what happened and is just ashamed.
      After a good sort of start, they retreated on all fronts.
      Mutual work between MO and Wagner does not work at all. There must be a pest somewhere.
      Is it really impossible to sit down and talk openly, to remove all obstacles?
      Either you need to collect all the resources and win, or a shameful peace will be concluded, but victory will be announced.
      This is to avoid losing face.
      Have a nice day everyone.
      1. -4
        19 May 2023 13: 03
        To declare war, it is necessary to formulate 2 theses:
        1) with whom we are fighting:
        2) what is victory.
        If we assume that we are at war with Ukraine, then there will be a logical error in the second thesis - how to win? Victory over Ukraine is even theoretically impossible, in Russia there are simply not so many people who would completely control the entire territory of Ukraine. And without control of the entire territory, this conflict will be endlessly fueled from across the ocean and Europe.
        Accordingly, another subject is needed, who? Are we at war with the West? And how to win? Putin himself said that it was impossible to defeat NATO with conventional weapons. This means that in order to win, it is necessary to deliver the first nuclear strike. Who needs it? Nobody. Zungzwang has already arrived, but not for the other side. We just have to do what we have to do and expect what will happen. And pray.
        1. 0
          19 May 2023 19: 37
          Quote: Vincent Price
          Victory over Ukraine is even theoretically impossible

          Disagree. In general, as we remember from history, most conflicts end not with the capture of the capital, but with the defeat of the army. And then, it all depends on the goals and objectives. If the goal is to liberate the East and reach the Dnieper, then this is real. But it requires more grouping (and it is clearly increasing) and time.
      2. +5
        19 May 2023 19: 33
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Now they stick minuses to me for what I will write below, but they are somehow to my side, I read VO not for the sake of pluses.

        No. It is most likely now that the minusers will downvote for the opinion voiced below :) For the topic is burning and all normal citizens want the speedy victory of Russia and its Armed Forces.

        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Dear colleagues, it seems to me that the jokes are over, and it's time to rename this special operation into a war

        How many countries after 45 declared war on each other? This is not as easy as you think to do after the formation of the UN.
        In general, the complexity and effectiveness of the conflict does not depend on the name, but problems may arise:

        1. In terms of international law - no matter how flawed it is now, but its appearance must be observed because there are risks of losing the right to veto and the use of force majeure under foreign economic contracts from gas / oil to ordinary goods.

        2. Next, what will change? The embezzler will stop stealing, and the pest will mischief? No. We look at the example of the Second World War - as there were pests and embezzlers of state funds, they remained and they had to be identified by the competent authorities.
        "Stalin's blows" will immediately go - also not. During the Second World War, they went only after the accumulation of forces and means (shells, equipment, intelligence data, training of troops).
        Will there be an ideology? Also no.
        Will the economy get stronger? Also no. Quite the contrary, with the introduction of EP throughout the country, the number of persons who will try to apply force majeure will increase.
        Mobilization will be carried out? No, she doesn't depend on it. Moreover, now there is a recruitment of volunteers and the numbers desired and announced by the country's leadership are generally achievable and exceed the number of those mobilized.

        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        Is it really impossible to sit down and talk openly, remove all obstacles

        No, that won't work. This did not work out even during the years of the Soviet-Finnish and during the Second World War. This despite the fact that then the feedback and efficiency were many times higher.

        There will be peace exactly when the AFRF grinds the maximum amount of the enemy’s military resources - from Ukrainian manpower to external supplies (from American-British-Polish-French weapons to materiel).
      3. +2
        20 May 2023 00: 16
        What for? And who needs it? To you? To me? Another handful of patriots (in a good sense of the word), those who sit on this site? I’m judging by society (well, I’m a cynic, what can you do) I’m not sure that society needs this and it will accept it, especially for young people who grew up on YouTube and Tik -
        Currents. On the site, as I understand it, mostly generations born, raised, lived in the USSR. That's noticeable. I do not think that Martial Law will change anything drastically. For this, it is necessary that the whole system be ready for this, society is ready. And so it will come out sorry, one zilch, another shaking of the air and imitation of activity in the reports of officials.
      4. +6
        20 May 2023 00: 23
        Read the documents on the declaration of martial law. During martial law, the state will have to provide its citizens with at least food, for which a distribution system based on a rationing system will be introduced, and secondly, the state will be able to take property and vehicles from citizens for military needs. You just say mantras about war and martial law without understanding what it will lead to and that your life will change dramatically beyond recognition. Ask yourself are you willing to work 12 hours in a factory for cards for bread and staples? Are you ready to give away your personal car? Are you ready to receive government bonds instead of salaries? The answer I think will be obvious. War will be declared if the Ukrainians reach the Crimea. That's when we all stand in line at the military registration and enlistment offices, and then it will definitely not be SVO
  3. +7
    19 May 2023 05: 13
    Then there were significant losses, the extent of which we have yet to learn, there was a retreat, like a flight, shamefacedly called "regrouping",

    For some reason I remembered:
    "An army of rams led by a lion will always triumph over an army of lions led by a ram."
    (N. Bonaparte)
    1. +2
      19 May 2023 10: 44
      And before him - Cicero, and before him - someone from Macedonian, and before him .... Not counting a bunch of Arabic, Chinese, Roman sayings ....
  4. +10
    19 May 2023 05: 13
    Lord! There are bridges and railways. we can’t destroy the path, but they swung at the SCS! To begin with, "reconcile" the Wagnerites with the MO.
  5. +13
    19 May 2023 05: 17
    What will change from the addition of another fashionable name in the troops? Will new people come, will the command structure in the army change completely, will new weapons be developed? Will they come up with new ways of reconnaissance? Nothing will change. What you wrote is called "Flexible Management System". If it does not exist, then similar empty proposals arise on the creation of a new kind of troops (although the tasks will be solved by the same means). When you want to start producing a new brand of sweets at a confectionery factory, do you create a new department for this, hire other people, buy other equipment? no, you create a working group, appoint a leader, give it existing resources (powers) and set a task. After the task is completed, the group is disbanded. Strategic operations can be not only land, but also sea, air, space, social, information. For each operation, you need to select a new team and the appropriate means.
    1. +18
      19 May 2023 05: 27
      Well, what are you saying, this could be a real reform in our style: a new participant in the parade will appear, and new wonderful generals, and a new uniform ... in vain you are so!
      1. 0
        20 May 2023 09: 19
        That's right!!! God forbid that these nonsense fall into the initiative fool in the Moscow Region or the General Staff. Well, what a field of activity for those who do not lift their ass out of their chair.
        Oh ... but you will definitely like it ...
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  6. +6
    19 May 2023 06: 09
    Yeah ... already passed. Well, they united the Air Force, Air Defense and Space Forces ... What? Improved quality? It all depends on science and technology, and not on what strategy or name the former foremen choose
    You can't eliminate the human factor. By the way, a long silence on the "accident" in the Bryansk region.
  7. Eug
    +12
    19 May 2023 06: 09
    As for me, the idea itself is wrong - to create a new structure for the task instead of making the existing ones work properly. Only the mess and "general" posts will increase.
    1. +5
      19 May 2023 06: 41
      so for this, in fact, new structures are always being created))) we have an experimental site of the Research Institute of Subtropical Crops there for all 30 years that I have been observing it, forty bushes of tea have been planted, and it is either called Dagomys or Krasnodar, although it is neither one nor the other geographically profitability by newfangled speaking growingly negative, but at the same time there is a tractor accountant of the head of the personnel officer plus a watchman as many as four and seasonal hard workers, although the latter never bothered with the FBS horses they send convicts to them))) you can see the object of painting with the naked eye and nothing it is still under the Soviets glasses rubbed and now copes and there are probably thousands of such around the country
    2. +10
      19 May 2023 07: 52
      Only the mess and "general" posts will increase.
      Well, now the official text from the MoD is being read by a lieutenant general! And during the Great Patriotic War, an untrained ordinary Levitan read out. There is progress.
      1. +2
        19 May 2023 09: 55
        And during the Great Patriotic War, an untrained ordinary Levitan read out.

        You are not right! An ordinary untrained Levitan read texts that the wise Jew Solomon Abramovich Lozovsky wrote to him, and which I.V. Stalin himself sometimes edited.
        The texts for General Konashenkov are written by one of the accountants of General of the Army Tatyana Shevtsova, and no one else reads them except him.
        And for several months now, no one has been listening to these texts, with the exception of the media under the jurisdiction of the RF Ministry of Defense. crying
    3. 0
      19 May 2023 10: 45
      This is the "special way" wink
  8. -1
    19 May 2023 06: 16
    Today, the Russian Armed Forces have VKS without legs and eyes on the ground and Airborne Forces without air support. It is not known how necessary the SCS is, but the rapprochement of the Airborne Forces and the Aerospace Forces suggests itself. Undoubtedly, the development of space reconnaissance and space communications should be a priority. Bringing the level of training of the military personnel of the Airborne Forces to the provision of target designation of the airborne forces with an adequate feedback will allow, to a large extent, to solve the tasks listed by the author of the article. Problems of SVO in target designation. To ensure high-quality target designation, the Russian Armed Forces have VKS and Airborne Forces, which are underdeveloped, imperfect and used for other purposes. At least for now. When the cooperation between the Aerospace Forces and the Airborne Forces shows results, in the form of high-quality target designation, then missilemen and gunners will reach out to them for help and support.
    1. +2
      19 May 2023 06: 50
      But how does the Airborne Force provide target designation in a modern conflict?
      1. +2
        19 May 2023 16: 00
        But how does the Airborne Force provide target designation in a modern conflict?

        A dude in a beret and a vest will jump out over Lvov, and will wander around the city with a dragging parachute behind his back, looking for targets and calling back the coordinates on the mobile phone to Frunzenskaya. laughing ))
        Apparently that's how the commenter sees it.

        In fact, the guys are already there, someone is already providing target designation. bully

        Only these are not bestial, pumped-up airborne officers from Ryazan, but quiet, sickly pensioners, natives of their places, kind family men and ardent supporters of Independent Ukraine. In words. wink
  9. +1
    19 May 2023 06: 52
    Before creating new organizational structures, it is necessary to create a new technical basis. In the current situation, these are interspecific systems of reconnaissance and target designation, communications and control.
  10. +1
    19 May 2023 06: 53
    An attempt to create an alternatively gifted Strategic Force without nuclear weapons would require dozens of times more delivery vehicles and hundreds of times more warheads. An example is the massive bombing of Germany.
    Moreover, the victory over a weak opponent will cause a monstrous cost overrun, and an attempt to fight with an equal opponent will result in huge losses. Moreover, the enemy equipped with half of the carriers we have and a quarter of the units of charges, but nuclear ones, will undoubtedly win.
  11. +13
    19 May 2023 07: 06
    What a nonsense. We already have strategic forces, why create a duplicate structure if the only question is which warhead to put on a specific carrier. And how will two different types of aircraft coordinate this with each other? Or the author proposes to start another arms race by creating another strategic force, with its carriers. All you need is nothing, a couple of thousand more ICBMs with all launchers and related infrastructure, drugs, headquarters, and the like. And the navel will not untie?
    1. 0
      19 May 2023 10: 00
      All you need is nothing, a couple of thousand more ICBMs

      We need not a couple of thousand ICBMs (for which there is no money), but a couple of hundred new generals, for the maintenance of which money will be found. And of course a new type of competition - "ICBM Biathlon". drinks
    2. 0
      19 May 2023 10: 48
      What a nonsense.

      But in the trend)). Instead of a normal DLRO, we will build a flying hedgehog, covering it with antennas from fighters, instead of the normal organization and training of defense structures, we will come up with new general positions ....
  12. +1
    19 May 2023 07: 25
    In the proposed one, one can find what can be called “military ideology”, after all, the emphasis is on the sum of technical points. We have been in endless "reforms" for 30 years. Changes are needed, but the big question is in the information sources of management.
  13. +3
    19 May 2023 09: 24
    To deliver the first inevitable strike, intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and SLBMs equipped with a conventional warhead can be used.
    The adversary's early warning system cannot determine whether there are nuclear charges on the BR or not. It captures the fact of launching ballistic missiles and calculates their flight path. As soon as the launch is completed, the US nuclear triad and the SSBNs of Great Britain and France will be transferred to the highest degree of combat readiness, and with a high probability they can fire at us with vigorous loaves. Therefore, when launching a BR, the opposite side is always warned so that there are no incidents, as on January 25, 1995. with the launch of the Norwegian Black Brant XII meteorological missile, which was erroneously identified as a Trident ICBM. We were not warned about this launch, and our warning system worked 100%, thank God, we figured it out. And if not? And it was not a mass, but a single launch.
  14. +4
    19 May 2023 10: 55
    Yes, the bottom is breaking through again. The article is the fantasy of a schoolboy who has no idea about reality. Take this paragraph.

    Or it can be “projectiles” of the XNUMXst century, converted from old cargo and transport aircraft located at storage bases or ready to be sent to them, equipped with means of homing to a target by coordinates and a warhead of increased power with the equivalent of several tons - tens of tons TNT.


    The author, there are no cargo planes, only transport ones.
    And further, have you seen a lot of them at our storage bases? Yes, they fly with us until they fall apart. And the fact that the same goes as storage is approximately in this form.

    If you don't know, I'll explain. The aircraft is decommissioned according to the airframe resource. But this does not mean that the entire aircraft is written off completely. As soon as the car was sentenced, the technical composition of the unit immediately removes from it everything that has a resource and that is useful for flying cars. And what remains for some time is stored until it is cut into a non-ferrous metal.
    And we have only about forty such IL-76s. We do not have the United States, where they allowed themselves to store entire VTA aircraft, and not the USSR, where there were bases for storing decommissioned equipment.
    And the main question is, where will such a UAV fly? He will be overwhelmed on approach to the border.
    Do you think when expensive cruise missiles were created they were fools? And then they do not give a guarantee of overcoming air defense.
    There is nothing to even talk about the Condor project. It won't fly.
  15. +2
    19 May 2023 10: 57
    Yeah, the good old Douai concept, in a new way. Not even funny, crap in WWII. Everything mentioned in the article works if the enemy is frightened and mentally ready to surrender. Like Serbs. And if not - like Bandera, then long-range precision weapons are absolutely useless. It would seem that the first Ukrainian campaign convincingly proved this. Countless missile raids affect the course of the war in almost no way, but chimeras and upabs have a very serious effect. It is quite clear that in a serious war, calibers without special warheads are a waste of money. It is necessary to invest in air defense, communications, intelligence and ground weapons. But leave it for conflicts of low intensity, where they can play a significant role.
  16. Cat
    +8
    19 May 2023 11: 31
    Interestingly, the author read Murphy's laws on the principles of reproduction of bureaucratic structures?
  17. +1
    19 May 2023 11: 44
    You can, of course, dream up like that - to collect all long-range strike weapons in one structure. But what will happen next?
    To plan a strike, you need to know the targets, which means you need intelligence. Create your own, strategic?
    To launch the tools, they need to be placed on the media and plan for the media to reach the line of attack. Have your carriers along with the infrastructure or beg from other types of aircraft?
    What is the principle of distributing funds according to targets, which objects are now more important to hit, where to get information from?
    At what moment to strike when it would be most appropriate?
    Only the headquarters, the General, have the answers to all these questions and the authority to make such decisions, so there is no need to invent a deliberately ineffective replacement for him, just figure out how best to explain this to him.
  18. +3
    19 May 2023 12: 10
    Quote: Gato
    Interestingly, the author read Murphy's laws on the principles of reproduction of bureaucratic structures?

    I got ahead .... fellow
  19. +1
    19 May 2023 13: 02
    Let me know how your idea will affect the quantity and quality of ammunition, how will this improve intelligence and planning, communication and interaction?
  20. +4
    19 May 2023 13: 05
    If intelligence blew the garrisons with new units, the mood of the population. If critical infrastructure is not destroyed at the time of the attack, the troops are stopped and negotiations have already begun - and at least make the Death Star.
    I am still sure that the NWO, like the Russian spring, was put on pause due to strong Soviet sentiment.
  21. -1
    19 May 2023 13: 41
    All the goals stated by the author are easier and cheaper to achieve with strategic nuclear weapons! laughing
    Those. the question is, in fact, simple: withdraw from all conventions and further develop nuclear forces or create some new troops "in case of something"? Moreover, the decision to use both will be approximately the same level. wink
    IMHO hi
  22. 0
    19 May 2023 14: 49
    Well, if they hit the sheds, then what do you want, they probably used Google maps to calculate objects on the outskirts, and this is the result of the yew. missiles in well .... at
  23. 0
    19 May 2023 17: 28
    Whatever hellish vepons are in the warehouses - if the task of destroying the enemy state structure is NOT WORTH - then, of course, it will not be solved. If it stood, there would be a purposeful removal of the "strings of the state" - the economy, supply, energy, production, organizational institutions. After that, there would no longer be a question of "grinding" - the army, having lost supplies and support for the rear, would stupidly scatter home or surrender.

    Tools for such influence also do not need to be invented - Americans have them or most of them in one form or another. These are planning bombs and an UAV fleet of different tasks and prices, and a ground-based or air-based WTO. We just need to do the same, but much cheaper, as the Chinese or Iranians, for example, can do.
  24. 0
    19 May 2023 17: 41
    well, if the minister reads the title of the article without hesitation and without syllables, then maybe it will work out ... but who will implement it? techie Borisov was urgently removed to space so that he would not look like a black sheep against the background of others. Well, what is the demand from party members?
  25. -3
    19 May 2023 19: 05
    Smart idea. God forbid, it will be implemented in our Armed Forces.
  26. 0
    20 May 2023 11: 59
    1.6 million tons of bombs were dropped on Germany. This is about 3.5 million point-to-point missiles. It will cost $ 1 trillion. And if a part is shot down, then more. You can start looking for money
  27. 0
    20 May 2023 21: 47
    Sounds great, but complete bullshit. Determination of goals and priorities for missiles will determine the direct headquarters of the operation, which apparently does not exist and, more generally, the general staff, which, if it does not, means it is not needed. There is no point in sewing a 5th leg on a dog. So Putin's chefs are already in charge.
    Centerum censo washingtonium delendam esse
  28. 0
    23 May 2023 06: 09
    The author's logic is clear: we have strategic nuclear forces, but we are embarrassed to use them. And if we had strategic conventional forces, we would have defeated them all. Firstly, cruise missiles somehow did not show that effect even in Ukraine. NATO has decent air defense will shoot them down. Bulleting ballistic missiles with a conventional warhead? Even nuclear weapons are not as effective as they seem. If all our atomic bombs are poured into Ukraine, it can and will have an effect if they reach it. And something will not reach NATO, and what will reach spread across Europe and America will not bring significant harm. And most importantly, Russia should no longer fight, even with Ukraine, especially with NATO. We cannot and do not want to fight even with Ukraine. Even the president does not want to, and whoever is sitting in the trenches does not want to. It is necessary to stop these geopolitical games for which Russia does not have the strength, but to negotiate. Forget about being a superpower and turn into a normal average country. A country in international isolation is not a superpower, but a pariah, North Korea, and maybe it will turn out worse. When the subjects of the federation think about why they should live in a country isolated from the whole world. And they will be told from the West: of course, separate yourself. And the country will not. About the USSR, too, no one thought or guessed, but once he was gone!