Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

219
Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

In Luhansk, on Republic Day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine tested their new weapon: Franco-British made Storm Shadow cruise missiles supplied by good British allies.

In general, talk that the missiles would be delivered began literally not so long ago, before that the possibilities were chewed over, and as soon as it was firmly said that Kiev would receive these missiles, the first use immediately happened. Which once again confirms that the decision was made a long time ago, and the Ukrainian military personnel underwent appropriate training.




Watching the controversy unfolding on the Web, he shrugged his shoulders: well, tell me, what the hell is Thunder? If it was released, then in a single copy for testing, the results of which were not a single letter. I don’t want to talk about Grom-2, it’s Dom-2, but in the Ukrainian manner.

Therefore, I will not repeat the tales of some “SuperHaymars” or OTRK “Thunder”, we have a delivered Storm Shadow, which, according to its performance characteristics, could easily fly to Lugansk.

And, by the way, now not only to Lugansk.


Well, plus the discovery in Luhansk of a decoy missile for cruise missiles, a regular American decoy, suggests that the Ukrainians were equipped, equipped and trained from the heart.

The only thing that causes thought so far is how Storm Shadow has been used and will continue to be used. There is one snag here, to which there is no clear answer yet, but something will come up in the process.

So, Storm Shadow or "Shadow of the Storm", a stealthy long-range cruise missile of joint British-French development. It has been developed since 1994 by engineers from Matra and British Aerospace. The missile has been in service since 2001. French version of the name SCALP-EG.


The rocket is frankly successful. It was tested by combat in 2003 in the Persian Gulf zone, it is exported to everyone, more than 3 missiles have been manufactured to date. This is to the question of how many such missiles Ukraine can get. A lot of.

In France, on the basis of Storm Shadow, they created the MdCN ship- and submarine-based cruise missile. "Caliber" with French origin, although the rocket is more like the Kh-101.

Features of the Storm Shadow rocket


The missile was originally designed as a stealth. In fact, Storm Shadow is close to the Russian Kh-101 strategic cruise missile, which was also created taking into account technologies for reducing radar visibility and also for aviation carriers. In stealth, the French and the British were able to, the rocket is really difficult to detect. But not impossible. In 2018, such missiles hit the Him Shingshar facility near Homs in Syria, and representatives of the Syrian army announced that all eight Storm Shadows were shot down.

Then the press services of all participants in the raid unanimously began to accuse the Syrians of false information, but in Moscow, at a press conference, the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry demonstrated parts of the Storm Shadow missile in a condition that excluded combat undermining. That is, downed.

The second feature of the Storm Shadow is its low flight profile. The missile flies to the target at an altitude of 30-40 meters. A rocket in flight bends around the terrain and can change direction. Along with stealth, this makes it difficult for Storm Shadow to be detected and intercepted by air defenses.

The third feature of the rocket is a tandem or dual warhead - the BROACH (Bomb Royal Ordnance Augmented CHarge) warhead. We know how tandem ammunition works. The first part is a penetrating charge for the destruction of armor, concrete, earth. The second part is the main warhead, designed to hit the target behind the defense.

Storm Shadow was originally designed to hit deep-seated or fortified command posts, command posts, and communications posts. Also, the missile warhead is effective for strikes against infrastructure facilities, hangars and industrial buildings. It is very good to apply on bridges, overpasses, power plants and so on.

Basing and application



And here is where the confusion continues. The carriers of the Storm Shadow cruise missiles are the Tornado, Rafale, Mirage 2000 and Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft. These aircraft, as we understand, are not in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and even (apart from vague talk about the possible sale of the old Tornado and Mirage 2000) nothing is expected.

And here comes the question: where did you launch Storm Shadow from?

There are several options, but they are, let's say, controversial:

1. Ground Launcher


Theoretically yes, it is possible. Were the Americans able to finalize their Hymars launchers by launching GLSDB guided aerial bombs? Bombs with the help of an accelerating stage are thrown to a great height, from where they plan for a distance of up to 150 km. In theory, it is even easier to do this with an aircraft rocket by adding the first stage for launch to the design.

But this is only in theory, because in addition to the launcher, such a missile requires an entire information supply system: a control center, a target designation system that will supply the missile with location data at the first moment of launch, and orient it. Of course, it is possible to “charge” a missile with information at a decent distance from the launch site, but there is no clear information that Ukraine has any launchers capable of firing Storm Shadow.

In addition, in the ground-launched version, it is worth recalculating the range of the missile. Air launch and ground launch are slightly different things in terms of fuel consumption. The aircraft performs the role of the first stage, lifting the rocket above the ground and giving it an initial speed. In the case of a launch from the ground, everything has to be done at the expense of the main rocket engine, which cannot but affect the flight range. Physics. That is why the French naval version of Storm Shadow, MdCN, received the first stage, which allows you to separate from the ship and gain initial altitude and speed.

Therefore, you can talk about 560 km of flight, but something tells you that the real range will be less.

2. Air base


Initially, Storm Shadow can be used from Tornado IDS, Saab Gripen, Dassault Mirage 2000 and Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft. Ukraine does not have such aircraft and is not yet expected, so one of the options for using the Storm Shadow is to refine the aircraft in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

There are not many types of aircraft at the disposal of the Ukrainian Air Force: MiG-29, Su-27, Su-25 and Su-24. We immediately dismiss the attack aircraft, its design was not originally intended for bombs weighing more than 500 kg, but here 1400 ...

MiG-29.


Can. Instead of an external fuel tank. PTB takes about 1500 liters of fuel, plus the weight of the tank itself - it turns out similar, as with an accurate weight distribution - I can’t say. Naturally, alteration of the suspension system and aircraft control systems will be required.

Su-27.


Doubtful. Initially designed as a "clean" fighter, the aircraft was not designed to use such heavy ammunition. In terms of weight, the Su-27 would even lift more than one missile, but this would definitely require a large amount of work to finish the aircraft.

Su-Xnumx.


And here is quite. Beam holders BD4-U can quite easily hang THREE units of weapons weighing 1500 kg. Yes, in the original it is the FAB-1500, but this is no longer so important, because structurally the aircraft can lift such ammunition.

Plus, the Su-24 is still a two-seat bomber, so everything is easier in terms of preliminary operations.

However, no data on the conversion of Ukrainian aircraft was leaked to open sources (the Poles promised, but there was no confirmation), hence there are two scenarios for the development of events: either the aircraft were converted in compliance with the maximum levels of secrecy, or they were not Ukrainian aircraft. Both options, as you know, so-so. There is nothing good about them.

In the first case, the planes flew off somewhere and on the territory of third countries (you can even figure out a list) received the necessary equipment in the form of suspension, activation and rocket launch systems. It's not as easy as it looks, a rocket is not a bomb, it requires a little more equipment to launch than a button that releases the grips. And even then, now the bombs have gone, which are no easier to launch and escort than a rocket.

In the case of Storm Shadow, operator escort is not required, the main thing is to launch the rocket, and then it will handle everything on its own. For this, she has everything: an autonomous inertial guidance system combined with GPS (that is, there is a satellite signal - it goes along it, no - the map is in the “brains”) and the TERPROM extreme-correlation correction system on the earth's surface for a very extreme case rejection of everything. And when approaching the target area on the maps, the missile must “see” the target with the help of a thermal imaging seeker (like the Javelin) and say to itself: “It, bahem.”

The principle of "fire and forget" in action. And the operator-navigator is useful here only in terms of guiding the aircraft in order to create the most favorable conditions for the rocket to work.

In general, the questions are not simple: who, where and how converted the Su-24 of the Ukrainian Air Force. However, in our case, you can safely poke your finger at almost every European country.

The second option is perhaps no more fantastic than any of the others. Use of a "leased" aircraft and crew. From the same Royal Air Force of Great Britain. Eurofighter "Typhoon" with Storm Shadow, with a crew that does not need to be taught and trained. And with the plane, which does not need to be redone, everything has already been done.


Such a plane flew in unnoticed, quietly launched exactly two missiles, quietly flew back. The missiles, imperceptibly for our air defense, flew to Luhansk and got into the plant there. Pretty well executed plan. Criticism of our air defense? Sorry, I don't see any point in this. Especially after the events in the Bryansk region.

Could the British have done this? Yes, easily. And, leaking to the Internet even indirectly confirming this data, I will not be surprised at all. They have their own war.

How to defeat Storm Shadow?



Will have to win. It is difficult to say how many of these missiles are in the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the fact that they are there and will be used is a fact. And the fact that the Ukrainians were taught to use high-precision weapons is also, as it were, indisputable.

Storm Shadow is a nasty thing. In flight, the rocket is guided, as already mentioned, by three systems: inertial, GPS, and TERCOM (terrain maps). Plus, the rocket has a bank of maps with terrain in height and is equipped with radar altimeters.

Hence the excellent ability to fly at low and ultra-low altitudes and the ability to avoid obstacles. In addition, the use of such a system is more accurate than a conventional inertial navigation system. Well, if the flight takes place at low altitudes, then, accordingly, this makes it difficult for the missile to be detected by air defense radars.

Well, the last nail in the coffin: the dimensions of the Storm Shadow are three times smaller than the dimensions of the jet drone Tu-141 "Strizh", which easily crossed the European part of Russia, "under the sights" of the radars of our air defense system.


There is something to get excited about, right?

Plus a warhead of half a ton of high-penetrating explosives. More than two times more than the ATACMS Block IA tactical ballistic missile, which Ukraine has so far unsuccessfully asked the West from the very beginning of the conflict. Now you can really stop, it turned out quite well without ATACMS.

As a result, we have in our opponents a missile capable of flying at extremely low altitudes, with low radar visibility, which will significantly complicate the fight against it.

If we talk about the use of Storm Shadow in the terrain of the European part of Russia, that is, medium ruggedness, there is an opinion that the multifunctional radars of the S-400 air defense system and the S-300 illumination and guidance radars of all modifications will be able to detect and capture Storm Shadow flying at an altitude of 50 meters at a distance of no more than 16-18 km. This is an assumption made by specialists from the MDV channel, but with the proviso that it will be possible to really clarify this only in the course of combat work.

In any case, a rocket flying at a speed of about 16 km / h (1000 m / s) will overcome these 277 km in some 55-60 seconds, which does not give time for buildup.

After detecting and capturing Storm Shadow for escort, it is necessary to launch immediately, and preferably with two missiles at once, to ensure the maximum probability of destruction. In this case, the meeting of missiles with the target will occur approximately at a distance of 10-13 km. This is in the event that the calculation of the air defense system works very quickly.


In the event of the slightest delay / sluggishness of the combat crew of the anti-aircraft missile unit, Storm Shadow after a very short period of time can easily leave the affected area.

That is, we again begin to bang our heads against the wall, behind which we have such an unattainable thing as a well-built and (important!) layered air defense system, and even consisting of various types of air defense systems. Plus, electronic reconnaissance, capable of detecting Storm Shadow at the maximum distance, and thus greatly facilitating the work of air defense systems with data.

In general, everything that we have long dreamed of.

Oh yes, we still have electronic warfare. Without the slightest condescension or sarcasm: these guys can do as much as air defense crews, and in some cases, even more. The main thing is to give them the opportunity to work, but we will talk about the intricacies of electronic warfare in the field separately.


True, to say that electronic warfare is omnipotent means to lie. To say that electronic warfare can handle itself is also a lie. To say that electronic warfare is useless is even more stupid than the first two points. The question is the clarity of interaction with other countermeasure systems. But electronic warfare systems may well provide significant assistance in the fight against cruise missiles. The main thing here is an understanding of the processes and not to rely on the adherents of the “Almighty Beauty”.

How the electronic filling of Storm Shadow works was discussed above, but we repeat:
- Storm Shadow navigation system has GPS, at least Navstar and Galileo;
- radio altimeter, which provides information for avoiding terrain;
- thermal imaging homing head for final adjustment.

When preparing for launch, a map of the area with the route, the terrain on the route of movement and an infrared portrait of the object are loaded into the rocket. After launch, the rocket starts moving along the correction points in accordance with the terrain map and GPS data.

If suddenly the GPS signals disappear, then the rocket goes along the inertial system and is corrected along the ground. Coming to the object, the rocket gains altitude, captures the object with an infrared homing head, compares the resulting image with a laid portrait, like a Javelin, after which the target is hit.

What can electronic warfare?



1. The main countermeasure is the jamming of satellite signals. Ideally, at least in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXblocation of the covered target, on the final segment of the missile's flight.

The difficulty is that you need to crush anti-jamming navigation signals, this will require an additional number of jamming stations. Plus, if the target is not in an open field, but in a city, this creates additional difficulties.

Let me give you my city as an example. Part of the air defense, the headquarters of the 20th army, several enterprises, hitting which would be painful, an aircraft factory, a military airfield. It's been two weeks since the electronic warfare "blew" out of the city all non-resident taxi drivers of southern origin, which the city did not know at all, relying on navigators. Now, when almost half of the millionth city is "closed" from satellites, only those who can without navigators are left in a taxi. But you have to wait longer.

But no one yells, everyone understands that it’s better to wait for a taxi than flying crap, which still doesn’t know where it will fall. Moreover, anti-aircraft gunners regularly bring down something from heaven

The inertial reporting system is more unpleasant, but the accuracy is already different there.

2. Radio altimeter. This is an ordinary locator that works in a vertical plane. It is suppressed in the event that a missile is detected by the corresponding complexes, what this suppression can lead to is understandable. To the loss of orientation on the relief map, followed by sticking into the relief object, if there are such on the route.

3. TGSN. Here it is possible, necessary and important to cover important objects with heat traps. They will not lead the modern matrix TGSN behind them, but blinding them, they will confuse, because the Storm Shadow TGSN compares the target image seen with the one stored in memory, and if there is no match, there will be no defeat.

Yes, smokes, oddly enough, can also do their evil work and prevent the rocket from “seeing” the target. And there will be no time to think. 277 meters per second.

But IR traps and smoke are already the last line of defense and counteraction. And in order to use their missile, it is necessary to detect and track it, which automatically brings us back to what was said earlier about layered air defense and RTR.

The result will be the disruption of the task of destroying an important object, since even if the missile deviates from the flight line by 50-150 meters, even with a half-ton warhead, its detonation may not have the expected effect. Which is already good.

Why do I keep talking about some "important goals"? Agree, launching a rocket, the cost of which is “only” 850 euros for a company command post, is stupid. Targets will be chosen very carefully, and Lugansk is actually a sighting.

Shooting after shooting



The Crimean bridge is immediately seen as the first target. Of course, the political aspect prevails here, and not only will a strike on the bridge, if successful, greatly complicate the supply of the group of Russian troops, since the land corridor to the Crimea is not yet at the ready stage, but another political slap in the face is obvious.

The moral and psychological significance here is simply overwhelming. Not just a deafening slap in the face, as was the case with sabotage, but something else, a demonstration of superiority in weapons.

Naturally, most likely, the blow will be combined. That is, in order to load Russian air defense as much as possible, you can launch everything that can depict a rocket in the air: Tochka, Haymars, drones and fake missiles. And from different directions.

The same small Switchblade 300 is a very useful thing for such operations.


It is easily transported, but what is there, it is carried in a backpack, it is launched almost from hand, and the warhead, although scanty, is: even 100 grams of C4 that exploded on the PAR antenna sheet, say, the S-400 locator is guaranteed to disable the air defense system.

In the same way, you can attack any targets other than bridges and overpasses. The same airfields or equipment repair bases, warehouses. Anything that pleases. The scheme was worked out back in Iraq, nothing new, and there is no point in developing something new, because the old one works quite well.

What is the supply of Storm Shadow?


Of course, it is very useful for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to have missiles of such a range at their disposal, especially since Kyiv has long been begging its allies for this. It's not about the Ukrainians, it's about their allies/masters. The transfer of Storm Shadow is a kind of “red line” that the gentlemen from NATO drew for themselves. And they crossed it, moreover, it turned out somehow quietly and calmly.

If just a couple of years ago, Zelensky literally begged himself on his knees for at least something long-range, swearing that nothing would fly into Russia, today you can already start thinking about what will happen next. After deliveries of Storm Shadow, the issue with ATACMS is no longer so acute, although a ballistic missile will come in handy for Ukrainians who are prudent in this regard. In addition, intercepting a tactical ballistic missile has its own difficulties.

But here it really makes sense to think about what else is left of what Kyiv would very much like to receive, but was not given. It doesn't matter for what reason.

Who thought about airplanes? I am sure that here we will all get into the top ten. And the delivery of the F-16 with air-to-ground missiles of the AGM-158 JASSM type with a firing range of up to 1000 km in the ER variant is not such an unrealizable dream as it might seem.

AGM-158 JASSM-ER is not "yesterday". This is the "today" of combat rocket science. A new high-precision cruise missile by all standards, capable of hitting protected and mobile important targets with its warhead weighing 450 kg in any weather conditions and at any time of the day.


Flight range (attention!) - 1000 km.

This is a completely different pattern of application, completely different perspectives. Someone can say - fiction and speculation. Yes, it's possible. But once upon a time, Hymars seemed like a fairy tale, but there they are, working as if nothing had happened.

And JASSM-ER is also cheaper than Storm Shadow. $850 versus €000. And the F-850 ... so, an application to them, nothing more.

The most unpleasant thing is that after deliveries tanks Leopard-2, M142 HIMARS and Storm Shadow getting Kiev F-16 along with the latest missiles no longer looks like such an alarmist fiction. Everything will be within the framework of the game, which is determined by the British and American gentlemen. And they, as you know, are not particularly used to ceremony with the rules of the game.
219 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +15
    16 May 2023 02: 58
    Thanks Roman! After more than a year, it’s clear, get ready, don’t get ready, the tops know better ....... am
    1. +74
      16 May 2023 03: 25
      but understanding people warned that this positional fuss would not lead to good, the longer it drags on, the more modern and better the weapons of Ukraine are. And Roman is right in suspecting the Crimean bridge, I think we will see very soon.
      1. +29
        16 May 2023 04: 05
        This "positional fuss" is not from a good life, it's just that this is all that the army is capable of at the moment, not counting, of course, nuclear weapons, although political "fuss" should not be ruled out either.
        1. +19
          16 May 2023 05: 05
          —-It looks like cooking frog soup on an ever-growing fire ... this is how the so-called. Russian red lines. Seeing the reaction to British supplies - and the rest will catch up (forbid and save !!)

          —-Everything has already been said - with such a saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons from the West, the delay in initiative military operations by the Russian Army is not in favor of Russia.

          —-Let's assume that Shoigu's words about the primacy of "minimal losses in the Russian Armed Forces" are true. And that the fear of an unsuccessful offensive in the absence of a commander fetters the actions of the Russian Armed Forces (who in Russia is a general of the "commander" level, with experience in successful offensive operations involving tens of thousands of fighters ??)

          —-It should be taken into account that CBO costs about $5 billion per month. Which is comparable to the “announced” military spending of the West… Or ~~1.5 trillion rubles for 4 months of 2023.

          —-Then the logical consequence and intention of Russia is strategic defense, and peace negotiations. This is indicated by the preservation of bridges, Kyiv, etc…. - Lack of initiative and clear action to change the situation. In short - "standing on the Ugra River."
          1. +54
            16 May 2023 05: 33
            The intentions of the Russian Federation have long been understood in the West, but they have little effect. They set the goal of inflicting a "strategic defeat" on Russia, and in this context, our lack of any initiative puts the country in the position of a target in the shooting range. The NATO bloc has absolute superiority in conventional weapons and it has absolutely nothing to negotiate with the Russian Federation if the war is going on in the current format. In addition, they remain unpunished after any supply of weapons to Ukraine. Just an ideal war for them, when they smash the enemy with the wrong hands, without any consequences, and even getting profits for the supplied weapons. What should be the level of our "geostrategists" who led to such a situation? Although, it is not known for whom they generally work.
            1. +7
              16 May 2023 07: 45
              And again we sailed to the standard questions of timelessness ... "Who is to blame?" and "What to do?".
              1. +8
                16 May 2023 10: 40
                Come on, foreign agents are to blame, they stir up trouble.
                1. +3
                  16 May 2023 12: 26
                  It's their skinny devils who are beating the water in the pond / Churchill came up with all this in the 18th year
              2. 0
                16 May 2023 12: 17
                So the national Russian fun is to look for the guilty and appoint the extreme ones, and the results have already been known for centuries, but ...!
            2. -8
              16 May 2023 12: 57
              As you read the comments, the awareness of military tactics and strategies is off scale. And how did the commentators themselves help Russia?! There are 600 US-trained traitors in the media and government. They are like worms in apples.
            3. 0
              16 May 2023 20: 17
              Moreover, they are monitoring all our involved military facilities, studying all the logistics, soon they will simply begin to destroy our fuel depots, bridges, dams, and so on!
          2. -29
            16 May 2023 05: 42
            Five lard a month is not much. Russia is capable of pulling it. I think the cost is more
            It's not about that. Right now, every day there is a restructuring of the economy. Not only military, but also civil. I looked at new positions on import substitution - every day they appear in batches
            1. +22
              16 May 2023 09: 44
              Quote: chingachguc
              Five lard a month is not much. Russia is capable of pulling it.

              Yes, this is already two times less than payments to pensioners. And a little more than the cost of education. So let's be understanding.
              Quote: chingachguc
              I looked at new positions on import substitution - every day they appear in batches

              But what about, the new Chinese Moskvich for two million, which in China itself costs a million (probably sawing a nameplate from platinum with a file), much better than the filthy decrepit old Ford.
              1. -10
                16 May 2023 13: 17
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Yes, this is already two times less than payments to pensioners. And a little more than the cost of education. So let's be understanding.

                So after all , budget revenues have increased . The notorious "Fiscal Rule" from the IMF and the World Bank has ceased to operate, deductions to "reserve funds" in the jurisdiction of the enemy have ceased, on the contrary, all these funds are now going to domestic investment ... and to the NWO, of course.
                And since the spring of last year, the planned additional monetization of the economy began, bringing it at the first stage to 70% (not yet achieved) of the available official 52% (in reality it was just over 40%) at a rate of 100% of the country's annual GDP. And this means that there is more money in the country and this does not put pressure on inflation in any way (it puts pressure on something else, but it has always been, now it is less) and does not lead to a shortage of goods. But at the same time, the money turnover increases ... and, consequently, the taxable base also increases.
                And also the foreign exchange funds of the reserve funds are converted / converted into rubles, and go to domestic investment ...
                In short, more money is now coming to the budget, and despite the fact that budget expenditures have grown very seriously, the budget is balanced (revenue-expenditure). And although the first months of the year were scarce for the budget, this is due to the fact that at the beginning of the year many government programs were advanced (previously, enterprises were forced to take loans to fulfill government orders), incl. and first of all - defense. But already in April, the debit and credit agreed, and since last month, the surplus has already gone. Yes, and you should not be afraid of a budget deficit if it is a growth deficit (and our defense industry growth sometimes shows multiple values), because we have very large reserves to cover periodic surges in demand for budget liquidity. The budget of the Russian Federation has been chronically surplus for the last 15-20 years, it’s just that the surplus was sterilized in reserve funds and the money was not used for development. Now let's go.
                Why am I so and so much?
                Just to explain that there is money for CBO and there is enough of it. How enough of them and for sustainable growth. The surplus of one foreign trade of the Russian Federation for the year has always been about 100 billion dollars. , last year this figure was twice as high. But domestic production is also growing. Just because now we have to produce a lot ourselves, and not buy it from imports. And defense spending is skyrocketing Yes , and this is the investment of domestic production and science in the most direct way. These are new jobs, new vacancies and growth prospects ... and this is already additional money from the population ... which (the population) SPENDS them with pleasure Yes , increasing domestic demand .
                Yes, and the NWO itself, oddly enough, contributes to the development of the consumer market and the growth of trade - soldiers and officers in the NWO zone receive very good salaries + bonuses ... it's sad, but - payments for injuries, and families - for dead soldiers. This is a lot of money in aggregate, and they are pouring into the commodity-money turnover, warming up the economy on a par with other factors. Therefore, despite the shutdown of many enterprises of foreign owners (in the same automotive industry and not only), growth in other industries has already covered their drawdown in the overall balance. And now both the automotive industry and the machine tool industry are starting up (it turns out that we had it, although it wasn’t spoiled with orders), and mechanical engineering, agricultural engineering, the production of many components is localized (there is simply no way out, even though sometimes it’s more expensive and troublesome) ... And all together , this is the growth of the economy. And it fully covers the current costs of the SVO.
                I am not writing in defense of the current authorities, but it just so happened that despite the failure of the military company itself and the heaped "sanctions from Hell", the economic bloc ... is pulling out. The financial system has not collapsed, the banking system is working, there is not even a trace of a commodity shortage (and in the USA and Europe it exists winked ), the industry is working, new industries are opening, demand in the labor market has grown and there is a shortage of engineers and qualified specialists ... yes, simply - for workers with training in production) ... there is enough investment potential due to internal resources.
                So for now, the Economy and the NWO, and the buildup of economic growth, are dragging on.
                But no one canceled the betrayal. She always walks next to success. an example of this is the overclocked meme about the inevitable second wave ... Privatization. What do they say banks want to privatize state monopolies ... such as Rosneft, Gazprom, USC, etc. assets . And this is a direct sabotage of direct enemies.
                True, Bastrykin proposes quite the opposite - the nationalization of all strategic enterprises in order to mobilize them for the implementation of the state defense order in order to win the SVO.
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                But what about the new Chinese Moskvich for two million, which in China itself costs a million

                Such a product is always more expensive. In addition, the enterprise has been standing since last year, incurring losses, a new line of cars, new supply chains ... these are all production costs that are covered by the cost of the product. Over time, they will be able to localize, debug logistics, production and sales, pay off their debts ... maybe Muscovites will become cheaper over time. The main thing is that the enterprises did not stop, production began to breathe again ... and the brands familiar in the past are returning ...
                About ..... you can love any, the most winning and successful game, if you are crazy or with malicious intent. But now Russia has every chance to get out of the crisis (and this is precisely the Crisis, and it will last another 8-10 years) as a much stronger, richer and independent power in all respects.
                If we are not defeated again by betrayal of the tops.
                But we've been through this before, right?
                1. +3
                  16 May 2023 13: 49
                  Quote: bayard
                  So after all , budget revenues have increased . The notorious "Fiscal Rule" from the IMF and the World Bank has ceased to operate, deductions to "reserve funds" in the jurisdiction of the enemy have ceased, on the contrary, all these funds are now going to domestic investment ... and to the NWO, of course.

                  And what or who prevented us from doing all this before? Wandering abroad Chubais with Kudrin?
                  Quote: bayard
                  The main thing is that the enterprises did not stop, production began to breathe again ... and the brands familiar in the past are returning ...

                  As especially cynical comrades scoff, in this production only the nameplate is glued and the wheels are screwed on. I don’t know this in real life, but about a year and a half ago they told me how they collect Chinese hawal here, in the Tula region. Exactly, as A. Hailey ("Wheels") describes the work of blacks on the Detroit assembly line in the 70s. For the average salary in the region (otherwise they will envy and everyone will run there), although the Chinese were ready to pay much more. And the Chinese comrades there received much more than ours.
                  1. -2
                    16 May 2023 16: 24
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And what or who prevented us from doing all this before? Wandering abroad Chubais with Kudrin?

                    The very "rules" established for Russia by the United States and England at the turn of the 90s, the implementation of which the West now demands from the Russian Federation, interfered with. And Chubais with Kudrin and other "legion" appointed here as watchers.
                    And when the decision on the SVO was made (announced on February 24.02.2022, 70.), And the next day it was announced by the first person of the state that from now on the "Budget Rule" will not be observed, and besides, the do-monetization of the Russian economy begins to XNUMX% .... here then the "frightened patriots" rushed across the cordon. For they knew that after SUCH a decision, Russia would simply be destroyed. And they will be asked for an oversight. That's why they panicked.
                    In fact, Russia, in the most literal sense, raised a revolt, and armed. And the main requirement was the recognition of her right to an independent economic and financial policy.
                    And how successful this rebellion is ...
                    In military terms - a grandiose failure and stabilization of the front after gestures and regroupings.
                    But in the economic field, it is already much better ... but also not without problems, which will be solved for several more years.
                    But in the geopolitical ... did you notice the consequences?
                    And they are huge. In fact, there was a revolt of almost the entire non-Western world against the hegemon and his retinue, against his financial system and his currency as a reserve and main settlement ... the oil monarchies of the Gulf got out of obedience, the leading countries of Latin America joined the rebellion and are now building a new one together with BRICS international settlement financial system and a new currency for international settlements.
                    And what about the moral and business qualities of our so-called. I don’t need to write “elites”, I knew some of them. But the fact remains - something for which everything was started, withstood and exports.
                    But what they counted on as a matter of course (how about - the 2nd army of the world) ... brought some disappointments and problems. Moreover, for towers they are difficult to solve - after all, the general was nurtured not according to a professional and high-quality principle, but according to the principle of LOYALTY. Because they have no other generals for us. And those that are, did not prepare further than the parade, biathlon and police mission (a la Syria). And the army was created a symbolic number. Laughter and only - the number of ALL Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (280 thousand) is less than the number of the Russian Guard (!! 350 thousand). What could be won like that.
                    And I had to (and still have) to fight seriously. And to create the Army almost from scratch - in the face of its Ground Forces.
                    And about the screwdriver assembly ... a lot already has to be localized in captivity. Yes, and science has become science with Western companies, so they will be more careful with China. This is also the same partner. Not for long.
                    1. -2
                      16 May 2023 18: 40
                      from now on, the "Budget Rule" will not be observed, and besides, the do-monetization of the Russian economy to 70% begins ....

                      It seems that this is the true purpose of all this SVO.
                      And at the same time to throw out of the country foreign "investors" of the 90s. Which in some industries already control up to 70%. And all the profits are over the hill.

                      This trillion, which was pumped out of here, does not even belong to any of our oligarchs. Otherwise it would have been found and confiscated. About them.

                      And 300 yards, such as the Central Bank forgotten there, are compensation. bully
                      1. +1
                        17 May 2023 13: 20
                        Quote: Arzt
                        And 300 yards, such as the Central Bank forgotten there, are compensation.

                        These 300+ billion dollars. almost all of them have already been taken out of their custody. And in a very tricky way - through the conversion. With a simple bank notice that the above amount (each account has its own) was issued rubles and in connection with this this amount (in dollars, euros, Swiss francs) ... IS NULLED. moreover, such an operation is performed automatically WITHOUT the participation of bank clerks ... There is such a banking program. That's why the banikirs of the West complained that on Russian arrested accounts ... "money disappears." Yes
                        And now recalculate this amount in rubles and you will understand why all last year, and even now, the head of state says that "we have ENOUGH money." wink
                        Quote: Arzt
                        It seems that this is the true purpose of all this SVO.

                        One of the main ones.
                    2. 0
                      23 May 2023 02: 38
                      And what are you going to "fight" with those land forces in the 21st century?
                2. +6
                  16 May 2023 14: 15
                  Was it economic fiction?
                  There is growth in income in the banking sector.
                  The rest of what is described - no.
                  1. -3
                    16 May 2023 16: 38
                    Quote: German
                    There is growth in income in the banking sector.
                    The rest of what is described - no.

                    Banks are "holy" ... even the "holy of holies" for liberal towers. And there are no others in the Kremlin. No matter how hard you try, you can't force a tiger to eat hay.
                    Quote: German
                    Was it economic fiction?

                    No, that's how it is.
                    With the invariable "holiness" of private property, the inviolability of the banking sector and profit - as the highest goal in the life of a liberal.
                    They just are.
                    And yet, they are forced and made a decision to get out of control of the hegemon's financial and political dictates ... and the whole foundation of the "universe" ... "based on rules" crackled, staggered. And it is not yet clear how it will all end. They will not want to leave and admit defeat and will not be able to. Means war .
                    Are you ready for war?
                    This is no longer a joke.
                    Quote: German
                    The rest of what is described - no.

                    Statistics - Science Queen. Just numbers and facts.
                    But this does not mean at all that you or I will live better from this. For what the power of the liberals does is exclusively for themselves and their financial masters. But there will be money for retirement and other social programs. As long as they will. at current costs and realities.
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                3. +3
                  16 May 2023 15: 32
                  Reminds me, >10 years ago:
                  ..
                  ... made a lot of achievements. They raised the economy, we began to dress better ... and it was not what it is now! These are very big achievements. Agriculture is very good.
                  -
                  Ah… There is more land, zaaa… Well… I don’t even know how to say… Sow more land! Ahh, here, there are vegetables, rye, that's all ... what else can I say ... Since our country is multinational, we have a lot of people in Moscow who help us a lot from other cities. Ahhh...

                  Yeah, that's a big achievement. Very good, even. Raising medicine ... with us, yeah. Medicine in Ivanovo has become very good medicine. What else? Improvement in cities is good. Housing is no problem. They help people very well.
                  1. 0
                    16 May 2023 17: 01
                    I am very happy for Ivanovo that everything is so wonderful there and there are so many achievements.
                    We have noticeably fewer of them in Donetsk. And they shoot much more often.
                    And to be honest, I don’t understand what is wrong with your landscaping? My godfather, when for the first time from Ukraine (until 2014), drove with his family to his historical homeland (Urals) in a car - back and forth, spoke with such admiration, what a striking difference with Ukraine and what it was before. After all, before it was exactly the opposite (under the USSR) - Ukraine was much more well-groomed and prosperous. And here - 2000+ km. there and back - "Everything is being built, being improved, roads are excellent, cities are being decorated, infrastructure is being updated ...". What more do you need?? Compatriots (and even native Germans !!) have already reached out to you from Germany for permanent residence, from Australia, from the USA, from France, everyone has sharply gathered ... They come, settle, and they LIKE EVERYTHING. They are better off in Russia than in the USA, Germany, France, Australia. They are happy as hell lol , and you have eternal dissatisfaction.
                    So the USSR was destroyed - they showed Hollywood pictures, groovy music, unusual outfits ... beautiful cities ... but in reality?
                    But in fact, many foreigners who came to the USSR said to our compatriots: "You can't even imagine how happy you are, and how everything is fine with you ... But you can understand this only when you lose it."
                    And to the question "What is it?" answered - "Confidence in the future". It's like Health and youth - while they are, you don't notice them, and when you lose them ... it's too late.
                    I would not recommend going through this disappointment again.

                    Quote: Engineer
                    Agriculture is very good.

                    Is it bad?
                    Our agriculture provides everything necessary, and even more than enough. The first place in the world in the export of grain from Russia ... and the USSR bought grain. Not enough . And look WHAT crops were then, and now.
                    Students and schoolchildren are not sent to you to harvest potatoes, etc. ...? But it was a seasonal entertainment - the struggle for the harvest. They took out EVERYONE, even the scientists of the design bureau and research institutes. Yes Even Vysotsky sang about it. bully Romance, of course, but now we somehow manage without it, and the harvest is saved by regular forces and seasonal workers.
                    Quote: Engineer
                    Medicine in Ivanovo has become very good medicine.

                    And you look at the blogs of our compatriots in the USA, they have everything much better and more intricate there. And the prices ... for medicine ...
                    Although I liked Soviet medicine more.
                    Quote: Engineer
                    Housing is no problem. People are very helpful.

                    How can you help with housing? belay This is not the Soviet Power, which provided housing for all those in need ... Have you mixed up anything? THIS government does not owe you anything. CAPITALISM. Here it's every man for himself .... Well, or "a gift from the president."
                    1. +1
                      16 May 2023 21: 05
                      Well, you give .. you are from very young, probably .. this is the type from "Light from Ivanovo".
                      Well, the concept of "sarcasm" is applicable
                      1. +2
                        17 May 2023 11: 02
                        Quote: Engineer
                        Well, you give .. you are probably very young

                        In the early 90s, I visited Ivanovo a couple of times on a business trip. A city as a city - in Russia there are both better and worse cities. So what's wrong with you in your city that sarcasm is whipping over the edge?
                        Or do you think that the government should do something? So she many times informed you and all citizens of the Russian Federation from all levels of the pyramid of power that "The authorities owe you NOTHING!" . And you, like small children, are always complaining about something. Capitalism is when every man is for himself and "Man is a wolf to man". The nature of this power is such and there will be no other.
                        But she creates her own environment. They, too, are sick of driving along shabby streets. And on broken roads.
                        And with housing now, everyone is their own earner.

                        But the fact that the state and the authorities have enough money and, in general, funds is enough, the above does not cancel. There is money, it is ENOUGH for the NWO, and for the social sphere, and for development. Development is for the authorities ... an unpleasant thing, forcing them to do something, to strain ... she does not like it. But now it has to. The course of events and the nature of things did not leave another way out for her (power).
                        And do not complain about what you have in Ivanovo. Believe me, the residents of Donbass have much more reason to complain. And this is also Russia.
                      2. +1
                        17 May 2023 15: 16
                        look at "Sveta from Ivanovo", I meant that your optimism is similar
                    2. 0
                      16 May 2023 21: 53
                      The first place in the world in the export of grain from Russia ... and the USSR bought grain. Not enough .

                      Yeah, there wasn’t enough, right, grains of durum wheat in the USSR, that’s why they bought it. And soft varieties are fodder, for livestock! There were a lot of farms in the USSR, in every store pasteurized milk was delivered in the morning, I remember it well!
                      And now there are very few livestock, soft grain is superfluous, so they sell it abroad and feed us ... Bread has become worse in quality than Soviet bread at times.
                      1. +6
                        17 May 2023 11: 15
                        Quote: Arbeiternegast
                        Yeah, there wasn’t enough, right, grains of durum wheat in the USSR, that’s why they bought it.

                        In the USA and Canada, it was fodder grain that was bought - there was not enough to feed livestock. And as for hard varieties, we have never cultivated such varieties and have not grown them in principle - these crops are for Africa and the Middle East, with their climate.
                        And yes, I also remember very well draft milk (and sour cream) from cans in the morning, and a queue with three-liter cans and cans. Sometimes milk was brought in barrels for draft beer (towed - on wheels) and then sold simply in the open. And in each collective farm there were poultry and pig farms, cowsheds, sometimes even canning and sausage factories, smokehouses. I remember that time well. Now, on the site of former farms and cowsheds, there are ruins. It is difficult for farmers to sell milk, retail chains do not accept it - dairies supply them with long-term storage "milk" from under a palm tree.
                        If there was a healthy state policy, with concern for the health of citizens, now the grain was not exported, but for fattening livestock and dairy farms. But we have, after all, the main trader in palm oil and dry "milk" from it ... he heads the State Duma.
                        also thinks about the people.
                      2. +1
                        17 May 2023 21: 14
                        Totally agree with you! In addition .. durum wheat was grown in the Volgograd region, during the times of the USSR. Now I do not know. For some reason, only the climate is suitable there, not even in the Kuban.
                      3. 0
                        18 May 2023 10: 29
                        Quote: Arbeiternegast
                        . durum wheat varieties were grown in the Volgograd region, during the Soviet era. Now I do not know.

                        The Volgograd region (especially the Trans-Volga region) is a zone of risky agriculture and crops there have always fluctuated depending on the weather, seasonal rains and the amount of snow that has fallen in winter. Maybe arid steppes are suitable for hard varieties, but the risk is too great. Therefore, it has always been preferred to grow the most productive varieties of wheat and crops most appropriate to the region. For our middle zone and the south of Russia, those varieties that are now grown are more productive. with proper application of fertilizers and appropriate agricultural technology, yields almost doubled compared to the Soviet period. And this is on the condition that not all fields are returned to crop rotation.
                        As for the Trans-Volga region, it is very unfortunate that under Khrushchev the "Climate Change" program adopted under Stalin - the planting of windproof forest plantations - was curtailed. So the south of Ukraine was spared from dust storms and weathering, and vast territories were introduced into a stable crop rotation. It was planned that such forest plantations would systematically move to the east of the country - in the Trans-Volga region. Moreover, not only wind-shelter plantings were planned, but also the planting of full-fledged forests from the rocks most appropriate to the climate and landscape.
                        In addition, it was precisely under that program that a part of the flow of Siberian rivers into the Aral Sea was envisaged to form a large water mirror and mitigate the climate. If this had happened under the USSR, then the current deserts and steppes of Central Asia would long ago have become the main breadbasket of the USSR for subtropical fruits, vegetables, melons, and grains too. The climate in the region would become much more humid, winters would be much milder, and rains would be more frequent. It was a comprehensive program based on scientific modeling. And Siberia would not have suffered at the same time, because they were going to use only part of the spillway of its main rivers, taking water from tributaries. Today, Central Asia would be a flourishing subtropical region, and the "Kazakh" steppes would be covered with flowering gardens, broad-leaved forests and fertile arable land.
                        Not fused.
                        Moreover, the Trans-Volga region is still suffering from dry winds and dust storms ... But when something similar happened in the south of Ukraine, forest plantations began to be planted there only after the Second World War. hi
                4. AIR
                  +9
                  16 May 2023 17: 05
                  Things are much worse than you described... There is no increase in production. Money from the country, as they left, and continue to go abroad. From abroad, we do not receive anything with our money. This is the so-called surplus. And for a simple withdrawal of capital abroad.
                  1. +1
                    17 May 2023 12: 09
                    Quote: AVIA
                    Money from the country, as they left, and continue to go abroad.

                    Foreign business has left the country and continues to leave ... it withdraws its funds ... as far as it is allowed. Foreign trade continues, imports are paid, transactions (and not always in dollars) are going on ... all this is also considered as a withdrawal of capital. Haven't you heard about it?
                    Or do you think that those oligarchs whose accounts, property, real estate in Western countries were seized ... will continue to withdraw their "hard-earned" money to the same place - under arrest?? Do you think they are idiots? They now prefer to keep capital in the currency of the Emirates, China ... in gold in the end. In addition, the only place on the planet where they do not have the threat of arrest of capital is precisely Russia. Therefore, the funds are returned, they are used for investments. Oddly enough ... rather unusual for the "domestic" business.
                    Quote: AVIA
                    From abroad, we do not receive anything with our money.

                    Have you lost goods in the supermarket? Was there a shortage of something vital?
                    Look at the growth in trade with China. At the same time, for the first time in recent years, we buy more from China than we sell (not by much, but a fact). And the trade turnover in the PRC will grow in proportion to the very import substitution - the replacement of European imports by Chinese ones. There is a problem with the merchandise of Indian rupees - they suddenly become TOO much, and no one really needs them ... even India itself ... feel So Manturov tried to convince them to sell us for rupees what we need ... until we agreed. In the meantime, we have not agreed, we accept payment for Russian oil and LNG in the UAE currency ... from the Indians. But I think we will agree.
                    Quote: AVIA
                    This is the so-called surplus.

                    This is not the whole surplus . do not forget about the so-called. "shadow fleet", which drives oil to Europe by tankers with overflow from tanker to tanker on the high seas. Where are these dollars and euros to go now? For us, these currencies have become toxic ... Yes, and in general, imports to the Russian Federation have declined greatly ... and exports, not especially.
                    Quote: AVIA
                    on a simple withdrawal of capital abroad.

                    So it was before, and the entire surplus was withdrawn to Western jurisdictions. Now all the proceeds from shadow trade are immediately converted into currencies ... of non-Western countries. These non-Western countries are very good. And our business has the possibility of parallel imports. What are your supermarkets filled with.
                    Quote: AVIA
                    There is no increase in production.

                    And if you look honestly?
                    In some industries, there is a strong decline (automobile industry), and in others - machine tool building (and we have it), heavy engineering, production of tanks, armored vehicles, artillery systems and MLRS, ammunition of all kinds, military aircraft, uniforms, equipment, dry rations, first-aid kits, military vehicles .... this is also the Economy. And she is GROWING. For a lock + a year. Shipbuilding is growing, forced import substitution with the localization of production at home (it turned out that much can be produced by ourselves, although it was easier and more profitable to import).
                    It was this growth that overcame the decline in several industries. But auto enterprises are restarting. And they will restart. And return to the previous level. And maybe they will grow up. But military spending has now grown for a long time - by at least 10 years. And this (military spending), oddly enough, very seriously stimulates the economy, science, production, mechanical engineering, machine tool building, materials science, demand for engineering personnel ... This becomes the driver of the economy, as it should have been ... but it was not the fault liberals.
                    And very soon there will be a new international currency of the BRICS Bank. And it is to this currency that the countries of Asia, Africa and Latin America will switch in their calculations. And then ... and Europe. And where should she go? France has ALREADY switched to buying oil and oil products for RMB. They no longer sell for euros and dollars. KSA does not sell!! And do not think that "tomorrow the money will run out" lol , Russia conducts domonetization of its own economy. And it will continue for another 10-15 years at least. Now monetization in the Russian Federation is less than 50%, at a rate of 100% of annual GDP. When the Russian Federation raised monetization from 4% to 40% from 2005 to 2015, the economy in the Russian Federation grew at a rate of 7-10% every year. And now it will grow, only military spending will somewhat blur this effect. Have you ever wondered why there is now such a shortage of employees in machine-building and defense enterprises? What caused the deficit? And what will happen when this deficit is satisfied?
                    What does the decision to launch the production of the MiG-35S at two aircraft factories at once mean? But for other types of combat aircraft and weapons for them, orders also increased by an order of magnitude +. This is also economics. With a very high level / degree of redistribution. With a huge number of subcontractors and suppliers for industrial cooperation.
                    And the aviation industry is already forced, but inexorably, to restart. For since there is no access to Western aircraft, we have to concentrate on domestic ones. And this is the highest level of both technical culture and science, and the degree of redistribution. One job in the aviation industry creates at least 10 jobs in other industries. And the launch of the domestic aviation industry will pull out all the other subcontractors in cooperation.
                    1. AV
                      -2
                      18 May 2023 08: 37
                      And New Vasyuki will become the chess capital of the galaxy, yes yes yes.
                      Passed, we know.
                      1. +1
                        18 May 2023 10: 58
                        Quote: A V
                        Passed, we know.

                        Exactly what went on - from 2005 to 2015. , when the growth rate of the Russian economy was 7 - 10% per year.
                        What does that require ?
                        - DOMESTIC DEMAND - it exists and it is huge.
                        - The need to develop infrastructure, transport, mining, processing, engineering and high-tech projects and industries. It is - there are many places in Russia to make their own investments. And how Siberia and the Far East are waiting for these investments and development programs (infrastructure, mining, processing, creation of the final product). These programs have been ready for a long time and are waiting for their implementation (investments and efforts).
                        - Sovereign Financial System, capable of self-financing of national development projects at a low/symbolic percentage... Rejection of the "Fiscal Rule" by the IMF and the WB have made the prerequisites for this and created the conditions. The next step is direct budget financing and lending through state banks at a low interest rate for large national investment projects.
                        Quote: A V
                        And New Vasyuki will become the chess capital of the galaxy, yes yes yes.

                        Are you so passionate about Ilf and Petrov?
                        Or do you not see point-blank examples of successful development using such methods?
                        Then look at the growth rate of the USSR from the early 30s to the mid-late 60s / early 70s. Look at modern China, which back in the 70s and 80s of the last century was a poor and backward country, and now it is the 1st economy in the World. But they simply adopted the experience of the Stalinist Economy, applying it to their Chinese specifics. They did everything according to Stalinist patterns. Yes, and they continue to do so. That's why they became economic leaders.
                        Quote: A V
                        Passed, we know.

                        You walked (and observed) only the path of degradation from the most advanced Stalinist Economy to the Khrushchev-Brezhnev late Soviet emasculated economy with rampant sabotage by the late Soviet elites and sabotage of the trade mafia patronized by them, who arranged artificial deficits and nervousness in society to create conditions for a liberal-capitalist coup.
                        And the degradation of the actual post-Soviet wreckage of the Great Country.
                        You have seen (passed) Death, but you do not know Life and the laws of its development. And you don't want to know, as I understand it. For it is more pleasant for worms to swarm in corpses. And then the worms become flies.
                5. +2
                  16 May 2023 18: 33
                  You look at the news on near-economic sites at least sometimes ...
                6. 0
                  21 May 2023 02: 46
                  The notorious "Fiscal Rule" from the IMF and the World Bank has ceased to operate, deductions to "reserve funds" in the jurisdiction of the enemy have ceased

                  There are doubts about this. The budget rule was indeed canceled, either at the end of 2021 or at the very beginning of 2022, before the start of the SVO, but then (when a quick victory did not work out, and they began to put pressure on us), the budget rule was returned back (approximately in the second half of 2022). In 2023, I did not follow, but I think it has not changed.
                  The size of our reserves (weekly figures) can be viewed on the official website of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, at the link:
                  https://www.cbr.ru/hd_base/mrrf/mrrf_7d/
            2. 0
              16 May 2023 20: 20
              And our budget is growing on a tree! Well, Putin will last another year maximum two! What then - will drive a peasant to fight for free, will force people to work for free in the defense industry in three shifts?
              1. 0
                17 May 2023 12: 51
                Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                And our budget is growing on a tree!

                No, it is filled from current receipts. But these revenues do not now go (according to the "Budget Rule") to reserve funds, but remain in the budget. And peak budget loads (a one-time advance payment of military orders to industry in the first months of the year) are covered from rather extensive ... reserve funds. Plus - "domonetization of the economy", which also goes to finance priority government programs - direct government investment, and not forcing enterprises to take loans from commercial banks.
                Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                Well, Putin will last another year maximum two!

                Are you talking about his health?
                Or about available reserves?
                So even last year, despite the collapsed sanctions and SVO, the budget remained in surplus and part of the surplus went ... to those very reserve funds. From where at the beginning of this year the funds were allocated for advance payments (prepayments) for defense orders. And this year the budget is already balanced by May , and its revenues are even somewhat ahead of expenditures . So what's going to happen in a year or two?
                Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                drive a man to fight for free, make people work for free

                While the men in the war receive a very good salary, bonuses, combat and compensation / payments for injuries. And what will happen there in a year or two ... Maybe the NWO will end by the end of this year, and victoriously.
                Here Manturov reported that the monthly production of tanks this year exceeded the figures of the last year by 7 times. And this means that the above tanks were laid down last year - there is such a thing as a production cycle. And the production of ammunition is not even growing multiple - by an order of magnitude + \ orders (it depends on the type of ammunition). Remember last year's "partial mobilization"? How much noise and excitement ... and after all, ONLY ... 300 thousand storekeepers were OFFICIALLY called. Why did such a stir happen? If we have an annual call for military service for a large figure and is invisible to society?
                But if we assume that not 300 thousand were called at a time, but let's say ... a million and a half (remember the scandal about the shortage of 1,5 million sets of "Warrior" in warehouses?) ... then the noise and excitement becomes understandable and understandable. You don't think that the army warehouses were completely empty, do you? And that there weren’t a couple of hundreds of thousands of uniforms and equipment there? And why did the figure sound exactly 1,5 million?
                And now for half a year + this power has been training at training grounds, undergoing combat coordination, ARMED, because to arm such an armada with everything necessary (after all, it’s 10-15 full-blooded armies), it’s not such an easy task, just tanks, artillery, military air defense, ammunition, ATGMs, mortars, etc. differences ... SO MUCH you need. As well as time for combat coordination. After all, this is not a company / battalion / regiment to turn into a combat unit, here we are talking about divisions, corps and armies.
                That's why the defense industry works in three shifts, urgently recruiting personnel. Works for money.
                Quote: Glagol1
                invite North Korean troops to fight together

                And by the way, this is also an option, and the Koreans of the North are ready for this, which they have officially announced more than once. And we will provide them with food, oil, and a gas pipeline. Yes
                After all, we need troops not only for the NWO. It is necessary to strengthen the western border, where NATO swirls in our former territories. And keep your ears open in the Far East so that the samurai do not dare.
                Quote: Sergey Dvornikov
                And our budget is growing on a tree!

                Just imagine that every month, when you received a salary, you put aside part of the money you received in your neighbor’s pocket (they say, the reserve fund is more reliable anyway), and one fine day you decided not to do this, and leave all the money in your own pocket. smile
                Question:
                - Has there been more money in your pocket after you stopped putting it into your neighbor's pocket? bully
                The question is difficult, think about it.
                - And since you now (oddly enough) have become the owner of your enterprise and decided to raise your (and all employees) salary annually by (say) 10% ... Will such a decision affect your well-being. (this was an illustration on the topic of domonetization of the economy)
                hi
          3. -2
            16 May 2023 12: 27
            500 billion rubles per month. Or 25% of all state revenues. Since the red lines have been crossed, I propose that we also cross one - to invite the troops of the DPRK to jointly fight the Reich.
        2. +24
          16 May 2023 06: 08
          How can political fuss be ruled out? Do the bridges across the Dnieper stand, like the tunnels in the Carpathians, for some kind of military necessity? And the Kremenchug Oil Refinery? And the surrender of the northern regions of the Kharkov region, where no one threatened our troops. Yes, and the surrender of Kherson, in fact. Which was being prepared at the moment when celebrations were taking place in the Kremlin in honor of the entry of the Kherson region into Russia. Yes, and the gallant General Surovikin, having announced that he could not resist on the high bank of the Dnieper and had to go to the low one, suddenly disappeared somewhere. Did the Moor do his job?
        3. +12
          16 May 2023 07: 19
          Quote: Quiet Don
          This "positional fuss" is not from a good life, it's just that this is all the army is capable of at the moment

          And the army is only capable of frontal attacks on fortified areas, which suddenly became the crowning achievement of military-strategic art?
          In my couch opinion, there is a limitation in the choice of targets and directions for strikes. political limitation.
          1. +18
            16 May 2023 08: 10
            On May 9, Putin once again announced the "defense of Donbass" as the goal of the operation. Although one does not have to be an officer of the General Staff to understand that with a lost initiative, the boundaries of hostilities and the lines where they stop are determined not by you, but by the enemy. So in the current situation, statements about the "defense of Donbass" are manilovism, signaling to the enemy how much your capabilities have decreased. Therefore, his actions were effective and they must be continued.
          2. +2
            16 May 2023 10: 57
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And the army is only capable of frontal attacks on fortified areas, which suddenly became the crowning achievement of military-strategic art?

            Thus, for encirclement, forces are needed that are capable of building both fronts of the ring - internal and external. Does the army have them, which in formally non-war time can participate in the NWO only with part of its forces?
            1. +1
              16 May 2023 12: 39
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Does the army have them, which in formally non-war time can participate in the NWO only with part of its forces?

              There are no forces, Alexey, you are right. But why is that? The command did not know that the enemy was preparing and teaching reserves, and that the second wave of mobilization had to be carried out as early as February in order to have trained reserves by spring? Why, at a time when a full-fledged war is going on, does the country's leadership cling to the status of the NWO, continuing to transfer resources to the West through enemy territory? Why these murky schemes and agreements on grain deals? These are not all questions, I think you have quite a few of them.
      2. +16
        16 May 2023 09: 11
        You were also told by a person with a rating of 80+ that we have invented the best tactics and strategy - "chicken by grain" and how can you not believe this. hi
      3. -10
        16 May 2023 09: 11
        Quote: Aerodrome
        but understanding people warned that this positional fuss would not lead to good, the longer it drags on, the more modern and better the weapons of Ukraine are. And Roman is right in suspecting the Crimean bridge, I think we will see very soon.

        We'll definitely bang. The whole world is in ruins. But then ... (C)
        Eurofascists are constantly raising the stakes in the Great Game. We need Khrushchev with a shoe on the UN platform, not these snots. It is high time to resume testing nuclear weapons and blast the Tsar Bomba so that the whole planet knows that we are ready for heaven, and the rest are ready to be sent to hell. am
      4. -15
        16 May 2023 10: 50
        The Russian Federation has not seriously started anything in Ukraine yet - I think we will see it very soon!
    2. -19
      16 May 2023 05: 38
      All the same, it is good that we are being tested with these missiles in a conflict of not very high intensity. It’s better to learn like this, gradually, it’s worse when they immediately beat with a fist
      1. +30
        16 May 2023 06: 11
        . Right now, every day there is a restructuring of the economy. Not only military, but also civil. I looked at new positions on import substitution - every day they appear in batches

        Please excuse me, if you are a real person and believe in all this nonsense - turn on your head as soon as possible!
        1. +3
          16 May 2023 19: 40
          Quote: Vladimir80
          Please excuse me, if you are a real person and believe in all this nonsense - turn on your head as soon as possible!

          everything is simple. he is clearly a smart person, like several other similar colleagues on the site, but they have a working mental defense
          "Denial is an extremely easy-to-understand defense. Its name speaks for itself - the person using it, in fact, denies events or information that he cannot accept."
          they simply cannot accept the realities, where it happens, what is happening, so they look for the exclusively positive and build a picture of the world out of it...
          1. +3
            16 May 2023 20: 58
            Yes, such people are found here and in reality. But still, the most active position on the Internet is occupied by "guardian" trolls...
            1. +5
              16 May 2023 21: 41
              Quote: WFP-1
              Yes, such people are found here and in reality. But still, the most active position on the Internet is occupied by "guardian" trolls...

              He's just from Donetsk. It is hard to be disappointed when you learn that Russia is not quite the same as it is shown on TV.
              Our trip ended in Sevastopol at the Vernadsky University (now the Crimean Federal University), where we held a joint conference with the Crimeans. We talked a lot about how we have been waiting for the reunification of Russia and Crimea for 23 years. And then the wise head of the Department of History, Doctor of Historical Sciences, summed up: “Dear electors, we have been waiting for this hour to return to Russia. But we had the idea that we would return to Soviet Russia.”

              https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/539470
      2. +30
        16 May 2023 06: 14
        The strategic defeat of Russia was inflicted 30 years ago by the successfully carried out flower garden and the destruction of its industrial and military potential. The descendants of pirates, upstarts for a match, categorically refuse to accept.
        The fingerless drunk sang God bless America and then handed over the inheritance to the wrestlers.
        1. +1
          16 May 2023 16: 14
          Instead of developing friendship with Western partners, perhaps the focus should have been on developing a line of defense? And in all directions. This would be a really reliable red line that any partner would be afraid to step over.
          1. +1
            16 May 2023 18: 26
            This requires an industrial state with high-tech production, and the entire range of goods, from nails to microchips. Another way is global cooperation, where the harsh dictates of Western, mostly scammed, corporations. Russia, following the results of a lost fight for the souls and brains of the population, was given the place of a gas station in the West, with the complete destruction of what was created during the years of Soviet power. Having received the goodies of a comfortable life, she lost her sovereignty, because in this global world of the Chistogan, the Anglo-Saxon-Jewish world clan rules and it determines who how to live and what to develop. There are no exceptions on the planet. You can arbitrarily promote a multipolar world, it's all fiction. Not a single national government is capable of anything to oppose their dictate. Freemasons always and everywhere now, with the disappearance of the second pole, achieve their goal. Simply put, the towers lie tightly under them, in other words, like everyone else.
          2. -1
            16 May 2023 21: 11
            so it would be possible, Russia and the border near Pskov accepted.
            But for NATO to stand in Crimea and Donetsk and "democratize" us like Iraq and Syria
            this was unbearable. Another question is that our elite itself laid all these bombs for the future .. Giving the Galicians Little Russia and Crimea, yes yes, a long-term policy of indigenization at the expense of Russia
            1. 0
              17 May 2023 10: 35
              There were no Galicians in the Soviet and party power to Khrushch on the outskirts and was not even close. Yes, he managed to shit, but he was knocked over and the structures were cleaned out. The main process began with the withered LIB and the arrival of the marked tsrushnik. Then the collapse and sale by the compradors of the interests of the people of Russia, who recognized Bandera's power. The union corrected its personnel error. The bomb didn't explode. And about at the expense of someone, so the Bolsheviks are communist internationalists, there were no nationalist inclinations in them. The Russian people are the most numerous in the USSR, so they pulled the cart, precisely because they are the titular and the most numerous. In the USSR, all the republics worked for everyone. And industrial production developed throughout the vast country. A person had to have a job, this is the cornerstone of a society of social justice.
              And nationalism was strangled in the bud. But the moment came, the noose was released and off we went. The man and his outlook has changed. The genius of the IVS was right, as always. Cadres are everything.
      3. +14
        16 May 2023 06: 51
        Quote: chingachguc
        Still goodthat we are being tested with these missiles in a conflict of not very high intensity.

        What's good about being a target? And the West probably only enters the taste!
      4. +16
        16 May 2023 07: 29
        It’s especially good to learn when you know for sure that this rocket is not for you, isn’t it?
      5. +6
        16 May 2023 09: 02
        You are the people who suffered from these missiles, tell them in the eye and still their reaction will greatly surprise you.
    3. -1
      16 May 2023 17: 37
      My opinion is that they shot from an airplane, having come to the conclusion that they had read the article, well, this is my opinion, and most likely the plane was not Polish, although from Poland, and entered
      into the airspace of Ukraine, do not go to the grandmother!
  2. +16
    16 May 2023 03: 11
    I would not like, as they say, to croak, but the visit of the Chinese representative to the country implies negotiations on peace, otherwise I don’t see such a sluggish reaction to the enemy’s latest art.
    1. +45
      16 May 2023 05: 56
      Peace was negotiated with the Russian Federation when it had military superiority. They led Putin with his cloud of advisers by the nose and eliminated superiority. Now there is nothing to negotiate with the Russian Federation. Actually, this is openly stated by the announcement of criminal prosecution against the President of the Russian Federation. To make it completely clear, they also hit the presidential standard in the Kremlin. Of course, the "leadership of Russia-for-peace" (though, for some reason, hit with the first smeared fist) and any "negotiation background" suits it, but it takes two to dance the tango.
      1. +9
        16 May 2023 08: 33
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        any "negotiation background" suits him, but in order to dance tango need two

        In the country of pink ponies, they dance well in one!
    2. -1
      16 May 2023 21: 13
      Yes .. we don’t see Swifts on radars, but here if modern litaks with EPR are like a tennis ball
  3. -4
    16 May 2023 03: 29
    with the rules of the game are not particularly accustomed to stand on ceremony.
    They change them in the process! Rounders!
    1. +34
      16 May 2023 05: 44
      What has Russia done to keep them from changing the rules? Criticized about the "multipolar world"? She released Peskov, who shook the air with the words that "our military will respond to these deliveries of missiles." And how did they answer? In Lugansk, it seems that large headquarters were destroyed and it is not excluded, as the author writes, that this was done directly by the NATO military. Just imagine if Russian aviation had shot down the American headquarters, what would have started then! And here they didn’t even call the British ambassador to the Foreign Ministry, they didn’t even recall their ambassador from London - in the same place there is a “rookery” for all sorts of Shuvalovs and other mints with brills, how can you spoil relations with England! So, "vanki", you will have to continue to take the rap for the "gentlemen".
  4. +25
    16 May 2023 03: 30
    Mdaaa ... what the enemy is waging a full-fledged war with us with the entire arsenal of having means of warfare, and we are waging a limited military operation with him with truncated resources and capabilities ... how long will this absurdity continue?
    This question is not for the military, but for Mr. Putin ... the solution of key issues depends on him ... what Roman listed is, of course, interesting but belated.
    The situation began to worsen with each passing hour, when the Kremlin, drawing red lines, did not fulfill its threats ... the enemy stopped being afraid of us and, accordingly, increased its strike capabilities against our Armed Forces.
    It is logical to assume that the GDP will be pressed against the wall someday, so you will either have to fulfill your threats or simply capitulate ... to be or not to be, that is the question now.
    And as I understand it, the NWO does not imply victory over the enemy ... there is only the achievement of goals ... this is very bad ... this is a road to a dead end.
    Undoubtedly, after training Ukrainian pilots at the US and British Air Force bases, we will get the full attraction of indescribable sensations from introducing them into battle on American F-16s with long-range missiles and bombs .. it's not long to wait.
    1. +23
      16 May 2023 06: 36
      Why do you think that we are conducting an operation with limited forces? As I guess, what are - such and we conduct. Everything except nuclear weapons has already been used. This confirms, one can already say, a fact - without nuclear weapons, we will not last even a month against NATO. Something like this
      1. -13
        16 May 2023 07: 02
        We need at least a millionth group of soldiers and officers with everything necessary for a full-fledged offensive operation.
        Now there is a third of this number ... the enemy is hitting on weak flanks ... which are difficult for us to cover for this reason.
        And against NATO, we will even hold out for a very long time ... we can even pinch, don’t mislead the members of the forum ... smile this is more of a political issue than a military one ... Russia has plenty of resources.
        1. +15
          16 May 2023 08: 13
          There are plenty of resources, here I am with both hands. I am not misleading anyone, but simply expressing my opinion, which is based on personal experience of serving in the army, as well as on the methods of conducting military operations by our army. Then I look over major NATO military operations and I get sad. If you have time - look on YouTube "Indigenous channel of workers", if I'm not mistaken. Specifically, about the second operation in Iraq. How it was carried out and what was used for this. 30 years have passed, but our country has not bothered with such types of weapons. It seems that our everything is tank columns and infantry. We have been told for many years about our air defense and electronic warfare, and now we are seeing firsthand how it happens. No, dear, the only thing holding back NATO is nuclear weapons. As soon as, as a result of treaties, it is reduced below a certain level, or they figure out how to disable most of it so that the remaining warheads can be intercepted, we are finished.
        2. +7
          16 May 2023 10: 33
          ".Russia has plenty of resources."
          resources, maybe full, not all have been sold to China yet, but with the mind, tension, at all levels
      2. -4
        16 May 2023 08: 19
        without nuclear weapons, we will not last even a month against NATO

        a bit of a controversial statement. NATO uses its high-tech weapons, which are good in a local limited conflict, when the rear is stable, there is a mat. base, transportation, maintenance, repair.
        In a full-fledged conflict, all these production facilities will be swept away, and they will remain, like us, with conventional weapons.
        1. +5
          16 May 2023 08: 35
          It's also a little controversial. It works both ways, and they have more opportunities. By attacking, they can disorganize the troops. Of course, you can partisan for decades, but, in fact, the war will be lost. But, this is my opinion, I hope it will not come to such experiments. I would not like to continue the conversation during a personal meeting in the trench. Better here. Sincerely
        2. 0
          16 May 2023 12: 08
          Quote: Reaper
          without nuclear weapons, we will not last even a month against NATO

          a bit controversial

          Just not controversial, this is a reality confirmed by the situation at the front on the 447th day of the war. Deaf as in a tank, for now. In autumn, NATO tanks, aircraft, new types of missiles
    2. +4
      16 May 2023 06: 45
      ... the enemy is waging a full-fledged war with us with the entire arsenal of having means of warfare, and we are waging a limited military operation with him with truncated resources and capabilities ...
      It is logical to assume that the GDP will be pressed against the wall someday, so you will either have to fulfill your threats or simply capitulate ...
      And as I understand it, NWO does not imply victory over the enemy ... it’s just the achievement of goals ... this is very bad ... this is a road to a dead end ...

      Dear Lech from Android.
      I fully share your thoughts. You have clearly defined the essence of the current situation.
      Russia will lose because at the current time it does not create any potential threats to the conditional "West". Why does the West have free material, financial resources to provide assistance to Ukraine? Why does Russia not create a tense situation within European countries? Why is the export of any product from Russia, especially critical for the West, not completely stopped? About the ban
      only the lazy did not speak of the withdrawal of finance from Russia.
      The Russian Government has only two options in the current situation:
      1. "Humiliating world" with huge political, economic and financial losses. Further, the political situation in Russia is unstable, getting out of control of the authorities. Trouble. Etc.
      2. Immediately. Declare the end of the NWO and immediately announce the beginning of the national liberation war (since the territory of Russia is occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the help of the West). Restructuring politics, economics and the financial sector to work in the new conditions.
      1. +10
        16 May 2023 07: 13
        Why is the export of any product from Russia, especially critical for the West, not completely stopped?

        Since the West itself is actively engaged in this, this deprives Russia of extremely important export revenues for which the NWO can continue. And Europe has already shown its resilience in the face of problems after the explosion of the gas pipeline. The gas flew away for $3000 and nothing came out of the conflict. We built LNG terminals and other things, and again for $ 400 already gas.
        1. +7
          16 May 2023 07: 43
          [quDote] ... This deprives Russia of extremely important export revenues for which the NWO can continue. [/ Quote]
          Dear BlackMokona.
          Your phrase is like a joke.
          A conversation between two friends.
          - Yesterday I sold a cistern of alcohol.
          - And what about the money?
          - I bought a case of vodka.
          This is a bad, very bad excuse from those people who are tied to business with Europe. By expressing their concerns about Russia, these Russian "businessmen" are getting their margin from deliveries to Europe. They will justify anything. Maybe we will immediately sell weapons, because weapons are more expensive than oil and gas? And the proceeds will be directed to the continuation of the NWO.
          1. +7
            16 May 2023 09: 45
            Maybe we will immediately sell weapons, because weapons are more expensive than oil and gas?

            This is how we sell weapons to NATO countries. How are the deliveries of S-400s to Turkey, which is actively supplying weapons to Ukraine? wassat
        2. +5
          16 May 2023 14: 56
          Gas in Europe is already almost 350/1000 m3! And it tends to decrease further, and summer is just beginning.
      2. -17
        16 May 2023 07: 15
        Our Motherland (Rus, Russian Empire, USSR) has always won a convincing Victory over its enemies in wars of liberation in all periods of our history, when the interests of the People and the Elite coincided. We will win even now if we are united in our desire for Victory over the Enemies.
      3. 0
        16 May 2023 07: 52
        Quote: AA17
        Immediately. Declare the end of the NWO and immediately announce the beginning of the national liberation war (since the territory of Russia is occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the help of the West). Restructuring politics, economics and the financial sector to work in the new conditions.

        Gold words.

        It is always nice to see people who think that the NWO is too cheap for the Russian Federation, and more efforts should be made in this direction: completely break the current economic system, go to war communism.
        1. -1
          16 May 2023 10: 58
          break the current economic system, go to war communism
          Such things are difficult to do at lightning speed. There is no technology, no manpower.
          But slowly "the process has begun" (C) "...Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, April 25, signed a decree "On the temporary management of certain property", according to which Russia can introduce external management of Russian assets of foreign investors as a response to the "unfriendly actions" of the United States and other states that "joined them" on confiscation of property of Russian companies abroad.
          The list of such property in the document so far contains only two energy assets - the German state company Uniper (87,73% stake in the Russian company Unipro) and the Finnish state company Fortum (two stakes for 69,88 and 28,35% of the Russian Fortum, owned by Fortum Russia and Fortum Holding respectively). The Federal Property Management Agency has been appointed their interim manager. “If necessary”, the list of enterprises under external management can be expanded
          " https://www.rbc.ru/business/26/04/2023/6448df6a9a79475b85691e6e
      4. +7
        16 May 2023 10: 40
        "Only the lazy did not talk about the prohibition of the withdrawal of finance from Russia."
        yes, let them take it out, maybe it will be useful there laughing . any money stored on the territory of Russia automatically turns into cut paper, because no one wants to revive the domestic economy, industry and agriculture, and in 10 years no one will be able to. bloggers, tiktokers and taxi drivers do not affect the economy in any way, and specialists will soon die out as a class
    3. +9
      16 May 2023 06: 58
      According to the annual course of the NMD, Putin does not deserve to remain in the post of Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2024, and this year 2023 has not ended yet ...

      Enough old men - impotent in the top political and military leadership of the Russian Federation - the new Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should be a young wolf 40 - 50 years old, cruel and smart like I.V. Stalin, who will immediately return the death penalty to the Russian Federation with a complete confiscation of everything property and clean it from the RSPP, oligarchs and liberals.
      1. +3
        16 May 2023 08: 32
        In the meantime, Putin has instructed the RSPP to rewrite the Criminal Code as "their nobility" pleases. People who received fabulous profits for 2022 and who do not participate in the "SVO" in any way will also indicate to "Znamensky with Tomins and Kibrit" how to salute.
      2. +10
        16 May 2023 11: 46
        who will immediately return the death penalty to the Russian Federation with the complete confiscation of all property
        Here is what is missing - the death penalty. Are you interested in guilt/innocence? So, without restoring order in the judicial system, immediately execute, and even with confiscation?
        It does not bother that Serdyukov did not bear any criminal responsibility. And those who now steal will not even get a scolding. Where did they get the idea that they would be shot for major theft, and not for the conditional "three spikelets" or switchmen?
      3. -2
        16 May 2023 18: 49
        Ask at your leisure how the harsh but fair punishment of Hussein's supporters in post-Saddam Iraq ended
    4. +5
      16 May 2023 09: 04
      And more than a year ago, your comments were more enthusiastic. hi
    5. +7
      16 May 2023 10: 04
      "Tactics without strategy - vanity before defeat" (c)
    6. +6
      16 May 2023 10: 29
      "the enemy is waging a full-fledged war with us with the entire arsenal of having means of warfare, and we are waging a limited military operation with him"
      the enemy is playing with our troops like with a kitten, gradually mastering Western weapons. but ours are fighting with all the forces that are available, which is why it turns out so weakly
    7. -3
      16 May 2023 12: 58
      I personally don’t have any questions for Putin, everything is very clear with him, and since this war is not for one year, the only question is for his successor, what will he do, fight or also chew and smear snot
  5. +7
    16 May 2023 03: 30
    In-in, I immediately thought about the combination of the F-16 with the JASSM-ER.
  6. +10
    16 May 2023 04: 00
    It has long been clear that NATO, and the West as a whole, is implementing Operation Anaconda. Everything is carefully thought out to the smallest detail. Both militarily and economically. Following will be a blow to Moscow. According to the General Staff headed by the Great, insidious and unpredictable Gerasimov, and in the toilet of the President.
    How can we or should we respond? Tell the truth to the citizens of the country and announce a general mobilization. Update command with capable military commanders. Forge weapons according to the laws of war. Nationalize all defense and raw material enterprises.
    The fact that the transport network of Ukraine has not been destroyed is a direct betrayal.
    And fight, fight for real, otherwise not only Crimea and Donbass will be taken away from us, but also half of Russia. soldier
    1. +32
      16 May 2023 05: 02
      And what will this universal mobilized army fight? T-62 in this case is not enough for all mobilized. Shells, with an increase in the number of artillery, the same will not arise from the air. And the planes will not be built. It is necessary to disrupt the logistics of arms supplies, at any cost. The West, he, too, has not yet begun to fight in full force.
      1. +17
        16 May 2023 09: 59
        And what will this universal mobilized army fight?

        I am also interested in commentators who piously believe that everyone just wants to lay a head for our oligarchs and the leader.
        Right in the same rush, yeah.
        Passionaries have already died there, there is nothing left.
        With such a total mobilization, the people will try to get drunk somewhere, so as not to be beaten.
    2. +17
      16 May 2023 06: 55
      Quote: V.
      and declare a general mobilization.

      As a result of these actions, modern, high-precision weapons will not appear in the required quantities.
      1. -15
        16 May 2023 09: 38
        It will appear, if you don’t want to sit in a trench with a machine gun, come up with modern high-precision weapons. soldier
        1. +6
          16 May 2023 11: 01
          Quote: V.
          It will appear, if you don’t want to sit in a trench with a machine gun, come up with modern high-precision weapons. soldier

          And where to produce invented? And from what?
          Or do you, like our liberal economists, think that money itself is automatically converted into a commodity? wink
          1. -7
            16 May 2023 13: 37
            There are still factories, and there are a lot of materials in general, especially after deliveries to the West have decreased or stopped altogether. And there are people who can think of a lot of things
            The problem is incompetent leaders, unwillingness to work with gifted engineers and scientists. soldier
            1. +2
              16 May 2023 18: 53
              Chips from a heap of the purest silicon with germanium will not be born on their own. And the development of the production of devices for photolithography is a task for five years
  7. +12
    16 May 2023 04: 04
    Quote: V.
    And fight, fight for real, otherwise not only Crimea and Donbass will be taken away from us, but also half of Russia

    The Kremlin does not want to fight for real ... it was clearly said by the leadership that the NWO needed not victory, but the achievement of goals ... but these are still different things.
    1. +5
      16 May 2023 04: 22
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      that SVO needs not a victory

      And the name is - OWN, but they don’t fight with their own! am
  8. +3
    16 May 2023 04: 20
    What comes to mind, besides military-technical measures... Anonymous strikes on overseas military bases and British oil and gas platforms. In style - it fell on its own ... By what means? Here xs, but it is quite possible to build drones on an imported kit for a specific task, as well as launch them in a roundabout way from some kind of ship.
    1. +23
      16 May 2023 05: 07
      Our leadership is more concerned about the launch of the ammonia pipeline than any kind of response.
      1. Eug
        +11
        16 May 2023 06: 58
        And the flow of gas through Ukraine increased by 23% - so as not to let down "European partners" (although, most likely, "in favor" of Hungary, which rather quietly receives its benefits).
  9. +10
    16 May 2023 05: 05
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    it is quite possible to build drones on an imported kit for a specific task, as well as launch them in a roundabout way from some kind of ship.

    This is just one of the bad things ... you can cut various Internet cables and communications laid in Britain, you can hand over MI-6 agents to bad and vindictive guys around the world.
    You can organize acts of sabotage and technical accidents associated with British companies ... you can pour a bunch of all sorts of poop into the British skirts ...
    But when you read that Dvorkovich settled in the USA, Chubais in Italy, Alfred Koch in Germany, Kozyrev in Florida, etc. And they live there ... enjoy life on the Anglo-Saxons’ suction, you understand that none of this will happen ... all again rests there... up.
    Peskov's pearls are proof of this.
    1. +3
      16 May 2023 05: 48
      Do you have the entire list of MI6 agents?
      1. -4
        16 May 2023 06: 01
        Quote from Vrotkompot
        Do you have the entire list of MI6 agents?

        smile Dreaming is not harmful ... if I had one, I would have put up such an account for the British government ... we would have cried for a century.
        And so, using the open press, you are trying to figure out where the British are climbing with their agents ... alas, I am not Bortnikov or Naryshkin ... I don’t have their capabilities. request
      2. +16
        16 May 2023 06: 41
        Quote from Vrotkompot
        Do you have the entire list of MI6 agents?

        Why not agents, they live on something and do not cry.
        -----------
        Former Russian Deputy Prime Ministers live:
        Ilya Klebanov - Israel;
        Alfred Koch - Germany;
        Arkady Dvorkovich - USA;
        Alexander Khloponin - Israel;
        Alexey Kudrin - Israel;
        Jacob Urinson - Israel;
        Maxim Akimov - Israel;
        Anatoly Chubais - Italy;
        Igor Shuvalov - Austria;
        Victor Khristenko - Spain;
        Olga Golodets - Spain.
        ---------
        You have to "be able" to live and settle in this way. The list could go on for a couple more pages.
      3. -1
        16 May 2023 21: 08
        Quote from Vrotkompot
        Do you have the entire list of MI6 agents?
        Get ahead! lol
  10. +6
    16 May 2023 05: 16
    Quote from: blackGRAIL
    Our leadership is more concerned about the launch of the ammonia pipeline than any kind of response.

    That's for sure ... there is an account of profits for interested parties in the Kremlin and London and at the UN smile goes for billions of dollars ... there is such a swamp that if someone encroaches on this sacred cow, his head will be turned away quickly. request
    Recently, GDP slipped the Finns and Germans byaku ... taking away their generating capacities ... I learned a lot of interesting things about the foreign owners of our strategic sectors of the Russian economy ... such a mafia ... mother don't cry.
    The Odessa transshipment port is cherished like the apple of an eye, avoiding inflicting any blows on it. what
    In a word, the mafia is immortal.
  11. -3
    16 May 2023 05: 59
    I don’t understand one thing, why don’t we “play this game together”? Okay, we rested our foreheads, we don’t move, we don’t take it out, but the battlefield at the current stage, okay ... Then why not exemplarily stick suppliers on the principle of "supply Ukrainians weapons against us - don't be surprised if they fly from us" ? What prevents us from organizing some next IRA and arming it with everything we want, from riflemen to KR? And to the indignation "what are we for?" calmly explain that while they arm Ukraine against us, we will arm the Irish (Scots, Indians, Zulus, underline as necessary)! And with this we immediately kill a whole herd of hares:
    1. Political "blow to cabbage soup" and other costs.
    2. Serious distraction of intelligence agencies from us in pursuit of ghosts.
    3. A serious reason to refrain from deliveries for any hesitant.
    4. Causing incidental damage to infrastructure, logistics and stocks.
    What's stopping it?
    1. +8
      16 May 2023 06: 17
      It interferes with the fact that the goals are different. And they won't tell you about them. And there have been no separatists in the West for a long time, but there are puppet elites who represent the adherence to the dem. values.
    2. +4
      16 May 2023 06: 59
      Quote from: NeBezMenya
      What prevents us from organizing some next IRA and arming it with everything we want, from riflemen to KR?

      This must be done. Can we? And those who will be armed should still believe us. There are such?
      1. +3
        16 May 2023 08: 36
        Who to believe? Exhibiting a guard of honor at the Mausoleum during the visit of the President of Cuba and draping it on Victory Day?
    3. +5
      16 May 2023 07: 23
      Quote from: NeBezMenya
      What's stopping it?

      )))
      Nothing interferes. On the contrary, it is always nice to see people who think that the Russian Federation does not have enough enemies and not enough problems now.
      1. -8
        16 May 2023 13: 10
        Quote: Negro
        Nothing interferes. On the contrary, it is always nice to see people who think that the Russian Federation does not have enough enemies and not enough problems now.
        There are enough problems, now it is necessary to organize problems for the enemy. And let them try to come up with new sanctions. Well, or immediately go to the third world.
        1. +3
          16 May 2023 16: 45
          Quote: bk0010
          Well, or immediately go to the third world.

          So right away to the third world? Do you think anyone will buy into this joke?
          1. -2
            16 May 2023 16: 59
            That’s the whole simple saying: it doesn’t make sense to hit Zelensky, but it’s impossible to hit the States, because. the threat of a third world. So we will not beat at all, but let them continue.
          2. -6
            16 May 2023 17: 48
            Quote: Negro
            So right away to the third world? Do you think anyone will buy into this joke?
            And what is the joke? Is it bad to nullify the superiority of the enemy in the industrial, mobilization and military potential at once? Anything is better than waiting for their first strike.
            1. -7
              16 May 2023 18: 03
              Quote: bk0010
              Quote: Negro
              So right away to the third world? Do you think anyone will buy into this joke?
              And what is the joke? Is it bad to nullify the superiority of the enemy in the industrial, mobilization and military potential at once? Anything is better than waiting for their first strike.

              A little pepper in your salad: you are now arguing with a Khokhl now living in the States wink lol
              1. +4
                16 May 2023 19: 52
                Yes, even with a Chilean living in a cave on Chomolungma .. how does this affect the essence of words?
                1. -6
                  16 May 2023 21: 50
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  How does this affect the essence of words?

                  The person here is at work, and the meaning of his words is determined precisely by this. advisor laughing
            2. +1
              16 May 2023 18: 58
              It seems that they calculated - the Americans suffer less losses simply due to the greater decentralization of the population
            3. The comment was deleted.
          3. +5
            16 May 2023 17: 57
            Hmm, the Third World War is impossible, if only because the first two world wars were fought on almost the entire globe between two groups of states. Few, like Switzerland, practiced neutrality.

            A war in which a group of states in the Northern Hemisphere can conduct a database with only one state (another one will express moral support / "stand next to me") - does not draw on the name of the "Third World War".
            This, if it happens, is not even a "missed NATO-ATS battle", much less in terms of territories and troops.
  12. +3
    16 May 2023 06: 21
    Quote: Vladimir80
    It interferes with the fact that the goals are different. And they won't tell you about them.

    There are class contradictions between the "elite" and the interests of the peoples of Russia ... request again the old rake ahead of us waiting.
    1. +3
      16 May 2023 06: 49
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Quote: Vladimir80
      It interferes with the fact that the goals are different. And they won't tell you about them.

      There are class contradictions between the "elite" and the interests of the peoples of Russia ... request again the old rake ahead of us waiting.

      Yes, all this will eventually end and not very good. There is no "elite" in our country, but there is an elite who has completely lost the feeling of self-preservation from The Hague. Some smeared snot and indistinct mustache signals.
  13. +8
    16 May 2023 06: 37
    . Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

    Let the guards answer this question for us, who poisoned (and continue to poison) us with their toxic thoughts. Say, why did you get the idea that there should be a blitzkrieg?
    Time works for us. We are not in a hurry. We are grinding, and we do not need the territory - this is not the main thing!
    1. +9
      16 May 2023 07: 19
      I won’t be surprised that in a year, another SVO will have Ukraine and its non-nuclear submarines with tomahawks on board, and missile boats and fighters with NATO bombers. And what, Russian diplomacy is like a rubber woman right now, inflate it as much as you like and do whatever you want with it, it won’t say a word. Is it about the "red lines"
    2. +8
      16 May 2023 07: 32
      Quote: Stas157
      Let the guards answer this question for us, who poisoned (and continue to poison) us with their toxic thoughts.

      Greetings Stas! hi Speaking of guardians - have you noticed that recently many have merged?
      1. -13
        16 May 2023 07: 42
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Speaking of guardians - have you noticed that recently many have merged?
        Someone has business, but someone is sick of watching every day how the Putinslilovites with cissoshniks are hammering in the gums.
        1. +20
          16 May 2023 07: 50
          Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
          Someone's got things to do

          What business can be for the Judas, who here for years sang "All is well, beautiful marquise" and praised the outfits of the naked king?
          If we make a rating, according to the level of harm caused to Russia, then the guards will be in the first place, far ahead of the bulk and tsipsot. I hope the time will come, and all this protection will get what it deserves, keeping Navalny company.
      2. +5
        16 May 2023 09: 29
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Speaking of guardians - have you noticed that recently many have merged?

        Greetings Igor! hi I can’t wait for the moment when they will be driven by these same rags!))
      3. +8
        16 May 2023 10: 01
        Speaking of guards - I noticed that recently many have merged

        and it seemed to me that some of them "changed their shoes", but instead of them, new accounts of "sedators" appeared
      4. +1
        16 May 2023 12: 15
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Stas157
        Let the guards answer this question for us, who poisoned (and continue to poison) us with their toxic thoughts.

        Greetings Stas! hi Speaking of guardians - have you noticed that recently many have merged?

        I don’t consider myself a guardian, but the level of discussions has dropped to zero in the last six months. There was no dialogue with thoughts - with which you can agree or not.
        Interesting opponents disappeared - with whom one could argue, agree or not ...
        Arguing for the sake of arguing - not seeing in response the facts that somehow refute your opinions, and opponents only blaze with anger - boring ...
        There was a mumbling of the level "Everyone is bad! Smersh! Martial law! Stalin is gone!!" ...
        Z.Y.
        The most anecdotal thing is that the first sentence is mumbled "Bunker dwarf!" And then "Urgent martial law!" - without realizing that any (!!!!!!) power under conditions martial law immediately begins to shut the mouths of those who disagree ..
        Automatically....
        1. +5
          16 May 2023 12: 32
          Quote: your1970
          I don’t consider myself a guardian, but the level of discussions has dropped to zero in the past six months

          You are the guardian. For years you have been campaigning here absolutely for all the decisions of the authorities, for any game. Recently, the treacherous essence of the vertical of power has been exposed, and your counterarguments have become simply ridiculous.
          About
          Quote: your1970
          "All bad! Smersh! Martial law! Stalin is gone!!"

          - do not agree? Lagging behind on all counts, from communications, drones, medicine, to banal projectiles of the shaggy Soviet era. Why did this happen, and who is responsible? Not tired of justifying the width of the red lines?
          1. -4
            16 May 2023 17: 11
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            You are the guardian. For years you have been campaigning here absolutely for all the decisions of the authorities, for any game.

            Zvizdet - do not roll bags. Find at least one praise I have the current power.
            Maximum-comparison when и Soviet authority и the current ones do not look very good (mat).
            Apparently you accepted criticism of the Soviet government - for praising the current ....
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Backlog on all points, from communication,
            - and when was communication in the army without delay with us? Do you consider this R-124 a connection ???? in 1989, UN officers came to us in Kushka to observe the withdrawal - they then had walkie-talkies (small Motorolas) that got further than our R-124 coffins. They freely communicated with their base station in the hotel, and we ran to the hill to shout to our communication center.
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Why did this happen, and who is responsible
            for it was in the USSR???? Who pumped all the microelectronics in the USSR by the end of the 1970s? Why did radio amateurs look for a "diamond" - because their parameters were relatively respected, and everything else was spread from the Moon to Mars ....
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            medicine
            - yeah, yeah ... rubber bands of the 1950s produced in the USSR were not used for machine guns in Afghanistan, no-no-no ....
            And this was in the war - in the average military unit in the Union, medicine was like soldiers' nightstands - inside it's all the same on the line "and God forbid you unpack the soap!!".
            In Kushka in 1989, there was an acute outbreak of dysentery in the division - everyone, up to and including the commander, shitted.
            Well, my mother worked in the SES, handed over several packages with a summer vacationer. She saved a heavy howitzer artillery regiment ....
            You can only remember about civilian medicine - I already gave you a bunch of examples about its "best" and especially accessibility ...
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            banal shells of a sample of shaggy Soviet times
            - Why do they not suit you? From the technical side, what? They don't have GLONAS? I agree, it can probably be bad .. I can’t judge what problems the guided projectiles have now - I didn’t shoot them ...
            No one in the world has progress in barrel artillery - everything, plus or minus, rested on the ceiling of actively reactive

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Not tired of justifying the width of the red lines?

            - find me at least one excuse "red lines. At least one...

            Also, double standards piss me off. And they will annoy..
            If you give the formula
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            the treacherous essence of the vertical of power was exposed,

            then with almost the same words, the people (the then Ingvars!) swore at the "Leninist guard" and demanded death - the Rykovs, Kamenevs, Zinovievs ....
            Who brought them to power?
            "Putin????!!!" (c)
            Moreover, the anecdotal situation is crazy with them
            - either "bad" Lenin brought them to power, and "good" Stalin shot
            - either "good" Lenin brought them to power, and "bad" Stalin shot.
            And who should consider the Zinoviev-Rykov vertical of power after that?

            And so in everything - wherever you dig
            1. +4
              16 May 2023 18: 31
              Quote: your1970
              Zvizdet - not tossing bags. Find at least one praising of the current government with me.

              Don't be shy, Sergei. Either your salaries and pensions are decent, or the meat is cheap. You begin to compare the current life with the USSR, so even with an obvious lag at times behind the indicators of the Union, you begin to look for shortcomings not in the current system, but in the USSR.
              Everyone who has been on the site for a long time knows you and remembers who you are. Remote approval.
              Quote: your1970
              in 1989 UN officers came to us in Kushka

              The decline of the Union, it is silly to compare it. Akin to comparing the activity indicators of a dying person.
              1. +4
                16 May 2023 19: 04
                The ideology of the enemies of the USSR "everything was bad in the USSR", but about their anti-Soviet period they have "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists and security officers to blame", "and we have nothing to do with it, it was in the USSR, we still disentangle ".
              2. -2
                16 May 2023 19: 08
                I was more confident in your adequacy :belay recourse what
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                your pensions are decent

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                meat is cheap.

                I don't have any post about decent wages and pensions, nor about "cheap meat"
                No post in 10 years.There is none of them...
                I never wrote about pensions / salaries at all.
                He wrote about problems with the supply of meat under the USSR in my particular village - but even there formulas like "right now the meat is cheap!!"(what are you implying!!) no and cannot be. Just because I sold a lot of my piglets and cows in Tolyatti in the 2000s and I know how much meat costs

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The decline of the Union, it is silly to compare it.

                I'm embarrassed to ask - what has changed in the radio-electronic industry since sunset? R-124 stopped riveting or what ?? Were there ideas or was there a bonus from the plan and don't care what the plan is to shit?

                I repeat - you will not be able to cite any of my posts about praise / approval of the actions of the authorities, not a single one.
                You are only capable of throwing slogans, nothing more. You are straining with facts ...
                This is exactly what I wrote about.
                Quote: your1970
                the level of discussions in the last six months has dropped to zero. Dialogue with thoughts - with which you can agree or not - is gone.
                Interesting opponents disappeared - with whom one could argue, agree or not ...
                Arguing for the sake of arguing - not seeing in response facts that somehow refute your opinions, but Opponents only blaze with anger boring ...
                1. +2
                  17 May 2023 08: 34
                  Quote: your1970
                  not about "cheap meat"

                  Have you forgotten our argument about beef prices? wink
                  1. -1
                    17 May 2023 08: 46
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Quote: your1970
                    not about "cheap meat"

                    Have you forgotten our argument about beef prices? wink

                    That is, you have already been modest about pensions / salaries?
                    And about beef, please remind me of my post. If there was one (with the formula that "now meat is cheap") - I will completely stop writing posts on the site in political and military articles
              3. -1
                16 May 2023 21: 48
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Remote approval.

                so what? Did you find it? Or just blah blah blah - without bearing responsibility for the thrown slogans?
                You are a talker....
            2. +5
              16 May 2023 23: 53
              Quote: your1970
              You can only remember about civilian medicine - I already gave you a bunch of examples about its "best" and especially accessibility ...

              This is about today's civilian medicine, you can only use foul language, a year ago I almost fought my way through an x-ray, and with a doctor's referral for suspected pneumonia. In the USSR, I was in the hospital twice, in the nursery - with a common cold, in an adult - with bronchitis. When in my childhood I suddenly had a sharp toothache on the way home from the market, I just went to the clinic and they began to treat it without any dads, moms and documents. In modern Russia, I have never been in a hospital, but I have seen enough, visiting friends and relatives. The general theft of food from the common refrigerator, people come out of there like from a concentration camp, having lost a dozen kilos. When an apple was stolen in a children's hospital in the USSR, it was an emergency with local interrogating nurses.
              1. -2
                17 May 2023 09: 27
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                When in my childhood I suddenly had a sharp toothache on the way home from the market, I just went to the clinic and they began to treat it without any dads, moms and documents.

                1970s, 4 drills at the dentist (one per district of 25) for a week in the clinic of the district center. By pull - because my mother was in charge of the SES laboratory - they drilled a new one ...
                There were usually up to 20 people in the queue, and even my mother’s medical position did not always help me quickly get into the office, I sat for an hour and two and three ...
                Your option - "got sick, came in, cured" - would not have worked for us.
                You would be taken out by the waiting list by the ear on the porch, they would also say pitifully "Go home, mom will heal" .....
                Our trade was sitting in line like cute .....

                A ruble for a duck taken out by veterans in Samara in the early 1980s - I already wrote.

                So that my father was treated in Saratov in 1983 - my mother carried meat. Otherwise, here's an aspirin for you .. "..
                They started to treat for pneumonia; they reached the 2nd group of disability.
                Grandmother needed cocarboxylase GDRovskaya and LIV-52 Indian - they got it with that very mother. They were never in stock in Saratov. Even in Moscow there was a shortage, an uncle got it, a surgeon who pieced together the son of some Asian ambassador after an accident and he periodically passed it on. Now it is in all pharmacies ....
                My father was prescribed meldronate (meldonium lol ) - my mother found a classmate in Riga and she occasionally sent a parcel. There wasn't really anywhere close...
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Gross theft of food from the common refrigerator

                In 1983, he was lying in a nursery in Penza - a lock hung on the refrigerator, in the evening they collected a queue and gave out by family name ... apparently they didn’t have theft, yeah, yeah ...
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                people come out of there like from a concentration camp,

                1) a hospital is not a sanatorium, there will be no weight gain
                2) in the USSR, breaking through to the hospital kitchen as a cook is only by pull. A large volume of food and a field for theft.
            3. -1
              7 September 2023 15: 20
              The guards went into dirty anti-Soviet tales. Is there any abomination that you, the dogs of the regime, are not able to justify?
        2. +2
          16 May 2023 21: 12
          not realizing that any (!!!!!!) authorities under martial law will immediately begin to shut up the mouths of those who disagree ..
          Automatically....
          And without martial law, this does not happen ?! winked
  14. Eug
    +4
    16 May 2023 06: 44
    It is necessary to prepare for what we have been ready for a long time (according to reports, reports, parades, biathlons, "disbursement of funds", etc.). There is nothing new in the guidance system Storm Shadow (hereinafter referred to as ShSh) - a repeat of the Tomahawks control system of the mid-80s, INS + TERCOM. Logically, even the air defense of the USSR was ready to fight them. Another thing is that the air defense density is not the same now - it is optimized, so to speak, and decoys are much cheaper than missiles ... And there is another launch option, as for me, the most likely one - from a heavy drone. A lot of questions will be removed immediately, plus the prospect ...
  15. +1
    16 May 2023 06: 53
    Therefore, you can talk about 560 km of flight, but something tells you that the real range will be less.

    Again our hats flew at the enemy!
    No matter how less, but more - most likely it will be 1000 kilometers.
    And the map, where the zone of 500 kilometers is indicated, is incorrect - Moscow falls into this zone from the border of the Chernihiv region.
  16. -5
    16 May 2023 06: 55
    There is only one way out, I think, to let England go under water, then everyone will really quiet down.
  17. 0
    16 May 2023 07: 00
    Quote from: blackGRAIL
    And what will this universal mobilized army fight? T-62 in this case is not enough for all mobilized.

    Yesterday, the notorious Hellfire555 posted a video about a trainload of Soviet T-64As from Kharkiv. And it turned out that he, being on the side of the Russian Federation, is not so bad. laughing
  18. +1
    16 May 2023 07: 14
    The defensive aspects of the problem are well covered, as is the moral effect of the defeat of the Crimean bridge. But wars are not won on the defensive. The enemy must be destroyed before he kills you.
  19. +11
    16 May 2023 07: 15
    We are waiting for an article from Kirill Ryabov about "little and useless"
    1. +4
      16 May 2023 07: 39
      Quote: Eskobar
      We are waiting for an article from Kirill Ryabov about "little and useless"

      So it was just now.
  20. +9
    16 May 2023 07: 20
    ))
    Chronicles of the 15th month of the three-day liberation campaign crossed out enter and exit, an adventure for two hours:
    Declared for delivery / found on the ground:
    1. KR.
    2. Anti-radar missiles.
    3. Planning bombs, new and alterations.
    4. Winged decoys.
    5. NURS (Hydra/Zuni).

    Since last summer, somewhere on a distant beach, anti-ship missiles Harpoon have been lying around.

    The main topic of further demilitarization is the supply of aviation (F-16 / Eurofighter / Tornado). The official statement about the destruction of the Dagger means that the issue of the safe basing of aircraft has been resolved - which was one of the important arguments "against" such deliveries. At the same time, it is the official statement that is important, and not the real state of affairs.

    A few months ago, I thought that the decision to extend the NWO for 2024 would be made based on the results of the spring awakening, so to speak. However, judging by the statements at the moment, the decision has already been made - although the Nazi offensive has not yet begun.

    Speaking of aviation. A fighter bomber just posted a first-class Murzik-style whine about an incident in the Bryansk region. All three versions he proposed: the operation of the Nazi long-range air defense system right at the ribbon, the appearance of the Nazi AIM-120 (and the Nazi F-22, khe-khe), the failure of the state recognition system - a miracle how good. Even better is his assumption that the task of the investigation will be the appointment of the perpetrators (or even winding up the issue), and not the establishment of the circumstances of the incident.
  21. +9
    16 May 2023 07: 37
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Quote: V.
    And fight, fight for real, otherwise not only Crimea and Donbass will be taken away from us, but also half of Russia

    The Kremlin does not want to fight for real ... it was clearly said by the leadership that the NWO needed not victory, but the achievement of goals ... but these are still different things.

    It is necessary to appoint Prigozhin as commander-in-chief, let's take a dozen more high-rise buildings.
  22. +2
    16 May 2023 07: 55
    Quote: Stas157
    . Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

    Let the guards answer this question for us, who poisoned (and continue to poison) us with their toxic thoughts. Say, why did you get the idea that there should be a blitzkrieg?
    Time works for us. We are not in a hurry. We are grinding, and we do not need the territory - this is not the main thing!


    The toxic guard replies:

    1. You need to prepare for attacks on headquarters, warehouses, supply lines for ammunition, fuel and water. The Crimean bridge is in the priority of goals.

    2. What should be done right now? Disperse personnel and warehouses, increase camouflage measures, set decoys, dig ditches and mine tank-dangerous directions.
    Stretch nets over positions, cover trenches with boards and turf. If possible, make normal bunkers or their simplified counterparts.
    Prepare spare positions. In the steppes to have dispersed supplies of drinking water. Send liaison delegates from infantry to artillery/tanks acting as self-propelled guns/front-line aviation, if there are any left.

    3. What should be done for the next three months?
    Ensure the manufacture of a unified communication system, finally.

    4. What to do in the future for six months?
    Provide reconnaissance equipment to detect missile launches and aircraft takeoffs, at least from the territory of the former Ukraine.
    Provide means of hitting targets throughout the depths of the former Ukraine.

    5. What not to do?
    Fight forehead in frontal attacks.
    1. 0
      16 May 2023 08: 45
      Within the framework of the proposed measures, it is necessary to consider the liberation of Odessa-Nikolaev-Dnepr. If there is no strength and skill for this, then it is time to evacuate the Black Sea Fleet to the east. Sevastopol is the same priority goal as the Crimean bridge.
    2. +5
      16 May 2023 10: 11
      The toxic guard replies:

      everything is so, only if this has not been done in 15 months, then there are no opportunities and it is unwise to expect changes for the better in the future
  23. +3
    16 May 2023 07: 59
    well, they said this ominous word - jassm. scrap (or scalpel) from which the armed forces of the Russian Federation have no reception. tears will be shed for a cat, mice - it will reach Moscow, as well as most power plants in the European part. and in the western arsenals there are no less terrible gizmos - reaper / predator, f35 and. etc.
  24. -2
    16 May 2023 08: 19
    The calculation is pretty simple. Ukraine is now fully supported by the West, the United States is on the verge of a default, the EU economy also, to put it mildly, does not shine without Russian gas. Every month, Ukraine is getting harder and harder for the West, everyone is rushing the cocaine addict into the offensive for a reason. The Russian Federation must repulse the offensive by destroying the main fist, after this it seems that a lot will be curtailed with the help of the West, then a political game will begin, in which Putin definitely knows how.
  25. +8
    16 May 2023 08: 46
    I remember how everyone made fun of the American Tomahawks in Syria, where our and Syrian air defenses shot down dozens of them under the brave reports of the narrator of fairy tales Konashenkov. Everyone somehow forgot that in addition to the United States, there are at least a dozen countries that themselves or jointly produce many different missiles of different classes, quite modern and high-tone. Yes, and the United States itself fired old Tomahawks in Syria more for disposal than for military success. The United States has a lot of modern new missiles that are dangerous for us. And the fact that the UK, and the French (and other countries will follow) are supplying cruise missiles to Ukraine, is just flowers. Behind them will fall everything that is going to do much harm to us, to cause colossal damage. For there is a phrase - do not say gop until you jump over. With its empty threats of harsh responses to the crossing of red lines, the Kremlin itself paved the way for such impudence for the West. They understood that the Russian leadership was bluffing and bluffing. That's all. So we need to prepare for the worst. Do not lose heart, fight back, win in the NWO and the confrontation with NATO. And after... After that, remember and ask questions to those who led us to this mess.
  26. -3
    16 May 2023 08: 46
    Rocket from Raptor. Raptor from Lask airfield in Poland. Testing stealth.

    In NATO, offensives begin with the suppression of air defenses with stealth. hi
    1. +1
      16 May 2023 10: 02
      Quote: Arzt
      Rocket from Raptor. Raptor from Lask airfield in Poland. Testing stealth.

      fool
      Do not smack nonsense
      Everything that the F-22 can carry (it doesn’t matter if it takes off from Poland or Chukotka)

      Built-in 20 mm M61A2 Vulcan cannon with 480 rounds.
      3 internal weapon bays:
      In air-to-air mode:
      in the main compartment (under the fuselage):
      6 UR air-to-air AIM-120C AMRAAM. and
      in the side: 1 SD air-to-air AIM-9 Sidewinder
      In air-to-ground mode:
      in the main compartment (under the fuselage):
      2 UR air-to-air AIM-120C AMRAAM and
      2 guided 450 kg GBU-32 JDAM bombs
      in the side: 1 SD air-to-air AIM-9 Sidewinder
      As an air superiority aircraft:
      in the main compartment (under the fuselage):
      6 UR air-to-air AIM-120C AMRAAM. and
      in the side: 1 SD air-to-air AIM-9 Sidewinder
      On 4 external nodes
      4 AIM-120C AMRAAM and 2 2271 l PTB
      As a long-range fighter:
      in the main compartment (under the fuselage):
      6 UR air-to-air AIM-120C AMRAAM. and
      in the side: 1 SD air-to-air AIM-9 Sidewinder
      On 4 external nodes
      8 AIM-120C AMRAAM and 4 2271 l PTB

      PySy, he doesn’t even have equipment for entering a flight mission for Terkom
  27. -3
    16 May 2023 09: 32
    The military all previous years were preparing to fight terrorists from Africa, but it was necessary to fight terrorists from Europe and North America. Now, of course, it’s hard to rebuild, especially for all sorts of old farts like Chemezov-Shoigu.
  28. +5
    16 May 2023 09: 45
    Quote: S. Viktorovich
    Within the framework of the proposed measures, it is necessary to consider the liberation of Odessa-Nikolaev-Dnepr. If there is no strength and skill for this, then it is time to evacuate the Black Sea Fleet to the east. Sevastopol is the same priority goal as the Crimean bridge.


    About Odessa and the other coast:

    By what means to attack, under what conditions, who will have air supremacy, advantage in reconnaissance and long-range strikes?
    How to cross the Dnieper, and why?
    How to storm Dnepropetrovsk, and how much more is this city than Bakhmut?
    Will we have time to build a pyramid of curb stone in Moscow during this time?
    If there is a landing in Bessarabia, how to provide supplies? Shall we send a ship or is it better to mobilize the yachts of the oligarchs?
    How to cover the landing from missile strikes in the bare steppe?
    I wanted to joke about the help in this matter of some media clowns, but there is no mood.

    I didn’t quite understand, should the Black Sea Fleet be evacuated to the Far East?
    1. -5
      16 May 2023 14: 28
      In the 18th century, the future Odessa and Ishmael were liberated. No need for air supremacy. By the way, it is not clear why it is not?
    2. +1
      16 May 2023 18: 17
      ""I did not quite understand, the Black Sea Fleet should be evacuated to the Far East?"
      yes, still partially intact
  29. +3
    16 May 2023 10: 07
    as well as TERCOM (maps of the area). Plus, the rocket has a bank of maps with terrain in height and is equipped with radar altimeters.

    This is not a "plus", this is TERCOM.
  30. +7
    16 May 2023 10: 18
    Quote: chingachguc
    every day they appear in batches

    Are you completely wooden or only waist-deep? Import substitution has been successfully carried out since 14 years. Everything is replaced in batches, even a whole site with reports has been made - "made by us" is called. There are ten of these articles a week.
    But do you see it yourself? To not on TV? That's really chingachkuk
  31. -4
    16 May 2023 10: 39
    You need to fight quickly, otherwise tactical nuclear weapons will be delivered sooner or later
  32. +2
    16 May 2023 11: 32
    It is believed that the S-400 multifunctional air defense radars and the S-300 illumination and guidance radars of all modifications will be able to detect and capture Storm Shadow flying at an altitude of 50 meters at a distance of no more than 16-18 km. This is an assumption made by specialists from the MDV channel, but with the proviso that it will be possible to really clarify this only in the course of combat work.

    Mdya ... Putting a "fence" from the radar in increments of 25 km or so, is this without taking into account the terrain? I'm afraid we won't make it :(
    1. -3
      16 May 2023 14: 52
      Alternatively, (why don't they?) you can use cell towers. There are many of them, communications are connected to them. Put the radar, optics and network.
  33. 0
    16 May 2023 12: 08
    Then: put the radar on the highest point of the terrain and 24 hours of air defense duty.
  34. +3
    16 May 2023 12: 47
    all eight Storm Shadows were shot down.
    ... in Moscow, at a press conference, the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense demonstrated parts of the Storm Shadow rocket ...

    That is, they proved that at least one missile was shot down or showed all 8 shot down missiles? These are slightly different cases.
    1. +4
      16 May 2023 13: 37
      Quote from: Alex_mech
      That is, they proved that at least one missile was shot down or showed all 8 shot down missiles?

      But how do you know if it was shot down, or exploded itself? I didn't find that press conference video. The Syrians showed a couple of indistinct fragments.
  35. +8
    16 May 2023 13: 09
    Everything will be within the framework of the game, which is determined by the British and American gentlemen. And they, as you know, are not particularly used to ceremony with the rules of the game.

    Are there any rules that prohibit the supply of weapons? Or just unpleasant, everyone was sure that there would be a game of giveaway, and then they were supplying some kind of weapon. It's not fair, we didn't agree on that?!
  36. +3
    16 May 2023 13: 10
    Compared to Ryabov's article a la "they won't succeed" - a very informative and balanced article.
  37. +9
    16 May 2023 13: 19
    Quote: Boris Sergeev
    What should be the level of our "geostrategists" who led to such a situation?

    They really planned a "police operation", they really did not have a "plan B", they really were sure that "Europe would freeze", "Ukraine would be greeted with flowers", etc. and so on. Their level is "children". And now they are looking for someone to blame.
    1. +1
      16 May 2023 13: 47
      I think there was plan B, and plan D and D ... or maybe even more - it's another matter that none of the "scenarios" worked (because they were even weaker than plan A) ... now plan P, as I understand it - wait at any cost for a change of president in the United States (another unsuccessful plan).
    2. -2
      16 May 2023 14: 15
      Yes, there is a mistake in planning. But we have been fighting for a year, there must be conclusions. The government has grown together with big business, and big business is just one hand for the Russian Federation, the other for the EU. Until we put everything exactly in its place, it will be very difficult to win , if possible. This is what slows down the war. All methods of blackmail, threats, negotiations, up to and including physical elimination, are needed here.
  38. 0
    16 May 2023 13: 38
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Do they have the army, which in formally non-war time can participate in the NWO only with part of its forces?

    Does "formally unused time" mean additional mobilization, the use of strategic aviation and navy? In my opinion, the name of the SVO does not affect the essence in any way.
  39. +3
    16 May 2023 13: 49
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    the enemy is waging a full-fledged war with us with the entire arsenal of having means of warfare, and we are waging a limited military operation with him with reduced resources and capabilities

    Well, yes, the army + tactical aviation + strategic aviation + navy ... Only the Strategic Missile Forces have not yet been involved. As well as on the other hand, by the way.
  40. +5
    16 May 2023 13: 56
    Quote: AA17
    2. Immediately. Announce the end of the NWO and immediately announce the beginning of the national liberation war

    For this, everyone (all the people) must believe. And judging by the fact that the people do not rush into the trenches, your idea will not work out. Personally, you are not going to "war for liberation" are you?
  41. -3
    16 May 2023 14: 12
    Perhaps one Zircon on Big Ben (without I equipment) could return sober thinking to the Britons.
    1. +4
      16 May 2023 21: 22
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      Perhaps one Zircon on Big Ben (without I equipment) could return sober thinking to the Britons.
      And where do you come from ... active?! winked
      And if they respond with the same bullshit to a symbolic place, what will you do?
  42. +3
    16 May 2023 14: 41
    Quote: S. Viktorovich
    In the 18th century, the future Odessa and Ishmael were liberated. No need for air supremacy. By the way, it is not clear why it is not?

    Well, how would you say it easier. Imagine Suvorov storming Izmail with stone axes.
  43. +3
    16 May 2023 14: 43
    Quote: Lena Petrova
    Perhaps one Zircon on Big Ben (without I equipment) could return sober thinking to the Britons.

    First, try to shoot at Zelensky's office.
  44. -1
    16 May 2023 14: 50
    Announced a version for launch from a ship cell
  45. +4
    16 May 2023 15: 35
    Quote: AlexKruglov1976
    Putin does not deserve to remain in the post of Supreme Commander

    And who will remove him from this position? Interesting to know.
  46. -1
    16 May 2023 15: 35
    Hamsters burst into a fart!
    …………
  47. +5
    16 May 2023 15: 37
    Quote: V.
    According to the General Staff headed by the Great, insidious and unpredictable Gerasimov, and through the toilet of the President

    Why is this? If everything is going well, why trade a handy fool for someone unpredictable?
  48. +2
    16 May 2023 15: 39
    Quote: V.
    It will appear, if you don’t want to sit in a trench with a machine gun, come up with modern high-precision weapons.

    I have already come up with something called "do not sit in a trench", sit in another country and watch from the sidelines. I think many will come to such an idea and you will be left alone in the trench.
  49. +3
    16 May 2023 16: 11
    How to pair the Su24M with an English missile - take a single-platinum computer (for example, Razper Pie) and simulate a little initializing analog signals from the Su-24M into digital (overseas winked ) to the rocket and back, that "all pre-launch procedures have passed, you can unhook"
  50. -3
    16 May 2023 17: 01
    Normal modern rocket. But our air defense officers exist in order to shoot them down. At the same time, our air defense systems are an order of magnitude better than the most modern foreign ones. There are now these missiles in the arsenal of the Ukrainians, which means that we must be ready to shoot them down. To do this, it would be necessary to be able to control the airspace over the former Ukrainian SSR from high altitudes in order to identify signs of the use of missiles of this type.
  51. -4
    16 May 2023 17: 35
    Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

    For what? Meet NATO aviation with their national crews. After all, the operators of Western air defense systems are probably also the crews of the countries that supplied these complexes, and previously - the crews of artillery and MLRS. And it seems that the crew of the Leopard, which quickly retreated when meeting our tanks, was also probably not Ukrainian, since the Ukronazis, due to their stubbornness, would have wanted to test the “power” of the received equipment. sad
  52. 0
    16 May 2023 18: 12
    Storm Shadow: what's next, what to prepare for?

    We need to prepare for the worst - for a war until the regions bordering Ukraine are completely depleted.
    The enemies feel comfortable, and with such a birth rate there will be fewer people willing to defend and enrich the Russian bourgeoisie...
    We are pounding water in a mortar so intensely, discussing the SVO strategy, that it’s time to spread the butter on our sandwiches.
    * * *
    The feeling that traitors are working somewhere is intensifying...
  53. -3
    16 May 2023 19: 11
    Quote: Aerodrome
    but understanding people warned that this positional fuss would not lead to good, the longer it drags on, the more modern and better the weapons of Ukraine are. And Roman is right in suspecting the Crimean bridge, I think we will see very soon.

    This is not a mouse fuss. This is the party of “peace” - the defeat of Russia, it has labeled everyone with the letter “Zyu” and is zyuzit the whole country as it wants and as much as it wants.
    Some words - “frightened patriots”, I propose to enter into the annals of world history of defeatist and libidinous-Leberasic decadence.

    P.S. There is a nuclear bomb, but as a last resort, no one will be able to launch it.
  54. +3
    16 May 2023 19: 34
    So. What do we have?
    We have an article. Left 12 hours ago. In the WEAPONS section!
    160 comments!
    And not one, NOT ONE!!! Comments about the rocket itself
    A curtain))
    1. +2
      16 May 2023 21: 23
      What can I say, we can’t shoot it down because we don’t even see it on the radar. There have been no satellites to trace the territory of Ukraine for so many years.
      All we can do is shoot and bomb everything we can reach. And it would be desirable for it to cost us less.
      The strategy of the Persians and Arabs comes in handy here... The Saudis and Jews spend hundreds of millions on anti-missiles, and the Persians spend hundreds of thousands of money, the Arabs spend pieces of pipes, a dozen bags of saltpeter and luminous powder
  55. +1
    16 May 2023 20: 49
    The second option is perhaps no more fantastic than any others. Use of a “rented” aircraft and crew. From the same Royal Air Force of Great Britain. Eurofighter "Typhoon" with Storm Shadow, with a crew that does not need to be taught and trained. And with an airplane that doesn’t need to be rebuilt, everything has already been done
    This is still extremely unlikely...
  56. -1
    16 May 2023 20: 55
    And was it worth waiting until the Ukrainians received more and more modern weapons and it would become more and more difficult to fight? What were you waiting for...
  57. +3
    16 May 2023 21: 19
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    with all the arsenal

    Aren't you funny? US spending on Ukraine did not exceed 0.5% of the Pentagon budget...
    And if they allocate the same amount, and another 10 times that amount
    1000 tomahawks (which ours in Syria didn’t even see on radar, again the EPR is small) at factories, airfield headquarters, and then another 2000 thousand - how will we respond?
    And they are no longer afraid of a nuclear strike

    We would have to hold out until the US default (not in June, but in ten years), and consume as many of NATO’s resources as possible
  58. +1
    16 May 2023 23: 04
    Residents of Donbass and Crimea need not worry. After all, they used to live humbly and resignedly under Bandera in the Ukrainian SSR. And now they will live. But the Russian residents of Kuban (if there are any there) better strain themselves, pack their bags and look for where they can evacuate to Russia, so as not to end up as a Russian-speaking minority. Because Bandera’s people don’t need the 1991 borders. They want Ukraine "from San to Don". And only so. And everyone else will unanimously pay indemnities and reparations and other compensation.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  59. +4
    16 May 2023 23: 25
    Interesting article. But there are comments
    1. The main countermeasure is jamming satellite signals.

    This makes sense only if jamming is carried out along the entire flight route and over the target. If only above the target, then the INS will be enough to guide the missile in the last small area, and then the missile’s seeker will provide accurate guidance.
    If you do not jam it along the entire route, then periodically the rocket will catch satellites, thereby resetting the accumulating INS error.
    Radio altimeter. This is an ordinary locator that works in the vertical plane.

    It is not very common, and it is not very easily suppressed - it has a high directivity of antennas. In addition, there is such a thing as a barometric flight altitude sensor, which works in conjunction with the radar sensor and is capable of independently maintaining the flight altitude for at least some time, while the radar sensor is malfunctioning. Most UAVs, for example, can easily cope with barometric control alone.
    TGSN. Here it is possible, necessary and important to cover important objects with heat traps. They will not lead the modern matrix TGSN with them, but they will blind them and confuse them

    The first problem is what to cover? It is not known in advance in many cases what the goal is. In addition, the high-resolution thermographic camera on this rocket is not the same as the small matrix seeker of the Javelin.
  60. The comment was deleted.
  61. 0
    17 May 2023 10: 47
    Well, at least now the Kremlin will understand that it is necessary to shoot not at Kyiv, the mother of Russian cities, but at the Anglo-Saxons! They are enemies, not Ukraine! Our enemy is not the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but Anglo-Saxon neo-Nazism, whose task is to reduce humanity to a billion, i.e. destroy about 5 billion people! Unfortunately, the Ukrainian Armed Forces became its cover and means of achieving its goal. Until we unite with Ukraine and Belarus there will be no sense! And we need to start by stopping reporting and worrying about the Anglo-Saxons, protecting those who get punched in the face abroad by the Russian flag, Ukrainian teachers who were ready to teach their citizens according to our programs and other citizens for whom the Russian world is not an empty phrase and do not hesitate at the parades on May 9, carry out the standards of the fronts, including the 1st and 2nd Ukrainian Front. Before raising brothers, you need to destroy common enemies! I hope the Anglo-Saxons have already done everything so that all of the above does not remain an empty phrase! Health, peaceful skies and good luck to everyone!
  62. +4
    17 May 2023 12: 44
    Quote: Metal-11
    At the same time, our air defense systems are an order of magnitude better than the most modern foreign ones.

    “An order of magnitude” means at least 10 times. That is, 1000 is an order of magnitude greater than 100. One “zero more.” Do you really think that “our air defense systems are an order of magnitude better”? Can I ask which “our air defense systems” you served on or were involved in their creation and which “their air defense systems” are you familiar with? )))
  63. +2
    17 May 2023 12: 47
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    How do you even know if it was shot down or exploded itself?

    Well it's simple. It exploded itself - do we understand where its “warhead” is and that the explosion will happen from the inside out? And that after such an explosion there will be little left. It was shot down - we understand that then there must be holes in it from the damaging elements from the outside to the inside. And the warhead may not work. Well, a lot of things.
  64. 0
    17 May 2023 12: 48
    Quote: Vladimir80
    another failed plan

    But the most realistic. Otherwise, you will have to hope that the Martians will arrive and correct all the processes.
  65. +1
    17 May 2023 12: 56
    Quote from solar
    In addition, there is such a thing as a barometric altitude sensor

    How does the barometer know about the hill based on its heading? He's just measuring blood pressure. Here you have a height of 20 meters above sea level, but here you have hills 15 meters above sea level with trees on them.
    1. -1
      18 May 2023 15: 34
      independently maintain height flight at least some time, while at the radar there will be glitches

      Allows you to go through a small area where the radar meter will fail. Over a large area, it will not be able to provide failures; such meters have a very narrow radiation pattern.
      In addition, serious rockets use digital terrain maps when programming the flight, that is, the control system will have information about the hill and will simply change the given flight altitude if necessary, and the barometric will provide this.
  66. The comment was deleted.
  67. +1
    17 May 2023 13: 37
    While deliveries of Leopards and Challengers were being procrastinated, a terrible “shadow” crept up
  68. 0
    17 May 2023 18: 03
    [quote=Essex62]There weren’t any Galicians in Soviet and party power before Khrushchev on the outskirts [/quote]
    [quote=Essex62]
    I’ll upset you though... there were no “Eastern Ukrainians” at all, but the Westerners, with all their centuries-old history under the Poles and Germans, were and are now politically, socially organized and with the support of our enemies


    [quote=bayard]And in a very cunning way - through conversion. With a simple bank notice that rubles were issued for the above amount (each account has its own) and therefore this amount (in dollars, euros, Swiss francs) ... IS NULLED. Moreover, such an operation is carried out automatically WITHOUT the participation of bank clerks... There is such a banking program. This is why Western bankers complained that in Russian seized accounts ... “money disappears.” [/quote]
    Did you understand what you wrote? Is the issue of rubles and “frozen” (=temporarily stolen) hard currency the same thing?
    Yes, we need exactly all these dollars, euros, francs, yens. .. to acquire something that we cannot do ourselves, but is very necessary. And printed rubles have nothing to do with these accounts
  69. 0
    18 May 2023 17: 59
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Roman is right in his suspicions about the Crimean bridge, I think we will be convinced very soon.

    We won't be convinced.
    Bender girls need a “wow” effect.
    The Crimean Bridge is like a bride who is not a virgin. A used target will not allow them to fully enjoy their abomination.
    But launching a carrier controlled by telemetry is just their style.
    They have become very inventive lately.
    They will load the Su24 with English missiles and head to Rublyovka or Barvikha.

    They will scream if even one cruise missile reaches its target there.
  70. 0
    19 May 2023 17: 28
    The inertial reporting system is more unpleasant, but the accuracy is already different there.


    Inertial navigation system
    Inertial reference frame
    “Inertial reporting system” - something callous and bureaucratic?
    You need to proofread, author.
  71. 0
    20 May 2023 21: 04
    Storm Shadow: what to prepare for?

    1. The answer to the question depends on the number of these missiles, which no one knows.
    2. It is necessary to prepare either for the evacuation of civilians further to the east, or for the front to shift further to the west.
  72. The comment was deleted.
  73. The comment was deleted.
  74. 0
    29 June 2023 02: 54
    “Everything will be within the framework of the game, which is determined by British and American gentlemen” - you have no chance of winning as long as you play by someone else’s rules!!! Where is the initiative? Why only react to other people's actions?
  75. -1
    7 September 2023 15: 33
    What to prepare for? Yes, for a catastrophe, like in 1917. The situation is the same: a weak-willed ruler, a fattening bourgeoisie, betrayal and treason at the top, unrest at the bottom, and even complicated by the migrant problem.