Control systems of the spacecraft "Buran"

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Control systems of the spacecraft "Buran"
Energia-Buran system on the launch pad. Photo by NPO Molniya


On November 15, 1988, the first and only orbital flight of the Soviet reusable spacecraft Buran took place. With the help of the Energia launch vehicle, the ship went into orbit, made two orbits and returned to Earth, after performing a horizontal landing at the airfield. The flight was fully automatic using unique onboard controls.



Difficult tasks


The development of a promising reusable rocket and space transport system, which resulted in the appearance of Buran, started in 1976. The specially created NPO Molniya, headed by General Designer G.E. Lozino-Lozinsky. Dozens of other scientific and design organizations were also involved in the project. For example, the Design Bureau of Chemical Automation (Voronezh) and the Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (Nizhnyaya Salda) were responsible for the development of the propulsion system.

The program participants had to form the optimal image of the future ship, as well as implement it in the form of a full-fledged project. At the same time, it was necessary to solve a lot of technical problems of various kinds. So, in accordance with the terms of reference, the future Buran should have been made manned, but it was planned to use an autopilot with wide functions. The ship was supposed to have an automatic flight, descent and landing mode.


"Buran" after the first flight. Photo by NPO Molniya

In general, the development of control systems was divided into several main areas. The first involved the development of rudders and related systems for a glider designed to fly in the atmosphere. The second task was the creation of a complex of shunting engines for work in space. Within the framework of the third direction, on-board electronics, computing tools and software for them were developed. These funds were supposed to provide control over the operation of other control systems.

The design of all systems was completed in the first half of the eighties. This made it possible to start building the BTS-002 analogue aircraft for subsequent tests in the atmosphere. In addition, the construction of a full-fledged spacecraft has begun.

Aerodynamic control


"Buran" was built according to the "tailless" scheme with a low-lying delta wing, which had a variable sweep of the leading edge. There was a keel on the tail section of the fuselage. With such an aerodynamic shape, the orbital aircraft could make a gliding flight in the atmosphere, which was required for a regular landing.


The tail of the "Buran". The keel with rudder, control and orientation engine blocks, elevons and balancing shield are clearly visible. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

To control the landing, "Buran" received fairly simple and familiar means. Large-area elevons were placed on the trailing edge of the wing: their synchronous or differential deflection made it possible to control roll and pitch. Between the elevons, on the tail of the fuselage from below, they placed the so-called. balancing shield. With its help, controllability at super- and hypersonic speeds was improved. On the keel was the rudder. It consisted of two symmetrical vertical parts that could diverge to the sides and perform the tasks of an air brake.

All steering surfaces were hydraulically driven. To improve reliability, Buran received three independent hydraulic systems with their own pumps, pipelines, etc. The hydraulic actuators responsible for driving the rudders were remotely controlled by electrical signals from the main control systems.

Control in space


For work, maneuvering and orientation in orbit, Buran received the so-called. integrated propulsion system (APU). It included two sustainer engines with a thrust of 90 kN each in the tail. The ship also received 38 control engines and 8 precision orientation engines. These units were placed in the forward fuselage with nozzles on the top and on the sides, as well as in two characteristic tail shrouds.


Hydraulic drive of one of the aerodynamic rudders. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

The main work in orbit was assigned to the control engines of the 17D15 type. They were located in different parts of the airframe and were directed in different directions. Turning on certain engines for the required time, the crew or the autopilot had to change the orientation of the ship. Also, control engines could duplicate marching engines, but with a loss of performance.

Product 17D15 was a gas-liquid rocket engine powered by hydrocarbon fuel and oxygen. The thrust of one such product reached 4 kN with a specific impulse of up to 290-295 sec. During the flight, the engine could turn on up to 2 thousand times. The total resource is 26 thousand inclusions.

The orientation engine was similar in design to the control engine, but differed in smaller dimensions and other characteristics. Its thrust reached only 200 N with a specific impulse of 265 seconds. At the same time, 5 thousand inclusions were allowed per flight. Due to the lower thrust, a more accurate orientation of the ship in space was provided, sufficient for carrying out certain work.

The control of the ODE was carried out centrally with the help of appropriate instruments. The operation of the installation was controlled by the crew and / or automation, depending on the activities and tasks performed.


Crew simulator cockpit. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

Computing complex


A most complex control system was created for the Buran, which ensures flights in all modes and the solution of auxiliary tasks, the implementation of scientific or practical activities, etc. It included more than 1250 different devices and devices, digital computing tools, as well as numerous cable routes, etc. Various devices from the control system were distributed almost throughout the airframe of the ship.

The basis of the control system was the onboard central computer complex (OCCC), divided into two systems, central and peripheral. Each such system was built on the basis of two BISER-4 computers. Such an architecture of the onboard digital computer ensured high reliability and fault tolerance of the complex as a whole. Product BISER-4 developed by NPTsAP them. Academician Pilyugin was a 32-bit machine with a CPU performance of 37x104 op./sec. Power consumption - 270 W, weight - 34 kg.

BTsVK collected and processed data from various sensors, tools and systems. He was responsible for navigation in space and in the atmosphere, controlled the condition of components and assemblies, exchanged data with ground facilities of the complex, etc. The complex also controlled the operation of aerodynamic rudders and ODU. In the manual flight control mode, the BTsVK was supposed to convert the actions of the crew into commands for the actuators. The automatic mode provided for completely independent work.

For BTsVK, original software was created in the form of an operating system and a set of additional programs. The total amount of software was outstanding for that time - approx. 100 MB.


Schematic diagram of control systems. Graphics Buran.ru

The software complex ensured the operation of the hardware, the interaction of the onboard digital computer with various devices, etc. Among other things, it implemented automatic flight control algorithms in all modes. Of particular interest is the possibility of automatic descent from orbit, flight in the atmosphere and landing at a given airfield. It is curious that only an automatic landing mode was originally provided. Manual added later at the insistence of the customer.

Proven by practice


In 1984, NPO Molniya, with the assistance of other participants in the Buran project, built an analogue aircraft BTS-002, also known as OK-GLI or "0.02". It was a copy of an orbital aircraft, modified for horizontal takeoff and flight in the atmosphere. BTS-02 almost completely repeated the design of the Buran and had all the necessary controls, a computer system, etc. At the same time, it was equipped with turbojet engines.

On November 10, 1985, cosmonauts Igor Volk and Rimantas Stankevičius took the BTS-002 into the air for the first time. In June of the following year, on the fourth flight, semi-automatic planning was first tested - the pilots retained control of the aircraft, but some of the tasks were transferred to automation. At the end of 1985, experiments were carried out with automatic flight to the airfield; manual control was turned on only before touching. Finally, on February 16, 1987, in the tenth flight, the BTS-002 landed on its own for the first time. Until the spring of 1988, more than a dozen similar flights were completed to test systems and algorithms.


Gyroscopic inertial navigation device Sh300 (in the foreground), created for the Buran. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

Finally, on November 15, 1988, the first and only space flight of the orbital Buran took place. After two orbits around the planet, the ship automatically descended and landed at the Baikonur airfield. At the landing stage, the BTsVK received data on weather conditions at the airfield from ground facilities, correctly assessed them and performed an unexpected maneuver. "Buran" independently built an optimal approach and performed a landing against the wind.

Technology of the past


Unfortunately, Buran's first space flight remained the only one. In the future, for a number of reasons, the bulk of which can in no way be called objective, the Energia-Buran program was curtailed, and more work was not resumed. Orbital, atmospheric and other samples of the ship went to eternal parking, and some were lucky to become a museum exhibit.

However, even with this outcome, the bold and promising Buran program showed its potential. Soviet industry has demonstrated its ability to develop such equipment and bring it to at least testing. Using available and newly developed technologies and components, our enterprises have been able to create a space system with unique capabilities.

However, in the future, the experience of the Buran project, incl. in the context of control systems, as a whole remained unclaimed. In the first years or decades after the only launch of Energia-Buran, the industry did not have the opportunity to fully develop this direction. Then new technologies and a more advanced element base appeared with much greater potential.
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  1. +42
    15 May 2023 03: 43
    and why did they suddenly remember the developments of the former, highly developed civilization?
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. +15
        15 May 2023 07: 39
        Probably the saddest thing in this story is that all the developments on the Energia-Buran project have been squandered ... technologies, personnel, experience ... well, most importantly, pride and honor have been lost.
        1. 0
          20 May 2023 10: 32
          It's like with the fuel tank technology for the ISS Nauka module. There was technology and disappeared, as a result, collective farms.
      2. +8
        15 May 2023 08: 29
        Quote: Architect
        This is which banks in front of the TV charged?

        banks were charged during the Yeltsin era
        1. -2
          15 May 2023 10: 12
          Well, of course, under Yeltsin!
          Buran flew in 1988, Kashpirovsky started in 1989, and Chumak in 1990. And Yeltsin at that time was a member of the Council of Nationalities of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR and chairman of the Committee of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on construction and architecture.
          1. +2
            17 May 2023 15: 59
            A beautiful story about the achievements of a slandered but great country. It turns out that Putin was lying when he said that the USSR could only produce galoshes. Yeltsinism-Putinism in 30 years turned the superpower into a backward country, with some elements of the superpower still remaining.
      3. +18
        15 May 2023 08: 37
        Quote: Architect
        This is which banks in front of the TV charged?

        It’s just that people didn’t know that TV could lie so shamelessly. Learned to trust authority. Naive. Nobody was ready for capitalism, well, except for the nomenklatura.
      4. +14
        15 May 2023 09: 10
        This is which banks in front of the TV charged?


        This is a parallel civilization. Which space was not needed, she wanted burgers, chewing gum, fast food. Unfortunately, she won.
      5. +15
        15 May 2023 10: 32
        I remember when in another highly developed civilization a fragment of Wells' fantasy "War of the Worlds" was read on the radio, without warning that it was fiction, the population rushed to evacuate in a panic ...
        In general, the reaction of the bulk, the population will never be a criterion for the development of civilization
        1. +1
          15 May 2023 11: 07
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          The population panicked and rushed to evacuate.

          request duck
          1. Not the population, but only a small part (only 6 million listened, and 130 million lived in the USA at that time)
          how much "rushed"? A couple thousand? And ONLY in the Northeast (there are also time zones in the USA)
          2. Do not evacuate, but arm yourself, barricade the dwelling, prepare for defense and defense. Even some units of the National Guard in guns
          3. Then they believed the radio, there was little TV, there was no Internet, the world was preparing for war, the radio broadcast was of high quality

          The legend (about panic) is generally inflated by newspapers and has been dragged around for 80 years, the reality was somewhat different

          Hand, Richard J. Terror on the Air!: Horror Radio in America, 1931–1952
          1. +9
            15 May 2023 11: 38
            Quote from Digger
            Not the population, but only a small part

            The ratio "heard/believed" matters. And here the whole population, or not all?
            Quote from Digger
            how much "rushed"? A couple thousand?

            And what, all of us without exception were charging water at the TV?
            Quote from Digger
            Then they believed the radio

            And in the USSR they believed TV
            Quote from Digger
            The legend (about panic) is generally inflated by newspapers

            You might think this is the only example...
            In 1957, in the television program Panorama, the British channel BBC BBC presented a story about a "spaghetti bumper crop" grown in Switzerland. The speaker's text was accompanied by supposedly documentary footage of the "harvest". The success of the draw was facilitated by the fact that during these years spaghetti remained an exotic food for the inhabitants of the UK and, as a rule, was sold in the form of canned food. After the broadcast, several hundred viewers turned to the channel with questions about where to buy spaghetti seedlings. This television prank is considered one of the most famous in history.
            1. -3
              15 May 2023 12: 16
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              And here the whole population, or not all?

              recourse

              Population - the totality of people living in Earth (the population of the Earth) or in within a specific territory, continent countries, states, area and so on.
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              And what, all of us without exception were charging water at the TV?

              - I didn’t say anything about Chumak, or about water, or about the TV. Not to me.
              Although I’ll say about these two sorcerers: there were definitely zombies and neurolinguistic programming. for millions, the roof could not just drive off
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              And in the USSR they believed TV

              I didn't believe my parents didn't really, grandparents...maybe.
              how could you believe the TV when it was completely different outside the window.

              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              You might think this is the only example...
              In 1957, in the television program "Panorama", the British channel BBC BBC presented the plot

              well it's not that
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              in another highly developed civilization

              and UK didn’t eat much then
              In Britain, rationing in the United Kingdom has included butter, sugar, and bacon since 1940, and since August 1942, almost everything except bread and vegetables. Cards for gasoline were abolished in 1950, for sugar and sweets in 1953, for meat in July 1954.
              PySy. it was the first of April 1957 and we must pay tribute to the excellent production

              as
              The Google store prank that announced in 2017 that they released a new feature called "Search Bell" that allows users to find things they've lost by connecting to the bell and making a sound.

              Prank of the German car company BMW, which released an announcement that they have developed a new "Smell of the Wind" feature that allows drivers to smell the wind at speeds up to 240 km/h.

              A hoax by Taco Bell, which announced in 1996 that it had acquired Liberty Bell in New York and renamed it Taco Liberty Bell.

              In 1980, the BBC announced that the Big Ben clock, so that it would not lag behind progress, would be converted from mechanical to electronic.
              1. +2
                15 May 2023 12: 34
                Quote from Digger
                The population is the totality of people living on Earth.

                In the evenings, on holidays, all the population of the street went "out of the gate". M. Gorky, In people. All the ship's population went on deck. N. Chukovsky
                As you can see, if we are talking about the entire population, and not part of it, the classics directly point to this.

                Quote from Digger
                I didn’t say anything about Chumak, or about water, or about TV.

                You are not, but the discussion began with them
                Quote from Digger
                In 1980, the BBC announced that the Big Ben clock, so that it would not lag behind progress, would be converted from mechanical to electronic.

                :)))))
                1. -1
                  15 May 2023 12: 55
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  In the evenings, on holidays, the entire population of the street

                  Well, you're not talking about "streets and ships" but already about a whole CIVILIZATION!
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  in another highly developed civilization ... the population in a panic rushed to evacuate ...

                  that's why I stuck
                  1. +2
                    15 May 2023 13: 18
                    Quote from Digger
                    Well, you're not talking about "streets and ships" but already about a whole CIVILIZATION!

                    So in response to
                    Quote: Architect
                    and why did they suddenly remember the developments of the former, highly developed civilization?

                    This is which cans in front of the TV charged?

                    In both cases, obviously, we are not talking about "only all" hi
            2. 0
              16 May 2023 11: 38
              In British history! No need here!)) The most famous hoax - there will be no default by Kiriyenko.
      6. +1
        15 May 2023 17: 33
        Quote: Architect
        This is which banks in front of the TV charged?

        Did you charge? Did you sit in front of Koshmarovsky waving his arms? Me not.
    2. +3
      15 May 2023 10: 56
      Quote: Aerodrome
      and why did they suddenly remember the developments of the former, highly developed civilization?

      1. Kirill Ryabov had to finish up to 5400 articles

      2. Ryabov Kirill has an exacerbation of graphomania
      3. He de ran out of money for living
      4. Insomnia again
  2. +3
    15 May 2023 03: 49
    The people do not need Buran.
    The people need a restaurant.
    With dancing and naked girls...
    . And then shoot.
    1. +6
      15 May 2023 07: 02
      Quote: ivan2022
      The people do not need Buran.
      The people need a restaurant.
      With dancing and naked girls...
      . And then shoot.

      Such an outcome was needed not by the people, but by the officials who had come to power by that time!
    2. +1
      16 May 2023 11: 39
      Well, yes to your people! .. but let the other one work
  3. +11
    15 May 2023 04: 39
    For example, the Design Bureau of Chemical Automation (Voronezh) and the Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (Nizhnyaya Salda) were responsible for the development of the propulsion system.

    KBHA -- mid-flight oxygen-hydrogen engine of the 2nd stage RD-0120 (4 pcs on the central block)
    Design Bureau "Energomash" - oxygen-kerosene engines of the 1st stage RD-170 (4 pieces on the "sides")
    Research Institute in Salda - the engines of the Buran itself.
    Those. the author forgot about Energomash.
  4. +3
    15 May 2023 04: 57
    In the future, for a number of reasons, the bulk of which can in no way be called objective, the Energia-Buran program was curtailed, and more work was not resumed.
    There are so many, oh so many...
  5. +6
    15 May 2023 05: 59
    I remember this flight of Buran ... everything was shown very effectively and cool.
    But then this Gorbachev ruined this entire Buran program ... although many space flights could be carried out on it ... what can I say now ... great opportunities for the development of near-Earth space were mediocrely missed by the leadership of the CPSU.
    1. -17
      15 May 2023 06: 10
      Ineptly spent people's money on do not understand what.
      At a time when there was a commodity and food shortage in the country.
      Now this Buran project would be called a budget cut.
      It would be better if instead of this crazy Buran they did something for people, otherwise they couldn’t even make disposable syringes in the USSR. They infected children with AIDS in Elista, but Buran was launched.
      1. +12
        15 May 2023 06: 30
        Quote: Architect
        Ineptly spent people's money on do not understand what

        Hmmm ... So maybe a hydroelectric power station with a nuclear power plant was built in vain - it was also possible to live by candlelight ...
        Quote: Architect
        At a time when there was a commodity and food shortage in the country.

        It has already been practically proven by the direct participants in those events of the late 80s that the deficit was created artificially - hello to the humpbacked traitor
        1. -15
          15 May 2023 07: 12
          It has already been practically proven by the direct participants in those events of the late 80s that the deficit was created artificially - hello to the humpbacked traitor

          And that there was no shortage before Gorbachev?
          200 km from Moscow, bread was brought to the villages twice a week, and it was all swept away in two hours. And again they were waiting for the delivery. It's good if the car gets to the store, or even stuck in the mud on the outskirts, because there is no asphalt road, but Buran, the Olympics.
          Gas only six years ago, Putin spent, and so they sat with firewood drowned.
          1. +1
            15 May 2023 18: 13
            Well, I don’t know how it was 200 km from Moscow, but in Vorkuta there was enough bread and not only it. And something I don’t remember that in my years of study at the institute (1975-1981 KuAI) that I bothered standing in lines.
            1. 0
              15 May 2023 18: 30
              Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
              Well, I don’t know how it was 200 km from Moscow, but in Vorkuta there was enough bread and not only it. And something I don’t remember that in my years of study at the institute (1975-1981 KuAI) that I bothered standing in lines.

              And the correspondents of the Rybolov magazine in 1988, in an article about fishing on the Istra reservoir, swam up to the fishermen, asked to show what kind of bait they had, and noted that absolutely from all boats, string bags with 3-5 loaves of bread hung into the water. "What is it? I have the right."
          2. 0
            16 May 2023 19: 20
            as I remember, my parents brought me to my grandmother in the village for 600 km .. from 82 to 90
            and there were no problems with the products

            2500 km from Moscow
            80 km from the regional center
            40 km from the regional center
            25 km dirt road
            bread was brought to the store every day, if there were problems, then the whole village knew
            and then the next day they brought more bread to the store - about 1,5 of the usual delivery.
            the bread was running out by the time the store closed.
            there were no sausages in the store and milk with sour cream ... but who in the village would buy milk in the store ??
        2. -9
          15 May 2023 07: 16
          Hmmm ... So maybe a hydroelectric power station with a nuclear power plant was built in vain - it was also possible to live by candlelight ...

          And what about hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants?
          And what about the candles?
          Confuse soft with warm.
          Talking about a specific insane Buran project that cost several billion dollars, it did not give any return.
          A grandiose cut of the times of the USSR, along with land reclamation and many others.
          It was such a thoughtless waste that ruined the USSR. And there is nothing to brag about.
          1. +4
            15 May 2023 08: 18
            Quote: Architect
            And what about hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants?
            And what about the candles?
            confusing soft with warm

            Mom's whistleblower...
          2. -3
            16 May 2023 10: 47
            Here you are throwing such a sickly bomb in the camp of the Stalinists and the Soviet ... dotters
            On the thrust of the undermined fifth points, it is definitely possible to bring one more Energy into orbit))
            But in fact, here the opponents have a holy faith in the great USSR (in some places and periods of time, it must be admitted, it really was great), and faith, as you know, is an irrational thing.
            In response, you get a bunch of splashes of angry saliva. They have arguments, of course. True, those who completely ignore the context of the subject of the dispute.
            Regarding the Buran project. The project, of course, is not one continuous failure and minus for the country. There are, of course, benefits from it, and they are largely non-material, you can’t feel them and you can’t count them.
            But in general, taking into account the period of time when it was implemented, and how it was implemented, it is possible to rate the project "-"
      2. +20
        15 May 2023 06: 48
        Ineptly spent people's money on do not understand what.

        Yeah. But now all the people's money is used very effectively.
        Instead of Buranov, they bought consumer goods from around the world for thirty years ...
      3. +8
        15 May 2023 08: 45
        Quote: Architect
        Ineptly spent people's money on do not understand what.

        Ineptly spent money on the development of Ukraine. The Buran project gave a powerful impetus to almost all industries, but people who dream of a great agricultural power cannot understand this.
        1. +3
          15 May 2023 10: 07
          Ineptly spent money on the development of Ukraine.


          Ineptly spent resources on the development of capitalism in Russia. As a result, they fell in love with Ukraine. And in the USSR it was the most powerful economically developed republic with a corresponding return.
      4. -3
        15 May 2023 10: 00
        Lord! Is it necessary to be such a degenerate with the consciousness of not even a baby? At a time when the Internet is full of information. Many here ask why the USSR collapsed. Yes, because of the same ones who think with their stomachs.
        1. -1
          16 May 2023 18: 32
          Since the seventies, my parents have been standing in lines for food, and for buckwheat (it was not in stores at all) they went to Leningrad for 1000 kilometers, and there they stood in line 3 times for 3 kilograms of buckwheat! What kind of space can we talk about if there were not enough elementary foodstuffs !!!
      5. +3
        15 May 2023 11: 45
        The Americans made their shuttle for POLITICAL reasons. We have fear. The site buran.ru has an apocryphal version of the creation of the shuttle, well, we have Buran. I trust her the most. By the way, for the sake of "Buran" the "Spiral" was slaughtered, although it had already reached flight tests there.
        In short, the question to the public is: what tasks can Buran solve from those that cannot be solved with disposable missiles? Or will this solution be too expensive, and the output will be a design similar to Buran?
        There are no such tasks! The only thing that comes to mind is the return of large loads from orbit, and to a given point and not just by parachute to the steppe. A sort of regular flight Earth-orbit-Earth with a multi-ton payload and specialists back and forth. In short, a space truck at an orbital plant. But there are no factories in orbit even in the presentations yet, so Buran is an expensive toy and another nail in the coffin of the USSR. But the fact that the created technologies are lost is a scam. But here the trouble of the late USSR affected, when everyone and everything was kept secret.
        1. +1
          15 May 2023 12: 41
          By the way, an expensive DISPOSABLE Energia rocket was used to launch Buran!
          1. +3
            15 May 2023 18: 03
            By the way, even for that version of Energy, a parachute system of side blocks was provided. Each side had two containers for two parachutes: brake and main, and there were also landing engines. In the first two flights, recording equipment was installed in the parachute containers to fix the speed and side trajectory. By the way, they were going to open the drag parachute even at supersonic speed. With an empty weight of 59 tons, the return vehicles weighed 13 tons. Quote -Gubanov: "... I was constantly asked what kind of design piling up on the block in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe bow and chaos parts? - these are two built-in containers for placing parachutes, landing aids and a control system. In the first flights they are filled with measuring equipment"
        2. +1
          15 May 2023 17: 14
          Quote: Not the fighter
          The Americans made their shuttle for POLITICAL reasons. We have fear.

          Plus from a great desire so as not worse than that of the adversary. The initial technical specifications of the military provided for the system to be on duty with the crew at the start 24/7, in half an hour ready for launch.
        3. 0
          15 May 2023 17: 46
          Oh my god. The USSR took Star Wars quite seriously and developed its own, acting one. First Energy attempted to launch the Skif combat laser station. Its mass was 80 tons, and KBKhA developed for it a gas-dynamic cue laser RD0600. The flow rate of the gas mixture during the operation of this laser was 100 kg/sec. Buran was intended to replenish the gas mixture and maintain equipment.
          ,
        4. 0
          15 May 2023 22: 05
          By the way, for the sake of "Buran" the "Spiral" was slaughtered, although it had already reached flight tests there.

          It didn't come very well. There was still a lot of work there, so we decided to copy the Shuttle, the system was very expensive without it.
          Lozino-Lozinsky himself wrote about this
          General Designer Glushko felt that by that time there were few materials that would confirm and guarantee success, while the Shuttle flights proved that such a Shuttle configuration worked successfully, and there is less risk when choosing a configuration. Therefore, despite the greater useful volume of the Spiral configuration, it was decided to perform the Buran in a configuration similar to the Shuttle configuration.

          ... Copying, as indicated in the previous answer, was, of course, completely conscious and justified in the process of those design developments that were carried out, and during which many changes were made, as was mentioned above, both to the configuration and to the design. The main political requirement was to ensure that the dimensions of the payload compartment were the same as the Shuttle payload compartment.
        5. 0
          16 May 2023 11: 44
          Fully agree. We had no cargo for Buran at all. My father is also the father of "Proton" .. he confirmed this even in those years ... There is nothing to carry. Science has no
          . Industry and the military are no such things that can be carried by a snowstorm .. let alone Energy in general ...
          1. +1
            16 May 2023 12: 08
            Quote: Terator
            Fully agree. We had no cargo for Buran at all. My father is also the father of "Proton" .. he confirmed this even in those years ... There is nothing to carry. Science has no
            . Industry and the military are no such things that can be carried by a snowstorm .. let alone Energy in general ...

            Tell your father and Proton's father that Energia was supposed to launch the 17F19 combat laser stations into orbit, and Buran was supposed to service them and replenish the oxidizer and fuel for the RD0600 GDL. PS. Proton's father Chelomey did not live to see Energia's flight. Died in 1984. But the one who made considerable efforts and participation in the creation of the Proton, namely Glushko, initiated the creation of Energy.
      6. 0
        16 May 2023 11: 41
        Shortage? What country did you live in then??)) From each according to his ability, to each according to his work...!!! How they worked - so they had!
    2. +5
      15 May 2023 08: 36
      Lyokha, I also remember Buran's flight.
      How proud we all are.
      And then, in 2015, I happened to visit Moscow, at VDNKh, and Buran was standing somewhere on the site, fenced, forgotten by everyone, no one was allowed to see him.
      I blame only the leadership of the country.
      1. +4
        15 May 2023 09: 52
        And then, in 2015, I happened to visit Moscow, at VDNKh, and Buran was standing somewhere on the site, fenced, forgotten by everyone, no one was allowed to see him.

        There's not even Buran! So, a pathetic semblance of a Layout ...
      2. +1
        15 May 2023 16: 53
        And I went inside the Buran, which stood in Gorky Park, before it was transported to VDNKh. Inside the salon of the cinema, they showed a film about the flight of "Buran" into space with the effect of the presence and feeling of weightlessness in moviegoers. Spectators sat in chairs of complex design and at a certain moment the chairs began to lean forward, backward, right, left, rotate from the slightest movement with any part of the body - arm, leg or head, which created the effect of the absence of gravity. Then all of a sudden it all stopped. Here's how in the Il-76 aircraft during the training of astronauts.
        And now they put the "Buran" somewhere on the outskirts of VDNKh, instead of on the central alley near the Cosmos pavilion. negative
        The current government has a strong allergy from everything Soviet, and even more so from such "galoshes".
    3. -1
      15 May 2023 08: 43
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      But then this Gorbachev ruined this entire Buran program

      All the same, the program was stopped for more objective reasons. I don’t remember exactly, like the Soviet electronics industry could produce several tons of electronics per year, and Buran took about 100 tons, he would fly half empty, at a much higher cost of cargo removal. Although it was closed in vain, as the concept of developing technologies and creating a reserve for the future, plus the development of industry and technology, all this would ultimately pay for itself.
      1. +1
        15 May 2023 17: 16
        Quote: qqqq
        All the same, the program was stopped for more objective reasons. I don’t remember exactly, like the Soviet electronics industry could produce several tons of electronics per year, and Buran took about 100 tons, he would fly half empty, at a much higher cost of cargo removal.

        So this is a common problem with reusable ships. For the Yankees, EMNIP, the cost of launching cargo by "shuttles" fell below disposable missiles with 100 launches per year or more.
        1. -1
          15 May 2023 18: 39
          It's more fun there. Initial calculations showed that with "adjusted" coefficients and all the promises of engineers, the profitability threshold is reached by delivering 1200 tons per year to orbit, and in fact 1800-2000 tons at best. The most interesting thing is that in those years, 180-200 tons of cargo were sent into orbit annually, that is, 10 times (!!!) less. In our KGB, not fools worked, they came to the same figures. Panic: the Americans have a "shadow" space program, which is 10 times larger than the official one, and the shuttle is its "stub".
          The promises of the engineers: somewhere on the Internet there is a picture that they promised: the shuttle is in the hangar, next to it there are 4 cabinets, 3 cables and 3 equipment, that's the whole inter-flight inspection. Nearby in the same material there is another photograph: the shuttle on the actual inter-flight inspection. I could hardly see the bow part among the forests.
        2. 0
          16 May 2023 11: 47
          At 36 launches. They never paid back their program. (Accidents nullified all accounting) That's why they turned it off ..
      2. -1
        15 May 2023 18: 27
        Work on Buran was suspended on the direct orders of Gorbachev. His foreign friends were very unhappy. And for Energy, he was going to find an international project. Formally, neither one nor the other was closed. They just stopped funding.
      3. 0
        16 May 2023 12: 17
        Quote: qqqq
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        But then this Gorbachev ruined this entire Buran program

        All the same, the program was stopped for more objective reasons. I don’t remember exactly, like the Soviet electronics industry could produce several tons of electronics per year, and Buran took about 100 tons, he would fly half empty, at a much higher cost of cargo removal. Although it was closed in vain, as the concept of developing technologies and creating a reserve for the future, plus the development of industry and technology, all this would ultimately pay for itself.
        There was only one objective reason - the termination of funding. Due to the termination of funding, the performers themselves publicly announced the closure of the project. Then, even in the press, the noise was raised that for the first time in the USSR, a defense project was closed not from above (government and customers), but from below (performers)
    4. +3
      15 May 2023 11: 28
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      .although many space flights could be carried out on it.
      It didn't make sense, it was expensive. He was supposed to serve a group of expensive attack satellites, but after the decision to non-militarize space, there were no tasks left for him.
  6. +16
    15 May 2023 06: 49
    Buran - technology of the past?
    What did I miss? Show me the technology of the present? laughing
  7. +12
    15 May 2023 07: 22
    Unfortunately yes.
    Previously, they knew how to build and launch into space unique spacecraft that were ahead of their time.
    And now we are launching Yulia Peresild into space ...
  8. -6
    15 May 2023 07: 37
    Buran repeated the concept of the Space Shuttle in many ways. The country did not need such a costly project. It was necessary to follow the path of creating devices of smaller dimensions, which was proposed by Lozino-Lozinsky.
    1. +6
      15 May 2023 08: 31
      Quote: Pavel57
      Buran repeated the concept of the Space Shuttle in many ways.

      He did not repeat it in the main thing - the launch vehicle, which could, and even was used, separately from spacecraft.

      Quote: Pavel57
      It was necessary to follow the path of creating devices of a smaller dimension, which was proposed by Lozino-Lozinsky.
      You don’t know Azov, but you have an expert opinion ...
    2. +2
      15 May 2023 18: 29
      Lozino-Lozinsky is actually the designer of Buran.
  9. +7
    15 May 2023 08: 30
    The USSR launched a whole "Buran" with a drone, here's your "galoshes"
    1. +4
      15 May 2023 09: 31
      The USSR was a country of contrasts. Developed and advanced military space science and technology and crap consumer goods and problems with electronics. .More precisely from the elemental base. And what prevented you from having both if and chewing gum and jeans? Together with rockets
      1. 0
        15 May 2023 12: 46
        And what prevented you from having both if and chewing gum and jeans? Together with rockets

        What prevents respected Petyo and all other historically lagging behind countries, except for historically developed ones, from having both.
        While the USSR was restoring the completely destroyed European part of the country and feeding, in a friendly manner, all of Eastern Europe, the United States could afford to develop in a calm environment, 200 years without war. That's what got in the way.
        Read the list of food that the USSR sent to Czechoslovakia in 1967 and other years, all the countries of people's democracy would be starving without the USSR. I repeat - it was friendly fraternal support.
        Therefore, at the same time, there was not everything, but the USSR produced chewing gum and jeans, I saw everything in stores, but they were considered not fashionable in the country ... I lived in the USSR: I didn’t see hungry, ragamuffins in my eyes, all the youth were dressed fashionably: jeans, sneakers, etc.
        The school cafeterias were full of food, some threw rolls, and in the villages they fed pigs with bread.
        The problem of the USSR is not in this area, read my articles on this topic on VO.
        1. +1
          15 May 2023 18: 31
          Well, thank you. And I already thought that under the Union I lived normally and only I did not starve
      2. +1
        15 May 2023 18: 54
        Quote: Petio
        And what prevented you from having both if and chewing gum and jeans?

        And if they were, only in small sizes. And chewing gum with jeans. By the way, I bought Coca-Cola, which was not in the USSR, once in my life, in 1992, for 25 rubles, a can of 0,33 liters, because of which I was searched from head to toe at the entrance to the Kremlin. Soviet Baikal was better, for my taste. And in our family until 1994 there was completely "shitty" consumer goods in the form of three TVs, three tape recorders, one computer, two domestic cigarette cases ... From imports, several clothes, cassettes, and Montana watches, which broke two years after purchase, unlike the Elektronika watch, which worked for 40 years and was broken by me 5 years ago. By the way, the calendar was there until 2020, it’s a pity they didn’t live, it would be interesting to see what it would show next, 1980?
    2. +1
      15 May 2023 17: 18
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The USSR launched a whole "Buran" with a drone, here's your "galoshes"

      And "Buran" is just not galoshes, but the very defense industry and space that VVP called achievements of the Soviet government, which we are all proud of.
      We had a defense industry - cool, strong, and we are still proud of it. We are grateful to our grandfathers and our fathers for creating such a defense after the Great Patriotic War.

      From the audience: ... And the first satellite.

      Vladimir Putin: Both the first satellite and the first man in space are our common pride, these are the achievements of the Soviet government, of which we are all proud. These are nationwide achievements.

      But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? They weren't there. Let's not lie to each other and to the people. The people know what was and what was not. "
      1. 0
        15 May 2023 17: 25
        Quote: Alexey RA
        But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? They weren't there. Let's not lie to each other and to the people. The people know what was and what was not. "

        I already hesitated to answer that here the GDP, to put it mildly, is telling a lie.
        1. 0
          15 May 2023 17: 52
          I already hesitated to answer that here the GDP, to put it mildly, is telling a lie.

          Likewise. And Alexey more than once.
          1. 0
            16 May 2023 10: 13
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Likewise. And Alexey more than once.

            What do I need? You tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that. wink

            And as for consumer goods ... you know, when in a city of the highest category of supply it is easier for an engineer to sew and knit for his family than to buy in a store - this already says a lot. And when "buy" is massively replaced by "get" - too.
            1. 0
              16 May 2023 12: 56
              What do I need? You tell Vladimir Vladimirovich that.

              And I think you are more balanced in approaches wink
              you know, when in a city of the highest category of supply it is easier for an engineer to sew and knit for his family than to buy in a store - this already says a lot.

              Yes. About the fact that women wanted "like in magazines", and not like in a store. Patterns are attached.
              And when "buy" is massively replaced by "get" - too.

              Yes. Just not about the fact that there is no consumer goods (since then there would be nothing to get), but about the fact that there are people who understand the benefits for themselves from "difsit", I'm sure that you watched Raikin's monologue, you understand what it is about. And then some kind of paradoxical situation - there is nothing. But there are no hungry, naked, shoeless, in empty apartments either.
              PS And if we talk about the words of Putin...then everything is known in comparison. There would be no questions for him if the situation with the export of consumer goods (in his interpretation "galoshes for Africans") in Russia were better than in the USSR. And so, nothing more than an attempt to cover up an uncomfortable question that has remained forever in the history of a particular person.
  10. 0
    15 May 2023 09: 51
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Quote: Architect
    This is which banks in front of the TV charged?

    banks were charged during the Yeltsin era

    Are you lazy to google or are you pushing misinformation with a specialist ?, banks were loaded even under the USSR, the last couple of years of its existence saw the heyday of obscurantism.
  11. 0
    15 May 2023 09: 55
    Quote: Roman Bubnov
    Unfortunately yes.
    Previously, they knew how to build and launch into space unique spacecraft that were ahead of their time.
    And now we are launching Yulia Peresild into space ...

    It is not clear why everyone clung to Peresild, the Americans also launched civilians, though one way was the unsuccessful launch of the Challenger. If instead of Peresild a pro astronaut would fly, what would change?
  12. -1
    15 May 2023 10: 00
    Quote: Architect
    Ineptly spent people's money on do not understand what.
    At a time when there was a commodity and food shortage in the country.
    Now this Buran project would be called a budget cut.
    It would be better if instead of this crazy Buran they did something for people, otherwise they couldn’t even make disposable syringes in the USSR. They infected children with AIDS in Elista, but Buran was launched.

    They were infected not because of the lack of disposables, but because of negligence and disposables in the late USSR were already there but not enough, this of course does not negate the fact that instead of investing in consumer goods, 60000 tanks were riveted.
    1. 0
      15 May 2023 11: 00
      I was infected with jaundice in Baku at that time.
  13. +6
    15 May 2023 10: 09
    Quote: Architect
    It has already been practically proven by the direct participants in those events of the late 80s that the deficit was created artificially - hello to the humpbacked traitor

    And that there was no shortage before Gorbachev?
    200 km from Moscow, bread was brought to the villages twice a week, and it was all swept away in two hours. And again they were waiting for the delivery. It's good if the car gets to the store, or even stuck in the mud on the outskirts, because there is no asphalt road, but Buran, the Olympics.
    Gas only six years ago, Putin spent, and so they sat with firewood drowned.

    Did Putin personally lead the gas? Was he sitting behind the levers of the excavator or did he weld pipes?
  14. +1
    15 May 2023 10: 59
    It was the peak of the development of the past, highly developed civilization ...... They could not develop further, they destroyed it and all investments in the race went to waste. We invested a lot in that time....
  15. +1
    15 May 2023 12: 29
    1. Buran, conceptually as a reusable ship, repeated the Space Shuttle. The difference is in the standalone carrier, which was also not needed, since there was no payload for it.
    2. Lozino-Lozinsky saw the benefit of the small air-launched shuttles he was trying to create as part of Buran's funding.
    3. Both the States and China are developing small classes of shuttles. Gigantomania did not justify.
    1. 0
      15 May 2023 18: 41
      Have you forgotten anything? There were two launches of Energy. On the first flight, there was an attempt to launch the 80-ton Skif station. In principle, with the help of Energy, it was possible to launch any load, for example, a ship to the Moon or the same TMK (Heavy Interplanetary Ship) The USSR received a universal super-heavy carrier that could be upgraded to 200 tons. When I saw the launch of Energia, I thought that the era of manned exploration of the solar system was beginning. But Gorbachev turned out to be completely stupid and saw nothing but his Raiska. And don’t remind me who developed Buran with us?
    2. 0
      15 May 2023 22: 00
      1. Buran, conceptually as a reusable ship, repeated the Space Shuttle.

      Not really. The shuttles repeated the original version of the OS-120. But the system was finally built in a different concept.
      Despite the similarity of appearance, the difference was fundamental. The shuttles were independent spacecraft that took off from the surface of the Earth into space using their own engines (with additional solid-fuel boosters for launch). All elements of the Shuttle were reusable.
      Buran, on the other hand, was the load of the Energia launch vehicle, which launched it into space (also with the help of boosters to the launch vehicle, but not solid-fuel ones, but with liquid-propellant rocket engines). That is, it was an orbital ship with the possibility of subsequent landing, which was a reusable part of the system. Everything else - Energy, boosters - were disposable.
  16. -1
    15 May 2023 18: 35
    What country have we lost... We could do everything, but now we can't even force ourselves to respect those who don't owe everything.
  17. -2
    15 May 2023 21: 43
    But after all, it was the world's first full-fledged AI (artificial intelligence) that made decisions within the framework of the task!
  18. +1
    15 May 2023 23: 58
    Quote from solar
    Everything else - Energy, boosters - were disposable.
    In fact, the side boosters were salvageable, and the RD-170 engines were certified for reusable use. . Just at the first two launches, measuring equipment was delivered to the parachute containers. The shuttle could only "bring" itself and was forced to drag three engines into orbit, which were dead weight there. And we had a separate super-heavy launch vehicle and a separate payload - Buran. Or they could launch something else with the help of Energy.
    1. -1
      16 May 2023 09: 28
      Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
      Or they could launch something else with the help of Energy.

      And they launched, moreover, before Buran: the Polus model.
      1. +1
        16 May 2023 12: 41
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
        Or they could launch something else with the help of Energy.

        And they launched, moreover, before Buran: the Polus model.
        Not just a Pole, but a dynamic weight and size model of the 17F19 product weighing 80 tons and 37 meters long, with a diameter of 4 meters.
        1. 0
          17 May 2023 03: 14
          Quote: Vyacheslav Ermolaev
          Not just a Pole, but a dynamic weight and size model of the 17F19 product weighing 80 tons and 37 meters long, with a diameter of 4 meters.

          To clarify so to clarify, the MMG did not enter the calculated orbit, although not through the fault of Energia.
  19. +3
    16 May 2023 19: 07
    Quote: Nikolay293
    Since the seventies, my parents have been standing in lines for food, and for buckwheat (it was not in stores at all) they went to Leningrad for 1000 kilometers, and there they stood in line 3 times for 3 kilograms of buckwheat! What kind of space can we talk about if there were not enough elementary foodstuffs !!!
    lying is also an art. And it is not given to you. For the sake of a red word, I will not regret my father? Did I understand correctly that your parents trudged to Leningrad for buckwheat for at least a day? And I rode to Leningrad to see the city or flew from Moscow to Syktyvkar for the weekend to visit good friends. True, I did not like buckwheat from kindergarten. Maybe this is the problem?
  20. 0
    17 May 2023 08: 16
    The Soviet system was able to mobilize engineering minds for the implementation of the Buran project, but did not want to mobilize society for self-preservation! That is, external control worked, as in the case of Soviet computer technology!
  21. 0
    30 June 2023 21: 07
    I remember this flight. We watched, everyone watched. Clearly started, Buran sat down beautifully. Some doubted that there was an automatic mode. I thought the astronauts hid somewhere. The country was dying with its head held high. Betrayed and sold everything that the people believed in
  22. 0
    14 July 2023 07: 27
    Good,, galoshes,,, yes? And now they can do something similar, without imported components? I watched a TV report at that time: there was some emotional excitement and at the same time pride for the country, for the creators.
  23. 0
    3 November 2023 12: 48
    "Spacecraft control systems..."
    Spacecraft control systems!