"Motovilikha Plants": defense in anticipation of a counteroffensive

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"Motovilikha Plants": defense in anticipation of a counteroffensive

In personal (and non-personal) communication, a certain group of readers usually complain that we do not publish reports on the results of our activities. They, the results, are far from always available, it is worth noting that sometimes articles are even deleted for reasons beyond our control, but when there are results, this is also far from a reason to write materials. It just doesn't fit. However, sometimes it happens that there is a point in such articles, and we talk about what happened after. This case is one of those.

Released in October last year "Motovilikha Plants": save or still finish off?, where we talked about uniform lawlessness in relation to the oldest artillery enterprise in Russia.




The situation today has changed, and changed for the better. Not so much that you could relax, but still.

But I would like to start from something else. I would like to start with a question addressed to RT-Capital, that is, the "daughter" of Rostec, which is engaged in the liquidation and sale of property: dear, are you sure that everything is being done correctly? We have some doubts that what is happening in general can be interpreted in any other way than a conspiracy is not clear in whose favor. And that the FSB should deal with the situation.

a little bit stories, literally just a little, just to show the situation.

August 2017. An observation procedure has been opened in relation to PJSC MZ (“Motovilikhinskiye Zavody”), according to the statement of the All-Russian Research Institute “Signal”. This enterprise is the largest research organization in Russia for the development and manufacture of adjustable drives and power supply systems. Located in the city of Kovrov, Vladimir region. Naturally, it is part of Rostec.

January 2018. Rostec State Corporation, represented by RT-Capital, being a creditor of PJSC MZ from NPO Splav and JSC Rosoboronexport, acquires a debt from Rossiya Bank. The amount of the transaction is not announced, according to sources in Perm - 7,5 billion rubles.

March 2018. RT-Capital puts to a vote the issue of introducing bankruptcy proceedings at PJSC MZ, bypassing the stage of external management, which is logical in this case, and approves it in court.

October 2022. The auction of the property of the operating strategic enterprise, first class access is announced. Moreover, with the publication of secret information, which is a state secret, about a complete list of the enterprise's property in open sources.

We are talking about the property of Special Design Bureau LLC (SKB LLC), which is a structural subdivision of PJSC MZ and is engaged in the implementation of the State Defense Order. Wildness? Yes. But here it turns out that the law is harsh, but it is the law: you want to sell a plant that produces weapon? No problem. Just make it human!

Here in RT-Capital they issued it.

Data of the auction for the sale of property of a bankrupt enterprise

At the very end of the electronic page there are links to several documents, including a list of realizable property. And here the question arises: is it normal that the data on the executor of the State Defense Order (GOZ), whose share is sold as part of the lot of PJSC MZ, along with the property of another LLC, Motovilikha - Civil Engineering (MGM LLC), which is engaged in procurement for "SKB", announced in the open?

The situation, frankly, is on the verge of absurdity. Get into a business? Without a dozen approvals, permits and other documents - it is unrealistic. A military plant that fulfills a defense order. Need to understand!

Why, then, all this secrecy, if a competent engineer, who is not at all ours, can simply, for example, determine the accuracy of manufacturing certain components based on machine models. For example, turntables MLRS. And already on this basis, draw conclusions about the speed and accuracy of aiming systems. And by marking the cutters for lathes, one can draw conclusions about which grades of steel are used. And that's it, and you don't need any security guards. Everything is out in the open. Look, enemy, use ...

And how to call it? You can pick up a lot of epithets, however, each of the readers will be able to do it himself.

As it seems to a single group of comrades, the actions of the arbitration manager, members of the creditors' committee, so striving to "return theirs", fall under a number of articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, including Art. 283.

It makes sense to seriously think and see if there are similar violations of the law in other cases of sales of the property of military factories throughout the country. Surely there is.

What about "Motovilikha"


The situation is very strange from the beginning. Rostec, represented by RT-Capital, performs actions that are difficult to understand. In general, it would be nice if, after the release of the material from Rostec, an explanation / explanation comes in terms of what and where. In general, corporate representatives often do such things, and we, as you remember, published them. We will publish now, because the situation is worth it.

Regarding the numbers, we will talk a little lower, but as for the facts, then there is something to think about.

LLC "SKS" operates and fulfills the State Defense Order. And I note that only this organization has a license for the production of MLRS. But it is being sold, since it is generally unrealistic to separate LLC SKS and LLC MGM from PJSC MZ. All the signs of a holding are present there, the legal entities are located on the same area, have one legal address, and what's there, PJSC MZ and MGM LLC have the same director - Dyadkin Sergey Vyacheslavovich.

That is, in fact (with the exception of some very subtleties) LLC SKS and LLC MGM are parts of PJSC MZ.


And here the question arises: it turns out that Rostec, together with the bankrupt PJSC MZ, is selling into private hands an enterprise that produces military equipment under the State Defense Order?

Understanding goes underground, the mind tries to realize it, but ... It seems to me, or are they hitting the bottom with a sledgehammer? And is it bursting at the seams? And we come to the edge beyond which madness begins?

I'll try to explain why I thought so.

With regards to PJSC MZ, there are unconfirmed rumors that the only real buyer of the plant is a certain Remdizel LLC. Daughter of KamAZ. That is, the enterprise will legally go to Tatarstan.

Legally, but not actually. But the legal part is sometimes more than enough to do great things.

Let me illustrate the situation with a historical example.

In my Voronezh there was such a plant as EVP - electrovacuum devices. Then it was renamed to VELT - "Voronezh cathode ray tube". He made color kinescopes with a diagonal of 51 cm, and he did them well. "Record VTS-311" remember? Here, he is ours.

And the plant was so large that kinescopes, in addition to their "Electrosignal", were supplied to the Baku, Moscow, Novgorod and Alexander TV factories. VELT tubes were in addition to "Records" in "Sadko", "Ruby", "Aelites", "Dawns". In general, we can assume that all Soviet TVs with a 51 cm tube are on the conscience of VELT. And there were normal TVs, right? The tubes were licensed, American, from RCA. Today she was torn apart by General Electric and Sony, but then she was very popular as a manufacturer.

And in 1995, VELT bought the Dutch Philips. For quite sane money, promising more than a lot. In 1998, a scandal broke out, because all Philips did was close the plant for reconstruction and dismantle some of the equipment. And this is where the history of the Voronezh kinescopes ended, and with them the Soviet televisions ended. In 2001, Philips sold the plant back to the administration of Voronezh for 1 euro.

But since then, the history of Russian televisions has ended, as well as the history of factories that worked on kinescopes from Voronezh.

That is, do you understand what the prospect suggests? Yes, of course, you can hear at least a hundred assurances from representatives of Rostec that no, no, no, the new owner will be obliged to produce MLRS, this will be indicated / spelled out in the documents ...


Well, yes. “Blessed are the believers, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven,” as one ancient but relevant book says.

In our country, the owner is the one who does what the business requires of him. It will be profitable to continue - Remdizel will assemble MLRS. It won’t – and our Ministry of Defense is doing a lot to make it difficult to fulfill the State Defense Order – it will start collecting something else.

This is HIS, the owner, the plant. And the owner, and only he, decides how the plant will work, what wages will be paid, what the enterprise will produce and at what price.

In general, of course, the prospect is fire! To give into private hands a unique enterprise that produces artillery systems - well, yes, and then we will be surprised that the MLRS instead of, say, a million rubles, will cost two. And nothing, it's a market! If you don't like it - well, go ahead and bargain! Take a ride to Tula, for example... Or to Iran.

But this is not the worst, in my opinion. When you need MLRS - and two million, and three can be paid. But when they are not...

And everything is simple. Polite businessmen can approach the owner and calmly offer ... no, not money. Immunity and forgiveness for all sins plus a passport in a calm country like the USA. And no, you don’t have to sell and betray so openly, it’s enough just to stop the plant for reconstruction.

Or simply termination of the lease agreement with SKB LLC. Whose last grinding machine was rented from PJSC "MZ".


The plant is stopped because without the necessary repairs it is simply impossible to carry out the state defense order, well, it’s just that the enterprise is in such a state that either repairs or the owner can’t vouch for anything. And no one in our country can do anything. Because we have such laws. Such a market.

Why Remdiesel? Yes, everything is simple. Because representatives of this particular enterprise came to Motovilikha in January 2023. To inspect equipment and inspect workshops. Agree, worthy proof.

So the owners of the Tatarstan enterprise from Naberezhnye Chelny hardly came just to hang out, to see the plant and show themselves off. Not that flight of a bird.

Now a little about the numbers.

If you look at the figures of the announced tenders, then the final minimum amount is simply miserable - only some 830 million. And this despite the fact that the total debt of PJSC "MZ" is 10,5 billion rubles.

Let's look at it through the lens of the tender documents.

MZ owes 7,5 billion rubles to RT-Capital. Tula NPO "Splav" - 2 billion rubles. Rosoboronexport - 1 billion rubles. Here is such a controlling stake of creditors, there are more, but they are really smaller than this trio, in which RT-Capital can block ANY decision of the Board of Creditors. There is also such a form of observation.

So what do we get? And two options, both so-so.

Option one: the leadership of Rostec, the company's specialists turned out to be worthless leaders. It turns out that they fully signed their own impotence in terms of managing the plant, which is alive and works for the good of the country. And they see no other way out, how to sell it on the cheap in order to return at least something.

Is everything so sad in the state corporation Rostec? Are there entirely children of officials and managers recruited from ads?

Here even I doubt it. It shouldn't be like that. And in other areas, other Rostec enterprises are far from being as sad as Motovilikha. They work, in some places even in three shifts. It is not easy in our time, the work of the plant in three shifts, it is insanely difficult for many reasons.

So here it’s even inconvenient to take and blame the entire Rostec. Everything is clear with RT-Capital, these are the liquidators. They don't have any questions at all.

Option two: all this is started for a reason and RT-Capital really acts in the interests of third parties. The main "suspect" is "Remdizel", but it is possible that there are still those who wish.

The fall of a defense plant into private hands is fraught with many negative aspects. Where the MZ machines will go, where the SKB machines will go, it will be practically impossible to check this, and we don’t have bodies capable of doing this. A competently drawn up balance sheet - yes, the cruiser "Peter the Great" can be sunk in it, and no one will find where it drowned.

The sale by a state corporation of an enterprise operating under the State Defense Order into private hands, and even with a violation of secrecy, is, excuse me, too much even for our country. And the relevant authorities are simply obliged to become interested in this case, because clearly Rostec's actions require some correction.

I really would not want the defense plant to go into private hands, and then somewhere to new owners, say, in Cyprus. Or offshore. And the new owners would have stopped it "for reconstruction" according to a well-known scenario. Where, excuse me, will we take the MLRS? Again in Iran and North Korea?

And of course, the disclosure of state secrets.

It just seems to me that Rostec has played some games with the liquidation and sale of "unnecessary" property. And due to their certain incompetence, they allowed themselves too much. It is clear that anyone who was interested - he already copied and studied all the materials on Motovilikha.

I did a little experiment. He gave the list to his neighbor, a milling turner from KBHA, to look at. He looked, chuckled, and said that if he had been given more information on the cutters that work on these machines, he could easily estimate the life of the barrels. Well, he just sharpens nozzles for rocket engines, and the essence of the work at the RSZA barrel is about the same.

And who really needed it, most likely, the necessary information has already been ordered and received for their use.

Regarding the economic feasibility of the sale of PJSC "MZ". It is zero, and even negative. Similar enterprises in the industry, of which there are not many, are subsidized or at a profitability of no more than 5-10 percent, the most striking example is Uralvagonzavod, Perm Powder, state-owned enterprises that are owned by the state, which has the ability to support manufacturers during a period of losses .

But: the task of these enterprises is not to make a profit, but to ensure the security of the state with their products.

As a result of bankruptcy and the sale of property, a new, more efficient owner should appear (by selling the property, Rostec recognizes that the corporation is an inefficient owner). But this goal, in view of objective reasons, cannot be achieved; rather, on the contrary, we will soon see a new sales procedure in repetition.

The way out of the procedure is the only one, arising from the analysis, logic, interests of the state and the defensive doctrine of the Russian Federation: an amicable agreement between MZ PJSC and creditors, replacing debt with shares of MZ PJSC, and not selling, but vice versa, increase in the share of Rostec to the maximum possible level and support from the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

By the way, in the fall of 2022, visiting Motovilikha, Medvedev and Manturov talked about allocating 14 billion rubles for the development of the enterprise. This money would be more than enough to solve all, absolutely all the problems of Motovilikha. Unless, of course, these were the promises of senior government officials, and not empty chatter for a telegram channel.
So far, the sale of Motovilikha has been suspended. But for now. On May 15, another trial will take place, in which a group of opponents of the sale of enterprises in a bunch will try to prove their case and defend the interests of Motovilikha.

Let's hope that the court will show not only attentiveness and adherence to the letter of the law, but also patriotism and understanding of the spirit of the law, which guards the interests of Russia.
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  1. +67
    9 May 2023 04: 49
    The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry. The same as was carried out against Russian civil aviation. What debts, what shareholders can be in strategic industries? They want to strike both at production and at brains (design bureaus). What awaits "Motovilikha" in case of bankruptcy and sale? Scrapping of all equipment and sale of the plant area for shopping centers and residential complexes. (Judging by the photo, the place is very good near the river, beautiful)
    As soon as this situation arose, the competent authorities immediately had to stop all this, where there are always secrets of the FSB (formerly the KGB).
    Here is the logistics of capitalism, to sell a mother, a sister to a brothel, but to earn loot, and at least the grass does not grow there. soldier
    1. +57
      9 May 2023 04: 55
      Quote: V.
      The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry.

      all privatization is sabotage. the goal is to destroy the country.
      1. -14
        9 May 2023 05: 21
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Quote: V.
        The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry.

        all privatization is sabotage. the goal is to destroy the country.

        The Russian people supported privatization 30 years ago. The teams voted FOR!

        Thank the Lord, I remember it all now .. And I won’t let anyone lie. No one secretly "thought out" anything. Everything happened in meetings.

        If it is said, tomorrow everyone will go to the square and hang themselves, there will be only one question: "Bring the rope?"

        And no one needs to "think" anything. In Russia, this is not accepted at all. You just need to order.
        1. +4
          9 May 2023 07: 24
          What are you talking about? But how is it, where is the insidious enemy, almost eternal?)
          Does everything really rest on a vulgar desire to grab, here and now, and there is no Great Evil?)
          No, you are deliberately slandering our history, not otherwise. wink Everyone knows that an Englishwoman, naturally, spoils, patamushta knows nothing else, agents of the State Department are plentiful, powerful and strong, reptilians, definitely, because of every bush ... can't be in vain laughing
          And here you are with vulgar greed and a habit of not thinking about the shirnarmasses and the successes of the most crafty of these masses ..... "How petty it is, Khobotov .."
        2. +12
          9 May 2023 08: 05
          Thank the Lord, I remember it all now .. And I won’t let anyone lie
          How about brainwashing. From the first day the marked one came to power, the country was told that the communists were to blame for everything, that we were living poorly, that it would be good in market socialism.
          By the way agitation and propaganda is a great thing. Already now they call a criminal, already a nobleman. That only his super-duper stormtroopers are fighting and the whole army is allegedly playing the fool ..
          Years later, anyone... can say she kept her virginity in that brothel.
          I also remember everything, And you don’t need to lie, just put the accents differently, keep silent about something, and here is a freshly painted new story.
          1. +1
            11 May 2023 07: 10
            Thanks for the good article and take care. It is dangerous to publish articles denouncing the Chemezov gang, they are above the Law.
            But in general, all this is not at all surprising, after traitors and embezzlers have been leading our country for about forty years. And while our current leader leads our country, there will be no investigation against the enemies of the people, simply because he is the leader of their gang.
          2. 0
            11 May 2023 16: 46
            YOU, of course, excuse me, but where does the brainwashing come from. The people themselves were ready and wanted a different life. chewing gum. jeans . video thrillers and so on. and this was not only under the hunchback, but much earlier. Our slogan if you want to live, know how to spin. steal and steal and drag everything from their enterprises who could. and a simple plumber took money for his work, for which he was already paid. and so everywhere. and they sold and stole fuel, and unas men for 300 km on Kamaz trucks on state-owned gasoline drove for vodka to another city. All this was and there was no one to brainwash. all this, oh how they wanted, melodies and rhythms of foreign pop music. But they got what they wanted. they themselves sold their enterprises.
        3. +10
          9 May 2023 09: 05
          The Russian people supported privatization 30 years ago. The teams voted FOR!

          Just like he supported the collapse of the USSR ... But the question was "are you in favor of preventing privatization?"
          1. -1
            12 May 2023 15: 37
            Here it is also necessary to take into account that, for example, in Kazakhstan they changed the essence of the question, formulating it as follows: "Do you consider it necessary to preserve the USSR as a Union of equal sovereign states." But the Kazakh "For" in Moscow was considered as the "For" of the USSR. At the request of the Kazakh CEC. Apparently, when organizing a referendum, the authorities of the Kazakh SSR believed that if the referendum fails, they will declare that Kazakhstan voted for independence. And if the referendum wins, they will say that Kazakhstan also voted "for" the preservation of the USSR.

            In Ukraine, a second question was additionally included in the bulletin: “Do you agree that Ukraine should be part of the Union of Soviet Sovereign States on the basis of the Declaration on the State Sovereignty of Ukraine? "Yes or no""
            More than 70% of the inhabitants of the Ukrainian SSR answered "Yes" to both questions. And how was it to be understood? They were "for" the USSR or "for the USSR, but on the basis of their sovereignty" ? Or 50/50?

            The second Ukrainian referendum on December 1, 1991 provides the answer.
            Almost 1 percent of the inhabitants of the Ukrainian SSR who had the right to vote took part in the referendum on December 1991, 85. More than 90 percent of them supported the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine. Even the nationalists were surprised. The record support for independence was all the more surprising because not only the west of Ukraine voted “for” (where the results reached 98%, as, for example, in the Ivano-Frankivsk region), but also the east. In the Donetsk region, 83,9% of those who voted positively, in the Luhansk region - 83,86%, in the Kharkiv region - 86,33%, in the Odessa region - 85,38%. Only Crimea, against this background, did not differ in unanimity - the idea of ​​​​independence received "only" 54,19% of the votes.

            It turns out that those Ukrainians who answered "Yes" to both questions in March 1991 were somehow not particularly in favor of preserving the USSR.

            And if the votes of Kazakhstan and Ukraine are excluded from the results of the referendum on March 17, 1991, then not only "more than 75% of the Soviet people" are not recruited, not even half of the Soviet people are recruited.

            Let's see how the RSFSR voted.
            In the RSFSR, 105 people were included in the voting lists; 643 364 79 (701%) took part in the voting. Of these, 169 75,44 56 (860% of those who participated, 783% of voters) answered "Yes", 71,34 53,82 21 (030%) answered "No". 753 26,39 1 ballots were declared invalid.
            Hmmm. 71,34%.
            Let's look at the expense of whom even such a result was achieved. In Moscow, Leningrad, the Volgograd Region and the Primorsky Territory, the voting results were 50/50.
            And in the Sverdlovsk region even less than 50% of the population voted "For".
            But
            Bashkir ASSR 85,9 "For"
            Buryat ASSR - 83,5
            Dagestan ASSR - 82,6
            Kabardino-Balkarian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (KBSSR) - 87,9
            Kalmyk ASSR (Kalmyk SSR) - 87,8
            Karelian ASSR - 76,0
            Komi ASSR (Komi SSR) - 76,0
            Mari ASSR (Mari SSR) - 79,6
            Mordovian ASSR (Mordovian SSR) - 80,3
            North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (SOSSR) - 90,2
            Tatar ASSR (Tatar SSR) - 87,5
            Tuva ASSR (SR Tyva) - 91,4
            Udmurt ASSR - 76,0
            Chechen-Ingush ASSR - 75,9
            Chuvash ASSR (Chuvash SSR) - 82,4
            (Yakutsk-Sakha SSR) - 76,7

            That's due to whom the referendum pulled the RSFSR. But the question immediately arises as to how real these percentages were. Especially considering the surge of nationalism that has already taken place in the same Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Kalmykia, Dagestan
            1. 0
              16 May 2023 16: 00
              And if the votes of Kazakhstan and Ukraine are excluded from the results of the referendum on March 17, 1991, then not only "more than 75% of the Soviet people" are not recruited, not even half of the Soviet people are recruited. How many people lived in Kazakhstan and Ukraine at that time?
            2. 0
              16 May 2023 16: 02
              I'll answer myself. Less than in the RSFSR. So that.
        4. -10
          9 May 2023 11: 48
          Firstly, the collectives of enterprises in the 90s are not only not the Russian people, but not even the Soviet people.
        5. +25
          9 May 2023 12: 23
          Quote: ivan2022
          The Russian people supported privatization 30 years ago. The teams voted FOR!

          Thank the Lord, I remember it all now .. And I won’t let anyone lie.


          And you're lying. Consciously or unconsciously. At the meetings, it was about privatization in favor of the working collective. Fooled the people that everyone will become the owner. The people pecked at this cranberry and voted. Well, then it's a matter of technology. As planned, the crooks, then bish true privatizers, by hook or by crook bought up all the shares from the workers of the enterprise and became sole proprietors. The collectives did not vote for such privatization.
          1. +3
            10 May 2023 15: 50
            The country lived 70 years in other conditions, so no one then had any idea what a market economy and privatization were. Everyone thought that everything would work like in the USSR, only the money would remain at the enterprises, and not with the state
        6. +4
          11 May 2023 04: 45
          The Russian people supported privatization 30 years ago. The teams voted FOR!

          In general, the initial privatization project involved the transfer of the plant and factories to the ownership of the collective, through corporatization, ownership of shares. This is how propaganda about privatization was broadcast. Therefore, the people were not against it, but the people were deceived and the property was essentially stolen by a bunch of crooks.
          1. 0
            11 May 2023 16: 50
            Yes, it is not necessary to expose the people as fluffy sheep who were deceived. Many understood everything and wanted a different life. from pictures of Western magazines from films. and who opened all sorts of tire shops and car services and so on. Everyone is to blame.
        7. -3
          11 May 2023 13: 08
          Oh, how your comment hurts the eyes of the local leavened patriots. As if you were lying about something. They sold the country for sausage, and now they are minus and they raise their hands to the sky.
      2. +20
        9 May 2023 07: 51
        It's right. Question: when will all this ugliness stop?

        The whole situation reminds me very much of the First World War (((What happened next, I hope it’s not necessary to remind.

        The article is very specific. Concrete actions of authorities and special services are needed.
        1. +12
          9 May 2023 08: 32
          Government actions? This will not happen. The author of the article did not paint everything. A small touch to the picture: the previous governor, with the stubbornness of a maniac, tried to destroy the section of the railway through which Motovilikha was supplied. There were protests, citizens, the conclusion of RosHydro that if this project is implemented, then a threat is created to the integrity of the dam of the Kama hydroelectric power station - the governor did not care about anything. The road was closed, temporarily, but closed. And where is this governor now? Please love and favor: Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Maxim Reshetnikov! So what actions of the authorities are we talking about?
      3. +3
        10 May 2023 23: 36
        so there is no official war, otherwise during the war with saboteurs it is necessary according to the laws of wartime ... but it’s all the same, sooner or later, as in a joke, the face "will not be beaten according to the passport"
    2. +29
      9 May 2023 06: 26
      Quote: V.
      Here is the logistics of capitalism, sell your mother, your sister to a brothel but earn loot, and at least the grass does not grow there

      And what is characteristic, the unprofitability of the enterprise in a strange way may not affect the well-being of its management in any way. As a rule, it is by no means poor people who lead to bankruptcy!

      It turns out that you can kill an enterprise and not only not suffer, but also get rich. What is actually happening with us.
      This is such a legalized way of market earnings - pumping money from the unfinished Soviet legacy into your own pocket.
      1. +7
        9 May 2023 13: 36
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: V.
        Here is the logistics of capitalism, sell your mother, your sister to a brothel but earn loot, and at least the grass does not grow there

        And what is characteristic, the unprofitability of the enterprise in a strange way may not affect the well-being of its management in any way. As a rule, it is by no means poor people who lead to bankruptcy!

        It turns out that you can kill an enterprise and not only not suffer, but also get rich. What is actually happening with us.
        This is such a legalized way of market earnings - pumping money from the unfinished Soviet legacy into your own pocket.
        And this is generally a standard picture and none of the owners and other top managers lay hands on themselves, but on the contrary - they continue to live very well!
      2. +5
        9 May 2023 18: 35
        This is a classic - to grab a plant and successfully "cut" it between interested parties with the withdrawal of assets abroad.
    3. 0
      9 May 2023 11: 18
      Quote: V.
      The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry.

      It's just that the Perm Territory was not lucky with the governors. Who was there? Trutnev and other representatives of the "fifth column in power." They believed that having oil and salt, Perm would live without industry. So they filmed the series about "Real Boys". Whereas in the neighboring region, Governor Rossel organized an exhibition of weapons, fought with those who wanted to privatize UVZ, and organized the production of civilian products at military-industrial complex enterprises in order to save them.
      I look at the current photos from the Motovilikha plants ... it's useless to restore something there. Cannons fired on this equipment will not fire normally. Just compare with the video from the 9th artillery factory.

      https://detonator666.livejournal.com/2731708.html
      For repairs, maybe. So "Remdiesel" is a normal idea
      1. +4
        9 May 2023 11: 56
        Hmm, where does the nine get blanks for their guns? Does it have its own metallurgical production?
        1. +1
          9 May 2023 12: 20
          Quote: Oleg Ogorod
          Does it have its own metallurgical production?

          It was never. They also need relatively little preparation. Uralmash used to smelt, but now the foundry there is closed. So there are many who can produce blanks, but they don’t advertise, because. These factories belong to the oligarchs.
          We now buy everything through tenders. At first they will buy from some merchant cheaper, then ......)
          1. +7
            9 May 2023 12: 41
            Unfortunately, a very limited number of enterprises can produce blanks; one can easily count them by two times. The specifics of the production of trunks.
            1. -2
              10 May 2023 07: 24
              Yes, there is no specificity in the casting of blanks. Just small parties. Giants with their volumes are not interested. The foundry, which was at Uralmash, was so ancient ... There was nothing unique there.
              Forging and pressing production is another topic. It didn't go anywhere.
    4. +11
      9 May 2023 18: 35
      Quote: V.
      The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry. The same as was carried out against Russian civil aviation. What debts, what shareholders can be in strategic industries? They want to strike both at production and at brains (design bureaus). What awaits "Motovilikha" in case of bankruptcy and sale? Scrapping of all equipment and sale of the plant area for shopping centers and residential complexes. (Judging by the photo, the place is very good near the river, beautiful)
      As soon as this situation arose, the competent authorities immediately had to stop all this, where there are always secrets of the FSB (formerly the KGB).
      Here is the logistics of capitalism, to sell a mother, a sister to a brothel, but to earn loot, and at least the grass does not grow there. soldier

      Although my example does not apply to the defense industry, but also from the same song!
      The Novosibirsk Oil and Fat Plant provided its products not only to the region, but very far beyond the borders of the region!
      Outcome. Bankrupt, sold, the owner demolishes the plant and builds "candles"! The place is good, housing is flying with a bang.
      Outcome. Everyone to one place of the enterprise! Someone got a good kickback! Someone expensive land for next to nothing! But for the first and second, the main thing is to fill your own pocket with loot!
      And these first and second are concerned about NWO? I really doubt!
      1. +3
        9 May 2023 20: 12
        And who is our "specialist" in oil and fat affairs? And this is the head of the State Duma and its deputies.
    5. +5
      9 May 2023 19: 46
      The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry.
      And what?! She's not even number twenty! All the same, no one will interfere with "making money" on the collapse of the military industry. She was left with tears. Such actions at any time, and even more so during hostilities, are called the word with the letter "p" and suggest a wall. Oh, sorry, we have liberalism!
    6. +2
      10 May 2023 12: 03
      Yes, everything is fine, you just need to see what is in the basis of the country, capitalism. The market decides. Sabotage, sabotage, all this is from that past era. And this is a market, a market in semi-peripheral commodity capitalism.
    7. 0
      15 May 2023 02: 15
      Quote: V.
      They want to strike both at production and at brains (design bureaus).

      I was told how investors came to a Moldovan plant that previously produced pumps and frequency converters for submarines. Buyers and investors walked around the shops and said what wonderful machines and equipment you have. We talked to the management and said how smart your managers are, just like in Europe, Israel and the USA. And so on in all areas that the Soviet and post-Soviet director demonstrates to a promising investor. And then they said at the end. Of course, your designers are soviet, but we should also go to the design bureau, we didn’t want to fire everyone en masse, maybe someone can be sent for retraining. They were allowed into KB. They talked and asked a few people to come to their hotel before they left for a follow-up interview. And they simply said: “If you move to our country, we guarantee a salary of several thousand dollars and a rented apartment during the year. an elite suburb for engineers and managers.As a result, 5 designer went to Israel, one to Germany, two to the USA.No investors needed anything more from this plant.
  2. +11
    9 May 2023 05: 02
    Where will the MZ machines go, where will the SKB machines go, it will be almost impossible to check

    It is unlikely that this carousel is started for the sake of machine tools. At old enterprises, the machines, for the most part, are dead. The plant itself is interesting: the site, access roads, workshops, labor collective.
    Two options are possible:
    First, the worst: they want to kill the plant (for various reasons: the elimination of competitors, undermining the defense, etc.).
    Second: they want to use the plant, while following their economic interests, it is unlikely that the new owner will have a priority in increasing the country's defense capability.
    And yet, to be correctly understood, I do not at all insist on state ownership, I know from personal experience how much more thoughtful private owners act, and a smart owner will not have corruption, and in my opinion a combination is needed here: an owner who thinks about the prospects of the plant and a stable state order for defense products.
    1. +5
      9 May 2023 14: 49
      What, what-corruption will not be a capitalist!?
      1. -1
        11 May 2023 09: 54
        What, what-corruption will not be a capitalist!?

        Corruption is a term usually used to refer to the abuse of office for personal gain. Officials exist only in the state. apparatus and enterprises with state. property. The "capitalist" has no "officials" at the enterprise, there are only hired workers. If they steal money from him, then it can be called something else: fraud, theft, but not corruption. But private traders make sure that they are not robbed, for obvious reasons.
        And corrupt officials live in state bodies, in state. enterprises - various kinds of officials and officials.
        Example of Mrs. corporations - "Rostec".
  3. +19
    9 May 2023 05: 07
    Victory in a war is impossible without a rear. With so many enemies of the people in the rear, victory is impossible.
  4. +13
    9 May 2023 05: 08
    Yes, the story is wonderful, and at the same time it is as old as the world. The walrus corny overshadows the eyes of bureaucrats. So it is tempting to write - hands off Perm.
    By the way, Remdizil's baksheesh apparently amounts to the very notorious 14 billion that Motovilikha was promised.
    Any quartermaster, after six months of service, you can hang without a trial

    the words are attributed to A.V. Suvorov.
    Seriously, the powers that be played with optimization. And in all directions, except for the reduction of the Pension Fund! laughing
    1. +5
      9 May 2023 19: 08
      You don’t touch the walrus) what did the Walrus do to you?))
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    2. +9
      9 May 2023 09: 39
      Misunderstanding of the situation. If they were interested in money, then the enterprise would be developed, output would be increased. Here, the interests are completely different, from working for the enemy, to a banal inability to lead and striving for an idle life.
  6. +12
    9 May 2023 05: 31
    The sale by a state corporation of an enterprise operating under the State Defense Order into private hands, and even with a violation of secrecy, is, excuse me, too much even for our country.

    Mind does not understand Russia,
    No yardstick to measure:
    She has a special become - you can only believe in Russia.
    (Fyodor Tyutchev)

    If Chubais can, then why can't Chemezov?
  7. +23
    9 May 2023 05: 36
    The situation with Motovilikha Plants is the situation with the country ... I know a couple of situations when the goal of buying our factories by foreign companies was simply to eliminate competitors.
  8. +20
    9 May 2023 05: 43
    . the total debt of PJSC "MZ" is 10,5 billion rubles.

    Plus 90% equipment wear. The company no longer exists. Some debts and cases. Ripped apart by effective owners! Now they just want to throw off the burden. Well, who will buy? In essence, they are selling their debts. And everything that was valuable there must have long been sold and pledged.

    How could the oldest city-forming enterprise in Russia, whose products are now urgently needed, find itself in such a humiliating situation? Has the market settled?

    But this is a reflection of the situation in the country itself. Efficient market owners came to the once prosperous enterprise. Then they were still poor (at the time of the collapse of the USSR), and the enterprise was strong and rich. Having sucked the juices out, the menagers became very rich, and the enterprise became a murdered debtor with worn-out funds. Alas, this is the history of many enterprises.
    1. -9
      9 May 2023 12: 09
      Replacing equipment is a good thing, but do you guarantee that the new equipment will "fit" into the old communications and buildings? What will we do if the old machine eats 15 kW, and the new one 20, and the network will not pull it, for example? Laying new communications at the "old" plant? Isn't it easier to demolish everything and rebuild?
  9. +14
    9 May 2023 06: 06
    How lacking is the best manager of the 20th century Comrade. Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich!
  10. +1
    9 May 2023 06: 16
    Happy Holiday !!!

    We seem to be coping with machining. What about REA? How many radio factories have retained at least a third of the capacity of pre-perestroika?
    1. +2
      9 May 2023 07: 30
      On the remaining ten percent, just a third of the capacity was preserved ....
  11. +13
    9 May 2023 06: 39
    The practice of cutting defense enterprises is flourishing not only here. I just rewatched the old movie "Pretty Woman" with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts. If you throw out the love line, then the bottom line is that the big financier Richard Gere is busy bankrupting enterprises and selling them piece by piece. In the movie, he is trying to bankrupt a company that produces zminets. It's not that bad. The founder of the enterprise invites Richard Gere to discuss the topic and offers not to sell the enterprise in parts, which is refused. The argument is that the company is about to receive an order for 15! destroyers are parried by the fact that everything is bought and seized in the Senate commission and no order is given to the plant.
    True, then, of course, a happy ending, love-carrots and everyone is happy, including destroyers.
    And it was the Americans who filmed about themselves for a long time! Why do we think that we should be better?
  12. +5
    9 May 2023 06: 51
    M-de, the situation is painfully reminiscent of the 90s, how many such factories I have seen - already tired.
    PiSi: I have always said that some enterprises should remain state-owned - they have been and will be unprofitable, because military equipment, by default, must be with a minimum markup, that is, with a low margin. That is, it is more profitable for a defense plant to produce civilian products in terms of money, even in a smaller volume and driving out unnecessary workers, and giving territories for warehouses, for example, for high-margin products. Or, as an option, follow the US type, where, for example, the FUCK is hung on the Chimera MLRS, they don’t need gadgets such as a crane for reloading, despite the fact that the TZM Chimera requires reloading anyway - this is only to increase the price to justify cheating per unit of goods. That there is the same destruction of defense production, even worse.
    In general, there are aspects where "the market does not decide." For example, I ran into the idiocy of one office at one time))) They, for example, when the client department orders work from their own backbone department - inside the office, calculations are made without any discounts, as to a third-party customer. If they did it at cost, the final product of the office, what they sell to customers, would be well ... One and a half times, as I thought, cheaper, that's why the TA office has now lost to Rostelecom and left the market. Because Rostelecom considers work for itself that way, but these markets have been lost, because they worked exactly as the owner ordered from behind the hillock, it rolls there, it’s just a corporate conspiracy, EVERYONE works like this - to pump out more money from the client.
    1. +11
      9 May 2023 09: 51
      No, the situation is not reminiscent of the 90s. Then the government of Gaidar, for example, bled agriculture, nullifying the savings from the sale of crops for 1991, by multiplying prices. The following year, 1992, agricultural equipment manufacturers went bankrupt, without orders.
      Now, as I understand it, they are suffocating with taxes and harassing them deliberately, in a planned way, with a high demand for the company's products.
      1. +7
        9 May 2023 11: 33
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Now, as I understand it, they are strangling with taxes and harassing them deliberately, in a planned way,

        I don’t know, I just have an idea that you can’t transfer something to the market in principle. Well, let's not talk about the military. There is such a factory Mayak. He deals with radioactive materials. So, in the market, even having built 10 private Lighthouses and arranging competition between them ... It's like recruiting 15 teams here on the site, making them a football premier league, but what? On a competitive basis - crap on vegetable oil will come out. Lighthouse - tfu itself, for example, without FSUE VNIINM them. Bochvara, will work on old equipment using old technologies, he cannot do his own at the plant, but even feed this one research institute, and there are much more - no plant will pull the money. Well, market relations are impossible there in principle even in tomato sauce!!!
        Well, about the defense is about the same
        1. +4
          9 May 2023 18: 17
          Under any conditions, planning is required to maintain important industries and maintain mobilization capacities.
    2. 0
      10 May 2023 14: 43
      on the MLRS Chimera, for example, they hang FUCK them with unnecessary bells and whistles such as a crane for reloading, despite the fact that the TZM Chimera requires reloading anyway - this is only to increase the price to justify the cheat per unit of goods.

      How does the presence of a supply vehicle, where a crane is used to load packages onto a cargo platform, make the frame with a winch on the M142 unnecessary?
  13. +6
    9 May 2023 07: 47
    . "They, the results, are not always there,"
    When Putin's power ends, then there is hope for results. And so write, complain to them all on the drum. I wrote to the Kremlin by e-mail about lawlessness. So they forwarded my complaint to these lawless people so that they could sort it out. They don't care! Whatever the child is not amused, if only she does not cry.
  14. +2
    9 May 2023 08: 00
    Is everything so sad in the state corporation Rostec? Are there entirely children of officials and managers recruited from ads?

    Here even I doubt it. It shouldn't be like that.
    No need to doubt. It shouldn't be, but it is.
  15. +5
    9 May 2023 08: 15
    Putin, as always, is not aware of the problem?
  16. +6
    9 May 2023 08: 28
    Ordinary situation.
    The right people, appointed by other right people, effectively ruined the production, accumulating debts, while benefiting the right people.
    Now the plant will go for a penny to another necessary people, they will also not remain in the loser - either they will cut them at home or they will endlessly suck money from the state.

    In fact, judging by the photo, the plant is in a pre-fainting state.
    No money has been invested in it for decades, 80 percent of the equipment is to be replaced, most likely the salary of workers is at the lower limit, and, quite possibly, they were repeatedly deceived by promises, buildings, roads, communications are kept on parole.

    Even if you want to put things in order and restore the enterprise, titanic efforts and decent investments will be required.
  17. +9
    9 May 2023 08: 39
    "Medvedev and Manturov talked about allocating 14 billion rubles for the development of the enterprise" - these people only know how to talk, they don't care, they must be talkers from the planet.
    1. +1
      9 May 2023 16: 05
      Quote: _umka_
      "Medvedev and Manturov talked about allocating 14 billion rubles for the development of the enterprise" - these people only know how to talk, they don't care, they must be talkers from the planet.


      Unfortunately, things are much worse. Manturov is the richest minister. Corruption and the deliberate destruction of engineering are put at the forefront. In submission down the hierarchical ladder, the same scoundrels and scoundrels and dirty money, as usual, go upstairs.
      That is, this is a systemic problem, the traitors and doctors of our Motherland continue to deliberately destroy the industry and the country's defense potential.

      The fact that it is supposed to leave for Kazan is also a big problem, Islam is flourishing there, followed by the CIA and rotten Muslim dictatorships. That is, it looks like an attempt to transfer important factories into the hands of enemies. Before that, Manturov's falcons could deliberately bring him to a deplorable state in order to present the deal as supposedly economically viable.

      This was often done from the very beginning of the collapse of the USSR, to buy up a technically advanced important or strategically important enterprise in order to stop it later under one pretext or another.

      The article raises an important problem, it remains only to understand who can and should be trusted to understand it, and all the threads will probably again go up to the corrupt and treacherous political leadership of the country. So the beginning of solving the problems of this plant, like many others, is the removal of ghouls and traitors from power and the restoration of the USSR, everything is as usual and almost always.
      1. +4
        9 May 2023 17: 11
        Something a lot of delicious orders went to Kazan: the production of civil aircraft, artillery products ...
  18. +10
    9 May 2023 08: 43
    Quote: ivan2022
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Quote: V.
    The Motovilikha situation is an elaborate sabotage against Russia's defense industry.

    all privatization is sabotage. the goal is to destroy the country.

    The Russian people supported privatization 30 years ago ...
    In fairness, it must be said that the Russian people at that time simply did not understand that they were being stupidly deceived in order to take away, sell, and destroy industrial enterprises that had been created for decades, and entire industries. That which was the property of the people. sad
  19. Eug
    0
    9 May 2023 09: 24
    Remdiesel, as I understand it, makes (including) army trucks. I suspect that the main goal is to close the MLRS production chain at Remdizel. My vision is that a STATE corporation with the right to OBLIGATORY order on its constituent enterprises (even partially - shares in the share package) does not carry out - the appropriate measures for management. The enterprises themselves are "included" in the corporation with different shares of shares - from 100% to 10% + 1 share, or as much as the corporation needs for a blocking stake. AND MANDATORY with the creation of MOBILIZATION RESERVES, which are not taken into account in any case (or rather, they are taken into account as a factor in reducing tax payments) in fiscal reporting. Something like this..
    1. -3
      9 May 2023 12: 45
      Remdiesel remdiesel strife. One is the structure of KAMAZ, the main thing is the repair of KAMAZ trucks and the trade in KAMAZ vehicles. And there is a remdiesel in Omsk, which deals with marine diesels.
      And KAMAZ is 47% owned by the same Rostec. And where are Chemizov and Zavyalov on the board of directors.
  20. +3
    9 May 2023 11: 02
    "Effective" managers need the absence of competition - the main driver of the market.
    Ideally, with the chain "money - money", and not "money - goods - money".

    So it is not far from feudalism with the collapse of Russia into many warring princely destinies.

    Road to nowhere.
  21. +1
    9 May 2023 11: 26
    The author here writes about the Voronezh cathode ray tube plant. The example is VERY bad.
    The whole USSR produced, in principle, the same TV with a 51 and 61 cm tube - according to the filling. And it was called 3 (in the sense of the 3rd generation) Unified Stationary Semiconductor TV. I still have a brochure on its repair on my bookshelf.
    The remaining variations are a change in the muzzle aka design.
    Further, I write without getting up from the couch according to business logic. In 1995, a new owner came to the Voronezh cathode-ray tube plant. The kinescopes that he produces were good 15 years ago, if you want to do something better like the Trinitron, change the equipment.
    The final is known to all. The "Great Television Revolution" has come, flat-panel TVs have appeared en masse, and no one needs kinescopes. Considering that the kinescope is the last mass-produced electron-beam device, it turns out that the profile of the plant must be changed COMPLETELY. In general, they gave the enterprise to the city.
    If the enterprise had not been given to Philips, then the result would have been the same, except that they had suffered longer.
    1. +1
      9 May 2023 11: 53
      For some reason, if I forced everyone to use CRT TVs, everything would be fine and the USSR would still be standing. hi
    2. +6
      9 May 2023 14: 37
      in 1995, the "Great Television Revolution" was still far away, on the contrary - just the heyday of kinescopes, the patent for the trinitron, which was issued until 2008, was expiring ...
  22. -1
    9 May 2023 11: 48
    LLC "SKS" operates and fulfills the State Defense Order. And, I note that only this organization has a license for the production of MLRS. But it is being sold, since it is generally unrealistic to separate LLC SKS and LLC MGM from PJSC MZ. All the signs of a holding are present there, the legal entities are located on the same area, have one legal address, and what's there, PJSC MZ and MGM LLC have the same director - Dyadkin Sergey Vyacheslavovich.

    That is, in fact (with the exception of some very subtleties) LLC SKS and LLC MGM are parts of PJSC MZ.

    Dear author, instead of fantasizing about steel, which can be identified by incisors, or going into an incomprehensible excursion into the history of Voronezh and Soviet televisions, they would read their own writing. What is LLC SKS?
    I understand that the author is generally far from the topic in principle, but the letters should not be confused. Who is in the subject, it immediately hurts the eye.
  23. +3
    9 May 2023 12: 25
    Rostec is big and has many faces.
    There is Technodynamics, there is Techmash, which is subject to Technodynamics. Which is 75% privately owned. But private traders are, of course, from the structure of Rostec. You can google.
    Motovilikha has long been controlled by Technodynamics. And now three enterprises, Plant 9, UralTransMash, Research Institute Burevestnik from the UVZ concern, have been transferred to the Tekhmash concern. Which is mainly engaged in the production of ammunition. So to say, they decided to concentrate the production of art in one person.
    By the way, without a reel, the production of art is now almost impossible. Motovilikha is metallurgical blanks. Neither Sverdlovsk Plant 9, nor Uraltransmash, nor Gorky Burevestnik have their own metallurgical production.
    And in the conditions of the NWO, which is unknown how long it will last in the active phase, and then it is not known how long in the frozen one, it is quite interesting to be the owner of defense enterprises. This is somewhat different than it was in the USSR.
  24. +7
    9 May 2023 12: 36
    Bankruptcy schemes for plants and factories in the mid-90s were specially developed and implemented by Mr. Chubais, and since then it has been working flawlessly
  25. +1
    9 May 2023 14: 32
    but nothing that "Remdizel" is a division of KamAZ, which deals with military platforms?

    PS: here is a fairly recent article on the topic - https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/519493
  26. +2
    9 May 2023 15: 19
    Many commentators, I understand, are completely off topic.
    Problems of the real military-industrial complex.
    including economic ones.
    Old enterprises did not save on their space. They were built on a grand scale.
    And now you have to pay for every square meter.
    You have to pay for water for the enterprise, even if you take it yourself and purify it from the river.
    You have to pay for electricity and gas, at market prices set by the state for everyone. And try not to pay.
    You have to pay tax for your property, for your production capacity.
    The state order is so intricate and requires such reporting that enterprises are forced to keep a huge staff of accounting departments, economists, and suppliers in order to compile the most complex reports.
    Now, of course, some indulgences have gone, but they still do not solve the issue in essence.
    And military products also require large resources when delivering products to military acceptance. This is a serious OTC staff. All of these are high overheads.
    Well, industrial generals-heads of defense enterprises, with their friends, relatives, their friends and relatives.
    Which over the past decade are not accustomed to deny themselves.
    Well, the desire to become a private owner of defense enterprises is completely free from some representatives of state structures.
    The motovilikha question is a prime example.
    However, there are many such examples.
    We live under capitalism. And many want to become a capitalist. And preferably for nothing, for free.
    1. +6
      9 May 2023 16: 13
      The final part of your comment means that the problem is actually political and, accordingly, it must be solved by political methods.
  27. 0
    9 May 2023 16: 22
    To give into private hands a unique enterprise that produces artillery systems - well, yes, and then we will be surprised that the MLRS instead of, say, a million rubles, will cost two. And nothing, it's a market! If you don't like it - well, go ahead and bargain! Take a ride to Tula, for example... Or to Iran.
    It doesn't work that way with the military. They are brought both a price protocol and a feasibility study, and they say "but there is only so much money, do it for them." Try to find out through your channels why the ZiH (Khrunichev plant) was bent. Do you think they just introduced articles for refusing the state defense order?
  28. +6
    9 May 2023 18: 43
    Nothing personal, just business. To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear.
    The military-industrial complex and heavy industry (its remnants) must be nationalized. There is no other way.
  29. +1
    10 May 2023 01: 11
    And what do you want, many former Soviet military factories are collapsed, they have not ordered anything for a long time, there is no equipment, there are no buildings, and maybe the idea is to simply transfer the documentation to other factories and release it. In the 80s, Gorbachev decided to arrange perestroika for everyone, we know what it came to, Putin decided to follow the same Path, or he was offered to save money.
    Well, if we assume that there are no shells for the MLRS, then they will not be needed.
  30. 0
    10 May 2023 01: 31
    There will be a grinding of the Russian defense industry, those enterprises that held on will continue to work, some will be closed. The army and military enterprises will be kept on state financing, the more it is, the better the army will keep it.
  31. +3
    10 May 2023 06: 59
    After reading the article, three words are spinning in my head: sabotage, sabotage, SMERSH
  32. +1
    10 May 2023 08: 30
    "Motovilikha" is a SYMBOL of the Feat of our People, the Feat of Home Front workers during the War!
    Destroying such plants is a STATE CRIME!
    And hundreds and thousands of such factories have already been destroyed!!!
    Who is primarily responsible for this?
    There are TOO MANY questions for Mr. President regarding this matter!!!....
    And yet more than 50% of the people are for Putin??!!...
    "The mind cannot understand Russia!"
  33. +1
    10 May 2023 08: 51
    The court should not show patriotism, the court should follow the laws written by patriot deputies ...
  34. +2
    10 May 2023 10: 31
    It is very difficult to make a U-turn towards the independent development of the Russian Federation after a 30-year selection of "effective managers" who have already pumped themselves and raised their replacements. Such cases are not resolved on the basis of the previous legal and state. bases. More needs to be changed. And who will do it?
  35. 0
    10 May 2023 11: 18
    With regards to PJSC MZ, there are unconfirmed rumors that the only real buyer of the plant is a certain Remdizel LLC. Daughter of KamAZ.

    LLC "Remdizel" is a St. Petersburg enterprise for the repair of marine diesel engines.
    And the daughter of KamAZ is JSC Remdiesel.
    By the way, here is an example of the products of this JSC:
  36. +1
    10 May 2023 19: 02
    Chemezov is a friend of Putin, Shoigu is a friend of Putin, the country is being sold and robbed by Putin's friends. And who's in charge there? Well, you get the idea.
  37. +3
    10 May 2023 21: 04
    Romka will put his poop in any barrel of honey
  38. +3
    10 May 2023 21: 22
    "Motovilikha" was essentially ruined by the Moscow Region, without giving orders. In various interviews, it was said that we have 100500 Grads and Hurricanes, and we are ahead of the rest, we will modernize everything. Even "Grad" in the modification "Tornado-G" (an extremely unfortunate name - like dumplings of the "G" category) almost stopped ordering.
  39. +2
    11 May 2023 23: 50
    Those who ruined the industry of the USSR in order to become capitalist oligarchs, they have not gone away, they are the current oligarchs of Russia. They robbed, stole what they could take abroad, sold the rights to factories abroad, and as far as I remember, not a single one was imprisoned. They saved what they could, but it didn’t work out, and to hell with it.
  40. +1
    12 May 2023 15: 46
    Quote: andrewkor
    How lacking is the best manager of the 20th century Comrade. Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich!
    Put "plus". But it would be better if instead of the term "manager", which Lavrenty Pavlovich never was, you would put the normal and understandable term "leader", or at least "manager".
    Fuck these "managers". Especially on "effective".
  41. +1
    14 May 2023 15: 12
    It seems that there is anarchy in Russia, there is neither the FSB nor the Minister of Defense. Everything is on its own, Strategic defense enterprises are ruined and robbed as they want to the detriment of the Fatherland and to the delight of the enemies, and the FSB turns a blind eye to this. And even more questions arise when you remember that the head of Rostec, Chemezov, was appointed by Putin.
  42. +1
    16 May 2023 15: 21
    Chubaisyatin in Russia is still alive and flourishing, it’s not at all clear how all these ridiculous rules of the so-called market economy can be transferred to the defense industry, the very question of the benefits of producing more modern and efficient types and types of weapons for our own army is simply ridiculous, how it is possible to assess our national security and defense capability only in monetary terms, only traitors liberals are capable of this, who again dream of the return of the liberal 90s, when Yeltsin’s liberal henchmen practically surrendered Russia to the West.
  43. 0
    17 March 2024 03: 34
    Let's look at it through the lens of the tender documents.

    MZ owes RT-Capital 7,5 billion rubles. Tula NPO "Splav" - 2 billion rubles. Rosoboronexport - 1 billion rubles. This is the controlling stake of creditors, there are more, but they are really smaller than this three,

    August 2017. An observation procedure has been opened in relation to PJSC MZ (“Motovilikhinskiye Zavody”), according to the statement of the All-Russian Research Institute “Signal”. This enterprise is the largest research organization in Russia for the development and manufacture of adjustable drives and power supply systems. Located in the city of Kovrov, Vladimir region. Naturally, it is part of Rostec.


    Those. the initiator of the bankruptcy of VNII "Signal" from Kovrov, and they are trying to sell MZ to Remdizel????
    Where is the logic?
    Shouldn’t the management of the Ministry of Health be transferred to an enterprise that develops and produces weapons, and not trucks, for example Tula Splav or the Kovrov Degtyarevsky Plant in conjunction with the VNII Signal?

    Rostec has completed the consolidation of artillery factories in order to increase production, the company’s press service reported. The Supervisory Board of the state corporation approved the transfer of three enterprises under the management of Tekhmash: the Burevestnik Research Institute (Nizhny Novgorod), Plant No. 9 and Uraltransmash.

    Why doesn’t Rostec stubbornly transfer the Ministry of Defense under the control of Tekhmash, as they did with the Nizhny Novgorod Burevestnik, or does the Ministry of Health produce some “wrong” artillery that is not needed by the Russian Defense Ministry????