"Circular saw" Sergeant Grevich

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"Circular saw" Sergeant Grevich

There was a concept in the US armed forces before and during World War II that a high rate of fire for weapons an infantryman is a disadvantage. High consumption of ammunition, rapid overheating of the barrel, increased wear of parts, etc. In the training films of the US Army of that period, which introduced soldiers to enemy weapons, it was directly stated: ours is less rapid-fire, which means it is better. The army even remade a couple of captured MG-42s for their own ammunition, and one of the requirements of the technical assignment was a multiple reduction in the rate of fire ... But more on that some other time.

At the same time, the Americans had a rifle-caliber machine gun with a very high rate of fire. Indeed, it was used in aviation. It was a Browning machine gun M2/AN (.30 caliber M2/AN). With the help of specialists from the Belgian FN Herstal, on the basis of a machine gun of the 1919 model, a rifle-caliber aircraft machine gun was created with a rate of fire of 1 rounds per minute (twice as high as that of its infantry counterpart).



The aviation browning had another interesting difference from the infantry version - it was much smaller in weight. The receiver was made of thinner metal, and the barrel was also lighter. The machine gun was almost a third lighter than the infantry М1919А4. The logic here was simple, cooling the barrel at altitude and at speed was not a problem, respectively, the barrel can be lightened, and the weight of the machine gun’s body is not needed to dampen the recoil, since the machine gun will still be mounted in the aircraft as a course or turret.


Canonical propaganda photograph of a Consolidated PBY Catalina flying boat crew member taken in 1942 at US Naval Station Corpus Christi. As we can see, the rifle-caliber M2/AN machine gun could be held even with one hand.

Although army aviation and aviation fleet they mainly used 50-caliber machine guns as forward on fighters and turrets on bombers, rifle-caliber machine guns were actively used throughout World War II as forward and turrets on dive bombers, reconnaissance aircraft, seaplanes, etc. That is, there were a lot of these machine guns , and they had a number of attractive characteristics.

Two plus two could not fail, it was only a matter of time when someone decides to use an aircraft machine gun in an infantry battle.

Milan Grevich


One of the first documented cases of this kind dates back to the fighting on Bougainville Island in 1943. We know about this thanks to the award documents of Private William Colby (Pvt. William Colby). He successfully repelled a Japanese attack using a rifle-caliber M2/AN machine gun mounted on an infantry mount.

At the same time, and around the same place, Sgt. Milan Grevich served and fought in the US Marine Corps. True, Grevich wanted a rapid-fire machine gun not as an easel machine gun, but a full-fledged rifle-caliber light machine gun with a high rate of fire.

The fact is that Grevich often went to the jungle as a patrol leader, and if he had to face the Japanese there, then there was a fleeting firefight. This is what much later, already during the period of American intervention in Vietnam, the Americans themselves will call the "seven-minute war." That is, a short-lived firefight in the jungle, where in a short period of time it is necessary to suppress the enemy with fire as much as possible, while the fire is often not aimed, since the enemy is simply not visible behind dense vegetation.


Marines' 60mm mortar crew floats along a trail on Bougainville Island, November 1943. Vegetation typical of the island is visible in the background.

And in the conditions of fire contact in the jungle, the Japanese, who had full-fledged light machine guns, could get some advantage. Yes, the Americans were head and shoulders above the Japanese in the number of self-loading and automatic weapons, but they did not have a full-fledged light machine gun. There was an automatic rifle, but the rate of fire was not the same, and a 20-round magazine. In 1943, hand-held firing of rifle-caliber Browning machine guns was already the standard shooting technique taught to machine gunners (thanks to John Basilone). But this is still feasible in an offensive in the infantry line, and the M1919A4 machine gun, in which only the body weighs 14 kilograms, you cannot carry with you on patrols.


Marines practice firing rifle-caliber machine guns from the hip, 1943-1944. As we can see, in this way they taught to fire even from machine guns with a water-cooled barrel, М1917А1. Fabric machine-gun belts are used as improvised belts for carrying and holding weapons.

So Sergeant Grevich was seduced by the opportunity to get at his disposal a full-fledged light machine gun, light, with belt feed and a high rate of fire. Shortly in the jungle, it could be fired from the hip, and at a distance used as a full-fledged light machine gun. In his opinion, the aviation M2 / AN chambered for 7,62 × 63 mm (.30-06 Springfield) was quite suitable for this role, subject to some alterations. With this idea, he came to his commander ... And he got a turn from the gate. The command of the battalion only twisted a finger at his temple and decided that the sergeant had nothing to do, since his head was full of all sorts of nonsense. The idea of ​​a rapid-fire light machine gun was rejected, and Sergeant Grevich continued to leave for the Bougainville jungle with what he had.


Staged shot of a Marine patrol in the jungles of New Britain, 1944. A grenade in hand, this is most likely a game for the camera, but the submachine gun of the Thompson M1928A1 system with a “tambourine” for 50 rounds from the patrol leader is just an objective reality. In the jungle it was possible in a fraction of a second to be nose to nose with the enemy, and it was necessary to be able to "land" the enemy a lot and quickly. But in conditions of dense vegetation, pistol ammunition was not always effective.

It was already 1944, Milan Grevich was assigned to a new unit and was part of the 5th division of the US Marine Corps on one of the Hawaiian Islands. The sergeant, who has not forgotten about his idea of ​​​​a rapid-fire light machine gun, goes to the new command and sets out his conclusions. And receives support and complete carte blanche.

In Hawaii, there were many aviation units of the fleet, army aviation and marine aviation, aircraft fought without enemy opposition, weapons also constantly failed for one reason or another, in general, there was enough “building material”.

The idea was quite simple - an aircraft machine gun was taken, the trigger mechanism was altered, a butt with a part of the stock from the Garanda M1 rifle was fitted, sights were partially homemade, partially from the BAR automatic rifle, from the last bipod and a carrying handle, and voila - the light machine gun is ready.

How many fighters took part in the work and how long it took is not known for certain. But the work continued even when the division received a combat order and departed in the direction of its goal - the island of Iwo Jima. The last machine guns were completed on board the transports on the way to the landing target.


A modern replica of the work of Sergeant Milan Grevich. Not a single original machine gun has survived to this day. This particular example was made in Canada using the original M2/AN machine gun. "Still Life" is complemented by an M1 helmet with a camouflage cover, a USMC Mark 2 knife (in the common people - Ka-Bar) and a cleaver of the USMC Hospital Corps Knife medical staff (no, this is not for amputations, but more on that some other time).

A total of six machine guns were made. The creators gave their brainchild a formidable name - Stinger. Three were assigned to platoons in G Company, 28th Regiment, 5th Division. One machine gun went to the demolition unit of the 28th Regiment. One was personally used by Sergeant Grevich as a sergeant of the company's heavy weapons platoon. One machine gun went to the company "Alpha" (A company) of the same regiment.

Maybe story about six self-made machine guns and would be lost in the general outline of the history of the landing on the island of Iwo Jima. After all, it was a big battle, involving more than 100 members of the US armed forces. But the story of one of the machine guns designed by Sergeant Grevich received an unexpected continuation and great publicity.

Tony Stein


We are talking about a machine gun that ended up in Alpha Company, namely in the hands of Corporal Tony Stein (Cpl. Tony Stein). Why one machine gun ended up in another company is not known for certain. Perhaps Stein helped in the design and manufacture of machine guns. Or maybe the fact is that Stein and Grevich were old colleagues. Both of them were "paramarines" (paramarines) - fighters of the parachute battalions of the US Marine Corps. It was after the dissolution of the paramarine units that Stein and Grevich ended up in the 5th Marine Division.


Photo of Tony Stein before he was promoted to corporal while serving in the USMC Paramarine Unit. A parachutist qualification badge is visible on the chest.

For his heroism during the Battle of Iwo Jima, Tony Stein was awarded the Medal of Honor. It was in the award documents that Stein's specific weapons were mentioned several times, namely: "home-made weapons of an aviation type" and "skillfully made home-made weapons."

We will not dwell on the feat itself, we can devote a separate article to this. Everything was there, Stein was the first to land on the shore, single-handedly attacked the bunker and suppressed it with machine-gun fire, eight times under enemy fire he returned to the company’s ammunition supply point for cartridges (the ammunition consumption of a rapid-fire machine gun is large, American military theorists were right), while each once taking out a wounded comrade from the battlefield, enemy bullets knocked the weapon out of his hands twice, but each time he picked it up and continued the battle, alone covered the retreat of one of the platoons under the onslaught of the enemy, etc. Unfortunately, on the tenth day of the battle Corporal Stein died for the island.

But the feat of Corporal Stein drew the attention of US Marine Corps officers to a machine gun designed by Sgt. Grevich. One of the machine guns went to the test.


Photo from the official test report of the Grevich machine gun. Judging by the surviving descriptions, almost all 6 machine guns differed slightly from each other in design, in particular in the location and design of sights. The photo clearly shows another feature that favorably distinguished an aircraft machine gun from an infantry machine gun, namely the ability to fix a box with a machine-gun belt on the side of the receiver.

Tests, in general, ended in nothing. The war is over, military budgets have been reduced dozens of times, many weapons projects have been shelved or simply forgotten. The idea of ​​a rapid-fire belt-fed light machine gun was not continued either.

But the story of a stubborn sergeant who did not abandon his idea, and a heroic marine paratrooper who went into eternity with an unusual weapon in his hands, received publicity and will remain with us forever.
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  1. +3
    11 May 2023 04: 33
    Such an infantryman's weapon is apparently suitable for a short or defensive battle, given the total weight of the expendable ammunition.
    1. +12
      11 May 2023 05: 06
      Quote from pavel.tipingmail.com
      Such an infantryman's weapon is apparently suitable for a short or defensive battle, given the total weight of the expendable ammunition.

      Special Forces Americans in Vietnam for such cases - battles in the thicket, preferred our RPDs, and cut them off to the very gas outlet. And they tried to fill the tapes with tracers, to create the impression of a larger number of shooters.
    2. 0
      11 May 2023 05: 06
      An interesting conclusion, given that it was used on the offensive.
    3. +2
      11 May 2023 07: 56
      Quote from pavel.tipingmail.com
      Such an infantryman's weapon is apparently suitable for a short or defensive battle, given the total weight of the expendable ammunition.

      But why? It could well have been used on the offensive in assault operations. With the help of a pair of such machine guns, it would be possible to provide significant support to units during assault operations in settlements or the same jungle. Without giving the enemy not only to open fire, but simply to stick his head out from behind shelters
      1. +3
        11 May 2023 16: 04
        With the help of a pair of such machine guns, it would be possible to provide significant support to units during assault operations in settlements or the same jungle. Without giving the enemy not only to open fire, but simply to stick his head out from behind shelters

        Which, in general, the Germans proved with their MG-38 and 42.
        1. +1
          11 May 2023 16: 31
          Quote: Shelest2000
          MG-38

          34 same! Let's count it as a typo.
      2. -1
        13 May 2023 18: 32
        Agree. A pair of rapid-fire machine guns, they don’t make a rustle. True, additional skill is needed. Give the gun to the idiot. What will happen?
  2. +6
    11 May 2023 04: 37
    Thank you!
    It is interesting to compare the drums (tambourines) of PPSh and Tom. The first is more compact, but thicker. The 7,62x25 cartridge is corny longer. American damn boy.
    Have a nice day, everyone!
    1. +9
      11 May 2023 15: 06
      Hello Vladislav! smile
      A few illustrations for your comment.

      An example of the quality of material processing. Photo of Thompson's 100-round PP magazine.

      An example of the quality of material processing. Photo store PPSh-41.
  3. +11
    11 May 2023 06: 07
    We had an honored engineer, born in 1935, who since 1942 was in a partisan detachment (my cousin fought, and he, his brother, sister and mother were on the farm).
    So he said that the ShKAS from our downed planes were the most valuable machine gun. A local craftsman converted them into universal ones with a slightly reduced rate of fire. True, their barrel quickly overheated, so they made a water casing from shell casings. He was heavy, but he pressed the punishers to the ground at once.
    1. +2
      11 May 2023 08: 31
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      So he said that the ShKAS from our downed planes were the most valuable machine gun.

      Perhaps because they were the only machine guns available. For the German ones still need to be beaten off, and the infantry ones must be received from the mainland ... hi
      1. +5
        11 May 2023 09: 33
        Rather, it should be remembered that in 1942 there were only DP (Degtyarev infantry) with a disk for 47 rounds and "Maxim" weighing 70 kg. Both machine guns available at that time, to put it mildly, did not look convincing.
        1. +4
          11 May 2023 10: 13
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          Rather, it should be remembered that in 1942 there were only DP (Degtyarev infantry) with a disk for 47 rounds and "Maxim" weighing 70 kg. Both machine guns available at that time, to put it mildly, did not look convincing.

          Well, maybe (of course not), but only acting and Maxims and even Degtyars are still found, unlike ShKAS. And ShKAS was extremely reluctant to shoot with bulk rifle cartridges.
          1. 0
            13 May 2023 18: 49
            "Maxma and even Degtyari" is not surprising: weapons love attention. Lubricated, they can lie forever
        2. +1
          11 May 2023 10: 23
          During the Second World War, light handbrakes were also developed (there were successful models) for a "pistol" cartridge.
          But after the middle and towards the end of the war, they considered it inappropriate to release.
          It's like with the T-44, good but no longer needed.
          1. +4
            11 May 2023 19: 57
            Quote: Deadush
            During the Second World War, light handbrakes were also developed (there were successful models) for a "pistol" cartridge.
            But after the middle and towards the end of the war, they considered it inappropriate to release.
            It's like with the T-44, good but no longer needed.

            Here it is necessary to fundamentally separate the grain from the chaff.
            The shortage of machine guns at the beginning of World War II gave rise to a flurry of ersatz machine guns based on DT, DP, PV, Maxim. Even Bloom was used under 5,6mm.
            You can write a separate article about various heavy fire installations.
            The facts say otherwise, they were the first to decide on the conveyor to change the old man Maxim. The brainchild of Goryunov won the competition. Then he went through the modernization of the DP, which received the letter M and a number of improvements. We received a full-fledged light machine gun with a belt after the war.
            1. -1
              12 May 2023 06: 00
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              Even Bloom was used under 5,6mm.
              The Blum machine gun was not an ersatz, and was used only as a training gun. There is not a single description of its combat use.
          2. +4
            11 May 2023 20: 41
            Quote: Deadush
            During the Second World War, light handbrakes were also developed (there were successful models) for a "pistol" cartridge.
            .
            Machine gun LAD и RPSH
            LAD was developed in 1942-43
            TTX
            cartridge TT 7,62x25mm
            length 956mm
            weight without cartridges 5,3 kg, with a tape for 150 cartridges 7,63 kg
            rate of fire 600 rpm
            There are belts for 150 rounds for shooting "on the move" and for 300 rounds for shooting from the prone. Calculation of the LAD machine gun 2 fighters (1st and 2nd number), the second number has a supply of ammunition 2 tapes of 300 rounds.
            Machine gun LAD on trials. Made 2 prototypes.
            hi
        3. +5
          11 May 2023 12: 38
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          Rather, it should be remembered that in 1942 there were only DP (Degtyarev infantry) with a disk for 47 rounds and "Maxim" weighing 70 kg.

          In 1942, the DT and DS-39 machine guns still quite came across, especially at the battlefields, and even among the enemies ...




          1. +7
            11 May 2023 14: 55
            In 1942, DT and DS-39 machine guns still quite came across


            Unfortunately, the DC-39 had too many shortcomings and was never able to bring it to the quality of a weapon suitable for "gross" production. Although On January 1, 1941, the balance sheet of the GAU consisted of 5145 machine guns, of which 2 required medium repairs and 6 were to be written off. For comparison, there were 69179 machine guns "Maxim".
            The Degtyarev easel machine gun proved difficult to manufacture and maintain in the field, its design was not sufficiently tested. The operation of the DS-39 in the army (including during the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940) caused numerous complaints related to the unreliability of the machine gun in dusty and low temperatures, the low survivability of the main parts, cases of rupture of the cartridge in the receiver. In addition, an important drawback that could not be eliminated without a fundamental change in the design was the impossibility of using instead of cartridges with a steel or bimetallic sleeve (new model) similar cartridges with a brass sleeve, large stocks of which were available in warehouses, which during the conduct of hostilities could cause difficulties with ammunition supply.

            As a result, despite the ease of operation, lighter weight and greater firepower, in June 1941 (shortly before the start of World War II), the DS-39 were discontinued, and TOZ resumed the production of reliable and undemanding machine guns of the Maxim system mod. 1910/30
        4. 0
          13 May 2023 19: 01
          There was also a Goryunov tank machine gun, the same Maxim, but air-cooled
    2. +9
      11 May 2023 10: 41
      ShKAS requires its own cartridge with a reinforced sleeve and rolling.
      An ordinary cartridge will not work - it will be unloaded.
      1. +5
        11 May 2023 14: 54
        Quote: Zufei
        ShKAS requires its own cartridge with a reinforced sleeve and rolling.
        An ordinary cartridge will not work - it will be unloaded.

        Novikov wrote that ShKAS had problems even with native cartridges - when replacing the varnish on the foil at the place where the primer was attached.
        Evidence of what subtleties there were in the production of ammunition is an incident that occurred even before the war with ShKAS machine guns. For no reason at all, they suddenly began to misfire. Suspicion fell on the cartridges. Shot these cartridges from infantry weapons. All cartridges were normal. Looking further, we found that individual batches of cartridges do not misfire when firing from an aircraft machine gun. We noticed that the foil in the place where the primer was attached in different batches was covered with different varnish: in some - red, in others - black. Misfires were not given by cartridges with red varnish, with black - on the contrary. Red varnish was imported, black - domestic. All cartridges with primers coated with black lacquer were seized from aviation and handed over to the "ground crews". The Air Force began to supply cartridges, where the lacquer was red at the primer. Domestic varnish, as it turned out, had a bad effect on the foil. They took up the varnish closely and eliminated the defect.
  4. +7
    11 May 2023 09: 30
    Shortly in the jungle, it could be fired from the hip, and at a distance used as a full-fledged light machine gun. In his opinion, the aviation M2 / AN chambered for 7,62 × 63 mm (.30-06 Springfield) was quite suitable for this role, subject to some alterations. With this idea, he came to his commander ... And he got a turn from the gate.

    Here it should be clarified that the platoon commander, to whom Sergeant Grevich turned, Lieutenant Phillip Gray, not only fully approved the idea, but also took an active part in the manufacture of a "demonstration sample", beyond which at that time the matter did not advance.
  5. +7
    11 May 2023 09: 34
    How many fighters took part in the work and how long it took is not known for certain.

    The name of one of them is known for certain - Private First Class John Lyttle.
  6. +9
    11 May 2023 10: 29
    In 1943, hand-held firing of rifle-caliber Browning machine guns was already the standard shooting technique taught to machine gunners (thanks to John Basilone).

    How this shooting looked like in practice (TV series "The Pacific"):

    To hold the machine gun, it is no longer a cloth tape that is used, but a standard wire removable handle.
  7. +2
    11 May 2023 12: 49
    If I'm not mistaken, this is one of the best and most powerful light machine guns in the FarCry games. In the game, it is called "Circular Saw".
  8. +3
    11 May 2023 13: 11
    Very interesting. As always, progress is driven by enthusiasts who clearly understand the goals and means of achieving.
  9. 0
    11 May 2023 15: 09
    But the story of a stubborn sergeant who did not abandon his idea, and a heroic marine paratrooper who went into eternity with an unusual weapon in his hands, received publicity and will remain with us forever.

    With you forever.
  10. +9
    11 May 2023 15: 12
    Thanks to the author for an interesting and competent article! good

    By the way, even after the war, the American failed to create his own "competent" light machine gun.
    Their single M60 was just an unsuccessful "hybrid" of the German FG-42 and MG 42.

    1. +2
      12 May 2023 13: 03
      Their single M60 was just an unsuccessful "hybrid" of the German FG-42 and MG 42.

      Yet to name a sample, located in production for almost seventy years and used all over the world "unsuccessful" would be incorrect, to say the least.
      And about the "competent" light machine gun, "everything is not so simple."

      1. +2
        12 May 2023 19: 42
        The M60 is the first unified US machine gun to be affectionately nicknamed "The Pig" by soldiers.

        This incorrect nickname was stuck to him by American soldiers without my participation.

        For a machine gun that was based on successful "examples" and developed for so long, the M60 turned out to be unexpectedly nasty. Firstly, the barrel did not have a handle for weaning, which led to burns for machine gunners. Therefore, an asbestos glove was added to their arsenal - but who will look for it in the midst of a battle? Yes, and the change of the barrel itself required time and extra effort. A bipod and a gas outlet were attached directly to the barrel, which had to be disconnected / attached when replacing the barrel. The gas engine itself was fastened with a nut, which untwisted and fell out during intense shooting.


        You yourself can read about further attempts to modernize this miracle of technology on the net, there are a lot of articles on this topic.

        The Stoner 63A Commando / Mk.23 mod.0 light machine gun you cited as an example has never been in service with the army.
        The Stoner 63 did not reach full-scale commissioning, it was limited to small-scale production, its adoption by the US Navy special forces units in the "light machine gun" version and the purchase of an experimental batch for the US Marine Corps and US Army units in the continental states, about 2,4 thousand copies[4][6]. The Stoner 63A was the main armament of the SEAL units during the Vietnam War[7].



        Plus you with an acquaintance. smile
        1. +1
          12 May 2023 19: 56
          You yourself can read about further attempts to modernize this miracle of technology on the net, there are a lot of articles on this topic.

          I am quite familiar with this machine gun in practice. True, the first versions did not come across, only the M60E3. With a heavy barrel - a completely normal car.
          The Stoner 63A Commando / Mk.23 mod.0 light machine gun you cited as an example has never been in service with the army.

          But that doesn't change its existence, does it?
          By the way, he did not get into service with the army, not because he was bad. The Vietnam War is over.
          1. +1
            12 May 2023 20: 40
            I, alas, am only familiar with the M60. visually, the guys had several cars in the storeroom at the Museum of the Armed Forces, for the sake of interest, I fiddled with disassembly and assembly, I didn’t like it at all. There is no comparison with the Germans and ours.
            And I'm not saying that Stoner is bad, I'm saying that he was not in the army, and the reason is secondary. smile
            By the way, about the Stoner weapon - how many people, so many opinions, I mean those who really used, say, the M16. It's clear that shooting at a shooting range is one thing, but working on combat is completely different.
            1. +1
              12 May 2023 21: 02
              It's clear that shooting at a shooting range is one thing, but working on combat is completely different.

              In combat conditions, the M16 could not be used. Is it possible to consider killing a caiman at the request of the natives as such. The tail makes a delicious dish.
              1. +1
                12 May 2023 21: 23
                Haven't tried the tail of the caiman. smile
                Go now to History, Ryzhov's article about Khodynka, almost all of our people are there, get to know each other, worthy people. drinks
  11. +7
    11 May 2023 17: 30
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And ShKAS was extremely reluctant to shoot with bulk rifle cartridges.

    ShKAS did not shoot with conventional cartridges. Except solitary. And it would be very problematic for partisans to get zinc with a "propeller". I have come across references to the use of self-made memory devices based on Shpitalny's product in air defense of airfields.
    1. Alf
      +2
      11 May 2023 19: 52
      Quote: Zufei
      And it would be very problematic for partisans to get zinc with a "propeller".

      Why do you think so ? And where did the partisans take the ShKAS?
    2. +1
      12 May 2023 06: 09
      Quote: Zufei
      ShKAS did not shoot with conventional cartridges. Except solitary.

      The comment also indicates a slight decrease in the rate of fire.
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      A local craftsman converted them into universal ones with a slightly reduced rate of fire.

      And all the problems with the cartridge at ShKAS were precisely because of the rate of fire.
      But in general, my answer was to this nonsense:
      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
      Rather, it should be remembered that in 1942 there were only DP (Degtyarev infantry) with a disk for 47 rounds and "Maxim" weighing 70 kg. Both machine guns available at that time, to put it mildly, did not look convincing.
      hi
  12. +2
    11 May 2023 21: 30
    Thanks to the author for an interesting article. About the jungle - immediately remembered Jesse Ventura as Blaine Cooper
  13. 0
    12 May 2023 15: 26
    Author, will there be material about Tony Stein? A hero with a unique weapon is worthy of memory and a good text about him.
  14. 0
    13 May 2023 20: 59
    Thanks for the article, first time I heard about this story. I join the request about the material about Tony Stein.
  15. 0
    15 May 2023 18: 12
    I read the article carefully, I was not familiar with this issue. However, I was more interested in the discussion, which was extremely interesting and useful for me. Thanks to the author and colleagues, I was indignant with pleasure. am
  16. 0
    17 September 2023 10: 09
    Thank you, I laughed. I asked here on the website why none of the gunsmiths use a solid pipe, without holes in the sides, extending one centimeter beyond the edge of the barrel, to create a barrel cooling system based on the ejector principle with shot waste. And I received an answer - the manufacturers say that there will be unnecessary fuss, and the effect is negligible.
    And what do we see?)) The aviation version of the rapid-firing machine gun is almost twice as light as the infantry one. And it works great. What is the difference? The only and exclusive thing is that the barrel of the machine gun... pubs... is blown by a stream of air! The speed of this flow in general is equal to the average speed of the aircraft of that time, that is, 300-400 km/h, i.e. 110m/s. The speed of release of powder gases when exiting the barrel is 1100-1400 m/s, that is, ten times more. Given such a difference, it is almost impossible not to create an ejector with the required parameters)
    Conclusion - either there is selfish interest (weapons manufacturers do not want to make their products lighter and increase their survivability), or the usual, ubiquitous, beloved stupidity. Funny. Is it true...