The US Navy needs more frigates

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The US Navy needs more frigates


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This year, another reduction in the ship's composition is expected.



11 ships are decommissioned, 9 are put into service if everything goes well.

Extending the life of the Nimitz aircraft carrier by another year, until 2026, as the Ford program continues to shift to the right. To do this, the ship will have to undergo a five-month repair, costing about $ 200 million, which still needs to be knocked out of Congress.

Given the situation with the economy and finances, it will not be easy. If everything goes according to schedule, then in 2026-2027. write off two nuclear aircraft carriers at once - "Nimitz" and "Eisenhower".

AUG escort ships


The second pressing problem is the AUG escort ships.

The number of escort ships has dropped to a dangerously low level. If during the Cold War the aircraft carrier was accompanied by a group of one or two URO cruisers of the Ticonderoga type, 4-5 destroyers of the Arly Bjork type. Now, as a rule, two or three ships. Cruiser plus a couple of destroyers.

However, five Ticonderogs will be decommissioned in the next two years, then the process will go on increasing, and only Bjerki will accompany the AUG.

This situation requires the speedy entry into service of a large number of Constellation-class frigates. Naval leadership fleet wants to increase construction of a series of new guided-missile frigates to four ships a year as soon as practical, military leaders told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday.

By the end of the year, the Navy expects Constellation-class (FFG-62) shipbuilder Fincantieri Marinette Marine to prepare a technical data package for a second shipbuilder that will start building more frigates, Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro said.

Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Mike Gilday, said the Navy would like both Marinette and the second shipyard to produce two Connies a year.

“I think it is very important that we can organize work at the second shipyard and get a two-year [rate] from each shipyard,”

he told the committee.

Marinette began manufacturing the first Constellation spacecraft (FFG-62) last year after a $2020 million commitment was made in 795.

The requirement to build four Constellations per year is a departure from the Navy's current long-term outlook for the frigate line. Based on two of three options for a 30-year shipbuilding plan for FY2024, as the Navy initially planned to receive three frigates every two years. The current "sawtooth" scheme rotates the purchase of one to two frigates every two years until 2027, for a total of seven in the current five-year budget forecast.

While the shipbuilding plan, also released on Tuesday, is an interim step ahead of a scheduled Naval force structure assessment due in June, the new report provides insight into why the Navy would like to speed up construction of the line.

"The increase in the number of small multi-role warships, such as the Constellation-class (FFG 62) frigates, allows for a more efficient distribution of tasks across the surface fleet, freeing up more combat-ready [guided missile destroyers] for high-level critical missions."

The current Arleigh Burke-class destroyers have been assigned low-intensity missions as part of individual deployments, such as providing base platforms for Coast Guard law enforcement missions.

The 7-ton frigate is based on the FREMM frigate of the Italian and French navies, but has been heavily modified to meet US military survivability standards, growth stocks, and government-provided equipment. Gibbs & Cox, a subsidiary of Leidos, reworked the original design.

Alas, the reduction in the cost of the project has led to the fact that the new frigates cannot use the SM-6 missiles and the Tomahawk missile defense system.

The original design of the 7-ton frigate called for a 300-element Mark-32 vertical launch system, which was supposed to accommodate the smaller Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 41 and SM-2 Block IIIC missiles. The SM-2 and Tomahawk are larger missiles and require a longer version of the VLS and additional software, and in the case of the Tomahawk, additional control stations.

Constellation-class frigate program manager Capt. Kevin Smith said the program office, Air Systems Command and Naval Maritime Systems Command are working to implement the new requirements for frigates starting with Second Corps.

The Navy ordered the URO frigate after intense congressional pressure led by the late Senator John McCain (R-Arizona), who was highly critical of the littoral combat ship program and wanted the Navy to pursue a warship with greater capabilities such as advanced air defense capabilities and the role of anti-submarine defense.

Second shipyard


After Fincantieri Marinette Marine won the initial contract in 2020, the terms of the contract included ownership of the technical data packages needed to build the ship so that the Navy could bid for a second shipyard.

Gulf Coast shipyards Austal USA in Mobile, Alabama and Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula, Mississippi are positioning themselves as possible frigate shipyards. Austal, which once only built aluminum ships, has built a steel line to expand the types of ships it can build. Ingalls is finishing up the last National Security boats for the Coast Guard and has building capacity.

However, the Constellation program will only show any tangible results in the distant future, even if shipbuilders can sustain the rate of four ships a year. Since the parallel decommissioning of the Ticonderogs is proceeding at a faster pace.
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  1. +4
    April 27 2023 04: 54
    Renting four frigates a year is cool. We would like that. At least in the plans. As N.S. Khrushchev - "We have a plan, and this is 50% of the work done." soldier
    1. +12
      April 27 2023 06: 05
      Quote: V.
      Renting four frigates a year is cool. We would like that. At least in the plans.

      We have plans (and in current plans) to hand over / receive two frigates 22350 \ 22350.1 at the Admiralty Shipyards next year. Actually, they wanted to receive two frigates this year already this year, but ... from the next. There is only one in this.
      Also this year, the signing of a contract for the construction of the same frigates at the Amur Shipyard was announced. There are seven slipways capable of building and launching VI ships up to 8000 tons. So if the industry does not let us down with the power plant (and domestic power plants have already gone to the CVD), then in a few years we can reach the pace of building 4 frigates per year on two shipyards.
      If it turns out that this is not enough, it will be possible eventually to connect the Kaliningrad "Yantar" to this program (22350.1 and 22350M). Previously, they built huge series there, etc. 1135, 11356 and 1155, so the stocks, dock and their number will completely allow this.
      But if you build ships of a larger VI and dimension, then this is only a new boathouse on the Admiralteisky (two construction sites) and those slipways where nuclear icebreakers are now being built.
      If you apply a sufficient amount of funds, mind and desire, then you can build large ships in Kerch on the "Gulf". Although cruisers, even battleships, even aircraft carriers - the size of the dock, slipways and slips are quite suitable for this, but a very serious reconstruction and development of the enterprise itself will be required.
      It is also possible over time to attach nearby (or expand) additional capacities at Zvezda in Bolshoy Kamen - a cluster of military shipbuilding. There is already a shipyard for submarines there, so the CVD for the construction of large warships will not be superfluous at all. In any case, it will be much more convenient than carrying ships in a floating dock along the Amur and completing their construction in Vladivostok.
      This is if there are firm plans to build the Fleet. And do not wag your tongues about plans.
      1. +8
        April 27 2023 08: 44
        We have plans

        In addition to production, we also have a purely geographical problem, which is not very solvable .. If the United States has, in general, two fleets - the Atlantic and the Pacific, between which the transfer of forces is possible, then we have FOUR of them, practically isolated .. The danger of this became clear even in the Russian-Japanese war. For the enemy, by definition, can concentrate more ships in the right direction than we do, even with the general equality of the fleets.

        It is not for nothing that the USSR, clearly realizing this, made a bet on the submarine fleet and - long-range naval missile-carrying aviation .. And - how about this in today's Russian Federation? How many regiments of missile carriers do we have anyway?
        1. 0
          April 27 2023 22: 36
          Plans have already made half the world laugh, unfortunately.
        2. +4
          April 27 2023 23: 06
          Quote: paul3390
          And - how about this in the current Russian Federation? How many regiments of missile carriers do we have anyway?

          The revival of the MPA has long been discussed on the forums, and a lot. The whole trouble is that we now do not have suitable carriers of anti-ship missiles, except for the old, breathing Tu-22M3 and Kh-35 \ Kh-31 carriers, which can be any tactical fighters, but for large ships they are insufficient and their range small - a little more than 200 km.
          For some reason, instead of immediately making an aviation GZUR (as she planned and even started flight throw tests), the terms of reference were changed and they began to sculpt a ship-based anti-ship missile defense system, which is more difficult to implement, which will have a shorter range, requires a more powerful launch booster and under which there are stupidly too few carriers who will not be especially allowed to roam on the high seas during a threatened, and there more during a war period ... The tonsils were again removed through the anus ... according to the tradition of the new state and military thought.
          Then the "Dagger" appeared on the MiG-31K and they began to compose anti-ship missiles from it ... but apparently it is not very good for a moving sea target (it was not exactly reported about successes) ... except that the nuclear warhead will help such sea targets.
          Therefore, to this day, one can only dream of MPA shelves.
          There were ideas to adapt the modification of the Su-34 to the MRA aircraft. The chief designer of this aircraft claimed that it was possible to modify the Su-34 as a carrier of Onyxes (then - during conversations) or Zircon, three such missiles at maximum load (for short range), with two missiles (standard equipment for a medium range ) and with one such missile for launch at the maximum carrier flight range.
          In the absence of then, even in projects of other types of media, this solution would be optimal.
          But!
          The "wise men" of the Kremlin towers at that time (not so distant, by the way) were generally going to STOP the production of military aviation, limiting themselves to the 120th Su-34 ... they were not even going to replace all the old Su-24Ms. They also wanted to limit the Su-35S to a batch of about 100 pieces. The Su-30SM was declared as a naval aviation fighter and ... essentially made a MICROSCOPIC order ... and until very recently it was not extended. And this is about aviation of the Aerospace Forces. What kind of revival of the MRA is there? If the guarantor for cameras in Komsomolsk himself advised aircraft manufacturers to prepare for curtailing orders and switch to "producing pans or looking for foreign customers." And the owners of aircraft factories reacted to the will of the guarantor by amicable dismissal of personnel.
          And then ?
          And then it suddenly turned out that the newest hyped Su-57 ... was SOMEONE to build. request The employees were then fired, and in a couple of years they found a more interesting use for themselves or left the region altogether ... I had to urgently recruit schoolchildren and graduates of vocational schools / colleges and train them at the plant itself.
          And so it was. The local newspapers wrote excitedly about that.
          Result?
          It is visible to everyone. Like wool from a piglet - a lot of screeching, little wool.
          Tradition. Or just Stability.

          Quote: paul3390
          the enemy - by definition, can concentrate more ships in the right direction than we do, even with the general equality of the fleets.

          And this in no way removes the obligation from our Fleet to ensure the security of our maritime borders, and we have very long ones. And corvettes (especially those like ours) definitely cannot be protected. We need a minimum of frigates. And in sufficient quantity. And this is only for actions in their coastal zones and inland seas (Okhotsk, Black). The Pacific Fleet can enter the ocean zone through the strait zones of the Kuril chain.
          But the whole conflict of the situation with the Fleet is that today it is SHARPLY needed by domestic business. To ensure the safety of navigation. For over the past year, our resource-export business has been purchased on the secondary market by hundreds of large ships ... and they need to be protected ... pirates do not sleep ... including the fleets of those whose culture is built on maritime piracy. So the Fleet will still have to be built. And most likely a really full-fledged Fleet.
          hi
      2. +15
        April 27 2023 09: 11
        Quote: bayard
        This is if there are firm plans to build the Fleet. And do not wag your tongues about plans.

        And here, inappropriately, a bearded anecdote comes to mind: "theoretically, we have $ 3 million, but practically - two ladies of easy virtue and one gay guy"
        1. +2
          April 27 2023 21: 40
          Old, but relevant, at all times anecdote. good
        2. +2
          April 27 2023 22: 37
          A very correct anecdote for this situation, alas.
      3. +7
        April 27 2023 09: 35
        In principle, the situation turns out to be the same as with civil aviation, but by 2030 we will have almost everything.
        As a former shipbuilder and ship repairer, I still do not see any tension in military shipbuilding. Although, due to the presence of shipbuilding plants, it is possible to meet the restoration of the fleet in five years.
        What is four ships a year - it's almost a squadron, and six is ​​a squadron. The main headquarters of the Navy can already rub their hands with joy, at least from the appearance of another admiral's position. And how many more small junk up to 60 meters in size, and even a larger displacement.
        You also need to force Rosneft to raise and restore the floating dock drowned through their fault.
        And basically you're right, we talk more about plans. soldier
        1. +2
          April 27 2023 22: 40
          And the plans of our "wise men" to produce more than 500 civilian aircraft by 2025 do not seem "overstated" to you wassat
          1. 0
            April 28 2023 14: 27
            Quote: Alien From
            And the plans of our "wise men" to produce more than 500 civilian aircraft by 2025

            There can be no such plans. These are needs.
            If half is done by 2030, there will already be a miracle.
            Here we need some asymmetric approach.
      4. +2
        April 27 2023 18: 38
        Kaliningrad Yantar is busy with the construction of the large landing ship, and our fleet needs them. Polish crocodiles approaching their critical exploitation line. Moreover, they burned their motor resource on the "Syrian traffic".
        At the Amur Shipyard in the summer, they plan to conclude a contract for the construction of 6 frigates 22350.
        5 frigates are being built at the St. Petersburg shipyards and contracts have been signed for 2.
        The slipway for frigates 22350M, which has not yet been modernized, is promised to be completed this year, and for this reason, the ships are not laid down.
        1. 0
          April 27 2023 23: 16
          Quote: Sergey39
          Kaliningrad Yantar is loaded with the construction of the large landing ship,

          There are absolutely no rumors about this construction, although it is high time to break the champagne on board in terms of timing. Maybe sabotage, or maybe an old tradition - problems / lack of power plants. There, after all, the power plant from the corvette pr. 20380, and they barely manage to assemble one and a half sets a year on corvettes ... At the same time, the frigates of the entire series of pr. 11356 were built very briskly - no more than 3,5 years from laying to delivery to the customer. It means that they have not forgotten how to work there, they would provide all contractors for cooperation.
          We have problems with marine diesel engines. Therefore, if the industry accelerates with the power plant for frigates, then we need to build what we can. Moreover, they (frigates) are more needed.
        2. 0
          April 28 2023 17: 26
          I don’t think that such a plant as Yantar is so loaded with orders for BDK that it cannot produce a couple of frigates. Moreover, part of the BDK can be given to the Kerch "Zaliv"
      5. Eug
        0
        April 27 2023 20: 34
        There is also the Sea - in Feodosia. Once upon a time a very serious shipyard.
        1. +2
          April 27 2023 23: 22
          Quote: Eug
          There is also the Sea - in Feodosia. Once upon a time a very serious shipyard.

          "More" - the plant has a very good potential. If desired, aircraft carriers can also be built there, a dock 400 meters long allows this. That's just the problem with personnel and technical equipment must be solved. A good director , direct state funding with prosecutorial support , orders and responsibility for implementation .
          But 100+ billion rubles have already been cut on it. for two UDC. For they were laid down with pomp back in 2020, and to this day, nothing rises on the stocks ... and after all, they should (at least) be launched into the water ... But they launched something else there.
          1. +1
            April 29 2023 10: 25
            You probably confused the Feodosia plant with the Kerch plant. This is their big dry dock. Feodosia specializes in small, fast ships and hovercraft.
  2. 0
    April 27 2023 06: 36
    and the AUG will be accompanied mainly by Bjerki

    The author, well, just phonetically scratches the eye! They are Berks, phonetically not even close to what you wrote ... And Bjork is Gudmundsdottir!
    The singer was. Bjork...
    And with frigates they have a long topic))) LCS they are notably all about raspberries. By the way, finally put a bunch more:
    https://marineindustrynews.co.uk/ru/us-warship-with-tugboat-during-disastrous-launch/
    Now they will launch all the ships with a lift, and this, except for the FUCKING cut, is again the time until this nafig not necessary lifting system is sucked out of the finger)))
    1. +2
      April 27 2023 18: 02
      Citizen Arly Björk was Norwegian by origin, so I am writing as a Norwegian. Although, I do not pretend to be particularly accurate in spelling and syntax.
      1. +6
        April 27 2023 18: 14
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Citizen Arly Bjork was Norwegian by origin, therefore I am writing as a Norwegian

        Citizen Arly was an American. Of Norwegian origin was August Björkgren, his grandfather, who emigrated to the United States. But he changed his last name to "Burke" Arleigh Albert Burke
        1. 0
          April 27 2023 20: 14
          Didn't I just write that? "By origin was a Norwegian." And in the USA they like to talk about it - what country do they come from.
  3. +2
    April 27 2023 09: 09
    American innovation leads to strange, unbalanced ships. There are also many questions for the Constellation. For example, a 57 mm gun is for a frigate? This was only on Perry, there was a motto - save on everything. And if you support the landing in some special operation, do you need to send dear Burke?
    And the fact that a frigate, by definition, a PLO ship, has no means of destroying PLO in general, neither torpedoes, nor PLO missiles, is how to understand such an idea? It was easy to add 8 more shortest cells ("self-defense") MK41 for ECSM - these are 32 missiles, and use larger cells under SM-2. There was no problem adding an extra meter of launcher length as well, so that they could launch all types of missiles. But they didn't add it. It is not surprising that from the second building they began to redo the project, it was clear from the very beginning that it was made with gross errors in the concept.
    1. 0
      April 27 2023 12: 06
      does not have anti-aircraft weapons

      Well - like Mk 41 is mounted on it, can you put ASROC in there?
      1. 0
        April 27 2023 15: 22
        However, the original project is not provided.
        Although, according to other sources, other types of missiles can be used in them, the cells are still the maximum length for the MK41. Perhaps there is no starting equipment.
        Armaments
        32 Mark 41 VLS cells with:
        BGM-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missile[6]
        Possibly RIM-162 ESSM Block 2 and/or RIM-174 Standard ERAM missiles
        planned RIM-66 Standard SM-2 Block 3C
        16 × canister-launched over-the-horizon anti-ship weapons (likely Naval Strike Missile)
        RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile launched from Mk 49 Guided Missile Launching System (21 cell)
        Mk 110 57mm gun with the Advanced Low Cost Munition Ordnance (ALaMO) projectile and related systems.[7]
        Various machine guns M240 or M2

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation-class_frigate
        That is, Tomahawks are provided, SM-2 are planned, SM-6 and ECSM are possible - all within 32 cells. But Asrokov is not on the list.
    2. -2
      April 27 2023 14: 09
      We also have enough imbalances, mainly related to the lack or loss of technologies, personnel...
    3. +1
      April 27 2023 18: 06
      These frigates, still only "on paper", let's see what they will be at sea with eight points, already raise a lot of questions. A ship with a displacement of 7 tons, not much smaller than the "bjork", while the b / c is half as much. Theoretically, it is possible to install two inclined packages of "harpoons", another 300 anti-ship missiles. But the "harpoon", on a promising frigate, is somehow a little funny.
    4. -1
      April 27 2023 19: 45
      Quote from solar
      For example, a 57 mm gun is for a frigate?

      The question is why is it there at all.
      Quote from solar
      And if you support the landing in some special operation

      Landing ship type "America".
      Quote from solar
      And the fact that a frigate, by definition, a PLO ship, has no means of destroying PLO at all

      Apparently you have your own definition of a frigate, and the Americans have their own.
      Quote from solar
      There was no problem adding also an extra meter of launcher length

      The constellation carries the maximum amount of weapons that can be placed in a given hull of the FREMM frigate. If you need more weapons, you need to do a new project.
      1. -3
        April 27 2023 21: 47
        Quote: Negro
        The question is why is it there at all.

        Air defense.
      2. 0
        April 28 2023 12: 27
        "Apparently you have your own definition of a frigate, and the Americans have their own."
        Mysterious. With a full PLO detection complex
        AN/SQQ-89F (BIUS PLO)
        AN / SLQ-61 (towed GAS)
        AN / SLQ-62 (VAS variable depth)

        In this case, there are no means of destroying anti-aircraft missiles. What will they do if the boat is discovered? Lower a diver to attach a mine?
        "The Constellation carries the maximum amount of weapons that can be placed in a given FREMM frigate hull. If more weapons are needed, a new project needs to be done."

        And there was no need to put anything there, just provide for the use of Asrok from already installed Mk41 cells. Or at least add small-sized torpedoes, they are on the Fremms.
        There after all 7300 tons.
        The French themselves were able to place a similar weapon system of 3200 tons - frigates of the Formidebl type.
        1. -1
          April 28 2023 18: 10
          Quote from solar
          In this case, there are no means of destroying anti-aircraft missiles.

          Who said such nonsense? Are you going to drop bombs from the stern? Or another anachronism, torpedo tubes, to use?
          Helicopter torpedoes and/or MK-41 RUM-139 torpedoes are what's relevant, not World War II cosplay.

    5. 0
      April 28 2023 17: 30
      PLO for these frigates is not a priority, since in the AUG the main functions of the PLO are performed by the MAPL. But air defense is critically important, but firstly, there are few UVPs, and secondly, there are no long-range missiles. This is strange.
  4. +1
    April 27 2023 14: 08
    They are going to hand over 4 URO frigates a year. And build another shipyard. You can laugh as much as you like at the "stupid Americans" and the extent of their corruption, but they will do it, while in our country they transfer the forest to "plans", and each time "everything will be" - first until 2020, then - until 2025, now - until 2030, then - until 2035. We know that we have listened to "ceremonial" declarations more than once ...
  5. 0
    April 27 2023 21: 44
    And how do the survivability requirements of the Yankees fundamentally differ from the French / Italians?
    1. 0
      April 28 2023 20: 15
      I think this is classified information. However, in Europe, recently, ships have begun to be built according to civil shipbuilding standards. Simplification and cheapening. That's why the "mistrals" turned out to be so cheap. "Floreal" frigates are also by civilian standards.
  6. 0
    April 27 2023 21: 52
    However, five Ticonderogs will be decommissioned in the next two years, then the process will go on increasing, and only Bjerki will accompany the AUG.


    In fact, this information is incredibly important and useful. Especially in combination with:
    ... the cheaper project has led to the fact that the new frigates cannot use the SM-6 SAM and the Tomahawk DB KR


    Indeed, in sum, this leads to the problem of the American fleet. The basis of the American fleet is the AUG and KUG (although the main ones are still their AUG). But unescorted large attack ships are becoming much more vulnerable. And this creates a "window of weakness". This is a period that can last from a couple of years to almost ten, during which the old escort ships are decommissioned (and those that still remain are in poor condition) and the new ones have not yet been completed (or built, but have not yet completed final tests and the crew is not used to ).

    Management understands this. And will do everything possible to shorten this "window of weakness", as well as (THE MOST IMPORTANT!!!) to prevent the start of an armed clash with a strong enemy at this very moment in time. Since they understand that during this period of weakness, their main strike forces (AUG and KUG) will be poorly protected.
    1. 0
      April 28 2023 17: 34
      The point is that if mattress covers can withstand the pace - four frigates a year, then real results will be visible, somewhere around the year in 2028.
    2. -1
      April 28 2023 18: 17
      Quote: Mustachioed Kok
      new frigates cannot use the SM-6 SAM and the Tomahawk DB CD

      Why does the frigate need these missiles? Instead of axes, it is better to spend cells on air defense / missile defense missiles and anti-submarine torpedo missiles. SM-6 in the presence of SM-2 Block IIIC for self-defense and defense of the convoy is not needed.
      In reality, these missiles make no sense for the frigate. They are for destroyers and cruisers. Ships of stupidly different classes. If they come from the second ship, good news for us. Useless waste of money.
      1. -1
        April 28 2023 18: 56
        Here on this frigate, just a UVP, which does not accommodate either "axes" or long-range missiles. See what comes of it.
  7. MSN
    0
    2 May 2023 18: 40
    If during the Cold War the aircraft carrier was accompanied by a group of one or two Ticonderoga-class URO cruisers, 4-5 Arly Bjork-class destroyers

    Youth ... Berkov during the years of the Cold War was - 0 (zero). Spruences rolled.
    1. 0
      4 May 2023 08: 22
      And what does it change? Do you want to say that three "Bjerks" will replace two "Tiki" and four or five "Spruences", given that the potential enemy also did not stand still?
      1. MSN
        0
        11 May 2023 20: 27
        I would like it to change the degree of your ignorance. As for - they will replace Bjerki Spruens, or vice versa. The Bjorks are the first of the American destroyers that can hold 30 knots in all weather. Accordingly, they will always be near AB. For any tasks of the air wing. What is the conclusion: 3 nearby is always better than 30 very far away.
        1. 0
          12 May 2023 12: 18
          30 knots in a twelve-point storm?))) who are you telling this to? a bulk carrier of 50 thousand tons pulls like a shell. And a trough with a displacement of 10 thousand tons can only become a bow (stern) to the wave and wait for the weather to improve. Well, still pray that it doesn’t break on the wave)))
          1. MSN
            0
            12 May 2023 17: 20
            30 knots with waves up to 9 points (for waves, this is the maximum, as it were). Sea trial tested USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51). At 7-point waves, a helicopter can take. As for the 12 point wind, according to Burke's specification " Touch Stability:
            100 knot beam wind in all loading conditions
            "
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Do you want to say that three "Bjerks" will replace two "Tiki" and four or five "Spruences", given that the potential enemy also did not stand still?

            Considering that Burke is Aegis, then yes. Will replace with a large margin.
            1. 0
              11 July 2023 15: 01
              Will he be able to use rocket weapons in such a storm? Landing a helicopter with seven points? Who told you such nonsense? Read less fairy tales from Tom Clancy)))
              1. MSN
                0
                12 September 2023 14: 08
                25 m/s - limitation on the start of the TR. One of. Still Soviet, but controlled. Decide for yourself whether it is possible or not. As for Tom Clancy, compared to you, he is simply a storehouse of military knowledge. Here are some more tales about helicopters landing in rough weather. This thing was developed a long time ago, although in another country, but it will be useful for you. http://commi.narod.ru/txt/1994/1206.htm
                1. 0
                  2 December 2023 22: 38
                  Tom Clancy is simply a treasure trove of fairy tales, in comparison with which H. - H. Andersen is a pathetic amateur)))