Anti-tank MLRS: an effective way to destroy enemy tanks in Ukraine

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Anti-tank MLRS: an effective way to destroy enemy tanks in Ukraine


300 mm


What is the best NATO tank? That's right, burned out. And what is the best NATO tank from the burnt ones? Blazing at a distance of several kilometers from the advanced Russian units. Preferably out of line of sight. All the talk about the defeat of "Leopards" and "Challengers" from ATGMs and grenade launchers suggests that NATO Tanks they plan to let them in at a distance of a couple of kilometers, several hundred and even tens of meters. Theoretically, this means that armored vehicles will go through the stage of operational deployment into combat formations with impunity. Meanwhile, it is here that the Anglo-German-American menagerie must be beaten before the tanks have time to show their fighting qualities on the battlefield.



Cruise and operational-tactical missiles are used against well-explored targets in the strategic depth of the enemy's defense. For example, the famous Iskander-M can be equipped with a wide range of cluster warheads, including HEAT submunitions. Several dozens of such "gifts from heaven" are capable of taking to the other world more than a company of well-placed tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There are just a few restrictions here.

Firstly, in the second year of the special operation, the Ukrainian military has long understood all the delights of the mass accumulation of armored vehicles and will disperse the tanks.

Secondly, it is extremely difficult to detect even a large mass of equipment several hundred kilometers from the front line. Yes, and the missiles of the Iskander complex are expensive for mass anti-tank use.


MLRS "Smerch". Source: enewz.ru

Excluding the above weapons system, the most versatile and powerful anti-tank chariot is the Smerch MLRS of all variants and designs. A 300-mm rocket, even with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead, is quite enough to destroy any tank, both NATO and Soviet. Only it is necessary to lay shells with 95 kilograms of explosives in the immediate vicinity of the armored vehicle. Much more effective are 9M55K1 cluster munitions equipped with Motiv-3M self-guided munitions.


Rocket projectile 9M55K1

Each submunition carries a projectile-forming charge weighing 4,5 kg - this is a classic shock core, especially dangerous for the upper projections of armored vehicles. The infrared guidance system corrects the descent of each "Motive-3M" on a parachute and orients the ammunition to the target. Undermining can be carried out at a distance of up to 150 meters - armor penetration of at least 70 mm. As an option, 9N268 homing submunitions can be placed in the projectile, which favorably differ in greater armor penetration - up to 100 mm.

The shock core is more effective than the cumulative pestle with a much larger over-the-barrier effect on the target. Each Smerch projectile carries five anti-tank ammunition, that is, 60 Motives or 9N268 are hidden in one package of guides. Let's allow ourselves a little optimism - in this case, there are almost one and a half shock cores for every Ukrainian Leopard. The maximum firing range of the 9M55K1 product is 70 km.


Missile 9М55К7

The 9M55K7 rocket projectile, also included in the Smerch ammunition, is even more perfect - it immediately has twenty small-sized self-aiming anti-tank ammunition, each of which pierces up to 70 mm of homogeneous armor.

Theoretically, 300-mm 9M55K5 rockets with cumulative fragmentation elements can be dangerous for a tank. The head of the ammunition is placed 616 miniature submunitions with 35 grams of explosives each. Such freely dissipating elements can only be dangerous for the cover of the engine compartment, or if they accidentally fly into an open hatch.


Mina PTM-3. Source: vpk.name

For "operational remote setting of anti-tank minefields, both in front of enemy military equipment units located at the line of attack, and in the area of ​​\u9b\u55btheir concentration," 4M25K3 rockets are intended. XNUMX PTM-XNUMX mines are hidden in each ammunition, capable of penetrating both the bottom of the tank and interrupting the caterpillar. The product is equipped with a magnetic target sensor that reacts to large masses of steel - tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

According to the operating instructions, the striking element formed during the explosion pierces the bottom of the car. If you run into the PTM-3 with a wheel or a caterpillar, then the mine will work like a high-explosive charge - the wheel will tear off, the caterpillar will be killed. It is noteworthy that a mine can only be neutralized by destruction - any movement will cause a reaction of the Earth's magnetic field sensor.


Cassette block KPTM-4 with two mines PTM-4. Source: imp-navigator.livejournal.com


A pair of PTM-4s in Syria. Devices for orientation of mines in flight are visible. Allegedly, they were dropped with cluster bombs. Source: diana-mihailova.livejournal.com

In the 1990s, the PTM-4 mine appeared in service. It is almost two kilograms lighter than its predecessor, but no less lethal. The mine is equipped with a special orienting device-case, which lands the product with a cumulative trough-shaped chute up. Already on the ground, the covers are fired. Mina compares favorably with a minimal unmasking silhouette. The principle of operation of the mine is similar to the PTM-3 - an electromagnetic sensor pierces the bottom of an armored vehicle or cuts a caterpillar. On the armor, the product leaves a through hole with a diameter of 30 mm or more and forms a mass of armor fragments.

220 mm


Next in the rankings is the 220-mm Uragan system, which is devoid of specific anti-tank ammunition for attack from above. Only work as a long-range minelayer. The Hurricane uses 9M27K2 remote mining ammunition, equipped with two dozen anti-tank engineering ammunition. These are PTM1-G products weighing 1,6 kg, made of polyethylene, and they belong to anti-track mines. More than a kilogram of explosives can immobilize any armored vehicle. Usually, such gifts are promptly thrown into the areas of the alleged advancement of enemy equipment - the self-destruction time is no more than 40 hours.


MLRS "Hurricane". Source: zr.ru

Also, two terms have to wait before the elimination of the PTM-3 mine. The device does not imply the removal of a mine - only destruction. Better under the wheels of the enemy. Interestingly, in the operating instructions it is forbidden to eliminate mines with an overhead charge until 80 hours have elapsed from the moment of platooning. If you really feel like it, then you can shoot from a machine gun. The PTM1-G detonator is triggered by the deformation of the polyethylene case and the plastic explosive inside the mine. The Hurricane can operate mine-laden 9M27K2 projectiles at a maximum range of up to 34 km, but the operating distance varies from 7,5 to 23 km. With one gulp, the system makes about 150 hectares of territory impassable for any equipment.


Mine model PTM1G. Source: guns.allzip.org

PTM1-G are not the only anti-tank mines that can be loaded with Uragan MLRS shells. The 220-mm 9M29 remote mining ammunition carries nine PTM-3 electromagnetic mines, which were discussed above. This is where the specific anti-tank capabilities of the Hurricane end, except that you can hit with a volley of thermobaric 9M51 Quarantine.

Such a tank can be set on fire, and a hot shock wave flowing through open hatches will do a lot of harm to the crew. In this case, the MLRS works as a long-range analogue of the TOS-1 system. Smerch has an even more powerful 9M55S thermobaric ammunition - when it hits the target, a section of a thermal field with a diameter of 25 meters is formed. The temperature rises to 1 degrees. The tank, if it does not roll over, will burn for sure.

122 mm


Continuing the discussion of the topic of anti-tank capabilities of the MLRS, let's move on to the younger models - the Grad and Tornado-G vehicles. Here we have the fruits of unification with the older models of the line of domestic multiple rocket launchers. 122-mm shells can scatter anti-tank mines across the fields, and bombard the enemy with cumulative free-falling elements, and bring down self-aiming impact cores.


"Grad-1". Source: wikipedia.org


Shell 9M218


Shell 9M217

Sufficiently compact and mobile MLRS based on tactical trucks "Ural" and "KamAZ" are well sharpened to fight against enemy tanks. Do not forget that there are still a lot of Grad-1 vehicles on the ZIL-131 platform (36 guides) and Grad-V with a dozen guides based on the GAZ-66 in warehouses for long-term storage. The maximum ammunition range of 30 km makes the systems formidable enemies of armored vehicles.

It’s worth starting with the 9M217 projectile with the two mentioned homing “Motives” inside. For light armored vehicles, the 9M218 is more suitable - a reduced copy of a heavy 300-mm projectile with cumulative fragmentation submunitions. There are 616 of these hidden in the Smerch ammunition alone, and 45 are provided for the Grad projectile. Three PTM-3 electromagnetic mines are hidden in the body of the 9M28K remote mining projectile.

The realities of a special operation dictate special ways to deal with enemy armored vehicles.

On the one hand, aviation cannot enter the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and work on tanks with ATGMs and cumulative bombs. More precisely, maybe, but then Russia will not have a videoconferencing system in a matter of months.

On the other hand, it is impossible to let NATO tanks into the effective range of ATGMs and grenade launchers - losses among anti-tankers will be inevitable and considerable. At ranges from 3 to 70 km, the Russian army has a whole arsenal of anti-tank equipment, and MLRS with cluster shells are in the forefront here.
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  1. +19
    April 21 2023 05: 54
    Yes, that is, to beat with something and to beat from afar. About reconnaissance and efficiency of target designation, things are slowing down.
    1. 0
      April 21 2023 10: 13
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Yes, that is, to beat with something and to beat from afar. About reconnaissance and efficiency of target designation, things are slowing down.

      It's like that. There is something to beat, now I would know where. But here there are nuances. How long will there be reliable information about the whereabouts of equipment, how quickly ours will react to reconnaissance. information. And most importantly, how much it will be concentrated in one place, all I saw was 2-3 units, and this is not the goal for the package. It turns out that only at the battle line there is more or less concentration.
      1. +1
        April 21 2023 18: 22
        2-3 pieces of equipment and what a PURPOSE for the package! Even for the "packages" division!
      2. 0
        April 21 2023 21: 17
        Quote: qqqq
        How long will there be reliable information about the whereabouts of equipment, how quickly ours will react to reconnaissance. information.

        To do this, it is necessary to optimize the transfer of information from vertical to horizontal. So that the artillery commander does not wait until the intelligence data reaches the generals and back with the order, but has the right to make a decision on the spot, receiving information directly from the drone operator or the RDG commander.
        All modern armies try to minimize the time of the "fire cycle" to the minimum possible, the ideal is an instantaneous reaction. And the importance of such modernization can hardly be overestimated.
    2. +2
      April 21 2023 12: 17
      About reconnaissance and efficiency of target designation, things are slowing down.

      This nuance the author, either out of ignorance, or deliberately "lowered". All the "methods" described in the article can be effective only if two conditions are met. The first APU groups armored vehicles in dense columns. Secondly, the routes of movement of these columns are known in real time. Otherwise, all the power will go "into the white world, like a pretty penny" in the hope of "maybe".
    3. +1
      April 21 2023 12: 58
      The main thing is that Zelensky does not decide to climb on the tank, otherwise the birds, and the MLRS, and even cartridges with sapper shovels will suddenly disappear immediately
      1. 0
        April 28 2023 21: 04
        now at the training ground near Kuev = kuevo the number of armored vehicles. To any
        cram such mines. From Belarus to Kuev 300 km. Even closer to the landfill. The MIGar will rush in a circle to the drop distance in 7-10 minutes.
  2. +7
    April 21 2023 05: 55
    —-Thanks to the author for an interesting, detailed, generously illustrated review !!

    ---It is interesting to hear from colleagues about the effectiveness of MLRS in the fight against tanks, armor and vehicles, the probability of destruction and methods for testing MLRS against tanks ...
    1. 0
      April 25 2023 13: 54
      Efficiency is close to zero. By themselves, the "motives" are useless, and besides everything else, the whole concept will work only with great luck. It is much more useful to use conventional RS against typical targets. And no one in the army will bother with special ammunition, with an extremely controversial outcome.
  3. +2
    April 21 2023 05: 56
    to younger models - machines "Grad" and "Tornado-G

    And here is the Zil-131 Base in the photo. I last repaired these in the late 90s. All. They are finished. But it was a great car. Lied. The last time I assembled ZIL-131 was in 2004.
    1. +8
      April 21 2023 14: 29
      Extreme, as tired, you can write in Russian
      Or write when you last went to the toilet
      1. +2
        April 21 2023 21: 47
        All pilots and fear as superstitious laughing "" "
      2. +1
        April 24 2023 08: 55
        Quote: Citatelle 2013
        Extreme, as tired, you can write in Russian

        To make remarks about "Russian" to someone, you should probably first learn to speak, read and write in Russian, and not "in Russian." No?
    2. +1
      April 21 2023 14: 33
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      to younger models - machines "Grad" and "Tornado-G

      And here is the Zil-131 Base in the photo. I last repaired these in the late 90s. All. They are finished. But it was a great car. Lied. The last time I assembled ZIL-131 was in 2004.

      Zil-131 respect and adore)))
      and about the fact that they "run out" ... open Avito or the author and buy in any commodity quantities, some are still in a state of complete conservation good hi
      1. -1
        April 21 2023 14: 53
        Yeah, I love it, a huge car, and the cabin was designed for midgets
        1. 0
          April 21 2023 18: 38
          Quote: Citelle 2013
          Yeah, I love it, a huge car, and the cabin was designed for midgets

          I do not know lol even such a tall meter ninety like me feels normal driving a zil-131 feel fellow you probably didn’t sit in a loaf))))))))))))
          1. +5
            April 21 2023 19: 38
            I rode everything Ural zil loaf and 66, 195 height, really disgusting cars in terms of ergonomics, well, yes, I'm long, but I know how to drive cars))
            And the cars are wretched, ZIL is still normal, but why in the huge Urals there is a cabin for dwarfs, I don’t understand
  4. Aag
    +4
    April 21 2023 05: 57
    "... The principle of operation of the mine is similar to the PTM-3 - an electromagnetic sensor pierces the bottom of an armored vehicle or cuts a caterpillar..."
    Is the sensor broken?
    1. +3
      April 21 2023 06: 33
      And then the main charge is triggered lol
    2. +4
      April 21 2023 07: 56
      Quote: AAG
      ..The principle of operation of the mine is similar to the PTM-3 - an electromagnetic sensor pierces the bottom of an armored vehicle or cuts a caterpillar ... "
      Is the sensor broken?

      I, too, was delighted with the knowledge of the author, who not only possesses "secret knowledge", but is also not too lazy to set the brains of people who are mired in stereotyped truths! But this is not the only "pearl"! There are others! For example: 1. PTM-3 electromagnetic mines ... 2. A shock core is more effective than a cumulative pestle ... 3. 9M217 with two mentioned homing "Motives" ... 4. homing submunitions 9N268, 5.9M55K1, equipped with homing products "Motiv-3M" 5. the striking element formed during the explosion pierces the bottom of the vehicle. (PTM-3!)...6. The infrared guidance system corrects the descent of each "Motive-3M" on a parachute and orients the ammunition to the target.
      Maybe such a heresy .... that is, "pearls" in the article and more, but I did not "read" (!) ... I had enough of what I saw during the initial viewing! What surprised? I don’t remember that Fedorov had “surprised” like that before! Well, there was no "negative sediment" left in my memory! It remains to be assumed that Zhenechka scribbled a "material" from the Internet immediately after the celebration ... well, for example, a birthday ... of his own, relatives and friends, or a neighbor! And the holiday was a success! This is evidenced by the fact that the "anti-tanker" Fedorov entrusted the fight against tanks entirely to the MLRS !! (Well, in what other state could it have "reached" before!?)
  5. +4
    April 21 2023 05: 57
    This article would be yes to our generals "in the ears." This ammunition is also perfect against the "jihad carts", with the help of which in September 22 they "frolic" in the Kharkov region and somewhere else.
    1. +10
      April 21 2023 10: 46
      Quote: Amateur
      This article would be yes to our generals "in the ears." This ammunition is also perfect against the "jihad carts", with the help of which in September 22 they "frolic" in the Kharkov region and somewhere else.

      To begin with, pour it into the ears of Ukrainians so that they group their carts and leave them motionless in an open area. Then you can use MLRS.
      But they do not want to group equipment, move, spend the night in shelters. They fight dishonestly with one word. You must tell them that this is not possible. And only then to our generals with valuable advice.
  6. +7
    April 21 2023 06: 01
    The fact that the author described all this could have been avoided by destroying enemy communications ... bridges, highways, transshipment points, fuel depots, ammunition, spare parts, etc.
    Now that the tanks and everything they need have been safely delivered to the front, we will have to wage grueling battles to destroy them, increasing the term of the SVO for an indefinite period.
    The war has taken its toll.
    Now it is difficult to predict how, where, how much, by what means NATO tanks will be destroyed...time will tell.
  7. +3
    April 21 2023 06: 25
    The fact of the matter is that there is ammunition, but here's where ... There were reports from near Kherson that summer that were simply lethal, where "the enemy attacked positions with forces of up to 250 pieces of equipment" ...
    And all that remained was to swear in surprise - how is it in general? And then they showed footage from a drone, where, according to the discovered equipment, scratching in two columns ... Yes, it doesn’t even seem like a battery full of cannon artillery was working there, and in terms of caliber something more resembled a D-30 maximum ... Where there were at least hail, in this mess, those who knocked out would be guaranteed at least everything that is not a tank is a mystery.
    That's the point. They’ll definitely stop one ATGM, the main thing is to have something to stop at least 3-4 from 10-20 AFVs - even if not armored personnel carriers, but even buses like Saxons
  8. +1
    April 21 2023 07: 00
    What else is the problem? Our glorious generals do not know what weapons they can fight with. ATGMs, tanks, MLRS are simple, they still know, but for smart cunning ammunition, bare zero. The situation is the same for aviation ammunition, UAVs. Just yesterday, it was necessary to use AI, which would include the entire list of weapons and which would instantly tell you where and with what to hit the enemy.
    NATO makes full use of this, plus it also invests economic sanctions.
    It seems that headquarters like Chapaev lay out potatoes on the map and think what to do. soldier
    1. +2
      April 21 2023 15: 59
      Quote: V.
      What else is the problem? Our glorious generals do not know what weapons they can fight with. ATGMs, tanks, MLRS are simple, they still know, but for smart cunning ammunition, bare zero.

      Judging by Murza, senior officers also have problems with knowledge of MLRS. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the use of 122-mm RS for work on fortifications.
      The Russian military generally has completely magical ideas about the effect of artillery ammunition. This is clearly illustrated by photographs of the 29th checkpoint, the trenches of which are surrounded not so much by artillery shell craters as by traces of Gradin. What can be said about the effectiveness of the MLRS for fortifications? Even according to the usual tree-earth, just built right? Not even counting the concrete pillboxes and underground shelters. SHE IS NOT, this efficiency, BM-21 is NOT FOR THIS. YES, the picture at the time of the shot is gorgeous. The hit picture is great. Kaboom-kaboom-kaboom-kaboom!
      And?
      From the dugouts, "fox holes" and other shelters, slightly deafened, but completely combat-ready enemy infantry gets out and stands up to the machine guns. Fighting and evil. And radio, by the way. That is, even if their infantry has broken the wire connection with these “Grads”, it will still perfectly call on the attackers the full power of its artillery. And, when the command “Go, there’s no one there!” our infantry will go there, first a couple of packages of “Grads” will fly into the field in front of enemy positions, and then mortars will start working. And the “Grads” will safely slip away from the “response”, and no one will really suppress the mortars, they will work, then the calculations will converge, and then they will drag the pipes to new positions.
      © Murz
  9. +6
    April 21 2023 07: 04
    Strange! And where was this ammunition when, strangely, the front was "levelled" last year? Bandera's "carts" frolicked heartily, and with these ammunition, after all, they could thin them out well! In the article, they devoted a lot of time to tanks, but the Bandera people have the main striking force of the "cart", all sorts of different armored vehicles, and there are critically few tanks, mostly junk! And today, I am absolutely sure that our installations with cluster munitions are on the possible directions of strikes! Because I hope it has dawned on some that the Bandera people are not "brothers" to us.
  10. +3
    April 21 2023 07: 34
    Near Ilovaisk, such ammunition was used, a lot of equipment was burned, there are memories from that side. In the NWO zone, it’s somehow not audible. If there is a mass offensive, then first remote mining in front of the advancing equipment, then shoot with rockets with submunitions. The rest to finish off from helicopters. Lots of tools, of course.
  11. +8
    April 21 2023 08: 46
    Intelligence, target designation, communications are the root of the problem, our aircraft have the rest.
    1. +2
      April 21 2023 13: 49
      Intelligence, target designation, communications are the root of the problem, our aircraft have the rest.

      I would also add efficiency and accuracy. Without all this, the effect of all these sub-munitions is cumulative zero. These are ammunition for Smart Wars, where everything is clear, operational and accurate.
      We are very lucky that the GMLRS guided missile family does not have such ammunition. It is scary to imagine what would have happened to those columns near Ugledar if they had been worked on with similar ammunition with induced blocks and accuracy as GMLRS. I think they didn’t do anything like this in the USA because they didn’t think that in the wars of the 21st century someone in their right mind would be so crowded with equipment. But our Generals, I think, convinced them of the opposite and such ammunition will definitely appear in the future hi
      1. +1
        April 21 2023 16: 18
        Quote: spirit
        I would also add efficiency and accuracy.

        It is tied to communication and target designation. If the data about the detected target is sent upwards at the speed of the Russian Post, then the control center is slowly issued (which descends to the performers at the same speed), then there is no need to dream of any efficiency.
        Quote: spirit
        I think they didn’t do anything like this in the USA, because they didn’t think that in the wars of the 21st century someone in their right mind would be so crowded with equipment

        In the USA, they just made cassette PCs - there were even adjustable M30s. It's just that in the new century, the Yankees did not count on wars using large masses of equipment. In the unipolar world of the complete hegemony of the hegemon, war was understood exclusively smoking zusuls. And where did the Zusuls get armored vehicles in commercial quantities? wink
        So the M30 cassettes went into alteration for monoblock warheads.
        1. +2
          April 21 2023 20: 19
          Quote: Alexey RA
          In the unipolar world of complete hegemony of the hegemon, war was understood exclusively as the smoking of the Zusuls. And where did the Zusuls get armored vehicles in commercial quantities?

          Just militarily backward countries like to massage Soviet equipment of the 60s and 70s, and these Zulus of yours like to lie down behind a mound with PKM or dig a hundred kilograms of explosives on the road.

          The Zulu option for Americans is much less convenient.
          1. 0
            April 24 2023 10: 25
            no one has ever heard of something about the military successes of the Zumvolt. and at one time the super-duper most modern f117 was shot down by the "primitive" S-75. how is that?
  12. BAI
    +2
    April 21 2023 09: 21
    And for some reason it seems to me that all this equipment will not be in the direction of the main attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And they will shoot point-blank from a distance of several tens of meters
  13. 0
    April 21 2023 10: 23
    Aviation cluster NARs with cumulative submunitions with a range of up to 10 km would be very effective! Contrary to criticism about "flying MLRS", aviation NARs, thanks to the aiming equipment, are quite accurate when firing at areas. It's one thing to hit the trenches with HE NARs, another thing for an armored group with cluster munitions.
    1. +1
      April 21 2023 12: 42
      Quote: Alexander
      Aviation cluster NARs with cumulative submunitions with a range of up to 10 km would be very effective!

      I highly doubt the effectiveness of "cassette NARs"! It is better to use more effective guided weapons!
      1. 0
        April 24 2023 10: 23
        It is better to use more effective guided weapons!

        of course better. only now the cost of a controlled one is several times, or even an order of magnitude higher. it is impractical to shoot the Iskander at a target that the RPG-7V can handle. do not find?
  14. -2
    April 21 2023 12: 11
    Article, finished chatter.
    The author is serious for the sake of it, and such crap has turned out.
    1. 0
      April 24 2023 10: 21
      read skomoromkhov and you will be happy bully
  15. +2
    April 21 2023 13: 00
    Best of all, the orions should cope with tank raids, which will soon be riveting in three shifts for like a year. Unless, of course, they rivet and they are allowed to use
  16. +4
    April 21 2023 13: 27
    These shells are useful. But the problem is that we have not learned how to use MLRS as quickly as possible. Barrel artillery and tactical missile systems adapted to work quickly. The group discovered the enemy, handed over his battery cardinats. They aimed at the square and fired a volley.
    But the MLRS was still advanced to the point it was necessary (due to the limitations of the range of the projectiles). In the meantime, they will drive up - the enemy may already be in another place. And in combination with the fact that the enemy began to disperse tanks, they will be extremely nimble and mobile.

    Why not use the tactics of "pumping" batteries?
    Batteries responsible for their area will consist of 2-4 MLRS vehicles that operate at a distance from each other. Each MLRS vehicle was assigned a small team of motorized riflemen for cover. This is how we form the groups that make up the battery. We disperse groups around the area at a distance of kilometers from each other. The groups are far apart, but act as a single battery. All groups advance to their positions according to the plan. The positions themselves are not permanent. According to the plan of each group, they are indicated the number of hours they are on combat duty at a given point, after which they must change it to another according to the plan. The change of positions is scheduled so that it would never happen that more than 2 cars would change positions at the same time. When the infantry / reconnaissance report about the discovery of the enemy in such and such a square. The group closest to the enemy makes a volley after which, without waiting for a response, it immediately changes its position to the next point. And the group that is second closest to the enemy takes over and waits for the intelligence order to make a second salvo at the enemy if there was a first miss or the enemy did not receive significant damage. In case of detection of one of the battery groups, or attack on it. All other groups of the battery, in order of separation of teams, in turn, change positions to reserve ones.
    And they all operate within the same area so that they can respond to fire support calls as quickly as possible, but at the same time, due to the constant movement of the enemy, the task of detecting both the batteries themselves and their destruction becomes more difficult. Because by the time the fire arrives, our group will have already left this point, and they will need to search again.
    1. +1
      April 22 2023 00: 50
      "Why not use the tactics of" pumping "batteries?" What you described should work within the framework of a military unit and not in the form of some MLRS groups attached to ... infantry. And here the nuances begin. If this is an artillery division of a regiment or brigade, this is one wedding, if an artillery regiment of a division, then another, and if an artillery formation is part of a corps or army, then it is completely different. It is necessary to create RUK - reconnaissance strike complexes - interspecific units that stand outside the standard army structure and apparently have subordination not lower than the army level. I don't know how to deal with this. I don't think so. Within the framework of the existing army structure, it is difficult to imagine effective RUKs.
    2. 0
      April 24 2023 10: 20
      And where did you get the idea that this does not apply? because there are no articles? unreasonably.
      remember the "tank carousel" in the SAR. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is not obliged to report to the townsfolk.
  17. 0
    April 21 2023 15: 13
    It is necessary to bring together reconnaissance, target designation and means of destruction into a single one. Hand it over to one hand. Let different departments but the task is the same and then there will be someone to ask.
    1. 0
      April 24 2023 10: 18
      it will be too clumsy. and so every commander from the regiment and above has at his disposal the necessary tools.
  18. -1
    April 21 2023 23: 56
    Thanks to the author for the review. Informative, concise, without "Komarokov's" sobs ...
  19. -1
    April 22 2023 00: 39
    Good article. Calm and balanced. I hope that enough ammunition of this type is produced by the industry and gunners are trained in their proper use. And also that the Pacers will finally work effectively as the eyes of our MLRS to a depth of at least 50 km from the LBS.
  20. 0
    April 22 2023 06: 18
    No known use of these agents.
    Neither on our side nor on the enemy's side.
    Except of course mining
  21. 0
    April 22 2023 20: 09
    In addition to the widely discussed issue of target designation, there is another equally important one - how many of these advanced ammunition are available?
    So the T-14 should perfectly cope with the Leopards wink
  22. 0
    April 24 2023 10: 11
    normal article. without hatred and without clownish data from the OBS agents and pseudo-information sucked out of the toes, with which individual figures of the pen and the ax sin.
    walk away! laughing good
  23. -1
    April 24 2023 20: 32
    It is much more efficient to bring the Hermes / Peck system (third-generation ATGM) to mind. This system allows you to fire a rocket with a booster (upper stage) from pipes, providing a range of up to 100 km. Plus, it is universal, you can shoot both from the ground and from the air (Ka52).

    An even better option is with a UAV as a detachable unit. On Tornado, something like this is being developed, only for reconnaissance. purposes. But you can also strike. The complex will be similar to the GLSDB launched from Hymers. But much more efficient. The booster will first accelerate the UAV to a certain speed and height, then the UAV will separate and glide on folding wings for some time, after which its electric motor (propeller / impeller) will turn on and the UAV will begin loitering, looking for a target. The range of such a complex can easily be about 200 km. Dimensions may be different, depending on the mass of the UAV, its purpose. The heaviest and long-range - 300 mm, can be launched by Tornado; 220 mm - from Hurricane; you can experiment with the Grad, but there the impact power will be comparable to a maximum of a 76 mm spear, but it will be cheaper and more massive.
  24. 0
    April 25 2023 23: 55
    It remains to add to all this timely satellite, aviation and ground reconnaissance, with high-quality target designation, and that will be what the author writes about.
  25. +1
    April 27 2023 11: 15
    The problem is intelligence and its relevance over time. And everything is as always: - "everything is new, it's a well-forgotten old". You can't rivet satellites in a "month", I generally keep quiet about carriers. But who is stopping you from hanging a gyro-stabilized platform under a tethered (over our territory) stratospheric balloon?
    No one wants to calculate the visibility of the territory from a height of 1 - 10 km.? And from a height of 20 km. With good optics and 10 such balloons spaced along the border with the Outskirts, it can be viewed 24/7 in real time. If the "great and terrible Ukrainians" shoot down the stratostat, the optical platform can be lowered by parachute and reused.
  26. 0
    21 May 2023 14: 33
    Everything in the article is beautiful and everything is wonderful. However, it must be said right away that the armored formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are transported and grouped in the areas of transport routes: railways and highways to deliver them to the places of hostilities. Here, first of all, it is necessary to track and destroy enemy tanks. Combat operations in the NMD showed the highest efficiency of flamethrowers and thermobaric charges for them. Here they are primarily to be used against enemy tanks. It is necessary not to hit each enemy tank individually, but to set them on fire in bulk, in extreme cases, setting fire to each tank individually is much more effective than hitting tanks with armor-piercing warheads. It is also necessary to equip guided bombs with incendiary warheads. Bandera is horrified by the use of flamethrowers and incendiary charges by Russians!!!
  27. -1
    1 June 2023 20: 17
    Quote from: QuestionsNeudobny
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is not obliged to report to the townsfolk.

    And how do you order to preim? "Eat what they give, byd ... electorate?" Or how?
  28. 0
    14 September 2023 22: 35
    For such attacks, accumulations of equipment are needed, which, as is clear in the operational situation, do not exist.