"Hello" from KB "Oko" - it is possible that the Russian UAV storm begins today

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"Hello" from KB "Oko" - it is possible that the Russian UAV storm begins today

Perhaps, it was the conflict between Russia and NATO countries on the territory of Ukraine that in many ways showed how important unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are for the successful conduct of hostilities and what a huge role they will play in the future. Yes, more recently, a lot was said about UAVs during the period of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, but the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs that distinguished themselves in it in Ukraine showed themselves far from being so good - the high effectiveness of the air defense systems (air defense) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) ).

What areas of UAV development will receive priority development in the future?



It can be assumed that they will develop high-altitude and medium-altitude reconnaissance UAVs, as well as their promising subspecies - stratospheric UAVs. A new type of weapons that has not yet been tested in real conditions are slave UAVs capable of operating in conjunction with manned combat aircraft, both against ground and against air targets. All these are complex, high-tech and expensive products.

At the forefront, small-sized UAVs will be used in ever-increasing numbers, providing tactical reconnaissance, target designation and fire adjustment. The fight against small-sized UAVs will become one of the most important tasks on the battlefield, which will be solved, including with the help of the same small-sized drones.


The sizes of existing and prospective UAVs vary from a few centimeters to tens of meters.

Kamikaze UAVs should be singled out as a separate category, since they are expected to have the greatest impact on the nature of future military conflicts. Videos of the defeat of armored vehicles, rocket and artillery installations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU) with the help of Russian Lancet UAVs regularly appear on the Internet.


Destruction of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the help of UAV-kamikaze "Lancet"


The Chinese approach is something like a multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) firing kamikaze UAVs


If, however, to produce kamikaze UAVs in the format of the so-called FPV-drones (First Person View - first-person view), which are relatively inexpensive, they can become the main means of defeating ground targets (and possibly air targets) on the front line - it will be extremely difficult to defend against small-sized kamikaze UAVs, if at all possible.

But an even greater impact on the battlefield can be made by kamikaze UAVs, which have a long range, are partly the equivalent of a cruise missile, but cost an order of magnitude or two less. The lower cost will allow them to be produced in hundreds of thousands, and even millions a year. Previously, we have already considered the methods and consequences of the production of long-range kamikaze UAVs in quantities that make their use comparable in effectiveness to the use of tactical nuclear weapons. weapons, in materials Project Condor: death from heaven и UAV storm rises.

However, theoretical research is good, but can it be put into practice? In the USA and China, most likely, yes - they have a fairly developed industry and significant financial resources, but is it possible to produce hundreds of thousands of kamikaze UAVs in Russia? It seems that the contours of the answer are gradually beginning to emerge.

KB "Oko"


Design Bureau (KB) "Oko" is a small company from St. Petersburg. Based on the information posted on the telegram channel of KB Oko, its staff is only ten people. Although the company was founded in 2022, its achievements at the beginning of 2023 are impressive, even more impressive are the announced plans of KB Oko.


Image (logo?) from the website of KB "Oko"

The specialization of the company declared on the website is ultra-cheap multifunctional unmanned aerial vehicles aimed at solving the tasks of volunteer battalions and PMCs. As we can see, the Oko design bureau does not set itself the task of supplying the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which is not surprising, since compliance with all the requirements in terms of various GOSTs, the need for military acceptance, compliance with the secrecy regime, and so on and so forth, will immediately put an end to all undertakings - a small team with limited funding just can't do it.

Also from the website of KB "Oko":

“We believe that the modern world makes it possible to produce high-tech devices based on standard manufacturing solutions. Translating into Russian, we strive to create devices “from a household store” at the price of large household appliances.”

So.

At the moment, only the use of widely available civilian components can make complex high-tech products cheap, and it doesn’t matter from which branch of human activity these same components will have to be borrowed - building materials, sanitary ware, Christmas decorations, hair curlers, children's cars or something else - the main thing is that it is suitable for solving the task, stably produced in a large series and relatively cheap (not at the expense of quality).

At the moment, Oko Design Bureau is openly talking about several major projects - the kamikaze UAV "Privet-82" and the kamikaze UAV "Privet-120".

UAV-kamikaze "Privet-82"


"Privet-82" is an aircraft-type kamikaze UAV with an electric motor. Its flight range is about 30 kilometers with a payload of up to 5,5 kilograms, which allows you to carry an 82 mm mortar mine as a warhead (it’s clear where the name “Hi-82” came from). The takeoff of the Hi-82 kamikaze UAV is carried out from a catapult, cruising speed in flight is 90 kilometers per hour, in a dive on a target - 160 kilometers per hour.


3D-model of UAV-kamikaze "Privet-82"


Mortar mine caliber 82 mm - warhead UAV-kamikaze "Privet-82"

UAV-kamikaze "Privet-82" can be aimed at the target using the coordinates of the global navigation satellite systems GLONASS / GPS and / or by the operator manually, with electronic flight stabilization, frequencies of 915 MHz / 2,4 GHz are used for control and 1,2 GHz / 5,8 .15 GHz for video signal transmission, at a distance of up to three kilometers in line of sight and up to XNUMX kilometers when using a repeater.

A preliminary exit to the target can be carried out by GLONASS / GPS signals in radio silence mode, followed by the operator pointing exactly at the target, which makes it possible to retarget the UAV in the final flight segment and hit mobile targets.


Pre-production copies of the Hi-82 kamikaze UAV - takeoff from a catapult

Several dozen pre-production copies of the Hi-82 kamikaze UAV have already been produced, which in the near future should undergo (or may already be undergoing) testing in the NVO zone in the interests of an unnamed customer.

The estimated cost of the Hi-82 UAV is about 110 rubles.

UAV-kamikaze "Privet-120"


"Privet-120" is an ultra-cheap cruise missile - an aircraft-type kamikaze UAV based on an internal combustion engine (ICE), or more precisely, an engine for agricultural machinery that makes the same “flowery” sound in flight that the management loved so much Ukraine.


3D-model of UAV-kamikaze "Privet-120"

The 5 horsepower gasoline engine, originally designed for agricultural vehicles, provides a flight range of up to 250 kilometers with a payload of up to 16 kilograms and a flight speed of about 100 kilometers per hour. The launch is carried out by aircraft from the site.

In fact, this is the same “cruise missile for the price of a washing machine”, as the developer says, its price should be about 300 rubles.


Pre-production copies of the Hi-120 kamikaze UAV

UAV-kamikaze "Hi-mini S"


"Hi-mini S" is one of the prototypes that gradually turned into a separate project of a small kamikaze UAV with a flight range of up to 2 kilometers at speeds up to 120 kilometers per hour, with a payload of 1 kilogram. UAV-kamikaze "Hi-mini S" is controlled by the operator using FPV guidance, launched from the hand. It can be used to defeat snipers, machine gun crews and other firing points, as well as enemy manpower and other unprotected targets.


UAV-kamikaze "Hi-mini S"

A version with a carrying capacity of 2 kilograms is being developed, capable of carrying a shot from a hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher (RPG) as a warhead - such a drone will already be able to hit armored vehicles in vulnerable projections, partially replacing anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs).

Technologies and features


The main criterion for the creation of the UAV-kamikaze of KB "Oko" is to minimize the cost of the final product, which will ensure high serial production. The company declares its readiness to produce 100 kamikaze UAVs per day, that is, 36 kamikaze UAVs per year.

The need to minimize the cost leads to the fact that the products of KB "Oko" resemble the products of an aircraft modeling circle. However, all this does not matter - the final result is important.

In addition, do not forget that products are at the very beginning of their life cycle - for example, at the development stage, prototypes are made of plywood, and in large-scale production, polymer parts made by injection molding or otherwise will be used.


Simple materials ensure fast development, large series and low cost

In addition to the development of the kamikaze UAVs themselves, Oko Design Bureau is developing various scenarios for their use, and also lays in the design some features that can significantly increase the efficiency of the use of products.

For example, the “Pickup” concept involves the launch of the “Privet-82” kamikaze UAV from the rear area, where the risk of detection and destruction of the UAV and its deployment team by the enemy before takeoff will be minimized. Then the kamikaze UAV in autonomous flight in radio silence mode according to GLONASS / GPS coordinates goes to the forward area, where it sends a prearranged signal and is “picked up” by the operator for further direct guidance to the selected target, including a moving one.


The concept of "Catch"

Thus, for units launching UAVs, the risks of being hit by the enemy are minimized, and advanced units do not need to carry heavy UAVs and ammunition for their combat units - just take control panels.

Also, Oko Design Bureau plans to add a “silent attack” mode to its products, when, before diving on the target, not only the engine is turned off, but the propeller is also fixed to prevent its rotation in autorotation mode (under the influence of an oncoming air flow). Thus, the Oko kamikaze UAVs can fall on the target absolutely silently.

Conclusions


The UAV storm is becoming more and more real. According to some reports, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have bought tens, if not hundreds of thousands of FPV drones in China and Taiwan, and are training operators by the thousands, preparing to deliver a crushing blow to Russian troops, it is possible that this could happen in the near future. In Russia, FPV drones are purchased and assembled by volunteers, they are not supplied to the RF Armed Forces, and Lancets, apparently, are not enough for everyone.

And at this time, those who are closely watching the Russian-Ukrainian conflict from the outside are already fully preparing for new formats of warfare. For example, China is already openly publishing the concept of massive kamikaze UAV strikes, and there is no doubt that it is implementing them in practice.


Chinese concept of massive use of kamikaze UAVs

There will be more and more kamikaze UAVs - over time, they will begin to fall on enemy positions like an endless rain of fire. To win this and future military conflicts, Russia urgently needs to ensure the mass production of kamikaze UAVs. If a small company of 10 people is preparing to produce 100 drones a day, how many can they produce with government support? And if the state is still not ready to invest in such projects, then maybe with the support of big business?

It is necessary to further optimize the design of the kamikaze UAV, taking into account mass production, we need appropriate funding, the absence of bureaucratic obstacles, assistance in testing, logistics, supply of UAV components, including from abroad, the maximum possible localization of the production of UAV components in Russia, it is expedient to develop robotic conveyor lines for the manufacture of drones and so on and so forth.

In addition, it is necessary to develop tactics and strategies for the massive use of kamikaze UAVs by the armed forces, since foolishly, without clear plans, you can waste even a million UAVs.

Yes, 100 kamikaze UAVs per day or 36 kamikaze UAVs per year will already have an impact on the course of hostilities, but they will not affect it radically. But 500 kamikaze UAVs a day or more will not only have an impact, but will change the course of the conflict as a whole. And it is precisely these figures that we should strive for.

And there is no doubt that these figures are quite real, there would be a desire among those who have the opportunity to influence this situation, tipping the scales in our favor.
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  1. 0
    29 March 2023 04: 00
    small company of 10 people
    Enough. The British Starstreak was developed by a team of 12 people - their photo hung at Belfast airport.
    1. +11
      29 March 2023 07: 23
      Until there is confirmed data on the mass production of UAVs, and not on the purchase and re-gluing of names on UAVs from aliexpress, I will not believe it.
      1. +11
        29 March 2023 20: 36
        On aliexpress or somewhere else, but a lot of UAVs, even tactical ones, are already a reality.
        And it is necessary not only to develop them
        mass production, but not particularly chasing cheapness, although it is very tempting. The use of many drones will inevitably cause and is already causing opposition. First of all, in terms of management, i.e. electronic warfare
        So there is evidence that even now it is necessary to launch a tactical helicopter-type drone "on a string" so that it does not fly away to the enemy and does not become his prey.
        Will it not turn out that hundreds and thousands of tactical UAVs with poorly protected control channels (cheap) will simply "go crazy" and crash to the ground when suppression systems are used?
        Those. , as always, we need an integrated approach to the development of both UAVs and means of combating them, while not forgetting the postulate "less is better."
        1. +4
          30 March 2023 00: 32
          I confirm that we use fishing line with spinning, and on both sides, mainly in detachments of several people, in larger units it’s better there, and there are jammers, mainly the interception occurs due to an open or poorly protected control communication channel with the drone, and what else to expect from civilian versions?
          1. +3
            30 March 2023 03: 25
            And the guys from "Oko" with humor!
            Company emblem
            Tower of Sauron from The Lord of the Rings by R. Tolkien.
          2. +4
            30 March 2023 11: 25

            —-Those who can- DARE AND DO.

            - Those who cannot - teach.

            —- Oversaturation of pre-drone air defenses and further destruction is a critical threat. I hope they are working on reducing this threat. Even with ChatGPT and AI analogues

            —-AI-controlled UAVs are the very singularity after which the accelerated growth of autonomous systems will accelerate exponentially. This is a threat not only in the NWO - it is a threat to humanity. We are experiencing a revolutionary moment, colleagues! And before him - a stone's throw, unfortunately ...
        2. +1
          30 March 2023 07: 39
          Well, it’s also written there, cheapness, but not at the expense of quality, we need effective UAVs that will not only be produced for the sake of quantity, but will successfully perform their tasks and hit targets with high accuracy and efficiency.
          1. +1
            30 March 2023 12: 41
            For us, jammers are first of all important, but oh, how they are not enough, as an example, at least such
            https://t.me/natsmeme/15811
  2. +28
    29 March 2023 04: 23
    If a small company of 10 people is preparing to produce 100 drones per day...

    obviously they will hire more people for such a pr-va.
    I personally liked the idea of ​​​​a UAV made of waxed cardboard, which is assembled "on the knee". The cost can be reduced by half.
    And the quickness of the APU is alarming. In general, there is less bureaucracy in Ukraine than in our country, and this is bad.
    1. SSR
      +3
      29 March 2023 21: 47
      Quote: MBRBS
      And the quickness of the APU is alarming. In general, there is less bureaucracy in Ukraine than in our country, and this is bad.

      + (((
      Hope for the vaunted electronic warfare from KRET.
      At hour X, maybe they will turn off everyone?)
    2. +2
      30 March 2023 00: 35
      And there the government, managers, maybe twenty years younger than ours, something, but quickness and creativity they do not hold
    3. -1
      April 2 2023 09: 25
      So, after all, as long as a rooster doesn’t peck in one place, no one starts moving, we constantly need a magic pendel, and maybe even a new Joseph Vissarionovich, we have relaxed too much over the past thirty years.
  3. +4
    29 March 2023 04: 41
    I repeat - I personally see these cardboard drones only in the form of firewalls. A six-liter flask with napalm (which has by no means lost its relevance) will do much more than an 82-mm mine.
    1. +8
      29 March 2023 07: 10
      in my opinion it’s a little expensive to make a kamikaze drone for 60.000 rubles with an 82mm mine, it seems that for this there are quadrocopters with grenades, vogs and other exploding things that work on entrenched infantry, which, although they cost more, can be used many times, it’s like it’s more effective for me, of course, in some cases, and this option will come in
      1. +5
        29 March 2023 09: 40
        Quote: Graz
        for this there are quadrocopters with grenades
        it is assumed that the kamikaze drone has features that are not available for a quadrocopter: fly into a window or doorway, for example. AND
      2. +2
        29 March 2023 16: 26
        Actually, for aviation, and the drone still flies, they make special aviation ammunition that is more effective per unit weight. Too bad we don't hear anything about it.
      3. 0
        April 6 2023 02: 19
        The cost of a destroyed enemy soldier in full combat gear is much higher than 60 rubles. When organizing the mass production of drones at a specially built plant, it will significantly reduce their cost.
  4. +12
    29 March 2023 04: 53
    The bad thing is that all sides will strive for this. And the prolongation of the conflict contributes to this. In a year, thousands of drones will be from the Baltic States to Kazakhstan
    1. +8
      29 March 2023 05: 51
      Quote: Tlauicol
      thousands of drones

      The war will move to the stage when it is not necessary to see the enemy in the sight of a machine gun ....
    2. +5
      29 March 2023 23: 12
      Don't you have the feeling that both sides are dragging out this war (not a small conflict, but a big war in Europe)? After all, there are no clear goals / criteria for victory either on our part (this demilitarization and denazification are just empty words, demagogy), neither on the Ukrainian side, nor on the part of NATO.
  5. +19
    29 March 2023 05: 25
    That's why the State needs to revive free circles for children where the child will create and implement their ideas. Learn to simply work with the tool. Free to teach children what will help them in life. Remember how many circles in the Union were ...
    1. -5
      29 March 2023 11: 17
      That's why you need to revive ...
      Is that a question?
      Well, here, mother, let's skip it. hi
      Write better.
      1. +6
        29 March 2023 13: 55
        Read smarter. This statement.
        1. -2
          29 March 2023 17: 47
          Why is the question. Statement - for what.
          1. -1
            29 March 2023 19: 14
            Read smarter

            And more. At least until the end of the sentences that you undertake to comment.
    2. +4
      29 March 2023 21: 25
      Remember. In the 80s in my small town there was a complete set - photography, aircraft modeling, karting, moto, radio, radio engineering + sports sections in every school. And it was wonderful, but in our time the main problem is that there is no one to teach. Now it’s not like for circles, there is a shortage of teachers in schools. And it is difficult to count on enthusiasts, as in the 80-90s.
      1. +2
        29 March 2023 22: 59
        There is a wealth of knowledge on the Internet. People will show themselves as soon as the conditions are created. The conditions come from the awareness of the need and the willingness to seek funding. In the meantime, sorry, we have capitalism and the professional growth of the slave force is the work of the needy themselves. The conditions for only survival are created, and the method is to optimize the conditions in the direction of non-survival.
        I look forward to discovering with interest how one can change one's attitude to business without revolutions.
    3. +2
      30 March 2023 09: 36
      There were no Tik Tok smartphones in the Union. In addition to the presence of circles, it is necessary to excite interest in children.
    4. 0
      April 6 2023 02: 20
      The only question is why does the bourgeois capitalist government need this, which for 32 years has been considering its country and citizens exclusively as a business project?
  6. +8
    29 March 2023 05: 34
    In general, I agree with the article, there are some technical additions:
    1. The massive use of kamikaze drones is not always effective. Directly on the LBS, the targets are quite protected and covered, and sometimes difficult to hit. Sometimes, in order to make a successful drop from a carrier drone converted in an artisanal way from a civilian, several sorties are made where a target is searched. a careless group of enemy soldiers in one trench, unattended unmasked armored vehicles with an open hatch, and so on.
    2. use within the LBS itself requires mainly shaped charge or high-explosive fragmentation charges. Application to a depth of 100 kilometers behind the front line should probably be carried out with thermal charges to inflict damage on industrial and infrastructure facilities. Considering the relatively low carrying capacity, it is impossible to achieve a significant high-explosive action, and the cumulative effect against the above objects is generally ineffective.
    1. +3
      29 March 2023 12: 53
      In the context of application to fortified positions on the LBS, the question arises of the size / weight of a miniature thermobaric charge with the possibility of its point delivery to a specific dugout ... Instead of figuring Solntsepek around the areas, this is good for stopping a massive bulk through a forest belt / field. But not very effective against fortifications on a platoon
      1. 0
        31 March 2023 17: 01
        Shot from GM94. 5 meters zone of continuous destruction. And like in Vogue. They tried to make a thermobar. It didn't work. The volume of the mixture is small. It is easier to use a tolo-hexogen composite.
    2. +1
      29 March 2023 23: 15
      on point 1. - right. The enemy at the forefront and near it may simply not have enough targets to use all the drones. Or it turns out that up to half of them are false. From plywood, cardboard and more ...
  7. 0
    29 March 2023 05: 49
    If, however, kamikaze UAVs are produced in the format of the so-called FPV drones (First Person View), which are relatively inexpensive, then they can become the main means of hitting ground targets (and possibly air targets) on the front line - to defend from small-sized kamikaze UAVs will be extremely difficult, if not impossible.

    The main thing here is not in the external appearance of the UAV (we mastered the concept quite successfully in ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING), but in the internal content.

    Yes, 100 kamikaze UAVs per day or 36 kamikaze UAVs per year will already have an impact on the course of hostilities, but they will not affect it radically. But 500 kamikaze UAVs a day or more will not only have an impact, but will change the course of the conflict as a whole. And it is precisely these figures that we should strive for.
    And there is no doubt that these figures are quite real, there would be a desire among those who have the opportunity to influence this situation, tipping the scales in our favor.

    There could be no doubt if the result was obvious.
    So far, we can only state this:
  8. 0
    29 March 2023 06: 04
    the United States will get the most important advantage from UAVs, because they are on a separate continent
  9. 0
    29 March 2023 07: 10
    As always, the devil is in the details. Such as the need to collect and extract the electronic and power filling of the UAV from toys and household appliances, or try to purchase in small batches. There would be an abundance of motors, batteries, cameras, transmitters, gyroscopes, accelerometers, controllers - it would be possible to produce millions of cardboard kamikaze UAVs a month. But reality, unfortunately, limits.
    1. 0
      29 March 2023 11: 21
      ... it would be possible to produce cardboard kamikaze UAVs in the millions per month ...

      Then cut the sturgeon ... at least two orders of magnitude.
  10. +1
    29 March 2023 07: 45
    My opinion may seem ridiculous and naive to someone, but the use of the "Eye" symbol from the film of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy is unacceptable to our design bureau.
    1. +3
      29 March 2023 13: 34
      Well, that's what they call us orcs from Mordor *light elves*))) So be it.....
      1. 0
        29 March 2023 23: 04
        the couple you are somehow quickly ready to surrender the meanings; It’s not for nothing that the British have their bun with butter in order to penetrate into the brain, and you directly smeared your convolutions with agar-agar.
    2. +2
      29 March 2023 23: 20
      I don’t think that in the current situation it makes sense to scold the design bureau (beneficial in the sense of developing new weapons) for such humor in the form of a symbol.
      But on the other hand, you can't even imagine that in some countries, some peoples have such symbols and this aesthetics (which we strongly associate with the forces of evil) are used as symbols of good.
      I'm not kidding, here's a detailed example: https://filimon-omon.livejournal.com/4720.html
  11. +6
    29 March 2023 07: 46
    If the Ministry of Defense outsources entire sections of the front, then the high-tech sectors, where it shows weakness, - then God himself ordered. Specialized PMCs can operate in the combat formations of the army, and the listed restrictions on the use of any means will be bypassed. And the manufacturer will quickly have access to resources for expansion.
    1. 0
      29 March 2023 23: 16
      I don’t think that we are talking about business here, although why not, when it “takes off”. And I do not agree that this type of weaponry can be outsourced. Without target designation, such tools cannot be used, and this immediately raises the issue of connection and identification. In addition, the ability to turn a UAV into a weapon is an article in the Russian Federation and requires a reasonable attitude. Because if such "home-made products" suddenly start to be used by criminals (and what will they ban?), then the manufacturer will have sour conversations, at least with investigators. In short, the situation cannot be left unattended.
      1. +2
        30 March 2023 02: 11
        It is high time to understand that if you act according to the principle "no matter how it happens", then, in fact, nothing will come of it.
    2. -1
      April 6 2023 02: 27
      I just can’t understand what prevents an aviation design bureau from placing an order for the development of a series of drones of different characteristics? Have we run out of design bureaus with pilot production? Have we run out of research centers like TsAGI? What can a private firm do that a whole design bureau with a staff of unique engineers and a test base cannot do?
  12. +7
    29 March 2023 08: 30
    If now Ukraine does not have weapons and they hold the front, what will happen when they deploy all these weapons and UAVs? You read and only you are convinced - mediocrity rules with us!
  13. +6
    29 March 2023 08: 34
    "Hello" from KB "Oko" - it is possible that the Russian UAV storm begins today ...???
    Oh, I don't know... I don't know...! Reports from Krajina say that ykpops are much quicker! Both at the "state level" and at the volunteer level! The idea of ​​nationwide (!) assistance to the armed forces is being introduced into the consciousness of the masses successfully, actively and gives results! They also buy in large quantities "agricultural" octocopters with a very decent carrying capacity, which allows you to hang several mortar mines on them ... and not only mortar mines! I had to see, for example, anti-tank mines on a suspension ... Now the APU-shniks are mastering a new "trend" (!) ... MON mines (50/100 ...) on copters! On the "base" of RKG-3 anti-tank grenades, KZ-6 engineering charges, PV-7 grenade launchers, small-sized cumulative air bombs are created ... Among such improvised shock drones there are not only "kamikaze"; but also "returnable" ... that is, with ammunition being dropped or ammunition on a suspension (cable) ... There is something to learn from the Ukrainians ... the presence of a large number of drones with cumulative ammunition (and even correctable ones!) from the Russian troops made it possible to deal with the notorious "leopards", "abrams" with little blood!
  14. +4
    29 March 2023 08: 37
    This is not the first advertising article about these greetings.
    The same thing every time.
    What telecontrol on a big hello for 250 km? Only by civilian coordinates from satellites.
    Even at 30 km, telecontrol for guidance is not easy. Especially if there are noisemakers, signal suppressors. Moreover, the control is not encrypted. Encryption is not allowed to be used.
    The usual circle of skillful hands, the main task of which is to snatch state or private funding for a topic that is now fashionable. Ordinary business, which can become corruption at some point.
    Well, you yourself think, a small kamikaze drone, which is a maximum of 30 km, is launched from a safe rear, it flies to the front line and drops a mine. Or he crashes into an object, which is generally unlikely.
    But on the front line there are mortars, there is artillery. They can hit even cheaper.
    A large kamikaze drone over 250 km will not be able to be guided by the operator. The satellite navigation signal can be distorted or muffled, the drone will simply crash in the wrong place. Without an inertial navigation system, or an optical terrain navigation system, this is a useless thing.
    Drones should be dealt with by military-industrial complex enterprises, enterprises that deal with communication and navigation systems. who have licenses. In cooperation with enterprises that can design and manufacture the optimal drone airframe. To do this, it was simply necessary for a long time to appoint new responsible persons, dismissing and punishing those who failed this topic earlier. Well, the new ones must understand their personal responsibility, otherwise they will be preparing firewood for the front to the front or to the Magadan region.
    1. +7
      29 March 2023 15: 26
      Drones should be dealt with by everyone who can, in order to saturate our troops with them. In the future, out of dozens of manufacturers, only 4-5 most successful ones will remain. This is the only way producers develop in market relations.
      1. 0
        31 March 2023 10: 00
        only in this way in OUR market relations do manufacturers develop who have high patrons or who are able to bring them into the right offices.
    2. +2
      29 March 2023 16: 24
      It is not necessary to fly all 250 kilometers deep into the territory; it can be used as loitering ammunition.
      Any noise suppressors themselves quickly become the target.
      Artillery is cheaper, but this is if you take 1 unguided projectile. Which, for a confident defeat, you need a lot and, at the same time, counter-batteries begin to work on them.
      I would just hand out orders on behalf of the MoD for 10-20-100 drones to anyone who declared the possibility of making them. Something will be stolen directly, somewhere they will not be able to do what was declared, but someone will do it right. Documentation for the best versions or elements can be redeemed, albeit expensive, and replicated. But for this it is necessary to pour a bucket of kerosene into each * op at the top.
      It is not harmful to do the same in terms of anti-drone protection, detection and destruction.
    3. +3
      29 March 2023 19: 46
      Everything is mixed up - if you wait for these with a license, the line of defense will pass just through Magadan. Back in 15, I worked next to an office for the development and production of UAVs. Everything is serious, secrecy, no dual citizenship, etc. More than 8 years and they were not the first and not the only ones! Where is the result? Where is the company of suicide bombers, volunteers and curators of this project? Or did the cattail redeem for all the "guilt with blood" and go to the dacha?
      A cardboard, disposable drone with a motor is needed for each platoon in the amount of several pieces. And 2-3 for situational awareness.
    4. ANB
      +2
      30 March 2023 01: 37
      . Encryption is not allowed to be used.

      Why? Getting a license for this is not so difficult. And simple encryption by xor - no one will find fault with this.
    5. +1
      30 March 2023 03: 49
      At long distances, the drone goes to the target coordinates given to it before launch using a simple and cheap GPS / GLONASS satellite navigation receiver.
    6. +1
      April 6 2023 02: 32
      As I understand it, mortars and "art", in your opinion, replace kamikaze drones without any problems? Apparently from a 120 mm mortar it is very easy to hit a moving truck. It is even easier, apparently, to get from a mortar exactly into the window of a building or into the embrasure of a bunker / bunker. I think that it’s cheaper, faster and safer for the military to use one kamikaze drone in a trench than to fire a dozen mines from an 82 mm mortar, giving out their position more clearly with each shot
  15. 0
    29 March 2023 08: 48
    Quote: Andrey Mitrofanov
    this is an ultra-cheap winged Rocket - Aircraft-type kamikaze UAV based on an internal combustion engine (ICE), ...Rocket for the price of a washing machine

    For the sake of a red word, they are ready to carry such a blizzard / or illiteracy has reached the bottom
    fool
    A ROCKET is an aircraft (projectile) with Jet engine
    Arparat, where the propeller is the propeller, is called a rocket, which means (see above)
    So the author and the AN-2 becomes a biplane rocket plane, and the eagle-10 is a reconnaissance cruise missile.
    Simple materials ensure fast development, large series and low cost.

    There is a double edged sword.
    Ukraine and Russia are close.
    If, in a rage, KB spent time money and began to make balls from substance and sticks,
    Then if the Ukrainians caught this ball and liked it, they will immediately begin to produce such ones from their substance and sticks.
    NO R&D COSTS
    Shit and sticks are the same here and there.
    And people think very similarly
    1. 0
      April 6 2023 02: 35
      From cheap materials it is possible to produce only the fuselage. As well as a partially disposable internal combustion engine. Electronics and optics cannot be made from cardboard, garbage and plywood.
  16. 0
    29 March 2023 09: 44
    I understand that the decision is dictated by economy, but launching from a site is much inferior to launching with a powder accelerator from a container, like the "Shaheds". Which, too, will not cost much more if they are produced at home.

    The car that looks like a truck stops, massively launches dozens of drones-analogues of "shaheeds" and promptly leaves the position. This is an already existing solution from the Iranians!
    1. -1
      30 March 2023 17: 57
      What's the point? They de-electrified, de-electrified, but not de-electrified with shaheeds. Nobody got cold, etc.
  17. -2
    29 March 2023 09: 59
    Design Bureau (KB) "Oko" is a small company from St. Petersburg. Based on the information posted on the telegram channel of KB Oko, its staff is only ten people. Although the company was founded in 2022, its achievements at the beginning of 2023 are impressive, even more impressive are the announced plans of KB Oko.


    As they say, it started over the bumps. At first, for decades, they destroyed and continue to destroy the inherited Soviet military-industrial complex, but like a roasted rooster pecked in one place, they are ready to give money to anyone, anyhow they did something. And of course, all sorts of "small teams of talented youth" climbed up, promising to make another "analogue", just give more money for development.
    And after all, they will give it, after which this "KB" will depict violent activity for some time, why it will self-destruct.
    All the achievements that are in the photo are crafts for which it will be a shame in the circle of aircraft modellers of their home of pioneers.

    In short, the only "analogue" that the current "talented youth" has given birth to is design bureau kamikaze, which quite successfully hit the Russian budget.
    Well, it looks like we'll get to that soon.

    1. +7
      29 March 2023 10: 28
      Have you read the article or just the first sentence, and then in the comments? Where is it written that this office got into the budget? Judging by the text, these are guys who understand that it is impossible to contact the state in the current state, but it is necessary to work for victory and definitely not with the state.
      1. -3
        29 March 2023 11: 09
        I no longer believe in fairy tales, especially on the topic: they won in spite of.
        And also I am not looking for devotees and unmercenaries where the final product has a price.
        And judging by the text, the mention of a mysterious customer only indicates that the chain to the budget feeder is longer.
      2. -1
        29 March 2023 12: 49
        You can not get into government pockets. Now, on a "voluntary" basis, they collect money from enterprises and organizations to help the participants of the NWO. What prevents certain people from spending this money on such crafts? Volunteers and PMCs do not make any claims. They do not look at a given horse's teeth.
        1. -2
          29 March 2023 23: 39
          So it's even more vile, not to cut the budget, but donations from citizens.
  18. +1
    29 March 2023 10: 21
    Quote: Graz
    in my opinion it’s a little expensive to make a kamikaze drone for 60.000 rubles with an 82mm mine, it seems that for this there are quadrocopters with grenades, vogs and other exploding things that work on entrenched infantry, which, although they cost more, can be used many times, it’s like it’s more effective for me, of course, in some cases, and this option will come in

    Quadcopters weigh, by no means, not cheap.
  19. +4
    29 March 2023 10: 23
    The saddest thing is that even our aircraft modeling circles were killed by effective managers. It is hard to believe that these managers will do something worthwhile and quickly. All that they know how to cut budgets and take offshore and evaporate in a fabulous way. How many of these were Skolkovo, nanotechnology with their director. And for our guys, we are dropping on drones and equipment from the PRC. And those who should be doing this continue their policy, nothing changes, only blah blah. Mutual responsibility no one is not responsible for anything.
  20. +5
    29 March 2023 10: 26
    If a small company of 10 people is preparing to produce 100 drones per day, then how they will be able to produce them with the support of the state?

    ------------------
    If with the current state support, then exactly zero will be able to produce. Although the money will be mastered. First you need to tighten the screws in the state. And throw away the cogs about 90%.
  21. +4
    29 March 2023 12: 54
    I subscribe to every word. Even at the beginning of the conflict, he repeatedly said that if you collect at least a small part of all aircraft modelers from the time of the USSR to the mid-zero, you can fill up the whole of Europe with swarms of Deshman drones. Right now, everyone is 30-40-45 years old, there is still more than enough strength.

    No air defense can cope with such attacks.
  22. -1
    29 March 2023 14: 16
    Also, Oko Design Bureau plans to add a “silent attack” mode to its products, when, before diving on the target, not only the engine is turned off, but the propeller is also fixed to prevent its rotation in autorotation mode (under the influence of an oncoming air flow).

    And the apparatus itself will not begin to rotate at the same time, going to the side?
    1. -2
      29 March 2023 16: 29
      And the apparatus itself will not begin to rotate at the same time, going to the side?

      The torque from the locked propeller to the fuselage will be transmitted, but it can be compensated by the steering planes.
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  23. +2
    29 March 2023 14: 21
    Again in the future tense. Compose, produce, release, make, hundreds of thousands of pieces in the future...
    Fed up, I don't believe in anything. Continuous marking time and transfusion from empty to empty ...
  24. 0
    29 March 2023 14: 42
    it would be easier to say - the men in the garage are trying to collect something on their knees and earn money along the way ... 10 people are just power, subtly hinting at fraud and drinking dough .... somewhat reminiscent of the plot from the movie "The Wolf of Wall Street" where the hero DiCaprio is offered to sell the shares of the young company "Airodime", which settled in some kind of garage .. it looks like someone watched this movie ..
    1. 0
      29 March 2023 16: 12
      A low barrier to entry into this type of activity, low costs for equipment and materials, a short production cycle and a period from research to a prototype and finished products, so that something flying and fighting will be paid, because how to research, refine and improve such products will be right on LBS. As you can see, there are already working prototypes and the whole question is in the scale of increasing production: how many pieces will be produced per day.
  25. +3
    29 March 2023 16: 04
    Company website: http://oko-kb.ru
    Petrol engines 5 hp sold freely at prices of about 10 thousand rubles. Plywood and jigsaws without restrictions. Plastic, foam, fiberglass, epoxy. Servo machines with gearboxes for deflecting the control surfaces of the wing, tail and keel cost a penny, as well as their control electronics. Radio control boards cost like a pack of butter. 5-10 thousand rubles a camera transmitting an image at a distance of up to 5 km, a GPS / GLONASS guidance module is even cheaper. The abilities of a novice modeler-designer are enough. It is possible to assemble an impact UAV capable of carrying up to 16 kg of explosives at the price of a "washing machine". The main desire.
    1. -1
      29 March 2023 23: 45
      Radio control boards cost like a pack of butter.


      And what is the noise immunity of such boards? How about the detector receiver?
      1. 0
        April 3 2023 17: 43
        Judging by the fact that shock FPV quadrocopters capable of delivering directly to the target (in the dugout, to the window) at a distance of up to 5 km 3 kg of explosives (including mon-50, an RPG shot, four fragmentation grenades) are assembled by craftsmen on their knees from such modules with a total cost of an impact drone of 30 thousand rubles. The same specialists have long figured out how to increase the range and noise immunity. They use improved antennas of their own design on the UAV itself and aimed at the control center, they are able to automatically tune frequencies, relay control signals and video signals through UAV repeaters. Digital communications are better protected than analog ones simply because of the ability to apply anti-jamming codes, scan radio channels with less interference and switch to them automatically, route the signal through other relay nodes, through other UAVs.
  26. -1
    29 March 2023 16: 12
    Peremoga ....
    But now it's almost evening, and the UAV-storm has not yet thought of attacking ....

    So far, articles occasionally break through information that supposedly Ukraine is buying thousands of UAVs. That in some areas it is impossible for fighters to get out directly into space. And so on.
  27. +1
    29 March 2023 16: 27
    Quote: Sunwenmin
    As always, the devil is in the details. Such as the need to collect and extract the electronic and power filling of the UAV from toys and household appliances, or try to purchase in small batches. There would be an abundance of motors, batteries, cameras, transmitters, gyroscopes, accelerometers, controllers - it would be possible to produce millions of cardboard kamikaze UAVs a month. But reality, unfortunately, limits.

    And why not give the command to master the production of components at home? Rostec State Corporation should pull this load.
  28. 0
    29 March 2023 16: 39
    The estimated cost of the Hi-82 UAV is about 60 rubles.
    With a mine power of 82mm - enchanting and 100000r with a 120mm mine, all the more so.
  29. -1
    29 March 2023 17: 40
    A promising direction is the creation of a neural network for controlling FPV drones.
    1. 0
      29 March 2023 23: 21
      Well, this is not a short-range task. Offhand, it seems to me that 5 years of development and testing is required.
  30. +2
    29 March 2023 19: 21
    An 82mm mine is tough against a group of infantry in an open area or a civilian SUV. It will only scratch the armored car and make the passengers settle down ... We need a shaped charge to guarantee damage to the armor. Otherwise, it's all hype - profanity.
    1. 0
      29 March 2023 21: 10
      In dimensions of 82 mm there can be a cumulative, as in the Lancet 3kg. And 220mm armor penetration
  31. -2
    29 March 2023 19: 35
    I think that this is a promising startup. The Defense Ministry needs to urgently purchase the produced drones and immediately transfer them to the front line. This is a consumable material and will need a large amount. And firms producing cardboard drones, having earned the first money on deliveries, I am sure that they will use them to expand the range and improve the design. And where to get the components, there will be a headache for the supplier of the company.
    Each additional UAV-brick of the speedy victory of Russia.
    Well, the secret service should monitor the fairness of contract prices.
  32. +1
    29 March 2023 20: 58
    The topic of drone communications and their performance against electronic warfare and electronic warfare has not been disclosed at all. Fairy tales about the future tense are already very annoying.
  33. 0
    29 March 2023 22: 29
    Simple materials ensure fast development, large series and low cost

    Simple materials will allow rapid prototyping and verification of key features. But a wooden propeller cannot provide a large series and low cost. If this wooden propeller is not produced from the bowels of the Federal Penitentiary Service.
  34. 0
    29 March 2023 22: 41
    Quote: Civil
    Until there is confirmed data on the mass production of UAVs, and not on the purchase and re-gluing of names on UAVs from aliexpress, I will not believe it.

    Fuck everyone, believe it or not
  35. +1
    30 March 2023 00: 28
    Who believed in this custom advertising? Don't think. Yeah, ten people and one year of work experience. And, all KBs, rest. And not only ours, judging by the text. Another cut and theft.
    1. 0
      30 March 2023 02: 13
      Quote: Volunteer Marek
      Who believed in this custom advertising?

      Those. a story about some kind of state-owned enterprise that, at the very least, produces something in meager quantities, is not advertising, but about interested people who have created effective production with their own hands - this is an order)))
      Quote: Volunteer Marek
      Yeah, ten people and one year of work experience. And, all KBs, rest.

      Yes, they are resting))) Have you looked at the pictures carefully? Carefully read the principle underlying their creativity?
      Quote: Volunteer Marek
      Another cut and theft.

      Whom did he cut? or what?))) Own funds of a private enterprise? when language is faster than thought.

      The guys are handsome, you can immediately see a thoughtful approach in order to obtain maximum manufacturability and ease of production. Laser machines cut plywood non-stop, no filing or any other operations are needed, just assemble and glue the constructor. Screws can be made on a 3D printer. Everything else was also made as much as possible from simple and affordable components. The body and planes can generally be wrapped with a stretch film in a couple of turns, except for the control planes, it's still a one-way flight.
    2. 0
      30 March 2023 09: 25
      Who believed in this custom advertising? Don't think. Yeah, ten people and one year of work experience. And, all KBs, rest. And not only ours, judging by the text. Another cut and theft.


      Yes, enough, and here there are all sorts of "Mitki". Who earnestly believe that on the knee, from guano and sticks, you can build a wunderwaffe, or in our version, there is no analogue.
      By the way, why do they have domestic there? Plywood and nails? After all, "cheap engines for agricultural machinery, cheap boards and cameras" are all imports. What hundreds of thousands are we talking about here?
      By the way, judging by the photo, there are very big doubts that there are engines from walk-behind tractors. One is exactly for the ALS, and this is a different order of prices and, again, imports.
      What else can I say from the photo, yet I understand aviation, unlike enthusiastic idiots.
      Plywood and slats as a power set may be justified for a one-time construction, but only for the thirties. Now it is much cheaper and more technologically advanced foam, carbon fiber, and even fiberglass.
      And the boys not only have a culture of weight below the plinth, but also an excess margin of safety. There is only one conclusion, they stupidly scaled the once existing structure.
      They have no time to do something of their own, the main thing is to show that it flies (in the absence of electronic warfare and air defense, of course), because visibility is the basis of advertising. Next, send a certain number of Pepelats to a secondary sector of the front, where you can’t see or check, but you can raise a cry about "high combat effectiveness."
      Well, what is already in the article:
      Yes, 100 kamikaze UAVs per day or 36 kamikaze UAVs per year will already have an impact on the course of hostilities, but they will not affect it radically. But 500 kamikaze UAVs a day or more will not only have an impact, but will change the course of the conflict as a whole. And it is precisely these figures that we should strive for.

      But will the boys pull such volumes at the expense of donations? This is such a subtle, that is, bold text, hint at the budget. lol
      1. -1
        30 March 2023 14: 57
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        Yes, enough, and here there are all sorts of "Mitki". Who earnestly believe that on the knee, from guano and sticks, you can build a wunderwaffe, or in our version, there is no analogue.

        Yes, yes, tell that to the Iranians)))
        1. +1
          30 March 2023 15: 54
          And what, the Iranians also sculpt from plywood, and pull out boards from toys?
  36. +1
    30 March 2023 00: 45
    Think right. The economy of the troops is half the war. And no matter how sophisticated the participants' technique is - the more precise and expensive components it contains - the more problems in the event of a serious mess. Equipment should be in balance between performance characteristics and economic indicators: cost, costs in man-hours per unit, complexity of production deployment, range of spare parts and fuels and lubricants, mass production, and so on. Western civilization has always stumbled against us, including because it made bets on expensive complex toys. The best example is the Tiger against 34s. : The Germans burned themselves very badly in the economy of tanks. They were with the best optics for their time, a gun, radio communications, and other nodes, but they stupidly did not take out the tank in the economy. With each tiger, dozens of simpler and cheaper 34k were produced, both in terms of timing and costs. Nevertheless, 34s ​​were not in those same dozens of times worse. As a result, the best tank of World War II was recognized .... Hmm, not a tiger)) Complex equipment is good only against the Papuans. Because there is no one and nothing to break it in response.
  37. +1
    30 March 2023 02: 00
    If a small company of 10 people is preparing to produce 100 drones a day, how many can they produce with government support?

    from 1 to 10 at a price of 100 or more, depending on the greed of the management apparatus, the number of managers for advertising and other husks, the number of gaskets, etc.
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  39. +1
    30 March 2023 10: 20
    If a small company of 10 people is preparing to produce 100 drones a day, how many can they produce with government support?


    With the support of the state, this company will produce the same 100 drones per day, but the purchase price will increase by three to five times, no wonder, this is the way government officials work ....
  40. -1
    30 March 2023 11: 32
    There is such a Federal Agency for Government Communications and Information under the President of the Russian Federation, FAPSI, a super-service created for cyber warfare. This structure could come up with software firmware to protect civilian drones. What is the problem? Or is it a departmental issue?
  41. 0
    30 March 2023 12: 13
    Such cheap greetings are good for volunteers and guerrillas. They need to be developed and produced in parallel with UAVs for the Moscow Region (which, according to GOST, according to military acceptance, are secret and expensive). As in any sphere of life, there is an application for cheap and mass, as well as expensive specialized.
    The combined use will allow a small cheap UAV link to open priority targets, such as electronic warfare, air defense and other anti-drone units, then the most serious “birds” are used to suppress these targets, and finally a massive attack by the main flock occurs.
    The use of single UAVs will be effective only if the enemy is completely unable to resist or if absolute invisibility is used in all spectra and ranges.
  42. 0
    30 March 2023 14: 33
    Well done guys, doing what they can.
    But they need me.
    I came up with a technology for making gliders on common machines, 1000 pieces a day per piece of equipment, at the price of a roll of toilet paper.
    But we need to start mass production of copies of electronic equipment.
    You need to start small, the guys in the trench need the UAV to fly at least 500 meters.
    And let them lead the development of high technologies. But this is about tomorrow.
    But without an order from the Moscow Region, such a mass of devices cannot be made, and if done, then it cannot be effectively implemented. We need materials, schools, operators, mobile repair shops, experienced tuners.....
    And most importantly, the Defense Ministry and the government as a whole must abandon the idiotic outdated standards for accepting new types of weapons into service. And the criterion here may be the price of the product.
    Dear global let them test in full.
    Business front-line should be understood by the fact of manufacture, until the design is worked out by the method of natural selection.
    The shame that exists today must be stopped. There is nothing more shameful for the MO than to fight with Chinese toys.
  43. 0
    30 March 2023 18: 00
    Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
    Soviet military-industrial complex

    I don’t remember the Soviet military-industrial complex having massive cheap UAVs. More and more they gravitated once again to modernize the V-2 from the T-34.
  44. -1
    30 March 2023 18: 56
    There will be no storm, the reason is simple, in Russia there is no industry working for the needs of the population, one that also produces engines for aircraft modeling, for light hang gliders and the like. There is also no mass production of civilian electronics, but on the basis of it, simple mass-produced UAVs are made. 36 drones are certainly tempting, but who will make 500 engines a year for these papelats? Maybe it's time to throw a cry and organize the collection of old household appliances for gutting for spare parts? I have said and will continue to say that drones are a side dish, the main task of destroying the enemy should be carried out by aviation. After a specific bombardment of German positions by the Americans, the losses of the German division amounted to 36% l / s killed, wounded and shell-shocked. And we are talking about a delivery vehicle for 500 mm mines at a distance of three km for a horse price. Isn't it funny yourself?
  45. 0
    30 March 2023 19: 06
    Today I read that AvtoVAZ is again stopping production, since those manufacturers of components with which it replaced suppliers from Western countries also refused to cooperate. We have not been able to produce our own auto components for many years now, although both funding and state support seemed to be available. An automatic transmission, a technology from the last century, has not been mastered, but what if tomorrow they will master the production of UAVs of all types and purposes, which, if we are not talking about crafts from school aircraft modeling circles, are much more complicated and more technologically advanced than the AKP that is not given to our engineers? Storytellers.
  46. 0
    30 March 2023 19: 43
    Perhaps, perhaps not. Without a kick from above, no one, except for volunteers, fusses.
  47. 0
    31 March 2023 00: 20
    One thing is not clear, how to put a mine 82 and a shot from an RPG, for these Greetings, on a combat platoon?
    After all, in a normal situation, this happens when a shot is fired ...
  48. TIR
    0
    April 1 2023 15: 07
    We need kamikaze UAVs with 7-8 kg of TNT. 5 kg does not always destroy self-propelled guns. To defeat a tank, you need to have a COP. Better yet, a single UAV with a quick warhead replacement. And we need thousands of them. It is not enough to have shock UAVs. It is necessary for their use to have a complete picture of the entire rear of the enemy up to 100 km. It is such that up to 50 km single equipment is detected, and from 50 to 100 columns are already
    1. 0
      April 2 2023 08: 34
      there are UAVs Corsair and Katran that were taken along Red Square. like drums, but they are not on the battlefield, and no one asks questions: Why?

  49. 0
    April 3 2023 12: 38
    Dreams, dreams ...... If the leadership and command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation had an iron will and desire in the implementation of these undertakings. And it should have started yesterday.
  50. 0
    April 6 2023 15: 36
    The main criterion for the creation of the UAV-kamikaze of KB "Oko" is to minimize the cost of the final product, which will ensure high serial production. The company declares its readiness to produce 100 kamikaze UAVs per day, that is, 36 kamikaze UAVs per year.

    You can go even further - a leader system (target designator, saturated with video, radio electronics) and a group of slaves carrying a charge, working on a target, on the lead's guidance.
    1. 0
      April 6 2023 17: 13
      Can. But they won't. When did you last see the Su70 hunter according to this scheme?
  51. 0
    April 6 2023 16: 31
    Gasoline CHINESE engines are very unreliable and start every now and then. This cannot be supplied to the army, but, sad as it is, we don’t have our own engines.
  52. +1
    April 6 2023 17: 11
    110000 rubles = 1400 bucks. At this price, they only supply the army with matches and toothpicks. This means that there is no trace of any noise immunity in these “devices in the pictures.”
  53. -1
    April 7 2023 17: 15
    "Hello" from KB "Oko" - it is possible that the Russian UAV storm begins today

    And it should have started not even yesterday, but the day before yesterday! From the Syrian experience of using UAVs and drones with light ammunition by dushmans and other Wahhabites.
    Our trouble is that, according to a stupid tradition, our generals and leadership are preparing exclusively for the last war and are completely indifferent to military-technical development. Alas...
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  55. 0
    15 September 2023 17: 10
    In reality, the enterprise only has to assemble the products, and the airframe components can be manufactured even at home.
    1. 0
      15 September 2023 17: 16
      Many people would agree to help on a voluntary basis.