With heavy losses: Polish self-propelled guns AHS Krab in Ukraine

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With heavy losses: Polish self-propelled guns AHS Krab in Ukraine
AHS Krab self-propelled guns at the front, May 2022. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine


Last year, Poland donated to the Kyiv regime a number of AHS Krab self-propelled artillery mounts from its army. Such equipment quickly got into the combat zone and began combat work. However, there are known risks and threats at the front, as a result of which the fleet of Ukrainian "Crabs" has suffered serious losses by now.



Gift and contract


Information about the possible delivery of self-propelled guns Krab from the presence of Polish ground forces to Ukraine appeared last spring. Already at the end of May, the Polish media reported on the shipment of such equipment. The Kyiv regime received 18 self-propelled guns, as well as ammunition and additional equipment for them, free of charge, in the form of military assistance. In addition, one of the Polish training centers had trained a hundred Ukrainian artillerymen by this time.

Not later than a few weeks later, at the end of May, the Crabs entered the combat zone. At the same time, the first photo and video materials appeared, demonstrating their presence and use at the front.


Self-propelled gun in a camouflaged position. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

Just a few days later, it became known that Warsaw and Kyiv were planning new deliveries of the AHS Krab. As reported by the Polish media and confirmed by officials, a contract was signed for the construction and transfer to the Ukrainian side of 54 new self-propelled guns and related materiel. The total cost of equipment and other property will be PLN 3 billion (approx. USD 700 million), making this the most expensive contract in the stories modern Polish military exports.

The transfer of new "Crabs" for Ukraine has not yet been reported. However, production is already being prepared, and organizational and other issues are being resolved. In particular, Poland receives the necessary permits from foreign partners. The fact is that the Krab self-propelled guns are built on a South Korean-designed chassis and include a lot of imported components. In some cases, the export of such equipment requires the permission of the supplier of the units.

In early March, it became known that South Korea had issued several export licenses to the Polish side that it needed. Similar documents and permits from other foreign suppliers are likely to appear soon. Such licenses will make it possible to manufacture 54 self-propelled guns and transfer them to the Kyiv regime. At the same time, the terms of construction and delivery are still unknown.


Consequences of a failed shot. Photo Telegram / BMPD

In the war zone


So far, Ukraine, according to official figures, has received only 18 Polish AHS Krab vehicles - a set for one self-propelled artillery battalion with several batteries. The existing contract will create three more divisions. Of course, if by the time deliveries begin it will be relevant and it will be possible to fulfill it in full.

It is known that "Crabs" one by one and as part of batteries are used in different sectors of the front. At the same time, Ukrainian artillerymen have to use all the main functions and the full potential of the self-propelled system. First of all, we are talking about high mobility. The crews try to get into position as quickly as possible, fire and go to a safe place - until they are spotted and hit back. At the same time, it is far from always possible to escape from counter-battery fire and other means.

Last year, it became known that Polish-made self-propelled guns are facing technical problems. Thus, the intensity of operation exceeds the calculated one, which leads to premature wear and breakdown of components and assemblies, including the most important ones. Last year's incident with the rupture of the barrel of one of the self-propelled guns was widely known: when fired, half of the worn pipe literally flew off to the side along with the projectile.


The wreckage of the "Crab", shot down in November. Photo Lostarmour.info

The Polish side is aware of such problems and has taken action. If necessary, "Crabs" and other equipment are evacuated to Polish territory for medium and major repairs. After restoration, the machines are returned to parts for further service.

Forced demilitarization


Despite all the measures and tricks, the Ukrainian artillery suffers serious losses, and the AHS Krab self-propelled guns are no exception. To date, the Russian army has destroyed a significant part of the existing fleet of such self-propelled guns with the help of various strike means. At the same time, the process of forced demilitarization by force continues, and we can expect new reports of wrecked and burned "Crabs".

The Russian Ministry of Defense first officially announced the destruction of the Krab self-propelled guns in October last year. In the future, reports from the Ministry of Defense mentioned several more similar episodes. In total, to date, the defeat of a large number of "Crabs" has been declared, comparable to the officially announced volume of delivered equipment.

The well-known resource LostArmour provides slightly different data. To date, according to available materials, he has established and confirmed the defeat of seven self-propelled guns. At the same time, the first of them was destroyed in July last year. The second was hit in November, and in December the enemy lost four more. The last such loss, confirmed by video footage, was in January.


Burnt self-propelled guns in the Dnipropetrovsk region, December 2022. Photo by Lostarmour.info

Data from two sources show that the Russian army has been confident and successful in finding and hitting AHS Krab self-propelled guns for a long time. The marked discrepancy in dates and numbers can be explained in several ways. So, Ukraine and Poland can restore equipment that is damaged, but suitable for repair.

New shipments may also take place. It cannot be ruled out that the Polish side, solving its political tasks, sends new armored vehicles to the Ukrainian partners to replace the destroyed ones. In addition, the recent acquisition of export licenses makes it possible to start deliveries of new equipment under last year's commercial contract. It is unlikely that Warsaw was waiting for all the documents to be drawn up, and could already begin production of new self-propelled guns for Kyiv.

According to a predictable scenario


In general, the situation around the Polish AHS Krab self-propelled guns in service with Ukrainian formations is developing according to a predictable scenario. Its main features could have been predicted last spring. Accordingly, further events are also quite easy to predict.


Evacuation of the damaged ACS. The item may be refurbishable. December 2022 Photo by Losarmour.info

Poland handed over to Ukraine a divisional set of its own self-propelled guns, and the recipient began to use them in battles. As was immediately expected, despite all precautions, the Crabs and other foreign equipment could not make up for the losses of the Ukrainian formations. In addition, they themselves have become targets for strikes, and the number of such equipment in the ranks is constantly declining.

The enemy, with foreign aid, is trying to restore the AHS Krab fleet, but the total number of such equipment and, accordingly, the combat potential remain at an insufficient level. The existing contract for self-propelled guns of new production, in theory, can improve the situation, but the timing of the delivery of equipment remains unknown. How the position of the Ukrainian artillery will change by that time is a big question.

However, it is clear that the Ukrainian side has no reasons for optimism. Despite foreign assistance in the form of supplies of equipment, its repair, etc., the overall potential of self-propelled artillery is gradually declining due to natural wear and tear and the active influence of the Russian army. It is quite clear what this will lead to in the end. And the final will not suit either the Ukrainian or the Polish side.
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  1. +5
    24 March 2023 05: 20
    I would not be very optimistic about the conclusion that the overall potential of self-propelled artillery is gradually declining. The West is increasing production and supplies. And the damaged ones are repaired quickly and returned to service. They don’t have Rostec and Chemezov, who are selling repair plants. And there are no other "ours" officials, so there is less mess.
    1. +4
      24 March 2023 06: 34
      Exactly. And all this fuss with a lack of shells and other fatigues is nonsense designed for the layman. No one will let us go and the volume of deliveries to Khokhls will not be reduced. They will only increase and intensify. The total potential of Europe exceeds the Russian Federation by an order of magnitude. And here they are superbly helped by tips in the form of military-industrial complex managers and other shushara that kill factories and shipyards, selling everything and everything that can only make a profit
      1. +2
        24 March 2023 06: 52
        Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense. On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.
        1. +2
          24 March 2023 08: 48
          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense. On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.

          Who took it? Other officials, with all the pros and cons.
          1. +1
            24 March 2023 13: 52
            Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense
            what a joy! And what happened before?
            Can this explain the simplification of tank sights, MLTBs with 25 mm guns and Baofengs?
            Where are the Almaty, Kurgan and Boomerangs?
        2. 0
          24 March 2023 09: 41
          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense. On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.

          And is everything fine with MO himself? Where, then, are the missing stocks of ammunition?
        3. NKT
          +6
          24 March 2023 14: 17
          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense. On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.

          The only thing left is to put the Ministry of Defense under control
        4. -2
          25 March 2023 00: 13
          Quote from kromer
          On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.



          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex are now tightly taken

          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex are now tightly taken

          Quote from kromer
          Managers in the military-industrial complex are now tightly taken

          Citizen how old are you and what pink cloud do you live in?
          1. in Russia there were 3 (THREE) SAPs, which were hit by tens of trillions of rubles
          2. decrees? as an example Vladimir Putin's "May Decrees" five years later (review 2017)
          3. Today Dmitry Anatolyevich
    2. +6
      24 March 2023 09: 42
      New Crabs under contract are in the works with delivery for this year. Additional deliveries from stock are also possible, since the Koreans are driving ahead of schedule, they have already transported 48 K9s (and the next new K2s).

  2. +11
    24 March 2023 06: 42
    However, it is clear that the Ukrainian side has no reasons for optimism. Despite foreign assistance in the form of supplies of equipment, its repair, etc., the overall potential of self-propelled artillery is gradually declining due to natural wear and tear and the active influence of the Russian army.


    The Ukrainian side caught the sad girl. But the Russian side is full of optimism. "D-1 is an excellent weapon!" war correspondents tell us.

    In general, perhaps a respected author will get together and make a thematic review of the latest technology. T-54, BTR-50, D-1. The appropriate name is "For the Motherland, for Stalin!". And the fact that everything is about the Poles and about the Poles.
  3. 0
    24 March 2023 09: 38
    And what - we no longer have any levers of pressure on Korea? Why, for example, in response to supplies to Poland, not to throw something the Juche people need? As a sign that nasty things are by no means one-sided? You look - and there would not be all these Crabs in Tsegabonia ..
    1. +8
      24 March 2023 09: 53
      What are the levers of pressure on Korea? Here's what to put Kim? Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles - there are not enough of them themselves, and the southerners have nowhere to store their tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, they will not be afraid. Rockets - so soon Kim will put the rockets. For he did not sign any agreements (like the Southerners) and for him Iskander is a dubious firecracker. Lucky little and not far. Why would he do that? If he has his own Iskander for 2 tons of useful.

      Well, Southerners are similar.

      Ships? So they themselves have a deficit, plus Southerners have more and fatter.

      Directly if you look for something that will interest Kim and hurt the Southerners:
      636 - it's just that it will pull the Korean submarine forces from the 70s into the 90s. And the southerners will have to strain, in the search, because the Kimov clones of the roaring cow (project 633), roar, albeit quieter, but for the whole district.
      Su-35, Su-30SM2, Su-34 and a bunch of ASPs for them - it’s just that now the DPRK Air Force is nothing and the southerners feel at ease in military planning.
      Attack helicopters Mi-28 / Ka-52 - similarly, the DPRK army aviation hug and cry. It can be ignored in planning.
      1. +1
        24 March 2023 11: 27
        Quote: donavi49
        636 - it's just that it will pull the Korean submarine forces from the 70s into the 90s. And southerners will have to strain, in search

        The Americans here began to sell nuclear submarines to non-nuclear countries. It is unlikely that Korea will have any problems in this matter.
    2. +7
      24 March 2023 11: 25
      Quote: paul3390
      As a sign that nasty things are by no means one-sided? You look - and there would not be all these Crabs in Tsegabonia ..

      When you suggest this, keep in mind that South Korea is the number one artillery power in the world. And the number of guns, and the number of shells - cannot be compared with all sorts of germaniums.

      I know a place where artillery is very much needed, even if not the most modern.
      1. 0
        24 March 2023 20: 02
        Yes, this war knew many ingenious solutions, but to turn South Korea into arsenal of democracy would have won by a huge margin. By the way, it is precisely because of blatant idiocy that I do not exclude the embodiment of something like this into reality.
        1. +3
          24 March 2023 22: 38
          Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
          Yes, this war knew many brilliant solutions, but turning South Korea into an arsenal of democracy would have won by a huge margin

          Come on. announce NATO ultimatum, they say, collect the belongings, and then immediately arrange a small victorious one - such a move cannot be interrupted.
    3. +2
      25 March 2023 00: 20
      Quote: paul3390
      And what - we no longer have any levers of pressure on Korea?

      On what?
      Do you want to close this gap too?
      Quote: paul3390
      Why, for example, in response to supplies to Poland, not to throw something the Juche people need?

      ask to ship 115mm shells for the T-62 .... Since this is the only country that produces them. Syria doesn't count
      but "pressure on S. Korea"
      recourse
      February 2021
      Russian diplomats returned from North Korea on a railcar. She had to be pushed


      The Russian Foreign Ministry released footage of the return to Russia of eight employees of the embassy in North Korea and their families. They caused a great resonance - the fact is that the Russians, in order to return home, had to push the trolley across the border by rail.
      1. -2
        25 March 2023 21: 46
        What a strange railroad. And the fact that on the railcar is not used. I would build a normal piece of iron in the place of our government and would trade with North Korea, and not support sanctions. And there is almost no trade with it. And grain can be sold not to Africa, but to Comrade Kim)
    4. 0
      April 2 2023 14: 09
      For themselves, to warm up from all corners. Not to mention deliveries to "someone". Demilitarization is what it is.
  4. -3
    24 March 2023 09: 48
    And whose crews are on Crabs? Poles are decreasing in number?
    1. 0
      April 2 2023 14: 15
      A witness of uncountable mercenaries was found.
      I have one question for those - why have no one seen these Poles so far, and taken them prisoner? Ukrainians in captivity - to the heap. Polyakov, not a single one, how is it?
      Or is this whole story with mercenaries just a fiction to justify their inability to defeat the army of ukrov?
  5. -3
    24 March 2023 12: 39
    Dear military experts! Yes, as for production and supplies, that's for sure, production will increase, supplies will be everything in the world. But, as always, the demons are in the details: printing banknotes is getting more and more problematic, inflation, sir, and slaves will not work hard even in the colonies for waste paper, respectively, raw materials, energy, wages will greatly lower production in the "metropolises". And in third countries, Bashirov and Petrov will find approaches if they wish ...
    Well, the human resource. The stoned ones will end sooner or later, even especially professional ones. And pragmatists will find ways not to die and live a little longer, if not in Paris, then somewhere in Uch-Kuduk. As Ramzan Akhmatovich likes to say, "Allah loves the unhurried."
  6. -2
    24 March 2023 22: 52
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Poles are decreasing in number?

    For any they decrease, and in "Crabs" or not it is not so important, the main thing is that the lords and ladies are disposed of by all available means, as it should be done with the enemy.
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  8. -1
    12 September 2023 12: 01
    Quote: NKT
    Quote from kromer
    Managers in the military-industrial complex have now been taken up tightly, putting the entire military-industrial complex under the control of the Ministry of Defense. On this occasion, there were several presidential decrees.

    The only thing left is to put the Ministry of Defense under control

    Recently, one such controller (now deceased) tried. But first, something went wrong with the control, and then with the controller.
    You are shaking from the bureaucracy and the Kremlin brethren, and the military - this octopus will probably be worse.
  9. 0
    12 September 2023 12: 07
    Again we destroy everything then what the hell... we stand still