Russian Su-35s for the Iranian Air Force

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Iran plans to seriously upgrade its air force and in this context is showing great interest in the Russian aviation technique. Recently it became known that Tehran may purchase modern aircraft of several types, including the Su-35 multifunctional fighter. Now it is reported that the contract for such machines has already been signed, and the delivery of the first batch is scheduled for next year.

Supply contract

Iran's interest in and desire to buy Russian combat aircraft has been reported over the past few years. However, information of this kind came only from unofficial sources, incl. from abroad. The first statements on this topic from officials and organizations have appeared only recently.

In September 2022, the general plans for the development of Iranian military aviation were revealed by the commander of the Air Force, Brigadier General Hamid Vahedi. According to him, it was planned to resolve the issue of purchasing Su-35 fighters in the near future. In the future, they also planned to purchase Su-30 aircraft. At the same time, the quantity and cost of equipment, as well as the delivery time, were not specified.

In mid-January, a member of the National Security and Foreign Policy Commission of the Islamic Advisory Council, Sharhiar Heidari, revealed new details. As reported by the Tasnim news agency, he said that Iran ordered a variety of weapons systems and military equipment from Russia, incl. planes and helicopters. In particular, there is a contract for the supply of Su-35 fighters. The first batch of such equipment should arrive in Iran at the beginning of next 2024.

On March 10, an important statement was made by the Iranian mission to the UN. It recalled that back in 1988, after the end of the war with Iraq, Tehran turned to a number of countries with a request to study the possibility of selling it fighter planes. Russia announced its readiness to sell the necessary equipment, but until recently such a deal was impossible due to the UN Security Council ban on the sale of conventional weapons to Iran.

In October 2020, the Security Council lifted restrictions, and Iran agreed to buy Russian aircraft. The Iranian mission to the UN reports that the process of signing a contract for the supply of Su-35 fighters has been completed. However, the number and timing of deliveries are not named due to secrecy.

Thus, Russia and Iran, observing secrecy and not attracting attention, held the necessary consultations and negotiations. As a result, several contracts for the supply of equipment appeared, incl. Su-35 fighters. The details of the deal have not yet been disclosed. Probably, this information will be disclosed later, when deliveries begin.

Commercial achievements

The Su-35 multifunctional fighter was developed in the 2008s, and in February 2009 it first flew into the air. Already in 48, the first contract for the mass production of such equipment appeared - the Russian Air Force ordered 2015 aircraft. This order was completed in 50, and soon VKS contracted another 2020 units. Deliveries ended in XNUMX. It was reported that additional orders could appear in principle.

Since its inception, the Su-35 has been actively promoted on the international market, and in the mid-2015s this process gave its first results. So, at the end of 24, the first foreign order was received. China purchased 2,5 aircraft for a total cost of approx. $2018 billion. The delivery was divided into several batches, the last of which was delivered in the fall of XNUMX.

Su-30SM involved in the Syrian operation

In February 2018, Indonesia ordered 11 aircraft. According to some sources, the delivery of equipment was expected within a year, but this did not happen. Moreover, in 2019-20 the Indonesian side refused to purchase. As reported, the contract was canceled due to pressure from the United States.

A similar situation in the same 2018 developed around another export contract. Egypt placed an order for 24 aircraft, but under pressure from "foreign partners" was forced to abandon it.

In recent years, several countries have been considered as future customers for the Su-35. This is Iran, which has already made its order, as well as India and Malaysia. The latter are still studying the available opportunities and have not decided on a choice. Perhaps contracts with them will appear in the near future.

Thus, to date, only one foreign country has been supplied with Su-35s; 24 aircraft were transferred to her. A new contract was signed with Iran for an unknown number of aircraft. Two more contracts for 35 cars were canceled due to the actions of a third party - in fact, there were attempts at unfair competition and clearing the market for their products. However, the Su-35 remains on the market and may find new buyers.

Upgrade issues

Iran's interest in modern Russian fighters is understandable. The Iranian Air Force has a fairly large tactical aviation - more than 330 aircraft of various types. However, her condition leaves much to be desired. In service there are aircraft of various types, mostly foreign-made, and their average age reaches several decades.

Thus, fighter aviation has at least 70-75 American F-5 aircraft of various modifications. Also in service is approx. 40 old F-14s. The newest fighters can be considered the Russian MiG-29, as well as a few Azarakhsh and Saegeh aircraft of their own construction.

Armed with approx. 30 Su-24 bombers. In a similar role, approx. 60 F-4 fighter-bombers, as well as a number of French Mirage and Soviet Su-22. Some sources mention the presence of a small number of Su-25 or Su-39 attack aircraft, but there is no exact data on them.

In general, the state of the Iranian Air Force is such that any number of any modern aircraft will positively affect the overall situation. In this regard, the consequences of the new contract for the supply of Su-35 fighters are already clear and quite obvious. For the first time in a long time, Iran will receive a significant amount of modern aviation equipment, which will improve the condition of the Air Force.

Su-30SM2 in flight

How many Su-35s Iran has ordered has not yet been reported. It is likely that at the current stage it is planned to re-equip only a few squadrons. Following the completion of the first contract, the Su-35 will take its place in the Iranian Air Force, but so far it will not be able to become their most massive fighter. However, the supply of such equipment may continue under future contracts.

In addition, last year the commander of the Air Force spoke about the possible purchase of Su-30 fighters. In terms of the combination of performance characteristics, such an aircraft is slightly inferior to the newer and more advanced Su-35, but it is cheaper and easier to operate. This means that Iran will be able to purchase more such equipment. Such a purchase will also be useful for the Air Force.

Development of cooperation

Despite the well-known problems and limitations of the past years, Russia and Iran continue and develop cooperation in the military-technical sphere. As reported, in recent months, several new contracts for the supply of various weapons, equipment and products have appeared at once. Of greatest interest is the order for modern Su-35 and Su-30 fighters.

The expected deliveries of Russian aircraft will have a positive impact on the state and capabilities of the Iranian Air Force. In addition, this contract once again shows that the Su-35 multifunctional fighter is of interest to foreign customers and finds its buyer. And he is able to show the desired commercial results even under pressure from third countries, under sanctions and in the presence of other negative factors.

Comments

[andrewkor]

All US-made aircraft in Iran since the time of the Shah and without spare parts that are purchased through various schemes. It is interesting that the F14 appeared in Iran earlier than in the US Navy, they trusted the Shah so much!

[DMFalke]

F14 appeared in Iran earlier than the US Navy

Where is the information from? The US Navy received the first F14s from October 1973 to April 1974. And Iran first arrived in January 1976.

[Silver99]

There is a first-person video on the network, as two pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force who arrived for training on the F-16 speak about the technique and openly say that the SU-27 is much more maneuverable and superior to the American, in particular, they say that "drying" can perform such figures what "f-ke" is simply beyond the power.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The F16 is not actually designed for maneuverable combat, like the rest of the Americans, their task is to launch missiles and escape, so that maneuverability is not so important for them, but this is good for the US Army when it has AWACS, air superiority and you fight against Iraq or Syria, and when you go out on the F16 against the upgraded Su27 or 35, and even having a ground detection system that is much worse than that of the enemy, then it’s better to eject right away, as you will be overwhelmed before you see the enemy at all.

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

So to get away once and for all, you need maneuverability ...
You launch rockets, well, as a rule, from a great height, preferably from a hill at all (above the static ceiling), then, respectively, a turn and a decrease, to a minimum height so that enemy missiles flying in response do not find a target.
Another thing is that the f16 is not an air superiority fighter, but in fact a modern bomber ... In terms of its capabilities, it is most similar to our SU-34. Their strike capabilities are approximately the same, the bomb load is approximately the same, and yes, both aircraft have a radar and can carry modern air-to-air missiles and conduct air combat, but they are most effective for hitting ground / surface targets.
Still, the f-15 is primarily intended for air combat ...
Actually, the popularity of the f-16 is mainly due to the fact that since the end of the 20th century, there have been mainly asymmetric wars (well, except for the Iran-Iraq war, where there were approximately equal rivals), where it was not necessary to conduct an air battle with modern aircraft, but there was a lot of bombing ... And for this, the f-16 is ideal. A small aircraft with a large bomb load and the ability to effectively conduct air combat with 3rd generation aircraft.

[Briz]

f16 is not an air superiority fighter, but in fact a modern bomber ... In terms of its capabilities, it is most similar to our SU-34. Their strike capabilities are approximately the same, the bomb load is approximately the same, and yes, both aircraft have a radar and may well carry modern air-to-air missiles and conduct air combat, but they are most effective precisely for striking ground / surface targets

Yah ! A front-line bomber and an F-16 light fighter are almost the same?!

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

The front-line bomber is a su-24. No one else makes these planes. Both the Su-34 and F-16 are multifunctional fighters. Only more sharpened for strikes on ground targets. And their bomb load in the region of 10 tons is approximately the same.
The Su-34 has no less air combat capabilities than the F-16.
Their sizes differ, but their purpose and combat capabilities are almost identical.

[cold wind]

Quote from Silver99

There's a POV video on the net like two Air Force pilots

Surely you can provide a link to this magical video?

[Hagakure]

Svermanevlennost and maneuverability is the tactics of yesterday. Modern air defense missiles can maneuver with an overload of 60 G. Aircraft 14G. And the maneuverability of Russian 8-9G fighters. Well, the F-16 has 6G. However, both are significantly inferior to missiles and cannot be used for an anti-missile maneuver. Close combat is already archaic. Modern fighter combat is 80-120 km. And then further. What is the maneuverability? And fifth-generation fighters generally implement the sniper's strategy: quietly crept, quietly fired from afar, quietly left. Just like a sniper’s task is to bring a rifle quietly to a position and shoot without being noticed, so here: covertly bring a bullet rocket from a position where they don’t see you or don’t get it, and leave. On the same F-16, as far as I remember, the AIM-120 is installed and this is enough to deal with almost the entire fleet of Russia. And you don't have to turn the turns. If you want to turn turns - go to sports aviation. And now for the fighters, the tasks are different. Technique advances and tactics change accordingly.
I saw the tales of an aging Russian pilot who told me that 20 fighters will fly to 20. Well, yes, the first will be shot down and the rest will fly even if there are five of them, but in close combat they will tear everyone. A beautiful fairy tale, but there is one "but ..." Fighters do not patch up now in such flocks. Four is pretty cool. And so mostly in pairs or one at a time. And enough for a couple of rockets. In general, it was rather strange to hear such tales from an active fighter. And we still do not take possible tactical drawings of a battle with a retreat and an air defense stand.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Hagakure

Aircraft 14G

The same 40-70G, especially the short-range UR.

Quote: Hagakure

And the maneuverability of Russian 8-9G fighters. Well, the F-16 has 6G.

This is with a full bomb load, for work on the ground. And in air combat equipment, both give out 9+ Gs, limited only by the physiology of the pilot.

[Hagakure]

On the first - that's it. Since the latter give out 40-70G, all the more so: what the hell is a maneuverable dogfight.
According to the second, my old reference book issued for the F-16 6G. The Americans generally do not give more than eight Gs for their planes. And that's exactly what is limited by the physiology of the pilot, despite the fact that the emergency load during a helicopter crash is limited for a person 12-14 of these same G. 12G is an astronaut when launching a rocket. The level of natural health and fitness is one in a hundred physically healthy pilots. Therefore, which ones in Figs 9+? And what nafig maneuverable combat? Missiles will maneuver around you as around a standing person. I exaggerate, but the principle does not change.

[AlexTss]

12G is an astronaut when launching a rocket.

When launching 3-4 G, when descending in dense layers of the atmosphere 5-6 G...
10-12 G it was in the era of spherical descent vehicles.
Modern SAs are shaped like a headlight, due to which they have a certain aerodynamic quality, which allows you to choose less "cruel" trajectories of descent from orbit.

[KCA]

The maneuver is simple, Pugachev's cobra, when the plane freezes, the Doppler effect does not work and the GOS loses its target, no 40g turns are needed

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Hagakure

Missiles will maneuver around you as around a standing person. I exaggerate, but the principle does not change.

Don't exaggerate. The future has already arrived yesterday.

[Jorg-2]

Firstly, a lot depends on the pilot, and secondly, I don’t see a loss here. Of course, the maneuvers of the pilot Su are incomprehensible to me - it seems that he constantly tried to merge the position, and did not use the advantage that he clearly had. Despite the fact that the pilot of the 18th constantly repeats the same maneuvers. There was only one dangerous moment. Su's starting positions for attack were almost always as promising as those for his opponent, but in the next maneuver, it seems that he left, losing the initiative. And it all started all over again

[Comet]

Quote: Jorg-2

Firstly, a lot depends on the pilot, and secondly, I don’t see a loss here. Of course, the maneuvers of the pilot Su are incomprehensible to me - it seems that he constantly tried to merge the position, and did not use the advantage that he clearly had. Despite the fact that the pilot of the 18th constantly repeats the same maneuvers. There was only one dangerous moment. Su's starting positions for attack were almost always as promising as those for his opponent, but in the next maneuver, it seems that he left, losing the initiative. And it all started all over again

You didn't pay attention to that. To use the cannon, the aircraft must be in the rear hemisphere of the target at a low angular velocity of the target's line of sight. The camera on the F-18 is oriented towards a part of the front hemisphere. Estimate the time during which the Su-30 was at least just in the field of view of this camera in relation to the duration of the video. This is a miserable time. If the F-18 had also had a camera in the rear hemisphere, then the video from it would have seen the Su-30 hanging on the tail of the F-18 for almost the entire time of this training battle.

Z.Y. And there was no loss. Everything was the opposite. But you correctly noted that the F-18 pilot performs the same maneuvers (or similar ones).

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

Yes and no. "dogfight" is really unlikely and most likely will be a very rare exception.
But anti-missile maneuvers are effective, especially against long-range missiles. First of all, this is a dive and a short flight, although a candle from a MANPADS also takes place ...
The radius and speed of a virad for striking ground targets is also important, and for reaching an air target too. In fact, whoever shoots first is more likely to win.
So better maneuverability is very important...

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Silver99

There is a first-person video on the network, as two pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force who arrived for training on the F-16 speak about the technique and openly say that the SU-27 is much more maneuverable and superior to the American, in particular, they say that "drying" can perform such figures what "f-ke" is simply beyond the power.

Where is the link to the video?

[pilat pontiy]

There is a video, I saw it. I don't think you'll have a hard time finding it.

[And Us Rat]

Quote from pilat pontiy

There is a video, I saw it. I don't think you'll have a hard time finding it.

Not found.

[Nesvoy]

2023, there are still people in all seriousness talking about the dog fight - hand face. When was the last time you saw such a fight, except like in the movies?

[cold wind]

Quote from Nesvoy

2023, there are still people in all seriousness talking about the dog fight - hand face. When was the last time you saw such a fight, except like in the movies?

Uh ... This type of combat is regularly practiced by American fighter pilots. Reports that the United States is not preparing for a dog fight is a myth. About the poor maneuverability of their fighters is just a lie.
Here is an example of a mock battle where an F/A-18D wins 3-0 against a Su-30MKM.

[Alexey RA]

Quote from Nesvoy

2023, there are still people in all seriousness talking about the dog fight - hand face. When was the last time you saw such a fight, except like in the movies?

Somewhere I have already heard it ... oh yes,
1960, there are still people in all seriousness talking about the dog fight - hand face. When was the last time you saw such a fight, except like in the movies?
Just at the beginning of the 60s, the US Navy Fleet Air Gunnery Units and Marine Training Groups, which trained the BVB, were disbanded in the USA - in the name of economy, as unnecessary in the era of the death of classic air combat.
And then I had to fasten the cannon to the Phantom with almost blue electrical tape (by the way, to the MiG-21 too - the USSR also succumbed to fashion) and organize all sorts of courses for improving the skills of pilots.

Ranged combat is good with the complete superiority of one side over the other. Then yes, shooting like a shooting range. As soon as the technical capabilities of the parties are comparable, jokes such as disruption of escort, disruption of guidance, jamming of communications and radar, decoys, etc. immediately begin. And when both sides exhaust their capabilities in technical countermeasures for detection, target designation and guidance, as well as RVV DD and SD, the time comes for BVB.

[bayard]

Quote: Alexey RA

And then I had to fasten the gun to the Phantom with almost blue electrical tape (by the way, to the MiG-21 too

What is most interesting, in Vietnam, the first American supersonic fighters were opposed by subsonic MiG-15 and MiG-17, which imposed BVB and inflicted considerable damage. And all thanks to the simply outstanding maneuverability of the MiG-17. And this is with cannon weapons. It was based on the experience of the Vietnam War that the masterpieces of the 4th generation of the F-15 and F-16 were later created for them and the MiG-29 and Su-27 for us. With outstanding maneuverability and thrust-to-weight ratio close to / more than one, powerful missile weapons and a large number of hardpoints. So it’s too early to write off the maneuverability characteristics as an anachronism, especially for fighters in a stealth configuration, when you can miss / not notice the rapprochement and find yourself nose to nose with the enemy. In Vietnam, after all, it turned out the same way - the explosive missiles were imperfect and, having slipped through the line of meeting with them, the fighters found themselves at a short distance, where the more maneuverable MiG-17s with powerful cannon armament had an advantage. And so guns continue to be installed on all new aircraft, which indicates that close combat in headquarters and design bureaus is remembered and counted on.

[smart ass]

We still comply with UN prohibitions! Everyone pretended that we were different, we are Europeans) now it is clear who we are for the West? Iran immediately needed to supply nuclear technology with both S300 and Su35, and not pursue a toothless foreign policy

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Clever man

Iran immediately had to supply nuclear technology

And then they will be surprised where the nuclear weapons from Ukraine, Poland, Georgia, the tribaltics come from?
Every action has consequences.

[KCA]

What nuclear technologies should Iran supply? They make uranium enrichment centrifuges themselves, something the US hasn't been able to do since the 1940s.

[AC130 Gunship]

It's a good news. And then in the last Topgan they showed that they have F14s refueled and with suspended missiles. Get in and start

[IL-18]

Quote: AC130 Ganship

It's a good news. And then in the last Topgan they showed that they have F14s refueled and with suspended missiles. Get in and start

And where did they get the Su-57 from? Although, Iran has a MiG-28 from the first Topgan

[FoBoss_VM]

The contract with Iran is good. But can the production capacities of the Su35, of which we have one plant, be loaded for the needs of the VKS? Or do we have no losses on planes?

[Belisarius]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

But can the production capacities of the Su35, of which we have one plant, be loaded for the needs of the VKS? Or do we have no losses on planes?

Komsomolsk already makes the Su-35 under the 4th contract with the Moscow Region. Plus Su-57. Another thing is that the volumes are small, but such are the production and capabilities now. The contract with Iran is unlikely to affect them, they will most likely be given the Egyptian sides.
P / S By the way, the losses on the Su-35 so far, pah-pah, are small.

[DMFalke]

We need pilots, there are enough planes for everyone We need young ideological pilots. The plane can be assembled in a month (conditionally), but go and train the pilot, so that he also signs the contract.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote from DMFalke

We need pilots, there are enough planes for everyone We need young ideological pilots .... but go and train the pilot, so that he also signs the contract.

This question must be asked to seniors in the Moscow Region - why do young people sit behind the staff and do not fly? Why is the commissioning process not progressing? Guys walk in a circle PRP and under the belt. I understand that someone needs drag service, but it is necessary to find some kind of reasonable balance: senior officers regularly flying on ordinary tasks are not a sign of the health of the system

[lis-ik]

Quote from DMFalke

We need young ideological pilots.

Ideological is what? Ready to fight for the welfare of the president's friends? Because there is no ideology at the state level, and the NWO is a purely oligarchic war with its strange rules and betrayal at the government level.

[IL-18]

Quote: lis-ik

NWO is a purely oligarchic war with its own strange rules and betrayal at the level of power.

Is there anything in particular?

[whitebeard]

It makes no sense to train new pilots in order to put them on outdated Su-30s and Su-35s, in the presence of Su-57s, which are still not so many to prepare herds of new pilots for them - the old ones will be transferred to the 57s, as they are produced

[Toucan]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

The contract with Iran is good. But can the production capacities of the Su35, of which we have one plant, be loaded for the needs of the VKS? Or do we have no losses on planes?

Iran bought export Su-35SKs built for Egypt after the original customer abandoned them.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The VKS has enough aircraft with a huge supply, at present, the plant is working as long as there are contracts for the production of equipment, we will have time to slap ourselves. The Americans, for example, did the Abrams and that's it, the plant died, there is no more tank production in the USA, as in Britain itself.

[smart ass]

There are no losses because we do not fly over Ukraine

[Georgy Sviridov_2]

There are more aircraft than pilots capable and ready to make sorties.

[Lech from Android.]

The Kremlin needs to look less at the UN Security Council ... and supply weapons to where our interests are.
Iran is definitely in the sphere of our interests.

[Luminman]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Kremlin should look less at the UN Security Council

I'll add - you don't have to look at anyone at all ...

[smart ass]

All this time we mowed under netakusek) but it turns out all this time we have been sitting on the same bench with North Korea and Iran

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Kremlin needs to look less at the UN Security Council ... and supply weapons where our interests are...

...to those whose interests DO NOT COUNTER ours...

Quote: Lech from Android.

Iran is definitely in the sphere of our interests.

Iran is our neighbor in the Caspian and its problems are adequate to ours ...
* * *
My personal opinion is this: the expansion of cooperation between Russia and Iran will make it possible to put a muzzle on the "God's chosen ones" who have become overwhelmed in impunity and lawlessness ... If Ukraine and the United States are their best friends, why can't Russia have Syria and Iran as friends?

[smart ass]

Five years ago, I would have sent fertilizer, grain, and weapons to Iran and sowed Korea. From them geraniums, drones and Kim's special evil special forces

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ROSS 42

will allow you to put a muzzle on the "God's chosen ones" who have grown up in impunity and lawlessness

You're just repeating Brezhnev's words.
History teaches nothing to those whose brains are more occupied with slogans than with logic.
If you seriously think that there is something that can make Israel give up self-defense against Iranian (and any other) aggression, then you are delusional.

[Eug]

Yes, I can imagine how the "chosen ones" will squeal .. and begin to openly supply weapons to Ukraine ..

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Eug

Yes, I can imagine how the "chosen ones" will squeal

They haven’t squealed for 75 years, and suddenly they start? Probably the most hard-headed on the planet has already remembered that Israel is acting in response to threats, and not "squealing".

Quote: Eug

and will openly supply weapons to Ukraine

If Israel would actually supply weapons to Bandera, then this war would be more like the last one in Nagorno-Karabakh.
Rotten Himarsy would seem like flowers if Kiev had received at least a couple of thousand Spike NLOS, able to fly into the tank’s observation periscope 32 km away, to the front line, if anything would reach, then purely by chance, and artillery that did not hit further than 30 km would end in the first month of the war .
Do not wake famously while sleeping quietly. This is precisely why Israel does not give anything to Kyiv, because it can really mess things up, since Israeli weapons are produced for war, and not for parades, and the budget for them is not stolen.

[Belisarius]

With a very high probability they will be given Egyptian boards (already made). So the contract is for 24 aircraft. There are no problems with payment either - they have funds and, most importantly, a lot of what our army needs for barter.
True, alas, they cannot help us in terms of armored vehicles and shells. Iran has no special reserves here. Here only the DPRK and especially the PRC can help.

[Romanovski]

Iran has everything ... Like in Greece .... :-)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Belisarius

With a very high probability they will be given Egyptian boards (already made). So the contract is for 24 aircraft. There are no problems with payment either - they have funds and, most importantly, a lot of what our army needs for barter.

It was this decision that was made after they began to turn up their noses in Egypt ...
The main thing is not to overplay ...

Quote from Romanovski

Iran has everything ... Like in Greece .... :-)

The main thing is that they have an ideology and a development goal (even under the conditions of sanctions) ... Almost, like the DPRK, friendship and cooperation with which the Russian Federation at one time forfeited for the sake of overseas partners ...

[smart ass]

Why do we need to pay money? Let them give away geraniums and drones!

[Iran]

Most likely it will be a barter exchange: we give them planes, they give us their UAVs, electronics, means of combating drones, and so on.

ps If Russia really were preparing for war, and not for victory parades and all sorts of window dressing, then fruitful contacts with Iran could begin long before the war. If anyone is not in the know: Iran produces independently (without dependence on other countries) optics, military electronics, engines for all its UAV lines and much more.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Iran is perhaps the best partner in the military-technical sphere.
Firstly, the Persians are solvent and will always be solvent, the country is rich in raw materials and has guaranteed sales to China. Unlike any Venezuela, Iran is an order of magnitude more stable.
Secondly, Iran has its own development of certain types of weapons in which we are just lagging behind. And it's not just UAVs. Barter and joint work on the creation of new types of weapons are possible here.
And, most importantly, Iran is the gateway to Asia. Through the Caspian Sea, you can carry cargo to the Middle East, India, China. Now we already have joint projects with the Persians, which are underway.
Also, do not discount the border factor. A reliable neighbor is now more important for us than commercial affairs. It is enough to look at the situation in relations with Kazakhstan in order to understand what prospects we will have in the coming years ... The Anglo-Saxons will not leave us alone anyway.

[Zaurbek]

Any neighbor with an independent policy is good for the Russian Federation. Friendly or not, but independent, without the influence of third countries.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

It is necessary to support Iran in every possible way, as a healthy force opposing US hegemony.

[Zaurbek]

Su35S needs to be upgraded with filling from Su57. Cabin, breo, AFAR
You can’t sell a plane without afars to a serious client ..... and it’s better to immediately upgrade the Su30cm and Su35 in the same way.

[Hagakure]

I'm afraid there is no such resource for modernization. And the components for this are most likely imported.

[Zaurbek]

There is a Su57 .... Brains for him will be "cheap" only in mass production. The transfer of "brains" to the 4th generation will give mass character. At the same time, the 4th generation is cheaper to use and maintain. And stealth is not needed in the mass of fighter missions.

[Eug]

It is high time to do this, as for me, the two types should be produced on a single platform, and in terms of avionics they should be as unified as possible with the Su-57, at least for the Russian Aerospace Forces.

[Zaurbek]

I will say more - the cabin should be the same

[whitebeard]

No one will do this, because all this is necessary for the further production of the Su-57. And for the Persians and "as is" the Su-35s and -30s will be quite enough. 57th, we still won’t be able to sell to them, because we ourselves need

[Comet]

Quote: Zaurbek

Su35S needs to be upgraded with filling from Su57. Cabin, breo, AFAR

For what? The air target detection range of the Su-35S radar is greater than that of any current radar with AFAR.

[FRoman1984]

Quote: Zaurbek

Su35S needs to be upgraded with filling from Su57. Cabin, breo, AFAR
You can’t sell a plane without afars to a serious client ..... and it’s better to immediately upgrade the Su30cm and Su35 in the same way.

There is no point and no possibility.
AFAR "Squirrel" is going to the Su-57 and there will not be enough production capacity for the Su-35.
As for the Su-30cm2 - God forbid that it be brought to the Su-35 in the end. All Su-30s in 2022 and 2023 are in the old layout. CBO will adjust all plans for cheaper prices. In January-February, the budget deficit is 5 trillion rubles.

[Zaurbek]

If you look into the future, then the Su35 niche will be occupied by the Su57 ..... and the niche of the rest of the Su34 / 30/24 - by the Su30SMXXX ..... respectively - it will be our longest-lived 4th generation fighter. Both bomber and MiG31 substitute

[Kosh]

The article missed the next point. Sharkhiar Heydari, speaking of deliveries next year, obviously did not mean our year 2024, but the next Iranian year 1402, which they begin in a week.
In Iran, their calendar and the New Year (Novruz) are tied to the spring equinox, and the first day of the next 1402 in Iran will be March 21 according to our calendar.
Accordingly, deliveries of the Su-35 can be expected in the coming months. Moreover, ready-made export cars built for abandoned Egypt are still waiting for a new owner.

[Windsurfer]

speaking of deliveries next year, he obviously meant not our 2024, but the next Iranian year 1402, which they begin in a week.

Just nothing is obvious, as far as one can judge from the text of the news, it was about 2024, and not about 1402.

[Kosh]

No, it was about the beginning of the Iranian year 1402. Iranian officials always use their own calendar and chronology by default, especially since this was said for the Iranian media.
Here I actually found the English version of that news on the website of the original source of the Iranian agency Tasnim:
"Speaking to Tasnim, member of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Shahriar Heidari said the Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets that Iran has ordered from Russia are going to arrive in early 1402 (begins on March 21)."
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/01/15/2837209/iran-to-receive-russian-sukhoi-su-35-jets-in-spring-mp

[shurshun]

No one pressed on Egypt. The Su-35 itself epicly failed the tender, solemnly leaking test air battles to Rafal.

[fima_tut]

One blogger from Poland wrote and away we go .... but yes, there is no pressure, Mistrals to boot.

[Comet]

Oh, another storyteller.

Quote from shurshun

No one pressed on Egypt.

Of course no one pushed...

Quote from shurshun

The Su-35 itself epicly failed the tender, solemnly leaking test air battles to Rafal.

Only now it was impossible to "solemnly merge test air battles to Rafal" due to the lack of "test air battles". In aviation, the term "test air combat" does not exist.

[AlexSam]

Isn't it too early for our leaders from the KLA to bury the MiG-35?

[Vitaly gusin]

Dear Kirill Ryabov!
You reviewed the sale of the SU-35 to Iran. But for some reason, very important details were not disclosed.
1, How many Su-35s ordered by Iran has not yet been reported
The Iranian Defense Minister confirmed that Iran will receive the Su-35SE Flanker-E fighter. The initial order for 24 Su-35SE for the Egyptian Air Force (EAF) will now be transferred to the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF).
2, In February 2018, Indonesia ordered 11 aircraft. According to some sources, the delivery of equipment was expected within a year, but this did not happen.
A similar situation in the same 2018 developed around another export contract. Egypt placed an order for 24 aircraft, but under pressure "foreign partners" was forced to give it up.

Everything is much simpler.
The Egyptians tested the Irbis-E radar (from the Su-35) against the RafaleECM system with an electronically scanned active array and the latter easily outperformed the former. For the same reason, they were not bought in India and Indonesia. India has approximately 200 Su-30 aircraft. MKI is equipped with Israeli electronic warfare systems and advanced LITENING guidance units, French navigation systems, computers of its own production. Therefore, they decided to refrain from this order.
But Egypt and Indonesia were not allowed to do this.

[SergioPetrov]

It's good that none of this happened in reality.

[Vitaly gusin]

.I understand you.
How many do not say halva ... (c)

[Comet]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

The Egyptians tested the Irbis-E radar (from the Su-35) against the RafaleECM system with an electronically scanned active array and the latter easily outperformed the former.

Nothing like this. There were no such tests. By the way, ECM does not mean radar, but electronic warfare ..

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Comet

Nothing like this. There were no such tests. By the way, ECM does not mean radar, but electronic warfare ..

You and I were not present at the tests, so we are on an equal footing. We receive information from open sources.
“The Russian defense industry lost three large orders for its Su-35 fighters at once due to the failure to replace scanned array radar and avionics, which were previously imported from a number of European countries and Israel,”
Yes, I mistranslated RafaleECM and active array radar system

[Comet]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Quote: Comet

Nothing like this. There were no such tests. By the way, ECM does not mean radar, but electronic warfare ..

We were not present at the tests

And there were no tests.

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

therefore we are on an equal footing. We receive information from open sources.
“The Russian defense industry lost three large orders for its Su-35 fighters at once due to the failure to replace scanned array radar and avionics, which were previously imported from a number of European countries and Israel,”
...[/the]

And that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Especially since it's nonsense.

[Diverter]

There is such a country - Algeria. She is armed with a huge amount of our equipment.
I am sure that Iran should become the same country.
(the main thing is not to transfer technology)

[Knell wardenheart]

I welcome our cooperation with the Islamic Republic of Iran, however, the long-term rhetoric typical for this state regarding Israel and often the methods of promoting its projects in the region cause me a number of potential concerns. It would be highly desirable that over time Iran become somewhat less "harsh" on the foreign diplomatic front, because this does not fit well with its probably already thoroughly advanced nuclear program and an accomplished missile program. Any in-depth partnership commitments will be extremely difficult without addressing this factor in the foreseeable future.
That is, Iran will have to "give back" in matters of savoring the destruction of Israel and move on to more delicate work on its regional projects - otherwise we risk suddenly facing another situation that could shake our place in the UN Security Council.

And I repeat once again - I am for good and developing relations with Iran, there are no alternatives to this. A bloc of counterweights to the dominance of the "Western model" should form in Eurasia, and Iran is an integral part of such a bloc, just like us. However, for such a success, Iran will have to make sacrifices and become more flexible.

[garik77]

After Israel agreed to supply its xoxlam early warning systems, Russia no longer had any deterrents to supply modern weapons to Iran. Well, it's their choice!

[ilpine]

Any major deal is like an iceberg, at the top of which you can only see the number of aircraft, the delivery time, and often the total amount of the contract. Much more interesting is the non-monetary part of the contract, so it will be interesting to know (someday). But, the deal itself is positive and enhances Iran's ability to counter the US. Which is good too.

[Comet]

There is a first-person video on the network, as two pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force who arrived for training on the F-16 speak about the technique and openly say that the SU-27 is much more maneuverable and superior to the American,

This has long been known. The F-16 is heavy for its wing.

in particular, they say that "drying" can perform such figures that "f-ke" simply cannot do.

Perhaps they found in the RLE of these F-16s a ban on crossing control at an overload of more than 5.

Modern air defense missiles can maneuver with an overload of 60 G.

More precisely, they can reach this overload in the process of maneuvering. But in the dense layers of the atmosphere at the maximum speed in these layers of the atmosphere and with a rapid loss of speed. As the speed decreases or the flight altitude increases, the overload that the SAM can reach decreases. The same is true for URVV. The anti-missile maneuver is aimed at increasing the dynamic error of the missile's guidance and the missile's approach to the target from angles that are "inconvenient" for the warhead of the missile. The more dynamic (and "chaotic") the target's motion parameters change, the greater the dynamic missile guidance error. And when using super-maneuverability, chaff and IR traps also begin to work very well.

And in air combat equipment, both give out 9+ G

Only at different instrument speeds. Whoever has a smaller instrument has a higher angular rate of turn. And from the 4th generation, it is just the Su-27 that is smaller. Of the 4th, the Su-27 has the most advanced aerodynamics. And on the Mirage 2000, it is impossible to reach overload 9 during combat maneuvering.

[Gerurd]

Fishlessness and cancer.
*And I am writing this text so that the comment is published

[George Sviridov]

In dryers, it is important which missiles will be delivered with them ... And which bombs. If there are large-scale deliveries of modern missiles and bombs, then this is really the best aircraft in the world. If the supply of modern weapons will either not be carried out or will be severely limited, then the aircraft will be more for prestige.