Civilian radio stations (walkie-talkies) in the NWO zone

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Civilian radio stations (walkie-talkies) in the NWO zone

The problem of providing communications is one of the main ones in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces). Communication for each fighter at the level of squad-platoon-company-battalion in the first Chechen war could only be dreamed of, and in the second too. During the war on 08.08.08, many people remember when the commanders of high-ranking Russian units had to use cellular communications.

Despite the measures taken to equip the RF Armed Forces with modern means of communication, they are still lacking in the troops, including in the zone of the special military operation (SVO). In addition to the RF Armed Forces, in the zone of the NMD there are also militia detachments of the Donbass and Luhansk People's Republics (DNR, LNR), employees of the private military company (PMC) "Wagner", who initially used civilian means of communication, and with the beginning of the NMD, they all began to feel lack of means of communication.




There are not enough army fancy radio stations for everyone. Photo: vitalykuzmin.net

As a result, civilian portable (portable) radio stations (walkie-talkies) are sent en masse by volunteers to the front line, since at least some communication is better than its complete absence. Walkie-talkies are purchased by volunteers, both individuals and organizations. At the same time, sometimes you can notice a situation where walkie-talkies purchased by seemingly respected communities cost twice as much as they are sold in chain stores. Yes, and according to the characteristics of the radio stations supplied to the front line, they can vary significantly.

Let's try to figure out which civilian walkie-talkies fall into the NWO zone, what are their advantages and disadvantages when used on the battlefield.

Let's make a reservation right away - the civilian radio communications market in Russia is a benefit of Chinese radio stations in the widest possible price range. Before the start of the CBO, American and Japanese products were also sold in the professional segment, but now their market share will steadily decline.

Distinctive features, advantages and disadvantages


Civilian radio stations are different - they differ in price, workmanship, battery capacity, protection from external influences, transmitter power, sensitivity, operating wavelength range for receiving and transmitting, as well as many other parameters.

Considering civilian radio stations, several main selection criteria can be distinguished.

Analog and digital radios


Everything is clear here, analog civilian radio stations can be listened to by any similar radio station or radio receiver that receives in the wavelength range used.

It is almost impossible to close information in civilian analog radio stations from listening. Theoretically, so-called "scramblers" - speech maskers can be used in analog walkie-talkies, but in practice, to ensure communication, the same type of scrambler must be installed on all used radio stations, which is physically impossible in the CBO zone, and the quality of "closing" speech in analog scramblers are small - in fact, they only distort the voices of subscribers.

It will not be possible to listen to a digital radio station with an ordinary radio receiver, however, if the enemy has a walkie-talkie that supports a similar data transfer protocol, this is often quite realistic. The basic encryption keys used with a length of 8/16 bits - consider that there is no encryption at all, extended encryption keys with a length of 40 bits are also quite vulnerable to hacking. For reliable protection, 128-256-bit encryption is required, which is not available in all digital radio stations.

Protection against interference, including from electronic warfare (EW)


The resistance of radio stations to interference is determined by the circuitry solutions implemented in them. Two main implementation options can be distinguished - direct conversion radio receivers and superheterodyne radio receivers (superheterodynes) of single or double frequency conversion. Superheterodyne radios have much better noise immunity.

It is also believed that pseudo-random frequency hopping (PRFC) provides high noise immunity, when radio stations change their frequency during radio exchange (about 100–20 times per second), but the author did not have to deal with PRFC on civilian models.

Transmitter power


For most civilian models, it is in the region of 5 W, which is often quite enough; for some models of portable radio stations, the transmitter power reaches 10 W, which allows you to slightly increase the communication range - it should be borne in mind that the communication range does not increase in proportion to the increase in radio transmitter power. By the way, in most Chinese radio stations, the declared power of 5 W is most often close to the real one, but when the Chinese say 8–10–15 W, then you already have to look here, in the cheapest models, increased power is not provided.

Also, the transmitter power is not the same for different wavelength ranges on which a particular radio station can radiate - depending on the selected frequency, it can drop up to two times from the maximum (the wider the frequency range of the radio station used for transmission, the higher the likelihood that in some areas the power of operation radio station will be significantly lower than stated).


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frequency range


In general, radio stations on the civilian market operate in the VHF 136-174 MHz (two-meter band) and / or UHF 400-470 MHz (75 cm band). There are also civilian radio stations in the CB band (27 MHz), but they are rarely used in portable form - mainly as car radio stations, since at a wavelength of 11 meters it is difficult to make a compact and efficient antenna.

Despite the fact that single-band VHF or UHF radios are most often more efficient than dual-band ones, the choice of dual-band VHF + UHF, according to the author, will be more justified, since the drop in performance relative to single-band radios is insignificant, and it is not known at what frequencies communication will be built in each case - it is better to have several antennas for them for different conditions and ranges.

On the other hand, you should not get carried away searching for tri-band radio stations or radio stations with any extended range (for example, UHF 400-512 MHz) - you should not hope that by organizing communication in a wavelength range inaccessible to most radio stations, you will be able to hide from enemy wiretapping – Wideband SDR receivers will pick up your frequency in a fraction of a second.

Sometimes the opinion is expressed that civilian radio stations are superior to army ones in terms of communication range. One of the reasons for this, according to a number of experts in the field of radio communications, is the use of broadband non-resonant antennas with army radios that can operate in a wide range of wavelengths, for example, from 33 to 527 MHz. The problem is that a non-resonant antenna is always inferior to a narrow-band resonant antenna tuned to a specific band - Low Band (30-50 MHz), VHF (136-174 MHz) or UHF (400-512 MHz). Thus, by installing a resonant antenna on an army radio station, it is possible to significantly increase its communication range in the selected range.

Battery capacity


Here it is quite possible to run into obvious exaggerations of the manufacturer, however, almost always the accuracy of the declared characteristics is often directly proportional to the price category of the radio station. For popular models, there are high-capacity batteries, adapters for working from a car battery, battery boxes for working with AA / AAA batteries.

Digital radios often consume much more power than analog radios, which must be taken into account when choosing digital radios with low battery capacity.

Protection from external influences


If we talk about solutions of the lower and middle price range, then it is better to use a case, since protection from external influences in them can be very conditional, even if it is declared - the volume of the speaker, which seems to be protected according to the IP-67 standard of the radio station, can easily decrease after it even in light rain. Of course, there are no such problems in professional civilian models, but the high cost is unlikely to make sending them to the front mass.

Professional or amateur radio stations


Here we are not talking about cost, but about the possibility of full control of the radio station from the keyboard, including direct frequency entry. It is believed that in professional radio stations the frequencies are programmed in advance, and then the user can only select one of the programmed channels with a rotary encoder.

It is possible that when it comes to some kind of construction site, some kind of industrial facility, then such a solution is optimal, but in relation to the war zone, the use of radio stations without the possibility of directly entering the frequency from the keyboard, as well as entering other settings, is hardly advisable .

Let us consider in more detail some models of civilian radio stations that fall or may fall into the NWO zone.

Again, let's make a reservation right away that we will consider only radio stations of the lower and middle price range (lowest - up to 10 rubles, middle - up to 000 rubles; it is clear that for 30-000 thousand rubles you can buy good professional-level radio stations Motorola or Hytera, but few people have the opportunity to purchase them both for themselves and as assistance to fighters in the NWO zone.In addition, there are rumors that the Americans have “master keys” for Motorola radios that level any encryption.

Given the specifics of China as a state, it can be assumed that their equipment also has "secret passages" for Chinese special services. But with regard to civilian radio stations, there is one nuance, as they say, "Russia will respond to any of your tricks with its unpredictable stupidity" - they have not yet worked with China. So many radio stations are being produced, models and firmware are changing so quickly, how many “jambs” are in them, that it is most likely almost impossible to isolate vulnerabilities in them, to bring them into a system. While you break one station, the Chinese will release a dozen new radio stations and a hundred new firmware - which ones will fall into the NWO zone, which ones to break, which ones not, which vulnerabilities remain, which ones are closed - the devil himself will break his head.

Analog radios


One of the most common walkie-talkies on the market are Baofeng radios and perhaps the most famous and widespread of them are Baofeng UV-5R radios. These radios are built on the principle of direct conversion, the declared power of 5 watts is most often maintained, although sometimes there is a feeling that these walkie-talkies are made in several different industries, as a result of which their quality and characteristics can walk.

Strangely, the author has seen posts in telegram channels about raising funds for CBO for the purchase of Baofeng UV-5R radio stations at a price of 4 rubles apiece, although even in Russian online stores and marketplaces they are sold at a price of about 000 rubles, and in bulk from China they can be ordered at about half the price.


Here it is dear - Baofeng UV-5R radio station

There is a UV-8R version with allegedly increased power to 8 W, but, according to the results of measurements by many users in the Russian segment of the Internet, there is still the same 5 W transmitter. There is also a tendency for the quality of the UV-5R family of radios to deteriorate, for example, the metal chassis was gradually replaced by a plastic one - a consequence of production optimization.

If we consider the lower price range, then, according to the author, it makes sense to pay attention to the QUANSHENG UV-R50 model. This radio station is based on Baofeng UV-5R solutions, however, the circuitry has been slightly redesigned, band-pass filters are installed at the signal input, which allows to slightly improve noise immunity, the chassis has remained (at the moment) metal. And the quality of QUANSHENG radio stations, according to personal experience and according to Russian users, is one of the best for its price segment. At the same time, their cost is only a few hundred rubles higher than that of Baofeng UV-5R.

What is the advantage of radio stations of the Baofeng UV-5R family is the huge number of firmware and accessories produced for them. By the way, not all of them will be compatible with the QUANSHENG UV-R50, and the firmware is not 100% compatible, however, in the CBO zone, it most likely does not make much sense to flash analog radio stations.


QUANSHENG UV-R50

A more preferred choice are radios with a superheterodyne radio. There are very few such radios in the low price segment, one of the best options is, again, the QUANSHENG radio station, model TG-UV2 PLUS with a power of 10 watts. Its cost is about three times higher than that of the previously reviewed Baofeng UV-5R / QUANSHENG UV-R50 radios, but the improved characteristics in terms of communication range and noise immunity justify this.


QUANSHENG model TG-UV2 PLUS

The author is in no way associated with QUANSHENG or its representatives, and has not received any remuneration in any form from them.

According to the author, it probably no longer makes sense to acquire / send analog radio stations of a higher class and cost to the NWO zone - they will not provide a radical increase in performance, if funds allow, digital radio stations can be considered.

Digital radio stations


There are two problems with digital radios.

The first is that almost all inexpensive digital radio stations are built using direct conversion, that is, no superheterodynes, which means that their noise immunity is minimal: it seems like the Chinese put filters in more expensive models that slightly improve noise immunity.

The second problem is that the encryption of digital radio stations from some manufacturers is not always compatible with the encryption of radio stations from other manufacturers, even though they formally work within the same digital communication protocol. Moreover, even from the same manufacturer, radio stations of different lines may not provide encrypted communication with each other.

One of the simplest and most inexpensive solutions, one might say, an entrance ticket to the world of digital radio communications, is the Baofeng DM-1801 digital radio station with a transmitter power of 5 W and the ability to directly enter the frequency from the keyboard. Not only the noise immunity of this radio station is under question, but also its ability to encrypt communication channels.


The advantage of Baofeng DM-1801 is a black-and-white display that is perfectly readable during the day without backlighting - in pursuit of fashion, contrary to common sense, radio manufacturers everywhere put color displays that are characterized by increased power consumption, the impossibility of working without backlighting and unreadability in bright sunlight

A little higher level are radio stations such as Retevis RT-3S, also known as TYT DM-UV380 / DM-UV390 (the latter has a waterproof case). These radios may be equipped with a GPS receiver.


Radio stations Retevis RT-3S, TYT DM-UV380, TYT DM-UV390

The Retevis RT-3 DMR radio station stands apart. This model is available in the VHF or UHF bands and has a superhet at the input, at least it was before - the Chinese can sometimes change the contents without changing the product designation. If the superheterodyne is retained as part of this radio, then it should be one of the most interference-resistant digital radios in the middle price range.


Digital radio station Retevis RT-3 DMR with a superheterodyne radio receiving path (of course, if the manufacturer has not made changes to the design without changing the model name)

Digital radio stations with AES 256-bit encryption provide maximum protection against enemy listening. These include, for example, RETEVIS Ailunce HD1 DMR and Zastone UV008. Both of these radios are based on RDA chip with direct frequency conversion, the maximum transmitter power is 10W. Both radios are fully protected against dust and moisture according to the IP67 standard.

According to reviews, the RETEVIS Ailunce HD1 DMR radio station has a slightly worse sensitivity in analog and digital modes compared to the Retevis RT-3S radio station, but rather stable developing firmware and good manufacturer support. The Zastone UV008 radio station is still new and rather “raw”, with a number of software and, possibly, hardware flaws.


RETEVIS Ailunce HD1 DMR and Zastone UV008 radios with 256-bit encryption

Please note that AES 265-bit encryption will most likely not work when communicating using radios from different manufacturers.

The pinnacle of relatively inexpensive digital radios with AES 256-bit encryption are the Anytone AT-D878UV plus / Anytone AT-D878UV II plus radios, whose parameters are comparable to Motorola radios, which are several times more expensive. Transmitter power 7 W, GPS, direct frequency conversion, but it seems there are some filters at the receiver input.


Anytone AT-D878UV II plus radio station

Russian manufacturers of civil radios


They exist. It seems that KB Berkut releases its radio stations entirely in Russia. But their portable radios operate in the CB band (27 MHz) - the debate about whether it is possible to get an acceptable communication range in this range with a compact antenna, apparently, will go on for a long time, nevertheless, the Berkut portable radios are widely used have not received. They are analog, there is no encryption in them.

Radiotekhnika LLC is promoting its network radio communication protocol called "Wave Network". In it, user radio stations provide relaying of up to eight signals of other subscribers, building a self-sustaining distributed network - traffic can be split along the way to the recipient between random nodes, 56-bit encryption is used.

The operating frequency range of the Wave Network system is 868,7–869,2 MHz. Due to the extremely low transmitter power - about 25 mW, the cells of the "wave network" are difficult to find direction, but low power has a downside - in the absence of repeaters, the communication range will be small. Some Russian Internet blogs talk about the successful application of the "Wave Network" in the LPR.

Most of the other Russian walkie-talkie manufacturers produce their products in Chinese factories with OEMs. Often there are practically no differences from Chinese counterparts, only the price is higher. Sometimes the menu is Russified.

It is possible that someone goes further, developing their own circuit solutions (which the Chinese will then copy), but there is much less information about Russian radio stations, especially digital ones, than about Chinese, Japanese and American ones.

Conclusions


Communication is extremely important in a war zone. No communication - and the war can be lost, despite the presence of any other modern weapons. There is a connection - but it is easily found and listened to by the enemy, and this can be worse than a complete lack of communication.

The civilian radio stations considered in this material will in no way replace modern army radio stations, but they can supplement them where there are physically no army radio stations.

Analog radio stations can be used in the rear, at a distance of about 20 kilometers from the enemy - there is also a need for radio communications. With the use of code tables and wise use of short passes, they can be used cautiously on the front line - but in general this is a bad decision. Analog radios can also be used as a last resort in certain critical situations.

Digital radios, especially those with serious encryption on board, can also be used on the front line. Of course, the lack of a frequency hopping mode simplifies their direction finding by the enemy, but options are also possible here - short radio exchange sessions, changing positions, brought out a few tens of meters towards the antenna.

Potentially, it is even possible to provoke the enemy to strike at a place where, in fact, there will be only a Chinese antenna for 500 rubles, to open his artillery positions and then strike with the Lancet or organize the useless waste of expensive Hymars by the enemy - after all, such radio games were conducted warring parties already at the dawn of the advent of radio communications.

At the very least, it is good that there are quite modern and effective solutions on the civilian market that allow relatively quickly providing communications to volunteer battalions, PMCs, and, if necessary, the RF Armed Forces.
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  1. +9
    23 February 2023 04: 50
    You can buy Shenzhen Hytera, this company is still under US sanctions, and the price is definitely more expensive than civilians.
    1. +5
      23 February 2023 04: 58
      https://www.hytera.com/ru/home.html
      1. 0
        24 February 2023 14: 04
        As a result of the exercises:
        tankers - reward
        artillerymen - to award
        signalmen - do not punish
  2. The comment was deleted.
  3. +10
    23 February 2023 06: 02
    Article och. GOOD.

    The author is not strong in TERTS, does not know what a superheterodyne receiver is, but article ok. useful, even for general development.

    All sold walkie-talkies (including radios) are superheterodyne.
    This is due to the fact that at IF - intermediate frequencies (lower frequencies from the main receive signal) the signal is most amplified.
    These are features of semiconductors and radio tubes, the higher the signal frequency, the lower the gain of the device.
    Direct amplification receivers - amplify signals only at the main signal reception frequency, without the use of frequency generators (local oscillator, GFC, etc.), which reduce the frequency of the received signal. The scheme is cheaper and only for receiving a signal in the city.
    It's easier - I tied the speaker to the battery and an external antenna - here's a direct gainless receiver for you ...
    1. +3
      23 February 2023 10: 32
      Direct amplification receivers - amplify signals only at the main frequency of signal reception

      The author writes not about direct amplification receivers, but about direct conversion receivers.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Радиоприёмник_прямого_преобразования
      And they have a local oscillator, only the signal is converted not to the IF, but immediately to a low one, and the amplification is carried out at a low frequency, and not at an intermediate one.
      There are two main implementation options - direct conversion radio receivers and superheterodyne radio receivers (superheterodynes) of single or double frequency conversion.
    2. +7
      23 February 2023 13: 24
      This is due to the fact that at IF - intermediate frequencies (lower frequencies from the main receive signal) the signal is most amplified.

      These Russians are strange people. Frequency conversion to intermediate is used not for sensitivity, but for receiver selectivity. Super-regenerative receivers had excellent sensitivity and poor selectivity.
      What does the conversion to a low fixed IF give? That's right, a narrower bandwidth. The lower the frequency, the narrower with the same quality factor of the circuits band. However, here a bug pops up from the side - a mirror frequency. And you can cut it off only in the preselector (UHF). The paradox turns out - the IF should be made as small as possible for the sake of selectivity and at the same time as much as possible for the sake of cutting off mirror noise.
      So they came up with - first, the first conversion to a large first IF (cutting off the DSLR with a preselector circuit), then the second low IF - the main selectivity
      As an example, in radiotelephones of the mid-90s, the carrier is 31, 40 MHz, the first IF is 46 MHz, the second IF is 49 kHz.
      Perhaps it will fit students to understand the idea and "mechanics". Don't swim in your receiver exams.
  4. -2
    23 February 2023 06: 11
    The article is good, I confirm, mostly used baufengs bought for their own. Bala, of course, a system of radio stations - I'll call them "green boxes" but they were not used for a number of reasons, which we will not talk about for now either. If it was possible to take captured motorolas, they could also be left in the unit, having previously demolished their "wiring" for alteration. According to the Baufengs, it happened on an arbitrary frequency scan that the enemy’s wave was manually found, it was possible to listen to their negotiations, probably they are also ours. Therefore, it is imperative to use codes and negotiation tables. change them periodically. Of the specific jokes: in the negotiation tables "enemy infantry" - "lip-slaps" "devils" "men supporter of same-sex love", "enemy infantry hidden in a forest plantation" - "insects in intimate places" and so on there m the whole system was ...
  5. +7
    23 February 2023 06: 13
    Only yesterday, messengers, flags, shouting to the point of hoarseness are long gone. As they say, communication is everything. But with all this, to be honest, there have always been problems. In my time, a well-functioning R-126 for a platoon commander, R-105/107 for a company commander, and R-123 for an armored personnel carrier (BMP) already solved many problems. But even in that Soviet time, communication problems were through the roof. What can we say about today. I would very much like to hope that these problems in the troops will nevertheless be resolved and finally resolved.
    1. +2
      23 February 2023 10: 40
      well-functioning R-126 at the platoon

      The favorite radio station of the Soviet film paratroopers, on which they managed to listen to Pugachev :)) On a kulikovka one and a half meters long.
    2. +1
      23 February 2023 18: 24
      When did you serve? My relative at 76-78 was already running with the R-148, he was also familiar with the R-147. True, there were few of them then. Both R-107 and R-107M were used as headquarters - these are completely different devices in terms of components. R-105M were for everyday training, R-105D - for practicing electronics repair skills. Everything - from his words
  6. +14
    23 February 2023 06: 51
    KCPN has been explaining for half a year that radio networks are built "from base stations and repeaters, and not from portables." "For eight years, the troops of the RF Armed Forces have been supplied with the Azart complex, devoid of a relay base, with a range of up to 4 km, on which it is impossible to build a full-fledged communication system, because the walkie-talkies that are required for installation as repeaters have to be taken from people at the forefront."
    "R-187V" - the basic-portable version of the "Azart", which were stolen from the "Azart" project and the deliveries of which to the army, scanty in volume, began only before the NWO itself.
    A year later, someone suggested to the generals about repeaters that the Ministry of Defense was buying 6 Chinese Kirisun portable digital radio stations already complete with repeaters.
    1. +1
      24 February 2023 11: 36
      And who KTsPN interfered and is preventing you from making repeaters for Azartam from a PC?
      https://exponenta.ru/tetra/ или
      https://github.com/osmocom/osmo-tetra https://youtu.be/Oq_1x-Y3aaI
      They charge our programmers for artbooks and charge 1 rubles for one installation. And what's stopping you? Excitement is SDR radio on FPGA. In the PC format, it is repeated at a time.
    2. +1
      24 February 2023 11: 42
      Concerning kirisun - and where it is possible to read about repeaters? On the contrary, I came across news that they bought naked portables. The same rake as with Azzart
  7. +9
    23 February 2023 07: 07
    Radio was invented by Popov .. China makes .. Well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t ... Theorists are a dime a dozen, but practitioners - no one wants to work for a penny .. Our bureaucrats will not understand in any way .. They are doing well .. And with a salary and pension .. Why do they need the problems of others ..
  8. +5
    23 February 2023 08: 09
    I liked the article.
    Thanks to the author!
  9. +9
    23 February 2023 09: 15
    Conclusions
    Communication is critical in a war zone

    Conclusions should follow about those people who brought the situation to such a state. And the conclusions should be tough.
    1. +4
      23 February 2023 10: 14
      If a very limited vocabulary is used in communication in very short messages, then this, in principle, allows using compression to reduce the duration of the transmission to values ​​that make it almost impossible to detect it with a broadband scanner
      1. +2
        23 February 2023 13: 18
        If it comes to that, then "portables" should be able and able to work as modems, for receiving and transmitting information from tablets and even smartphones. And encryption of information transmitted via modems should be carried out already on terminal devices, tablets and servers. Transferring messages in encrypted form via modems will take even less time, and can be included in ACS (automated control systems).
      2. 0
        14 June 2023 00: 09
        If the communication uses a very limited vocabulary in very short messages
        They don't text each other. What's the difference what kind of vocabulary is there and from what words? It is necessary to transmit a certain frequency spectrum (300-3000 Hz). And the spectrum is completely on the side of what words there will be.

        by applying compression to shorten the duration of the transmission
        Compression is applied so that the transmitted spectrum is not wide, not short.
    2. +11
      23 February 2023 11: 44
      Quote: Million
      Conclusions should follow about those people who brought the situation to such a state. And the conclusions should be tough

      There were no conclusions and will not be ...
      -When the Soviet army participated in the war in Afghanistan, it turned out that dushmans have much better portable radio stations than SA.
      - Chechnya, the same
      - The war in Georgia in August 2008, among other things, demonstrated the catastrophic problems of the Russian army with communications. Some units were actually deprived of the opportunity to communicate with the command, instead of army radios, mobile phones and even "courier mail" were used. An officer of the headquarters of the Airborne Forces flew around the landing units in a helicopter, landed and personally set tasks.

      In 2009, Yevgeny Meichik, at that time the head of the signal troops and deputy chief of the General Staff, stated that
      under the direction of personally by the Minister of Defense, at the direction of the President of the Russian Federation approaches to the organization of the entire management system and, in particular, the communication system, were completely revised. By the end of 2011, we plan to bring the radio station to every soldier, to each combat vehicle
      - added the general.
      domestic radio stations based on the 65-nm processor NPO Angstrem”, which in the future should replace all the means of communication currently available in the army, will be tested in the large-scale military exercises “Kavkaz-2012”
      , reported in the Main Directorate of Communications of the Armed Forces of Russia

      So many years have passed...
      2015 Stolen during the technical re-equipment of the Voronezh Research Institute of Electronic Technology (NIIET), which is part of the Sozvezdie concern, employees of the TFR in the Voronezh region are looking for 92 million rubles. A criminal case, the traces of which lead to Moscow and Germany ..
      2019 Colonel-General Khalil Arslanov, the head of the communications troops, who is also the deputy chief of the General Staff, was charged (under part 4 of article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) with involvement in the theft of 2,2 billion rubles

      2021 criminal case on alleged fraud for 6,7 billion rubles. when deliveries to the armed forces of Russia of radio stations R-187-P1 "Azart", not only the investigating body changed, but also the direction of the investigation.

      How do you think Leonid Reiman (NPO Angstrem) + Rogozin (vice prime minister in charge of the defense industry complex, lover of Khokhloma painting) and Serdyukov (defense minister, lover of money and Vasilyeva) could save the communications of the RF Armed Forces?


      1. +2
        24 February 2023 12: 24
        You criticize that Seryukov for gambling will put a monument. After all, he, like Peter I, brought potatoes / Excitement (radio stations of the 6th generation) to Russia / the Army.
        Let's talk about it and it turns out that Gambling is like the appearance of printing in Russia.
        Critics of Gambling about Gambling know like children about the device of a smartphone. The problem was not with Serdyukov, but with the owner of Angstrem, who could not find money to launch the factory bought from AMD in 2008, and when he found it, he already A) was not the Minister of Communications B) The United States imposed sanctions and 65 nm process technology was not allowed to be imported to Russia . 65 nm is not taken from the air, they need to be bought. In the Russian Federation, there is still no working 65 nm process technology, and Serdyukov or Rogozin are not involved here. In business, the owner of Micron, who received billions of rubles under 65 nm, reported that he had mastered the technical process, and now he says that NO, these were test chips. But no one will send OMON to Mikron, because it is useless from this that 65 nm will not appear in the Russian Federation, and the only relatively mass production at 90 nm can be ruined.
        For people who think they understand the radio business, I advise you to check your knowledge in the context of gambling at the link: https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tetra-kit-a-new-open-source-tetra-decoder/
        If someone understands what is written there, then you can start discussing the problems associated with revolutionary gambling.

        Gambling (wearable) actually has global / world coverage in the right hands
        1. +2
          24 February 2023 14: 23
          Quote: Sergey Venediktov
          You will be criticized that a monument will be erected to Seryukov for gambling. After all, he is like Peter I potatoes / Azarty (radio stations of the 6th generation)

          - Serdyukov should not erect a monument, but reserve a place in one institution
          Peter1 brought Russia 1 bag of potatoes, which disappeared happily in the vastness of Mother Russia.
          under Catherine II in 1765, she issued a special decree, according to which a new culture began to be imported from abroad and distributed throughout the country.

          Quote: Sergey Venediktov
          and when he found it already A) was not the Minister of Communications B) The United States imposed sanctions and 65 nm process technology was not allowed to be imported to Russia

          sanctions and could not import happened in 2022, in May, it seems

          VEB's credit line for 815 million euros was opened in 2008 (then 54% of Angstrem-T belonged to Angstrem JSC) for the purchase of equipment, technologies and the creation of a new plant for chip production 130 and 110 nm technologies

          Angstrem-T in 2016 belonged to the Cypriot Runica Investments, and it belonged first to the Angstrem Group (then owned by Reiman), then to Alternative Capital, which Reiman still owns.
          Quote: Sergey Venediktov
          For people who think they understand

          I repeat, I don’t understand, but I don’t see any connection between m / y "Azart" and trunking radio communications, which
          ruyu uses the subway, ambulance and the Ministry of Emergencies ....
          Quote: Sergey Venediktov
          Gambling (wearable) actually has a global / world

          I didn't understand the idea very well.
          in this way "in the right hands" and TA - 57 will have a global connection.
          FLTSATCOM is essentially a satellite receiver. All you need: a transceiver and an antenna with right circular polarization

          + to know the input frequencies.
          (Note. In Russia, the law does not prohibit listening at these frequencies, but I categorically do not recommend emitting: term)

          Using the APRS protocols, you can broadcast GPS coordinates and text messages, and transmit images via HF-FAX or SSTV.
    3. +5
      23 February 2023 19: 55
      Quote: Million
      Conclusions should follow about those people who brought the situation to such a state. And the conclusions should be tough.

      They won't give up theirs.
      "Senior ordered" ... ©
  10. +3
    23 February 2023 10: 35
    There is such a r / s Baikal-35, power 10 W, 136-174 MHz analog + digital, there is a scrambler, waterproof, but the price ... 15 tr! Yes, normal
    1. 0
      24 February 2023 12: 33
      scrambler is better than nothing, it's not encryption.
  11. +2
    23 February 2023 10: 52
    The article is interesting, respect to the author. Although, for comparison, one could cite options with other r / st, not only China operates in this market.
    1. -1
      23 February 2023 10: 54
      Z.Y. Concerning interception/decryption. There is such a wonderful thing as a "code" of conditional expressions. "It can be changed periodically - let them guess.
      1. +4
        23 February 2023 12: 53
        Quote: TermNachTER
        There is such a wonderful thing as a "code" of conditional expressions. "It can be changed periodically - let them guess.

        the trouble is, only on both sides, they know about the "vault", the roots of the army and the armed forces on both sides are the same: the SA of the USSR.
        i speak almost the same language, and think.
        And this idea is as old as the gospel.
        For the first time, the idea of ​​using Indian languages ​​to send encrypted messages was tested back in the First World War, when eight members of the Choctaw tribe served in the European theater of operations.

        In 1942, the Navajo tribe numbered about 50 thousand people; their language is unusually difficult to learn and, moreover, during the war years was unwritten.

        The Navajos ("regiment") served in the Korean War and, briefly, in the Vietnam War.
        But this is such an antediluvian and shameful method 9 for an energy superpower) and very slow.
        --------------
        This is how fighters who are in the gray zone will receive a "periodic shift" in rad silence mode.
        Or the same Azov people who were sitting in the Azov steel bunkers will receive a new package of ciphers for communication.
        ?
        use "encryption pads" in the 21st century belay
        sur ... Rogozin will not let you lie
        1. +1
          23 February 2023 13: 44
          There are much easier methods to use, not to implement of course. The radio station must be used as a low-speed modem for transmitting and receiving digital messages. For example, you can say a voice message to a smartphone, which will translate the message into text, the text is verified, sent in encrypted form by a smartphone (tablet), and on the opposite side it is decoded and voiced by the voice of "Alice". So it turns out briefly, reliably and secretly. The system for encoding, encrypting and transmitting passwords is another system that can be designed separately. All this has long been invented, tested and may well be applied.
          1. +1
            23 February 2023 14: 25
            I know I gave as an example.
            in the RF Armed Forces like this
            https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12200524%40cmsArticle
            (broadcasts the hero of the criminal case)
            On February 7, 2020, he was detained by FSB officers during the investigation on this charge. The court took Arslanov into custody for a period of 2 months, later the term of detention was extended. On April 3, 2020, he was removed from office.
            / why does he hang on the website of the RF Ministry of Defense - xs. Android knows it

            Since you are leading:
            - an increase in power consumption (the operating time of the AK is reduced)
            - there will be a delay, not real-time
            - it will be bad if it hits the enemy
            ---------------------------------
            yes, it's all made up
            -combat control radio networks

            - district public communication system
            -complex distributed data system
            - live broadcast system


            Satellite communications are widely used in the radio networks of combat control, which has now been extended to the brigade and artillery battalion. It is organized by deploying multi-channel communication lines based on light transportable stations.
            And in my opinion they have introduced IP telephony, but this is not accurate

            2022: 3 ASOS, 5 ASOS, 25 ASOS and 194th ASOG/116th ASOS are testing a proposed redesign of the TACP unit type code and digital communications structure to transfer situational awareness and targeting information between multiple nodes on the battlefield.

            Here is this aunt US Air Force Staff Sgt. Reanne Metzger.
            Sergeant, simply

            USAF 1st Lt. Eric Sanderson (left): Tactical Air Control Team Officer, 13th Air Support Squadron, and Senior Pilot Sean Seefeldt, 13th ASOS TACP Specialist, adjust a high-frequency field antenna during Wraith Challenge 22 in Burnet, Texas, October 1st. September 5, 2022
            1. -5
              23 February 2023 14: 46
              I did not pay attention that you are speaking from the other side, from the side of the enemy. I'll be more careful next time. And yes, your ads are simply gorgeous, well, frankly, a feast for the eyes.
              But, on topic, not on pretty pictures.
              How will it get to the enemy if there is a system of encryption and code change?
              How will power consumption increase if even a smartphone can be used as a modem? I turned on the transmission, put the smartphone speaker to the microphone on the walkie-talkie and the transmission took place in a second or two, then turn on the reception and wait for confirmation of the message.
              And what is not in real time, so you have to sacrifice something for the sake of the result. In the absence of a maid, you can have fun with the janitor.
              1. +3
                23 February 2023 15: 59
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                I didn’t pay attention that you are on the other side, on the enemy’s side

                I'm not with that one. I am neutral from birth. And so I am for "ours", only for ours, and not for the bad guys who dress up as ours.
                there are no ads at all. But I used it: gorgeous, compared to what I used in the USSR SA, and how comrades from the RF Armed Forces respond: day and night (shovel fiskars and BSL)
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                But on topic

                the connection is not quite mine, so on tops
                the radio hit the enemy.
                how do you imagine the "encryption and code change system"?
                all the personnel come to the service station on Saturdays and there the mustachioed ensign changes their firmware, uploads new software, or takes the old rutoken and installs a new one with a new secret?
                I do not think.
                Encryption can be done:
                - hardware (for life)
                - having a folder with keys that change according to timing, upon receiving a signal to change the encryption key.
                All. ... I don't know any other way. Enlighten me, maybe the wrong thought ran away.
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                How will power consumption increase if even a smartphone can be used as a modem?

                -I, frankly, assumed that you mean: he spoke into the microphone, the RAM recorded, the processor translated into text, encrypted, compressed and sent.
                every action is an expenditure of energy and time
                - you can’t use a smartphone: the network is not everywhere, but not at all on the battlefield. The location of the signal is very easily located, recorded (stored for a long time) and decrypted (Girkin and Gyurza, together with the Dutch court, they won’t let you lie)

                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                In the absence of a maid, you can have fun with a janitor.

                leaving the army without communication, or with castrated communication, is a crime: Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 275. High treason
                rendering financial, logistical, consulting or other assistance to a foreign state, an international or foreign organization or their representatives in activities, against the security of the Russian Federation
                .
                "twenty shines", as the "guarantor" likes to say
                Although it used to be fairer
                Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926, art. 58.1
                Art. Art. 58.1a-58.1g were put into effect from the time the post was put into effect. Central Executive Committee of the USSR
                dated June 8, 1934 (SZ USSR 1934 No. 33, art. 255).
                §3. Actions to the detriment of the military power of the USSR, its state independence
                or inviolability of its territory. Treason to the Motherland, in whatever action it is expressed, is always committed to the detriment of the military power, independence or inviolability of the USSR

                Threat. someone "-" slapped you there ....
                1. -3
                  23 February 2023 16: 17
                  It doesn't matter to me at the moment which of yours gave me a "minus". But I do not publish advertising pictures, and I consider those who publish them to be an enemy clogging the air.
                  Who left the army without communication there is none of my business, I do not have the appropriate authority to investigate. I only propose an easy-to-implement message encoding system.
                  And as for the ways of coding and changing codes, this is not my specialty. But making a modem out of a smartphone is easy. All you need is a modem program with conversion to a voice signal. The program requires an encryption module. A task for a programmer or a team of programmers for 2-3 months, or maybe faster.
                  Ideally, you need to have a radio station operating in data transfer mode and connected to a smartphone (tablet) via USB or even bluetooth. And in the absence of encryption programs, voice messages can be sent even packed with the 7zip archiver if there is a ready-made voice modem program in the smartphone. He spoke, packed the archiver, attached the smartphone speaker to the radio microphone and the transmission took place, similarly on the receiving side.
                  That is, a secret transmission can be organized on the knees, through the usual open analog radio communication.
                  1. +2
                    23 February 2023 17: 12
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    At the moment, it doesn’t matter to me which of yours slapped me a minus.

                    repeat
                    I don’t have “ours / yours” and cons are not my style.
                    I just informed
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    But I do not publish advertising pictures, and I consider those who publish them

                    your right guaranteed Article 29 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                    And I think that since a person receives 89% of the information with his eyes, then the picture is simpler and more understandable.
                    I am not campaigning. In general, against the "monkey syndrome": it's so nice here.
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    But making a modem out of a smartphone is easy. All you need is a modem program with conversion to a voice signal. The program requires an encryption module. A task for a programmer or a team of programmers for 2-3 months, or maybe faster.

                    You don't have to make a "modem" out of a smartphone. he is there and he is
                    Open your smartphone settings. In the section "Wireless networks" ("Network") find the item "Modem mode" ("Modem and access point").

                    and you don't need a programmer.
                    Repeat%
                    - smart phone on the battlefield is evil. This is an enemy spy. Yes, and there is no connection, at least not stable. Visit the forest, taiga, even the field - you will understand right away.
                    ** dictated, packed and crawl across the field with your hand raised - look for a connection, you will find (in an hour) - good. did not find - bad. And if the tower was slammed, or the noise generator was turned on, you won’t find it at all
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    He spoke, packed the archiver, put the speaker of the smartphone to the microphone of the walkie-talkie and the transmission took place

                    What's the point of this? real-time is not. information is outdated.
                    He called the orderly, whispered in his ear (wrote a message on his back), sent him to transfer the data to someone.
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    That is, a secret transmission can be organized on the knees, through the usual open analog radio communication.

                    Why is a smartphone in this chain?
                    - by analogy, the bandwidth is minuscule + easily choked by interference.
                    Hartley-Shannon formula
                    Modem 9,6 kbps
                    in the V34.bis protocol, speeds can be up to 33,6 kbps.
                    This is nothing in the 23rd year of the 21st century.
                    1. -4
                      23 February 2023 17: 22
                      You decided to score my messages with garbage? Well, also a method. If you didn’t try to stop me, but read it properly, you might have noticed that it is proposed to use a smartphone as a modem that creates sound signals, as a temporary option. Only the weak-minded can offer the use of a smartphone over public communication channels via a SIM card while on the front line.
                      To transmit coordinates or several dozen letters, even 9,6 kbps or less will be enough. The 21st century will not run away from us anywhere, there is no need to catch up with it.
                      And yes, sometimes you need to convey a message like with an orderly, it is so much needed.
                2. 0
                  14 June 2023 00: 23
                  Enlighten me, maybe the wrong thought ran away.
                  While reading this article and writing a comment, your browser may have changed encryption mechanisms with the server several times. It was all pretty transparent. There are many mechanisms for changing encryption keys, both centralized and distributed.

                  uttered into the microphone, the RAM recorded, the processor translated into text, encrypted, compressed and sent.
                  every action is an expenditure of energy and time

                  Audio codecs in smartphones automatically compress the audio spectrum. And when you speak through instant messengers, all the described operations occur quite quickly in the region of ten milliseconds. If such a conversation is on the move, then a network stack works under the hood, which restores lost data packets. And all these technologies are more than ten years old.
  12. +2
    23 February 2023 13: 17
    It was necessary to add in the article that all mobilized must buy a walkie-talkie for their hard-earned money, otherwise they will be left without communication in battle. And 99% buy the cheapest - Baofeng UV-5R, UV-82
    1. +1
      23 February 2023 14: 46
      Besser das UV-9R Plus 7 Watt and IP-68 Wasserdicht.
      1. 0
        23 February 2023 19: 57
        Yes, they also buy UV-9R Plus, this is the old BF-A58, only the name was changed. Of the minuses - the headset jack is not common, the choice of headsets is much smaller, the antenna connection well is narrower, many additional antennas are not suitable (for example, NA-771) and the dimensions of the walkie-talkie are noticeably larger, yes, there is also a plastic clip, uncomfortable
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  13. +2
    23 February 2023 17: 03
    It is surprising that in Russia there is a problem with walkie-talkies with a modern element base: processors on the ARM core, FPGA, DAC / ADC, discrete components, make a walkie-talkie with symmetric encryption the same AES256, but you can at least screw non-symmetrical ones with all authorizations and authentications and this is work for engineers / programmers / designers of the middle hand, in ten years it was possible to produce hundreds of thousands of such walkie-talkies.
    1. +6
      23 February 2023 17: 55
      Russia's radio problem


      The problem is not with radios, but with corrupt officials.
      1. -1
        24 February 2023 12: 36
        the problem is not with corrupt officials, but with company commanders Vanki, who at school were not taught how to read instructions for complex instruments.
    2. -2
      24 February 2023 13: 04
      In Russia, there are no problems with walkie-talkies, there are problems with their users. Gambling is even more elegant than you think. There DAC / ADC and FPGA. Everything else is FPGA firmware. They wanted to transfer Azart-2 to Skif with AWP cores, but it’s good that they didn’t have time.
  14. 0
    23 February 2023 17: 38
    As a development engineer, I will write that a radio station with encryption on Russian components is made in 6 months.

    The rest is corruption problems.
    1. -1
      24 February 2023 12: 41
      a radio station with encryption on Russian components is made in 6 months.
      So Serdyukov did everything a long time ago. Now it is necessary that the company Vanka understand what he did. Read what Azart-2 is. Those who want to make it higher than the roof.
  15. +2
    23 February 2023 18: 00
    I once worked with communications in the TETRA format. It was both digital and secure and powerful. Where is a line about her?
  16. 0
    23 February 2023 18: 25
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    You decided to score my messages with garbage? Well, also a method. If you didn’t try to stop me, but read it properly, you might have noticed that it is proposed to use a smartphone as a modem that creates sound signals, as a temporary option. Only the weak-minded can offer the use of a smartphone over public communication channels via a SIM card while on the front line.
    To transmit coordinates or several dozen letters, even 9,6 kbps or less will be enough. The 21st century will not run away from us anywhere, there is no need to catch up with it.
    And yes, sometimes you need to convey a message like with an orderly, it is so much needed.


    Not a professional, so an amateur, in the past.
    Personal opinion...
    The smartphone must provide signal transmission. When turned on, it starts searching for base stations. In ordinary smartphones, it searches by receiving / transmitting some kind of technical data. If it passes, it becomes visible to the enemy. If it does not transmit, then how does the base station recognize the smartphone and switch to the mode of receiving information?
    It is possible that I did not read carefully what you wrote. But I remain with my amateur opinion that the very inclusion of the smartphone already starts signal transmission. A transmitter is easier to detect than a receiver.
    1. -3
      23 February 2023 18: 44
      Isn't it clear that the smartphone is proposed to be used not for communication, but for transferring it into modem mode for a walkie-talkie? How did you conspire to score what I write with garbage!
      The smartphone should act as an encoder-decoder, even as a modem, and not as a means of communication, communication via GSM or 3G, 4G is not required. Instead of a smartphone, a tablet without a SIM card can be used.
      Where cellular communications work, it is not a serious problem to transmit an encoded message at all. This is not the case. My opponent, as if from Holland, wrote a little higher that the smartphone is switched to the "modem" mode and can transfer files via voice channels.
  17. +2
    23 February 2023 19: 00
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    Isn't it clear that the smartphone is proposed to be used not for communication, but for transferring it into modem mode for a walkie-talkie? How did you conspire to score what I write with garbage!
    The smartphone should act as an encoder-decoder, even as a modem, and not as a means of communication, communication via GSM or 3G, 4G is not required. Instead of a smartphone, a tablet without SIM can be used.


    Unclear. I do not understand. If the smartphone is turned on, then the first thing it should do is look for the base station. Well, or before he appears in a dangerous place, he must be completed.
    I still understand about a tablet without SIM, but I don’t understand about a smartphone without prior preparation. And not from the desire to score garbage text.
    Everyone has a different level of technical knowledge, different previous experience. And different intuition on the text of the interlocutor.
    Yes. It didn't reach me. Both you and I are to blame.
    We live in the same country. Happy Holidays!
    PS. My guilt is greater, because. was not attentive.
    1. -4
      23 February 2023 19: 05
      There is doubt about one country. Digital data can be transmitted by voice, as does "Terminator" in the film of the same name, or "Terminator-3", where Madam transmits data in a cellular way like a modem, reconsider if you do not catch this possibility. I did not encounter the need to cancel the network search, but I think there is such an opportunity. If this is not possible, a military smartphone or tablet should be used, if available.
    2. -1
      23 February 2023 20: 10
      In theory, turning on "flight mode" disables the GSM module, including emergency calls to 112.
  18. +2
    23 February 2023 20: 03
    About Excitement in the article modestly kept silent? Many billions have been cut on this project, and the output is zilch
    1. 0
      24 February 2023 13: 15
      and at the exit zilch
      Why all of a sudden?
      People are happy with everything, those who do not know how are not happy.
      https://youtu.be/lHRiD0Yi5o0

      A serviceman of the reconnaissance units of the Airborne Forces about the use of the R-187 "Azart" radio set:
      I love this station! Just 90% of users do not know how to use it and 20%
      https://vk.com/wall-125121854_263257
      1. +4
        24 February 2023 13: 29
        They are not arguing about the Azarts, they are swearing about the lack of repeaters for them.
        1. +2
          25 February 2023 02: 55
          And about the lack of portable radios on armored vehicles.
    2. +1
      24 February 2023 23: 27
      Quote: _Ugene_
      About Excitement in the article modestly kept silent? Many billions have been cut on this project, and the output is zilch

      The material did not aim to consider the means of radio communication used in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, only those that can get there from the civilian market, and what are their differences, advantages and disadvantages.
  19. +1
    23 February 2023 20: 25
    Quote: Aristarkh Pasechnik
    There is such a r / s Baikal-35, power 10 W, 136-174 MHz analog + digital, there is a scrambler, waterproof, but the price ... 15 tr! Yes, normal


    For a civilian - a rip-off!
    For contracts with the Moscow Region for the maintenance of passenger cars, you can finally offer it cheaper and not think about where to look for cash.
  20. +2
    23 February 2023 22: 11
    Nikolay Nekrasov

    FORGOTTEN VILLAGE

    Burmistra Vlas has a grandmother Nenil
    I asked to fix the hut in the forest.
    He answered: there is no forest, and do not wait - it will not be!
    "Here comes the master - the master will judge us,
    Barin himself will see that the hut is bad
    And he tells me to give it to the forest, ”the old woman thinks.

    Someone next door, greedy extortioner,
    The peasants of the zemlyatse shack
    Delayed, cut off in a rogue manner.
    “Here comes the master: he will be surveyors! -
    Think peasants. - The master will say the word -
    And they will give our country back to us again. ”

    I fell in love with Natasha, a free-range tiller,
    Yes, the German girl reread compassionate,
    Chief Executive Officer. “Wait, Ignasha,
    The master will come! ”Says Natasha.
    Small, large - a little bit of an argument -
    “Here comes the master!” - they repeat in chorus ...

    Nenila is dead; on a strange land
    The neighbor dodger - harvest a hundredfold;
    Former boys go bearded;
    The free breadman fell into the soldiers,
    And Natasha herself doesn’t rave about her wedding ...
    The master is still gone ... the master is not going!

    Finally one day in the middle of the road
    Hearing seemed to the train train:
    On the high coffins the oak stands
    And in the coffin is a gentleman; and behind the coffin - a new one.
    They buried the old, wiped away the new tears,
    He got into his carriage and left for St. Petersburg.


    All - with one of the most important holidays!
  21. +1
    24 February 2023 21: 05
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    Digital data can be transmitted by voice, as does the "Terminator" in the film of the same name

    Digital data can be transmitted by voice, as does the "Terminator" in the film of the same name
    The R-159 from the time of the Afghan war was able to transmit digital data, and an encryption module was produced for them, which was connected instead of the standard headset, this is the time of the second Chechen one.
    1. 0
      25 February 2023 11: 29
      That's exactly what I'm talking about. An ordinary smartphone with a special program can act as an encryption module. At the same time, you can use the smartphone's headphone output to connect instead of a headset, or even make short transmissions with sound into the microphone, in the absence of an adapter cord and matching signal levels.
      If there are difficulties with the production and the use of special military means, then household communications equipment and tablets can be used for encryption and transmission.
      It's good that you get the idea.
      And then a certain Diger (Juhannes) is trying to confuse and challenge with clever arguments about protocols, bandwidth, outdatedness, time delays, and so on. What to discuss makes sense when the idea is realized and accepted at least for discussion.
  22. 0
    25 February 2023 01: 00
    I did not understand why there are so many about analog - enough: only to the rear, if you want to live.
    Walkie-talkies are needed not by the unit, but by the entire army. It sucks when the infantry, armor, artillery and headquarters have their own network, it's only worse when it's still crushed inside.
    We need an article to undermine defense capability, there should be and will be up to VMN without options. Merchants in uniform, like Arslans, need to be shaken up to 7 knees. And all the friends up to 3 hands. If he now sits out in a pre-trial detention center and comes out as his own who has served time under a light article or suddenly dies, then the Strategic Missile Forces will not help us either. Well, or just hit the Kremlin once and Warsaw/Berlin/Washington. And start building a new life.
  23. +1
    25 February 2023 11: 21
    Thanks to the author for the article. Interesting. hi