Well, let's wait until the Ukrainian kamikaze UAVs begin to fall on our heads

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Well, let's wait until the Ukrainian kamikaze UAVs begin to fall on our heads

One of the most effective means of influencing the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) on the infrastructure of Ukraine is the use of long-range unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV-kamikaze) of the Geran-2 type. The advantage of this type of UAV is the optimal ratio of the efficiency-cost criterion in comparison with other types. long-range precision weapons.

The problem with UAVs of this type is that their production can be established not only in Iran or Russia, but also in Ukraine, and then Ukraine will be able to create serious problems for the Russian infrastructure, especially since the armed forces of Ukraine (APU) are not distinguished by scrupulousness and inflict strikes will be on such vulnerable facilities as hospitals, and maybe schools, kindergartens, or they will hit especially dangerous facilities - nuclear power plants, chemical plants, fuel and lubricants depots, and critical military and civilian production facilities.



Of course, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not able to organize UAV storm of thousands or even tens of thousands of kamikaze UAVs, but even hundreds of long-range kamikaze UAV strikes deep into Russian territory will have a huge political and psychological effect. Yes, and the loss of industry and the armed forces can be very unpleasant, not to mention human casualties.

Will the Russian air defense forces (AD) be able to repel the attack?


It is highly doubtful. Partially - yes, but in general, rather, no, the law of large numbers - the more the enemy sends UAVs, the more objects he will be able to hit. Not a single air defense system in the world is capable of repelling multiple attacks by low-observable, low-flying long-range UAVs. Especially since there are already precedents.

The situation could be positively influenced complexes active protection of air defense (KAZ-Air Defense), but so far they do not exist, and in any case it will not be possible to put KAZ-Air Defense on all hospitals, schools, factories and oil depots ...

This means that it is necessary to look for other ways to reduce the effectiveness of the enemy inflicting strikes on Russian targets.

Disguise


The adversary will select targets deep in Russia primarily based on satellite reconnaissance data from NATO countries and images obtained from commercial satellite constellations of remote sensing of the Earth. Secondly, it will be human intelligence data. Let's leave undercover intelligence at the mercy of the relevant structures - let's consider how to reduce the effectiveness of enemy space reconnaissance means.

Of course, the best solution would be destroy or at least partially disable enemy space reconnaissance satellites, if not military, then at least civilian. But until we decide on this, the main means of counteracting space intelligence is camouflage.

In the material "The choice of weapons in the confrontation between Armenia and Azerbaijan: disguise as a" way of deception " we considered the possibility of applying an image to objects, in order to visually change their signature, to complicate the enemy's determination of their type, size, purpose - all these measures are still relevant today. Even if you paint half the roof of a building one color and the other half another, an inexperienced operator studying satellite images can be misled. By covering the parking lot with lightweight structures, it can be made to look like a building, and images of cars can be applied to the roof of the building.


3D images can turn the roof of a building into a car park or make a house look like a ruin - they can be placed on special awnings stretched on rooftops or over camouflaged objects

It will be more difficult with satellites that receive a high-quality detailed image of the earth's surface in the radar range. You can’t get by with paint here, most likely, some kind of false structures will be required, perhaps easily erected structures, stretched metallized awnings or something else. Potentially, the quality of images obtained by radar reconnaissance satellites can be degraded by the use of any materials, in some places, attenuating the reflected signal, in others, amplifying it with the help of corner reflectors and Luneberg lenses.

Gain altitude


If the enemy nevertheless detected the object, then it is necessary to maximize the probability of detecting and destroying attacking kamikaze UAVs.

One of the trends of the special military operation (SVO) was the use by both sides aviation mostly at low and ultra-low altitudes. We talked about the reasons for this in the materials "Awkward questions: air supremacy over Ukraine and its consequences" и “AWACS aircraft of NATO countries and deliveries of NASAMS air defense systems to Ukraine will close low altitudes for Russian aviation”.

To put it briefly, the RF Armed Forces clearly lack modern and highly efficient early warning aircraft (AWACS), thanks to which the enemy can operate relatively freely at low altitudes. The enemy (that is, NATO) has much more such aircraft, which is why our aviation does not fly deep into Ukraine even at low altitudes.

In the context of the issue under consideration, the lack of AWACS aircraft in the RF Armed Forces allows the enemy to organize long-range UAV strikes deep into Russian territory, using low altitudes and terrain, minimizing the possibility of detecting attacking enemy kamikaze UAVs by air defense systems. At the same time, the enemy, apparently, uses riverbeds, forest clearings, and similar terrain elements to reduce the flight height, allowing the kamikaze UAV route to be laid at the level of treetops, or even below it.

The issues of increasing the detection range of low-flying targets by radar stations (RLS) were previously considered in the material "Ensuring the operation of air defense systems against low-flying targets without the involvement of Air Force aviation". It can be assumed that under current conditions, detection radars can be placed on stationary high-rise masts and roofs of industrial facilities (of course, only those radars whose weight and size characteristics allow this), but it will not be possible to close all directions in this way.

The option of creating artificial obstacles for enemy kamikaze UAVs, forcing them to climb, with subsequent detection using radar and destruction by anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) or fighter aircraft, can be considered.

For example, on a long forest clearing, clearly visible on satellite images, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine can use as a route for a low-altitude passage of a kamikaze UAV, two high-altitude masts, 50 meters high, are installed between which metal cables are stretched. Then there are two options - either the enemy UAV will fly into these cables, or if the enemy knows about the masts, then he will either have to increase the height of the UAV flight or choose a different route. In some cases, light ropes or nets made of synthetic materials can be stretched directly between large trees or some existing artificial objects.

Tethered balloons can also be used as a barrier to low-flying UAVs. This method was used back in World War II, and it is still relevant today - some countries are already testing barrage balloons. It is much easier to deploy a balloon than a metal tower, especially somewhere above a river.


Barrage balloons over Britain during World War II

Simple Defense


If the enemy UAV nevertheless broke through to the attacked object, then it is necessary to minimize the consequences of the strike.

When blown up near buildings, glass fragments turn into secondary damaging elements, many people can suffer from them. Therefore, the first solution to increase the security of objects that could potentially be attacked by Ukrainian kamikaze UAVs should be pasting the glass with special armor films that prevent fragments from scattering - at the same time, an anti-vandal effect will be obtained.

In addition, some types of films are athermal, that is, they reflect infrared and ultraviolet radiation well. In summer, this will save a little on air conditioning, and in winter on heating.

But the main protection should be metal mesh stretched over the protected objects. As the practice of the SVO has shown, they are used quite successfully by the Ukrainian side to protect against kamikaze UAVs of the Lancet type. True, the Lancet has a warhead power of only 3-5 kilograms, while long-range kamikaze UAVs will carry about 50 kilograms of explosives, but even in this case, a significant reduction in the impact on the attacked object can be expected, while the farther the grid away from the protected object, the better the protective effect will be.

Camouflage awnings with 3D images can be stretched over metal nets.

Conclusions


Ukraine wants to strike deep into Russian territory. Ukraine is making significant efforts to get weaponthat will enable them to do so. Even if the Western allies of Ukraine themselves do not dare to provide such weapons, they are guaranteed to help with its creation.

The longer the NMD drags on, the higher the likelihood of strikes deep into the territory of Russia and an increase in their number, which means that measures to prevent them and minimize the consequences must be taken now.
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  1. +49
    22 February 2023 04: 16
    To kill a snake you need to cut off its head!
    And all the reasoning that the death of the leadership will not make sense is empty talk. Even a political party is losing face with the departure of a prominent leader.
    1. -10
      22 February 2023 04: 54
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Even a political party is losing face with the departure of a prominent leader.


      offer to bang Biden? .For the liquidation of dozens of Zelensky and Zaluzhny will not change anything, since the United States will put another doll on their hand instead of them and continue the war. And the liquidated Zlensky and Zaluzhny will be made heroes for Nazi Ukraine.
      1. +15
        22 February 2023 05: 18
        Quote: lopvlad
        offer to bang Biden?

        How is it different from Ze? The one that greets ghosts?
        And according to the article
        The option of creating artificial obstacles may be considered
        the most workable option from the article. But only not the cables separately balloons separately, but a combination of balloons with synthetic cables. But still, it is possible only to protect a few objects, because it is costly.
        The best way to secure Russia is to destroy the outskirts as a state. But so far, even the vague SVO has not been renamed, not to mention more ...
        1. +3
          22 February 2023 07: 34
          1. It is impossible to cover everything, we have a huge territory.
          2. Vital objects are covered.
          3. It is necessary to conduct exercises at least for schools and kindergartens on evacuation to shelters.
          4. Dig holes in yards.
          1. +2
            22 February 2023 14: 42
            1. It is impossible to cover everything, we have a huge territory.
            3. It is necessary to conduct exercises at least for schools and kindergartens on evacuation to shelters.
            4. Dig holes in yards.

            Unfortunately yes! sad
          2. +12
            22 February 2023 16: 26
            Quote: Civil
            1. It is impossible to cover everything, we have a huge territory.
            2. Vital objects are covered.
            3. It is necessary to conduct exercises at least for schools and kindergartens on evacuation to shelters.
            4. Dig holes in yards.

            It is necessary to destroy the crossings on the border, and the delivered weapons on the territory of the zapadenschina. Shut off the supply of weapons by sea to Odessa. What is being done in this direction is NOTHING. But the General Staff of the Moscow Region does not supply second-hand supplies to PMC Wagner. Here they are heroes.
          3. +4
            22 February 2023 19: 27
            Grandfather and grandmother worked in Korea after the war (then she was alone) and after the first American raids, they were amazed at the helplessness of the Koreans and the large number of civilian casualties.

            First of all, the grandmother dug a gap in the yard to hide the children and hide herself. Grandfather, of course, was on a mission. The Koreans looked, looked at what she was doing, and quickly dug up cracks too.

            And at the same time, grandfather received an award for booking steam locomotives with gravel (there was nothing else), covered between two sheets of iron.

            I don't want to repeat history...
            1. 0
              26 February 2023 17: 55
              IMHO all these measures will cost more than the possible damage from arrivals. Moreover, it is orders of magnitude more expensive, given the "cuts" during tenders. I propose to go the other way - to organize first aid courses wherever possible, so that as many people as possible can bandage the wounded, properly get him out of the rubble and take him to a safe place. It will be cheaper, and in the future it will come in handy, at least there will be fewer deaths in accidents and traffic accidents. How to lure people into medical care courses - and here I will offer not payments, but a discount on fees and taxes, at least for a year.
              In areas of multi-storey buildings at a range of ukroraket, it may and should be possible to create "Volunteer fire brigades" - it is inexpensive if axes-respirators are bought by the combatants themselves and stored at home, and for participation in the DPD, for example, there is also a discount from utility bills.
              Veterans of fire departments, who are already retired by age, but remember what and how, may well teach at the DPD.
              dig the cracks

              The worst idea. A lot of useless work, and the cracks will quickly become garbage dumps and toilets, flooded with spring waters, and digging anywhere in 2023 is more difficult than in 1941, as there are wires, pipes, and so on. There are many books on the history of air defense during the Second World War;
          4. 0
            April 30 2023 08: 03
            I think we should be more worried not about kamikaze drones, but about drones that spread plague fleas.


            And also, I think they are already actively used.
            the spread of infection through their prisoners, the wounded, the disposal of their corpses, and the vaccination of animals, and the return of our prisoners.
        2. +1
          22 February 2023 18: 02
          the most efficient option from the article

          Well, you, by God, are like kids in soldiers! ... Information for thought. Recently (literally in a year) on the territory of the city of Sevastopol, like mushrooms after rain, cell towers began to massively grow. I will not say that before the quality of communication was unacceptable. I will assume with a probability of 50/50 that the technology for detecting aircraft by cellular signals is being introduced. This would be the most workable and economical option for the country as a whole, and not for air defense facilities.
          Need to get ready. Alternatively, there is a Soviet skyscraper in Sevastopol called "cologne". A radio-transparent dome has been mounted on it since those very times. It will simply fit an HBO from any old S-300 without the need for a 40-ton tower. In the field of view, it will repeatedly block all regular means of detecting the entire garrison on the ground. And retirees from the ter defense could be on duty and operate.
          1. +1
            23 February 2023 19: 32
            Quote: Scharnhorst
            I will assume with a probability of 50/50 that the technology for detecting aircraft by cellular signals is being introduced.
            Do you believe in it?! This is what saturation with towers should be ... Apart from providing computing power ... Apart from the fact that Russia is not limited to Sevastopol ...
            Quote: Scharnhorst
            Well, what are you, by God, like kids in soldiers! ...

            Faith in science is good, but it does not replace knowledge. You believe in her too much.
          2. 0
            27 February 2023 15: 09
            LA has no cellular service. They either have their own radio channel or satellite communications, and UAVs can fly without any connection at all.
            1. 0
              April 20 2023 11: 51
              No channel is needed to hit a stationary object. A few penny details that are in every smartphone are enough. GPS + gyroscope + inertial.
      2. +8
        22 February 2023 10: 41
        The United States will then pull on the hand of another leader, but the population of the country and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be demoralized by the loss of leaders. And the new leaders will fear for their heads.
      3. +1
        23 February 2023 10: 25
        Quote: lopvlad
        offer to bang Biden? .For the liquidation of dozens of Zelenskys and Zaluzhnys will not change anything, since the United States will put another doll on their hand instead of them and continue the war.

        Well, they also have a lot of Bidens. He is the same doll as Zelensky.
    2. -2
      22 February 2023 08: 33
      "To kill a snake, you need to cut off its head!..."

      And where is the head of this snake, do you know? In Fashington? Where exactly do these arbiters of the fate of the world sit, this elite of the Mordorian behind the scenes ??
    3. +13
      22 February 2023 11: 16
      To kill a snake you need to cut off its head!

      What snake? Here is the most accurate comparison with a swarm of flies in the house.
      Than chasing each one with a fly swatter, it's easier to take a shovel and clean out and bury the garbage in front of the house.
      True, for this it is necessary to reason with the leadership of the NWO with this shovel. Traders.
    4. -1
      22 February 2023 22: 32
      Ze is definitely not the head. A doll that diverts attention from the real owners of the situation). Cutting off the head will not even play a psychological role (unless it will give the media a reason to hysteria in the style of the Skripals).
      Can? wedding general. Here's a grotesque wedding general. And even the party standing behind him does not steer politics (they can be safely put on the role of zits-chairman). However, he is a significant figure in the Western world, so his "chopping off" will still have political consequences. But the result will still not be achieved (attempts to depose Russia to the role of an uncomplaining supplier of cheap resources will not stop).
      Alas, this is the case when "chopping off the head of the hydra" is meaningless - due to the fact that the hydra is just a puppet in the wrong hands.
  2. NSV
    +22
    22 February 2023 04: 16
    Isn't it easier to just once and finally destroy all this hideout, and not reinvent the wheel with masking half of the country, pasting windows and other temporary measures that do not guarantee 100% protection?
  3. +17
    22 February 2023 04: 16
    The longer the NMD drags on, the higher the likelihood of strikes deep into the territory of Russia
    It was clear from the very beginning!
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 14: 44
      It was clear from the very beginning!

      Thanks, Cap! laughing
  4. +37
    22 February 2023 04: 26
    for some unknown reason, in the minds of most Russians, and worst of all, in the minds of the "strategists" from the brilliant headquarters, the opinion has taken root that time in this war is working for Russia .. and for some reason it does not occur to anyone that right now, right at this moment, the industry of Europe and the states is busy developing and producing advanced weapons systems for Ukraine, including geranium-type kamikaze drones ... what will these "strategists" do when these drones will soon and in large numbers fall on their heads our fighters and Russian cities - it’s completely incomprehensible .. a year of war has passed, Ukrainians have been shelling and shelling Donetsk, shelling settlements in the Belgorod and Kursk regions, which have not seen shelling before .. I feel sorry for people who believe that we are going to victory. ... with the existing command, we will face the largest military-political defeat ..
    1. +16
      22 February 2023 04: 41
      what will these "strategists" do when these drones will soon and in large quantities fall on the heads of our fighters and on Russian cities
      Express concern. They can't do anything else, and they don't want to.
      1. +2
        22 February 2023 18: 47
        Medvedev will draw another red line!
    2. +18
      22 February 2023 04: 49
      As long as the current unfortunate managers from the plow and deer are at the helm of the army and industry and at all key enterprises, there will be NO sense. Zero . There will only be harm ... People should not be afraid to change Putin, not be afraid to evaluate them and their activities, and always through the prism of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, because everyone has a snout there. This is the only way we can win MV, any other actions are like moving beds in a brothel
      1. -11
        22 February 2023 07: 14
        Let's put you on. You, uh ....., defeat everyone .. You see and know everything. But every war has its own logic. Ukrainians will not go anywhere and will always be dangerous for Russia with the help of "well-wishers" from the West. In addition, their armies have not gone away and their shock fist is on the borders of Russia and Belarus. Therefore, such a decision was made on the grave
        Ukrainian bandits and fools. Slowly grinding manpower and equipment. And if you think that this is for a long time, then I'm not sure. They already have moral fatigue from all this. The economy has collapsed and they are almost 100 percent dependent on the West. And the West will not be able to feed them for a long time. It’s just that you need to feed your parasites from the former countries of the socialist camp, because they are also on suction.
        If you think that the printing press will solve everything, then this is not so.
        From printing money, the prices are already very high and many people and families begin to suffer very much and they cannot stand it for long. Moreover, the blow was dealt to capitals, including large ones. .And now they will do everything to put more sane people in power. Well, and most importantly, Europe is becoming uncompetitive. Raw materials that went there on the cheap are now changing destinations. New sharks of capitalism are growing up and growing up and go to the front or breathe into the back of the head of the Europeans. So in Europe it becomes over time no longer a cake, and over time it will be very soon.
        1. +5
          23 February 2023 03: 54
          most dangerous delusion. Hoping for the exhaustion of the enemy, when he receives continuous replenishment from the West with weapons, and equipment, and ammunition, and intelligence, and mercenaries, and money, is a utopia. Yes, bandits and fools suffer heavy losses - but we also lose a lot of people, to put it mildly. Are our resources inexhaustible? Alas, exhausted. Is our industrial and financial potential stronger than NATO's? Alas, much weaker. And today the entire industrial and financial potential of the entire West is working for the needs of Ukraine. Therefore, the bet on attrition will not work here. Sooner or later, NATO will supply an increasing number of more and more advanced weapons, which in the end will be able to turn the tide on the battlefields not in our favor. And as a result, the enemy can accumulate such forces that will allow him to take both Donetsk and Lugansk, and Sevastopol and Kerch. What's next for us then? It is known that. It will not be the same as it was with the defeats in the Crimean or Russo-Japanese war. There will be a collapse of the country and a civil war. Is there a way to avoid all this? Yes, as long as there is. Namely - to stop masturbation, sorry, special operation. Stop playing defense. To fight for real, to fight with Ukraine as an enemy and not as it is not clear with whom. There is no pro-Russian Ukraine today, the last 30 years of propaganda, and especially the last 10 years, have not been in vain. It is absolutely useless to hope for their enlightenment, and even more so for an uprising in our favor. They will not tire of the war and will not turn their weapons against their regime. Because they have unlimited NATO fuel. It will not work to grind them gradually. Now they are given leopards with challengers, then they will give them new missiles with airplanes, and then they may well throw an atomic bomb. And this boost will only grow. unless we start beating them in such a way as to break their backs. Once and for all. Not to try to exhaust them - but to undermine their military power. And the fate of the local population of Ukraine is, in the current situation, a matter, alas, of secondary and even tertiary importance. And in general, a lot of troubles happen in this war precisely because we consider them brothers. There is no fraternal Ukrainian people today. And I have already said that there is no pro-Russian Ukraine. All Ukraine hates us today. But they must be defeated. The only way is to break their backbone and move forward. No stagnation, no 21st century Passchendales. This is the path to defeat. And our defeat, as I said, will be our last.
      2. +19
        22 February 2023 10: 46
        The fish rots from the head. If the GDP did not know what his ministers were doing and did not control them, then he should leave, if he knew and let this happen, he should sit.
      3. -1
        22 February 2023 14: 47
        Do not carry nonsense, where does the plow and deer?! The reasons are completely different.
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    3. +7
      22 February 2023 06: 35
      About strategists from the General Staff, it’s worth listening to Prigozhin about shells, and today, with positions and names, listen and ASSUME that ambition is higher than conscience.
      I don’t see any reason to argue more and more, for the failure with Ugledar a medal on the chest and new shoulder straps, and the Wagner infantry without normal support, how so? It seems that only one Stalin is not on them.
      1. Alf
        +4
        22 February 2023 17: 43
        Quote: saigon
        There is no Stalin on them.

        And Lavrenty Palycha...
        1. +3
          23 February 2023 10: 36
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: saigon
          There is no Stalin on them.

          And Lavrenty Palycha...

          No, and in modern conditions it will not. Why these constant empty moans in the style of "what if ..."?
  5. 0
    22 February 2023 04: 40
    Completely agree with the conclusion! Finally, let's wait...
  6. +18
    22 February 2023 04: 41
    Everything that the author offers is certainly good ... but these are all half measures from defense ... and the one who only defends himself will lose sooner or later ... you can’t run all your life from kamikaze UAVs falling from the sky.
    The best defense is offense and you need to focus on hitting key spots in Ukronazi mode.
    I don’t know the specific plans of the Russian General Staff and the GDP for Ukraine, and judging by what we are seeing now, work is being done to exhaust the human, military, economic resources of the Ukronazi regime without touching the head of this hydra ... what this is a big mystery to me ... those who should, in theory, be destroyed are primarily protected by the GDP indulgence ... all the key elements of managing the UkrNazis, the government, the Rada, the SBU, the General Staff, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc., etc., are fully functioning. .. regularly supplying cannon fodder and military equipment from all over the world to the front ... although they could have been destroyed for a long time. request
    I don’t understand this war ... it doesn’t fit into the classical rules.
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    2. +6
      22 February 2023 06: 24
      Maybe everything is easier? The destruction of government structures (Rada, SBU, General Staff...) will unleash a full-scale war with the whole world, and now there is only support for the warring Ukraine? Since their government has not capitulated, it means that now there is only a "struggle for conditions", and therefore our state is not yet fully investing in the war (people buy quadrocopters, clothes, equipment ...). Could this be?
      1. +4
        22 February 2023 16: 19
        The destruction of government structures (Rada, SBU, General Staff...) will unleash a full-scale war with the whole world, and now there is only support for the warring Ukraine?

        The United States will certainly unleash a war in Europe when they are sure of success. Now there is a preparation in all directions. And then they can arrange a provocation themselves, even with the assassination of the President of the United States by a drone, and they will blame Russia for this. So all this is the legacy of the Comintern - the struggle for the hearts of the working people of the countries of the West - a transfusion from empty to empty with a sawing of funds and inflating the corresponding apparatus. We will not get any benefit from the game of patience, and thus we will not prevent a war.
      2. Alf
        +7
        22 February 2023 17: 45
        Quote: Ed1970
        The destruction of state administration structures (Rada, SBU, General Staff ...) will unleash a full-scale war with the whole world,

        Why did it happen ?
        Quote: Ed1970
        and therefore our state is not yet fully invested in the war

        But OUR soldiers are dying for real ...
  7. +16
    22 February 2023 04: 45
    Everything is simple here. The authorities in the state should behave in such a way that there would not even be a desire to lift their paws towards the border. Not to mention the UAV attack. And when the power is spineless and weak-willed, when it allows you to do practically everything with impunity, then such articles appear. Impunity breeds permissiveness
  8. +4
    22 February 2023 04: 53
    The "Law of Large Numbers" states something completely different from what the author writes about.

    And the rational grain lies in the fact that new technical means inevitably correspond to new counteracting means.

    For example, if satellite reconnaissance detects the creation of an "offensive fist" and makes its covert formation impossible, there is a countermeasure - delivering a tactical strike of nuclear weapons from a single camouflaged weapon.

    If the attack of the UAV mass is difficult to repel, then there are means of fighting satellites.

    But if the status of the state does not allow it to use even the means of struggle available to it, it will have to sacrifice the lives of many tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians.

    All this is reminiscent of a movie about a policeman who threatens a bandit with a gun, and he eventually comes close and takes the gun away from him.
    NATO came close to us in this way.

    Here, for example, is information about the Korean MLRS of caliber 600 mm. What they have, they will apply. And the devil himself is not afraid of them

    Intelligence is good for those who have it. And bad for those who never have it available at the right time.

  9. +18
    22 February 2023 05: 02
    . The longer the SVO will drag on, the higher the probability of strikes deep into the territory of Russia

    Where have we been taken? That's why we do all this. Did you think about it before the attack? A year has already passed, and this operation has no end! The front line does not change, and the attacks on Russia are becoming more intense.

    Is it that everything is going according to plan, as one secretary has repeatedly argued? I'm already scared to think how these plans will end in reality.
    1. +9
      22 February 2023 06: 21
      Where have we been taken?
      Here is another question: how to get out of where they were pulled in. And the situation is like at a metro station, where on many doors it says "no way out", but there are doors.
    2. -1
      22 February 2023 22: 41
      Quote: Stas157
      A year has already passed, and this operation has no end!

      The end of the SVO may loom when it is possible to kill more than 300 Armed Forces of Ukraine and overwhelm the energy system of Ukraine. Without these conditions, Biden and the Ukrainians will not abandon their plans for the genocide of Russians in the Crimea and Donbass. The war will last at least another year.
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  10. +14
    22 February 2023 05: 06
    What can be better to hide from ukroshahids so that there is nowhere to launch them from?
  11. -16
    22 February 2023 05: 09
    Will the Russian air defense forces (AD) be able to repel the attack?

    It is highly doubtful. Partially - yes, but in general, rather, no, the law of large numbers - the more the enemy sends UAVs, the more objects he will be able to hit. Not a single air defense system in the world is capable of repelling multiple attacks by low-observable, low-flying long-range UAVs. Moreover, there are already precedents.


    the only thing that does not raise questions is the dubiousness of this article. As for the work of Russian air defense, its effectiveness has been proven by hundreds of destroyed Bayraktars and downed Strizh super-jet drones, which surpasses American axes in terms of combat load mass, flight speed and maneuverability.
    As for air defense systems, the layered air defense system + REB systems will not leave drones a single chance.
    As for the Geraniums, the characteristics of these drones are not so much cool as the poor Ukrainian air defense.


    The longer the NMD drags on, the higher the likelihood of strikes deep into the territory of Russia and an increase in their number


    the longer the NMD drags on, the more professional the Russian army will be and the more effective the air defense, and the less military potential Ukraine will have.
    And yes, "Ukrainian" UAVs will fall in but fall before reaching their target and in the form of debris.
    1. +12
      22 February 2023 05: 56
      Quote: lopvlad
      Regarding the Geraniums, the characteristics of these drones are not so cool how miserable Ukrainian air defense.

      Why can't the poor air defense be extinguished?

      I would not treat the enemy so captivatingly. Poor air defense was in Syria. In Ukraine, there was a powerful air defense, which no longer allows you to dominate the air.

      Quote: lopvlad
      the longer the SVO will drag on the more professional the Russian army will be

      Maybe it doesn't take longer?
      Maybe it's better to get this over with?
  12. +17
    22 February 2023 05: 17
    The main problem of people with the psychology of slaves is that they cannot even use the weapons that they have. A bandit comes to such and takes everything that is. And he spits on all the terrible statements. That is exactly what is happening.

    In general, we "became famous for centuries" throughout the world for our kind of humanism in relation to enemies of foreigners with absolute cruelty towards each other. This is what it is
    1. +1
      23 February 2023 06: 23
      Exactly! Beat your own so that strangers are afraid - this is a Russian proverb for the Russian worldview. Unfortunately.
  13. -8
    22 February 2023 05: 37
    The funny thing is that at the moment the best defense of the Russian Federation is the corruption of the American military-industrial complex. If they start producing Geraniums, they will roll out a claim for decades of cutting the budget for unnecessary strategic and no less useless swarm UAVs, and they will also inquire - and we have thousands of Axes, which in Syria, for example, all fly past the targets together, and each cost like a hundred Geraniums with comparable TTX?!
    Well, they stupidly do not allow Europe and Dill to produce them, because the whole point was to remove competitors.
    However, the humor is good.
    PiSi: with Axes, in terms of meaning, you can shrug off - Geraniums will not work so effectively against the existing air defense ... But it is precisely decades of commercials and clip thinking that will not be able to convince the Americans themselves of this
    1. +8
      22 February 2023 09: 56
      Thank you for entertaining me with your posts. smile
      It turned out that 1% of the “sawn” US arsenal radically changes the fighting. The Javelins and others like them were forced to retreat from the Kyiv, Sumy and Chernihiv regions. Several dozen Heimers and 777 were forced to "regroup" from Kherson and Kharkov regions. They didn’t even open the warehouses, they supply what was lying at the entrance.

      About the blows of tomahawks, the point has long been set. Airfields were hit and disabled, satellite photo below. Naturally, a small part of the axes did not fly.


      1. +1
        22 February 2023 13: 08
        Well, already the progress of the bots - at least 1% recognized the cut - is already a feat. Previously, there were only elves running along the rainbow. So, you see, it will finally come to pass that if the Pentagon cannot account for 35+ trillion dollars, that is, the budget for HALF A CENTURY, then they don’t even steal 100% of the funds, but they also add left money to laundering schemes at the sawmill.
  14. +6
    22 February 2023 07: 27
    The role of camouflage of stationary objects against UAVs is very limited. It is indispensable in warring troops, in places of accumulation of troops, for misinformation about the amount of equipment at known bases. That is, concealment of the operational movement of people and equipment. But if the operator sees a reservoir in the place of the Engels base or an amusement park in the place of the thermal power plant, he will only smile and take out pictures from a week or a month ago. And to clarify the location of civilian objects, it’s enough to go to Yandex Maps.
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 08: 40
      Quote: U. Cheny
      The role of camouflage of stationary objects against UAVs is very limited. It is indispensable in warring troops, in places of accumulation of troops, for misinformation about the amount of equipment at known bases. That is, concealment of the operational movement of people and equipment. But if the operator sees a reservoir in the place of the Engels base or an amusement park in the place of the thermal power plant, he will only smile and take out pictures from a week or a month ago.


      At the Engels base, the operator needs bomber aircraft, and their location changes, i.e. pictures need to be fresh. and there is little time for preparation - the targets can again change their location. This means that layouts, and maybe even 3D images on tents, may well mislead the operator. In general, the protection of air bases is a separate topic, I considered it:

      Ukrainian UAV strikes on the airfield in Engels as an indicator of the extreme vulnerability of aviation at base points v-punktah-bazirovanija.html.

      Quote: U. Cheny
      And to clarify the location of civilian objects, it’s enough to go to Yandex Maps.


      For stationary objects - yes, there are a lot of pictures and maps, but there is enough gouging everywhere, they will take a newer map, from the same Yandex or Google, and they have already updated the maps. In place of the fuel tank there is a parking lot with cars, and there are also tanks, only they are a little to the left - there used to be a wasteland there. So it is necessary for each object to check the maps several times with the old versions, all the time is lost by the enemy.

      PMSM camouflage and protective obstacles (cables, nets) are too simple to be neglected, and their cost is orders of magnitude lower than most protected objects. Sparing several tens of millions of rubles to protect a workshop with equipment and / or machinery worth tens of billions of rubles is not a very reasonable decision.
      1. -1
        22 February 2023 16: 08
        At the Engels base, the operator needs bomber aircraft, and their location changes, i.e. pictures need to be fresh. and there is little time for preparation - the targets can again change their location. This means that layouts, and maybe even 3D images on tents, may well mislead the operator

        With so many of our strategists, they don’t need camouflage, but a deepened railway hangar with a couple of air defense installations nearby ... Without this, even with camouflage, even without them, they are corpses.
      2. +2
        22 February 2023 16: 25
        A small microchip with a program for optical recognition of objects of attack (aircraft) - and no picture from space is needed.
        They flew to the base, some of them turned on the electronic warfare, some of them hit with anti-radar missiles, and the shock zeno - with cassettes at the objects of attack. A hundred American drones will clean up the air base.
  15. 0
    22 February 2023 07: 52
    It is desirable that the author purchase camouflage nets at his own expense, and then he would pull them himself. Apparently, he had never heard of databases of space and aerial footage.
  16. +2
    22 February 2023 08: 06
    Quote from Bingo
    thousands of Axes, which in Syria, for example, all fly past the targets, and each cost like a hundred Geraniums with comparable performance characteristics ?!

    I laughed about the comparable performance characteristics of the Tomahawk and Shahi ... oh, Gerani. And I wonder what grids to put from GLSDB?
    1. +2
      22 February 2023 08: 32
      Quote: Zufei
      Quote from Bingo
      thousands of Axes, which in Syria, for example, all fly past the targets, and each cost like a hundred Geraniums with comparable performance characteristics ?!

      I laughed about the comparable performance characteristics of the Tomahawk and Shahi ... oh, Gerani. And I wonder what grids to put from GLSDB?


      Grids are unlikely to help against GLSDB, but it will not be worse, depending on how the fuse is installed, it can detonate in advance, which will reduce damage.
  17. +1
    22 February 2023 08: 18
    I completely agree with the author, but then what? "And what?". The MiG-31 can fight against the fact that at least from a distance it looks like a "normal" cruise missile, and not even necessarily in a modernized form. Directors themselves, without AWACS. They seemed to still be at the storage bases, I don’t know what was left of them after decades of “storage”, and where to get pilots for these monsters now. Okay, at least something is clear here.

    What to do with drones the size of a large model aircraft? You can’t poke air defense systems everywhere. It is better to remain silent about the cost of conventional missiles.
  18. -8
    22 February 2023 08: 30
    "One of the most effective means of influencing the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) on the infrastructure of Ukraine is..."
    nuclear attack on the Pentagon and other NATO decision-making centers
    1. +6
      22 February 2023 13: 54
      ..and return to us. Just as vigorous.
      1. 0
        23 February 2023 06: 17
        Do you still hope that this will not happen?
  19. +1
    22 February 2023 08: 36
    Of course, the optimal solution would be to destroy or at least partially disable enemy space reconnaissance satellites, if not military, then at least civilian ones.

    Strange conclusion. In terms of destruction, civilian and military satellites are not much different. Or does the author imagine a military satellite bristling with machine guns?! wassat And in political terms, there is no difference in the consequences, there is no difference between them, the answer will be the same.
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 16: 27
      And in political terms, there is no difference in the consequences, there is no difference between them, the answer will be the same.

      Not the same, depends on the effectiveness of the strike on the satellites.
  20. +4
    22 February 2023 09: 03
    . Well, let's wait until the Ukrainian kamikaze UAVs begin to fall on our heads

    Seems like we've been waiting.
    Today in Mariupol, air defense was pushing up in the sweat of its face.
  21. +2
    22 February 2023 10: 25
    At the Engels base, the operator needs bomber aircraft, and their location is changing

    If you notice, Geraniums are used exclusively for stationary purposes. They are not controllable. Like the old Soviet TU. So on planes they can only be used for good luck. After all, the plane can leave the parking lot and while the UAV is flying.
    And as for the grids over the workshops, you also need to think hard. How to clear snow. That's where technology is used.
    Although I fully agree that we need to work on this, and actively. Because this will not end with Ukraine, and the level of threats will only increase.
    1. 0
      22 February 2023 21: 58
      Quote: U. Cheny
      If you notice, Geraniums are used exclusively for stationary purposes. They are not controllable.


      Against such targets, you can try to use air gunships from helicopters and planes, equipped with machine guns and searchlights, by analogy with the night fighters of the past. The main question is to know where to look for such flying drones - we need, for example, inexpensive and massive radars and sound level meters in airborne areas connected to information networks.
      Another option is to use UAVs for search and target designation on UAVs, which, having cameras and some sensors and detectors suitable for this, will be able to search for unmanned vehicles in the air and monitor them.
    2. 0
      23 February 2023 12: 50
      Air Defense Barrage Nets, World War II
  22. +7
    22 February 2023 10: 30
    This won't help! You need to draw another red line - so they don't do it! Only not the same as before, but very, very red. And then they wouldn't dare! am
  23. +3
    22 February 2023 10: 47
    "Excellent" conclusion. Do "effective" managers understand what their adventure has come to or, as usual, head into the bushes, and the people will answer?
  24. +2
    22 February 2023 10: 56
    All these measures, as well as others, are possible and necessary.
    Previously, you just had to remember that at least two people always play such games.
    If we bomb Kyiv with lancets and calibers, then they will also snap back.

    Fortunately, Aliexpress is available to everyone. And there are aeromodelling teams in many countries. And Fans. And KB. And to make a large mock-up of an airplane from sticks and foam plastic .. - the video is full on the Internet how to do it., there would be motors and control electronics at least from China.

    Alas. Here we turn simply to the desire and the number of the population. (Perhaps, if there had been Stalin, the mass of non-residents would have sat and harps in garages made of foam plastic, sticks, fans and batteries with a stream of UAVs.) But the funds for them have not yet been found, alas.
  25. -2
    22 February 2023 12: 01
    Of course, the optimal solution would be to destroy or at least partially disable enemy space reconnaissance satellites, if not military, then at least civilian ones. But until we decide to do so,
    that is, we didn’t dare, it turns out, but we don’t have the opportunity? What weapon systems can we shoot down satellites?
    1. -1
      22 February 2023 12: 47
      There is no direct need to shoot down, as it were ... The Russian Federation has the ability to disable the optoelectronic filling (without it, the satellite is just a piece of iron), for example, the 30Zh6MK complex (channel 14Ts235).
  26. +1
    22 February 2023 13: 53
    or Russia, but also in Ukraine, and then Ukraine will be able to create serious problems for Russian infrastructure
    1. Even on Iranian drones, components are copies of Western ones
    2. The West has great potential in their production
    3. It is possible to produce (ostentatiously) in 404 and the main volume abroad.
    4. No one's air defense is now ready for such challenges (the Russian one is more ready, due to the original concept of the USSR air defense)
    5. It's cheap and cheerful.
  27. -8
    22 February 2023 15: 42
    It looks like the article was written by the author little knowledgeable in the subject. In Syria, Islamic terrorists tried unsuccessfully to destroy the Khmeimim airbase using drones. All drones are shot down by electronic warfare. Electronic warfare equipment can be placed anywhere, on land and in the air, on water and under water, on aircraft and on the same drones. And now our fighters in the NMD are increasingly successfully using electronic warfare equipment in the fight against Bandera drones. I ask the editors of the site not to allow laymen who are ignorant in the topic to publish articles.
    1. +2
      23 February 2023 01: 08
      one small base can be covered. And if there are hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of territory on which potential targets for strikes are at every turn?
  28. Hey
    +1
    22 February 2023 16: 07
    Earlier on VO I offered VNOS posts with sound-catching and optical devices, searchlights, MZA (ZU-23, Shilka), and even made minimal calculations. I got 1200 km. border, 20 people per post (24000 in total), well 1500 posts (retractable, blocking) 40000 with commanders and attendants. Here you can recruit conscripts, women, disabled people who have passed SVO. Correctly cover the lowlands with a net. The revival of small aircraft L-ki, Yaki, An-2, etc. slow-moving, which will destroy those who break through. Important objects are additionally covered by object air defense.
    1. Alf
      +3
      22 February 2023 17: 51
      Quote: MUD
      The revival of small aircraft L-ki, Yaki, An-2, etc. low-speed,

      Who will make them, where and from what? For how many years the unfortunate Baikal cannot be launched into a series ...
  29. +5
    22 February 2023 16: 18
    "APU are not squeamish and they will strike ... at especially dangerous facilities - nuclear power plants, chemical plants, warehouses of fuels and lubricants (fuel and lubricants), at critical military and civilian production facilities. "(c)
    Is it all about the war or what?
    Or is war when only one side destroys substations, fuel depots, critical industries, and the other side only announces air alerts?
    War is war for everyone, unfortunately
  30. 0
    22 February 2023 16: 39
    Cheaper, easier, less human losses if Ukraine is liquidated as a state. The Russian Federation should issue a Law, which states that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. The entire territory of Ukraine will become part of the Russian Federation in the form of regions. This will end the war on the territory of Ukraine. All this requires the will of the President of the Russian Federation.
    1. Alf
      +2
      22 February 2023 17: 52
      Quote: Vlad Gor
      The Russian Federation should issue a Law, which states that the entire territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. The entire territory of Ukraine will become part of the Russian Federation in the form of regions. This will end the war on the territory of Ukraine.

      Lao PDR officially announced. Helped?
  31. +3
    22 February 2023 17: 24
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    It was clear from the very beginning!

    Not for all. About the Kremlin, the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can be said in the words of Klitschko:
    “Today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Or rather, not only everyone can look, few people can do it.
  32. -3
    22 February 2023 19: 06
    It is necessary to destroy the enemy satellite constellation. Maps are maps, and the drone flies mainly on GPS signals. It is possible, in response to an attempt of such strikes, to begin with, to bang on the government quarter of Kyiv or Lvov with a tactical nuclear charge. If this does not stop anyone, then massive strikes will have to be carried out against NATO and, first of all, against the military and technological infrastructure of the United States. Otherwise, let's wait for NATO to be the first to strike at us. It always happens when they see that you are a coward.
    1. +4
      23 February 2023 13: 15
      The simplest and most effective means of influence is to block the delivery of equipment, ammunition, and fuel to the front. Why hasn't this been done yet...
      One iskander is enough to destroy the border crossing, where the axles of wagons are changed. There are enough of them for all transitions from a dozen. Until now, we have been silently watching how this “good” crosses the border of Ukraine, then it slowly travels by trains to the front and begins to shoot and kill our fighters and civilians. "And here we will show them!..."
      How to call it? I would say, yes, censorship will not give, so I will politely call "this is political masturbation" ...
      1. +2
        23 February 2023 13: 37
        This is not onan, this is a direct betrayal of the interests of Russia, starting from the very top. negative
  33. Uno
    +1
    22 February 2023 21: 19
    Interesting comments, here many complained why intelligence did not report on the mood on the territory of Ukraine, everyone thought that Russia would be expected here, etc. and now repeat the mistakes of intelligence. But no one understood, the tsar does not lead on the territory of Ukraine, they will choose another. Therefore, all comments on the topic "cut off the head" are just for plus signs)
  34. 0
    23 February 2023 00: 45
    I just thought we have a lot of base stations with antennas, and so we need to put locators on these stations. Resetting data into a single system
    https://topwar.ru/196553-novaja-portativnaja-rls-dlja-obnaruzhenija-nizkoletjaschih-malogabaritnyh-dronov-razrabotana-v-rossii.html
    The station weighs only 5 kg, place them on poles and buildings
    https://dzen.ru/a/Y94L-1mQpD4_K8mc
    These should be placed on poles.
    Such stations should be installed on military vehicles.
  35. 0
    23 February 2023 01: 03
    they will strike at such vulnerable objects as hospitals, and maybe schools, kindergartens

    The most obvious object of such strikes - substations and thermal power plants - the author did not name, he "forgot".
    The enemy will choose targets in the depths of Russian territory primarily according to satellite intelligence data from NATO countries and images

    For what? It’s easier according to old maps - substations and thermal power plants have remained in their place since the days of the USSR.
  36. 0
    23 February 2023 03: 31
    How did these authors get all the propellers. It seems to write about what needs to be done, but in fact it disperses panic. Without it, no one knows what to do and how to do it.
  37. +3
    23 February 2023 13: 32
    Oh how! We are no longer considering a quick victory over dill (as in April-May last), but we are solving issues of protecting the deep territories of the Russian Federation from bombing. The outskirts of the Russian Federation no longer count, here our armed forces are powerless. A sad conclusion suggests itself - the war is moving to the territory of the Russian Federation, the worst forecasts of smart people come true.
  38. +1
    23 February 2023 19: 30
    Well, they will strike, but not at the mansions of high-ranking citizens and not at the district towns of the oligarchs. After the strikes, a hysteria will begin in the media, they say, let's unite even more, support us in orderly swarms, increase our efforts, etc. Because the death of ordinary citizens is not a red line for high-ranking people. Thus, consumables will be replaced by "highly qualified" people from Central Asia.
    Therefore, even a blow to a hospital or a kindergarten will not bring any fundamental changes. A fundamental change will occur only if there is a threat to the PERSONAL security of high-ranking citizens. Only in this case.
  39. +1
    23 February 2023 19: 42
    Quote: Bulgarian
    How did these authors get all the propellers. It seems to write about what needs to be done, but in fact it disperses panic. Without it, no one knows what to do and how to do it.

    Well, of course, because everything goes according to a super-duper cunning plan, right?
  40. +1
    23 February 2023 19: 48
    The problem can be solved if we take the matter seriously, without regard to the business interests of the oligarchs. First of all, it is to crumble communications, because without the delivery of materials and components, no UAVs will fly anywhere, they simply will not be made from anything. The second is the destruction of production facilities without regard to the shares of the Russian oligarchs in them. No amount of dividends from the oligarchs can be worth our people dying.
    Only if these conditions are met, the Uro-Wehrmacht UAVs will not take off.
    If, again, the business interests of pleasant little men are a sacred cow, then new blood and new deaths in the depths of the country are inevitable.
  41. 0
    23 February 2023 20: 32
    Just fall asleep. Ukraine will make a unit of weapons, and publicize it so that hundreds or thousands of them are in service.
  42. +2
    23 February 2023 23: 39
    In general, who is responsible in the Moscow Region for new weapons? Is there a specific department, position, title, surname? Maybe there is a certain Main Analytical Center ... It is clear who is in charge of procurement, the military-industrial commission and each department of the General Staff separately. But what and by what criteria they buy is not clear. It is necessary to create a GAC ​​that should respond to potential and existing threats, build a direct connection between the military at the forefront and their requests, and build and coordinate the work on these requests of all defense design bureaus, research institutes and the military-industrial complex as a whole. The military-industrial commission obviously did not justify itself, turned into a lobbyist for individual companies, departments and generals.
  43. -2
    24 February 2023 00: 08
    Quote from Flyer
    The fish rots from the head. If the GDP did not know what his ministers were doing and did not control them, then he should leave, if he knew and let this happen, he should sit.


    - Everything is much simpler ... Over the past 30 years, a certain system has been established and established in the country - a vertical of subordination and irresponsibility to society for all levels of bureaucracy in civilian life, and command in the army, which assumed: - Everything is possible!
    - You can change old wives for young ones, you can strive for wealth in any way, you can show off and brag about this wealth in front of others, you can neglect social rules (drunk driving), etc., provided that you don’t Climb to the Wheel!. ..

    - In the countryside, businesses were ruthlessly destroyed...
    People were left without work. Pre-pensioners - without pensions, were doomed to extinction.

    - The initiative of work for the public interest, among the chiefs - was reduced to zero!
  44. -2
    24 February 2023 02: 03
    - Answering the title of the article: - We have no moral right to wait! ... It is necessary to immediately begin to implement the most appropriate methods of combating UAVs ... Practice will show successful and wealthy ones. In any case, they will come in handy for the future ...
  45. -1
    24 February 2023 12: 45
    I, a simple private SA, even understand that it is necessary, first of all, to destroy the refineries, gas stations, railways and power plants, and secondly, to destroy the Jewish-Nazi leadership of Bandera. For some reason, sidelocks stick out from every corner of Ukraine. And judging by the supplies from Russia to our obvious enemies, we have too. And do not attribute me to anti-Semites. Among the rabid Russophobes, ours and not ours, half are Jews. Everyone closes their eyes in shame. How about the Holocaust. Explain to me how the death of a Russian child differs from the death of a Jewish one? Belarusians, for example, are also a small nation, millions of them also died. And how many Russian lives did it take to save the rest of the Jewish people? Something I don’t see crowds of Jews in the military registration and enlistment offices, and Israel’s help in the destruction of the new Nazis.
    1. -1
      27 February 2023 21: 02
      Until very recently, the Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully traveled and flew on Russian and Belarusian fuel.
      So ...
  46. +3
    24 February 2023 21: 17
    CONCLUSION: Russia possesses a nuclear deterrent that
    DOES NOT KEEP ANYONE!
  47. 0
    25 February 2023 03: 11
    You can not cut off the snake's head, you can remove her teeth!
  48. -1
    27 February 2023 21: 00
    It seems that the most gloomy predictions will come true.
    They themselves are to blame: the mediocrely prepared and even more mediocrely conducted protracted NWO, which has become like a STRANGE military operation, simply provokes strikes on Russian cities = at least to test new Western equipment that is freely delivered to Ukraine.
  49. +1
    28 February 2023 23: 27
    It is necessary to blow up the bridges on the Dnieper. Everything is better together. Underwater saboteurs, concrete-piercing Fabs, Iskanders, Daggers. Break bridges. And everything Nazi that is east of the Dnieper to annihilate. And to strike not from the side of Artemovsk, but from the rear, from the side of the Sumy region, for example ...
  50. 0
    2 March 2023 21: 33
    for arrivals on the territory of Russia, it is necessary to respond once with special ammunition .... better in Kyiv, so that Ukrainians remember what Chernobyl is
  51. 0
    April 7 2023 12: 28
    The only thing that will help against drones is the creation of civilian air defense centers with anti-drone equipment (these are fpv interceptors, reconnaissance aircraft, anti-drone guns) similar to DOSAAF, but not as part of DOSAAF, otherwise everything will be ruined.
    All these nets, balloons and other statics fly around at once. Large-scale use will crack the budget.
    A simple example: the border is still open even to manned light civil aviation, and this is an order of magnitude more visible and easily eliminated target.
  52. -2
    April 16 2023 19: 57
    If you can’t strike at Bankovaya...
    If you issue a warrant for arrest or liquidation, Ze, Za, Re, Shmy, Ku cannot...
    If you can’t shoot from each cannon 5 times a minute towards the enemy...
    If a snake appeared in our Ministry of Defense, calling on citizens to unite to help those who are not fighting, but are simply taking part in the North Military District (this is a tank biathlon where everyone will be alive)...
    If the Poles and Hungarians have already spoken out against Ukraine about the grain deal, and we, or rather those who make decisions, are still thinking about the Duma...
    I agree that everyone from 18 to 180 years old should have an account with the State Services.
    The authorities will figure out who is in the army and who is sad in the forest.
  53. -2
    April 16 2023 20: 10
    Quote: Rinat Khametov
    for arrivals on the territory of Russia, it is necessary to respond once with special ammunition .... better in Kyiv, so that Ukrainians remember what Chernobyl is


    So Yes.

    But it would be good to remind our Government...
    If at the beginning of February you say that we are not planning and are not going to, then you start the SVO, then maybe at least in some subtle form you can apologize to the people?
    Before calling to rally for the People's War. Which doesn't exist.
    There is no war. It's clear. Resources are tradable. Tourism is flyable. How many cars are there that the Federal Tax Service classifies as luxury?
    Why did the damned West impose sanctions on vehicles over a certain amount for delivery to Russia?
    So that bakers, masons, programmers, teachers, doctors, car mechanics, cashiers, farmers and all other similar oligarchs feel discomfort.

    What is Chernobyl...
    Are there any participants in the Government? In our Government?
  54. +1
    1 May 2023 09: 08
    I apologize, of course, but if Ukraine wanted to follow the path of terrorist attacks on schools, hospitals, etc., then why hasn’t this been done in these more than a year? I myself am from Bryansk, a border region, and there are many civilian targets here. However, there is still silence. And in the country as a whole, have you heard a lot about such attacks? But if the hospital had been hit, there would have been dozens of victims. You can't hide something like this.
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