Merchant fleet as an element of the sea power of the state

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Merchant fleet as an element of the sea power of the state
There is no military power without military transportation. Exercises on loading military equipment on board the FESCO (Far Eastern Shipping Company, FESCO) dry-cargo ship Captain Krems. Vladivostok, 2017. Photo: smitsmitty.livejournal.com


Alfred Mahan, in his work "The Influence of Sea Power on history 1660-1783", issued in 1889, defined sea power (Sea Power) as follows:



... the history of coastal nations was determined less by the insight and foresight of governments than by the conditions of position, extent, outline of the coast, the number and nature of the population - that is, in general, by what is called natural conditions. However, it must be admitted - and the correctness of this will be clear from a further exposition - that the wise and stupid deeds of individuals have in certain epochs a great influence on the development of maritime power in a broad sense, which embraces not only military power on the water, dominating the sea or on one or another part of it by force weapons, but also peaceful merchant shipping, from which alone the navy arises in a natural way and on which only it firmly relies "(" The Influence of Sea Power on History 1660-1783 ").

Domestic military historian captain 1st rank V.D. Dotsenko even came up with a symbolic formula for sea power, SP=N+MM+NB (Sea Power = Navy/Navy + merchant marine/Merchant marine + naval bases/Naval bases).

It would seem that the merchant fleet is one of the components of sea power, but this is not obvious. After all, you can build a strong navy, capture / rent naval bases abroad and control the sea at your discretion. What does the civilian fleet have to do with it? To provide bases and ships, not the largest fleet auxiliary ships subordinate to the Navy.

In the sailing era, the presence of a large merchant fleet guaranteed the number of sailors in the country. Accordingly, they could be called up to the navy if necessary. There were, of course, different fleet manning systems in those days. For example, in the Russian Empire, the navy was staffed with recruits, and no one was particularly interested in what the recruit did before the call and what it had to do with the sea.

But it is generally accepted that the most powerful navy at that time was the Royal Navy, which until the end of the Napoleonic Wars was equipped with the so-called. pressure, i.e., in preparing the fleet for the campaign, soldiers and marines combed the coastal cities and grabbed all the civilian sailors they came across (and not only, any tramp could fall under pressure), and escorted them to the ships. From which the sailors were not released until the end of the war, so as not to run away.

The system may look barbaric now, but it provided Britain with the strongest navy in the world at the time. And it is obvious that the presence of a large civilian fleet, which served as a training unit for the military, was critical for the British Empire.

But those days are over.

Since the middle of the XNUMXth century, quite different requirements have been imposed on civilian and military sailors, and their various structures are prepared according to different methods. Although still in some specialties, military and civilian sailors are interchangeable with minimal retraining. Therefore, the civilian fleet cannot be considered as a source of manpower for the military. For example, the US Navy has a reserve officer training system, and most of these reservists are non-civilian sailors.
Maybe the civilian fleet is needed as a source of ships that can be mobilized and converted into ships?

This is partly true, but only partly. Civilian ships can theoretically be converted into small patrol boats / corvettes / IPCs and minesweepers. Fishing vessels are suitable for these purposes (for example, the Project 503 STR was converted into a minesweeper during mobilization). But the fact of the matter is that fishing. And where is the place for the merchant, i.e. transport, fleet?

There is an idea to turn container ships into auxiliary cruisers by installing the Club-K container missile weapon system with Kh-35UE or Kalibr anti-ship missiles on them.


Export version of the Uranus missile weapon system with 3M24 anti-ship missiles (X-35 marine version) in a container (20-foot container) version. Auxiliary cruisers based on merchant ships can be armed with such launchers. Photo: Rocketry website (missilery.info)

But, firstly, the idea is controversial. She has no solid justification. Secondly, how many such cruisers are needed? No, not much. If the idea makes sense, they can all be kept in an auxiliary fleet or even mothballed.

It is possible, following the example of the Atlantic Conveyor, to turn a container ship into an ersatz aircraft carrier. But, again, the idea is controversial, and many courts are not required for its implementation. The whole complexity of such alterations and their ambiguous results can be found in the article by A. Timokhin Non-aircraft carriers and their aircraft. A little about the ersatz aircraft carriers of the 80s ".

The civil fleet can transfer part of the ships to serve the ships in the bases - bunkerers, small dry cargo ships, tugboats. But to provide ships at sea, specialized tankers are needed with offshore refueling systems and speeds higher than conventional tankers. It is better to keep such ships even in peacetime as part of the Navy, since their commercial operation is not profitable.

Conclusion No. 1. To serve as a source of human and material reserves for the Navy is a side, but not the main task of the civilian fleet. The main role of the civil fleet in the formation of sea power is transport.

A bit of history


1936–1939 Civil War in Spain. Supporting the Republicans, the USSR sent military aid by sea. A total of 51 vessel voyages were organized. The total tonnage of 50 steamships was 286 tons. Military equipment was delivered mainly by sea. Part of it went by rail from France, but it could only be delivered to France by sea.

1941–1945 The Great Patriotic War. During the war, 2 major evacuations of naval bases were carried out - Tallinn and Odessa; and one strategic landing operation - Kerch-Feodosiya. There were other fleet operations to transfer troops, and on the whole the use of transport ships was massive and of exceptional importance.

1962 Caribbean crisis. As part of Operation Anadyr, 50 personnel and up to 874 civilian personnel were deployed to Cuba; over 3 tons of material and technical means were transported. In July-October 000, 230 cargo and passenger ships took part in Operation Anadyr, which made 000 voyages to and from Cuba.


The Soviet merchant ship Metallurg Anosov is heading for Cuba. A US Navy destroyer is on a parallel course with an Orion aircraft flying over them. Caribbean Crisis, November 10, 1962. Photo: US Navy National Museum of Naval Aviation.

1964–1975 War in Vietnam. Due to political problems with China, military aid from the USSR was delivered to the DRV mainly by sea.

Now think about it, would the Soviet Union have been able to carry out these maritime transports without having a national merchant fleet? Foreign maritime carriers would begin to transport weapons from the Union, risking losing the ship in the port of unloading from sabotage or shelling, or falling under sanctions, or losing the ship after it was arrested at sea under a fictitious pretext with further confiscation. Only a national fleet under state control would do such a thing.

Conclusion No. 2 - Russia must recreate its national merchant fleet. It can be created in the form of a large state a shipping company subordinate to the Ministry of Transport, or in the form of a separate Ministry of the Navy. To whom nominally the fleet will be subordinated are the details. The main thing is that the ships sail under the Russian flag and, if necessary, go where they are needed.

Where are they needed?

1. Kaliningrad region. Since June 2022, Lithuania has been restricting land transit traffic with the Kaliningrad region. So far, it is limiting, but with the deepening of the Ukrainian crisis, it may stop altogether. Then the supply of the region will go only by sea. You can, of course, organize private carriers. But foreign shipowners will be afraid of sanctions, and national private shipowners will have enough tonnage to cover all the needs of the Kaliningrad region? A large state-owned company could find a reserve of tonnage, if necessary, break contracts for the transportation of goods from Russia in order to redirect it to Kaliningrad.

2. Republic of Crimea. Who can guarantee the existence of a land corridor to the Crimea and the serviceability of the Crimean bridge? Only the Department of Defense. Can the MO give a 100% guarantee? To be honest, no. There may well be a situation when the Crimea will be under blockade, and the supply will be possible only by sea. No transport aviation will not cope with the volume of transportation necessary for the Army and the civilian population.

3. Libya and Syria. I do not presume to argue whether it is worth supporting any side of the conflict in these countries, but since we have undertaken to supply weapons to someone, we must do it properly. Landing ships were used to organize the Syrian Express, which was many times more expensive than the use of conventional bulk carriers. Now there is Oboronlogistics LLC, which carries out transportation, including to Syria. We will talk about this company below.


Vessel "Oboronlogistics" "Sparta II". Novorossiysk, 2021. One of those that are now supplying the Russian group in Syria, and not only it. Photo: fleetphoto.ru

4. EU embargo on the import of Russian crude oil by sea and a ban on European companies to insure and transport raw materials from Russia by tankers to third countries. The oil that Russia sent to Europe until 2022 is now being redirected to Asia. As a result, the supply chain is lengthening. There is already a lack of tonnage, and this may become a problem for oil exports from Russia. As you understand, this item can overlap the previous three. "Oil-mother" is still driving us. It may not be good, but it's true.

Conclusion number 3 - Russia has where to send the tonnage of the fleet. And send them to where the commercial structure does not want to work or is afraid.

What is already there?


1. Oboronlogistics LLC. The company's fleet consists of 9 dry-cargo vessels with a deadweight of up to 10 tons. You can't call such a big company. Oboronlogistics was created to meet the needs of the Ministry of Defense, however, in addition, it also fulfills civilian orders. For example, it provides the Ust-Luga-Baltiysk ferry line.

July 7, 2022 FLAGSHIP. News river fleet. In July 2022, the ferries (Oboronlogistics) started delivering goods to the Kaliningrad region, the transit of which through Lithuania is limited.”

2. Sovcomflot. The company operates with a total deadweight of 11,67 million tons and specializes in the transportation of liquefied gas, oil and oil products. There are only two bulk carriers in the entire fleet of the company. For 2020, 82,8% of the company's shares belonged to the state. This is a very interesting state company - bоMost of the ships are registered under flags of convenience.

"MOSCOW, May 16, 2022 - RIA News. The Russian shipping company Sovcomflot has reduced its fleet to 111 ships, including the sale of 14 of its own ships, and reduced its accounts payable to $1,7 billion, the company said.
On May 13, 2022, PAO Sovcomflot completed the implementation of a number of measures aimed at restructuring the group's loan obligations, which contributed to the release of a significant part of the fleet from encumbrances. As a result of the actions taken, 14 vessels were sold. The number of the company's own fleet was reduced from 123 to 109 units, the share of the mortgaged vessels was reduced to 10%. The total composition of the fleet at the moment is 111 units. The group's total accounts payable decreased from $3 billion to $1,7 billion.

To put it simply, Sovcomflot sold part of its fleet after the start of the NWO in Ukraine. Realizing that the tonnage would not be superfluous for the country under the sanctions, the company's management sold the ships anyway. It is clear that SCF, as a commercial structure, acts in its own interests and worries, first of all, about its own survival. But the point is that State the company should prioritize the interests of the state, not its own.

3. PJSC "FESCO" (Far Eastern Shipping Company). The shipping company's fleet consists of 22 dry cargo ships. 8 of them with a total deadweight of 225 thousand tons sail under the flag of Cyprus, 14 vessels with a total deadweight of 132 thousand tons operate under the Russian flag.

MOSCOW, January 11, 2023 /TASS/. The Khamovnichesky Court of Moscow in a night session satisfied the claim of the Prosecutor General's Office on the conversion of the shares of the Far Eastern Shipping Company (FESCO, the international name is the FESCO group) into state revenue. This was reported to TASS by lawyer Mikhail Osherov.
“The court satisfied the claim of the prosecutor's office for the transfer of shares to the state,” the lawyer said.
According to the decision of the court, 92,4% of FESCO's shares were turned into state revenue.

That is, in fact, since 2023, FESCO has become a state-owned shipping company.

Historical experience


In 1856, the Russian Society of Shipping and Trade (ROPiT) was created on the Black Sea immediately after the Crimean War. To organize the society, the government allocated a loan for 20 years. It was also decided to pay the society from the treasury an annual allowance for the repair of steamships and an annual subsidy in the form of a pardon.

Before the newborn ROPiT, in addition to the development of merchant shipping, another task was tacitly set. The society was supposed to build merchant ships that, in the event of war, could perform combat missions, as well as create and maintain a base (crews, ports and repair facilities) necessary for the rapid reconstruction of the Black Sea Fleet (I recall, under the terms of the peace treaty concluded in 1856 , Russia could not have a military fleet on the Black Sea).

ROPiT steamships took part in the Russo-Turkish War of 1877–1878, the Russo-Japanese War of 1904–1905, the First World War. The activities of ROPiT ceased in 1918 after the nationalization of all property by the Soviet authorities.


Auxiliary cruiser "Vesta". Before the start of the Russian-Turkish war of 1877–1878, the ROPiT steamship. Photo: Naval Campaign magazine. 2011, no. 1

In 1878, in view of the threatened war, the Volunteer Fleet (Dobroflot) was created. This transport enterprise was intended for the transportation of goods and passengers (the main direction of transportation is from the European part of Russia to the Far East), and also served as a source of ships for mobilization. The steamships of Dobroflot were to become a reserve of transport ships and auxiliary cruisers.

In 1883, fleet management was transferred to the Naval Ministry. The activities of Dobroflot were unprofitable, therefore, since 1885, the Volunteer Fleet has received an annual pardon subsidy from the state treasury. In 1925, Dobroflot was included in the Sovtorgflot.

Foreign experience


United States, Sealift Command, abbreviated MSC (Eng. Military Sealift Command, MSC). The command consists of auxiliary courts subordinate to the government and staffed by civilian personnel. In some cases, it is supplemented by military personnel from the Navy or other departments. At the head of the command is a vice admiral or rear admiral. It is subordinate to the ILC to the naval forces and performs the same functions as the auxiliary fleet of the Navy in Russia.

The main difference is that the transport capabilities of the ILC greatly exceed the capabilities of our auxiliary fleet. To assess these opportunities, I can say that during the Persian Gulf War of 1990-1991. The ILC transported 11 million tons of military cargo. Up to 230 state-owned and chartered vessels were involved in the transportation. As of 2018, the Command's fleet consisted of 54 transport ships, excluding special purpose ships and ships used to support warships.


The KMP Pollux transport vessel is being unloaded at the anchorage. Busan, South Korea, 1998 Photo: US Department of Defense

The ILC is a powerful logistics operator under the control of the US Navy, providing America's global military presence. Without such an operator, maritime power is of limited value. The military fleet, which has seized dominance over sea communications and is not supported by the transport fleet, turns into a dog in the manger, i.e., it cannot provide its communications by sea.

In the US, such an operator is organized as a separate command, but it can also be organized as a state-owned shipping company. In this case, such a company will be able not only to provide military logistics, but also to solve economic problems.

What should be a state shipping company?


Russia needs a large shipping company with a fleet of ships for various purposes, i.e. dry cargo ships, tankers, and maybe special purpose ships.

At the level of the charter of the company, it must be determined that the company is credited by the state and primarily fulfills the state order for the transportation of export and coastal cargo or military equipment. In turn, the state guarantees the cargo base for the company. It is not difficult to implement this, there is still enough export in Russia. Also, at the level of the charter, a non-recurrence of the situation when a company sells its fleet during a threatened period should be provided.

What will we get from this?

1. Such a company will become a major player in the freight market, which will be able to influence the cost of freight.

2. In a large company, it will be easier to organize the accounting of ships and human resources for mobilization in case of war or during a threatened period. And now ships flying the Russian flag are registered with the military, but it is one thing to work with dozens of small shipowners, and another with one large one. In addition, it will be possible to form and monitor compliance with the requirements for the design of ships subject to mobilization - in small shipping companies this is an almost impossible task. The only obstacle here is the mess in the Ministry of Defense itself.

3. The state shipowner will be able to form an order for the construction and repair of ships in the USC. The quality of management at USC raises big questions. The cost of building and repairing ships in Russia is higher than, for example, in China. And if it is necessary to form a shipping company quickly, then it is better to purchase and repair ships in China. But theoretically (unfortunately, purely theoretically), if you have an order formation tool for the national industry, this is always good. Unfortunately, for this mechanism to work, a slightly different level of government is needed. Above what is now.

4. Consider this company not as a commercial enterprise that should make a profit. But as part of the infrastructure that ensures the functioning of the economy. Sanctions imposed against carriers of export cargo from Russia will not be terrible for us - Russia will have its own independent carrier.

5. The company will be planned-unprofitable. At best, it will work on self-sufficiency. There is nothing dramatic about this, international shipping is a business with a low profit margin of 2-4%. 6% is already a shipowner's dream.

6. In case of a very bad situation in the transportation market, the company will be able to decommission part of the fleet and put the ships into conservation, forming a reserve fleet. A similar procedure would be too burdensome for a small shipowner.

7. The company will be able to open shipping lines in areas where cargo traffic has not yet been formed, but could potentially grow over time. At first, carriers will suffer losses on this line, and it would be better if a state-owned company assumes these losses. The modern global market is disintegrating, and the opening of new lines is becoming an urgent task.

And once again about ship repair.

In general, ship repair is a misfortune for the Russian fleet. Warships in our country can be repaired for years, civil ships - for months. For comparison, the repair of a 15-year-old ship in China can be completed in about a month. Such terms of repair in Russia scare away shipowners. The shipping company cannot afford to take the ship out of service for a few extra months. Therefore, they prefer to be repaired in Turkey, South Korea, China, but not in Russia. There was such a situation in Soviet times.

The ship repair industry needs to be reformed, and the legal framework related to ship repair also needs to be reformed. But it is one thing to reform the industry with the injection of state money into it in the hope of an order that may not be received, and another thing is to inject money, knowing that they will pay off at the expense of the state order formed by the state shipping company. If the level of ship repair in Russia is increased, this will reduce the repair time. As a result, ships will spend less time in the SRZ and more time in the ranks.

The growth of domestic ship repair capabilities will also contribute to the growth of the Navy's might.

The total displacement of the Navy ships as of January 1, 2023 is approximately 0,8 million tons. The total tonnage of Sovcomflot is approximately 11,6 million tons, approximately the total displacement of the company's ships as empty ships is 1,5 million tons. Obviously, warships are more difficult to repair than ships, but one can roughly say that one large shipping company has twice as much hardware that needs to be repaired than the entire Russian Navy. Therefore, the order received from the civilian fleet has a stronger impact on the ship repair industry, and can help bring it to a level where it will not take years to repair a ship.

What problems will arise when creating a company?

1. Home is a low level of government. If another “effective manager” is put in charge of the company, then the losses from it will exceed the allowable rate, and the whole idea will be discredited. However, fleet management is still not the most creative activity. The procedures were worked out back in Soviet times. The main thing here is not to make gross mistakes and not to steal the budget beyond measure (I don’t believe that they won’t steal at all). In addition, the economies of scale of a large company will compensate for the flaws in public administration. Therefore, there is hope that even our officials will cope with this task.

2. Manning ship crews. Since Soviet times, Russia has inherited not the worst (though not ideal) system of maritime education. There are maritime personnel in the country, but the best of them go to work in foreign companies. It will be extremely difficult to lure people to work in a state-owned firm. It is obvious that the salary in it will not be the highest. Perhaps non-trivial measures are required. For example, for young people, 2 years of work in the civilian fleet can be introduced as an alternative to military service. Or guarantee a reservation against mobilization for company employees. In our difficult time, this can significantly help in the recruitment of crews.

Although there is a fairly high probability that due to sanctions pressure, foreign firms will refuse the services of Russian specialists. Then the sailors will have no choice but to go to work on ships under the Russian flag. A large shipping company in this case will look like a good alternative to small firms from the "Horns and Hooves" category.

3. Sanctions.

First, sanctions for the purchase of ships. The ideal solution is to build ships at our own shipyards. Theoretically it is possible, practically everything is difficult. Domestic shipbuilding has degraded to hull building. Yes, and in this we are already technologically behind. Filling the hull with ship equipment is a separate sore point. The share of imported equipment reaches 70%. However, production technologies are still there, albeit outdated in places. For example, Russia can still produce diesel engines for ships. Marine diesel engines are structurally simpler than ship engines, but production is limited by the lack of serial production and, accordingly, inadequate cost. In this case, it is a large state-owned company that will be able to form a large order that will ensure serial production. Due to serialization, it will be possible to pull up technologies.

Another option for circumventing sanctions, as mentioned above, is to purchase ships or elements of ship equipment in China. Although this is not a universal solution. Some Chinese companies are refusing to work with Russia because of the threat of sanctions.

Secondly, sanctions for the insurance of ships and cargo.

"Moscow, June 14 - IA Neftegaz.RU. The Russian National Reinsurance Company (RNRC) has become the key reinsurer for Russian vessels, including Sovcomflot (SKF) tankers.
On June 10, 2022 Reuters reported about it with reference to sources.
It hasn't been a secret for a long time.
Problems with the insurance of ships, including tankers carrying Russian oil, arose after the imposition of Western sanctions.
Western companies withdrew insurance coverage from the sanctioned SCF.
On June 3, 2022, the EU imposed a partial embargo on Russian oil and banned EU companies from insuring its supplies to third countries.
Earlier, the Financial Times wrote that the EU agreed to introduce a similar ban on insurance with the UK, which accounts for about 90% of the tanker shipping insurance market.
Without waiting for the imposition of sanctions, at the end of April 2022, Russian insurance companies reached out for reinsurance at RNPK, a subsidiary of the Bank of Russia.
And when the Central Bank of the Russian Federation increased the guaranteed capital of the RNRC from 37 to 750 billion rubles, the transfer of contracts to the RNBC for reinsurance became massive.”

To put it simply, foreign companies refuse to insure Russian ships and cargoes as part of sanctions pressure. In response, the Bank of Russia increased the capital of RNPK so that it could provide state guarantees to Russian insurance companies that insure Russian tankers carrying oil. So the sanctions for insurance, if desired, can also be circumvented.

Is it possible to do without all this?

There is a black freight market that transports sanctioned goods. Without much advertising, everyone who needs it uses it, including some American companies. Theoretically, sanctioned goods from Russia can also be exported using the black market. But no one guarantees the stability of this market. In addition, no one guarantees the safety of ships operating on the black market.

Organizing another hotbed of piracy somewhere in Africa or Southeast Asia is not difficult. And surprisingly, the ships of NATO and EU countries may not notice piracy in a certain area. After all, a hybrid war can also be waged at sea. Piracy is a great tool for this. In such a situation, a state ship under the Russian flag will be protected not only by a detachment of marines or PMC fighters, but by the flag itself. And it is not known which protection will be more reliable.

Russia is waging a hybrid war in the context of the global crisis. And the crisis will not end soon. The global world economy is falling apart, economic protectionism is on the rise. It's not about whether it's good or bad - it's a fact, and we must adapt to it. A powerful national merchant fleet is an instrument of the economic war that Russia is forced to wage. It is needed not even for development, but for the survival of the country.
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  1. +11
    22 February 2023 04: 04
    There were about a hundred steamships in SakhMP OJSC, 13 remained .... Everything is used. Of the Russian three ferries, one is always under repair. Somewhere, two more ferries are being built, BUT - the mooring complex is "frozen" with N.G. The port has been empty for weeks. It's sad....
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 07: 42
      Russia must recreate its national merchant fleet. It can be set up as a large state-owned shipping company under the Ministry of Transport, or as a separate Ministry of the Navy.

      1. Share and privatize later. We know we passed. We were in this class.
      2. All these really good ideas are shattered by the swamp of neglected corruption.
  2. +8
    22 February 2023 04: 32
    Merchant fleet as an element of the sea power of the state

    This policy of huckstering has already taken root in the liver.
    Did malls and supermarkets help us during the NWO? Helps Russia trade in hydrocarbons in the creation of composites and electronics? Did Russia add 50 million tons of export grain of domestic aircraft for Aeroflot or did these private airlines improve the service?
    The navy and the army are a real and always in demand (indispensable) element of the power of ANY STATE !!!
    1. +6
      22 February 2023 05: 30
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Did malls and supermarkets help us during the NWO?

      Can the mall transfer equipment and equipment to Syria or Algeria?
      It’s absolutely not necessary to burn the TRANSPORT fleet with plasma ...
    2. +7
      22 February 2023 06: 26
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The navy and the army are a real and always in demand (indispensable) element of the power of ANY STATE !!!

      Especially when weapons for this fleet and army are produced at their own factories, in their own design bureaus and from their own components ...
    3. +2
      23 February 2023 17: 28
      All of this above business as in any way brings money. And money is the blood of the state. Since the country is capitalist with a market economy, up to and everything necessary for the same army is purchased. And to buy something, you need money. The problem is not in trading, but in the fact that the profit from all these sources goes into the hands of the leadership of private firms and deputies, and not in the state. treasury.
    4. 0
      25 February 2023 18: 18
      The third most powerful fleet and the first most powerful land army also somehow did not help the Soviet Union. Maybe because you need to be able to use the tools (economic in this case), and not wait for them to do everything themselves?
    5. +1
      27 February 2023 04: 41
      The fact of the matter is that I propose to move from a policy of huckstering to a rational organization of the national economy. Russia has a huge export cargo base. Who will get this base can be regulated by legislation. Accordingly, it should go to Russian shipowners (private or public - this is another matter). So that ships under Russian flags pay taxes to the state treasury. Through shipping, ship repair and shipbuilding can be brought up, which, if necessary, can be used for the production of weapons. For example, at Dalzavod (a shipyard in Vladivostok) during the Second World War, PPSh was produced. Here is the benefit for the Army and Navy.
  3. +17
    22 February 2023 05: 51
    The company will be planned-unprofitable. At best, it will work on self-sufficiency. There is nothing dramatic about this, international shipping is a business with a low profit margin.
    No, well, why immediately unprofitable ...
    Shipping companies' revenues have risen to a 13-year high, Bloomberg reported. Container shipping prices are rising the most, according to Clarkson Research Services. ) — sector earnings hit an 11-year high. And the demand for shipping is so great that some bulk carriers even began to carry containers on their decks, the agency writes.
    No, well, if you don’t give thieving officials raking hands, then they can make any company unprofitable ..
    1. +6
      22 February 2023 23: 34
      Quote from Queen_Annes_Revenge
      Shipping companies' earnings rose to a 13-year high, Bloomberg reported.

      That was last year, now freight rates have fallen again - both container and bulk carriers. Who managed to - earned, and on the sale of steamers as well.
  4. +6
    22 February 2023 06: 24
    I read it in one breath! Authors - respect!
  5. +12
    22 February 2023 08: 08
    Here's one thing that interests me. When Peter the Great dragged Russia by the ears into the seas, he naturally thought of the merchant fleet as well. At times, the Russian navy ranked third in the world after the British and French, in Soviet times it was even second (and according to formal criteria - tonnage and the number of pennants, it was very likely quite comparable to the US Navy).

    Can we say the same about the Russian merchant fleet at least for some period of time in the past? It has now become clear that we are no longer very willing to carry oil, we had to scrape troughs in all the sedimentation tanks. How to go hunting - so feed the dogs. That's why Russian business is so spit? Why do we always have a cart before the horse - is it the needs of the navy that "drag" the transport one behind them, and not vice versa?
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 17: 36
      The problem is the sanctions, the Russian industry is simply too tough to master the full chain of ship production with the current complexity of production. The Russian Federation is no longer the USSR, which had 260 million people and the Warsaw Pact. Until 2014, the situation was quite good, for example, in 2013 a total of a little more than 79 civilian ships were produced and the figure grew every year, but now in 2022 only 55 were able to master. Shipyard Zvezda, for example, after the departure of the Koreans, moved the deadlines for the delivery of the lead gas carrier. Now, when the world is dominated by the division of labor and globalization, it is necessary to try not to substitute imports, but to integrate into existing chains and try to compete in the world market, i.e. The government needs to work first on lifting the sanctions.
      1. 0
        23 February 2023 17: 45
        And what were the sanctions in the 2000s? Or in the second half of the 90s?
        Well, it is clear that at that time oil prices made it possible to sell it to the world market and make profits, even despite spending in the form of buying or renting ships from other countries and companies. Oil prices allowed.
        But nevertheless, then there was still infrastructure, there were specialists, relations with the Baltic States and Ukraine then were not like they are now. But no, the leadership of both companies and ministries and the country, NOBODY had the idea "what if it won't always be like this." But the idea of ​​"more money" did not leave them.

        And the sanctions will not be lifted! Even if everything turns out favorably from the view of the liberals (some kind of Navalny becomes president, the economy is liberalized even more, the NVO is canceled and surrendered to Ukraine, political and economic groups are formed that will fight in the elections for the illusion of choice, etc.), the country will not integrate into world economic chain as an important element of the global level, it will simply become a raw material platform. Not to mention the fact that if the hypothetical pro-Western leadership of the country, having integrated into the world economy, wants to increase its role and influence in order to obtain greater profits. Then the Europeans / Americans themselves will not allow the appearance of a competitor. And it doesn’t matter that the leadership will have a “protege of all that is good against all that is bad” who idolizes Western values ​​- they will not allow a competitor to appear.
        1. 0
          24 February 2023 12: 02
          And now it’s not a raw material platform?
          In the structure of Russian exports in 2021, the main share of deliveries fell on the following types of goods:
          Mineral products (TN VED codes 25-27) - 57,40% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 51,19%);
          Metals and metal products (TN VED codes 72-83) - 10,65% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 10,37%);
          Chemical industry products (TN VED codes 28-40) - 7,85% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 7,11%);
          Food products and agricultural raw materials (TN VED codes 01-24) - 7,48% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 8,80%);
          Precious metals and stones (TN VED code 71) - 6,58% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 9,03%);
          Machinery, equipment and vehicles (TN VED codes 84-90) - 5,35% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 5,73%);
          Wood and pulp and paper products (TN VED codes 44-49) - 3,54% of the total volume of Russian exports (in 2020 - 3,68%).

          Those. in fact, the same thing, but now we can’t even buy what we want with the money we receive (high-precision machine tools / industrial robots).
    2. +5
      22 February 2023 20: 31
      Quote: Dimax-Nemo
      in Soviet times, it was even second (and according to formal criteria - tonnage and the number of pennants, it was very likely quite comparable to the US Navy).

      The submarine fleet of the Soviet Union was much larger than the American one, including submarines (late 80s). So on the Soviet SSBNs, the USSR Navy had 950 SLBMs, and the USA - 600. And in terms of the number of pennants, we greatly outnumbered the US Navy ... but in terms of the quality of the surface fleet ... request but we also tried for the last 15 years of the life of the Soviet Union in terms of the annual tonnage of ships built, we and the United States actually went head to head. If the USSR had lived for another 10 years, then we would have caught up in the surface fleet (the United States had many old ships that were close to decommissioning dates, and they built no more new ones than us. And by that time we would have had at least 10 in service aircraft carriers... Of these, at least 4 nuclear.
      Quote: Dimax-Nemo
      It has now become clear that we are no longer very willing to carry oil, we had to scrape troughs in all the sedimentation tanks.

      Over the past year, Russian companies bought about 500 ocean-class merchant ships on the secondary market, and such purchases are likely to continue.
      But . Since these vessels are no longer young, the question arises of their repair and maintenance of technical suitability. There are hopes for foreign repair plants, but in the light of the promotion of the sanctions war, they may become inaccessible to us. This means that it is necessary to rapidly develop ship repair capacities ... which were insufficient in the USSR too ... And the author is right, the main trouble of the Russian Federation is the catastrophically low level (QUALITY) of public administration.
      Quote: Dimax-Nemo
      That's why Russian business is so spit?

      And why do they need an extra burden?
      Business?
      They make money. And they prefer to spend them on useful things. In addition, those vessels that are owned by the "domestic business" with offshore registration. Therefore, they are being repaired abroad, where it is faster and cheaper.
      A STATE PROGRAM for the construction of the Merchant Fleet and all the infrastructure for it is NEEDED. And only Russian registration of ships for domestic companies.
      And you shouldn't ... blame the "domestic" business, they usually also have offshore registration - so as not to pay taxes. They took all their profits offshore ... now many probably regret it, but ... it's time to FORCE them to invest in Russia, in the same shipbuilding and ship repair.
  6. +11
    22 February 2023 11: 21
    Russia needs a large shipping company with a fleet of ships for various purposes, i.e. dry cargo ships, tankers, and maybe special purpose ships.

    At the level of the charter of the company, it must be determined that the company is credited by the state and primarily fulfills the state order for the transportation of export and coastal cargo or military equipment. In turn, the state guarantees the cargo base for the company.

    Everything has already been thought of before us. And without state companies.
    By the mid-30s, the United States faced the problem of the obsolescence of the merchant fleet. Almost the entire fleet of ships was built during the WWI or before it and no longer met the new requirements. Competitiveness was falling, and with it, profits. This problem was not solved head-on - primarily due to higher prices and low productivity of American shipyards of that time. The new vessels simply turned out to be too expensive and unprofitable to operate.
    In parallel, the state needed a reserve of "hardware" and personnel for the impending big war.
    The way out was found: state subsidies in exchange for loyalty. The Merchant Marine Act of 1936 was adopted, according to which the state subsidized the construction (1936 - 50 ships annually, 1940 - 200 ships annually) and the operation of ships of private companies in exchange for the fulfillment by private companies of a number of conditions: registration of ships only under the American flag, 90% staffing of teams by US citizens (even Filipinos were fired), the possibility of mobilizing ships and teams during the war. In short, hello to the market economy and non-intervention of the state in the market. smile
    If you want new ships and a reduction in construction and operation costs, follow the requirements of the state. No? Well, no, no money.

    The entire Liberty-Victory program became possible precisely as a result of the adoption of this Act - even before the war, the United States began to prepare industry and government for the mass construction of ships.
    1. 0
      27 February 2023 04: 18
      Perhaps you are right. Some law similar to the Merchant Marine Act of 1936 would be a good alternative to a state-owned company. But think about whether our government likes to give subsidies to small and medium-sized businesses? No. Large companies (especially state-owned ones) in Russia are more willing to receive subsidies than small and medium ones. It may not be good, but such are our political traditions. I think it is more difficult to change them than to build a civilian fleet.
  7. +10
    22 February 2023 12: 18
    China is not rich in marine diesel engines, they depend on three world brands from the EU. Under license, they are produced in China, but white gentlemen are sitting on the sale and commissioning. The control is very serious, to such an extent that all spare parts for Sovcomflot are now mined at the shipbreaking site in Alang and Chittagong. To order a ship in China, you have to stand in line for 5 years, everything is busy. The times of captures and promotion of lines remained in the 80s, now everything belongs to the 10 largest companies such as Mersk, MSC, SMA, Cosco, and together with ports, service staff and bunkering. Russia was banned from entering the main ports of the world, even in Bangladesh, so it will not be possible to build from scratch, time was lost in the 90s and zero. So far, the best option is a phantom fleet registered for Abdul, except for the secondary, there is nowhere to take large ships.
    1. +5
      22 February 2023 14: 06
      "Amazing" (I have no doubt that you wrote, but I state the state of affairs). Can we repair these old troughs ourselves? I'm afraid not.
  8. +6
    22 February 2023 15: 11
    The ideas expressed by the author in the article are absolutely sound, but their implementation has serious limitations:
    1) Own merchant fleet for the existing foreign trade flow is extremely small, has a solid age, for a number of positions (bulk carriers for transporting coal and grain, ro-ro, sea and river container ships, refrigerated vessels) is completely absent or has a small tonnage.
    2) Russian shipbuilding has big problems inherited from the collapse of the USSR. Russian shipbuilding, especially its maritime part, has a pronounced military orientation; with civilian ships, there are successes only in certain niches (icebreakers, river-sea vessels, tugboats, fish and crab fishermen). The biggest problems are with the construction of medium and large-capacity vessels. With the collapse of the USSR, 2/3 of large-tonnage shipbuilding remained in Ukraine, where they were successfully destroyed. The rest of the shipbuilding industry can either build warships, in the moments of downtime, trading with state civilian orders, or vice versa. The task of simultaneously building both the military and civil fleet is not being solved in principle, for this it is necessary to TRIPLE shipbuilding capacities in certain important areas (the Far East and the South-East of the country). WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STACKS OF ALL TYPES FOR BOOKING VESSELS, PARTICULARLY DRY DOCKS WITH HIGH CAPACITY CRANES!
    3) It is also necessary to quickly resolve the issue of import substitution. First of all, the complete absence of companies in marine engines, modern ship mechanics, hydraulics and automation, in addition to all types of metalworking machines and lines, crane equipment, port mechanization and much more. The production lines of shipyards are morally obsolete and, despite targeted investments in modernization, remain generally archaic. Despite the rather large number of shipyards, more than 60% of them are river or river / sea and, according to their parameters, cannot build ships with a displacement of more than 10 tons, the rest can build ships with a displacement of more than 000 with great difficulty, and only a few are able to mass-produce ships with a displacement of more than 30 tons. The commissioning of the 000st and 70nd stages of the Zvezda SSC in Bolshoy Kamen will partially alleviate the problem, but will not solve it - at least two more such powerful shipbuilding complexes are needed: one in the Baltic, the second in the South -East - Crimea-Krech.
    1. +3
      22 February 2023 20: 46
      Quote: Bekasov Artem Andreevich
      at least two more such powerful shipbuilding complexes are needed: one in the Baltic, the second in the South-East - Krym-Krech.

      In the Baltic in Kronstadt, they were going to build another shipyard even larger than in Bolshoy Kamen, and in Kerch - only the expansion of the "Gulf" by 2-3 times.
      But how long will they be built?
      "Zvezda" has been under construction for so long and to this day has not been completed. And now with sanctions ... But ship repair capacities need to be developed at a faster pace, because last year alone, about 500 large ocean-going ships were purchased, not new ones, they will have to be repaired and maintained. And there are already a LOT of them.
    2. -1
      25 February 2023 20: 40
      “The remaining shipbuilding industry can either build warships, in the moments of downtime, hunting for state civilian orders, or vice versa.”

      Maybe they just work badly organized? For example, long-term construction may be due to the fact that the shipbuilder does not bear any responsibility for poor work. And if he carried, then they would move faster.

      “The task of simultaneously building both the military and civil fleet is not being solved in principle, for this it is necessary to TRIPLE shipbuilding capacities in certain critical areas”

      Nobody says that you need to build up your fleet at an accelerated pace. This needs to be done gradually but steadily.
      On the other hand, if it is necessary to do this at an accelerated pace, then shipbuilding capacities can be tripled in a couple of five-year plans, if the whole country invests resources in this.
  9. +6
    22 February 2023 16: 11
    In the yard in the Russian Federation, feudal capitalism, comprador power, a raw material colony. There is no industry. Sanctions. Let's build ships and ships. Where ? Of what ? Who will build?
  10. +2
    22 February 2023 21: 42
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Merchant fleet as an element of the sea power of the state

    This policy of huckstering has already taken root in the liver.
    Did malls and supermarkets help us during the NWO? Helps Russia trade in hydrocarbons in the creation of composites and electronics? Did Russia add 50 million tons of export grain of domestic aircraft for Aeroflot or did these private airlines improve the service?
    The navy and the army are a real and always in demand (indispensable) element of the power of ANY STATE !!!

    Explain why supermarkets and malls did not please you? The bad thing is that there is an opportunity to sell grain or other export goods (it would be better, of course, to process and sell flour). The USSR went out of their way to sell more goods for foreign currency, because they could not do without imports even then, with a much stronger industry. Do not believe sane people like that bananas and tangerines can be bought at any time of the year, and not 1.5 kg for the New Year's table. About the fleet and the army, it’s not entirely true - the power of the state is determined primarily by economic power, it was before WWI that the one who had the stronger army won, due to short-term super-efforts, but as a result of the WWI and WWII, it turned out that it was not important short-term super-efforts, and how much the economy can withstand serious stress. If now, plus the existing sanctions, to be left without a merchant fleet, then this will lead to an even greater curtailment of the economy, but as I understand it, your ideal is guns instead of butter? But today, without trade, which is the engine of the economy and, consequently, progress, it is impossible to have a strong army or a strong fleet, you cannot create electronics with a pick and a shovel. Excessive enthusiasm for the army and navy is a repetition of what has already passed - 50 thousand tanks, but the queue is 8-10 years for a budget car.
  11. -1
    22 February 2023 22: 09
    Quote: bayard
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    in Soviet times, it was even second (and according to formal criteria - tonnage and the number of pennants, it was very likely quite comparable to the US Navy).

    The submarine fleet of the Soviet Union was much larger than the American one, including submarines (late 80s). So on the Soviet SSBNs, the USSR Navy had 950 SLBMs, and the USA - 600. And in terms of the number of pennants, we greatly outnumbered the US Navy ... but in terms of the quality of the surface fleet ... request but we also tried for the last 15 years of the life of the Soviet Union in terms of the annual tonnage of ships built, we and the United States actually went head to head. If the USSR had lived for another 10 years, then we would have caught up in the surface fleet (the United States had many old ships that were close to decommissioning dates, and they built no more new ones than us. And by that time we would have had at least 10 in service aircraft carriers... Of these, at least 4 nuclear.
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    It has now become clear that we are no longer very willing to carry oil, we had to scrape troughs in all the sedimentation tanks.

    Over the past year, Russian companies bought about 500 ocean-class merchant ships on the secondary market, and such purchases are likely to continue.
    But . Since these vessels are no longer young, the question arises of their repair and maintenance of technical suitability. There are hopes for foreign repair plants, but in the light of the promotion of the sanctions war, they may become inaccessible to us. This means that it is necessary to rapidly develop ship repair capacities ... which were insufficient in the USSR too ... And the author is right, the main trouble of the Russian Federation is the catastrophically low level (QUALITY) of public administration.
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    That's why Russian business is so spit?

    And why do they need an extra burden?
    Business?
    They make money. And they prefer to spend them on useful things. In addition, those vessels that are owned by the "domestic business" with offshore registration. Therefore, they are being repaired abroad, where it is faster and cheaper.
    A STATE PROGRAM for the construction of the Merchant Fleet and all the infrastructure for it is NEEDED. And only Russian registration of ships for domestic companies.
    And you shouldn't ... blame the "domestic" business, they usually also have offshore registration - so as not to pay taxes. They took all their profits offshore ... now many probably regret it, but ... it's time to FORCE them to invest in Russia, in the same shipbuilding and ship repair.

    Explain what would give parity and superiority in submarines and aircraft carriers
    Quote: bayard
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    in Soviet times, it was even second (and according to formal criteria - tonnage and the number of pennants, it was very likely quite comparable to the US Navy).

    The submarine fleet of the Soviet Union was much larger than the American one, including submarines (late 80s). So on the Soviet SSBNs, the USSR Navy had 950 SLBMs, and the USA - 600. And in terms of the number of pennants, we greatly outnumbered the US Navy ... but in terms of the quality of the surface fleet ... request but we also tried for the last 15 years of the life of the Soviet Union in terms of the annual tonnage of ships built, we and the United States actually went head to head. If the USSR had lived for another 10 years, then we would have caught up in the surface fleet (the United States had many old ships that were close to decommissioning dates, and they built no more new ones than us. And by that time we would have had at least 10 in service aircraft carriers... Of these, at least 4 nuclear.
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    It has now become clear that we are no longer very willing to carry oil, we had to scrape troughs in all the sedimentation tanks.

    Over the past year, Russian companies bought about 500 ocean-class merchant ships on the secondary market, and such purchases are likely to continue.
    But . Since these vessels are no longer young, the question arises of their repair and maintenance of technical suitability. There are hopes for foreign repair plants, but in the light of the promotion of the sanctions war, they may become inaccessible to us. This means that it is necessary to rapidly develop ship repair capacities ... which were insufficient in the USSR too ... And the author is right, the main trouble of the Russian Federation is the catastrophically low level (QUALITY) of public administration.
    Quote: Dimax-Nemo
    That's why Russian business is so spit?

    And why do they need an extra burden?
    Business?
    They make money. And they prefer to spend them on useful things. In addition, those vessels that are owned by the "domestic business" with offshore registration. Therefore, they are being repaired abroad, where it is faster and cheaper.
    A STATE PROGRAM for the construction of the Merchant Fleet and all the infrastructure for it is NEEDED. And only Russian registration of ships for domestic companies.
    And you shouldn't ... blame the "domestic" business, they usually also have offshore registration - so as not to pay taxes. They took all their profits offshore ... now many probably regret it, but ... it's time to FORCE them to invest in Russia, in the same shipbuilding and ship repair.

    Explain that the USSR would give parity or even superiority in submarines, surface ships and even aircraft carriers? Even Marshal Ustinov, the super-lobbies of the military-industrial complex, was against the construction of aircraft carriers because it is very expensive, this is against the background of the fact that civil engineering lagged behind the level of developed Western countries by 20 years, because very little was allocated for the renewal of production funds. At IZHmash, for example, they were not able to pull the release of a licensed Honda engine, because on equipment that gives a tolerance of 10 acres, it is impossible to do what requires a tolerance of 10 thousandths. As a result, exports slid into the banal sale of raw materials, rather than high value-added products. Academician Utkin, the chief designer of the Yuzhnoye bureau, was a smart man, he said that with the installation of Voyevoda, she is also Satan, there will definitely not be a big war on the database, you can stop riveting thousands of tanks and invest in the civilian sector, in the development of scientific developments. PS: There is an opinion that Hitler simply had no choice not to start a big war, because due to the militarization of the economy without replenishment in the form of robbery of other countries, it could not exist in its normal form, and the overmilitarized Japan overstrained itself after one serious defeat during Midway, she could not withstand the arms race in the conditions of war.
    1. +1
      25 February 2023 20: 18
      >> Even Marshal Ustinov, the super-lobbies of the military-industrial complex, was against the construction of aircraft carriers because it is very expensive

      It would be better if Ustinov saved on missile cruisers and tanks. And in general, there is a suspicion that the fact of the matter is that it was not so expensive and that it was more convenient to cut loot without aircraft carriers.

      And without them, the USSR could no longer guarantee the security of its territory. Find the article "Unknown Soviet Pearl Harbor", it tells how in the 80s two US aircraft carriers approached the Soviet coast, and they could not even be found in time.


      >> Academician Utkin, the chief designer of the Yuzhnoye bureau, was a smart man, he said that with the setting of the Voyevoda, she is Satan on the database, there will definitely not be a big war

      Well, now we don’t have a big war, but we don’t have enough weapons.
  12. -1
    23 February 2023 13: 01
    Pavel Anatolyevich Mushnyaga, sea captain

    Vladivostok bursa .... Mr. Mushnyaga, your article is 40 years too late ... or did you write it purely for hype?
    1. +1
      27 February 2023 02: 43
      You can consider that for the hype. After all, I still can’t convince you (and I don’t want to). I'm just a captain in this system, and there's not much you can see from the captain's bridge. I myself would be interested to read a similar article only written by a shipowner, a freight broker, a high-ranking official of the Ministry of Transport, a USC manager or an admiral. Let this hype force one of the above to write a response text in which they will say "Mushnyaga, you are wrong because ..." and further point by point.

      Many flotophiles refer to Mahan's work, and Mahan considered civilian shipping to be the basis for the creation of a navy. So he was wrong? Or is his theory outdated? And if he is right, then why in the history of Russia very often the navy was disproportionately large in relation to the civilian one? It would be interesting to know the opinion of military sailors on this.

      40 years ago, the USSR had a great and powerful Ministry of the Navy, which solved all transport problems by sea. And then my article would not make sense. And even a couple of years ago it would not have made sense. And now, in the context of the NWO and sanctions, which will only intensify, the question arises: how to ensure the export of imports? Now they are being taken out by private traders, but they may be discouraged from doing so. How will we supply Crimea (or ensure evacuation) if something goes "not according to plan"?

      Of course, you can do without the fleet, relying on the help of Big Brother. Only for help, he can then ask for "performing a mass of small services." And as a result, the Vladivostok bursa will be renamed the Maritime University of the city of Haishenwei.
      1. 0
        2 March 2023 23: 44
        If you work in one of our offices - ask one of the coastal workers, for sure, at the captain's level, you are familiar not only with the crewing department.
        1. 0
          5 March 2023 16: 24
          Ask to conduct a study of the shipping industry in Russia and write an article on this topic? I'm afraid even for a tank of cognac familiar operators and brokers will not agree.
  13. -1
    24 February 2023 23: 22
    It is worth recalling the successful use by the Germans of raiders equipped from sea merchant and passenger ships on enemy communications remote from the theater of operations and auxiliary cruisers in the Republic of Ingushetia.

    Well, hospital ships
  14. 0
    25 February 2023 20: 08
    In my opinion, they did not say the most important thing.

    The civilian fleet (and the civilian economy in general) helps pay for the navy (and the military economy in general). At least partially.
    Of course, one can say that now the sailors of the civilian fleet do not go to the military, and military ships are built using different technologies than civilian ones. However, it cannot be that military and civil shipbuilding do not intersect in any way and nowhere, as well as personnel training. Like port infrastructure, navigation systems, the same ship repair, etc.
    The next stage is to understand that the “fleet for the sake of partial payback” is the infancy of the economy, and no matter what the fans of the maximum possible autarchy are, a developed economy for 150 million people cannot be built.
    And state support can provide foreign trade in the fleet. To do this, it is necessary to create conditions under which purely commercial companies connected with the state by a smaller number of threads will spin off from a “planned loss-making” or even “break-even, but also non-profitable” state-owned company. Only it is necessary to organize it according to the mind, and not in the form of a traditional sawmill.
    And military production only for the sake of military equipment, and even large-scale one, is in the long run too costly and leading to economic collapse.
  15. -1
    26 February 2023 11: 24
    Quote: Evil Eye
    >> Even Marshal Ustinov, the super-lobbies of the military-industrial complex, was against the construction of aircraft carriers because it is very expensive

    It would be better if Ustinov saved on missile cruisers and tanks. And in general, there is a suspicion that the fact of the matter is that it was not so expensive and that it was more convenient to cut loot without aircraft carriers.

    And without them, the USSR could no longer guarantee the security of its territory. Find the article "Unknown Soviet Pearl Harbor", it tells how in the 80s two US aircraft carriers approached the Soviet coast, and they could not even be found in time.


    >> Academician Utkin, the chief designer of the Yuzhnoye bureau, was a smart man, he said that with the setting of the Voyevoda, she is Satan on the database, there will definitely not be a big war

    Well, now we don’t have a big war, but we don’t have enough weapons.

    For good, it was necessary to save on tanks and cruisers and aircraft carriers. The SNF was a reliable guarantee that they would not attack the USSR, they could completely raise the national economy no worse than in Germany. The fact that after the collapse of the USSR no one attacked the Russian Federation is a confirmation of this.
    Who said that there are not enough weapons, I heard something else - there is everything you need in the right quantities, the rest seems to be enemy propaganda, or can you assume that from the high stands, the responsible persons are tritely lying?
  16. 0
    2 March 2023 23: 38
    This is all very good and right, of course, but by creating such a company, you will rather destroy even the potential possibility of the emergence of large private shipowners in Russia, and probably defeat many small ones, the freight (probably not very numerous anyway) of which will be drawn into such a company.

    First of all - provide the same amenities under the Russian flag as under "convenient" flags, as far as possible (and solve issues with the speed of registration, massive and complex checks (even African countries have already canceled those checks that are still being carried out in Russia , I'm not talking about the EU), as well as issues with taxes, registration fees, requirements for the citizenship of crew members and owners of shipping companies - all this can be solved).

    And in such conditions, as liberal as possible to shipping, it is already possible to create a state shipping company. But in no case should she be given a guaranteed cargo base, in no case should she receive separate funds from the budget in advance (I will explain - she should not lower freight rates to values ​​​​impossible for private shipowners through the use of budget financing). The company may be unprofitable, but the company's debt should not become a criterion for assessing the quality of its management. The criteria for assessing the quality of company management should be the state and number of ships, its non-interference in the current situation on the shipping market more than a similar private carrier would interfere. If such a company goes bankrupt - it must be subject to the same procedures as any other, New Zealand already has experience in transferring state-owned companies to the same operating principles as private offices. The only difference for this company should be that only in a situation where the government demands its courts, the government will compensate for the damage (and nothing else), and also that in case of bankruptcy, the government has a priority right to buy out the courts of this company (to form a similar other managers, but not through saving the existing one, because it is not the company itself that is important, but only the fleet, and its commercial activity is an attempt to at least slightly recoup the maintenance and purchase of such vessels).

    Well, or do it even easier - copy the Americans. They must have been thinking for a long time how to make sure that the transport fleet they needed did not interfere with the market (although they themselves killed it with the Jones Act of 1920).
    1. 0
      5 March 2023 16: 07
      Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I wanted to raise the problem of the merchant fleet, its role in shaping the sea power of the state and offer one of the options for solving the problem. Perhaps if we support private Russian shipowners on the principle of "Loyalty in exchange for subsidies (and / or cargo base)", it will be more effective than creating a state-owned company. To understand which path is optimal, the whole research institute must calculate and think. I assessed the problem on the sea bulging eye.

      I agree with most of your arguments, but fundamentally disagree on the issue of the cargo base. The cargo base is demand, and the presence of demand is critical for any business (any economic activity). If there is a demand, the company works, if there is no demand, no subsidies will help, the company will burn out. The export cargo base should go to Russian shipowners, and be divided evenly between the state-owned company and private owners. The possibility of dumping freight rates by the state-owned company should be used as a last resort to moderate the greed of carriers, and not to stifle all private traders in the industry. There is a lot of cargo base, so much that for the first time there will be enough for everyone. And when private shipowners grow up, perhaps a large state shipping company will not be needed, a small office like "Oboronlogistics" will be enough to support the Ministry of Defense.

      And further. In fact, a large state-owned shipping company has already been created, albeit under foreign flags - there is information on the Internet about 300 "Putin's tankers" that carry Russian oil. I doubt that this is the optimal solution, but big men know better. It's just that this example shows that it is possible to form a large state-owned company quite quickly. It takes time to grow a large (and therefore viable) private shipping company in Russia. Do we have it?
  17. 0
    3 May 2023 03: 45
    According to Sovcomflot. The sale of those ships was an extreme, forced measure, very painful. After all, they sold the most modern and unique ships. It is no secret that the fleet is being built on mortgages, and in the face of sanctions and restrictions on bank transfers, this decision was made. It was necessary to pay these mortgages for the entire fleet, and it is not small for the company. If it were not for this extreme measure, then the entire fleet would have been arrested all over the world for the company's debts. Throughout April and May, almost the company's ships stood without work, in reality the situation was alarming. Then, little by little, they began to work, somewhere according to the old schemes, somewhere with new clients. A year has passed since then, the Company has survived thanks to the whole team. The cost of a mistake was very high.
    From personal memories, how happy we were when the sale of two tankers was canceled at the very last moment. On one, all the supplies have already been unloaded, on the other, another crew has already arrived in Singapore. Has it been able to sustain the Companies under full government control? Not sure. And also from myself: it’s the state control bodies or the auditors of state corporations who make big steps for the crews, you won’t get such strict audits with nit-picking anywhere, except in Russian ports. Sincerely, KDP