Wings in Iranian style: the new reality of the Russian air fleet

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Wings in Iranian style: the new reality of the Russian air fleet
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February was marked by another change in the rules for the operation of civil aircraft. Rostransnadzor supported the idea of ​​carriers to extend the terms of maintenance of imported aircraft. This happened not because of the growth in the quality of Western aircraft and high reliability, but because of the banal lack of consumables and spare parts. Carriers have to spend more time and money to maintain the "combat readiness" of civilian equipment. Due to Western sanctions, difficulties with access to repair documentation, repair equipment and with the implementation of airworthiness directives have not yet been resolved. Marat Tereshchenko, adviser to the technical director of Aeroflot, announced the decision of the supervisory agency on February 13, and he separately specified that each fact of extending the service period would be considered by a board of several departments.



Maintaining the airworthiness of a passenger aircraft is the observance of a mass of strictly regulated procedures and rules. There are at least six types of maintenance of winged equipment or, in aviation, "checks" (Check). The aircraft is checked for at least three hours before each flight (Transit Check), after 24 hours (Daily Check), once a week (Weekly Check) and so on. The Russian aviation industry has been under Western sanctions for almost a year, which seriously complicates the maintenance of equipment. Someone puts planes on hold, someone uses old stocks of consumables and assemblies. Since then, every aircraft in Russian jurisdiction had to pass a B-check at least once - this is a long MOT for a couple of days in a special hangar. Labor costs up to 180 man-hours. Ahead of the operated aircraft is the C-check, according to the regulations of which the aircraft is absent from flights for a month and a half and requires 6000 man-hours.


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And, finally, almost to the screw, the plane is disassembled once every six to ten years. Of course, the deeper the check, the more spare parts the aircraft will require. Rostransnadzor extended the service interval for Western aircraft for an unspecified period. Here, an explanation is needed regarding flight safety in the new conditions. The fact is that aircraft manufacturers and carriers repeatedly reinsure themselves at the expense of the technical condition of civil aircraft. If a passenger airliner crashes to the ground and takes several hundred lives with it, reputational losses can ruin the entire aviation business of both the manufacturer and the operator. That is why in recent decades, technical reasons are less and less likely to lead to air crashes - the human factor is in the first positions. Moreover, both in ground services and in the cockpit. Therefore, a slight increase in service intervals will not critically affect the reliability of aircraft. Where there was a conditionally five-fold margin of safety, there will be a three-four-fold one. However, this is only in the first few years. If the situation with sanctions does not change, sooner or later Russia will face the notorious “Iranian scenario”, which will have to get out of its own way.

"Iranian scenario"


What will happen if the country is excommunicated from imported aircraft and spare parts for them? If we take the Soviet Union as an example, then nothing critical - the domestic aviation industry was once completely autonomous. What can not be said about the rebellious Iran, which has been flying for several decades on frank junk, buying decommissioned Western aircraft through third or fourth hands. Most of the aircraft are already 20-30 years old. The Iranians have never had their own aircraft industry, unlike the Russians, and in general it is unlikely that they will ever appear. But the Iranian authorities have learned to circumvent Western prohibitions. As the famous aphorism says:

“There is no such crime that a business would not commit for 300 percent of the profit.”

So spare parts and consumables for aircraft are flowing to Iran. They flow slowly and through many filters, but they flow. They have learned to do something on their own and are ready to share it with the Russians. Last summer, the Islamic Republic signed a memorandum on the supply of aircraft parts to Russia. In short, Tehran reveals to our country for years a well-established scheme for the supply of scarce products through shadow channels. Of course, the new Rolls-Royce aircraft engine cannot be delivered this way, but non-critical components are quite affordable. The Iranians say that they either manufacture up to 70-80 percent of the entire component base on their own or receive it through “shadow schemes”. It is possible to keep fifteen national airlines afloat at once, and in 2020 Tehran imported 22 Airbuses in a roundabout way. Some machines were immediately dismantled for parts, but most of them work in the sky.

Naturally, some of the components coming to Iran do not have certificates, and sometimes they are assembled using bypass technologies. Such products may already pose a risk to air travel. At the same time, statistics aviation accidents and disasters says that the Iranians are still coping with import substitution. In recent years, the Islamic Republic has not been on the first lines of any anti-rating of air crashes. The last time the plane crashed with casualties in 2018 was ATR 72-212, and then 65 people died. Two years later, the Iranians mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner, but, of course, this tragedy was not included in any air travel reliability rating. Russia, in 2021 alone, lost 77 people in various incidents and accidents. And it was a “covid” year, when the intensity of flights decreased markedly. In 2022, the accident rate in the industry has become less, but only due to a decrease in the number of flights. For decades, our country cannot get out of the sad trio of countries with the highest losses from air crashes. In addition to Russia, the leaders are the USA and Canada, but they also fly many times more. Just open the Flightradar24 app to see the difference. In general, when experts are very skeptical about the potential of Iranian assistance, it is necessary to look at the accident rate with which we flew before the special operation. Even if we compare the absolute numbers of the Russian and Iranian air fleets, we still have to grow and grow to Persian standards.

Paradoxically, Russia, which has its own aircraft industry, managed to fall into the Western trap even with the SSJ-100. It seems to be a Russian aircraft, but it is crammed with imported equipment to the eyeballs (up to 80%), which is not widely used in the world. One French SaM146 engine is worth something - a gas generator for it is not produced in Russia, and the import of components is prohibited. And after all, there is no one to outbid, few people in the world exploit this.


Source: connectedaviationtoday.com

Of course, it is impossible to say that the “Iranian scenario” is good. This is quite a fair price for the fact that in Russia for thirty years they have not bothered to revive their own aircraft production. In the best traditions of international management, they tried to enter foreign markets with their products. This is about the practically imported SSJ-100, which was not released from Russia without Western certified units. Iran's assistance in these conditions should be strictly temporary, otherwise the aviation industry from Western dependence will fall into Persian. Much remains to be done for this. Bring to mind a wide range of Perm engines, from the PD-8 variant to the heavy PD-35. Transfer to Russian rails the imported stuffing of the SSJ-100 and all the designed machines. And, probably, the most important thing is to expand production capacities. Even if now, to the very eyeballs, we load aircraft manufacturers with civil orders, the industry will not be able to compensate for the natural loss of aircraft in the coming decades. Do not forget that all story develops against the backdrop of the expansion of military production. The notorious "Iranian scenario" in this situation looks like a very small evil.
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  1. +25
    February 20 2023
    Here is an example of the fact that for years they have been destroying production, giving and promoting the idea that we will buy everything in the West. As a result, we can say that they were left with nothing, in this case, the aviation industry.
    Of course, not everything is as bad as Iran’s, but they still have their own, they make them, they invest in development and production. Yes, not yet as we would like, but I hope to move forward, they will begin to produce their own line of civil aviation aircraft from completely Russian components.
    And, if there are still aircraft of high quality, reliable, fuel-efficient and with excellent after-sales maintenance. Then these planes are the same Iran S. Korea, China, India, Belarus, Latin American countries will be happy to buy!
    The prospects are huge, but everything rests on the fact that a bolt was put on everything and now we can say they are starting almost from scratch. I believe and hope that in the next five years our new aircraft will start flying in our skies entirely from Russian components MC21, SSJ (change name),
    IL, TU!
    1. +36
      February 20 2023
      The prospects are huge, but everything rests on the fact that a bolt was put on everything and now I can say I’m starting almost from scratch.

      In order for this bolt not to continue to lie on top of the entire Russian aviation industry, one pedagogical event must happen - it is necessary to find ALL functionaries - from airline owners to aviation industry officials - everyone who received money in suitcases so that Russian planes did not fly in Russia, and in wartime shoot them all. And this action will have to be closely watched by people who will, from scratch, but very quickly, establish the production of Russian aircraft from maize for flights in villages outside the Moscow Ring Road to long-haul liners capable of flying around the ball. And these people should be imbued with the idea that either the planes will fly, or they will fly into the execution ditch. It won’t work any other way - the captains of our industry and their mother will sell for green papers ...
      1. +16
        February 20 2023
        Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
        And these people should be imbued with the idea that either the planes will fly, or they will fly into the execution ditch.

        Officials and oligarchs are dragging the country into the abyss and it is necessary to fight them with the methods of Stalin and Peter I. If the fight is not started today, then in a year there will be a second Ukraine.
        1. +1
          February 20 2023
          Well, as in 90 and 00, it is necessary to increase the number of trains and lengthen the trains, it will be necessary to date passenger transportation by trains at a serious level.
      2. +15
        February 20 2023
        Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
        it is necessary to find ALL functionaries - from airline owners to aviation industry officials - everyone who received money in suitcases so that Russian planes would not fly in Russia, and shoot them all in wartime.

        You showed the whip, but where is the carrot?
        And yet yes. What about the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation? At one time he was seen in a great, honest and disinterested love for Boeing. laughing hi
        1. +12
          February 20 2023
          What about the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation?

          No exceptions! We look at the experience of the great Stalin. However, you can turn to a lesser known experience:

          «If you want to defeat corruption, be prepared to send your friends and relatives to jail. And they know why, and you.."⁠⁠ Lee Kuan Yew, father of the Singaporean miracle..
          1. +8
            February 20 2023
            Quote: paul3390
            No exceptions!

            "We can't go for that!" laughing
            Quote: paul3390
            “If you want to defeat corruption, be prepared to send your friends and relatives to jail. And they know why, and you..”⁠⁠ Lee Kuan Yew, the father of the Singaporean miracle..

            "I had two paths, but one of them has already chosen Lee Kuan Yew" request laughing
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        2. +4
          February 20 2023
          You showed the whip, but where is the carrot?

          The method of stick and carrot in Russian looks like this - a big tasty Soviet gingerbread has become stale, and they are also beaten.
          1. +1
            February 20 2023
            Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
            The method of stick and carrot in Russian looks like this - a big tasty Soviet gingerbread has become stale, and they are also beaten.

            You're right. I can't object to anything. request . Exactly hi
      3. +6
        February 20 2023
        Those who make decisions frankly despise the citizens employed in production, and the fewer workers in enterprises, the less the likelihood of strikes and related threats.
      4. +6
        February 20 2023
        It remains only to catch a pike so that it copes in five years! Uncle, wake up and go at least to an electronics store and find a Made in us product there!
      5. 0
        4 May 2023
        there will be no such thing in modern Russia. looking at how "promptly" and adequately the top reacts to the horror that is happening, one more believes that they will selflessly destroy the country to the very end, including their own.
    2. +2
      February 20 2023
      i never seen such arrogant people. You import gas turbine ,car , drone, IRANIAN MADE spare part for airplane ,medicine, pharmaceutical and Iran import from you just raw material but you insult Iranian and call them backwards at the time that they are only nation that have balls to help you and stand beside you in face of west aggression and forget your old behavior towards Iranian .remember you were among this west country to sanction iran and you now taste what you participated against Iran .but Persians like a good friend came to your aid when themselves had no one to help them in the same situation
      have some respect for who help you in hard time
      1. +1
        April 16 2023
        It's very reasonable words. That happens because there are some old farts who still believe they are living in USSR. Still believe they are living in the greatest country that created tsar-bomba and other amazing things. But they always forget sometimes USSR couldn't even feed its people. And that is why USSR gone now
    3. +2
      February 21 2023
      And, if there are still aircraft of high quality, reliable, fuel-efficient and with excellent after-sales maintenance. Then these planes are the same Iran S. Korea, China, India, Belarus, Latin American countries happy to buy!


      For China, India, Latin America, it will be necessary to compete with Boeing, Airbus and Embaer (by the way, a Brazilian airline), and without international cooperation it is difficult to compete with them.
    4. 0
      April 14 2023
      Did you buy many SSJs? Because, in addition to the quality and characteristics of the equipment itself, the quality of after-sales service is important for the buyer
  2. +6
    February 20 2023
    Due to Western sanctions, difficulties with access to repair documentation, repair equipment and with the implementation of airworthiness directives have not yet been resolved.

    I still don’t understand this stupidity of the cosmic scale of the responsible persons who made the decision to purchase foreign-made aircraft without ironclad guarantees for their maintenance.
    They don’t give guarantees, so buy a license for production and make planes on your territory ... they drove themselves into a swamp, and now the brains of simple-minded citizens are hovering about import substitution and other goodies ... time has been mediocrely lost.
    Again, as always, we are starting from scratch to restore the destroyed civil aviation industry of Russia ... oh mother Russia ... what kind of attack fell on your head.
    1. +10
      February 20 2023
      So - "... oh mother Russia ... what kind of attack fell on your head ..." - one with a birthmark, the second with a white bubble, and then a legion ran over them. They dismantled, robbed, since the time has come for them to line up in the cemetery for coffins without pockets. The bright memory of these misfortunes does not even "shine".
      --
      The Russian aviation industry will certainly come out of the twilight and darkness as soon as the domestic Central Bank is pressed into a causal place, but as soon as cheap loans appear, related to the aviation industry will also rise. An airplane is not only an engine and a glider, it is also many, many different components. Now the development of all science-intensive industries is being artificially slowed down, and what is being done is being done rather contrary to and contrary to it. Financing is not enough in all areas except speculative, financial.
      1. +5
        February 20 2023
        as soon as the domestic Central Bank is pressed into a causal place,
        Naya ..lina, the head of the Central Bank, does not have this place, so there is nothing to reap.
        1. +2
          February 20 2023
          Sometimes it seems to me that she is not the head of the Central Bank, but the head of the Russian Federation, and her sidekicks Antosha and Denis are her prime ministers ...
          1. +6
            February 20 2023
            This is absolutely true. I wrote here a few years ago about this, about the fact that an economy called "kudrinomics" has been built in the country and its main postulate is the primacy of banks and bank credit. That is, the economy cannot be financed in any way, except through bank loans, and the state should only support banks and in no other way should financially support enterprises, companies, firms, etc., except as "state companies" and in special cases.
            1. 0
              February 20 2023
              I think you are right, a few years ago, to the question "why is everything like this with the economy?" - the standard answer was “they don’t change horses at the crossing, even if it’s 1% per year, but we’re growing, but it’s not known who to put in - maybe everything will fall apart again like in the 90s,” after March 2022. it is clear that there are untouchable supervisors (from the IMF ???), and the rest is just a wrapper and tinsel around the gas / gas station project.
      2. +1
        February 20 2023
        Well, here again Genghis Khan is to blame for you! What have you been doing for the last 30 years! I was glad that Crimea is yours!
  3. +5
    February 20 2023
    And it was not a thing to do the SSJ-100. They would build the Su-100, and there would be fewer problems now. If you know what I mean.
    1. +4
      February 20 2023
      Of course we understand - you are talking about that unbearably pleasant rustle of greenery, for which our officials blindly follow like rats for a rat-catcher from Hameln. True, they forget about the further fate of the rats ...
      1. -1
        February 20 2023
        Leader_Barmaleev (Sergey) -->
        No, rather it's about T-4 (it's also a weave) ;-)
    2. -1
      February 20 2023
      ermak124.0 (Vasily) -->>
      "They would have built the Su-100, and there would have been fewer problems now." - definitely. But they sang to Leonid Ilyich that it was very expensive, without thinking about how much technology this product would drag along with it (including computer technology).
      1. 0
        April 14 2023
        the Americans B-70 valkyrie were also not allowed into the series. Apparently, there were also reasons
    3. 0
      February 20 2023
      I understand what you mean! Put a boot on the chest of all mankind - but mankind has figured out your plan and now you are a barbarian plow plow
  4. +14
    February 20 2023
    Aircraft in the USSR were equipped exclusively with their own components, to the very last screw! Thanks for the reforms to Alkash and his collective Rasputin ...
    1. +4
      February 20 2023
      Quote: Luminman
      Thanks for the reforms to Alkash and his collective Rasputin ...

      Was it different after that? laughing
  5. +4
    February 20 2023
    Rostransnadzor supported the idea of ​​carriers to extend the terms of maintenance of imported aircraft. This happened not because of the growth in the quality of Western aircraft and high reliability, but because of the banal lack of consumables and spare parts

    There is no doubt that Rostransnadzor, or rather the officials working there, will extend any service life for good money! And the passengers? Yes, they are still being born! The main thing is your pocket!
  6. +1
    February 20 2023
    What kind of PD-32?! Never heard of it. Maybe PD-35?
  7. +11
    February 20 2023
    It is strange how this vertical of power can govern the country for more than 20 years and not solve fundamental problems. There are problems in every area. All the money all this time was spent on a "beautiful" picture about our government, and each reportage was aimed at showing what kind of "effective" managers we have. Now they continue, with zealous stubbornness, to pretend that everything is fine and there is no need to clean up the personnel.
  8. +5
    February 20 2023
    SSJ-100. It seems to be a Russian aircraft, but it is crammed with imported equipment to the eyeballs (up to 80%), which is not widely used in the world. One French SaM146 engine is worth what
    Say thanks to the current rector of the MAI Poghosyan, who managed to lobby his "Superbudget" instead of the Tu-334. Notable master of sawing funds. Why isn't he sawing the wood yet?
    1. +5
      February 20 2023
      Tu-334


      He flew beautifully on Ukrainian D436 engines, with partially Ukrainian (or rather Western in the Hartron wrapper) avionics wink . And they planned to assemble hull kits for Kazan (final assembly plant) in Kyiv.
    2. 0
      February 20 2023
      Take it higher! You don't want to make the guy guilty! He did not "work" for the enemy king!
    3. +1
      February 21 2023
      The Tu-334 had a lot of problems with three crew members, Ukrainian engines and don't forget that all this was already in the conditions of capitalism, the market, who would order large batches of Tu-334 with those specifications? Plus, until 2014, relations with the West were quite working, serious cooperation.
  9. -5
    February 20 2023
    Strange as it may seem, it was we who saved the aviation industry. And for the military, and for civilian aircraft, and for helicopters, and for aircraft engines. But Georgia, Uzbekistan and the 404th aviation industry, inherited from the USSR, blew up. Well, except that the 404s still have Motor Sich, but they squander it too. We reformatted the Smolensk plant, closed the Saratov. All the rest are alive and producing products. The policy of the authorities, which did not help the aviation industry, led to the dominance of Boeings and Airbuses. The Tu-334 would fly perfectly instead of the import-dependent SSJ, brought to the Tu-204 series, it would definitely not let the B-757 and A-321 here, the Il-114 would not give the ATR a chance.
    Now they realized it, in fire order, when the partners took off their sheep masks. But there is time and opportunity to replace partners, the aviation industry is alive, so let's wish our design bureaus and factories success.
    1. +11
      February 20 2023
      If they had preserved their aviation industry, they would now be flying their own, and not Western aircraft. Example: our cosmonautics lives at the very least, but they don’t even aim at super-heavy rockets. And what could be simpler: take it and restore the production of Energia. The academicians got together, discussed it, and came up with a decision: restoring the production of Energia is not expedient: it is cheaper to do it all over again. But again, too, it did not work out very well and decided not to do it at all.
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      2. 0
        February 21 2023
        And what could be simpler: take it and restore the production of Energia.


        And why does Energia need it now, what market will it have?
  10. +3
    February 20 2023
    Last summer, the Islamic Republic signed a memorandum on the supply of aircraft parts to Russia.
    To do this, it was necessary to ditch our own aviation industry. About which you can say: "the patient is more dead than alive."
  11. +3
    February 20 2023
    .in aviation, "checks" (Check).

    This is not in aviation, but simply in English.
    And on the topic ..... knowing what happened in the country in the 90s, it is a miracle that the aviation industry has survived at all, thanks to the heads of enterprises, who turned out to be true patriots and professionals. It would be easier to saw the plant and divide it among the management, providing for themselves for life. And all this happened because we "dived" into capitalism, and there are completely different laws and we were simply "gobbled up" by Western, seasoned capitalists, who feel like fish in water in this environment. Today, everyone understands that there is no fair market (which will regulate everything), but there is a cruel and unfair struggle against bribery, blackmail and everything else inherent in the Western way of life.
  12. +5
    February 20 2023
    It's okay, soon the bulk of the population will not need to fly at all (there is nothing and nowhere), Russian Railways will become a transport for the rich, and ordinary expensive Russians will ride ancient Chinese buses to work on a rotational basis ...
  13. -1
    February 20 2023
    There is a plus in the chosen path for the development of the industry - we are now producing aircraft that meet international standards of efficiency. This is what ensures the use of foreign components and systems: the whole machine becomes competitive. Now is the time to take the second step and bring domestic components up to the level of existing developments.
  14. +6
    February 20 2023
    Another good wishes .... and in a circle.

    In real life, each "new reality" has a full name.
    And as long as they are untouchable, the result will be "as always." And they have new suites in Dubai...
    1. +2
      February 20 2023
      By the way, yes, they swung at the construction of an island for the rich in the form of a palm tree, and the project began to fade due to lack of investment and suddenly began to receive unprecedented investments and all the apartments with berths for yachts were sold out there. That's interesting who? wink
  15. +2
    February 20 2023
    What will happen if the country is excommunicated from imported aircraft and spare parts for them? If we take the Soviet Union as an example, then nothing critical - the domestic aviation industry was once completely autonomous.

    And if we take the Iranian scenario? In 2007, in terms of civil aviation, Iran was "imposed concretely." To date, out of 300 aircraft that were available at the beginning of the "sanctions terror", 150 are flying. The rest cannot. That is, in roughly 15 years, half of the park has been lost. Further, the forecast is another minus eight percent of the remaining amount each year.
    But this is domestic transportation. And international ones can "fall" much faster and Russian tourists will either fly on Turkish planes or swim to "friend Erdogan". As once - "from the Varangians to the Greeks."
    1. -1
      April 10 2023
      Quote: Ruyter-57
      And international ones can "fall" much faster and Russian tourists will either fly on Turkish planes or swim to "friend Erdogan".

      This is how Putin will behave with Erdogan. I think it is more profitable for Putin if the Russians instead of Turkey will fly or travel to Dagestan and the Azov region. Therefore, in the event of pressure from Erdogan, Putin can act symmetrically by banning flights to this country on non-Russian-made aircraft.
  16. -4
    February 20 2023
    So Russia, through the efforts of Medvedev and K, is the most globalized country. In the Military Review, it is here that there is (was) an archive. Go back to the year so 2010. Read it. Well, that's okay. While nefig dismantling repair. Gotta get out. The eagle is two-headed to us. We can.
  17. -4
    February 20 2023
    This is what rotten capitalism and the treacherous leadership have brought the country to.
    Russia's capitalism is not suitable.
    Urgently translate the arrows on the only true path!
    1. +1
      February 20 2023
      No. You just need to separate, medium and small businesses and private services, and industries that are strategic for the country's survival are under full control. And if a private trader develops something with his mind to strategically important volumes, then a conversation with him will be different (Amer's experience in this matter is useful), but our strategic industries were initially given to people who, according to their minds, can support stalls in the village at a loss, hence the distorted economy.
      1. 0
        April 10 2023
        Quote: evgen1221
        strategic for the country's survival of the industry under full control.

        Aeroflot and the aviation industry are under state control. Russia can repair planes only because the FSB understands that the next day after the production of counterfeit aircraft is covered up, civil aviation will land dead.
  18. Eug
    +1
    February 20 2023
    I’m interested in something else - when they listed the advantages of Western aircraft, they constantly talked about maintenance according to technical condition, which has a lot of advantages over maintenance according to the regulations adopted in the USSR. And reading this article - and on you, it turns out that there is a "check" and that are no different from the regulations ..
    1. 0
      February 20 2023
      Nothing surprising, just a tactic of destroying a competitor and binding him to his standards, suppliers. The point is, who needs to pay and frighten with skeletons in the closet and taking money.
  19. 0
    February 20 2023
    The Air Force Commander also announced plans to re-equip front and army aviation. The state plan of armaments, according to Zelin, is practically drawn up, will be put into practice.
    “For 10 years we will rearm front and army aviation by 100%, military transport aviation by approximately 70%. We will modernize with strategic aviation with the hope that we will build a promising long-range aviation complex, ”the commander-in-chief said.
    Zelin confirmed that Russia is developing orbital planes capable of operating in outer space. According to him, such developments are underway now everywhere. “We carry and we. We can not be in the train. There are developments, there is an understanding of how to do this, there are technical solutions, ”the general noted.

    VO 2010. wonderful
  20. +1
    February 20 2023
    While Deputy Prime Minister Manturov, who destroyed the USSR aviation industry together with Khristenko (Golikova's husband), is in charge of the pr-ve, the prospects for the Russian aviation industry are the most vague. About a month ago, Putin gave this figure exactly 1 month to conclude contracts with aircraft factories. The month has passed. And what ? Nothing, he continues his sabotage to the best of his ability.
  21. -2
    February 20 2023
    the author is not aware that at the beginning of the "zero" Iran, together with Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers from Kharkov and Kiev, began to mass-produce the still successful An-140 in the modification of the IrAn-140, which were built more than in Ukraine and in Russia, in Kuibyshev, together taken. It was a good plane...
    Due to the idiocy of the independents, the project turned sour ...
    As in Samara on "Aviakor"
  22. +2
    February 20 2023
    A crashed plane can ruin the reputation of an airline only in a capital society with developed advocacy and courts. It’s impossible for us, they wrote out a million and go for a walk, and in order to file a lawsuit for a large amount, he will go to court with the hopes of winning and getting it, you need almost more money than the budget of this airline. And for smaller lawsuits, they don’t stand on ceremony with the population, and even a big one can bury it.
    1. +1
      February 21 2023
      "Justice is Sold". From the book "12 chairs". But seriously, do you believe in this justice? When do those who disagree with the zombie get 12 years? I am begging you.
  23. -2
    February 20 2023
    i never seen such arrogant people. You import gas turbine ,car , drone, IRANIAN MADE spare part for airplane ,medicine, pharmaceutical and Iran import from you just raw material but you insult Iranian and call them backwards at the time that they are only nation that have balls to help you and stand beside you in face of west aggression and forget your old behavior towards Iranian .remember you were among this west country to sanction iran and you now taste what you participated against Iran .but Persians like a good friend came to your aid when themselves had no one to help them in the same situation
    have some respect for who help you in hard time
  24. 0
    February 20 2023
    Of course, it is impossible to say that the "Iranian scenario" is good.
    Yes, it's more of a choice of the lesser of two evils...
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  26. +1
    February 21 2023
    The author, do you really believe that you fell asleep like this, woke up, and 80% in the SSJ suddenly became Russian? Yes, there you need to design almost a new aircraft from scratch. Almost everything except the seats and the toilet. Poghosyan did not just quickly get out of Su when he realized what he had muddied
  27. -1
    February 21 2023
    Quote: Persia
    i never seen such arrogant people. You import gas turbine ,car , drone, IRANIAN MADE spare part for airplane ,medicine, pharmaceutical and Iran import from you just raw material but you insult Iranian and call them backwards at the time that they are only nation that have balls to help you and stand beside you in face of west aggression and forget your old behavior towards Iranian .remember you were among this west country to sanction iran and you now taste what you participated against Iran .but Persians like a good friend came to your aid when themselves had no one to help them in the same situation
    have some respect for who help you in hard time

    Dear friend,
    It must be misunderstanding that you find us arrogant and say we insult Iranian people. Will you kindly point to the phrase or sentence, which indicates our arrogance?I failed to find any when reading the Russian text.
    The article deals with our internal aviation industry and its prospects for the future.
    We discuss our technological sovereignty here and weigh pros and contras of cooperating with Iran. We are grateful for your help and indeed feel the affection of the common Iranian people. But states are not humans and deal with each other under different rules, providing their long-term interests and thus make steps that can't necessarily be understood here and now by ordinary citizens. For instance in 2015 or 2016 Russia and Iran came to agreement to use Iranian jump air fields for Russian military aviation (for military operation in Syria) and some (short) time later Iran all of a sudden withdrew its consent. That decision made certain inconveniances for us, but since we have deep respect for Iran we immediately followed its guidance.Such things happen, the whole strategy remained unchanged.
    You were quite correct that we sanctioned againced Iran, but the states are not human beings, and are influenced by other stronger states. The majority can't afford having independent foreign affairs and that was the case with Russia up to 2014. Even today Russia's Central Bank is under the direct control of International Monetary Fund. But we are working at it. You see, Iran and Russia are too different countries to be compared on one board, each having its unigue history, religion, statehood and circumstances that shape their internal and foreign policy.
    The main reason which attracts Iran and Russia like magnet and iron lies not only within our nations' good feelings, but is that we are constructing nowadays common monetary area and common market, the dollar monatery area all the world over collapsed. Such monetary areas are being formed everywhere and need approximately 500 mln of people for each one to function properly and thus unite states into economic clusters. Therefore Iran and Russia will have other allies to build our new future peaceful and prosperous (world whithout UK\US)
  28. exo
    +1
    February 21 2023
    1. When the SSJ-100 or RRJ-95 was being designed, no one could have foreseen the current situation. It is equipped with quite worthy components from leading manufacturers, adapted to a specific type of V.S. Engines on Sukhoi are by no means the most painful place. Contrary to rumors. The plane was being made for sale in foreign markets. And this explains a lot. Nobody thought that they would have to carry parts according to gray schemes. Therefore, the liner was not any "trap".
    2. Aircraft of the end of the USSR, including the Tu-204 and Il-96, are not competitive. And the Tu-334, given its unification with the Tu-204, too. It is tantamount to using a UAZ in a city in a taxi. It is possible, but not profitable. Well, this is, of course, if you do not take the situation of isolation. Any aircraft is good here. The state subsidizes the costs. If a miracle happens and the sanctions are lifted, the first thing the airlines will do is to abandon domestic aircraft. There is an example of Red Wings.
    3.Daily check is done every 48 hours. A Weekly check, once every 8 days or 75 flight hours. Let the author not be misled by the name of the checks.
    4. "To revive production" - beautiful words. Our engines have always been a very weak point. So is avionics. Then it is necessary to abandon capitalism, where airlines make money.
    Maybe MS-21 will change the situation. As well as a series of PD engines. Life will show.
    1. 0
      February 21 2023
      With regards to the non-competitiveness of the Tu-204 and Il-96, in comparison with the Superjet, one can argue here. Both Tu and Il were and are being produced at our factories, the parts for them were produced by our own subcontractor factories, one way or another, tens of thousands of people received salaries, paid taxes, not to mention companies. But most of the cost of the "Superjet" was produced abroad, with us, the fuselage and assembly. A slightly lower efficiency of engines (and this is only a few%) does not mean anything, fuel is far from everything in the operation of an aircraft: you need to pay for leasing, for maintenance, but it is very expensive and you had to pay for all this in foreign currency, for airfield services , weather services, dispatch services, you need to pay taxes, pay the crew, pay management, pay dividends, etc., etc., etc. And with regards to comparing our aircraft with the UAZ, let me remind you: the Boeing 747 was produced by the Americans until very recently, and because it is much older than both Tu-204 and Il-96. And the fact that capitalist management methods have shown their inefficiency in our aircraft industry, so here I completely agree with the author (and not only about the aircraft industry). - Let me remind you: in the same France, under de Gaulle, they relied on the state industry and therefore France still produces any weapons: from tanks to aircraft, from nuclear submarines to aircraft carriers.
      1. 0
        April 14 2023
        So the 737th is still being produced. But what is left of the 737 half a century ago in it?
  29. -1
    February 21 2023
    In 1991, a coup d'etat took place in the USSR, capitalists seized power. Ask yourself why did the capitalists seize power? For 32 years, the capitalists have been robbing Russia, all the loot is sent to the countries of the NATO bloc. The reality is that there is no industry in the Russian Federation, aviation and the automotive industry have collapsed, etc. For example, the production of bearings since 1990 has fallen 21 times. In the Russian Federation there are real IL-96 and Tu-214, which do not depend on the West. These IL-96 and Tu-214 can provide all air passenger transportation. Produce two IL-96s and four Tu-214s a month, and in a year you will close the problem of aircraft shortages. Forget a word about the profitability of these aircraft, about kerosene, how much they consume. After all, you have a state program to provide Russian aircraft. The trouble is that the capitalists do not need it.
  30. +1
    February 21 2023
    If you have already undertaken to quote grandfather Marx, then do it for sure.
  31. 0
    February 21 2023
    It is significant that the accident rate of the same Iranians, with their components for aircraft, which are received who knows where, much lower than in Russia, where components were, until recently, in a stream. And the reason is simple, the West is often engaged not only in deliveries, but, in reality, in sabotage. That is why planes crashed en masse before the presidential elections and the referendum, and more recently, there were frequent failures during the launch of space technology. Moral: you don't need to rely on "checks", you need to produce your own: your own components, your own equipment, albeit simpler to begin with (as in Iran), but your own. So it's much more reliable. The passenger, in fact, does not care: the fuel tanks of "what system" are on the plane, it is important that the plane safely reaches its destination.
  32. 0
    February 23 2023
    Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
    The prospects are huge, but everything rests on the fact that a bolt was put on everything and now I can say I’m starting almost from scratch.

    In order for this bolt not to continue to lie on top of the entire Russian aviation industry, one pedagogical event must happen - it is necessary to find ALL functionaries - from airline owners to aviation industry officials - everyone who received money in suitcases so that Russian planes did not fly in Russia, and in wartime shoot them all. And this action will have to be closely watched by people who will, from scratch, but very quickly, establish the production of Russian aircraft from maize for flights in villages outside the Moscow Ring Road to long-haul liners capable of flying around the ball. And these people should be imbued with the idea that either the planes will fly, or they will fly into the execution ditch. It won’t work any other way - the captains of our industry and their mother will sell for green papers ...

    He was promoted, and you say "..... into the ditch" am
  33. 0
    February 23 2023
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Due to Western sanctions, difficulties with access to repair documentation, repair equipment and with the implementation of airworthiness directives have not yet been resolved.

    I still don’t understand this stupidity of the cosmic scale of the responsible persons who made the decision to purchase foreign-made aircraft without ironclad guarantees for their maintenance.
    They don’t give guarantees, so buy a license for production and make planes on your territory ... they drove themselves into a swamp, and now the brains of simple-minded citizens are hovering about import substitution and other goodies ... time has been mediocrely lost.
    Again, as always, we are starting from scratch to restore the destroyed civil aviation industry of Russia ... oh mother Russia ... what kind of attack fell on your head.

    Each "misfortune" has its own name and we know them.
  34. 0
    February 28 2023
    Rzhunimagu! Will those who brought the industry to such a state now heroically and selflessly correct everything? Like galley slaves? Seriously? I remember how they said about Gaidar and Chubais that they "took responsibility", "brainy men". That's what Chubais now bears a heavy responsibility in Israel, the poor fellow!
    1. -1
      April 7 2023
      Capitalists are accustomed to deliberately complicate and make any technique incompatible and not unified, even in small things, for example, so that standard keys do not fit, they specially invent cunning bolt heads like many other things. In Western aviation, there are a lot of such trifles, not to mention the cunning programming of automation and avionics, all this specially sophisticated equipment cannot be operated normally without the participation of the manufacturer, so you need to remove imported avionics from aircraft along with wiring, otherwise it is simply dangerous to fly on such equipment there full of bookmarks. Partial, and somewhere even a complete rejection of automation in their aircraft (with the transition to manual control) will only benefit. at least for the initial period.
      1. 0
        April 14 2023
        Do current pilots know how to fly on their hands?
  35. 0
    April 16 2023
    Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
    all those who received money in suitcases so that Russian planes would not fly in Russia, and in wartime shoot them all

    Again 25. These are literally the same reasons that led to the mediocre performance of Soviet aircraft - take what they give or be shot. More precisely, there were no executions because of their uselessness - there was nowhere to take other planes anyway. So the factories didn’t give a damn about modernization for the sake of 15-20% fuel savings, they already have production. And whoever says that in the west the motor resource is greater, and the fuel consumption is less, he is a traitor and a cosmopolitan.
    As a result, when it became possible to choose, the choice was made, you see in whose favor. And here, in general, there was no need for suitcases of money - just a piece of paper with calculations.
    And here you are again suggesting the same thing. Obviously, when choosing between execution and a flying plane, the designers will still choose the latter. But what characteristics will this aircraft have? Well, at least one step ahead, you need to think before offering executions. But here they regularly approve proposals to "take and share everything", from more complex structures "the head swells"
  36. -1
    11 May 2023
    in Russia for thirty years they did not bother to revive their own aircraft production

    The task of the West was set not to revive, but rather to destroy the aircraft industry and other industries ...
    Our authorities have been fulfilling this task for 30 years...

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