Testing ground: new samples of foreign equipment for Ukraine

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Testing ground: new samples of foreign equipment for Ukraine
American BMP M2 Bradley. Photo by the US Department of Defense


Foreign partners and patrons of the Kyiv regime have long used Ukraine as a free testing ground for testing their weapons and military equipment in a real conflict. In the near future, new samples of various types are going to be sent to this test site, which will also have to be tested in practice. What results foreign armies hope for is unknown. But the results of such tests can be very different from expectations.



New armored vehicles


In recent weeks, several foreign countries have revealed their new plans to send weapons to Ukraine. This time, several states at once expressed their readiness to provide not only infantry weapons or artillery, but also armored combat vehicles and anti-aircraft missile systems. Delivery of all this property is expected within the next weeks or months.

The most attention in early January was attracted by information from the United States. The Pentagon expressed its readiness to transfer to the Kyiv regime 50 M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, one of the main modifications. It is also planned to supply 18 M109A6 Paladin self-propelled howitzers and M992A2 ammunition transporters for them. Infantry fighting vehicles and self-propelled guns of these types will be sent to Ukraine for the first time.


British Army Challenger 2 MBT. Photo by the British Ministry of Defense

The UK is also preparing to supply armored vehicles not previously included in aid packages. The other day, its Ministry of Defense announced its readiness to provide 14 basic tanks Challenger 2 and 8 AS-90 self-propelled guns. It is curious that the possibility of transferring British self-propelled guns was discussed earlier, but the decision was made only now.

The other day, Poland expressed its readiness to send 14 German-made Leopard 2 MBTs to Ukraine. At the same time, she does not want to supply tanks on her own. It is proposed to create some kind of international coalition, which, through joint efforts, will recruit a sufficient number of Leopards-2 and transfer them to the Kyiv regime. Several other countries agree in principle to participate in this. However, the position of Germany remains unknown - without its approval, the re-export of tanks is impossible.

Probably, the situation with Leopard 2 will become clear in the very near future, following the meeting of the NATO Contact Group. On January 20, representatives of the Alliance countries will again gather in Germany at the Ramstein base and, perhaps, find a common language in the matter of supplying tanks.


The Leopard 2PL tank is a Polish version of the German vehicle. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

Air Defense


In the latest assistance packages, air defense assets are attracting attention. Kyiv for a long time begged modern anti-aircraft systems from foreign partners, but for a long time received only promises and mostly outdated equipment. Only now are the deliveries of the desired samples planned.

So, only at the end of December, despite all the requests, the Pentagon announced its intention to transfer one Patriot air defense system battery to Ukraine. The modification of this complex, the configuration and number of various technical means, as well as other features of such a delivery have not yet been reported. The timing also remains unknown. At the same time, it should be noted that almost a month has passed since the announcement of such assistance, and during this time there has been no visible progress.

In early January, the US also promised to provide RIM-7 Sea Sparrow anti-aircraft missiles, which were developed in the past for surface ships. To use such ammunition, it is planned to rebuild a number of land-based Buk air defense systems that Ukraine has. How soon this will happen, and when the updated complexes will begin service, is unknown. The number of missiles planned for transfer is also not disclosed.

Replenishment and strengthening


The latest aid packages for Ukraine have several common goals. By joint efforts, foreign states are trying to maintain the overall combat capability of Ukrainian formations, for which various types of ammunition, infantry weapons, vehicles, etc. are being transferred.


ACS AS-90. Photo by the British Ministry of Defense

Against this background, anti-aircraft weapons are being supplied with the aim of building a modern layered air defense system. With the help of modernized "Buks", "Patriots" and other products, it is planned to cover strategically important objects and protect them from Russian strikes. Transfer of new types of armored vehicles, incl. MBT and BMP, speaks of the desire of foreign allies to restore the fleet of Ukrainian military vehicles. It cannot be ruled out that they even want to provide Kyiv with some offensive capabilities.

In addition, an important implication is clearly visible in the announced deliveries of modern systems and samples. The US and NATO see assistance to Ukraine as an opportunity to test their products in a real conflict against a technically advanced adversary. In recent decades, they have not had such an opportunity, and now in Ukraine they are catching up.

Even in small quantities, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, air defense systems and other samples will make it possible to test the existing theoretical constructions and collect new data on operation and combat use. At the same time, foreign states minimize the risks - Ukrainian personnel will face all the characteristic dangers, which they are not going to take care of.


Funds from the American Patriot air defense system. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

Obvious results


Thus, a number of foreign developments in the coming weeks or months will get to Ukraine and go to a kind of test. Given the events of the past months, it is not difficult to imagine what will happen next. It should be expected that newly arriving foreign equipment will ensure the collection of the necessary data, but will do this "at the cost of their own lives."

Despite all the declared determination, foreign countries are ready to supply only limited quantities of modern equipment. Due to this, Ukrainian formations will be able to rearm only individual units, and this will not allow changing the situation at the front. In addition, foreign armored vehicles will arouse increased interest - and will become a real object of hunting. Even the most modern MBT and infantry fighting vehicles will not be able to work effectively in such conditions.

A similar scenario should be expected in the case of new foreign air defense systems. They pose a potential danger to our front-line and army aviation, and can also interfere with missile attacks on military infrastructure. In this regard, air defense systems will become a priority target for the next demilitarizing strikes. They will face the same fate as other anti-aircraft weapons that Ukraine had a year ago.


Anti-aircraft missiles RIM-7. Photo by the US Department of Defense

It should be noted that the "tests" of foreign technology are of great interest to our army and defense industry. For the first time, Russian troops will encounter Challengers or Leopards - and will be able to evaluate such equipment, as well as find the best means and ways to destroy it. In addition, such a technique can become a trophy, extremely useful in terms of study and further conclusions.

Help continues


Foreign patrons and allies actively supplied weapons and equipment to the Kyiv regime. At the same time, in recent months they have actually spent the entire available stock of Soviet-style materiel suitable for operation. Nevertheless, they are not going to refuse support and intend to continue the supply of weapons and equipment - and now they have to take modern equipment from their own formations and units.

It is assumed that new assistance in the form of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, etc. NATO model will support the Ukrainian formations and help them resist longer. In addition, foreign partners get a chance to test their models in a real conflict. Whether this justifies all the losses and the reduction of our own fleet is a rhetorical question.
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  1. -1
    18 January 2023 04: 51
    The BUK air defense system was created not so much to cover stationary objects, but to cover the actions of tank and motorized rifle units. So, I think these "modernized" ones will also be used for this purpose. And if so, then they will go to equip those parts that will prepare for the strike.
    1. -4
      18 January 2023 06: 22
      It’s new (the equipment) is new, but who is sitting behind the levers, is it really a “trained” APU officer? When did you have time? (with humor).
      In my opinion, the geography of delivery of the "XNUMXth" will expand ...
      1. +4
        18 January 2023 10: 42
        Accelerated courses have not been canceled. True, if the West wanted to, now the first professional tankers, pilots, air defense system operators and so on would have left the US academies. We gave them plenty of time.
  2. +1
    18 January 2023 05: 07
    In fact, they are afraid to deliver the newest developments, reasonably assuming that we will either capture them or get them in other ways.
    1. +1
      18 January 2023 19: 30
      Quote: IlgizL
      get it in other ways

      a post on UVZ telegram without a photo?
      Yes, they are horrified.
  3. +2
    18 January 2023 05: 09
    It seems that the British have not yet declassified their "chobham" to anyone, it would be interesting to explore ...
    1. +6
      18 January 2023 06: 02
      "Chobhem" has taken root the designation of combined armor, there is nothing secret anymore. Each developer, although there are not many of them, has his own version of "chobhem".
  4. +2
    18 January 2023 05: 52
    And what will happen if the saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with NATO equipment reaches a critical level for our army ... what We must now consider all the negative options for events.
    Kissinger, by the way, has already spoken in plain text about the need to admit Ukraine to NATO... finally cast aside his hypocrisy.
    So now we can talk directly about a direct clash between NATO and Russia ... there is very little time left before the entry of Polish parts of NATO into Ukraine.
    1. 0
      20 March 2023 00: 03
      Time left? whoever introduces them will automatically escalate the conflict into a regional one, and there will be a nuclear war. They said 100500 times there that they don’t want the conflict to flare up to another level, and few people care about what the hell they were talking about in retirement.
  5. +2
    18 January 2023 07: 47
    No one will ever test his weapon in conditions of clear superiority of the enemy, the threat of destruction and capture.
    1. +4
      18 January 2023 12: 59
      There are far from fools sitting there, and all risks are calculated, even if something is destroyed, contracts with the production of a new one in the amount of x2 come in its place. Of course, I understand that the strikes are "demilitarizing", but we have not yet given such a bold reason to increase the production of all types of weapons as we have now ...
      1. 0
        20 March 2023 00: 06
        There it is very doubtful that in the same Europe something will be able to increase, the resources there have shown a bottom, and the printing of funds automatically is reflected in galloping inflation. Europe really doesn’t export economically, it doesn’t have cheap energy, most likely the states don’t either.
  6. +2
    18 January 2023 08: 15
    Testing ground: new samples of foreign equipment for Ukraine
    . It is clear that a conflict of such intensity allows you to check everything and everyone!!!
    If with military equipment, such as new, everything is not so obvious, you won’t find truly Western models, new, advanced ones there during the day with fire, then they test intelligence, control and management technologies, tactics and other things like that to the fullest and quite successfully must admit!!!
    From our side ... yes, there is nothing to say, for now, for now and then, a lot of incomprehensible, and even strange.
    The NWO itself is some strange, ambiguous process that does not transform anywhere and in any way ....
    1. 0
      20 March 2023 00: 17
      No, standard war. Amateurs play tactics, professionals consider logistics.
  7. -6
    18 January 2023 09: 23
    What new weapon? What's wrong? Even the junk that enters there disappears as if into a black hole .... the natives immediately pull these weapons in all directions and the crumbs go to the front ... and here you have to be crazy to naively give these monkeys your new weapon and even for testing ... ..even if not personally in the hands of the ukram ..but with their crews, then the risk of a big capture and trophy.
    1. +8
      18 January 2023 14: 51
      If Western supplies went somewhere to the left, now the situation at the front would be much better in our direction.
  8. -2
    18 January 2023 10: 22
    The West has made Ukraine a testing ground, and Ukrainians have been dummies who take part in these tests.
    1. +7
      18 January 2023 10: 45
      But there is a nuance. The mannequin on the right is us. In any other situation, one could laugh at the short-sighted Ukrainians, but we ourselves are playing according to someone else's scenario.
      1. -6
        19 January 2023 07: 59
        Don't write nonsense. What kind of habit do some people in any topic have to throw poop on their heads? Why are we here? According to the logic of analogy, the Americans provide a car (weapons), put Ukrainians in it (a dummy) and send them to meet with a crash barrier (the Russian army). Here is the sane logic.
  9. +5
    18 January 2023 10: 48
    The Anglo-Saxon military-industrial complex will receive orders for new equipment, taking into account combat use, the US army and its allies will acquire modernized weapons, all this pleasure will be paid for by the taxpayers of Western countries. And Russian blood, who counts it.
  10. +3
    18 January 2023 13: 26
    Owl on a globe
    The reality is far from what is written.

    The media endlessly assured everyone that they were supplying all sorts of junk. Written off or near written off.
    what are the tests?
    Analysis of different tactics and applications rather. It's still not bearded or swarthy to drive. But it has always been that way, which is surprising.

    And various relative novelties - so far they are only thinking of delivering. What are they "experiencing" here.
    Naturally, all sides draw conclusions from the course of the battles ...
  11. +2
    18 January 2023 14: 53
    Who would have thought that the territory of a once great and mighty power could turn into a testing ground for armaments of European countries. And the local people, with crap and brains, from all sides, would be expendable material in these experiments. Who is responsible for this ??! !
    1. 0
      18 January 2023 22: 26
      This could have been thought about before starting the NWO.
      But for this it was necessary to be able to think a few steps ahead.
      Like in chess.
      And not one step forward, as in a duel, like Pushkin-Dantes.
      1. -1
        April 9 2023 11: 21
        Quote: voyaka uh
        This could have been thought about before starting the NWO.
        But for this it was necessary to be able to think a few steps ahead.
        Like in chess.
        And not one step forward, as in a duel, like Pushkin-Dantes.


        This is clearly a stone in the garden of the great geostrategist and multi-way genius.

        But in fact, the king turned out to be completely naked. And all his "brilliant" talents attributed to court sycophants are a pumpkin.
  12. +1
    18 January 2023 23: 43
    Why pity the Ukrainians? - they defend their territory, and each product delivered is the life of our soldiers
  13. 0
    23 January 2023 09: 01
    Quote: Ghost1
    If Western supplies went somewhere to the left, now the situation at the front would be much better in our direction.


    Well, only part of it goes to the left. And the volume of deliveries is already such that it would be possible to equip a rather large army. And let's not forget how many former Soviet weapons Nezalezhnaya had before the start of the conflict.
    But everyone asks and asks, everything is small and small ... obviously the personal interest of the local elite.
  14. 0
    26 January 2023 04: 38
    - As for the methods of destroying incoming equipment:

    On the Challenger video shown, one could see decent-sized blinds on top of the stern ... - try dropping a liter incendiary jar (plastic bags) there from small copters, with a slow chemical igniter ...

    PS Maybe it would make sense for VO to "put" a box of rac. Offers for former military specialists who are now on the sofas, and who, quite by chance, can offer something worthwhile ... (inaccessible to the Enemy).
  15. 0
    10 March 2023 20: 31
    Hello. Who knows what those gray thin rectangles on the front cheekbones of the Challenger 2 tank are in the photo? the Abrams have the same ones. This is extra. protection? Couldn't find a description of this anywhere.
    Thank you.