Biplane Y-5 - Chinese copy of the Soviet An-2

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Biplane Y-5 - Chinese copy of the Soviet An-2

After the formation of the People's Republic of China, the Soviet Union provided very substantial assistance in building up Chinese industry and training national personnel. At the same time, full-scale samples and technical documentation necessary for the independent production of weapons and equipment were transferred to China.

Active Soviet-Chinese defense cooperation continued until the early 1960s, thanks to which the foundations of the military-industrial complex were laid in the PRC, and the modern weapon.



Production of Y-5 aircraft in the 1950s–1970s


In 1948, the serial production of the An-2 multi-purpose biplane began in the USSR. Although this aircraft, which appeared at the beginning of the "jet era", did not have high speed and flight range, it could be operated from unpaved areas of limited length and was suitable for solving a wide variety of tasks. Versatility, reliability and simplicity of design provided the An-2 with enviable longevity. In addition to the USSR, cars of this type were produced under license in Poland and China.

The An-2 braced biplane with a single-column wing box, depending on the modification and purpose, had a crew of 1-3 people. It could carry a payload of 1 kg or up to 500 people in the passenger version. As a power plant, an ASh-12IR air-cooled carburetor engine with a take-off power of 62 hp was used. With. (rated power 1 hp), rotating a four-bladed propeller with a diameter of 000 m.

The length of the aircraft is 12,4 m, the span of the upper wing is 18,17 m. The maximum take-off weight is 5 kg. Maximum speed - 250 km / h, cruising - 256 km / h. Practical ceiling - 160 m. Practical range - 4 km. With a maximum load, the take-off run is 200 m. The length of the run is 990 m.

In the 1950s, the PLA Air Force needed a light transport and passenger aircraft, and after getting acquainted with the An-2, the Chinese command decided that it suited them perfectly. At that time, there were not many major runways in the PRC, and the corn grower could freely be based on poorly prepared sites with a runway 300 m long. In addition, the An-2 was very easy to pilot and maintain, and preparation for a re-flight did not take a lot of time.


One of the first Y-5s

In the People's Republic of China, this machine was originally designated "Fengshou-2", and then Y-5 (运-5, Yunshu-5 or Yun-5). Serial construction was launched at Plant No. 320 in Nanchang (now Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation - NAMC, Nanhang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation), where, in parallel with the Y-5 biplane, training aircraft CJ-5 (Chinese version of the Yak-18) were serially built . The ASh-62IR engine under the designation HS-5 is manufactured in China at the aircraft engine plant in Suzhou.

It is known that by 1986 more than 2 of these motors were produced. The first Chinese maize took off in March 600, after which mass production began.


Until the end of 1958, the customer received 229 aircraft. In total, the Nanchang Aviation Plant produced 1958 Y-1968 biplanes from 727 to 5.


In Nanchang, Y-5A transport and passenger aircraft were built, corresponding to the Soviet An-2T, agricultural Y-5II (sometimes referred to as Y-5B), amphibious hydroplanes Y-5C - also capable of landing on land, training Y-5D - for training crews of bombers and military transport aircraft.


Aircraft Y-5C

Subsequently, part of the Y-5D was converted into 5-7-seat aircraft of improved comfort, designed to carry especially important passengers: party functionaries, diplomats and high-ranking military men. The PRC government presented such aircraft to the North Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh and the King of Nepal.

In connection with the development of the production of Q-5 jet attack aircraft in Nanchang, they tried to establish the production of multi-purpose piston biplanes in Harbin. But the Harbin Aircraft Plant, which was hit hard by economic difficulties and a general decline in industrial production caused by the Cultural Revolution, hardly supported the production of Z-5 helicopters (a copy of the Mi-4) and H-5 jet bombers (a copy of the Il-28). In this regard, the construction of the Y-5 aircraft in May 1970 was transferred to the Shijiazhuang Aircraft Plant No. 522 (now part of the HAIG industrial group - Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation).

Late modifications of Chinese Y-5 biplanes


At the first stage, the Chinese An-2s being built in Shijiazhuang practically did not differ from the Soviet prototype. But later, new modifications appeared. So, by 1980, several machines were produced in the version of electronic intelligence and electronic warfare.

An electronic reconnaissance aircraft recorded the coordinates of the decimeter and centimeter frequency radar stations, and another aircraft with high-frequency generators interfered with them. However, the military quickly became disillusioned with such a duet. The generated power of the jamming transmitters was small, and the limited internal volume did not allow placing the required amount of electronic intelligence equipment.

In addition, the range and flight speed of the biplane were clearly not sufficient in the event of a confrontation with a technologically advanced enemy with supersonic fighters.

Beginning in 1987, the factory design bureau of plant No. 522 began work on the phased modernization of the aging biplane, taking into account operating experience. For flights in subtropical regions, the thermal insulation of the engine from the cockpit was improved and additional ventilation was introduced. Introduced additional anti-corrosion treatment of metal parts. Pilots have new instruments, means of communication and navigation at their disposal.

The aircraft, upgraded by the factory design bureau, received the designation Shijiazhuang Y-5B. Serial production of this version began in 1996. The Shijiazhuang Aircraft Plant produced more than 380 modified copies of the An-2, and in total, by the end of 2002, about 1 aircraft of the Y-100 family were built in the PRC.

In connection with the cessation of production of HS-5 engines in China, Polish-made ASz-5IR engines have been installed on Y-1990B aircraft since the mid-62s.


Agricultural aircraft Y-5В(К)

Based on the Shijiazhuang Y-5B, several different specialized variants were produced, including aircraft for aerial photography, luxury cars for foreign tourists, transport and passenger aircraft with the ability to quickly convert into an agricultural version, a parachuting aircraft and a number of others.

In the early 1990s, the cost to build a Y-5 biplane was about 300 yuan. In the 000st century, the output of Y-5B in the PRC decreased, and 20–25 aircraft were produced annually.

Thanks to the possibility of installing an additional fuel tank, the practical flight range of the upgraded Shijiazhuang Y-5B has increased to 1 km. The introduction of a new propeller slightly increased the rate of climb and reduced the takeoff run.

The Shijiazhuang Y-5B-100 aircraft received modern avionics, satellite navigation with an electronic map and an obstacle warning system when flying in poor visibility conditions.


Y-5B-100

The most notable difference introduced by this modification was the feather-like tips of the upper wing. According to Chinese sources, thanks to the introduction of this innovation, controllability at low speeds has improved, fuel efficiency has increased, and the takeoff run has been reduced by 20%. The standard takeoff distance for the Y-5B-100 is only 170m, while the takeoff distance for an unladen aircraft is 105m.

In November 2018, at the China Airshow 2018 aerospace exhibition in Zhuhai, the Chinese corporation AVIC presented a new remotorized version of the Chinese An-2.


Turboprop aircraft Y-5BG

The new modification, designated Y-5BG, is equipped with an American Honeywell TPE331-12UAN turboprop engine with a capacity of 1 hp. With. and the Garmin G100TXI digital avionics complex.

Unfortunately, reliable information about the flight data of the Y-5BG could not be found. But by analogy with the An-3 turboprop, on which the TVD-20 with a capacity of 1 hp was installed. With. with a three-bladed reversible propeller with a diameter of 375 m, it can be assumed that the maximum flight speed of the Y-3,6BG does not exceed 5 km / h, and cruising - about 250 km / h. Load capacity - no more than 220 kg. The practical flight range is up to 1 km.

At an international exhibition aviation general purpose, held in mid-October 2019 in the city of Shijiazhuang, a preliminary agreement was signed between Tupolev PJSC and AVIC Corporation on the supply of ten Y-5B light multi-purpose aircraft (possibly upgraded Y-5BG) to an unnamed operator from the Ural region of the Russian Federation.

As written in the Chinese media, these aircraft are planned to be used in the interests of agriculture and to prevent forest fires. The upgraded biplanes produced in China were planned to be delivered to Russia in two batches.

Y-5 aircraft service


Since the beginning of the 1960s, Y-5 aircraft of various modifications have been very actively used in the PLA Air Force, army and naval aviation, as well as in the national economy of the PRC. In addition to the training of paratroopers, the delivery of personnel and cargo, low-speed biplanes were used to patrol hard-to-reach border areas and the sea. Several Y-5s were used to film Chinese nuclear tests and various missile launches. To probe the atmosphere at high altitude, at least one biplane was equipped with a turbocharger and oxygen equipment.


Chinese copies of the An-2, along with the original Soviet-made aircraft, were used by North Vietnam for the transfer to field runways erected near the line of contact, ammunition and medicines. The Vietnamese tried to use several vehicles armed with machine guns and unguided rockets against ground targets and American combat river boats operating in the Mekong Delta.

During the armed conflict between Vietnam and China in February-March 1979, the same type of Y-5, belonging to the PLA and VNA, took out the wounded from the combat zone, urgently delivered various supplies and command personnel.

As new light transport and passenger aircraft and helicopters appeared in the PRC, the role of Y-5 biplanes in military transport decreased. Nevertheless, aircraft of this type are still used by the Chinese armed forces.


Satellite image of Google Earth: Y-5B aircraft at Xinchen Air Base in Liaoling Province

According to reference data, the PLA Air Force transport aviation has about 90 Y-5B aircraft, which are operated in the interests of the airborne troops and in search and rescue and transport units. The Chinese navy is using three dozen biplanes to search and rescue those in distress off the coast.

In the last decade, several dozen Y-5Bs, which have a significant resource, have been handed over to civilian users by the Chinese military. These vehicles have retained their camouflage colors, but have different markings and numbers.


In Chinese civil aviation, Y-5s are still very active. These machines fly in the sparsely populated desert and mountainous parts of China, they carry passengers, cargo and provide postal communication.


In the past, the maize was the main agricultural aircraft of the PRC. But now in this field in China, more economical aircraft and drones.

A significant part of the biplanes produced at Chinese factories was exported to China-friendly countries in Asia and Africa. In Europe, the only official recipient of the Y-5 aircraft was Albania.


Aircraft Y-5 Albanian Air Force

North Korea received the most machines of this type (up to 150 units). According to foreign expert estimates, up to 200 An-2 and Y-5 aircraft can currently be stored and in operation in the DPRK. Most likely, much more recent Y-5s remained in flight condition.


Satellite image of Google Earth: North Korean An-2 / Y-5 aircraft at Sondok airbase, the image was taken in early 2022

Slow-moving North Korean aircraft, painted black, were used to transfer saboteurs to South Korea at night. They could fly low and slow enough to be undetected. Currently, one of these biplanes, captured by South Korean security forces, is on display at a military museum in the suburbs of Seoul.


Part of the biplanes in the DPRK were armed with missiles. Not so long ago, a report from military exercises was shown on North Korean television, where, among other things, NARs were launched from these aircraft at ground targets.

Unmanned aerial vehicles based on the Y-5


It is known that several types of UAVs for various purposes have been created in China based on the Y-5. The first radio-controlled aircraft of this type were prepared to take samples from the cloud of a nuclear explosion. Also, biplanes of the early series, after the development of an operational resource, were converted into radio-controlled targets used in the process of combat training of air defense forces.

The most famous UAV was the FH-98 (Feihong 98), converted from a manned Y-5B. This drone, developed by China Aerospace Science and Technology Group, made its first flight in 2018. After that, several overhauled aircraft built in the second half of the 1990s were converted into remotely piloted vehicles.


UAV FH-98

The FH-98 UAV was developed in the interests of the military and was tested by the PLA. To control the cargo drone, a ground station was used, originally designed to control other Chinese reconnaissance and strike drones. drones. During a demonstration flight, a cargo container was dropped from an unmanned biplane on a parachute to a given point.

The main purpose of the FH-98 UAV is to deliver cargo to areas where the likelihood is too high that a manned transport aircraft or helicopter will be shot down by the enemy. In addition, the drone can also be used to drop large-caliber aviation ammunition, lay mines, and also as a decoy to open air defense positions.

However, civilian use of this unmanned vehicle is also possible. According to the press service of the large transport holding SF Express (the second largest Chinese cargo delivery holding), on August 21, 2020, the FH-98 UAV made its first commercial flight, delivering cargo to Baotou Airport (Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region).
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  1. +27
    19 January 2023 05: 03
    on the delivery to an unnamed operator from the Ural region of the Russian Federation of ten Y-5B light multi-purpose aircraft
    We flew! Our AN-2s are supplied to us by the Chinese! Shame!
    1. +19
      19 January 2023 05: 52
      Completely agree with you, Disgrace.
      I hope that my comment, although short, makes sense!
    2. +16
      19 January 2023 06: 31
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      We flew! Our AN-2s are supplied to us by the Chinese! Shame!

      Yes, we had an analogue of the AN-3, even in operation. And it was produced for almost 10 years ... one piece per year. Only no one needs it with such an attitude towards small aircraft. And when Chilingarov drove a copy to the South Pole for advertising, where they could not start it, and they left it for several years, then potential customers refused them. And there were a couple of them left in the Ministry of Emergency Situations and on a postage stamp.
      1. +20
        19 January 2023 07: 44
        1. For a good owner, everything works on the farm.
        2. Azerbaijan, with the help of AN-2 UAVs converted into UAVs, opened air defense in Karabakh.
        3. An-2 - Soviet aircraft. It was developed under the leadership of the communists. So, the PRC real the successor of the USSR has every right to the An-2.
        4. The Communists of the People's Republic of China send warm greetings to the builders of developed capitalism in a former northern superpower. Who handed over for scrap all the small aircraft of the USSR.
        1. +9
          19 January 2023 15: 02
          Here I agree with you with a reservation, not only small, but all aviation .. The nouveau riche class pouring mud, did not invent anything new, also pumped hydrocarbons and ingots of metals ... The people were gagged with bush legs and cheap vodka, shouting about victory = success on every corner .... AK-12 is all that managers are capable of ...
    3. +16
      19 January 2023 07: 46
      In our reality, this is a good option. Close the holes of good and proven technology. By the way, in China they produce copies of the An-12 and An-24, which we now need so much.
      But their pride will not allow to buy them.
      Everywhere shouting about greatness and not being able to do anything - this is really a disgrace.
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  2. +21
    19 January 2023 05: 11
    At the beginning of my journey, I happened to serve this aircraft. Simple as an orange, reliable, versatile, and most importantly, forgiving the mistakes of both pilots and engineering and technical workers. The plane is so simple that if you put a whole design bureau at work to simplify it, then nothing would have come of them. This is me about the An-2. I am sure that this Chinese miracle is the same ... And thanks to the author for the article!
    1. +13
      19 January 2023 05: 59
      The whole company of the boys went to the old Barnaul airfield to look at the jumps of paratroopers just from the AN-2. Well, they jumped, and jumped, soar slowly, beauty! 100 meters, looking far away. Oh, youth, childhood, beautiful far away, the sixties !!!
    2. -8
      19 January 2023 08: 56
      Is it really so light and easy to manage and ready to forgive the mistakes of the pilots?

      The design, with all its advantages, still has certain disadvantages due to the not too successful deep location of the front chassis.
      1. +7
        19 January 2023 09: 00
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Is it really so light and easy to manage and ready to forgive the mistakes of the pilots?

        Well, perhaps, if the pilot completely beguiled the coast ... wink
        1. -4
          19 January 2023 10: 03
          Well, yes, again the pilots are to blame, and not a poorly balanced design. There is no need to sculpt a divine image from an ordinary and far from the most perfect design. And even more so, you should not blame the pilots, where the design flaw is obvious.
          1. +11
            19 January 2023 10: 57
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            do not blame the pilots, where the design flaw is obvious

            Landing a plane with its nose on the ground with such high landing gear and low landing speed as the An-2 can only be done by a pilot, calling him with a Russian unprintable expression, I will immediately get a ban ...
            1. -2
              19 January 2023 11: 34
              What are you saying? sad That's all, for sure, the enemies are slandering! wassat They also place in a multitude of photographs with their noses buried in the ground. wassat
              Perhaps, to help you and your opinion, prohibit the posting of such photographs, then the design of the aircraft will become just perfect. bully
              1. +1
                19 January 2023 16: 48
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                Yes, what are you saying? That's all, for sure, the enemies are slandering!

                No, not enemies. People are incompetent and poorly versed in the essence of the issue ...
                1. -4
                  19 January 2023 21: 25
                  Do you want to call those who post a lot of photos with An-2 buried in the ground, poorly versed in the essence of the issue? Or do you not like it so much that the plane is prone to sticking its nose, and are ready to declare all those who disagree are poorly versed? And who then understands, the one who will deny the photos with disasters?
                  Are you well versed in the matter if you are trying to deny one of the most obvious layout flaws?
                  How many times have I already sworn off writing in aviation topics, due to the dubious orientation of the majority of the discussion participants in them, to put it mildly, but here it is again.
      2. +8
        19 January 2023 09: 20
        Sorry. How many flew on the An-2 as a passenger but never noticed the front landing gear.
        1. -4
          19 January 2023 10: 00
          Well, of course, because it is not there, so the plane nods during unsuccessful landings sometimes, as in the photo.
    3. +9
      19 January 2023 09: 55
      Truth! I had to fly on different planes ... And on the IL-28 too. But in my heart there was always warmth for Annushka ... I worked on it in agricultural aviation ... A wonderful car! Then, when the license was sold to the Poles, I also had the Polish version. Zadolbali with their heavy hoods to mess around. How many I looked at our projects for the modernization of our design bureaus ... I didn’t like a single one ... True, I didn’t see the Chinese. Unique plane! Antonov had another good version of the An-14 "Bee" Headquarters, he sat in the cockpit, but did not have to fly. It is not clear why the series did not go.
      1. -3
        19 January 2023 11: 05
        Here, according to the AN-14 "Bee" scheme, it was necessary to go with the development of small aircraft. Only put more powerful engines.
    4. +1
      19 January 2023 12: 58
      An excellent aircraft, only equipment flies on a hump, "leather" from the MS-20, my technical equipment in my youth is a witness to this. The elephant, who did not have time to grow up to chemistry, went to a more comfortable technique heh, heh An-24.
    5. +1
      19 January 2023 17: 58
      It seems that the ONLY drawback (of the engine) is a very high oil consumption - almost 5 kg / hour or 4% of the fuel consumption.
  3. +11
    19 January 2023 05: 19
    Our wise state leadership killed small aircraft with their own hands. Now the regional centers and districts of the regions are two unconnected worlds. During my youth, in almost every village there was an airfield (aka a pasture, aka a football field) and corn workers flew like minibuses. Now this is not. And it won't. Because what they are going to replace with a cheap and reliable maize is expensive, pointless and DOES NOT EXIST. Shame and shame.
    1. +12
      19 January 2023 07: 28
      It's not just about small aircraft. The problem is the lack of design bureaus and production capacities. The Russian aviation industry has shrunk to such a size that it is no longer capable of large-scale production of various flight equipment. It can only produce individual aircraft and helicopters in small batches, or even in general, by the piece.
    2. AB
      +3
      19 January 2023 12: 58
      I read the article and recalled how in my distant youth, back in the early 90s, in the village of FarFarIescheFurther, where I lived then, such cars landed on a flat field and took paratroopers, or passengers. And then everything. Do you want to go on a plane? Three hours on the road by car, four or five by bus.
  4. +10
    19 January 2023 05: 50
    Export of the upgraded AN-2 to Russia

    —-This is a symbol of the degradation of Russian industry. And the efficiency of the capitalist future, the invisible hand of Adam Smith….

    --I have no words! One hope, and only unreasonable relevance.
    1. -5
      19 January 2023 07: 27
      The insidious oligarchs, with the help of a time machine, sent Petrov and Boshirov to the 70s and they eliminated the production of AN-2 in the USSR!
  5. +3
    19 January 2023 06: 17
    At first, I didn’t recognize the author’s style by the style, but the illustration from Google maps instantly identified Sergey Linnik)
  6. +8
    19 January 2023 06: 27
    As a power plant, an ASh-62IR air-cooled carburetor engine with a take-off power of 1 hp was used. With.


    The same engine was also installed on the 2-engine Li-2, the unified cylinder-piston group of this engine was used on many aircraft, ranging from La-5, La-7 fighters, Tu-2 bombers, well, Il-12, Il- fourteen . Unification is a great achievement of the technical policy of the USSR.
    1. -3
      19 January 2023 09: 09
      The twin-engine Li-2 had essentially the same design flaws in the chassis layout as the AN-2. If you do something with a really successful ASh-62IR engine, then an aircraft with a chassis arrangement according to the "Rysachok" project with a slightly larger capacity and reliability.
      1. +1
        19 January 2023 18: 03
        Actually, LI-2 is a licensed copy of the DOUGLAS DC-3 aircraft developed in the 30s!
    2. MSN
      +3
      19 January 2023 09: 39
      The piston stroke of ASh-62 is 174,5 mm, and for ASh-82 (La-5, La-7 and others) it is 155 mm. They are not very unified.
      1. 0
        20 January 2023 00: 10
        The piston stroke of ASh-62 is 174,5 mm, and for ASh-82 (La-5, La-7 and others) it is 155 mm. They are not very unified

        I wrote the cylinder-piston group, the piston and the diameter of the cylinders, but not the crankshaft, although the diameter of the necks is the same. A double star and another crankshaft, respectively, and the piston is the same. M-62s were also installed on I-16 and I-15
        1. MSN
          +1
          20 January 2023 17: 29
          Even for ASh-62 there are several types of pistons (5 groove, 6 groove early, late) and different piston rings. And interchangeability in maintenance and repair is very limited. And connecting rod mechanisms are different and crankshafts. And again, very limited interchangeability. Or interchangeable, but with a lot of locksmith improvements, according to MOT and E. All this for one engine. And you about different.
    3. +4
      19 January 2023 10: 00
      If memory serves, then the ASh14-T engines were on the IL-82.
      1. 0
        19 January 2023 21: 38
        And what did they put on Tu4? Are these ICEs? or dokoye "Stars".
        1. +1
          23 January 2023 08: 34
          The Tu-4 was equipped with a copy of the American Wright engine for 18 cylinders.
  7. +8
    19 January 2023 08: 14
    Only now, after many years, you understand how powerful the Union was, even if China, which has much less capabilities, was able to exploit the Soviet legacy for so long.
    1. MSN
      +4
      19 January 2023 09: 46
      Wright Cyclone R-1820 --- M-25 --- M-62. Someone is really powerful.
      1. +2
        19 January 2023 21: 39
        Moreover, we have not reached the resource of the original.
  8. +5
    19 January 2023 09: 51
    The first Chinese maize took off in March 1958

    Forgive me, the author, but for China, the first flight of the first aircraft produced in their country was a very significant event, because its date is "inscribed in golden letters" in history - on December 7, 1957, aircraft No. 01 made its first successful flight in Nanchang.
    The ribbon was cut before the flight.

    A successful flight was marked by "mass festivities."
  9. +1
    19 January 2023 10: 29
    In connection with the cessation of production of HS-5 engines in China ...
    Author Sergey Linnik

    Why did they stop?
  10. +8
    19 January 2023 10: 30
    Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
    Our wise state leadership killed small aircraft with their own hands.

    If only small and only aviation. It killed almost everything.
    And still in power
  11. TIR
    +8
    19 January 2023 10: 50
    Destroying the An-2 was another problem. In order for it to collapse, it was necessary to refuse the engine, break off the wings and tail, but even in such a situation, due to the absence of any aerodynamics, it could gently fall to the ground.

    P.S. Based on the monologue about Vzhig-9 by Yuri Galtsev
  12. SNA
    +5
    19 January 2023 10: 57
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    The twin-engine Li-2 had essentially the same design flaws in the location of the chassis as

    Yeah, and has been flying all over the world since 1935. This is about DC-3 and C-47.
    1. -3
      19 January 2023 11: 27
      Over and over again, I am ready to repeat the thesis that there is no need to pull rubbish from the past, it is necessary to take the best from there. The same, but more modern Il-14 was superior to the Li-2 in all respects.
      If we revive aircraft on piston engines, then we should take as a basis the best samples, and not miserable dangerous designs.
      The An-2 was supposed to replace the An-14 or something larger, and the Li-2 was replaced by the Il-14, which could still fly now, it was so good.
      1. +4
        19 January 2023 14: 10
        Over and over again, I am ready to repeat the thesis that there is no need to pull rubbish from the past, it is necessary to take the best from there.

        Yes, you are an outstanding thinker! Before you, everyone thought that it was necessary to take the worst from the past. And it's like that!
        1. -3
          19 January 2023 20: 14
          People are dragging Li-2 and An-2, which means that the positions require clarification. And criticism of structures that are outdated and unsuitable in modern conditions is a must. Otherwise, it seems that the majority here thinks that the An-2 and Li-2 were ruined by enemies, and not by innate design flaws.
          1. +2
            19 January 2023 23: 12
            They weren't killed by birth defects. Their time has passed. But nothing worthy was created in their place.
      2. +2
        19 January 2023 18: 51
        LI-2 (DC-3) Development 30 years - IL-14 5O years! 50 years of aviation development has passed!
        1. -2
          19 January 2023 20: 16
          Well, the opponent claims that the LI-2 (DC-3) is still flying and, therefore, almost the height of perfection.
          1. +4
            19 January 2023 23: 20
            DC-3 is a truly outstanding design for its time, epoch-making, one might say. A 1937 aircraft is still flying, and Basler Turbo Conversions is converting old C-47s into Basler BT-67s for commercial and military use.
  13. 0
    19 January 2023 12: 40
    I personally like the idea of ​​converting into a drone. In places with weak air defense, it’s the most rough to direct, and it’s safe for pilots, which of the shkololos can be trained on a computer, and at this shkololo’s home.
    1. -1
      19 January 2023 13: 16
      With such dimensions and a maximum speed of 236 km / h, it’s not like you can’t get away from an air defense missile, you could escape from a heavy machine gun and a ZU-23-2 along the way.
  14. +1
    19 January 2023 17: 35
    A wonderful aircraft ... in demand and with a need in the future ... BUT UZGA won a different path ... so far very controversial ... time will tell
  15. +4
    19 January 2023 18: 03
    Quote: Jackson
    By the way, in China they produce copies of the An-12 and An-24, which we now need so much.
    But their pride will not allow to buy them.
    Everywhere shouting about greatness and not being able to do anything - this is really a disgrace.

    They won’t sell them, they are equipped with Canadian engines, for the re-export of which Canada will not give permission. And in the Russian Federation there are ALREADY no such engines, if there were, then you could just buy fuselages to plug holes
    1. 0
      9 March 2023 09: 56
      Quote: clou
      Quote: Jackson
      By the way, in China they produce copies of the An-12 and An-24, which we now need so much.
      But their pride will not allow to buy them.
      Everywhere shouting about greatness and not being able to do anything - this is really a disgrace.

      They won’t sell them, they are equipped with Canadian engines, for the re-export of which Canada will not give permission. And in the Russian Federation there are ALREADY no such engines, if there were, then you could just buy fuselages to plug holes

      An - 12 is a Y - 8 transport aircraft, the engine is made in China, Kazakhstan, Myanmar, Venezuela bought Y - 8, you say, imported engines can be exported to other countries, designated by foreign engines, is China's most exported transport aircraft. 
  16. +6
    19 January 2023 20: 01
    It was not in vain that Antonov himself said that it was the An-2 that was his greatest achievement, for me the eternal Great Aircraft, thanks Sergey, excellent article.
  17. SNA
    +2
    20 January 2023 08: 35
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    rather than inherent design flaws.

    Tail wheel landing gear, is this a design flaw?
    1. 0
      4 March 2023 20: 07
      Do you think this is an advantage? The tendency of the aircraft to peck its nose at the ground is difficult to attribute to merits, although, apparently, most people think so. And the military, with outstanding military characteristics, the engine, with a star-shaped arrangement of cylinders, is not so good for small civil aviation. For civil aviation, a liquid-cooled piston engine is preferable.
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    2 March 2023 19: 12
    Oh, woke up nostalgia for the pioneer childhood! wink
    In 1983, the decommissioned An-2 was placed in the pioneer camp "Forest Republic" in Brusino (between Slavyansky and Krasny Liman). Among other pioneers, they climbed the entire plane, except that they did not climb onto the roof so as not to burn themselves. There was no artificial horizon and two more devices on the dashboard, and so, even the battery was not removed, because that year even the lighting in the cockpit and cabin turned on wink

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    25 March 2023 16: 54
    Good for small aircraft.
    And put on the radio control, and it’s divine to make a “Geranka-Shaheda” with a FAB-1500 on board.