Austro-Hungarian large-caliber guns of the First World War

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Austro-Hungarian large-caliber guns of the First World War


"The people who stood and heard that,
said it's thunder.

Gospel of John 12:29

Heavy artillery of the First World War. Not so long ago I read that some American military man, having seen pictures of the battles in the Northern Military District, said that he was surprised at how much it all reminded him of the pictures of the battles of the First World War, although more than 100 years had passed. And there is really nothing to be surprised about here. People are slaves of circumstances, and since everything has turned out this way, it means that the circumstances that affect them are just that.



And what do we see? And we still see the exceptionally large role of artillery, and large calibers of 155, 203 and 240 mm. That is story made another round and almost returned to where it started. But, of course, there is a difference between the artillery of 1914 and 2022, and a considerable one.

But what was it like, the artillery of the warring countries?

We will tell about this, and we will start with the letter "A", which means - with the artillery of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy.


120 mm gun M.80. Well, straight from the book about Captain Daredevil. By the way, a very similar 1877-mm caliber gun of the 152 model was in the Museum of the Soviet Army in Moscow. Rice. A. Sheps

You will have to start with the fact that, although the armies of Europe on the eve of the First World War were modernizing the artillery park, the Austro-Hungarian army, like all other European armies, entered the war with a considerable part of the artillery represented by obsolete models.

These were 120 mm M.80 caliber guns, the same 150 mm gun - M.80, and the 180 mm short gun ... also M.80, and all three were almost identical, except for the caliber. All carriages, for example, were the same. In the Austro-Hungarian army, they had the designation Mobile Festungsartillerie - "mobile fortress artillery".

All three types were hard-mounted guns, without any modern recoil compensation mechanism. However, there was a cylindrical hydraulic mechanism with a cylinder and rod, which was often placed under the gun and attached to a properly prepared platform, which was used in deployment.

When the gun fired, it rolled back and at the same time moved up on special triangular wheel stands. While the piston attached to the gun carriage was pulled out of the cylinder attached to the platform slowed down the recoil, eventually returning the gun to its original position. The main difference between these guns were, as already mentioned, gun tubes, giving them the appropriate designation. They are briefly presented below.

Gun types: 12 cm M.80, 15 cm M.80, 18 cm M.80.
Barrel length, in calibers: 26,6; 24,2; 12,3.
Barrel length, in meters: 3,2; 3,6; 2,22.
Barrel weight: 1 kg, 700 kg, 3 kg.
Projectile weight: 16,7–19,8 kg; 31,5 kg; 62,5 kg.
Maximum firing range: 8 m; 000 m; 11 200 m.


It seems that the 15cm and 18cm M.80 (the Austro-Hungarians adopted the German centimeter caliber designation) were used almost exclusively in fortresses like Krakow and, of course, Przemysl. However, the 12-cm gun, which had a relatively long range and low weight, could be used and was used as field artillery. At the beginning of the war, the army was armed with 20 batteries, 4 guns of 12-cm M.80 each.

During the first two years of the war, it was originally the main long-range gun of the Austro-Hungarian army. However, the need to increase artillery support in the range of medium-caliber guns forced the Austro-Hungarian army to withdraw several 80 cm and 12 cm caliber M.15 fortress batteries and use them in the field.


Combat work M.15/16

As already noted, all three guns had the same carriage (that's when people were already striving for unification), which facilitated their maintenance and repair.

Many types of artillery were produced by Skoda. Long before the start of the war, it became clear that the army needed a new 150-mm gun. And it was at this enterprise that they began to develop it and called it “15cm Autokanone M.15 / 16” - that is, a tool that can be transported on mechanical traction. They needed to replace the 1888 model gun. But only in 1915, the first prototype of this gun was tested, and it entered service in 1916.


38 cm howitzer M.16

The gun turned out to be large, rather clumsy and heavy, and for transportation it had to be broken into two parts (barrel and gun carriage), although it was originally designed specifically as an “Autocanon”, that is, as a gun that was supposed to be towed by motorized tractors without disassembly.

The design of the gun was standard, with a hydraulic recoil absorption mechanism. With this tool, Austria-Hungary fought until its very end and collapse, and then it was used by the armies of many states.

And this is not surprising, since its purely artillery characteristics were not so bad. A projectile with a mass of 56 kg had an initial speed of 700 m / s, and flew at a distance of more than 16 km.

After the release of the first 28 copies, the mechanisms of the gun were finalized, which made it possible to increase the elevation angle of the barrel from + 30 ° to + 45 °, which, with a new type of projectile with a more streamlined outline, gave a maximum firing range of about 21 km. This slightly modified gun was designated M.15/16.

The rate of fire was low: one round per minute, and the turn on the carriage was limited: 6 ° in each direction. The gun weighed 11,9 tons in the firing position and 16,4 tons in the stowed position. It is not surprising that for its maintenance a calculation of 13 people was required. Moreover, its real caliber was still 152 mm, not 150, and the barrel length reached 5,1 m. The gun had a removable shield to protect its calculation from fragments.

Although cumbersome, it was a powerful gun, and after the First World War it was used by the armies of Austria (though only two guns), Czechoslovakia and Italy, who received several of these guns as trophies and reparations and used them under the designation Cannone da 152/37 - where the number "37" indicates the approximate length of the barrel in calibers.

During the 20s, Italian guns were carefully repaired by Vickers-Terni and received new cartridge cases, chambers and wheels. By June 1940, the Italians still had 29 of these guns in service, and they had to take part in the fighting in Albania, Greece and North Africa. By the end of 1940, they had 21 operational guns left, and all but four of them were in Italy, some of which were used as coastal defense guns.

The German army also began to use these guns! In 1939, those guns that were in Czech service were put into reserve, but they were recognized as serviceable enough to interest the Germans, who used them in the defense of the Atlantic Wall under the designation 15,2cm K 15/16 (t). Later in 1943, some of these guns, still in Italian service, were transferred to the Germans under the designation 15,2cm K 410(i). However, it is doubtful that the German army ever used them in combat.


240mm mortar M.98

A cannon is a cannon, it cannot reach the enemy on the reverse slopes of ravines and in trenches. This was clear long before the war and led to the fact that in 1898 the Skoda team developed a 240-mm mortar for the army. The M.98 weighed about 9,3 tons in firing position. It was transported only unassembled, for which it was disassembled into four sets of parts, each of which was pulled by horses or cars.


And this is how the 38 cm M.16 howitzer was loaded

Despite this, the deployment of the gun was "comparatively fast", according to the Austrian military. The barrel length was 2 mm, elevation angles were from +180° to +44°. Horizontal aiming - 65 °. The mortar could fire a 16-kilogram high-explosive projectile at about 133 meters. The initial speed of the projectile was 6 m / s. For service, a calculation of 500 people was required. To protect against enemy fire, it could be equipped with a shield.


Well, in this form it can be seen in the National Army Museum in Bucharest. This is the barrel on the conveyor

At the beginning of the First World War in August 1914, the Austro-Hungarian army was armed with 12 24-cm mortar batteries (each battery consisted of 4 guns), a total of about 96 guns (as in the case of the Austro-Hungarian artillery in general, there were problems with the supply of ammunition: there were only about 400 shells per gun). In January 1917, only about 30 M.98s were in service, and a year later it was reduced even more, so that only 2 batteries of 8 guns were active at the front.


And this is the carriage on which the barrel was fixed

In the early stages of World War I, the Austro-Hungarian 30,5 cm M.11 mortar was probably the most feared weapons, which could only be in service with any army, and it was used with impressive effect both on the Western Front and in the East, both in the Balkans and against Italy.

Design of the M.11 began in 1905, when the Austro-Hungarian General Staff ordered a gun heavy enough to destroy new Italian fortifications erected on the border between the two countries. The order went to the Škoda company in Pilsen, which had already made a name for itself by producing many excellent guns.


And these are the shells that flew out of this barrel!

Work on the mortar was completed in July 1908, and the first prototype was made the following year. In the summer of 1911, it was tested and showed excellent results, and then the mortar was adopted under the designation "30,5 cm Mörser M.11". The first order was received in December 1911 for the construction of 24 M.11s.

Considering the year, it was a very modern gun. The breech had a horizontal wedge gate, with several fuses from an accidental shot. Above the barrel were two cylinders: they housed the recoil brake. Three more cylinders were located under the barrel: they housed the knurler, i.e., the mechanism responsible for the forced return of the gun barrel to its original position after the shot.

The barrel and cradle were attached to the lower carriage, on which were the guidance mechanisms. The carriage rested on a base plate. The gun itself, of course, was very heavy: 20 kg, in order to move the M.830, the installation had to be dismantled, which, however, was done quite quickly, using only jacks and lifts.

As a result, the gun was disassembled into three large parts: the barrel, carriage and support box, which were mounted on special wheeled carriages. All of them were attached to a large 15-ton Skoda-Daimler M.12 tractor. The train was not fast, but it turned out to be surprisingly mobile. If the road was of acceptable quality, then the mortar could be transported in this way even in the Alps!


Carriage for transporting the barrel of a 420-mm howitzer

It soon became clear that modern forts could withstand any amount of shelling from conventional field artillery up to 210 mm in caliber. This was proved by the experience of Verdun, where such forts as Duamount or Vaud were not suppressed, although they were literally bombarded with shells. Only in the end they still had to be taken by storm.

On the contrary, almost nothing could resist a direct hit from a M.11 projectile. An M.11 grenade could penetrate two meters of concrete and explode inside the fort.

An unforeseen consequence of such a hit was the smoke from the explosion, which filled the casemates and corridors, forcing the defenders to leave the attacked fort. Simply put: there was no real protection against the projectiles of this mortar, unless the object of destruction was at a depth of about 3 meters in solid rock, or perhaps was covered with reinforced concrete of the same thickness. An explosive grenade fired from the M.11 created a crater about 5–8 meters in diameter: shrapnel from the explosion could penetrate solid structures at a distance of 100 meters and kill unprotected people at a distance of 400 meters. Only one M.11 grenade fuse could do as much damage as a full 15 cm grenade! All in all, it was a truly terrible weapon.


] 420-mm howitzer carriage on a chassis for transportation

During 1915, the Austro-Hungarian army received 20 M.11 batteries. Although the standard set of the M.11 battery consisted of 2 guns, each such mortar could be used one by one. This is due to a characteristic feature of the Austro-Hungarian army: unlike the Germans, it did not have a centralized artillery command. Even very heavy guns were placed under the control of divisional commanders, which gave each division close support, but at the same time reduced the number of guns that could be concentrated at one point. This, of course, was a consequence of the fact that the German army was more attack-oriented, while the Austrians and Hungarians quickly lost confidence in themselves and became more and more defensive-oriented.


Assembling the gun

Appetite comes with eating. Here in the Austro-Hungarian army they decided that 305 mm is, of course, good, but 380 mm is even better, and again they ordered such a gun from Skoda. Development began in April 1915, and simultaneously with the 42 cm howitzer.


High-explosive grenades for 420 mm howitzer

The first two guns of the 38-centimeter caliber M.16 even had their own names: "Gudrun" and "Barbara". They were involved on the Italian front to support the next offensive on the Isonzo River. The experience was considered successful, and the Austro-Hungarian high command ordered an additional 14 M.16 howitzers. They were used on all fronts with impressive effect, so that at the end of the war the Austro-Hungarian army already had ten of these monsters in service.

M.16 weighed about 81,7 tons in combat position, and it took about 6-8 hours to transfer it from traveling to combat position. She could fire a 740 kg projectile out to about 15 meters. The maximum rate of fire was 000 rounds per hour, or one shot every 12 minutes.


420 mm gun barrel

As for the Austro-Hungarian 42 cm howitzer, it was probably the most powerful artillery piece used in the First World War.

Interestingly, at first it was not conceived as a land weapon, but was intended to be used against naval targets, that is, to protect naval bases in the Aegean Sea. However, very soon the Austro-Hungarian high command found that the threat from the sea was less than the need for heavy artillery on the land fronts. Therefore, Skoda was asked to make these howitzers mobile, or at least transportable. Which is what was done.

As a result, the army received the 42 cm Haubitze M.14.


42-cm Haubitze M.14 - such installation in the First World War could fire 360 ​​°

The new gun was already used in the summer of 1915 on the Serbian, Russian and Italian fronts. But since it turned out to be very heavy, work on it was continued.

As a result, a tool was created, transported in six packs, which were transported by heavy tractors. The model received the designation M.16, and a year later the 42-cm Autohaubitze M.17, that is, the “vehicle-transportable howitzer,” appeared.

She did not manage to take part in the hostilities in the First World War, but she was used first by the Czech army, and then after the occupation of Czechoslovakia, the German army took the M.17 and fired at the Maginot Line from it, and later in 1942 used it to bombard Sevastopol, for which this heavy howitzer was just perfect.


And this is what it looked like during the Second World War

Thus, at the end of the First World War, the Austro-Hungarian army was armed with 8 42-cm howitzers M.14, M.16 and M.17, which were used on all fronts with considerable success. Considering their weight, they were surprisingly mobile. But moving these monsters was not easy: the calculation of one gun consisted of 210 people, 8 officers, 5 horses, 4 wagons and 32 (!) Trucks with trailers.

But, as they say, it was just something. With a caliber of 420 mm, the weight of a high-explosive projectile for this howitzer was about one ton. Its initial speed was 415 m/s. Firing range: 12 m. On her installation, she could fire at 700 °, at angles of elevation of the barrel from + 360 ° to + 40 °. Although the weight of the installation at the same time was 70 kg, it was assembled in 112 hours and disassembled in 735!
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  1. +2
    3 December 2022 05: 07
    Isn't it that their ukram will be supplied? But no one has preserved muzzle-loaders?
    1. 0
      3 December 2022 06: 30
      Well, the Ukrainians will definitely never collect them, what kind of 40 hours are there ... In 4 hours, everything will be handed over to scrap metal. Shrinkage-shrinkage
  2. -1
    3 December 2022 08: 31
    Yeah. Chauchat-Shpakovsky is on a roll again. He has octagonal trunks. Now here are the gun tubes.
    Crafts from plumbing affect, not otherwise.
    1. +3
      3 December 2022 10: 38
      Quote: Cure72
      Now here are the gun tubes.

      Are these all style errors that you found, dear Sergey, or are there more?
    2. +3
      3 December 2022 15: 12
      Quote: Cure72
      He has octagonal trunks.

      By the way, why didn’t you like the octagonal trunks? And the revolvers and carbines had hexagonal ones, and eight ... Didn't you see them in the photo?
      1. 0
        3 December 2022 15: 33
        Takto trunks are faceted. Octagonal, hexagonal. But in Chauchat it is charcoal.
        1. +2
          3 December 2022 18: 06
          Quote: Cure72
          Takto trunks are faceted. Octagonal, hexagonal.

          Then what is it about?
        2. TIR
          0
          19 January 2023 21: 00
          Is the trunk inside, outside, or both here and there? Where is it customary to look at the barrel with a theoretical view?
      2. -2
        3 December 2022 15: 36
        Is the historian not embarrassed that the corners of the trunk can only be inside? Offer an octagonal bullet by the way, I give an idea.
        1. +2
          3 December 2022 18: 15
          Quote: Cure72
          corners at the trunk can only be inside

          Did you write this drunk or foolishly?
          Quote: Cure72
          Offer an octagonal bullet by the way, I give an idea.

          Thank you, but such barrels were already developed back in the 19th century. In such guns, the edges of the bullet were twisted, it did not crash into anything. The edges, like conventional rifling, twisted along the entire length of the barrel. But faceted bullets were not used in them. And why - look for the answer on the Internet.
  3. +7
    3 December 2022 08: 59
    These were 120 mm M.80 caliber guns, the same 150 mm gun - M.80, and the 180 mm short gun ... also M.80, and all three were almost identical, except for the caliber. All carriages, for example, were the same.

    It was a series of M80 fortress guns, designed to replace the obsolete guns of the M61 series. Trunks of three different calibers were superimposed on a common carriage.
    But there was also a 15 cm Mörser M 80 - a mortar - it was not included in this series.

    By the way, the barrels of these guns were still made of artillery bronze.
  4. +2
    3 December 2022 09: 42

    Austro-Hungarian large-caliber guns of the Fourth World War...
  5. +2
    3 December 2022 10: 33
    It's okay :), but we have a railway transporter with a 305 mm gun. I think he's still alive. And most likely there are shells for him too. And there are shooting tables in the archives for it too. It would be cool if a 305 mm "suitcase" weighing under 500 kg fell on the head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine :)
    1. +1
      3 December 2022 10: 37
      Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8
      if a 305 mm "suitcase" weighing under 500 kg fell on the head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine :)

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      1. +8
        3 December 2022 13: 33
        if a 305 mm "suitcase" fell on the head of the APU


        Well, I would have fallen, but what's the point ... Actually, I don’t feel like laughing about everything that happens, but there’s no point in crushing water in a mortar.
        And to you, Vyacheslav, thanks for the article good , there is something in these monsters frighteningly attractive. smile
        1. +5
          3 December 2022 15: 10
          Quote: Sea Cat
          There is something about these monsters that is frighteningly attractive.

          I always thought so too.
          1. +8
            3 December 2022 15: 18
            For some reason, I remembered the semi-cartoon "The Secret of the Bek-Kap Island" with a cannon that was used to defend this island. smile

            1. +8
              3 December 2022 15: 48
              The Czechs filmed this film based on Jules Verne's novel "Flag of the Motherland".
              1. +6
                3 December 2022 16: 09
                Good day, Colleague. smile

                I didn’t know, he published it with us under the title “The Secret of Back-Cap Island”, but he didn’t read the novel itself.


                What I liked the most in the movie is a clockwork automatic pistol laughing and a very cute underwater fish with fins, unfortunately, the adversaries drowned her. sad

                1. +4
                  3 December 2022 16: 24

                  Jules Verne. Collected works in 12 volumes. 1954, if my memory serves me right. In the 10th volume - the novel "Flag of the Motherland".
                  1. +4
                    3 December 2022 16: 33
                    I don't argue. I haven't read it, and the book I posted could have been published even after the film's release, Mamon Publisher is embarrassing. smile
                    1. +2
                      3 December 2022 18: 42
                      "Mamon Publisher" is confusing.

                      This is the 2015 edition.
                      1. +2
                        3 December 2022 19: 33
                        Then the confusion with the name is understandable, many probably still remembered the film.
                    2. +3
                      3 December 2022 19: 56
                      "Mamon Publisher"
                      What is there some kind of "Dolly the Sheep" ??? Russia is the birthplace of elephants!!!)))
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                2. +4
                  3 December 2022 20: 16
                  Eugène Turpin, the "father of melinitis", sued Verne.
                  He decided that it was his persona that was the prototype of the scientist from the book of Jules Verne.
                  He lost the trial.
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              2. +7
                3 December 2022 18: 34
                This novel has another name: "Alignment to the banner"
      2. +6
        3 December 2022 15: 20
        It would be cool if a 305 mm "suitcase" weighing under 500 kg fell on the head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine :)

        One, let's say, not a smart individual, froze stupidity, the second, without thinking, although he undertook to write about artillery, "fiercely pluses."
        For reference, the maximum firing range of the TM-3-12 (sea transporter type 3 caliber 12 inches) of the 1938 model is 44 meters.
        PzH 2000 has 50, and actively - with a rocket projectile - 000. The M57 HIMARS with an M000A142 (GMLRS AW) rocket has 30 meters.
        That is, taking into account the rate of fire and the time to remove from the position, nothing "cool" came out of this undertaking. Maximum - two volleys. Then there would be no one to "jump on".
        1. +5
          3 December 2022 17: 46
          Without touching the rest
          but we have a railway transporter with a 305 mm gun. I think he's still alive.

          Yes, alive. Stands in the new railway museum at the Baltic station. Before that, it stood on Varshavskoye, but now everything is built up there. In the late 80s, judging by the sources, he stood on Krasnaya Gorka. Healthy machine. EMNIP, in 2003 starred in the TV series "Death of the Empire" (or its computer copy).
          Shirokorad writes that shooting from a wheel drive for this gun was a rare exception. By and large, a separate platform had to be concreted under the cannon, then the wheel drive should be "brought out" from under it.
          1. +4
            3 December 2022 22: 45

            His relative on Poklonnaya Hill in the Mother See!
            Hello reyata!
            1. +2
              3 December 2022 22: 50
              His relative on Poklonnaya Hill in the Mother See!

              Vladislav, hello! drinks What you presented is most likely 180mm.
              1. +2
                4 December 2022 06: 38
                She is born!
                Good morning Nikolay!
                Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment and, according to the site administration, does not carry useful information.

                crying
          2. +1
            8 December 2022 02: 56
            On "Krasnaya Gorka" there are 305 mm and 180 mm. 305 seems to be in a conditionally assembled form - they told me that they wanted to tail it for a non-rubber one and began to disassemble it - but the Pine Borers almost lay down on the rails. The missing nodes on the conveyor are visible - I climbed 305-ke, but not 180. Four years ago, everything was in place.
        2. +3
          3 December 2022 20: 43
          Quote from Baker
          maximum firing range TM-3-12 .... - 44 meters. For PzH 000 - 2000,

          Just for such a monster, it would make sense to make ERFB-BB shells, and leave the position after the second shot. I do not have an exact mathematical model, but I will simply assume by analogy that with such a projectile the range will increase to 70 - 80 km, which is already becoming interesting. It is possible that due to the proportionally larger diameter of the bottom, the effect of the bottom gas generator will be even greater, but this cannot be found out without firing.
          And if you screw in a GOS like a "dared man" or similar mine, it will be interesting - spending an expensive GOS on a projectile weighing half a ton, which cannot be shot down by any air defense, unlike a rocket, is not so offensive. For the price, the projectile will be more expensive than the drawing of the 1930s, but no more than one and a half times. Now there are 3D milling machines for foam plastic, casting according to a gasified model (styrofoam evaporating from a mold), which will greatly reduce the cost of a high elongation projectile with "support wings" and one belt at the back.
          1. +1
            8 December 2022 03: 13
            Then it’s 406 mm - https://openstreetmap.ru/#mmap=18/59.9927/30.52765&map=18/59.9927/30.52765 True, in what condition is it after the metal marauder .... There are many where the rails were removed. 90 meters to the west - 305 on the Durlacher machine, by the way.
    2. 0
      5 December 2022 17: 17
      Why are the "suitcases" from Smerch weighing a ton not satisfied?
  6. +10
    3 December 2022 15: 33
    The artillery units of the Austrian army consisted mainly of Czechs and Austrian Germans. I know what the author is writing from the story of my grandfather, who was a junior officer with a 280mm howitzer. I was a boy, no one wanted to disobey my grandfather, and I had to. He was with his unit from 1915 to 1918 on the Italian front. These are experiences for a lifetime. He was wounded at the front, after 1919 he was accepted into the Czechoslovak army as the head of the logistics of the artillery unit. In 1938, they were ready to fight, but my grandfather considered the betrayal of France and England a heinous betrayal. They wanted to fight, there were already two planes from the USSR at the airfield in Olomouc, and suddenly surrender. People (soldiers) were defeated. They were not allowed to destroy the weapons and then they proved themselves well in the German army, unfortunately also in Sevastopol. am
  7. +5
    3 December 2022 15: 38
    Austro-Hungarian large-caliber guns of the First World War

    To be precise, in almost all armies, artillery with a caliber of more than 155 millimeters is considered large-caliber. Therefore, if you follow the "author's plan", it was necessary to start with a 180 mm howitzer 18 cm kurze Kanone M 80.

    Then the 21 cm Mörser M. 16/18 howitzer.

    Then the 24 cm Kanone M. 16 cannon.

    Well, and then the 24 cm Mörser M 98 mentioned by the author.
    1. +6
      3 December 2022 15: 45
      Appetite comes with eating. Here in the Austro-Hungarian army they decided that 305 mm is, of course, good, but 380 mm is even better, and again they ordered such a gun from Skoda.

      First, Skoda ordered 350 mm 35 cm Marinekanone L / 45 M.16.

      The fact that she is "Marinekanone" - so to the sea, or rather to the battleships Ersatz Monarch, she did not get and was used on land.
    2. -1
      3 December 2022 16: 24
      The author's intention is simple. "Meli Emelya, your week"
      He also lacks a pension of 15 tyr for a book about the device and the history of a machine gun. As many as 200 bucks.
      Enough for trips to Turkey / Spain. Not for the book. Paradoxical Russian pension.
      After all, the author does not hide what he writes for the sake of the number of characters in the article. Sign=penny. I'm afraid to imagine when the quotes from the Bible run out, what's next - the Talmud? Book of Mormons?
      1. +3
        3 December 2022 18: 27
        Quote: Cure72
        15 tyr for a book about the device and the history of the machine gun

        Something you today, dear Sergey, write some nonsense, and all from ignorance. Today, publishing a decent book costs at least 500 rubles.
        And the amount of material does not affect the amount of the fee. It's just that sometimes it's hard to meet the required 8 thousand. And the limit is 14000. The material above is already perceived with difficulty. So for the future, if you decide to do online journalism, know that it is more profitable to write articles of 7,5 -8 thousand characters. Explained clearly?
        1. -1
          3 December 2022 18: 51
          Don't be nonsense. It's just that chauchat's memory is short.
          Let me remind you. You were offered to buy a book on the Shosh machine gun. You expressed indignation that 200 bacheys is an unbearable amount for Shpakovsky.
          And?
          1. +3
            3 December 2022 19: 34
            [quote = Cure72] No nonsense.
            You're right, I don't pay $200 for some one-day shit.
            1. 0
              3 December 2022 20: 03
              Yes, you have a one-day memory .. USSR Shpakovsky patriot. Collapse, Shpakovsky patriot. His, Shpakovsky is slightly studying the topic. Decide Monsieur Shpakovsky. Are you originally a renegade? Or mimicry?
              1. +3
                3 December 2022 20: 16
                And what do you care? Do not violate the rules of the site: the article is being discussed, not the author. Explained clearly?
              2. 0
                4 January 2023 15: 56
                That you are so negative towards a friend is not good. For those who don’t know the topic so deeply, it’s informative, and the style is alive, if you don’t like it, don’t read it ...
    3. +1
      3 December 2022 18: 20
      The text was very large and unreadable.
      1. 0
        3 December 2022 18: 37
        The text was very large and unreadable.

        To do this, there is your favorite "to be continued" technique.
        1. -1
          3 December 2022 18: 54
          And preferably a psalm. Well, Schaub pulled a thousand rubles.
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            1. +3
              3 December 2022 19: 32
              Quote from Baker
              There are no authors.

              Pour in!
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                1. 0
                  3 December 2022 20: 20
                  Quote from Baker
                  I did not find for myself a single argument for "joining".

                  Strange... But you have already joined and are working for us in the most active way. Scribble comment after comment, but do not think that you have "joined", ah-ah. And you can be banned very easily. Here at least for the comment 19.08. We, as you know, have freedom of speech and the freedom not to use it.
                  1. 0
                    3 December 2022 20: 32
                    So this is what you need. Comments = RUP, number of characters = Rup.
                    And then let's go to Turkey. Yes ? Modest Soviet pensioner.
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                      3 December 2022 20: 41
                      Sergey! Everyone has their own views on leisure and work, right? And by the way, in Turkey it is very good to have a rest. But I myself have never been there, it is too hot for me and my wife. Age, you know .. But why am I a "Soviet" pensioner, and even modest? Why? We all live in the Russian Federation, if anything.
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        4 January 2023 15: 59
        In the middle I fell asleep for an hour)), woke up, dined, finished reading. Thanks, I liked it. In MK in the mid-80s there was a series about WWI ships, in TM about tanks of the 30s, we played WWI, cards from millimeter paper, cards 4 * 4 cm, on the back there is a description, for art, caliber, weight, year of issue, etc. It's a pity we didn't have such an article then...
  8. exo
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    3 December 2022 19: 41
    And the article is excellent and the photos are beautiful. Thank you!
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    3 December 2022 21: 12
    Quote: kalibr
    Sergey! Everyone has their own views on leisure and work, right? And by the way, in Turkey it is very good to have a rest. But I myself have never been there, it is too hot for me and my wife. Age, you know .. But why am I a "Soviet" pensioner, and even modest? Why? We all live in the Russian Federation, if anything.

    You know . It just so happens that I have a good memory. I just remember your responses to comments. Yes .
    And I remember jeans for 300 rubles in Rostov. And I remember the Madonna service. And other orphan Penza quirks.
    You are a stranger to me personally. Yes, and you are alien to this country. You simply did not have enough money to dump in the promised country. Or vice versa, they had enough brains to stay and milk further. Although IN but I will go. Especially his Penza, Abraham himself bequeathed.
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      4 December 2022 07: 20
      You know Sergey, and you are just ... a stupid person, and very stupid! More than one generation of Soviet schoolchildren grew up on my books on children's technical creativity. You have a good memory, remember, I wrote about it. Then TV - 10 years on TV Penza and Kuibyshev every month of the program for children. Then textbooks and educational books. Many of them went to military universities and became tankers. That is, the defenders of the motherland. As a lecturer of the RK CPSU, I worked on strengthening the USSR and worked well, otherwise they would not have been sent to graduate school, right? Yes, your memory is defective. Not 300, but only 250. So if you think about it, our country owes me a lot. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have used and are using my intellect. You cannot afford such help to your country, hence all the envy. Here you reproached me with a machine gun. Write the next article about. BREN machine gun with 92% novelty according to Takstovod + photos from the Royal Arsenal in Leeds. Then we'll talk ... And where does Abraham, I do not understand. Again, a stupid allusion to the name. Well, she's not mine. Don't remember either? I chose her for good measure. But living in the USSR and trusting his native party, he was mistaken. It was necessary to take Dubov or Ivanov. Less fools would get attached.
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        4 January 2023 16: 01
        Do not pay attention to the troll, he plays on emotions, perhaps he will get drunk ... You can read more about what you are for Soviet schoolchildren and where you wrote, maybe I read it)) in the 80s
  10. +1
    3 December 2022 21: 20
    Quote from Baker
    It would be cool if a 305 mm "suitcase" weighing under 500 kg fell on the head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine :)

    One, let's say, not a smart individual, froze stupidity, the second, without thinking, although he undertook to write about artillery, "fiercely pluses."
    For reference, the maximum firing range of the TM-3-12 (sea transporter type 3 caliber 12 inches) of the 1938 model is 44 meters.
    PzH 2000 has 50, and actively - with a rocket projectile - 000. The M57 HIMARS with an M000A142 (GMLRS AW) rocket has 30 meters.
    That is, taking into account the rate of fire and the time to remove from the position, nothing "cool" came out of this undertaking. Maximum - two volleys. Then there would be no one to "jump on".

    You do not confuse passport data and realities.
    In the order of delirium - there is still a "Condenser" in the museum. This is a war of artillery, but where it will be taken from is another question.
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      4 December 2022 07: 35
      Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8
      and where it will be taken from is another question.

      Dmitriy! Never mind. This is a "connoisseur" to whom everything is wrong. Only his opinion is absolute. Just spit.
  11. 0
    4 December 2022 11: 49
    The Russians still do not know that they fought two wars with the Skoda factories (especially the operators of cars with the same brand). They don't want to. And so Russian history goes in circles!
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      4 December 2022 20: 22
      Yes, the Russians know, they know. The help of the Boatushki of the Czechs is remembered from the time they were civilians. Like brothers Bulgarians remember.
      Just like then, their governments looked in one direction and the people in the other.
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        20 January 2023 23: 25
        Well Bulgarians, not to be missed, no way. Some fixation on the Bulgarians. So how many weapons did they rivet in WWI and WWII against Russia?
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    7 December 2022 09: 53
    the Austro-Hungarian army was armed with 12 24-cm mortar batteries (each battery consisted of 4 guns), a total of about 96 guns

    96 guns or 48 (4 guns x 12 batteries)?
    I would also like to clarify. Signed under the color drawing "120-mm gun M.80". However, in a number of sources, an 18-cm M80 siege gun is signed under this picture. So what kind of gun is shown: 120 mm or 18 cm.