NATO and Ukraine: military aid and depletion

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NATO and Ukraine: military aid and depletion
American M141 grenade launchers handed over to Ukraine at the beginning of the year. Photo by the US Department of Defense


In recent months, the United States and its allies have supplied Ukraine with a large amount of weapons and military equipment worth tens of billions of dollars. Most of these supplies were carried out from the availability - the necessary products were taken from warehouses and army units. This approach allowed us to solve current problems, but created new problems. The reserves of foreign armies are gradually being depleted, and this may threaten their combat effectiveness.



Negative consequences


The risks associated with the mass supply of weapons to Ukraine began to be discussed already in the first weeks after the outbreak of hostilities. Soon the negative predictions of this kind came true. Due to assistance to the Ukrainian regime, some countries have been left without air defense systems or have lost a large number of armored vehicles and the chances of getting replacements for them soon.

In recent months, the situation has not fundamentally changed. At the same time, officials have already begun to talk about the negative consequences of the aid. For example, in September, the head of EU diplomacy, Josep Borrell, said that the stocks of most European countries have been significantly reduced, although there is no talk of exhaustion yet. Similar statements were made at the end of September by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

At the same time, the Alliance is trying to find ways out of this situation. So, at the end of last month, the NATO leadership held a meeting on the issues of resupply and parks. The topics of procurement, financing and participation of the military industry were discussed. There are already some plans, but their implementation requires time and effort.


Czech Party weaponssent at the beginning of the conflict. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic

It should be noted that the true scale of the current problem is not yet known. Some countries disclose the amount of aid provided, but the size of their arsenals, understandably, remains unknown. In this regard, it will not be possible to determine how much of its reserves this or that country has allocated - and how such assistance threatens its own security. For example, more than 880 155-mm artillery shells have been allocated by the United States as part of several aid packages, but the number of shells remaining in warehouses is unknown.

The scale of the problem


However, there are various unofficial estimates, incl. from foreign persons familiar with the situation. It is not clear how much the information provided corresponds to the real state of affairs. However, the estimated data allow us to imagine the approximate scale of the problem.

On September 28, the American edition of CNBC cited interesting data from Dave Des Roche, an associate professor at the US National Defense University. He pointed out that American industry in peacetime produces approx. 30 thousand artillery shells of 155 mm caliber. In the course of the current hostilities, Ukrainian formations consume this amount of ammunition in about two weeks.

This ratio of numbers worries the assistant professor. If the United States cannot increase the rate of production of shells, then in the near future they will not be able to help Ukraine. At the same time, it takes several months to increase output.

CNBC also quotes an analyst, retired ILC Colonel Mark Kansian. He suggests that the Pentagon can no longer supply certain types of weapons to the Ukrainian regime. They were shipped out of stock, and the existing fleet was reduced to the minimum allowable values. Further sending of such systems threatens the combat effectiveness of the American army.


British NLAW grenade launchers. The UK has contributed a significant percentage of its own stockpile of such weapons. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

M. Kansian recalls that not only the Ukrainian direction requires the attention of the army. For example, the United States expects a Chinese attack on Taiwan and is preparing for it. To support the island ally, the Pentagon also needs weapons and ammunition. This reserve, for obvious reasons, cannot be transferred to Ukraine.

The German armed forces also faced a reduction in arsenals. The German version of Business Insider on October 10 reported great difficulties in the Bundeswehr. From its sources in the army and political circles, the publication learned of an unacceptable reduction in arsenals.

First of all, there is a shortage of ammunition. According to NATO standards, Germany must have a supply of ammunition, shells, etc. for 30 days of hostilities at a calculated intensity. According to the results of the reductions of the past decades and active assistance to Ukraine, the reserve corresponds to only one or two days of combat work. However, specific numbers and indicators, incl. with layout by types are not given.

Attempts to solve


The leadership of NATO and the member countries of the organization plan to continue supporting the Kyiv regime and announce new deliveries of this or that weapon. At the same time, they understand emerging risks and offer ways to deal with them. First of all, it is planned to increase budgets for the purchase of weapons, as well as increase the pace of its production.


American howitzers M777. More than 100 such products have been delivered, new ones are expected. Further deliveries threaten US Army artillery. Photo by the US Department of Defense

However, such plans may be overly optimistic. So, on October 7, The National Interest published the assessments of retired intelligence officer and expert Joseph M. Donato. He points out that the US military-industrial complex is already operating at its current limits. In the recent past, changes in the military-political situation led to a reduction in industry, which reduced the possible pace and volume of military production. Now a logistical crisis has been added to this.

Germany faces the same problems. It is necessary to develop and expand production, and budgets are also required for the purchase of products. According to Business Insider, the Bundestag has calculated that just for the purchase of the required amount of ammunition, 20 billion euros will have to be found. Their production will take several years.

Negative trends


For several months, foreign states have been providing military-technical assistance to the Kyiv regime and are hoping for its victory. Despite the constant losses and the lack of any progress, they are ready to send new batches of weapons and equipment to Ukraine. However, such assistance now faces specific challenges and is likely to continue to worsen or even worsen.

To maintain the combat readiness of Ukrainian formations at an acceptable level, foreign allies will have to, at a minimum, maintain the current pace of deliveries. The result of this will again be the reduction of own reserves and parks, incl. to an unacceptably low level. In addition, individual countries can no longer afford massive supplies of aid, like Germany, which has minimal stocks of shells left.


Czech armored vehicles for Ukraine. Photo Telegram / ChDambiev

It is proposed to correct the current situation by expanding production and placing additional orders for military products. It is assumed that the new contracts will help cover the needs of the Kyiv regime, as well as gradually restore its own reserves. In addition, large orders will help the industry and have a positive impact on the economy as a whole. So, for this purpose, the United States ordered the production of 150 new artillery shells as part of several assistance packages, ordered German IRIS-T air defense systems, etc.

However, the implementation of such plans and the production of the required number of products may be in question. European and American industries are already facing logistical and energy challenges that are hurting productivity. In the very near future, new difficulties are expected, and this will again hit the industrial potential and the production of the necessary products. The further development of the energy and economic crisis will impose new restrictions. In addition, the industry of individual countries may receive unacceptable damage.

If foreign partners plan to continue to support Ukraine, they will have to allocate additional funding, solve organizational and other problems of the industry, and so on. In doing so, they will have to take into account a number of additional factors, such as developing crises or potential challenges in other areas. In particular, the US and NATO are openly talking about a future struggle for Taiwan, for which they need additional resources, weapons and ammunition.

Unpredictable results


The first forecasts about the negative consequences of military assistance to Kyiv appeared in the spring, but then NATO and the United States did not pay attention to them. They continued to solve their military-political tasks in accordance with the existing plans, but they failed to do this in the shortest possible time. The position of the Ukrainian ally continued to deteriorate, and foreign countries had their own problems of various kinds. Now we have to help the Kyiv regime with an eye to our own difficulties.

Apparently, in the foreseeable future, the United States and its allies will continue to supply weapons and equipment to Ukraine. However, this process will be complicated by already known and newly emerging factors. How they will deal with such difficulties is not yet clear. It can be assumed that the United States will find a way out and continue to solve its problems, apparently at the expense of one of its allies.
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  1. +1
    12 October 2022 05: 39
    NATO and the Anglo-Saxons are flies and meatballs. They should be separated, they have different interests in the European theater of operations. Basically understandable. England needs a naked Europe, without industry, resources and an army. She then organizes all this herself, on her own terms, including complete occupation. request From the beginning, of course, local brawls with shooting and showdowns with sovereignty in Spain, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Greece and wherever else they appear, this will finish off their armies completely. And then England is all in white, with Canadian-Australian mercenaries.
  2. +5
    12 October 2022 06: 14
    I do not quite understand the logic of such statements: "Besides, large orders will help the industry and have a positive impact on the economy as a whole." Who will pay for these orders? Either way, it's a waste of money. Or just print money? Well then, maybe it’s easier to produce equipment, and then immediately dispose of it? And you don’t need to take it anywhere, and everyone has orders, the economy is spinning, everyone is happy.
    1. +2
      12 October 2022 07: 44
      I support. The production of military equipment is always a loss. Because these products do not work for the economy and are a net loss for the state.
  3. +4
    12 October 2022 06: 33
    The military stocks of the West thawed.
    What about on the other side? I mean, with ours.
    Even if, purely theoretically, we take the consumption of our equipment and weapons three times less than Ukrainian, the numbers will still be significant.
    Newly formed from mobilized units and formations will also require their share of technology.
    So what models of equipment will we fight tomorrow?
    Old, taken from storage bases or conditionally new from the current regular Red Army?
    What are our stocks? Are you exhausted?
    Russia's industrial potential in the defense industry can hardly be recognized as equal to the potential of a united Europe. And then there is America and Canada.
    Therefore, a rather simple conclusion suggests itself: In the current conditions, we should by no means be drawn into a war of technologies and resources, into a war of attrition. Everything should be decided by generals and diplomats, but not by industrialists and oligarchs.
    Russia must achieve its goals within months, not years.
    Moreover, the CBO is counting the eighth month.
    We must hurry.
    1. +2
      12 October 2022 08: 29
      Quote: U-58

      Russia's industrial potential in the defense industry can hardly be recognized as equal to the potential of a united Europe. And then there is America and Canada.

      There is also Japan, South Korea, Australia, South Africa. Their combined potential exceeds ours by dozens (if not hundreds) of times. A long war is a priori losing, a long one is more than 2-3 months.
      By the way, 122-mm shells are supplied to Ukraine by Pakistan, a dozen planes have already arrived with them.
  4. 0
    12 October 2022 07: 03
    NATO does not supply its modern equipment for a banal reason, or rather two reasons.
    1. This is high cost, and unrealistic. 5-6-7 million dollars for a tank / infantry fighting vehicle, a consumable of war is prohibitive for active hostilities.
    2. Capacities for production. If you look at the news of arms deliveries, then the delivery dates for 100-200 infantry fighting vehicles / tanks are stretched for several years.

    And mobilization warehouses are mobilization warehouses.
    1. +1
      12 October 2022 08: 24
      The Rammstein countries are primarily rearming their armies. They consider not the cost of weapons that are transferred to Ukraine, but the price of those purchased in exchange. Therefore, such huge amounts of weapons are being supplied.
      Allegedly "expensive" equipment surpasses ours by 1-2 generations and is not a consumable. In general, the Armies of Ukraine and Russia remained in the 3rd generation (from the time of the Second World War), the leading countries of the world switched to the 5th generation of warfare.
    2. +2
      12 October 2022 19: 31
      1. The excalibur shells that were handed over to Ukraine are already an "outdated" generation of ammunition. Yes, they did not put new ones. But "outdated" precisely from the point of view of the United States, and not ours (I remind you that Krasnopol-D, which, it seems, can be guided by satellite and can somehow be considered an analogue of excalibur, has never been seen in our troops)
      2. BMPs can be produced (in addition to the USA and Great Britain) by almost all European countries, as well as South Korea, Australia, South Africa and obviously someone else. Do you think they can't get organized? I wouldn't hope
      It's better to be safe than sorry, and proceed from the fact that every month deliveries to Ukraine will increase.
  5. +6
    12 October 2022 08: 23
    NATO is certainly very grateful to the Kremlin. Then the local parliaments limited the military-industrial complex - all the weapons were from the 80-90s (Trump still swore about it)
    And now - new orders, new weapons, new money, new developments, new numbers ....
    As according to the old book about the Chekists: "for this they should erect a monument of gold in full growth"))))

    And that the weapon is "ending" - they have been writing for half a year, and still nothing. Apparently just PR for the erectorate ...
    1. -3
      12 October 2022 09: 45
      Quote: Max1995
      Then the local parliaments limited the military-industrial complex - all the weapons were from the 80-90s (Trump still swore about it)
      And now - new orders, new weapons, new money, new developments, new numbers ....


      Dreaming is not bad. New money? Turn on the printing press? NATO countries are already in debt, like in silks.
      So at whose expense is the banquet?
      Given the rise in prices for energy, metal, other raw materials, problems with logistics, trade wars with China ... all this is very doubtful.
      1. +2
        12 October 2022 19: 38
        There is a saying: "It is better to be overdressed than underdressed". The combined potential of NATO countries and others like them (and this is a plus: Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia, possibly South Africa). It exceeds the potential of Russia by an order of magnitude. And it's better for us to start from the premise that it's highly doubtful that they won't ramp up support.
  6. +3
    12 October 2022 08: 57
    NATO and Ukraine: military aid and depletion
    . So the depletion of stocks occurs for EVERYONE !!!
    Here are just foreign ones, much more, they have more resources ... let them play the game, "I'll give you what we don't like", but different things can happen ...
    And how are we ... and here, a military secret !!!
  7. -3
    12 October 2022 09: 38
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Basically understandable. England needs a naked Europe, without industry, resources and an army. She then organizes all this herself, on her own terms, including complete occupation.


    To begin with, the British should have reorganized the industry in their Britain, otherwise only horns and legs remained. The former "workshop of the world" fell low.
    The vaunted Jaguars and Austin Martins have been producing Hans for a long time.
  8. +1
    12 October 2022 19: 14
    They have a bet on aviation, and there they have a box full of good missiles and gliding bombs, and these are all high-precision weapons, although their advertising must be divided into two
    1. +3
      12 October 2022 19: 42
      Their bet is made on the interaction of various branches of the armed forces. When almost from the squad you can request help from the air or artillery. When a reconnaissance UAV in automatic mode can issue target designation for MLRS or artillery to strike at coordinates. Etc. Now they supply ammunition that was used in the 00s and 10s (the same excaliburs are already "obsolete" by US standards. The new ones hit > 50 km. And the "old stuff" can be delivered to Ukraine).
  9. +3
    12 October 2022 21: 03
    Depletion may be observed only in some categories: 155mm shells, ATGMs, MANPADS. The current war has a clear bias towards artillery, and NATO tactics are mainly tied to aviation, so the author’s assertion that supplies to Ukraine somehow undermine NATO’s defenses is a cruel stretch of an owl on the globe.
    And given that these same shells and missiles do not just disappear, but cause damage to the RF Armed Forces, it remains to be seen what will happen first: the thin one will die or the fat one will dry out.
  10. +1
    12 October 2022 23: 37
    Our opponents know how to work quickly and well. Better than ours. And no matter what the television general or the supreme ... commander-in-chief broadcasts to us from the screens, we will lose the war of attrition. I would even be more specific. We'll fuck up badly. Russia is not the Soviet Union, the industrial and scientific base is much weaker. And about hundreds of thousands runners and burrow and nothing to say.
  11. 0
    13 October 2022 00: 34
    In some ways, this article reminds me of Arestovich's joyful spells that after massive strikes on the infrastructure of Ukraine, Russia has fewer missiles, which means that there is no victory.
    Logic of the same order.
  12. -2
    13 October 2022 09: 12
    Quote from ZuekRek
    There is a saying: "It is better to be overdressed than underdressed". The combined potential of NATO countries and others like them (and this is a plus: Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia, possibly South Africa). Exceeds the potential of Russia by an order of magnitude



    All this is mythology. How do you measure potential? By what indicator? By GDP?
    Well, well ... very funny.
    Russia, unlike many, has its own energy resources, its own metal and much more. We are more independent economically, more hardy and unpretentious. So let's see who wins.
    And those who are ready to help us are also there. We are not completely alone. Our success is desirable for many who are fed up with American hegemony.
  13. 0
    14 October 2022 14: 39
    They have money to buy new ones, it’s another matter that all this costs us dearly, we were lucky that the USSR riveted a bunch of equipment, but we ourselves can’t really build anything new, another thing is that the Soviet stock is not unlimited