Ka-52M on trials and in combat

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Ka-52M on trials and in combat
Serial Ka-52 of one of the combat units


In August 2020, the upgraded Ka-52M attack helicopter made its first flight. Currently, state joint tests are being carried out, according to the results of which the machine will receive a recommendation for adoption. Against the backdrop of these events, there are reports of the plans of the Ministry of Defense, as well as unknown technical details of the project.



Latest news


The Ka-52M helicopter is still being tested, and the Ministry of Defense is already ordering such equipment. During the Army-2022 military-technical forum, the department placed several large orders for the production of modern and advanced aviation technology. One of them provides for the supply of new Ka-52M helicopters. The number of such equipment, its cost and timing of the appearance are not named.

On September 2, the TASS news agency disclosed interesting information about the ongoing tests received from its sources in the Ministry of Defense. After testing in the conditions of the test sites, it was decided to test the Ka-52M in the zone of the Special Operation. Helicopters of this type solved real combat missions in the conditions of a full-fledged conflict.

It is reported that such military tests were successful, and the helicopter showed its best side. At the same time, the customer proposed to finalize and improve some systems and components. Improvement recommendations have already been communicated to industry and will be implemented in the foreseeable future.


On September 14, TASS announced the imminent completion of the tests. An unnamed agency source in the defense industry claims that state joint testing of the Ka-52M will end in October. What will happen next, and when the next events will take place, is unknown.

The TASS source also spoke about the readiness of the industry to produce serial helicopters. Thus, the necessary capacities have been prepared at the Progress plant in Arseniev. He is ready to launch a series and supply the customer with the required amount of equipment.

TASS notes that official confirmations of the latest news missing. Nevertheless, the published news looks plausible and does not contradict the already known information about the Ka-52M. Accordingly, it can be expected that the state tests of this helicopter will indeed be completed in the near future and will launch the next stages and activities.

New opportunities


Also in recent days, curious information has been received about the new functions and capabilities of the upgraded Ka-52M. It became known about the measures aimed at increasing the situational awareness and safety of the crew - which will positively affect the overall combat effectiveness.


On September 14, the TASS agency spoke about the new capabilities of the helicopter in the context of group use. From a source in the industry, it became known that due to the new equipment, the Ka-52M will be able to interact with various combat units involved in the air part of the combat operation. It can be other helicopters, planes and UAVs. Such capabilities will be provided by satellite communications, as well as a new ground command post, which is currently under development.

The source drew attention to the possibility of joint operation of helicopters and UAVs. In this case, the drone will conduct reconnaissance at a distance from the Ka-52M and transmit the necessary information to it. The helicopter crew will be able to monitor the situation at a greater distance.

On September 19, a TASS source reported on measures aimed at increasing the survivability of the helicopter. Thus, the Ka-52M project provides for the use of new ballistic protection. With the help of modern materials, it was possible to obtain the necessary resistance without an unacceptable increase in the mass of the structure. In addition, it became possible to protect components and assemblies that did not previously have armor.

The Ka-52M also received an improved airborne defense system. Technical details were not released, but it is claimed that it will be able to protect the helicopter from the entire existing range of man-portable air defense systems.

The overall picture


In recent years, industry and the Ministry of Defense have regularly talked about the Ka-52M project and disclosed certain details of it. The next messages of this kind came just the other day and supplemented the already existing picture. All this allows us to imagine what kind of attack helicopter the armed forces will receive in the near future, and how it will differ from the existing vehicles.


Helicopters participating in the Special Operation

As reported, the airframe, power plant and part of the overall systems will remain the same. At the same time, the refinement of individual elements is envisaged. In particular, the armor protection of the crew and vital units is being improved. The flight performance of such an air platform, apparently, will remain at the same level.

The main improvements of the Ka-52M project affect the sighting and navigation system. It is planned to use a new radar station with AFAR, replace the optical-electronic station, upgrade weapon control devices, etc. Earlier it was reported about plans to integrate the helicopter PRNK with the military complex of intelligence, control and communications "Sagittarius". This will simplify and speed up the exchange of data with other branches of the military and improve interaction with them. As it has now become known, new means of communication will allow the helicopter to work together with UAVs and other combat units. Depending on the current need, the Ka-52M will be able to receive information about the situation and targets or transmit it to other helicopters or other consumers.

The weapons complex is undergoing a major upgrade, primarily its control devices. Measures have also been taken to improve the accuracy of the built-in gun mount. The ability to effectively use unguided rockets and bombs has been retained. It was reported about the preservation of the existing anti-tank missile systems "Shturm-VU" and "Whirlwind". The Ka-52M will also retain compatibility with the 305 guided missile, which is already actively used in combat situations. The introduction of a new Hermes aviation missile with increased range is expected.

Upgraded PrNK, communication facilities, etc. expand the ability to search for targets and increase the effectiveness of the use of "old" weapons. In addition, they will give the helicopter full compatibility with missiles or other systems of the new generation and will allow them to use all their capabilities.


The obvious result


In the past, the Ka-52 attack helicopter passed all the necessary tests, as a result of which it entered service. In the future, serial helicopters repeatedly participated in exercises, and then took part in the Syrian operation. Since February, such vehicles have been contributing to the forced demilitarization of Ukraine.

In all operations, the serial Ka-52 repeatedly confirmed the calculated performance characteristics and demonstrated the required combat capabilities. With the use of all compatible weapons, helicopters hit various targets, and also evaded enemy attacks and often saved their crews from various threats. In general, the serial combatant Ka-52 showed their best side.

The Ka-52M modernization project is aimed at maintaining the strengths of the existing helicopter while improving a number of characteristics and obtaining new capabilities. Experienced helicopters with similar improvements are already undergoing state tests and are reported to cope with all tests.

This means that in the very near future the updated Ka-52M will be able to enter service and go into production. And after that, re-equipping aviation units with new capabilities will only be a matter of time.
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  2. 0
    22 September 2022 06: 29
    The source drew attention to the possibility of joint operation of helicopters and UAVs. In this case, the drone will conduct reconnaissance at a distance from the Ka-52M and transmit the necessary information to it. The helicopter crew will be able to monitor the situation at a greater distance.


    It is not necessary to follow, but to give target designation and highlight targets. This is what is called collaboration.
    1. 0
      22 September 2022 10: 33
      The Ka-52M will also retain compatibility with the 305 guided missile, which is already actively used in combat situations. The introduction of a new Hermes aviation missile with increased range is expected.


      Isn't Hermes-A still being used from the Ka-52 during NWO?

      And the main carrier of the Hermes-A should be the Ka-52, and on the external sling this helicopter can carry up to 16 missile defense systems. In order for the rotorcraft to be able to hit targets with missiles of the complex, an optical-electronic system is installed on its board along with computers and automation associated with it. The cockpit is equipped with a manipulator (joystick type), a video viewing device (monitor with a color liquid crystal matrix) and a control panel (a device with buttons and its own LCD screen). The control equipment of the complex provides detection and recognition of targets in day and night conditions, automatic tracking, laser target illumination and missile guidance.


      An important feature of the rocket is the maximum firing range increased to 15 km, which seriously distinguishes it for the better from the “Attacks” (6 km) and “Whirlwind” (8 km) widely used in Syria. And this is while maintaining a high supersonic flight speed (acceleration to 1000 m / s).


      The total weight is 110 kg or more than doubles the corresponding figure for the widely used Ataka ATGM. The mass of the warhead is 30 kg, the type is “high-explosive fragmentation”, and the explosive is 12 ... 13 kg. “The missile carries a universal high-explosive fragmentation warhead of great strength,” the developer claims. Dive trajectories in the final area to hit the upper, least protected projection of the target such as "tank" or "fortified point".

      https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/201707231150-gsxf.htm
      1. +1
        22 September 2022 11: 42
        Isn't Hermes-A still being used from the Ka-52 during NWO?


        It is necessary that target designation and target illumination come from the UAV so as not to enter the affected area.
        1. 0
          29 November 2022 16: 19
          And in-flight refueling)) wassat Although if you think about it, many things that seemed fantastic to the point of delusion are now realized "in metal".
    2. +1
      23 September 2022 03: 22
      It is not necessary to follow, but to give target designation and highlight targets. This is what is called collaboration.
      But for the "305", oh, the reconnaissance drone is a very good help. I think it was created for this case. Do not shoot a rocket at random, where will God send? For visible purposes, there is a Whirlwind. And so from the drone I looked what and where "around the corner". And then, even from a closed position, you can bring a rocket there with handles. At the same time, for fans of action, you can also cut down a vidosik babaha. And then here many on this account are complex.
  3. 0
    22 September 2022 07: 39
    as well as a new ground command post, which is currently under development. - that means without it - when it appears - it’s as usual - year-10, It can be other helicopters, planes and UAVs. - especially UAVs of which once or twice
  4. +4
    22 September 2022 08: 08
    The news is good, but the author in his role is "a lot of letters", about the same it was possible in short, there are repetitions. Or are you paying for the number of characters?
    1. +3
      22 September 2022 08: 12
      You read, but it seems that you are watching the Zvezda TV channel with its boring presenter.
    2. +2
      23 September 2022 12: 04
      this is ryabov ... just letters without information.
  5. +2
    22 September 2022 09: 15
    By the way, he showed himself better than the mi-28, in my opinion
    1. +2
      22 September 2022 19: 12
      Well, actually, the Mi-28 was positioned as a ''Night hunter'' type and night vision devices and thermal imagers on it and .. something you don’t hear about the night terror of the Mi-28 over Ukraine .. everything that is available from the vidos is day work and then ..and we have a second day one .. and the Ka-52 CAN work at night too .. so your opinion that the Mi-28 is better is very controversial ..
      py.sy .. but in general, all of our front-line aviation (manned eats-t-but) showed itself in the NVO with unsuppressed air defense of ukrov .. well, don’t talk about sad, yeah
      1. +1
        23 September 2022 13: 54
        In general, I was just talking about ka 52. Mi 28 is worse
      2. +3
        24 September 2022 02: 41
        The Ka-52 is an exact copy of the Mi-28N in terms of the totality of its capabilities, only on a coaxial scheme. It doesn't have any additional options.
        Not everything is so simple with the Mi-28N, and I assure you, its limited use in Ukraine has nothing to do with its combat capabilities.
        And the use of the Ka-52 is also not inspiring, you know. Judging by the video, this is mainly the shooting of packs of NURS by area. For this, neither a radar nor other chips and buns of new shock machines are needed. The crews of the Mi-24 coped with this.
        1. 0
          25 September 2022 05: 22
          Judging by the video, this is your problem, our military is generally very modest in the video, so do not judge.
      3. 0
        24 September 2022 22: 30
        She shows herself perfectly, Kamovs are very difficult to bring down.
    2. 0
      1 October 2022 13: 04
      This is purely your opinion can be supported by anything. It's just that my opinion is that Ka will still be more efficient, at least due to the greater efficiency of the coaxial scheme and the greater security of the crew.
    3. 0
      3 November 2022 21: 34
      As I understand it, a couple works: Mi28 and Ka52 ... Mi28 is more far-sighted, if I may say so, and according to its target designation, Kamov delivers the main blow ...
      1. 0
        13 January 2023 10: 18
        that's not the point, the mi-28 is also a "rat", to put it mildly .. a parody of himself. After the performance of the first NIGHT HUNTERS (as cat food is called) in Syria, the entire rosvertol was dispersed. There are a lot of problems there. As I understand it, today, after a huge kick in the ass, something has changed, something has been completed. But he doesn’t care to crawl like cancer to the Ka-52 .. as to China. The 52nd had to take on the role of an attack aircraft, due to the lack of mi-28s. In general, both helicopters were badly damaged during the years of lawlessness. 52 is not bad, but it didn’t have a run-in, dear, by the time many nodes had become obsolete .. eh. In short, the army needs a new attack helicopter.
  6. +1
    22 September 2022 09: 27
    And will they bring the combatant Ka52 to "M"?
  7. 0
    22 September 2022 09: 46
    You can't see anything on the radar pictures above the bushing. Those. as of old, sticking out your nose to look around, and at the same time expose the whole body to a blow.
    1. +1
      22 September 2022 10: 54
      Quote: Nagan
      You can't see anything on the radar pictures above the bushing.
      On early models there were small radars above the hub, but on those helicopters that are at war, I did not notice such options.
    2. +2
      22 September 2022 11: 23
      Quote: Nagan
      You can't see anything on the radar pictures above the bushing.

      The Ka-50/52 has never had an over-hull radar and is not planning to.
      There is a crossbow radar in the nose.
      What @Bad_gr mistook for a radar is a "swashplate" element.
      1. +1
        22 September 2022 12: 08
        Quote from cold wind
        What @Bad_gr mistook for a radar is a "swashplate" element.

        1. +1
          22 September 2022 16: 07
          Quote from cold wind
          .... is an element of the "swashplate".

          There was information that this radar is only for all-round visibility, it is not intended for use with weapons.
    3. 0
      22 September 2022 14: 05
      Quote: Nagan
      You can't see anything on the radar pictures above the bushing. Those. as of old, sticking out your nose to look around, and at the same time expose the whole body to a blow.

      Operation has shown that over-hull radars are just an advertising feature - there is no use. There are more advanced reconnaissance means: optical and radar satellites, similar aircraft and UAVs.
      The helicopter itself also sees quite well and the radar above the hub cannot have higher performance due to the strict size limitation - everything is much better in the nose cone.
      1. +1
        22 September 2022 19: 14
        but the Americans with their Apache-long bow will not agree with you .. though Apache has a Hellfire with his concept, he fired and forgot, and for him over the sleeve radar is very very .. but in the Russian Aerospace Forces ALL ATGMs with PAGSN .. so they don’t need this feature .. yeah
        1. 0
          24 September 2022 04: 48
          there is exactly zero sense from him in the desert and steppe, the air defense will still work or the plane will be directed and the turntable will land, this is not a toy for mass use, but for limited actions
      2. +2
        22 September 2022 19: 24
        But what about the radar on the sleeve of the latest version of the Mi-28?
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      4. 0
        24 September 2022 03: 00
        To whom and where did you show it?
        In Russia, no one has ever had experience in operating an over-hull radar. And interestingly, how are you going to direct missiles? Visually? Or "shot and forgot" and hit or not - none of my business? :)
    4. 0
      24 September 2022 02: 44
      The Ka-52 does not have a radar above the hub. Having abandoned the rotary artillery turret, the Kamovites received a place in the nose to accommodate the radar. At Phazotron, they made such a radar based on the Migovsky one.
      There is only one over-sleeve antenna in Russia. And it was created for the Mi-28M. And the pics are kind of crazy.
  8. 0
    22 September 2022 12: 35
    In the USSR, military tests were carried out for a year on the basis of at least one air regiment (about 64 helicopters, 45 front-line aviation aircraft). And even then it was problematic to collect the necessary statistics.
    1. -1
      22 September 2022 14: 35
      In the USSR, military tests were carried out for a year on the basis of at least one air regiment (about 64 helicopters, 45 front-line aviation aircraft). And even then it was problematic to collect the necessary statistics.

      There are no helicopters for two regiments in the entire Russian army.
  9. 0
    22 September 2022 16: 01
    In short, the Ka-52 has become the main attack helicopter of Russia .....
    1. +1
      24 September 2022 02: 49
      No, it didn't. Although great efforts have been made to convince the layman that this happened. In fact, this car is still not really done. For example, it is still not capable of using missile weapons using radar.
  10. 0
    22 September 2022 16: 57
    Everything is as usual in the future tense and with reservations. With lmur it is not clear, Hermes is not yet. In short, we are far behind Apache.
    1. -1
      24 September 2022 02: 58
      There is LMUR, everything is clear with him. It is in service with the Mi-28M and the upgraded Mi-28N. If you strain the 5th point and look, you can even find a video of its application.
      Hermes most likely will not be, this project is outdated and has not reached the stage of industrial production.
      Nobody is far behind Apache. Already. It’s just that no one has ever bothered to do it like the shtatovites. They have their designs, ours have theirs. The Mi-28M is ready for the series, it has new weapons and a completely new avionics system. It will take 5-7 years and, I think, Kamov's cars will also receive such weapons.
      1. +3
        24 September 2022 11: 24
        It is commendable that you, straining your fifth point, are trying to portray that everything is fine with us. The main thing is not to tear it. But you better not be rude. This is in 1. In 2, experimental tests and supply contracts in the deep future, this is not the same thing that should already be in service in the proper quantity. And this applies to everything, and the turntables themselves and weapons to them. It was not about doing like the United States, it was about the result in the right place at the right time. And the result is still far from in our favor, unfortunately. It's at 3. And the last one. The potential enemy never waited for us and never will. Therefore, already yesterday, we do not have 5-7 years, we do not have any years at all to eliminate our backlog.
        1. 0
          17 October 2022 12: 04
          Quote from shurshun
          It was not about doing like the United States, it was about the result in the right place at the right time. And the result is still far from in our favor, unfortunately. It's at 3. And the last one. The potential enemy never waited for us and never will. Therefore, already yesterday, we do not have 5-7 years, we do not have any years at all to eliminate our backlog.


          What backlog are you talking about? No "fire and forget"? So I repeat again and again, we have always had a different concept, namely "shot-hit". And you can shoot and forget from anything, even from a slingshot.
          You need to look not at a fashionable hyped model for astronomical money, but at combat effectiveness. And in this parameter, domestic attack missile systems for helicopters are not inferior to US ones. Yes, not such a trendy concept. But effective. And with the concept of "product 305" we went ahead altogether.
          What about time? Yes, we have lost time. And back in the 80s. When the Kamov lobby slowed down the competition for an attack helicopter, pushing through its slanderous concept of a single-seat Ka-50. I agree with you, we are behind the USA. According to the developers, if it were not for the mess that the Kamov lobby made in the 70-80s, the Mi-28 would have gone into production even "before the hunchback" and now it would have been removed from service. Thermal imaging guidance and detection is already outdated. An attack helicopter needs a radar. But not the radar itself, for some reason, there, like the Ka-52. We need a radar as the basis of the sighting and navigation system, integrated into the weapon system. What is now on the Mi-28M. And something that the Kamovites can’t do at all, even though their radar is much “older” than the Milevsky over-huller.
          But again, instead of making a fundamental decision to launch the Mi-28M series, we continue to play the "unsurpassed and unique Ka-52", to the point that even in the conditions of hostilities, obstacles are placed for the use of Mil machines.
          Just don't get me wrong, I'm all for the development of the coaxial scheme and the Kamov Design Bureau. I clearly understand that the technical solution of the Kamov attack helicopter has not only disadvantages, but also clear advantages. But it is quite obvious that the design bureau itself, which has no experience in developing attack helicopters, and indeed helicopters for the ground forces, cannot lead the topic. So why not reformat the project? Well, someone wants a coaxial drummer. God bless him. HE is really good. So create a SINGLE complex of helicopter weapons, unify the requirements for PNK, so that new missile weapons are installed on both platforms SIMULTANEOUSLY. And not according to the principle, "when and if there will be money left from the next" revolutionary "modernization of the KA-52."
          No, damn it! We will drag "Whirlwind" and "Hermes" on Kamovtsy, and we will stick Sturm somehow on the left :) But we will show new items, like "305" only on Ka-52, even with adhesive tape and wire, but we will fasten it. Instead of taking a sober look at the car and giving it a real development, we are promoting what we have, even if it flies and shoots with NURSs.

          Well, sorry for being rude. Didn't mean to offend. It just gets carried away sometimes.
  11. +1
    22 September 2022 19: 40
    It is not clear that the Hermes-A, X-MD-E missiles being developed are the same or are they all different.? Hermes is not clear. Either they declare its range of 100 km, then recently 30 km and even 15 km like the product 305.
  12. -2
    22 September 2022 20: 28
    The era of helicopters has passed, the era of MANPADS has come, and robots
  13. +2
    22 September 2022 22: 15
    As if he looked at the "military acceptance", and that only a helicopter can do it, and everything is in interaction, and with participation, and under the leadership. But as shown by the NWO, there is no one and nothing to "connect" with, because there is nothing, the connection is ordinary and that one is not sensible and stable. As a result, NURSs are fired from behind the fence and home. These are the realities. And judging by the dynamics of changes in the leadership of the operation, no changes are expected.
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 02: 51
      Foreseen. But not on this car. The paradox is that our PR and reality in this case diverged diametrically.
  14. -2
    22 September 2022 22: 19
    Another fairy tale about collaboration and information exchange. how many of these we read before the special operation
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    1. +2
      23 September 2022 12: 46
      Who said where he landed? How many alligators ate VSUshnikov?
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    1. 0
      24 September 2022 02: 53
      This is war. Losses are inevitable. War machines are being destroyed. The only question is how much damage the machine inflicted on the enemy from the moment it was used until the moment it died.
  17. 0
    24 September 2022 08: 22
    Quote: abc_alex
    This is war. Losses are inevitable. War machines are being destroyed. The only question is how much damage the machine inflicted on the enemy from the moment it was used until the moment it died.


    so all the same war, and not a "special military operation"?
    count more dead pilots - each of which cost like a helicopter - not to mention that these are people and not iron
    1. 0
      24 September 2022 21: 37
      If a combat helicopter is primarily intended for assault operations and at the same time has a coaxial scheme, then it would be logical to minimize the area of ​​its frontal projection and protect the crew as much as possible, for this you need to move the crew from the nose of the helicopter back, behind the gearbox, (naturally, with such a scheme, control helicopter will only be possible with the help of cameras and monitors), install a cannon on the freed up space as close as possible to the center of gravity of the helicopter, only in this way it will more or less accurately shoot bursts. The attack tactics of such a helicopter could look like this: the helicopter approaches the target in a straight line and fires from a cannon, then without a turn (because it is coaxial), it moves away from the target in a straight line, thereby reducing the time spent in the attack area.
  18. 0
    2 October 2022 23: 00
    The fact that the project is being developed is +. The fact that, as always, they will make a few pieces per country is a harbinger of tragedy, I'm glad if I'm wrong. In reality, it’s not necessary to build up armor, it’s not bad, it’s just that the helicopter was not created to collect bullets from the DShK - yes, I understand that they are shooting at it, but you need smart weapons = fired and forgot and at a distance of over 12 km. Helmet-mounted target designation systems with a "transparent cockpit" + a system for intelligence exchange. What is unification with the ammunition in service is +.