"Hotchkiss" - another machine gun, which was enough for two wars

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"Hotchkiss" - another machine gun, which was enough for two wars
Frame from the film "Golden Bullet". The Kid and Chuncho shoot Carranza's soldiers with a Hotchkiss machine gun. The film even shows that Chuncho lubricates the first cassette with cartridges with oil before inserting it into the machine gun. And - yes, it had to be done so that the machine gun did not jam!


“The officer in charge of firing asked us to shoot at a model artillery battery from a distance of 12 hundred meters. At first I couldn't make out the target at all, and the officer told me that the target was a blue stripe that I could barely make out in the distance. The sight of the gun was set up to a distance of one thousand yards, and so I readjusted it to the intended range. I told Mr. Vickers that if we fired all 333 rounds at once, we might not hit the target at all: the bullets might not reach the target or overshoot it. The officer wanted to see how many hits we could make in one minute. We were provided with a special carriage equipped with horizontal limiters for the machine gun, and I adjusted them so that the gun would capture the length of the target, which was supposed to be two or three hundred feet, and, having loaded the belt with 333 rounds, I aimed the machine gun at point, as it seemed to me, just above the target, and fired about a hundred shots, turning the gun slowly from left to right. I then re-aimed the gun at a new point, and this time fired over a hundred shots, again turning the gun as I fired; and again I changed the aim, aiming at a point that I thought was too low, and fired the remaining rounds ... All this was done in less than a minute. After about twenty minutes of waiting, the phone rang and we were told that we had conditionally killed three-quarters of the people and horses. I asked for Mr. Vickers's opinion: did they not expect that all targets would be hit; he replied that he did not know this, but soon the officer in charge of the tests approached us, who enthusiastically said: “There has not yet been in the world weaponswhich could kill so many people and horses in such a short time! And we got the order."
Hiram Maxim

Weapon stories. Last time, our story was dedicated to the French Saint-Etienne machine gun of 1907. Today we continue the “machine gun theme” and get acquainted with its more successful competitor - the Hotchkiss machine gun. Well, let's start, perhaps, with a reminder that Captain Odkolek with his machine gun found himself in a situation that the inventor does not always have to face. That is, he quite unconsciously ended up exactly there and exactly when there was a demand for exactly the type of weapon that he brought with him.




Vincent Benet behind the first machine gun in 1895 on a wheeled carriage and without the characteristic radiator on the barrel

The Hotchkiss company refused to produce the Odkolek machine gun on a royalty basis, but offered to immediately buy a patent in order to use the very idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbsuch a weapon, and not just use it, but monopolize it for some time. The inventor agreed to this, accepting a one-time payment for the transfer of all rights to his development to the company.

The result of the work of the company's engineers was a machine gun that fired 8 mm Lebel rifle cartridges, which used a gas engine with a reciprocating piston movement instead of a swinging lever, as in a Colt-Browning machine gun.


Scheme of the machine gun "Hotchkiss" M1897 Pay attention to the thoughtfulness of the design: the return spring is as far away from the heat sources as possible!

The first machine gun was tested at the factory in Saint-Denis by Vincent Benet already in 1895. And although its technical characteristics were even better than expected, the heavy barrel tended to overheat, as a result of which, even after a small number of shots, all the rifling in the barrel was erased.


The machine gun of the 1914 model even had an optical sight. View from the left. Royal Arsenal, Leeds


The same gun. Right side view

Benet's lively mind quickly found a solution to this problem. He realized that it took a lot of metal at the breech to absorb the most heat exactly where it was generated the most. But instead of making cooling ribs on the barrel itself (which, no doubt, would increase its weight), he put brass rings on it at critical heating points. They added a little weight, but they gave more than ten times the radiant surface for air cooling. This radiator has become a kind of hallmark of this machine gun, noticeable even at a great distance.


1917 machine gun of the year, which entered service with the US Army. Photo forgottenweapons.com

The result was a reliable, efficient machine gun that did not require water for cooling, with a variable rate of fire from 100 to 500-600 rounds per minute.


This photo clearly shows that the Hotchkiss box is much smaller than that of the Saint-Etienne machine gun, and therefore requires less metal and weighs much less. There are fewer brass parts in the machine gun: only the cartridge cartridge receiver and the pistol grip. And what a powerful reload handle he has! Of course, it was convenient to use this. Photo forgottenweapons.com

The design of the machine gun consisted of only 38 parts, not counting sights, and the connection of parts with screws was not provided. With the exception of the barrel and vent tube, the machine gun could be completely disassembled and reassembled without tools, a special wrench was needed only for these two parts.


Here are all the parts that the machine gun was disassembled into, and without any tool whatsoever: it was enough to pull out from under the receiver on the right that small part that looked like a rifle bolt, which in this photo lies under the return spring. Photo forgottenweapons.com

The mechanism of action was the simplest and is known to everyone today: when fired, as soon as the bullet passes the hole in the lower part of the barrel, the powder gases enter the gas outlet tube and throw the long piston back. When the piston rolls back a predetermined distance, the exhaust port opens to allow the gases to escape, and the piston is held in the rear position by a sear. When it is released, the piston is thrown forward by the mainspring to its original position. The piston engages with a bolt that is somewhat similar to the bolt of a Lee rifle. In a word, it performs the function of a soldier's hand when working with a direct-motion bolt on a rifle. By the way, the shutter does not rotate and at the moment of the shot it does not engage with the breech, but only rests on the bottom of the cartridge case. But ... she is not able to move it back, because in the back of the piston there is an L-shaped protrusion that abuts against the moving part of the shutter. It was the skew of the rear of the bolt that locked this machine gun.


Cartridge cartridge in the receiver. The lever at the bottom disengaged the ratchet lock, and the cassette drive gears rotated freely. Photo forgottenweapons.com

The machine gun was powered from fairly rigid metal clips for 30 rounds. The feed mechanism consists of a spur gear engaged with cams cut in the piston and holes made in the cage. The clips are designed in such a way that they can interlock with each other, so you can fire without having to manually cock the hammer each time you fire another clip.


The sights on the machine gun were different. Including from the Saint-Etienne machine gun. But the model for the US Army, of which it received about 7000, had the simplest rifle-type sight. Photo forgottenweapons.com

A shoulder pad or butt is attached to the breech, which the operator brings to the right shoulder, and the sear is controlled by a trigger mounted in the pistol grip. Thus, aiming and shooting is done with the same ease as when firing a rifle from a rest.


Flame arrester of the simplest type. In order to remove or put it, a special key was required. Photo forgottenweapons.com

Interestingly, the US Navy tested the original Hotchkiss machine gun before it was assigned any model number. This test took place on January 3, 1896, when it failed due to improper heat treatment of the components and poor choice of metals in the construction. At the suggestion of the Navy, Hotchkiss hired Edward G. Parkhurst of Hartford, Connecticut to correct the deficiencies for re-testing. And Parkhurst, who had previously been improving the Gardner light machine gun, proposed changes in the design and presented them to the company, which not only took advantage of them, but also thanked him through the Navy Department.

The machine gun thus improved became known as the Model 1897, which became the base gun from then on, but continued to be improved in subsequent years.

The cartridge-feeding wheel is rotated by the action of the large piston feed cam on the working ledge on the wheel ratchet mechanism. The presence of a ratchet prevents the clip from rebounding, that is, it can only move forward. As the bolt locks the cartridge in the chamber, the ejector moves past the welt of the cartridge and, after the cartridge has been fired, ejects the empty case as it retracts.


The gas regulator made it possible to reduce the gas supply opening and thus regulate the operation of the automation. The gas outlet assembly itself was also unscrewed from the gas outlet tube with a special key. For this, two flat chamfers were provided on it. Photo forgottenweapons.com

I must say that the French military reacted to the new machine gun with great interest and approval, primarily because just at that time they were conducting colonial wars in Africa, and not just in Africa, but in desert areas where cooling machine guns with water would be very serious problem. This is how a modified model appeared (brass ribs on the barrel were replaced with steel ones!) of the 1900 model, which the Americans also tested in their walls of the Springfield Arsenal. Another improvement was the barrel, which was made of steel with a carbon content of only 0,02%, but with the addition of 5% nickel, which, according to its creators, should have increased its resistance to heat.

The tests began at 10:47, and in four minutes and 10 seconds 1376 rounds were fired. Here the mechanism jammed, but at 10:56 the shooting was resumed. Observer officers noted that after 2 minutes and 20 seconds of continuous firing, the barrel turned dull red, and at the end of the 4-minute and 10-second burst, it turned bright red from the radial cooling fins to the muzzle. Then another 848 shots were fired. At the same time, the trunk again became a bright red color. In total, 6 shots were fired in 8 minutes and 2224 seconds of the actual firing time.

After firing, it turned out that all the oil in the front of the receiver burned out, and erosion of the rifling took place in the barrel closer to the breech.


Machine gun model 1903. First Tape-Fed Hotchkiss

After lunch, firing resumed at 14:29, with 773 rounds fired. Then the lug on the gas piston broke and had to be replaced. The elapsed time was 2 minutes 5 seconds. The broken piston was replaced with a new one and firing resumed. The first cartridge jammed the feed mechanism. When this malfunction was also eliminated, the tests continued. After 750 shots were fired a second time, the extractor was unable to pull the empty cartridge case out of the chamber. When the cartridge case was removed and firing resumed, it turned out that the extractor was out of order, and it was replaced with a new one.

The remaining ammunition (816 rounds in total) was fired without incident, resulting in a total consumption of 4500 rounds. The machine gun was dismantled, and it turned out that he finished the tests in good condition. The trunk was ordered to be cut in half. It was found that the rifling was practically worn from the breech to the muzzle. The sawn off part of the trunk was photographed as a keepsake.


That's how this machine gun was fired. With the left hand they aimed at the target, holding it by the handle on the box, and with the right hand they held the pistol grip. Photo forgottenweapons.com

The conclusion drawn by the Americans from these tests was as follows:

“The system for feeding cartridges into a machine gun using metal clips has not proven to be as satisfactory as feeding with canvas tape, but the advantages of having an additional source of supply in case of an emergency ... justify the use of this machine gun in addition to the Maxim and Colt already reported that they are suitable for adoption."

Approving the report, Lieutenant Colonel Frank H. Phipps, head of the Springfield Arsenal, added:

“These tests seem to conclusively show that a high percentage of carbon in barrel steel reduces the effective life of the barrel. ... The rate of fire in this test significantly exceeded that which could take place in a combat situation; strong heat generation caused the rifling to wear out before 4500 rounds were completed. ... The desirability of water cooling for automatic weapons can be considered proven.


"Hotchkiss", and with an apron on the barrel, in service with the Wehrmacht in 1941

And then there was the Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905) - the first conflict between major powers, in which each of the participants used machine guns. We had Maxims, and the Japanese had Hotchkiss. Both armies repeatedly demonstrated the deadly power of machine-gun fire, but they did not decide which machine gun was better, but remained unconvinced. Russia continued to operate the Maxim, and the Japanese, based on the French machine gun, created their own, which differed little from the original sample. Moreover, the French "Hotchkiss" after that fought during the First World War (including in the US Army, and 45 of them were produced!), And in Spain, and continued to be used during the Second World War! Interestingly, the Germans also used it very actively, including on the Soviet-German front. Yes, and no wonder, because they got all the French machine guns, and Polish (under the Mauser cartridge), and even ... Greek!
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  1. +14
    23 September 2022 07: 01
    And then there was the Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905) - the first conflict between major powers, in which each of the participants used machine guns
    .Japanese machine gun type Ho caliber 6,5mm.
    In Japanese reference literature, the first machine guns based on the Hotchkiss ET CIE Mle 1897 design are referred to as the "Hoshiki" type, regardless of the caliber (8mm French or 6,5mm Japanese). But at the same time, type 97 (8mm), type 35 (6,5mm cartridge type 30) and type 38 (6,5mm cartridge type 38) differ in years of adoption. Type 35 equipped with a tripod machine in the acceptance documents of the imperial army station of the artillery service appear under the designation model "Showa shiki" type "Hoshiki".
    This modification of the Ho type machine gun was ordered by the army in order to unify the used ammunition chambered for 6,5x50SR type 30 (with a blunt bullet). Production started at the Tokyo Army Artillery Arsenal in 1899 was only able to produce first production from 1903 on a relatively small scale.
    Archival records of lots of machine guns and equipment accepted and transferred to the army during the Russo-Japanese War have been preserved.
    On August 27, 1904, the Chief of the General Staff, Yamagata Aritomo, submitted a report addressed to the Minister of the Army Masatake Terauchi on the delivery to the 3rd Army of machine guns of the Showa Shiki model of the Ho Shiki type in the amount of 60 units, 60 devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges , cartridges in the amount of 900000 (of which 270000 are equipped in cassettes of 30 rounds). Estimated quantity for each machine gun is 15000 rounds. Of the 60 machine guns ordered, 40 pieces were received.
    In October 1904 (1904) directly at the plant, the United Army ordered 6 machine guns of the "Hoshiki" type, cartridges in the amount of 90000, of which 9000 cartridges were loaded into cassettes. As well as 3 sets of devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges.
    On November 4, 1904, the army of the General Staff of the stationed Manchuria received 48 units of machine guns of the Showa Shiki model of the Ho Shiki type, 42 units equipped with Gate stationary machines, cartridges for 1350,000 rounds (of which 427000 were equipped in cassettes). In addition, 45 sets of devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges. These cannons had a policy assigned to each respective army. On November 16, 1904, 30 units of machine guns of the Ho Shiki type equipped with stationary Gate machines were allocated to the 3rd Army, and 12 machine guns were transferred to the 2nd Army.
    On February 12, 1905, 12 machine guns of the Ho Shiki type equipped with tripod machines, cartridges in the amount of 180000 pieces, cassettes 2,400 pieces, 12 sets of devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges were delivered for the second division of Kobe on February XNUMX, XNUMX.
    On March 5, 1905, ordered by the General Staff in Manchuria, 50 machine guns of the Ho Shiki type on a machine, 15000 cassettes, 50 sets of devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges, 750000 cartridges, a portable tool in the form of 9 sets for weapons workshops. Subsequently, 30 machine guns were placed at the disposal of the 2nd Army, and 20 were supplied to the Liaodong Defense Forces.
    In April 1905, the plant put at the disposal of the headquarters of the fortress of Penghu Island 14 units of machine guns model "Showa Shiki" type "Ho Shiki", 280000 cartridges, cartridges of 2,800 pieces, 7 sets of devices for editing cartridges and equipping them with cartridges.
    In June 1905, the Tokyo Artillery Arsenal received an order for 28 machine guns of the Ho Shiki type on the machine, as well as 13 equipped with stationary Gate machines, cartridges 62,400 units, 2080 cassettes, 4 sets of devices for editing cassettes and equipping them with cartridges, and there were instructed to send the portable tool in the form of 2 sets to the weapons workshops of the Dalian branch.
    The Japanese modification of the Mle 1897 type "Ho Shiki" chambered for 6,5mm was supplied with cassettes for 30 rounds (weighing 890 g in the equipped state) packed in a separate cardboard package, 14 pieces of such cardboard cases were placed in a wooden cartridge box (for a total of 420 rounds) portable a carrier of ammunition for a machine gun calculation. The second number of the calculation was trained to quickly change the empty clip. The method of linking several cassettes together was rarely used and only at stationary positions, with a fixed position of the machine in order to avoid distortion of the cassettes when feeding.
    Japanese machine gunners received special training in machine gun maintenance and troubleshooting. Despite the apparent simplicity of this machine gun, setting the gas regulator depending on humidity and temperature, the degree of contamination required special attention from the servants. An overtightened regulator could cause insufficient recoil of the bolt frame and underfilling of a cartridge, a too loose regulator caused too much withdrawal of the bolt frame and bolt with deformation of the metal cassette. The cassettes were considered for reuse after straightening with a special crank device, and subsequent equipment with a charging machine, according to the instructions, the cassette was held 7-8 times.
    Several types of oils were used to maintain and care for the machine gun mechanisms: cleaning oil, anti-corrosion machine oil, a thick composition based on Kawagu whale oil, and Katabo Kosuabura liquid composition for lubricating the axles. Wiping dry from oil was prohibited, cleaning of parts contaminated with soot or rust was allowed only with a soft-bristled brush or softwood sticks. Self-disassembly by privates without the supervision of an officer and storage in disassembled form was strictly prohibited.
    The Japanese machine gun, outwardly very similar to the French prototype, has one important visual difference - a radiator of seven ribs instead of five on the French Mle 1897.

    TTX machine gun "type 35" or type "Ho Shiki": caliber 6,5x50SR type 30, metal cassette for 30 rounds, total length 1300 mm, barrel length 780 mm, rate of fire 450 rounds per minute, weight with machine 50 kg., the sight is graduated up to 2000 meters, the maximum firing range is up to 4000 meters.

    1. +5
      23 September 2022 07: 06
      Thank you! A very good addition. In fact, exhaustive questions on the "Japanese".
    2. +6
      23 September 2022 09: 20
      Then the Japanese until 1945 practiced improving the design "a la Hotchkiss".
  2. +1
    23 September 2022 07: 16
    Good article, thanks to the author. The "objectiveness" of ordinary army tests is well shown) The Hotchkim machine gun proved to be better in almost everything than the Maxim machine gun. I didn’t need a water casing (the opinion of the tester on this matter is especially funny) So - the machine gun is lighter than Maxim, significantly, and it doesn’t need water, and is much more maintainable ... But contracts with Maxim have already been concluded, bribes have been received and mastered, so "may be used in addition."
    Longing is sadness. The price of greedy-bribe decisions on non-objectively conducted tests is thousands and thousands of human lives. Your soldiers. Your compatriots. But none of the senior officers conducting the tests are disturbed by these considerations. Here is the money in your pocket - that yes! And women still give birth to soldiers ...
    1. +5
      23 September 2022 13: 04
      Quote: Mikhail3
      The Hotchkim machine gun proved to be better in almost everything than the Maxim machine gun

      On French trials. The Franks accepted him into service. By the way, it is very possible that for the very reasons that you so colorfully described :)))
      1. +2
        23 September 2022 16: 21
        Didn't the French themselves "turn up their noses" from the "Hotchkiss" and for the first two years of the Great War these machine guns were not the main ranks of the French army?
        1. +2
          23 September 2022 17: 39
          Quote: hohol95
          Didn't the French themselves "turn up their noses" from the "Hotchkiss" and for the first two years of the Great War these machine guns were not the main ranks of the French army?

          This is a common problem with good things, good work, very good quality. Those who give a truly serious result want to get a decent price for it! And this is absolutely not the real goal of all competitions, selections, and other various commission work.
          The product must somehow fulfill certain conditions so that it can be presented without a very cruel disgrace. Everything else is compensated by bribes distributed within the commissions. Part of the bribes then goes "higher" and cheers! Adopted for service "the latest, advanced, unparalleled sample in the world"!
          The bribes are being digested, the koekakers are getting rich, everyone is happy... the soldiers are dying there... but who cares about them?! Did you take bribes? The "newest unparalleled" ugly shit suddenly shows up shortcomings. Suddenly! What is bad then? After all, a new competition is being held, bribes are being taken again, euphoria turns into orgasm ... And then these. With your perfect example.
          They don't give bribes, they poke results, they demand! Scoundrels...
          1. 0
            23 September 2022 18: 35
            Do you think that was the case for all participants in the First World War?
            Or, did someone "think" about their zoldatens?
            1. +2
              23 September 2022 19: 23
              Absolutely everyone. It is possible that the Germans held back a little, and therefore fought better than everyone. When the industrial revolution happened, the whole system of human interaction changed, the whole world changed. But no one understood this.
              Industry allows for the theft of colossal sums. But the consequences of this each time are hundreds of thousands of deaths. And the authorities habitually stole as if it were a contract of a craftsman for a hundred spearheads. That's why Marx and Engels made a mess, helplessly watching how the world is rolling ... well, where it almost went, if it didn't happen on the horizon of the USSR. However, that's a completely different story.)
              1. +2
                23 September 2022 19: 32
                Someone "saving" on the length of brass nails and the ship's bottom sheathing sheets fell off when the ship was still on the stocks ...
                Someone first adopted a German howitzer for their army, but after "a shout from Paris, where it's nice to live," they adopted a French one (which lost to the German one).
                Some considered the red trousers of their soldiers as a sign of the greatness of the "white master", and the common soldier's kitchen as a "violation of democratic freedoms" ...
                Others were not satisfied with the "increased speed" of the consumption of ammunition for new weapons.
                And so on ...
              2. 0
                23 September 2022 20: 20
                Worst of all had the Canadian infantry.
                Their rifles from Mr. Ros turned out to be probably one of the worst (if not the worst) on the Western Front.
                1. 0
                  24 September 2022 09: 04
                  Worst of all had the Russian soldiers, who had nothing to shoot with. Because all cartridge factories and shell factories turned out to be the property of the Germans, and the Germans closed and rendered their enterprises unusable and left. In peacetime, the arsenals were replenished very sparingly, because "the bullet is a fool, the bayonet is well done." There were only shells for three-inch guns, which practically did no damage to anyone or anything ...
                  1. 0
                    24 September 2022 09: 19
                    An openly located enemy with shrapnel shells is the sweetest thing to throw! The OFS didn’t even mention those ... That's right!
                    And about "cartridge sabotage" where does the "wind blow" from?
                    1. 0
                      24 September 2022 13: 13
                      I don’t remember already) Star became, his head was heavily littered. But if you give yourself the trouble to check, everything will be confirmed)
        2. +2
          23 September 2022 20: 11
          The Franks, as it were, didn’t turn up their faces from Shosh, although, it seems, no one considered this design successful.
          By the way, we like to criticize RI for its addiction to everything French, but in this case they just preferred British products, although at that time relations with Foggy Albion can hardly be called good. So it's definitely not about corruption schemes
          1. 0
            23 September 2022 20: 32
            "Vickers" could "interest" the right people, and also sai Odkolek, being in Russia for 3 years, did not create anything worthwhile and left having earned a good capital.
            The "Gallams" had no luck with small arms, but they were lucky with food rations. The Teutons are the opposite...
    2. 0
      23 September 2022 13: 36
      Quote: Mikhail3
      The Hotchkim machine gun proved to be better in almost everything than the Maxim machine gun.
      I was also surprised: everywhere I read about Hotchkiss, it was said that he was worse than Maxim, and his use was a blessing. And here's how it turns out...
  3. +4
    23 September 2022 07: 32
    "The film even shows that the first cassette with Chuncho's cartridges, before being inserted into the machine gun, generously lubricates with oil. And - yes, it had to be done so that the machine gun would not jam!"
    Did the machine guns come with a supply of oil? How were the clips lubricated - poured from an oil can, wiped with oiled rags, or dipped in a bucket of oil?
    1. +6
      23 September 2022 07: 47
      They poured water from an oil can and inserted it ... It is difficult to carry a bucket of oil. And a supply of oil was attached to all machine guns. And in the machine guns of Salvator-Dormus and Schwarzlose, at first they poured oil into a special container ... And it fell in drops on each cartridge!
      1. +2
        23 September 2022 08: 01
        Hello, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
        Why only the first one?
        1. +3
          23 September 2022 08: 24
          Good morning Anton! Well, first according to the instructions, and then as needed!
          1. +2
            23 September 2022 08: 31
            What are the eligibility criteria? Shooter's personal experience?
            1. +6
              23 September 2022 09: 50
              What are the eligibility criteria? Shooter's personal experience?

              If I'm not mistaken, in the Fedorov assault rifle, it was also necessary to lubricate the upper magazine cartridges from above before inserting it into the receiver.
              1. +3
                23 September 2022 10: 07
                You know, some mammals lick newborn babies so they don't accidentally eat them.
                Shitty analogy? Well, what is.
                1. +3
                  23 September 2022 11: 40
                  Shitty analogy? Well, what is.

                  Yes, badass.
      2. +3
        23 September 2022 08: 10
        So in the "Hotchkiss" an oil dish, as in the Austrian, Italian and Japanese machine guns, is not provided?
        And the calculation of the machine gun each clip was forced to lubricate by pouring from an oil can!
        And sand, earth, dust...
        A chic machine gun, but consuming a lot of oil and requiring highly skilled maintenance!
        And devouring tons of metal in the form of cartridge clips.
        1. +4
          23 September 2022 08: 26
          Quote: hohol95
          So in the "Hotchkiss" an oil dish, as in the Austrian, Italian and Japanese machine guns, is not provided?
          And the calculation of the machine gun each clip was forced to lubricate by pouring from an oil can!
          And sand, earth, dust...
          A chic machine gun, but consuming a lot of oil and requiring highly skilled maintenance!
          And devouring tons of metal in the form of cartridge clips.

          Cassettes in boxes. Rated for multiple cycles. Boxes can be closed from dirt and sand. Oil ... well, pour it and that's it!
          1. +5
            23 September 2022 08: 40
            Cassette from 7 to 8 reloads.
            With collection and no damage!
            It is not difficult for a static position, but with a frequent change of position and under enemy fire, it seems that it was difficult.
            And the oil still needs to be produced in the right volumes!
            Or could a simple "spindle" be lubricated?
            Like American anti-aircraft guns protecting Murmansk. The American grease froze and the aiming drives had to be lubricated with liquid oil with the obligatory scrolling of the mechanisms every 30 minutes.
        2. +5
          23 September 2022 09: 30
          A chic machine gun, but consuming a lot of oil and requiring highly skilled maintenance!
          It's like that joke.
          "I'll give home Carlson in good hands. Kind, affectionate little rascal, accustomed to the tray. He doesn't fly, but he eats jam ... !!!"
          1. +5
            23 September 2022 09: 46
            I can hardly imagine this machine gun in the ranks of the Russian Imperial Army ...
            If the Japanese soldiers were forbidden to carry out routine work without the supervision of an officer.
            How about repairs?
            That way, all technically literate officers would be recorded as machine gunners ...
            1. +3
              23 September 2022 09: 56
              By the end of the war, it is quite possible to imagine. "Knights" officers, who liked to show off on the parapet with a cigarette, were shot by German snipers at the beginning of the massacre.
              1. +3
                23 September 2022 10: 12
                In addition to snipers, there were also Teutonic MG08s, which were attacked in thick chains with officers in front!
                And he quite suited the Teutons.
                And the French themselves turned their noses up from "Hotchkiss" for a long time.
                1. +2
                  23 September 2022 10: 31
                  Oh, Alexey, well, you know that my interests are somewhat lower on the historical bar, about five hundred years. I would be happy to discuss this with you, but in this case my knowledge is episodic. Alas and ah!
                  1. +2
                    23 September 2022 10: 39
                    So there is knowledge about Teutonic snipers, but have you never heard of the German "Maxim" MG08?
                    Joker you, Anton! belay
                    1. +3
                      23 September 2022 10: 55
                      I have indirect knowledge about the losses of junior RIA officers in the first year of WWI, due to dashing bravado.
                      1. +1
                        23 September 2022 11: 17
                        Are the Teutonic snipers in the first place in the statistics of losses?
            2. +2
              23 September 2022 11: 25
              Quote: hohol95
              That way, all technically literate officers would be recorded as machine gunners ..

              In secret, in the RIA before WWI, a calculation was made to Maxim from 11 people and 2 wagons.And yes, an officer ..
              Only artillerymen were cooler ...
              1. +3
                23 September 2022 12: 00
                Quote: your1970
                In secret, in the RIA before WWI, a calculation of 11 people and 2 wagons was assigned to Maxim. And yes, an officer ..

                In the Red Army, the appetites of machine gunners moderated a little: smile
                The easel machine gun is serviced by the head of the machine gun and six fighters: a rangefinder observer, a gunner, an assistant gunner, two cartridge carriers, and a rider.
                © Infantryman's Handbook. 1940
                1. +2
                  23 September 2022 12: 19
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Quote: your1970
                  In secret, in the RIA before WWI, a calculation of 11 people and 2 wagons was assigned to Maxim. And yes, an officer ..

                  In the Red Army, the appetites of machine gunners moderated a little: smile
                  The easel machine gun is serviced by the head of the machine gun and six fighters: a rangefinder observer, a gunner, an assistant gunner, two cartridge carriers, and a rider.
                  © Infantryman's Handbook. 1940

                  I read pre-WWII instructions.
                  Great-grandfather was a machine gunner in WWI and was awarded.
                  Life Guards Cuirassier Regiment..
                2. +4
                  23 September 2022 12: 27
                  They also relied on an optical sight and practiced firing from closed positions.
                  For various reasons, both sights and "shooting at artillery" then had to be abandoned.
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                    23 September 2022 17: 32
                    Quote: hohol95
                    For various reasons, both sights and "shooting at artillery" then had to be abandoned.

                    By and large, the reason is one - personnel. A competent commander is needed to fire with the PDO. And during the war there were not enough competent personnel for artillery, where else to give their machine gunners.
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                23 September 2022 12: 31
                hi
                The officer could correctly read to his subordinates the instruction on the combat use and repair of the machine gun.
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                23 September 2022 13: 39
                Quote: your1970
                In secret, in the RIA before WWI, a calculation of 11 people and 2 wagons was assigned to Maxim. And yes, an officer ..
                Only artillerymen were cooler ...
                And machine guns were then considered artillery pieces. That's why they were implemented so poorly. And they even practiced shooting from closed positions.
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                  23 September 2022 19: 12
                  Shooting from closed positions was also practiced in the Red Army until 1941.
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              23 September 2022 13: 04
              Quote: hohol95
              I can hardly imagine this machine gun in the ranks of the Russian Imperial Army ...
              If the Japanese soldiers were forbidden to carry out routine work without the supervision of an officer.
              How about repairs?
              That way, all technically literate officers would be recorded as machine gunners ...

              Have you seen NSD on "Maxim"? There, one set of accessories already introduces a state of deep thought. And checks, maintenance with clearance adjustment and elimination of typical malfunctions are read like a holy book of the Adeptus Mechanicus. smile
              After reading the NSD on "maxim", I understood why the Yankees had to redo the Ma Deuce.
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                23 September 2022 13: 19
                He held in his hands the NSD from 1942. But I did not study this book in depth.
                The Yankees could not master the "Maxim"?
                Many did, but they didn't.
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                  23 September 2022 13: 28
                  Quote: hohol95
                  He held in his hands the NSD from 1942. But I did not study this book in depth.
                  The Yankees could not master the "Maxim"?
                  Many did, but they didn't.

                  Read earlier...
                  There gunner's assistant immediately drives into a stupor ... and already 11 people of calculation ....
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                    23 September 2022 13: 33
                    Do you happen to know the composition of the calculation of the German MG08 for 1914?
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                      23 September 2022 14: 39
                      No, alas, I don’t have knowledge of German ... but I strongly suspect that no less ...
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                  23 September 2022 17: 40
                  Quote: hohol95
                  The Yankees could not master the "Maxim"?

                  No, I meant that the automation of the beginning and the first half of the XNUMXth century may indeed be too complicated for current personnel.
                  "Maxim" was taken only as an example. The Yankees in the 90s had problems with their native Ma Deuce. More precisely, with adjustments of the shutter mirror and the position of the drummer. And I had to make a modernized M2, in which these adjustments were removed - otherwise the equipment of the past, which fell into the hands of modern military men, would fail too often. smile
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                    23 September 2022 18: 33
                    That's the problem. Didn't understand your comment at first.
                    The current "cadres" have slightly different concepts of technology and "modified stuffing of the cranial box."
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      23 September 2022 18: 45
      Good evening, Alex!

      I first saw how this machine gun works in dynamics in the Mexican film "Juan Galio" (1960), where, however, they did without lubricating the cartridges.

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        23 September 2022 19: 15
        Good evening Konstantin!
        In Soviet films, they practically did not show how water was poured into Maxims !!!
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          23 September 2022 19: 59
          I’m not really talking about this, if you haven’t seen the film - look, a magnificent actress in the title role, and the film was shot interestingly, there are real death penalties, for which then the Mexicans were terribly scolded and almost sued the director.
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    23 September 2022 08: 41
    He realized that it took a lot of metal at the breech to absorb the most heat exactly where it was generated the most. But instead of making cooling ribs on the barrel itself (which, no doubt, would increase its weight), he put brass rings on it at critical heating points. They added a little weight, but they gave more than ten times the radiant surface for air cooling. This radiator has become a kind of hallmark of this machine gun, noticeable even at a great distance.

    The author of the article, someone Robert G. Segel, to put it mildly, is far from understanding the issue. Heat was required not to absorb, but to give. More weight was added with brass rings than with steel rings, since the specific gravity of brass is 8,5 g / cm3, and that of steel is 7,8 g / cm3. Taking into account the fact that the thermal conductivity coefficient of brass is not much higher than that of steel (85,5 for brass versus 74,4 for steel), the use of brass did not gain anything in terms of cooling, but increased the weight of the machine gun and production costs. Therefore, brass was abandoned and the radiator began to be made of steel.
    Concerning "But instead of making ribs for cooling on the trunk itself", then this would cause a serious waste of metal and complicate the already proven technology. The ring version was much more technologically advanced.
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    23 September 2022 23: 03
    The Germans had Hotchkiss in the bunkers in the forest near the Tosna River near the village of Peschanka, which no longer exists. But in the bunkers at the same turn, he shot from MG, and not "Lebel".
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      24 September 2022 23: 31
      The psheks had Hotchkisses under Mauser, in commercial quantities.
      So I don't see anything surprising.