Sit and not sweat: seats for tankers with built-in air conditioning

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Source: smolbattle.ru

Source: smolbattle.ru


As you know, in hot and sunny weather, being inside tank slightly reminiscent of going to the bath - the air temperature in its habitable compartments can reach +50 degrees Celsius. In such conditions, long-term combat work is out of the question, so the presence of air conditioners on military equipment has already become commonplace. But air cooling is just one of the ways to make the life of tankers more comfortable. An alternative could be a “cold seat”, developed back in the USSR in the 80s.



Source: ivan-perevodchik.ru

Source: ivan-perevodchik.ru

And why is it needed?


In order to understand the feasibility of developing a "cold seat", we need to talk a little about the requirements for tank air conditioners.

Why is it so hot in a tank? First of all, of course, because of the armor. The hull and turret of the tank heat up very quickly from the hot ambient air and sunlight, while they very actively give off heat and actually arrange a real bath from the habitable compartments of the tank. This harmful heating is supplemented by other sources of heat: a running engine and transmission, the heat from which penetrates into the combat compartment. Cannon firing also contributes - the calories of gunpowder burned when fired do not disappear without a trace.

Considering such a number of “heaters”, the air-cooling air conditioner must have a very decent power, therefore “eating” a couple of kilowatts from the tank’s on-board electrical network is far from the limit, and its possibilities are far from limitless. In addition, severe restrictions are imposed on the overall dimensions of the cooler, however, the largest elements of its design can be taken out of the reserved volume.

External air conditioning unit on the T-90CA tower. Source: topwar.ru

External air conditioning unit on the T-90CA tower.

Of course, today all these problems have been solved in one way or another, so the installation of a “Conder” is quite possible and is practiced, although not in a forced mass manner, for absolutely all cars. But what can a cool seat offer?

Very moderate power consumption. A conventional air conditioner needs to continuously distill large volumes of air through itself - hence, in general, those same kilowatts that load the on-board network. The seat cools the body of the tanker due to close contact with him. Thus, heat removal occurs directly, and this will certainly have a positive effect on the energy efficiency of the system - on average, one tanker seat required no more than 300 watts for its operation.

Well, it's time to consider this product in detail. Moreover, its composition is not limited to just one chair.

cool seat design


The product is based on a completely standard seat, the lower cushion (on which the tanker sits) was replaced with a modernized one. It has a panel consisting of nine thermoelectric elements operating on the principle of the Peltier effect.

In a simplified form, this effect consists in the transfer of energy (heat) during the passage of an electric current at the point of contact of two dissimilar conductors. An example is two elements - one from antimony and the other from bismuth. If a little water is dropped at the point of their contact and an electric current is passed through them, the water will turn into ice.

Source: "Local thermal protection of the VGM crew". V.A. Arefiev, V.I. Golub etc.

Source: V. A. Arefiev, V. I. Golub et al. “Local thermal protection of the VGM crew”.

During the operation of such thermoelectric panels, their upper part (plate), which is in contact with the tanker's body, will be cooled, while the lower one, on the contrary, will heat up. Therefore, water cooling is used to remove heat from these elements: water is driven through the heat exchangers of the cooling panels and then goes into a radiator blown by a fan.

Cooled seat and breathable vest. Source: "Local thermal protection of the VGM crew". V.A. Arefiev, V.I. Golub etc.

Cooled seat and breathable vest. Source: V. A. Arefiev, V. I. Golub et al. “Local thermal protection of the VGM crew”.

But one "cold seat" decided not to do. An addition to it was a special anti-fragmentation tanker vest, to which an air blower is connected through a hose. This vest performs a dual role: it protects against injury when breaking through armor and cools the upper body of a person due to airflow.

As a result, although complex in appearance, it turned out to be quite energy-efficient installation, which during its operation consumed up to 80 watts in the blowing mode through the vest and up to 300 watts in the combined mode, when the body blowing and seat cooling were turned on simultaneously. Other characteristics can be seen in the attached image below.

Parameters of the cooled sitting complete with a vest. Source: "Local thermal protection of the VGM crew". V.A. Arefiev, V.I. Golub etc.

Parameters of the cooled sitting complete with a vest. Source: V. A. Arefiev, V. I. Golub et al. “Local thermal protection of the VGM crew”.

Tests and conclusions


In order to test the performance and effectiveness of the cooling seat, they equipped the driver's seat in the T-62 tank and tested it in a desert area in southern Uzbekistan. For experimental races, the hottest daytime was chosen: from 12:00 to 18:00. At the same time, the air temperature inside the habitable compartments reached 48 degrees Celsius, and the internal surfaces of the tank - 55 degrees.

All crew members were dressed in the same clothes, consisting of cotton trousers and tunics, as well as vests and tarpaulin boots.

During the experiment, the fact was confirmed almost immediately: without an air conditioner in extreme heat, even just being in a tank without performing complex combat work is already torture. The commander and gunner, who did not have cooling seats, could not stand it for more than three hours. Moreover, there were often situations when the tests had to be interrupted within an hour or two after they began, because the tankers lost consciousness or were in such a state that the continuation of this execution threatened with serious consequences for their health.

Monitoring of the physiological parameters of the commander and gunner showed that their body temperature soared to 38,5-38,6 degrees Celsius, and the heart rate increased to 120 beats per minute. Moisture loss (through sweat) reached 850 grams per hour.

But the driver, as they say, was "high" with a blown vest and a cool seat. The high temperature inside the tank did not prevent him from driving the tank, by the way, doing a lot of physical work for six hours or more. In fact, he could sit in a heated car for at least a day if it was necessary.

His body temperature did not exceed 37 degrees, and his pulse was 76 beats. Moisture loss amounted to 708 grams. The result is quite excellent.

Also, in addition to the tank, the cooled seat was tested in the BMP-2 and BTR-80, where it also proved to be good. This can be found in the attached table.

Air conditioning, extractor - joint work of the seat and vest; hood - use only a blown vest; dash - no vest and cooling seat. Source: "Local thermal protection of the VGM crew". V.A. Arefiev, V.I. Golub etc.

Air conditioning, extractor - joint work of the seat and vest; hood - use only a blown vest; dash - no vest and cooling seat. Source: V. A. Arefiev, V. I. Golub et al. “Local thermal protection of the VGM crew”.

In general, the product turned out to be really interesting. It has become a rather non-standard solution for armored vehicles to the problem of normal climatic conditions in the habitable compartments of combat vehicles. At the same time, unlike classic air conditioners, this system consumed little power from the onboard electrical network - less than one kilowatt, if all crew members had cooled seats. Therefore, these coolers were actively proposed for installation on Soviet tanks, but it did not work out.

The prospects for such local thermal protection for tankers were very vague.

Firstly, for radiators and fans that cool the water, although not a large, but still very scarce free armor volume was required, each cubic centimeter of which in our tanks is already worth its weight in gold.

And secondly, given the conservatism of military (and not only military) officials, one could not even dream of installing even ordinary air conditioners, not to mention local ones.
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  1. +20
    12 August 2022 05: 18
    with a blown vest and a cool seat.

    I wonder if the authors of the invention of "cool sitting" are familiar with the word "prostatitis"?
    1. +12
      12 August 2022 05: 54
      Well, radiculitis is definitely familiar
      1. +4
        12 August 2022 06: 13
        Anyway, air conditioning is more convenient.
        Hi all!
        1. +7
          12 August 2022 06: 42
          Good morning. Never heard of such an invention, but ...
          Recalling my tank marches, I can say with confidence that it was more annoying sweat flooding the face, and not an overheated back or "fifth point" smile
          1. +2
            12 August 2022 09: 47
            Good morning .
            I haven't heard of this air conditioner either.
            No words, air conditioning is a convenient and useful thing. A person in the heat is not so attentive, he can make mistakes.
            But not everything is good with air conditioning. It dries the air.
            When driving for a long time, it feels like sand has been poured into the eyes, without adequate air humidity, the shell of the eye dries up.
            When I drive for a long time in hot weather, I put a piece of cellophane on the back seat, and on it a damp towel, which I moisten from time to time.
            1. -1
              12 August 2022 16: 37
              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              But not everything is good with air conditioning. It dries the air

              This is just fixable, the evaporative nozzle in the jet solves this problem by humidifying the air.
            2. +2
              12 August 2022 21: 49
              It means that the air conditioning is bad, we have automatic humidity control on the Merkava-4 and Namer armored personnel carriers, and besides, there is a moisture accumulator and excellent water through the filter, as well as a minibar with hot and cold water, there are no boundaries to the exercises in the desert.
              1. +2
                12 August 2022 22: 19
                I haven't bought a tank yet.
                And on the passenger car there is a climate control. For short trips it is not necessary to humidify the air, but if you drive a few hundred kilometers, it is better. But you can open a window from time to time or make a stop.
              2. -5
                13 August 2022 16: 55
                Quote: merkava-2bet
                as well as a minibar

                What about blackjack and hookers?
          2. +4
            12 August 2022 10: 50
            I also remembered my feelings, though not Central Asia or Afghanistan, but the Baikal region. In my opinion, it’s cheaper to make a diaper for the body (preferably reusable) and a small influx of relatively cool air to the head.
          3. +1
            12 August 2022 11: 31
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Good morning. Never heard of such an invention, but ...
            Recalling my tank marches, I can say with confidence that it was more annoying sweat flooding the face, and not an overheated back or "fifth point" smile

            I am Igor, I read about such ideas in periodicals. The idea is not bad, partially implemented in Israel.
            But any vests will always constrain the crew.
      2. AUL
        +8
        12 August 2022 08: 05
        Quote: Siberian54
        Well, radiculitis is definitely familiar

        And boils all over the body! I think that the medical forum users can add a lot to this list.
        1. +1
          12 August 2022 20: 46
          That's how much I've been driving with kondeya, I've never encountered the problem you described
        2. +1
          13 August 2022 13: 02
          Specifically, on the tests of these vests, there was pneumonia. It seems that you need to locally cool the shoulders and hips, but not the joints. And head moderately.
    2. +4
      12 August 2022 06: 11
      Which on such a seat will be guaranteed 146%.
    3. 0
      12 August 2022 10: 57
      Quote: Amateur
      with a blown vest and a cool seat.

      I wonder if the authors of the invention of "cool sitting" are familiar with the word "prostatitis"?

      I understand that you never had a car with a ventilated seat and you never even got into such a car?
    4. +3
      12 August 2022 11: 32
      In addition to the prostate, there (in the pelvic area) there is still a lot of "fun" things you can earn.
    5. +1
      12 August 2022 20: 42
      Quote: Amateur
      with a blown vest and a cool seat.

      I wonder if the authors of the invention of "cool sitting" are familiar with the word "prostatitis"?

      It happens that with a simple air conditioner or an unsuccessfully opened window, it will blow through the muscles of the back and neck in such a way that it’s not at all up to driving and working, but here in the tank. I think air conditioning is still better than a cool seat. I have this feature in my car and never use it.
    6. -1
      10 November 2022 19: 30
      Prostatitis is certainly dangerous, but loss of consciousness by a driver is at least an accident in an exercise, and the death of a car in battle, so the risk is small compared to the benefits.
      1. 0
        11 November 2022 04: 26
        Prostatitis is certainly dangerous, but the loss of consciousness by the driver is at least an accident in the exercises,

        You are absolutely right! But only in the case when the driver's brains are not in the head, but in the priest, which, in addition, needs to be cooled.
  2. +2
    12 August 2022 05: 22
    Here is a patent!
    It’s somehow easier for the Israelis - flexible plastic pipes come from a low-power air conditioner, you need to - put it in commercial ones, don’t need it - pulled it out
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 16: 20
      To whom and where to poke?)) Albert, Greetings!
      1. +2
        12 August 2022 23: 13
        Hi! hi
        In overalls))
        Well, if you bring a soldier into the tank, then role-playing games and all that, Yes .))
  3. +3
    12 August 2022 06: 10
    given the conservatism of military (and not only military) officials, one could not even dream of installing even ordinary air conditioners, not to mention local ones.

    Legends can be made about this "conservativeness" .... It's a pity that they are not very positive. wink
    1. +2
      12 August 2022 11: 39
      Quote: Hagen
      given the conservatism of military (and not only military) officials, one could not even dream of installing even ordinary air conditioners, not to mention local ones.

      Legends can be made about this "conservativeness" .... It's a pity that they are not very positive. wink

      This is realism, not conservatism.
      A couple of years on such a seat in Central Asia and the tanker will become unsuitable for work - sciatica, etc.
      And conscripts have prostatitis, and this despite the fact that the state fought for the reproduction of the people ...
      1. +3
        12 August 2022 12: 01
        Quote: your1970
        This is realism, not conservatism.

        This is, to a large extent, the indifference of some fathers-commanders to the needs of the soldier masses, brought up by the patience of the Russian soldier. And this is not only in air conditioners on military equipment. It lived everywhere in simple economic everyday life until the end of the last century. Today something is changing, but all this is not a movement "from below", not from a simple company or battalion commander. This is necessary for the minister to come and do good. Once I met the Minister of Defense of Finland in the regiment. She was restrainedly surprised at the dense living conditions of a soldier in our regiment. And the regiment had a name, advanced by the standards of the district. Somehow, once again, we won the "challenge banner" at the end of the summer period of study. The commander decided to hand it over on January 2. The entire regiment celebrated New Year's Eve with a "hand-to-hand" fight with snow. And what is remarkable, not the slightest hint of mechanization of the process. Poor was the company that got the regimental parade ground laughing. At shooting in the winter, one kind of frozen infantry fighting vehicle made me shiver. And the exercises on equipment in overcoats, except for the mat, did not give rise to any emotions laughing (Probably because of this, service in the SA is remembered by any Soviet-made man for life, and then unites them regardless of their career position. laughing
  4. +5
    12 August 2022 06: 14
    I'd rather have a cool breeze in my face than in my ass.
    1. AUL
      +2
      12 August 2022 08: 07
      Complete with sinusitis?
      1. -1
        12 August 2022 11: 23
        Complete with sinusitis?

        Usually in the car, I direct the cold air to the windshield. But this week I was driving from the Crimea and when passing through Rostov I had to send a chill in my face, the heat was 35 degrees and a traffic jam.
  5. +1
    12 August 2022 06: 19
    You can also make a cooled jumpsuit, it will be very good for a tanker.
    1. Eug
      +5
      12 August 2022 06: 32
      Like a PPK for pilots, but instead of compressed air, it’s cold to start up through the tubes .. and a tank headset can be connected to this system ..
      1. +4
        12 August 2022 11: 23
        Quote: Eug
        By type of PPK for pilots

        Additional requirements for the uniform of tankers: non-combustible materials, etc.
        Yes, and emergency leaves the car must be provided in such equipment
  6. +7
    12 August 2022 06: 23
    The authors of the cold seat had no brains. They didn't even go to the bathhouse. First of all, the head, or rather the brain, is afraid of overheating, which is why they put on hats in the steam room. As they say "stupid" and cold ears. But in fact, human ears serve as a unique radiator of the brain. Therefore, with increased thinking, the temperature of the ears rises, and not the ass.
    1. +5
      12 August 2022 11: 05
      Not only a person has ears - a radiator.
      In a hare, in a desert hedgehog and a fox, these hearing organs are also enlarged in size.
      1. +1
        12 August 2022 11: 19
        In a hare, in a desert hedgehog and a fox, these hearing organs are also enlarged in size.

        Well, it's a classic. Elephants also have radiator ears. Only science calls human ears rudiments, and the people are smarter, which is why the saying is “stupid” (VO qualification) and the ears are cold drinks
  7. Eug
    -1
    12 August 2022 06: 29
    PMSM, this is just the case when you should not reinvent the wheel, but should "rip off" the solution from the same Merkav. Praada, there will be more armored volume ....
  8. -3
    12 August 2022 07: 37
    A similar effect can be achieved by spraying, for example, a tower with water. Outside. Once every 15-20 minutes, 5-6 liters. I am silent about energy efficiency) Water can be used any, the dirtiest, anyhow.
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 09: 37
      What a primitive approach. It should be like in a street cafe, with chic and scope. Put an anti-javelin grate on the tower, and on it a system of nozzles for inducing fog.

      And a barrel of water, at least two hundred liters.
      ps fogging system will only be applicable on command tanks equipped with an auxiliary propulsion system wassat

      And this is how the system should look like in the absence of lattices above the tower.

      fellow
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 11: 36
        These sprinklers are not for our climate, in a few hours from high humidity it will be even worse. hi
      2. +4
        12 August 2022 11: 48
        The Indians already have a ready-made solution for the T-90 smile
      3. 0
        12 August 2022 13: 08
        The bed nets on the armor are also funny. True, it works, and not bad) I once cooled a Muscovite like that. Grams 50-70 of water on the roof (put a tank with a motor from the washer) and a pleasant coolness spreads in the cabin. Of course, kondei in 5-7 years at the price of a tank gun is good. A tank with a motor can make a crew, right now)
      4. 0
        26 October 2022 19: 47
        Somehow in winter, I fell asleep half a meter from a working humidifier. When I woke up, my lungs were fluttering. Basically, it was pneumonia.
    2. 0
      12 August 2022 11: 41
      Quote: Mikhail3
      A similar effect can be achieved by spraying, for example, a tower with water. Outside. Once every 15-20 minutes, 5-6 liters. I am silent about energy efficiency) Water can be used any, the dirtiest, anyhow.

      Half a ton of water per day on board - in Central Asia ...
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 13: 09
        Half a ton of fuel per day for Peltier elements. In our army...
        1. -1
          12 August 2022 18: 24
          When I served a term in Kushka, summer began there in March and ended in November. From April it could be +50, from May +60 ..
          In winter, at the end of January, it could be + 25- in the afternoon, but we were cold and put on pea coats on our greatcoats during the day.
          Having retired from +60, I came home to my relatives +37. I felt cold, I put on a sweater and went to help my father - in a sweater! ... so the neighbors pulled my mother - belay belay
          1. -1
            12 August 2022 20: 38
            + 60C is if you lie naked on hot asphalt at three o'clock in the afternoon. And so there + 44-45C at most in the shade. Wikipedia gives a record of +47,6C.
            They lie about cold nights in the desert, during the day over 40 degrees, at night 30-35 degrees, you can go crazy from the heat. The temperature at night strongly depends on the height, level. If it is close to the level of the world ocean, then no night will save you from the heat, in Ashgabat it is almost the same both during the day and at night.
            1. +1
              12 August 2022 22: 21
              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              And so there + 44-45C at most in the shade.

              served a term in Kushka in 1988-1990. Artillery regiment, the highest point in the division, on the left - Alyosha on the right - Cross ....
              The thermometers were broken down to +60, 50 degrees just went off scale.
              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              About cold nights lies in the desert

              Quote: your1970
              afternoon(!!!!) could be +25 - but we were freezing
              1. 0
                12 August 2022 22: 36
                It is long night, and in Turkmenbashi, Kumdag and Balkanabat it is +30C. They lie about cold nights, they lie.
                We are watching Afghanistan, Mazar-i-Sharif + 30C, and everyone says that it is cold there at night.
                1. 0
                  12 August 2022 23: 00
                  Not true, the temperature gradient difference is very large, especially in the foothills of the Kopetdag and Ashgabat. I myself was born and raised in Mary, the climate was easy for me, but in Israel I got used to high humidity for two years.
                  1. 0
                    12 August 2022 23: 10
                    Are there numbers? Right now, if you look at the temperature map? The numbers prove me right, not TV myths.
                    1. 0
                      13 August 2022 00: 02
                      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                      The numbers prove me right, not TV myths.

                      As soon as I get to the scanner and the demobilization album, I'll throw off a photo of the thermometer ....
                      And yes, for a conscript, these are not myths from TV - I served there. And I loaded the cars with Gradovsky pencils at +60 ...
                      1. 0
                        13 August 2022 00: 14
                        The opponent spoke about some unthinkable gradients that have not met there in two years. And the temperature is measured in the shade, otherwise in the summer in the sun and from the black rubber hose you can get a burn, and it’s still a pleasure to grab onto the HDPE pipe in the sun.
                  2. 0
                    12 August 2022 23: 34
                    Clearly, there are no cold night figures for Turkestan at the moment. These are the TV myths and children's prejudices.
            2. -1
              13 August 2022 02: 57
              So in the shade ... the sun is much more out. And about the day and night ... even here in the Ulyanovsk region. Daily drops of 20 degrees ... and already there :( belay
  9. -6
    12 August 2022 10: 42
    We do everything in one place.
  10. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 35
    That is, judging by the essay, the air conditioner spends a lot of energy and the tubes interfere, but the tubes will not interfere with this unit, how will the energy consumption disappear?
    New laws of physics and mechanics?
    Isn't it easier to make overalls that will be connected to a common network and they will already cool or heat the forehead? request
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 13: 11
      There are almost no tubes. True, it’s cool under the ass, two centimeters from the working area, you can fry an egg. So intensive air cooling of the hot part of the Peltier elements, and certainly overboard, otherwise there will be an edge in the cockpit.
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 13: 38
        and certainly overboard, otherwise there will be an edge in the cockpit.

        That's right. Overboard. But when there is no board?
        The Moscow metro has been operating carriages with air conditioners for ten years already. As a result, during the hot summer period, when a train approaches, heated air comes out of the tunnel, and earlier it was cold. The ventilation (climate) system of the metro was built on heating the stations in winter with heat from people, and in summer cooling from the cold surface of the tunnels. In St. Petersburg, comfort in the subway has been preserved, there is a car building plant there, and that useless air conditioners for the subway do not suck. Whoever made the decision about air conditioning in the subway is, firstly, an illiterate person, and secondly, he does not ride the subway.
        1. +1
          16 August 2022 07: 00
          What are you talking about? Didn't understand anything at all.
          By the way - what about jade? Cooling the back and fifth point will lead to kidney failure. As is usually the case with people sitting in the heat on the cold ground ...
    2. +2
      12 August 2022 23: 03
      What we did on the Merkava-3 tanks with a connection to the general network for each overall.
  11. 0
    12 August 2022 13: 07
    It is not entirely clear how to make a cooled seat for the driver. It is literally filled with lead and weighs like 100 devils. When servicing the control department, he was pulled out together. In a sense - one driver pushes him out, and the second one, on the armor, picks it up.
    But I'm talking about the T-72. A lot has changed in the T-90.
  12. 0
    12 August 2022 13: 19
    How about comparing efficiency?
  13. +2
    12 August 2022 13: 25
    The one who came up with the idea of ​​installing such a "bad chair" in a tank should be obliged to use this miracle chair themselves, until prostatitis appears.
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 20: 57
      Oh really? Is it better to sit on a hot frying pan? I have overboard now and in the dark + 31C.
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 23: 05
        And where is +31°C for you?
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 23: 12
          Approximately, in the triangle Kamyshin, Mines, Astrakhan. Now it is already a little lower, somewhere + 29-30С.
          1. 0
            13 August 2022 00: 05
            According to Yandex, today I had +32. I'm a little north of you
            1. 0
              13 August 2022 00: 17
              So in the afternoon the car showed me +36C. It doesn’t matter, the tank crew needs to be cooled, the question is how.
  14. 0
    13 August 2022 22: 20
    The seat cools the body of the tanker due to close contact with him. Thus, heat removal occurs directly, and this will certainly have a positive effect on the energy efficiency of the system.

    m l i... :)
    the author did not try, in the heat of 40 degrees, to climb into an iron box standing in the sun, sit on a large piece of ice and check how quickly it cools down through its sphincter ...
    I might be curious why the radiators in electronics are made "needle" ...
    thanks to such smart people, nothing is being done for the soldier in our country ...
    air conditioners are put only on the order of foreign armies, such as Arabs / Hindus ...
    there is a soldier - a man ...
    1. 0
      16 August 2022 03: 33
      And the author of the comment did not try to read the article, which clearly indicates the test results, which are supported by the physiological indicators of the tankers? laughing
      1. 0
        16 August 2022 20: 49
        indicators of tankers

        unlike the "tankers", I myself served in armor for two years in a region where it was 30 degrees in the shade and I know what it's like to sit inside closed "in combat" in the scorching sun ...
        air conditioners, yes, but then there was no mention of it, and the best thing to save was a wet piece of sheet with which it was wrapped under a jumpsuit ...
  15. 0
    14 August 2022 10: 54
    And why is it needed?
    This is not a luxury, but the provision of the specified (high) functionality of the crews of the "human-equipment" system, which is created and used to achieve the specified (high) combat effectiveness. The effectiveness of such a system is often limited by the effectiveness of the human component.
    These restrictions are not only subjective in nature (under-educated, indiscipline, inconsistency of innate or acquired psycho-physiological qualities with the requirements of the profession), but also of an objective nature, i.e. limitations that are inherent in man as a biological species.
    The first is referred to as the "subjective factor", the second is referred to as the "human factor".
    Don't be confused!
  16. 0
    14 November 2022 16: 07
    Regarding the installation of an air conditioner in the tank. The question is definitely interesting! If we take the European theater of operations, then the need for it is doubtful.
    This I proceed from my 35 years in the tank forces, including 2 years in Azerbaijan, 7 years in Ukraine.
    The average daily temperatures of the hottest months in the south of Russia (Rostov region) are:
    Month Max/Min(°C)
    June 26° / 16°
    July 29° / 18°
    August 28° / 17°
    Of course, during my three-year stay in Syria, the need for air conditioning was felt.
    For the T-90 tank, such an air conditioner, an air-shower type, was created back in the late 90s.
    However, when delivering T-90 tanks abroad, local tank commanders treated air conditioners differently.
    I participated in negotiations on the purchase of these tanks in India and Algeria. And, if the Algerians were very pleased that the tanks would be air-conditioned, then the Indians categorically refused air conditioners, hoping that their tankers were accustomed to the heat. I should note that during two-month tests of tanks in the Tarr Desert (eastern India) at a temperature of 40-45 degrees, the Indian crews showed themselves to be quite efficient, which could not be said about the Russian employees of the test escort group.
    If we talk about improving the comfort of the work of tankers on the European theater of operations and in the North, then it is advisable to pay attention to the heating of the fighting compartment. This drawback was clearly manifested in the T-80U tank during international tank tests in Sweden in 1993-94, when during the test for the duration of the crew's stay in the tank in winter with the engine turned off, our crew was the first to surrender.