Give now, receive later. Poland on the eve of the tank crisis

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Polish Tanks T-72M on the way to Ukraine, April 2022. Photo by Telegram / ChDambiev

Since April, Poland has transferred several hundred of its main battle tanks to Ukraine, and more deliveries are expected. At the same time, the Polish army orders foreign armored vehicles of current types. Due to these processes, it is supposed to help the allied state and update its tank fleet. However, in reality the situation is more complicated. So far, Warsaw has only succeeded in reducing the number of its own tanks, and achieving other results takes time and money.

Starting positions


Until recently, Poland had one of the largest tank fleets in Europe, second only to Russia and Ukraine. According to The Military Balance 2022, at the beginning of this year, the Polish army had 797 main tanks. This number included machines of several types of different origins and different ages.



The most numerous were the T-72 MBTs of several modifications. There were 318 such machines in service, which were distinguished by their great age. The last T-72s were manufactured in Poland under license back in the mid-nineties. Also in service were 232 of the newer PT-91 Twardy, the Polish version of the T-72M upgrade.

To date, Poland has purchased 247 German Leopard 2 tanks of several modifications. The most numerous so far are Leopard 2A4 - 126 units. They are followed by 105 newer "2A5". There is also a pre-production batch of upgraded Leopard 2PL. According to this project, in the future they are going to rebuild the equipment of the fourth modification.

In order to help


In April, Warsaw expressed its readiness to transfer to the Kyiv regime a certain amount of MBT from the presence of its army. In early May, it was announced that such assistance had already been sent to the recipient. According to various reports, about 230-250 T-72 tanks of various modifications were allocated to Ukraine. The further fate of the remaining cars was not specified.


Solemn event on the occasion of the modernization of a new batch of T-72M tanks, 2019. Photo by Defence24.pl

In early July, reports appeared in the Polish media about the possible continuation of such assistance. It was alleged that now Poland plans to transfer newer PT-91 tanks to the ally. Moreover, all 232 cash machines of this type can be included in the next assistance package. Until a certain time, this information did not receive confirmation, but it was not refuted either.

On July 24, the Ministries of Defense of Poland and Ukraine almost simultaneously announced the start of deliveries of the PT-91. The first batch has already been sent to the recipient. At the same time, the size of the lot and the volume of the next deliveries have not yet been reported. Whether Warsaw will decide to give up all its Twardy is unknown.

Thus, in just a few months, the Polish tank fleet was reduced by 230-250 units. No more than 565 MBTs remain in stock, and their number may decrease again. At the same time, it is easy to see that the oldest cars were written off and sent abroad in the first place. After serviceable T-72s, newer PT-91s began to be shipped. In turn, modern Leopard 2s remain in service and will not be touched.

American replacement


It should be noted that the MBTs transferred to Ukraine in recent months would have been decommissioned anyway. Poland is planning a major upgrade of its tank fleet, which involves the replacement of obsolete Soviet-style vehicles with modern foreign-designed and manufactured vehicles. Against the backdrop of assistance to the Kyiv regime, relevant contracts are being prepared and signed.


The ceremony of signing the contract for the supply of American M1A2C, April 2022. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Poland

For some time it was discussed and in early April an agreement was signed with the United States. In accordance with it, in 2022-25. the Polish side will receive 250 M1A2C / SEP v.3 Abrams tanks, as well as auxiliary vehicles and related equipment. The total value of the contract is PLN 23,3 billion (more than USD 6 billion).

Deliveries of tanks from the United States will begin at the end of 2024 and will take about two years. With the help of 250 imported vehicles, they plan to rearm four tank battalions, now equipped with Polish T-72M1R and German Leopard 2A5. It is curious that the process of training personnel is already beginning. For training, 28 M1A2 SEP v.3 tanks, temporarily transferred to Poland, will be used. The first three vehicles have recently arrived at one of the Polish bases.

On July 15, it became known that Warsaw was going to purchase an additional batch of Abrams. This time we are talking about 116 MBTs from the presence of the US armed forces. Deliveries of this equipment should begin next year and will ensure the rearmament of two additional battalions. According to unconfirmed information, the United States may sell Poland M1A1 tanks, recently retired from the Marine Corps.

Korean contract


Over the past few years, Poland has been considering the possibility of acquiring K2 Black Panther tanks from the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem. In 2020, the development company even presented a layout of the K2PL MBT, modified in accordance with Polish requirements.


The M1A1 tank of the American ILC is Poland's new desire. Photo by the US Department of Defense

On July 24, a representative of the Polish Ministry of Defense revealed current plans for the Panthers, and on July 27 a corresponding contract was signed. According to him, the Polish army will receive a total of 1000 South Korean vehicles. Purchases will begin with 180 South Korean-assembled K2 tanks. The first can be received already this year, and the last are expected in 2025. With their help, Poland will make up for the losses in the form of tanks transferred to Ukraine. In the second half of the decade, these K2s will have to be upgraded under the K2PL project.

In 2026, the army will have to receive the first of 820 planned K2PLs. This technique is proposed to be built by joint efforts. Part of the components and assemblies will be sent by South Korea, while the production of others will be mastered by Poland. For their production and final assembly of tanks, it is planned to build a new plant.

In the distant future, Poland and South Korea may develop a new MBT, so far referred to as K3PL. It is assumed that this will be a deep modernization of the existing K2, characterized by increased performance. Again, it is proposed to establish joint production.

Disputes with Germany


Back in April-May, when handing over its T-72 tanks to the Kyiv regime, Warsaw turned to Germany and Switzerland with a demand to compensate for such “disarmament”. Poland wanted to get the latest German Leopard 2 modifications.

First of all, Poland showed interest in the latest Leopard 2A7, but Germany refused to supply it due to the small number of such tanks and the impossibility of quickly building additional batches. Discussions then began on the delivery of 42 Leopard 2A4 tanks, which had previously served in Switzerland and are now in storage at German sites. In addition, the Swiss army was offered to give equipment from its units.


One of the first M1A2 SEP v.2 for training Polish tankers, July 2022. Photo by the Polish Ministry of Defense

Switzerland predictably refused to reduce its tank fleet, but allowed Germany to ship its former Leopard-2A4s. However, even in this case there were problems. In mid-July, it turned out that the German side, for one reason or another, could only allocate 20 MBTs. The first of them will be handed over to Poland only next spring. Whether Warsaw will agree to such conditions is unknown.

Challenges and problems


The situation with the tank fleet of the Polish army in just a few months has acquired an extremely interesting look. So, from April to July, at least 230-250 tanks were decommissioned and transferred to Ukraine - about a third of the previously available number. At the same time, the initiated transfer of PT-91 can further increase the absolute and relative indicators of write-offs and assistance.

In accordance with the old plans, instead of given tanks, new ones should appear in the army. However, obtaining them is associated with a number of problems of various kinds. In addition, the solution of these problems does not exclude the emergence of new difficulties of a different nature in the future.

First of all, the problem of timing attracts attention. The old T-72s and PT-91s have already been sent to Ukraine, and a replacement for them is still late. The first deliveries of foreign tanks will begin, at best, only by the end of this year. At the same time, the number of South Korean K2s received will be small, and the bulk of this equipment will arrive even later.

Obsolete American M1A1 will be available only next year, as well as not the newest Leopard 2A4. Modern M1A2C in sufficient quantities will appear only in 2025-26. Of great importance for the army is the upcoming contract for 820 K2PL machines - but they will be assembled only in the second half of the decade. As a result, all the desired 1366 tanks of foreign types could be obtained no earlier than the end of the twenties.

Based on the results of these processes, Poland will be armed with three types of MBTs, created in different countries by different schools of tank building. At the same time, up to six to seven different modifications of such equipment are expected. Obviously, disunification will lead to additional financial and organizational problems.


Model of the South Korean MBT K2PL. In the background - K2 in the original version. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of South Korea

It is reported that a new plant will be built to produce the new K2PLs. Whether it will be possible to prepare this site and put it into operation within the specified time frame is a big question. The current energy crisis and the associated economic difficulties call into question all projects of this magnitude. Even in the best case scenario, the new Polish plant will start operations months or years late.

A characteristic feature of the current situation is the actual rejection of our own tank building as an independent industry. Instead, Polish enterprises will only assemble and service foreign equipment. Perhaps the situation will change during the K3PL project, but it will not contribute to the preservation and development of its engineering school.

However, there will be positive consequences as well. Previously, the basis of the Polish tank fleet were Soviet tanks or their modified versions. The newest of these modifications appeared a quarter of a century ago and has long been obsolete. By abandoning these MBTs, the Polish army gets the opportunity to purchase modern foreign-made tanks, and in larger quantities.

tank crisis


Thus, a real tank crisis begins in the Polish army. She quickly lost at least a third of her available tanks, and is now forced to urgently look for a replacement for them. The most daring plans are being made, but a number of objective factors will hinder their implementation - or even frustrate the implementation of some intentions.

How the situation will develop, and what awaits the Polish army, time will tell. And before that, it will be possible to observe what excessive zeal in solving political problems and demonstrating loyalty to foreign partners leads to. Whether Poland will be able to get out of such a crisis without serious losses is a big question.
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  1. +5
    30 July 2022 04: 53
    Pipes will come with or without VFU tanks.
    1. -2
      30 July 2022 20: 59
      But if you look differently (?)
      what difference does it make which tanks - our air (!)
      any of our medium UAVs has an optical target illumination station GOES-4 (540)
      (2-wave laser clouds, fog, clouds, typhoons - sideways)
      target detection range such as tank, infantry fighting vehicle, armored personnel carrier - 20 km
      The control center is transferred to the artillery battery of the self-propelled guns Msta-S = UAS Krasnopol
      152 mm (50 kg = 10 kg RDX per turret)
      or on a 120-mm mortar battery = UAS KM-8 Gran
      they deliver alternate strikes with a delay of 5 seconds - since the definition of the UAS laser illumination when approaching the target = 1,3 seconds
      in practice, every 5 seconds, GOES re-highlights the next target
      a battery of 6 self-propelled guns Msta-S can destroy up to 30 targets per minute
      during massive shelling, the time of UAS approach to the target area and the number of UAS still in flight on and along different trajectories are taken into account
      it all depends on the coordination of the work of UAV operators and artillerymen or mortarmen
      question when will GOES appear at least 3-channel
      or hanging containers - this will increase the fire damage many times over, without re-highlighting
  2. Eug
    +2
    30 July 2022 05: 37
    The gas problems of the UES are only beneficial for Poland - from the point of view of becoming a major gas hub, supplying "colleagues" with LNG of American and other origin. A lot of LNG receiving terminals have been built there. Well, such plans indicate that Russia’s attacks are real (which is a lot of talk), at least Poland does not take into account. As for the materiel removed from service, it was sent to zones of armed conflict before.
  3. +11
    30 July 2022 06: 08
    Warsaw appealed to Germany and Switzerland demanding compensation for such "disarmament"

    I wonder who bit who. Poles Ukrainians or vice versa. Because only these two countries believe that everyone else owes them.
    1. +4
      30 July 2022 07: 00
      Quote: Amateur
      Warsaw appealed to Germany and Switzerland demanding compensation for such "disarmament"

      I wonder who bit who. Poles Ukrainians or vice versa. Because only these two countries believe that everyone else owes them.

      The USA believes that everyone should do as they wish and as they need, their sixes believe that the owner should praise and feed them for devotion, so these main sixes are used to receiving praise and a bone and always ask for more.
    2. 0
      23 October 2022 20: 13
      Everything comes from the Americans Poland was bitten by them for a long time (back in the 80s), and Ukraine later joined the society of "mad"
  4. +3
    30 July 2022 06: 09
    Yeah. Poland is going to create the most numerous tank fleet in Europe. Looks like plans to seize the western territories of Ukraine are very serious. But almost 700 SG 155-mm / 52 K9 Thunder have been ordered in South Korea.
    1. +2
      30 July 2022 07: 04
      Well, they assemble, God bless them, the engineering units are strengthened or not, that is the question.
      Bridges on the territory of the USSR were under our tanks and heavier ones will not go over them.
      1. +1
        1 August 2022 19: 23
        I will laugh when they trample > 60 ton M1A1 on Polish bridges. 30-50 tons. And then autumn comes. It will rain. And outside of paved roads, Abrams will be "very useful."
    2. +6
      30 July 2022 09: 26
      The USSR at one time suffered from servicing three different types of MBTs - and yet they were at least of the same design tradition ... How and why the gentlemen are going to maintain SUCH a tank zoo - I can’t imagine ..
      1. +2
        30 July 2022 14: 22
        Just the option is simpler than it is now - at least all Soviet troubles are removed. Abram, Leo and K2 can use the same EuroPowerPack (MTU/Renk), all NATO electronics compatible with each other. Well, ammunition of course.
  5. +4
    30 July 2022 06: 10
    **Whether Poland will be able to get out of such a crisis without serious losses is a big question.**
    And what is the crisis? There is no one to attack Poland, so they will update their park without any problems
  6. +3
    30 July 2022 07: 21
    and the Poles will not burst from so many tanks? where do they get so many? Is there enough tankers for all this diversity - did both Leo and Abrashki order Korean Panthers as well?
    That's because raking Polish greed ....
    1. +7
      30 July 2022 07: 30
      Maybe they read the Military Review))
      Here in the comments every second threatens to take over Poland after Ukraine .. so the Poles believed in the danger
      1. 0
        30 July 2022 07: 44
        Well, the TsIPSOshniks are probably monitoring for sure.
    2. +1
      30 July 2022 14: 25
      Quote: Nexcom
      and the Poles will not burst from so many tanks?

      Unfortunately, Poland in relation to military threats is forced to focus even on Israel, but on South Korea. So it's ok.
  7. +5
    30 July 2022 07: 23
    I wonder at whose expense the banquet? 6 billion for the Abrams, a couple of billion for the modernization of Leo, 14 (like) billion for tanks, self-propelled guns and planes from the South Caucasus. Plus 6.5 billion for penguins. Not counting the little things for the purchase of armored personnel carriers, the deployment of new parts and other things.
    My humble opinion is that creditor countries will make such money work out.
    1. +6
      30 July 2022 07: 34
      I wonder at whose expense the banquet?

      At the expense of a gynecologist from the European Union, which in turn will take money from the Germans.
      In general, it sometimes seems to me that the Americans organized this coming out-Russian war to ruin the European Union in the first place. After all, it is not for nothing that the UK left the EU just before the start of the NWO. The closest allies of the United States, after all, an insider about the future of the EU economy.
      1. 0
        30 July 2022 12: 40
        The UK left the EU just before the start of the NWO.
        Brexit took place on January 31, 2020. The reason (the main one) was the uncontrolled flow of immigrants and the collapse of social security and healthcare systems guaranteed by this (in the near future).
        1. +2
          30 July 2022 13: 53
          Brexit took place on January 31, 2020.

          And the prerequisites for SVO began in 2014. The Brexit vote was in 2016. So everything correlates very well by date.
          1. +1
            30 July 2022 14: 00
            And the prerequisites for SVO began in 2014
            Then in 1991.
        2. 0
          31 August 2022 12: 22
          I remember something else, the British did not like being told what to do, they were especially annoyed that for this they also had to pay money to the European Union for the development of poor countries. There was no talk of migrants at Brexit, as migrants work well in the role of service personnel. And they didn’t say anything about the social security of the poor, as well as about health care, officials did not care about the life of the poor. It was about fishing that Brussels forbids catching a lot of fish, it was possible to catch only the amount indicated by Brussels.
          1. -1
            31 August 2022 15: 05
            migrants work well as service personnel.
            After the reception of Romania and Bulgaria, the Romanian and Bulgarian Gypsies went, and they went for the social. And there were many of them - one who arrived was carrying a dozen relatives with children. Let's add poor refugees who received documents in Greece and Italy and immediately came here for social benefits as Greeks and Italians. The situation developed like an avalanche and began to get out of control. Therefore, quite a lot of people supported the idea thrown by politicians. I saw it all from the inside, living in London.
            Brussels bans fishing
            Brussels allowed the entire EU to fish in the waters of the South Key; as a result, the Spaniards and the French literally raked everything out.
            1. +1
              8 September 2022 22: 06
              Thanks for the view from the scene, information from the media must be checked, they like to direct people's opinions in the direction they need, and not objectively show information.
  8. +3
    30 July 2022 07: 43
    For their production and final assembly of tanks, it is planned to build a new plant.
    Poland is already assembling its Crab self-propelled guns, where the base chassis is the Korean K-9 self-propelled gun, largely unified with the K-2 tank. So, the production of these tanks in Poland is quite possible
  9. +2
    30 July 2022 08: 19
    And everything needs money. In addition, the "diversity" of the tank fleet is growing, and this is again money for infrastructure, maintenance, spare parts and crew training
    1. 0
      30 July 2022 13: 32
      So let the Poles suffer because of this inconsistency, since they didn’t have the mind to choose one brand of MBT. This is all the Polish desire to lick all the hegemons at once, in order to show what correct European Slavs they are.
      Remember what kind of gimor they had when they "designed" their "Crab" - they blinded a hybrid from various Western components from different producing countries.
      They wanted to satisfy everyone, multi-machine guns. laughing
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  11. 0
    30 July 2022 12: 24
    What kind of crisis is there: Poland does not need tanks at all (except for aggression, but against whom?)
    1. +2
      30 July 2022 14: 36
      Quote: iouris
      Poland does not need tanks at all (except for aggression, but against whom?)

      Some strange question. The possibility of the indestructible and legendary reaching the Polish borders in the southeast somehow faded into the background, but the chances of a new movement in this corner of Europe in the coming years are extremely high - and in any scenario, defensive or, hmm, actively-preventively defensive, Poland unlikely to be left behind.
      1. 0
        30 July 2022 20: 23
        Poland can not fight against the Russian Federation. This will be her end. But Russia does not need the territory of Poland.
        1. +3
          30 July 2022 20: 48
          You see, what is there at the ends - this is to Vanga. But objectively, Poland has specific and quite realizable military tasks. It is not a fact that they will be implemented - but their very presence is rare for our time.
          By the way, if someone has forgotten, Poland is a member of NATO, and the problems of the Baltic states are also Polish. Moreover, in the event of political changes in Belarus for some time, it is the Poles who will have to ensure its defense. So yes, the Poles' interest in military matters is quite reasonable.
  12. 0
    30 July 2022 13: 39
    "... first of all, the oldest vehicles were decommissioned and sent abroad. After the serviceable T-72s, newer PT-91s began to be shipped." One hell, that old, that new, or lose, or sell.
    They will throw psheks like suckers! And they themselves create a hemorrhoid with a combined hodgepodge of German, American and Korean tanks - maintenance and upkeep will come back to haunt the suppliers
    1. 0
      30 July 2022 14: 28
      Quote: Black Colonel
      service and maintenance will backfire on suppliers

      Maintaining a T-72 + Tvards + 3 Leo modifications is much more difficult than 3 types of Western tanks. Especially if they resolve the issue with the Americans and put Europack in Abrams - the Korean has just him.
  13. 0
    30 July 2022 16: 42
    By the way, on July 27, Poland signed a framework agreement with South Korea for the supply of equipment worth as much as 15 billion dollars. Where do the Poles get such money from? Even if we assume that the United States somehow compensates for the armored vehicles transferred to Ukraine, it still hurts a lot. Moreover, this amount does not include 500 Himars and other equipment planned for purchase
    1. +3
      30 July 2022 17: 26
      Quote from buv59
      Where do the Poles get such money from?

      15 yards is the usual NATO 2% of GDP. And the contract is not for one year, and taking into account recent events, the Poles are ready to lay more than two percent.
  14. 0
    31 July 2022 01: 39
    Sirs, have you prepared the chaises?
  15. 0
    7 September 2022 13: 09
    In general, the only plant for the production of tanks remained in the United States, according to information for 2019, it was only able to modernize from those produced earlier, and then at a rate of 1 tank per month.
    The production of tanks of the M1 Abrams series (M1A2 SEP) at this enterprise was discontinued for the US Army in 2001, and for export (M1A2 to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) back in 1995.
    In 2019, Trump allocated money for the development of tank production, but so far there have been no public reports about the result.
    So for Poland to buy new tanks in the USA, this is the same as the EU hoping for LNG supplies from the USA, with which they will close the gas shortage in Europe.
  16. 0
    2 October 2022 21: 49
    The planned number of armored vehicles from the jackal of Europe is striking. Moreover, it will be the latest after the appropriate modernization. It is obvious that 1500 MBTs are intended to fight us, and not at all with Ukraine, or forgive me, gentlemen, with Estonia ....
  17. 0
    18 October 2022 17: 46
    And where will these gentlemen get money for such a quantity of new military equipment? What will the US give? One gets the impression that the United States is destroying not only the financial and industrial basis of its ally and competitor Europe, but also seeks to disarm Ukraine through the supply of NATO weapons from European countries to Ukraine without a quick replacement for new types of weapons!