HEL MD Mobile Battle Laser - Phase II will start in 2013 year

Today, the world is rapidly developing the development and testing of various laser systems. Already conducted tests of laser weapons on the ground / water / air / space. Tests show the effectiveness of new developments, and only existing technologies "limit" scientists in the early development of lasers.

At present, there is no sufficiently effective means of protection against rocket weapons, artillery ammunition and mortars. The time of combat use of these decisions is considered in seconds, and it is only enough for the opportunity to hide. Laser beam weapons moves at a speed of 186 000 miles / s, and can accurately and quickly hit the decisions used by the enemy. Another factor "in favor" of a laser weapon should be a supply of shots, which is currently limited only by the power source.

In passing tests according to the developers, problems will be explored with ways to optimally solve the cooling, miniaturization and power source.

The development of laser systems in the United States has been going on since 1970, but it was only in recent years that laser systems began to function successfully as combat weapons. In recent years, they began to use the technology of solid-state lasers, which led to a significant development of laser systems.

Boeing is a company that has long been working in the field of creating innovative developments, has been creating laser weapons for many years. At present, she is successfully developing the project of a mobile laser complex, developed on the basis of the previous Avenger project. A combat laser installed on a mobile platform will be able to destroy and disable a large class of missiles and projectiles, as well as Drones.

Chassis - military vehicle "Hummer", on which the "Avenger" began testing a few years ago. Power predecessor 1kW. This system, called HEL MD, will receive a laser setup in 10 kW. Military truck "Hummer" - a heavy four-axle truck series "HEMMT". Work is continuing on increasing the power of the laser. It is possible that a laser with a power greater than 10 kW will already be installed on the tests.

Work on the creation of a mobile combat laser system is carried out by Boeing together with specialists of the center SMDC. As reported, next year the development program will be transferred to the second phase of the HEL MD program.
The second phase will last for three years. The main goal is to work out the laser power, increase the range of application, improve the overall performance characteristics of the laser system. The beginning of the second phase is 2013 the year in which the field tests will begin, during which they will work out the ability of HEL MD to detect the target, conduct the tracking, hit / destroy the target.

The program is carried out in accordance with the contract for the testing of laser weapons with the command of the US CPR - the creation of a laser mobile gun with a power of 100 kW. Testing 10kW laser will make it possible in the future to seamlessly integrate a laser with a power of 100 kW and more into the system. According to the assignment received from the military, the laser can be used for manpower and light ground equipment of the enemy. By the end of the first year of testing, Boeing must prove to the customer the effectiveness and reliability of the guidance system, and, last but not least, the power supply of the installation. In 2015-2016, real experimental tests of the installation in the military units of the American army are planned.

Information sources:
http://www.dailytechinfo.org/military/4081-kompaniya-boeing-nachinaet-ispytaniya-novogo-vysokoenergeticheskogo-mobilnogo-boevogo-lazera.html
http://rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2012/10/09/505916
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2214523/U-S-Army-soon-using-laser-guns-battlefield.html

Comments

[Yves762]

The laser weapon beam moves at a speed of 186 km / s,

author's competence is unique .....

[kotdavin4i]

Quote: Yves762

at a speed of 186 km / s,

REALLY I SLEEP, has the speed of light already changed?

[Lesorub]

dimension - MILES / sec

[Verde]

The article seems to be transferable. And in the text of 186 MIL / s. Convert miles to kilometers and get a rounded value for the speed of light. Boobies. :) No offense. Just a little more attentive.

[Nord007hold]

The speed of light in a vacuum and in a saturated environment are two different things.

[Dr.M.]

this is your competence, and the author wrote everything correctly. 1 mile (British and American) = 1,6093 km. further explain about 186000 miles/with?

[Kir]

The "author" has a speed in miles and not in km / s, so .......

[Tirpitz]

Well done amers. As the forum did not prove in the near future the impossibility of creating such a system (nutrition and ....). But she was sodalized and will soon be tested.

[gribnik777]

Quote: Roman Dzhereleiko

The development of laser systems in the United States was conducted in the 1970s, but only in recent years, laser systems began to function successfully as military weapons. In recent years, they began to use solid-state laser technology, which led to the significant development of laser systems.

We started such developments in the early 70s using solid-state lasers immediately. Amer, apparently, only now were able to grow crystals of the required size (imagine a crystal perfect purity ~ 1 m long and ~ 10 cm in diameter, and there are several pieces in a bag) Such crystals (ruby) were already grown at that time! Glory to our peasant geniuses !!! The biggest problems were with the sources of pumping (energy). Prototypes of such a gun at a distance of 2 km carried rocket models into chips, and a piece of charred meat remained from the rabbit!
Then there was a lack of current technologies and materials, and with the collapse of the Union, everything went to dust, otherwise we would have had such a gun for a long time !!!

[Rumata]

Quote: gribnik777

Our development began in the early 70s immediately with the use of solid-state lasers. Amer, apparently, only now could grow crystals of the required size (imagine a crystal of ideal purity ~ 1 m long and ~ 10 cm in diameter, and there are several in a packet). Such crystals (ruby)

Well, the first ruby ​​laser was created in the United States, and they were the first to try to implement military use there. Only synthetic rubies for military purposes were refused very quickly, since they are inefficient and require a huge amount of energy to fry a rabbit.
To be fair, it is worth noting that although the USSR was not the first, but in military use (not civilian), they overtook the USA decently and were ahead until Reagan's "Star Wars", when colossal finances went into this industry
Effective military lasers that do not consume energy as a small city appeared not so long ago.

[gribnik777]

Quote: Rumata

Well, the first ruby ​​laser created in the USA

It is not a question of who first made the ruby ​​laser, but the fact that they only after 40 years came to what we had long ago.

[Rumata]

Quote: gribnik777

It is not a question of who first made the ruby ​​laser, but the fact that they only after 40 years came to what we had long ago.

What happened? Mobile laser? The technologies that are used in modern lasers have not been dreamed of in the days of the USSR. This is how to write that the USSR launched a man into space using a computer, and in the United States only 50 years later the i3 processor appeared.

[gribnik777]

Imagine - there was a MOBILE LASER! And there were fingerprints on it. And you hardly have a complete picture of the technologies of those years. Too high vultures stood on them.

[Rumata]

Quote: gribnik777

Imagine - there was a MOBILE LASER! And there were fingerprints on it. And you hardly have a complete picture of the technologies of those years. Too high vultures stood on them.

Of course, I don’t know everything, and I’m sure that there are many classified projects in the USSR / Russia and the USA, but you’re contradicting yourself, since it’s almost impossible to create a ruby ​​mobile laser. This is only possible if the mobile one is a train with a couple of dozens of cars, otherwise you can’t fry a rabbit for 2 km with a ruby ​​crystal. The same neodymium (Nd) was many times more effective and known even then, so you try to recall whether your fingerprints were on a ruby ​​laser and whether it was mobile

[gribnik777]

I see that in this area, to put it mildly ... not really. Want to say I'm delirious? Well, then practice working on the Internet (this is an inexhaustible source of information), it will be useful for you to broaden your horizons and deepen your knowledge.
By the way, there is information about what I said, but I will not give a link in principle!
And on the "train with a couple of dozen cars" look at the photo in the article.
Let's finish this.

[postman]

Quote: Rumata

Quote: Rumata

You argue in vain, in this project about Boeing it is not TTL that is used, but FEL (laser)
This is Free Electron Laser

the radiation source is an electron beam in vacuum, passing through a series of undulators (wigglers), causing the beam to move along a sinusoidal trajectory, losing energy, which is converted into a photon flux. Further, the laser beam, as in other lasers, is collected and amplified by a system of mirrors mounted at the ends of the undulator.

this lady will confirm
Elizabeth merida
Strategic Missile & Defense Systems
703-872-4245
[email protected]
March 2012

[gribnik777]

Quote: Postman

You argue in vain

I talked about what happened almost forty years ago.
Have to sacrifice principles.
About what was read on our website - almost a year ago there was an article:
http://topwar.ru/8946-boevye-kvantovye-generatory-sssr.html
In addition, a lot of information on the internet.

[postman]

gribnik777
You said that in the 70s we did what the Americans could only now achieve.
We did on TTL, they now do on FEL, X-FEL and LED-L.

ABOUT WHAT PRINCIPLES OF SPEECH? (WHICH WILL I HAVE TO GET TO DO)?

Quote: gribnik777

About what was read on our website - almost a year ago there was an article:

AND READ AND WRITTEN
http://topwar.ru/index.php?cstart=5&do=lastcomments&userid=16002#comment

work on the creation of a combat laser (air-based) in the United States
started in the 70s, the Boeing NKC-135ALL (installation of 10 tons in weight and a CO2 laser of 0,4-0,5mW)

[Rumata]

Quote: Postman

You argue in vain, in this project about Boeing it is not TTL that is used, but FEL (laser)
This is Free Electron Laser

I just know a friend above wrote a bunch of everything and contradicts himself. It turns out in the USSR was mobile FEL ...
Thanks for the diagrams, I was sure that this laser was an improved Nautilus, that is, deuterium-floride.

[postman]

Rumata
Hey.
Comrade, of course, is mistaken. There was then no FEL. And to grind forever “Stiletto” and “Sanguin” and others like them and say something like shock systems ... to put it mildly incorrectly ...
Not really my area, however, I personally burned a brush and coins for myself in the laboratory (the brush has healed, there are coins).
In general, we hardly believe in our progress in the 70s and the US regression in the same years. And according to the information that I have (or rather had in 1992), we were not ahead, but rather somewhat behind. And this was due to objective technological reasons and it was proved:
On energy lasers Americans are ahead, maybe. we have termoyad based on tokomak and magnetic compression (roughly speaking)
And they have a ball based on laser heating and compression.
NIF at Lawrence Livermore National Lab (at least)

The first functioning prototype on a ruby ​​was demonstrated on May 16, 1960 by Theodore Maiman (Hughes Research Laboratory). The first medical operation to remove a neoplasm on the retina was performed in December 1961 in a New York hospital.
And to say that the United States is behind and only now caught up, let’s say so is not true.
Again, returning to FEL

Novosibirsk FEL / FEL

70 ps (picoseconds), followed with a frequency of from 2,8 to 11,2 MHz. The average power of the installation at a frequency of 5,6 MHz is 200 kW.

[Rumata]

Quote: Postman

And to say that the United States is behind and only now caught up, let’s say so is not true.
Again, returning to FEL

I'm talking about too. I’m not trying to belittle the merits of Soviet scientists and engineers, but when they write that the USA caught up only after 40 years, this is already too much. It seems to me that SDI in the 80s, and the civilian sector, stimulated the development of this area in the USA, the same FEL was first created at Stanford and they began to look for military applications much later.
Thanks for the interesting comment.

[gribnik777]

Quote: Rumata

It turns out that the USSR was mobile FEL ..

I did not write about FEL lazar, but about TTL.

[ASShur]

In the early 80s, my father was very deeply involved in the activities of the Astrophysics NGO, which was then headed by the son of the "embezzler" Marshal Ustinov. the funds for these "toys" were allocated unthinkable, only the results, really close in parameters to traditional weapons, did not come out. He then saw at work at one of the secret test sites the now well-known Stiletto, then like Sanguine, and later Compression, and a number of other developments, incl. and are still not entirely made public. The degree of paranoia of the Soviet party apparatus around the use of combat lasers was wildest, for example, immediately after Chernobyl, it was suggested that the United States would be able to hit reactors at Soviet nuclear power plants with an orbital complex, money was allocated for this, and research began. With a similar result and conclusions ...

[PN]

To put such a thing on the ISS to protect it from meteorites and space debris.

[Verde]

from meteorites will not help. If only the farewell engraving is burned out at last. Like the Amers love: "For Ussama, his mother"

[tronin.maxim]

AND WE HAVE WHAT TO HAVE IN RUSSIA! Russia is developing combat lasers GSKB Almaz-Antey has resumed the development of an aviation laser complex. According to the newspaper "Red Star", in particular, resumed full-scale field work.

According to the publication, on August 28, 2009, for the first time in domestic practice, a comprehensive experiment was carried out: when a laser beam was directed from a flying laboratory (airplane) onto a spacecraft with a flight altitude of 1,5 km, a reflected signal was recorded. “To prepare this experiment, a flight cycle was carried out in flight to detect and track several dozen spacecraft for various purposes,” the newspaper writes. “When carrying out the indicated work with one hundred percent result, the detection and angular tracking of spacecraft was ensured.”

“The domestic aviation laser complex will maximize the advantages of laser weapons in the interests of solving important tasks of the aerospace defense of Russia,” notes Red Star. The composition of the laser weapon complex includes: a powerful laser, a system for transporting and generating powerful radiation, an information-aiming system, a system for guiding and holding powerful radiation at a target, and an automatic control system.

The work of a typical complex of laser weapons is carried out as follows. According to preliminary target designation information of the optical-mechanical device, it is deployed in the direction of a given target. Aiming system detects a target. Information is transmitted to the executive elements of the guidance system, which automatically accompany the target and combine the optical axis of the system with the direction to the target. At a given time, a powerful laser starts generating radiation. Through a system of mirrors, radiation enters the output telescope with a large-sized reflector, which forms it in a narrow beam in the direction of the optical axis of the system. The guidance system provides stabilization of the beam on the target during the entire period of energy transfer. The guidance system quickly enough changes the orientation of the powerful beam in space, so any protective maneuver of the target is not an obstacle to its destruction.

"Red Star" clarifies that work on the development of lasers was suspended after the collapse of the USSR and the ensuing sharp decline in the domestic economy. “In view of the general sharp reduction in the appropriations for defense programs, the financing of the creation of laser systems from the late 1990s fell to a level that did not allow further development,” the newspaper drowns. Nevertheless, the developers continued to work, taking advantage of significant financial support from the NGO Almaz from extrabudgetary sources.

However, according to experts, the laser combat system, although being developed by Almaz-Antey specialists, is still not included in the state defense order.

[tronin.maxim]

CONTINUED: Laser Against Spies. This summer, American journalists noted that "there is growing evidence that the Russian military has revived the Soviet-era laser project (Sokol-Echelon development work)." As the specialized publication Space Review reported, "in its new incarnation, the beam gun is aimed up at American satellites."

“In many ways, the Beriev A-60 Taganrog Aircraft complex is reminiscent of the American flying laser laboratory Airborne Laser Test Bed, which is a military Boeing 747 with a laser on board,” said Wired Magazine, citing space expert Duane Day. - Both planes have a bulbous fairing in the bow, and a very strange hump in the upper part of the fuselage. The nose of the American laser laboratory opens so that the beam inside the beam can hit missiles approaching the target. But there are no visible holes in the nose of the A-60. Instead, there is “a large thickening in the upper rear of the aircraft, similar to the sliding doors of a 1 megawatt laser turret. The laser is definitely designed to fire upwards at something above the plane, but not sideways and downwards - at ground targets and other planes. ”

According to the expert, the A-60 system "is designed to transmit laser energy to distant objects in order to counter the enemy’s optoelectronic devices." In other words, the laser should blind American spy satellites.

[Igor]

One ball, blah, blah, blah. Amers are in full swing on this topic and the result is visible. And our newspaper clippings can only wipe.

[Rockets]

Quote: Igorek

One ball, blah, blah, blah. Amers are in full swing on this topic and the result is visible. And our newspaper clippings can only wipe.

Blah, blah, you and the writing of the ferry from the Americans.
If the topic is classified, then besides rumors, you will not read about it in tyrnet.
And what they show you suggests that this is PR, and not everything is as rosy as they write about it. You know a lot about the X-37 secret program. Except pictures?
Look in tyrnet for info about the combat lasers of the USSR - and here you need to start writing ferry ^^
The Americans, before the achievements and jambs in the field of combat lasers, the period of the USSR, have only now grown up, with which they can be congratulated ...

[beard999]

Quote: Igorek

One ball, blah, blah, blah

Why do you think so? We have already done a lot - mobile LK “Stilet” (1982), LK “Sanguin” (1983), LK “Akvilon” (1986), LK “Squeeze” (1992), wearable PAPV (1988). And currently, active work on this topic continues. At the moment, by order and with funding from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the 1LK222 complex for A-60 is under development, within the framework of the Sokol-Echelon development project (completion date of 2015), the ground mobile LC as part of the Corrector research project, etc. .

[borisst64]

"will make it possible in the future to easily integrate a laser with a power of 100 kW or more into the system."

And I think the number of problems tends to infinity.

[gregor6549]

For those interested in the history of research in the field of laser weapons "over the hill" I give a couple of links. The links are not exhaustive and in English (for which a separate pardon), but very useful.

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA557756
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

Considering that both the USSR and the USA were well aware of each other's successes in this area, it can be assumed that these developments (and they were part of the SDI "horror story") were carried out in both countries in parallel and with varying success until some time. Let me remind you that the SDI program was perceived by the USSR leadership in about the same way as the program for creating an atomic bomb in the 40s, i.e. neither effort nor money was spared. Then there was a restructuring (so that it!), Which allowed the United States to get ahead somewhat. Although they also had times when these developments either covered up or severely cut their funding. Why am I? And to the fact that on serious issues neither the USA nor the USSR tried to at least keep up with each other. Therefore, the question of who was there first and who was last is purely rhetorical. It has always been and remains important what you will have in your hands on "Day X", and not who first started and who, whom and when overtook. If, of course, you care about the result, not the process.

[DIMS]

Quote: gregor6549

Then there was a perestroika (to her!), Which allowed the States to somewhat advance.

It is still unknown who escaped and who did not. Thanks to Gazprom, we are still developing. http://www.mirprom.ru/public/mobilnye-lazernye-tehnologii.html
Maybe in guidance systems a little behind

[gregor6549]

Of course it is unknown, because all these developments in the USSR and the USA had the highest degree of secrecy. And it’s unlikely that they removed it now. And about guidance systems. Without good guidance systems, the most powerful laser gun has nothing to do. Is it only to hit the squares. Yes, and the link to the laser installations of Gazprom is somehow not encouraging. Too different power levels and applications for these facilities and combat lasers., Not to mention laser beam guidance systems.

[DIMS]

But this does not mean that the developments on the conversion topic will not be useful.

[KA]

Yes, this is nonsense! There was a message that they offered this system to the Israelis, they looked and started to make an "iron dome". For shooting down missiles, mines, shells, etc. they will not be able to make a sufficiently powerful laser yet, and with the existing efficiency of lasers, they will hardly ever make such a powerful laser.
Ours intended to use lasers in a completely different way on planes to destroy satellites (as I understand the optoelectronic and infrared reconnaissance satellites), this is much more promising (more efficient and more realistic)!

[Rumata]

Quote: KA

There was a message that they offered this system to the Israelis, they looked and started to make an "iron dome"

In fact, Israel, together with the United States, have been creating a laser missile defense system since the early 90s, at that time under the name Nautilus. After a long struggle, the Iron Dome won and Nautilus faded into the background, which many now regret.
Nautilus showed himself well back in 2001, when he successfully shot down Katyushas and artillery shells, in 2003 he shot down several mortar shells

[Kir]

I understand, of course, a subscription about loyalty, etc., etc., but only the "blind man" does not see that all the ups and downs of Israel and the states come from the collapse of the USSR, just a lot, even if not brought to the "mind", was stolen from here and continues to arrogant tyrit, there are other options "our" specialists work for the enemies !!!

[Honory]

Well, that’s a practical laser.