British and American radars of the Second World War period used in Soviet air defense

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British and American radars of the Second World War period used in Soviet air defense

During the Second World War, for the timely notification of the air defense forces, guidance of a fighter aviation and anti-aircraft fire adjustments, Soviet, British and American-made radar stations were used. Before the attack of Nazi Germany on the USSR and in wartime, our industry was able to manufacture about 900 radars of various types and purposes. As part of military assistance, the Soviet Union received 2 units of radar equipment from the Allies.

Radars created in the USSR in the prewar period


In 1939, the first Soviet radar designed to detect air targets, RUS-1 "Rhubarb", was put into service. The station, operating in the 75–83 MHz frequency range, consisted of a transmitter and two receivers mounted on a truck chassis. The elements of the station were to be located on the ground in a straight line so that the distance between them did not exceed 35 km. This arrangement created directional radiation in the form of a "radio-frequency curtain", when crossing which the aircraft were detected by the beats of the direct and reflected signals recorded on the paper tape of the device - the undulator.



In 1939–1940 45 RUS-1 radars were produced, for which 275 vehicles were used. In addition to transmitters and receivers, electric generators were placed in cargo vans.


The receiving part of the RUS-1 radar

During the military special operation against Finland, several RUS-1 radars were placed near the contact line. However, the radar station, which worked perfectly in the exercises, turned out to be almost useless in the course of actual hostilities. In April 1940, RUS-1 stations were transferred from observation posts on the Karelian Isthmus for further use in the Transcaucasus and the Far East.

During the Winter War, the RUS-2 Redut impulse radar was also tested. Apparently, this radar made a more favorable impression on the military than the RUS-1 Rhubarb.

All the equipment of the station, which operated at a frequency of 75 MHz, was located on three vehicles: one ZIS-6 (transmitting station) and two GAZ-AAA (in one - an operator's van with receiving equipment, in the second - an electric generator). Pulse power - up to 120 kW. The maximum range is up to 150 km. Range error - 1,5 km, azimuth error - 3°.


Radar RUS-2 "Redut"

The receiving and transmitting antennas are identical - of the "wave channel" type. The operator observed the detected targets on the CRT screen with a horizontal scan. With circular synchronous rotation of both antennas, the RUS-2 station detected aircraft at different azimuths and ranges within the limits of its zone and monitored their movements.

The RUS-2s "Pegmatit" radar was a simplified version of the RUS-2 "Redut" station. Instead of two antennas, the RUS-2s had one transceiver. The tube transmitter was replaced by a thyratron one. During transportation, the elements of the station were placed on two trailers, there were also options mounted on two vehicles and permanently. The ship version of RUS-2 is known as Redut-K. One station of this type was placed on the cruiser "Molotov" pr. 26-bis. From July 1, 1941 to December 18, 1943, the Redut-K shipborne radar detected 1 aircraft in 269 activations.

In total, until 1945, 607 RUS-2 radars of all modifications were produced. According to their characteristics, stations of this type looked quite worthy against the background of foreign analogues. They were used during the Great Patriotic War and in the first post-war years. In terms of technical sophistication and characteristics, RUS-2 compared to the RUS-1 system was a significant step forward, as it made it possible not only to detect enemy aircraft at long distances and at almost all altitudes, but also to continuously determine their range, azimuth and flight speed.

Soviet specialists in the prewar period demonstrated the ability to independently create good radars. But the weakness of our radio industry, which produced a limited range of radio-electronic elements, did not allow us to introduce all the developments in mass samples. The situation worsened after the start of the war with Germany, and imported radar stations, the deliveries of which began in the late autumn of 1942, became a significant help in the fight against enemy aircraft. In addition to being used for its intended purpose, a number of imported samples and individual components were copied, they were subsequently produced at our enterprises.

British radars supplied to the USSR


In a previous publication devoted to anti-aircraft machine guns and cannons, one of the readers rightly pointed out that the supply of equipment and weapons for the Red Army from Great Britain did not belong to Lend-Lease, although they were delivered by the same northern convoys that brought Lend to the USSR - Lease cargoes from the USA. But when we talk about equipment made directly in England, there is no talk of lend-lease

As of the beginning of World War II, Great Britain was one of the leaders in the field of radar. The British armed forces had the opportunity to use an extensive network of air attack warning radar systems, radars were massively used on ships, in aviation and ground defense.

According to information published in British sources, the Soviet Union during the Second World War received four types of British-made radars. Apparently, the first imported radars poisoned in the USSR were the GL Mk. II (Eng. Gun Laying Radar - radar for aiming guns). The presence of these English radar stations on the territory of the USSR at the end of 1941 is confirmed by domestic historical materials.


Gun-guided radar GL Mk. II

Radar station GL Mk. II, which entered service in early 1941, was an upgraded version of the GL Mk. I, which appeared in 1939 and is designed to measure the range and height, as well as the issuance of target designation for anti-aircraft artillery. After the upgrade, the GL Mk. II could independently search for targets at ranges up to 46 km and adjust anti-aircraft fire at ranges up to 18 km. At a distance of 12 km, the target coordinates were measured with an error of 50 m in range and azimuth - 0,5 °. Pulse power - up to 150 kW. The operating frequency range is 54,5 to 85,7 MHz.


Until August 1943, 1 GL Mk. II, about 679 units were sent to the USSR. In our country, English radars received the designation SON-200a (English gun guidance station). In the Red Army, the combat debut of these radars took place in the late autumn of 2, when the SON-1941a radar station was deployed to control the airspace near Moscow.

British radar GL Mk. Our anti-aircraft gunners liked II, and in 1943 it was decided to copy it, although it was not easy. For example, we had to master in production more than 30 types of radio tubes that were new to us at once. Nevertheless, in the first half of 1944, the troops received the first SON-2ot stations, where the letters “ot” meant “domestic”.

Much more advanced was the GL Mk. III, which was put into service in 1942. A total of 876 sets were produced, some of the stations were made in Canada. According to British data, 50 radars of this type were sent to the USSR.


Gun aiming station GL Mk. III

The station equipment was housed in a two-axle van. Parabolic antennas were located on the roof and rotated around a vertical axis, and could also change the angle of inclination. The transition to the operating frequency range of 2–750 GHz improved the measurement accuracy. But at the same time, the maximum range did not exceed 2 km. In the airspace survey mode, information was updated every 855 seconds.


In 1944, an improved modification of the Mk. III(B), which had a longer range. But it was not widely used, as the British military preferred the American SCR-584 radar.

In preparation for offensive and landing operations in North Africa, it turned out that the GL Mk. III is poorly adapted for field use. In this regard, a relatively compact towed radar was developed, known as AA No. 3 Mk. 3 Baby Maggie. British sources claim that the antenna post and the cabin with the hardware and operator jobs were installed on a rotating base borrowed from the radar-guided SLC Mark VI anti-aircraft searchlight. The necessary compactness was achieved thanks to the introduction of an automatic ranging unit. The station itself could be towed by a car with a carrying capacity of 3 tons.


Anti-aircraft searchlight SLC Mark VI

Unfortunately, radar images AA No. 3 Mk. 3 Baby Maggi could not be found, there is only a description. The van was placed on a rotating "column". Antennas were rigidly connected to this "column", and the signals to the monitors of the three operators were transmitted through rotating slip rings.

Radar "Baby Maggie" was able to detect enemy aircraft at a distance of up to 18 km. Also, this radar could be used to determine the coordinates of enemy artillery at a distance of up to 13 km. The first 12 stations were used during operations "Husky" and "Avalanche" during the landings in Sicily and Salerno. However, in the field radar AA No. 3 Mk. 3 did not perform well. The characteristics of the station itself were quite consistent with its purpose. The problem was that the trailer was overloaded and often broke down, unable to withstand towing on bad Italian roads. In total, until March 1945, 172 stations were produced, of which the British sent 50 units to the USSR.

Domestic sources claim that the design solutions used in the Baby Maggi radar were partially borrowed and used to create the domestic P-3 mobile radar, which was put into service in 1945. After the war, the mobile radar was modernized and since 1948 it has been produced under the designation P-3A. The main elements of the station were placed on the chassis of two Studebaker US6 vehicles. The detection range of targets flying at high altitude, in a simple jamming environment, reached 120 km. This station was actively operated in the USSR until the end of the 1950s and was transferred to the allied countries.

The mobile British radars of the AMES Type 6 Light Warning family (also known as LW) were considered very successful. There were self-propelled and transportable versions of this station of 11 modifications. The AMES Type 6 radar was largely inspired by American specialists who created the SCR-602 family of radars on its basis.


Mobile version of the AMES Type 6 radar

In a fully mobile version, all station components were placed on a Fordson WOT 2, Ford F 15A or Chevrolet C. 15A truck chassis.


The radar included two vehicles with equipment and two vehicles with transmitting and receiving antenna posts. Power was supplied from electric generators running on gasoline.

The antenna post of the transportable version was located in a tent. The gasoline power generator was next to the tent.


All options worked in the frequency range 176–212 MHz (wavelength 1,42–1,7 m). Pulse power, depending on the modification, 85–100 kW. Range - up to 35 km.

Apparently, the AMES Type 6 radars were quite successful, their production in the UK continued in the first post-war years. From 30 to 50 stations of this type were sent to the USSR.

American radars supplied to the USSR


The first serial radar operated by the US Army was the SCR-268 (Signal Corps Radio No. 268). Official development of this station began in February 1936. Tests of prototypes lasted from November 1938 to May 1940. After that, it was recognized that the radar as a whole meets the basic requirements.

The station, operating in the frequency range of 195–215 MHz, with a pulse power of up to 75 kW, could detect an enemy bomber at a distance of 36 km. The range accuracy was 180 m, and the azimuth accuracy was 1,1°. The American command considered that with such data, this radar is suitable for adjusting anti-aircraft fire at night and in conditions of poor visibility.

The equipment was placed on three trailers: the station itself - on one, a 15 kW gasoline electric generator - on the other, and a high-voltage rectifier with auxiliary equipment - on the third.


Antenna post radar SCR-268

The SCR-268 radar is mounted on a rotating base and consists of a transmitter, a transmitting antenna, two receiving antennas with a receiver for each of them, and three cathode-beam indicators at the operator's places.

SCR-268 radars were attached to batteries of 90-120 mm anti-aircraft guns, as well as anti-aircraft searchlight units. The station was used in all theaters of World War II, where the American ground forces fought. From February 1941 to April 1944, 2 units were manufactured. Under the Lend-Lease agreement, 974 SCR-25s were sent to the USSR.

The main American radars for detecting air targets during the Second World War were the SCR-270 and SCR-271. These stations were structurally similar and differed in execution. The SCR-270 radar was transportable, and the SCR-271 was intended for stationary use.


Radar scr-xnumx

The SCR-270 and SCR-271 radars operated at a frequency of 106–110 MHz and had a pulse power of up to 300 kW. A large air target flying at an altitude of 6 m could be detected at a distance of 000 km. At a distance of 230 km, the error in range is 120 km, in azimuth - 7,3 °. The information was updated once per minute.


Radar SCR-270 in the stowed position

The SCR-270 equipment set weighed 46 tons and was transported using four heavy trucks. A calculation of 7 people deployed the station in 6 hours.


Workplaces for SCR-271 radar operators

For its time, the SCR-270/271 radars had good performance and satisfactory reliability, and it was widely used as an early warning station. A total of 788 fixed and mobile radars were manufactured. As part of the Lend-Lease, the Soviet Union received 3 mobile and 3 stationary radars.

During the preparation of landing operations in the Pacific theater of operations, it turned out that the USMC did not have compact radars at its disposal suitable for transfer on ships and rapid deployment in the captured bridgehead.

To save time in 1942, the American command decided to use a compact British-made AMES Type 6 Light Warning radar, which made it possible to determine the range and azimuth of the target, as well as the approximate height. The station, designated SCR-602-T1 (VT-158), was intended for temporary use (continuously 500 hours), until the deployment of powerful radars. Power was supplied from a gasoline generator. Licensed production of the SCR-602-T1 radar in the United States was carried out by Eitel-McCullough, Inc.


Radar SCR-602-T1

On the basis of the SCR-602-T1, several more options were created in the United States, of which the SCR-602-T8 radar, which was put into service under the designation AN / TPS-3, became the most successful. When developing AN / TPS-3, attention was paid not only to improving performance, but also to increasing the life of the station.


At the position, the main equipment and the operator's workplace were placed in a tent. The AN / TPS-3 radar antenna was a symmetrical parabolic reflector with a diameter of about 3 m. Operating frequency range: 590-610 MHz. Pulse power - up to 200 kW. An aircraft flying at an altitude of 6 km could be detected at a distance of 100 km. The antenna rotated at a speed of 5 rpm. The equipment was transported in 4 boxes with a total weight of 315 kg.

It was not possible to find exact information on the number of American AN / TPS-3 stations delivered to the USSR. But it is reliably known that the Soviet Union transferred radars of this type to the countries of Eastern Europe, where they were used until the second half of the 1950s.

One of the most advanced surveillance radars used by the US military during World War II was the SCR-527. Trial operation of the first SCR-527 stations began in April 1943. Mass deliveries to the troops of an improved modification of the SCR-527А - at the beginning of 1944.


Antenna post radar SCR-527

This station used two rotating antennas placed on two-axle trailers. One was for transmitting, the other for receiving. The transmitting and receiving antennas were separated by a distance of at least 60 meters. The antennas rotated synchronously at a speed of 3–5 rpm. This radar operated at 209 MHz and had a pulse power of 225 kW. The detection range of large targets in favorable conditions could reach 180 km. To transport all parts of the SCR-527A radar, 7 transport units were required - vans and tractors. The calculation of the station - 8 people. The mass of the station is 44 tons.


The improved SCR-527A radars were most often used for aviation flight control and interceptor guidance. At the final stage of hostilities, these radars were used by the Red Army, and in the post-war period they were operated in Poland and Czechoslovakia.

In May 1943, the SCR-584 radar with a parabolic antenna was handed over for military testing. This mobile radar in the airspace surveillance mode could detect targets at a distance of up to 60 km, however, it was much more often used as a gun guidance station, greatly displacing the early American and British models: SCR-268, GL Mk. II and GL Mk. III. Mass use began in 1944. Sufficiently accurate adjustment of anti-aircraft fire, regardless of visual visibility conditions, was possible at a distance of up to 15 km.


Radar scr-xnumx

The main elements of the station and the operators were placed in a towed van weighing 10 tons. A parabolic antenna with a diameter of about 1,6 m was folded during transportation. The pulse power reached 250 kW. In the operating range of 2–700 MHz, there were four lettered frequencies. In terms of accuracy in determining coordinates and ease of operation, the SCR-2 radar was significantly superior to the then-existing stations of a similar purpose. In the circular view mode, the antenna made 800 rpm. After detecting the target, the conical scanning mode of the airspace and auto-tracking were switched on.


All modifications of the SCR-584 radar could interact with anti-aircraft fire control devices, and later models were interfaced with friend-foe radar interrogators.


SCR-584 radar operators

The combination of SCR-584 radars, director centralized artillery guidance devices and projectiles with radio fuses made it possible to significantly reduce ammunition consumption and increase firing efficiency. So, in August 1944, American batteries of 90-mm anti-aircraft guns located on British territory destroyed 70–80% of the German V-1 “flying bombs” that fell into their zone of fire. At the same time, the consumption of ammunition for one target often did not exceed 100 shells.


Stations established close to the line of contact were successful in pinpointing enemy artillery positions and were used to direct the precision bombing of their heavy bombers in poor visibility or at night.


Radar SCR-584В

A total of three American companies - Westinghouse, Chrysler and General Electric - produced 3 SCR-825, SCR-584A and SCR-584B modification stations. An unspecified number of radars were delivered to the USSR shortly before the end of the war.

Our specialists highly appreciated the capabilities of the SCR-584 radar, and after Soviet intelligence managed to obtain a complete set of technical documentation, this station has been produced by us since 1947 under the designation SON-4.


Gun guidance station SON-4

In terms of its characteristics and layout, the SON-4 largely repeated the SCR-584 and was used to issue target designation to 100-mm anti-aircraft guns KS-19. In the 1950s-1960s, the layout scheme and operating principles similar to those used in the SCR-584 were used to create stations SON-9 (for 57-mm S-60 anti-aircraft guns), SON-30 (for 100- mm guns KS-19M2) and a radar range finder RD-75 (ZRK S-75).
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  1. +1
    21 July 2022 05: 38
    British and American radars of the Second World War period used in Soviet air defense
    It is already time to write an article British and American radars of the NWO period used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    1. +22
      21 July 2022 06: 15
      What is the meaning of irony?
      Dear Sergey, today one of the competent Authors of a military review on technical topics. What's the point of provoking him? The most interesting from someone, but I did not expect this from you.
      Seriously, in continuation of the topic of Sergei, I wanted to read about sea-based radars. After all, we also received them, both with patrol and torpedo boats, and with “smooth decks”. I think the cruiser Murmansk and the battleship Arkhangelsk received by us as part of the reparation of the Italian fleet were also packed with a "bouquet" of new products - which we did not pass by.
      For example, the name of the radar station of Lend-Lease torpedo boats “barrier” is spinning in my head, although it may already be our Bolsheviks. I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that we took, developed and copied “foreign” competencies. It's amazing that they could. And not only to repeat, but also to improve qualitatively.
      For example, the grandfather of our T-34, the American Christie tank. Is it bad? It is trite to compare the American M3 "Grant" and "thirty-four". ……! We still scold our own for a cramped tower, a single tower hatch, a candle pendant.
      It is worth reading the memoirs of the opponents of the Desert Fox about their enthusiasm for the "three-story American barn on caterpillars." The enthusiasm was sincere.
      All friends, thank you! Please - let's take care of the Authors! It is not necessary to love, cherish and cherish, but to cherish is the very thing.
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. +8
        21 July 2022 06: 31
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Dear Sergey, today one of the competent Authors of a military review on technical topics. What the hell to provoke him

        Sergey repeatedly wrote in the comments that for a number of reasons he does not consider it possible to cover what is happening in Ukraine. Although, this is certainly regrettable. It would be interesting to read his competent analysis in terms of the actions of the Air Force and Air Defense of the parties.
        1. +9
          21 July 2022 07: 08
          Good morning!
          I know this very well, which is why I wrote the comment above.
          In other matters, the first post-war domestic torpedo boats made a mistake there, they did not have the Zaslon radar, but were armed with the Zarnitsa detection radar and the Fakel recognition radar: TD-200-bis 1947-51 - 163 units, TK-123K "Komsomolets" 1949-1953 - 155 units. and TK-183 "Bolshevik" - 1952-1960 - 560. The latter in a "full body kit", including radar, was also produced in China and Korea.
          1. +9
            21 July 2022 07: 33

            I found in my archive "Komsomolets" though without radar stations.
            1. +8
              21 July 2022 09: 20
              Hi-tech for those times! The author, we are waiting for a continuation about combat use.
            2. +6
              21 July 2022 12: 33
              Good afternoon, Vladislav! smile

              I found several photographs of "Higginos" and "Vospers", but it is not clear whether they have a radar or not, but on the base minesweeper of the TAM type it is clearly visible.



              Yes, and the "range" of ships of various types delivered to us under Lend-Lease is quite decent. What are at least one escort like "Tacoma".

              1. +5
                21 July 2022 13: 43
                Hello Uncle Kostya. The first torpedo boats were delivered to us without a radar.

                Photograph of a drawing from the book Torpedo pli (edited by Tarasov) of the Soviet torpedo boat TK 254 of the Vosper type equipped with a mast with a SO-13 radar.
                1. +4
                  21 July 2022 15: 20
                  I found another photo - ours are attacking the port of Seishin.



                  The radar is clearly visible.
        2. +16
          21 July 2022 08: 28
          Quote: Tucan
          It would be interesting to read his competent analysis in terms of the actions of the Air Force and Air Defense of the parties.

          For an objective analytical article on this topic, we can now sit down for seven years.
          1. +9
            21 July 2022 08: 57
            For an objective analytical article on this topic, we can now sit down for seven years.

            Vlad was right. Olga, welcome! love Sergey, as usual, is on top - a good article about what few people know about! drinks
          2. +6
            21 July 2022 12: 24
            Good afternoon, Olya. smile love
            Big hello to Sergey and thanks for the excellent article! good

            I join the requests of the men to cover Lend-Lease on naval radars, there is information that they were supplied, but nothing was said on which ships they were installed.
            Yes, there is another question about Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, I know that they had a radar installed and it seemed to detect the approach of Japanese aircraft, but again I don’t have exact information. request

            Good luck to both of you and good health! drinks
            1. +8
              21 July 2022 13: 11
              Nikolai, Kostya, thank you for the kind words! Our summer is in full swing and there is very little time left for "writing". Yesterday I went for mushrooms, there are no boletuses and whites yet, but I scored chanterelles. Today Olya and I were doing business in the store, and in the evening we rode bicycles.
              Quote: Sea Cat
              I join the requests of the men to cover Lend-Lease on naval radars, there is information that they were supplied, but nothing was said on which ships they were installed.

              Kostya, this topic is very interesting and unexplored. But in order to make a normal article about marine radars, you need access to the archives. For this publication, I collected materials "from the world by thread", including in foreign English-language sources. I'm sorry, but I won't take on maritime radars. If you look for information in foreign publications, the work will turn out to be very time-consuming.
              In the near future, I plan to make a review of Romanian air defense. Most likely I will write only about the current state. I see no reason to make a review cycle similar to Poland's air defense, it turns out to be too long and it is interesting to a very limited number of readers. There are also plans to consider air defense systems that Western countries can supply to Ukraine.
              1. +4
                21 July 2022 14: 04
                I'm sorry, but I won't take on maritime radars.

                If Sergey refused, I will not be too lazy to throw below what I have at hand.
                Platonov writes that 30 facts of detection of surface targets from boats, destroyers and large hunters were registered in the north.
                It is fashionable to assume that at least one radar contact led to the defeat of the enemy submarine. At 22.45 on December 8, 1944, the destroyer Zhivuchy, carrying out a passing search at the passage from the throat of the White Sea to the Kola Bay, discovered a surface target with its ROS at a distance of 52 Kb. The destroyer increased its speed to 24 knots and found a submarine at a distance of 3-4kb. The commander decided to ram her. to

                As a result, U-1173 was damaged.
              2. +2
                21 July 2022 15: 06
                If you look for information in foreign publications, the work will turn out to be very time-consuming.

                It's a pity, of course, but you, in any case, know better. drinks
          3. +5
            21 July 2022 12: 45
            Quote: zyablik.olga
            Quote: Tucan
            It would be interesting to read his competent analysis in terms of the actions of the Air Force and Air Defense of the parties.

            For an objective analytical article on this topic, we can now sit down for seven years.

            Probably not so “terrible”, but NWO is akin to a “civil war”, and there are no winners there. Dot over and squander time.
            1. +8
              21 July 2022 13: 14
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              Probably not so “terrible”, but NWO is akin to a “civil war”, and there are no winners there. Dot over and squander time.

              Vladislav, hello! I agree, it will be possible to talk about this only when everything is over, and then not immediately. Olya, unfortunately, does not exaggerate, in our country they go too far in a number of ways, and people are sometimes judged even for publishing open materials.
            2. +3
              21 July 2022 15: 10
              Yes, not akin, my friend, namely the Civil War, with all its abomination and meanness.
      2. +9
        21 July 2022 07: 55
        I wanted to read about sea-based radar
        good strongly support!
      3. +4
        21 July 2022 09: 17
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        What is the meaning of irony?

        Didn't even have a thought, just a statement of fact
        1. +5
          21 July 2022 12: 15
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          What is the meaning of irony?

          Didn't even have a thought, just a statement of fact

          Then excuse me, then I was sincerely surprised when I read your first comment on the article.
          I'm even glad I was wrong.
  2. +14
    21 July 2022 06: 25
    Judging by what the article says, in the USSR in the late 30s and early 40s there was a scientific and production base that made it possible to create radars on their own. But but in wartime, domestic radars were not enough. Import deliveries made it possible not only to cover urgent needs, but also made it possible to copy the most successful samples.
    1. +10
      21 July 2022 07: 28
      Yes there was!
      I won’t write much about land, the floor of the sea read the following.
      Before the war, we were armed with exactly one Redut-K naval radar of 1940 (sea version of RUS-2) installed on the Molotov cruiser. According to Platonov, for 1269 inclusions, she discovered 9383 aircraft. Sometimes it worked flawlessly up to 20 hours a day with a detection range of up to 120 km. With the cruiser, a wired telephone connection was even organized with the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet.
      During the war, our sailors received another (or only) three domestic radars "Guys-1", installed on the destroyers Strict, Loud and Ryany. Few? Yes, not much, but dug up is better than nothing.
      As I wrote above, we received the rest of the stations with foreign ships and boats. At least five types of British and American detection radars and 4 fire control stations (3 British and one from the USA with Murmansk). There was even an aviation guidance radar in Arkhangelsk !!! Have we studied them? The answer is yes! We would be "short-sighted people" if we missed this opportunity.
    2. +8
      21 July 2022 10: 33
      Quote: Tucan
      Judging by what the article says, in the USSR in the late 30s and early 40s there was a scientific and production base that made it possible to create radars on their own. But but in wartime, domestic radars were not enough.

      Not even what was missing - part of the pre-war developments simply could not be produced with the outbreak of war. So, due to the evacuation of NII-9, the centimeter range was "lost" - there were no klystrons. As a result, the aviation "Gneiss" had to be redesigned for the existing base of the meter range.
      1. +5
        21 July 2022 12: 18
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: Tucan
        Judging by what the article says, in the USSR in the late 30s and early 40s there was a scientific and production base that made it possible to create radars on their own. But but in wartime, domestic radars were not enough.

        Not even what was missing - part of the pre-war developments simply could not be produced with the outbreak of war. So, due to the evacuation of NII-9, the centimeter range was "lost" - there were no klystrons. As a result, the aviation "Gneiss" had to be redesigned for the existing base of the meter range.

        Reading how many developments only on navigational instruments, we lost because of the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, even our hands drop.
  3. +4
    21 July 2022 06: 42
    The tube transmitter was replaced by a thyratron
    A thyratron is the same lamp as a diode, triode, etc. pentodes, I remember in my youth I collected light music on them (thyratrons) ...
    1. +10
      21 July 2022 09: 07
      The thyratron is a gas-filled lamp, and diodes, triodes and other pentodes, as well as magnetrons, fantatrons, klystrons, etc. These are electrical devices. Well, the drives are different. The thyratron is usually used with an IDL (artificial long line), and for electrovacuum devices, as a rule, capacitors are used. In general, it must be said that so far in our serial radars of the same LEMZ, there are copies of American transmitters from the WWII era. As far as I know, only Lira-T replaced the glass thyratron with a ceramic one. And by the way, the transmitter is almost the most reliable node in the locators of the Saturn, Sword, Lyra family. Change magnetrons with thyratrons according to the regulations, and it will never fail at all. There is nothing more to break.
      1. +4
        21 July 2022 10: 53
        Ueli, somehow I didn’t think that the thyratron was not an electrovacuum device, I identified it by the wrong principle))) good
  4. +3
    21 July 2022 09: 36
    What was the RUS-1 station "guilty" of in the winter of 1939?
    And how was their service in the "secondary" sections of the USSR?
    1. +8
      21 July 2022 10: 43
      The stations were located along the border. Due to the short distance from the border to Leningrad, the air defense did not always have time to get ready to repel the raid. Plus, the very principle of operation - target detection by interrupting the beam, is rather flawed. Unlike the impulse scheme, it does not provide information on coordinates, but only allows you to fix the very fact of the passage of the target and very approximately give information on the azimuth. And of course, noise immunity in those days was a very weak point of all radars. Anti-aircraft gunners had to respond to both real and false alarms. And the second was much more.
      1. +4
        21 July 2022 11: 12
        Of course, not the above-described products of "sworn friends". But if they began to develop their own detection systems, then there was a concept of their need.
        And the "first com" is the most difficult ...
        Especially with the development of radio and electronic industry in the USSR.
        1. +9
          21 July 2022 11: 37
          Yes, the USSR had a normal level at that time in this area, quite comparable to the world level. The first English radars, which stood along the coast, worked on the same principle. Another question is that the industry could not pull out the required volume of supplies, especially in war conditions.
          1. +4
            21 July 2022 12: 20
            I completely agree with you - the industry of the USSR could not always satisfy the needs of the army and the national economy.
            Starting from motorcycles and ending with radar.
          2. +1
            22 July 2022 12: 32
            Quote: Yakut
            Yes, the USSR had a normal level at that time in this area, quite comparable to the world level.

            In development and experimental work - yes, approximately at the level. But the main problem was in serial production. The same "Gneiss-1" and the entire centimeter range of the radar rested on the pilot production of one research institute - the industry could not give anything at all.
        2. +5
          21 July 2022 12: 33
          Quote: hohol95
          Of course, not the above-described products of "sworn friends". But if they began to develop their own detection systems, then there was a concept of their need.
          And the "first com" is the most difficult ...
          Especially with the development of radio and electronic industry in the USSR.

          Good afternoon! Marine "Redoubt", aka RUS-2, confidently caught a whole at a distance of 100 kilometers, which is an order of magnitude more than its peers "British". True accuracy shook. In terms of range, the error can reach 15000 meters, in degrees up to ~ 7. His British counterpart "281", having similar range readings, made an error of ~ 0,5-1 in degrees. However, the Englishman could only work at a distance of 6000 meters instead of our 64 - 128 km.
          1. +3
            21 July 2022 18: 06
            In terms of range, I put one extra zero, I confess negative
          2. +2
            21 July 2022 20: 27
            I don’t know how things were with radar in Italy, but in the Japanese Empire, the military was not at all interested in it.
            Until the "fried carp" bit for the causal place.
            And they began to copy captured copies.
            In view of the rare, for Japan, mutual understanding between the fleet and the onshore army, in copying captured radars, the Japanese produced 7500 copies of as many as 30 types.
            Information wargaming "Radars of Japan".
  5. +6
    21 July 2022 12: 16
    The general designer of the first domestic missile defense system G.V. Kisunko in 1941 served in the 337th orb of the VNOS. According to his recollections, the battalion was armed with RUS-2, RUS-2s radars and three English MRU-105s. Apparently MRU-105 is the GL-Mk-II.
  6. +7
    21 July 2022 12: 20
    Good day, Sergey,
    here is the question: were there any problems during the operation of the British and American stations in the Red Army?
    Were the staff qualified enough to work with them? after all, as I understand it, it’s a rather complicated thing for that time and trained personnel are needed? hi
    1. +7
      21 July 2022 13: 20
      Quote: Mihaylov
      Good day, Sergey,
      here is the question: were there any problems during the operation of the British and American stations in the Red Army?
      Were the staff qualified enough to work with them? after all, as I understand it, it’s a rather complicated thing for that time and trained personnel are needed? hi

      Sergey, hello!
      But I don't know, maybe they were. But in the radio engineering units they recruited those who had a specialized education and knew which part of the soldering iron to take. I don't know about the American ones, but the British stations generally proved to be positive. Otherwise, they would not be copied.
      1. +4
        21 July 2022 14: 56
        Quote: Bongo
        But those who had a specialized education and knew which part of the soldering iron to take on were recruited into the radio engineering divisions.

        And how many calculations served such a station?
        In total, during the Second World War we had about 3 thousand stations (900 of our own and 2074 supplied), it is clear that not all of them "fought" at the same time. Probably, in the second half of the war, the saturation of the front with them was already quite sufficient, or was it still not enough?
        1. +3
          22 July 2022 10: 33
          Quote: Mihaylov
          And how many calculations served such a station?

          At different stations, from 9 to 15 people - this is apparently with drivers who also served gas generators.
          Quote: Mihaylov
          In total, during the Second World War we had about 3 thousand stations (900 of our own and 2074 supplied), it is clear that not all of them "fought" at the same time. Probably, in the second half of the war, the saturation of the front with them was already quite sufficient, or was it still not enough?

          This is most likely taking into account the naval stations, there were much fewer of them on the land theater. It must be understood that some of the stations were lost in the fighting and went out of order "for natural" reasons. According to my estimates, there were no more than 600 stations in the troops that were really capable of issuing warnings in a timely manner and controlling the actions of their aviation. It must be understood that not all of them were constantly combat-ready. It is a lot or a little, taking into account the length of the front and the range of the radar, judge for yourself.
          1. +1
            22 July 2022 12: 41
            Quote: Bongo
            This is most likely taking into account the naval stations, there were much fewer of them on the land theater. It must be understood that some of the stations were lost in the fighting and went out of order "for natural" reasons. According to my estimates, there were no more than 600 stations in the troops that were really capable of issuing warnings in a timely manner and controlling the actions of their aircraft.

            Moreover, apparently, most of the radar went to the country's air defense. Front-line VAs had no more than a dozen radars per army, and in most cases even less. Separate IAK - one or two radars per hull.
            Prior to the Berlin operation, full-time radar stations from the air armies were attached to the fighter aviation corps for the period of the operation, which carried out the task of gaining air supremacy over the battlefield and covering the strike groups of ground forces. Radar stations were used mainly in a system of single radar stations for detection and guidance without a common connection with other radar stations.
            For the first time, radar stations were used according to the system of detection and guidance nodes during the Berlin operation of 1945 in the 16th Air Army.
            In preparation for this operation, the number of radar stations in the 16th Air Army was brought up to nine. By the beginning of the operation, they were reduced to three radar nodes for detection and guidance.

            So, if in 1944 the command posts of fighter aviation formations had one, and some had two Redut radar stations, then in 1945 the command posts of all fighter aviation formations, as a rule, had two radar station "Redut".
            © Radar support for aviation during the Second World War.
    2. +4
      21 July 2022 15: 53
      Good day, Sergey,
      here is the question: were there any problems during the operation of the British and American stations in the Red Army?

      Leafing through home reference books, I saw an interesting characteristic of the radar of the times of the Second World War - the maximum duration of continuous operation. Everyone has five to twenty hours! So the operation and debugging of such systems is amazing.
      1. +3
        22 July 2022 10: 28
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Leafing through home reference books, I saw an interesting characteristic of the radar of the times of the Second World War - the maximum duration of continuous operation. Everyone has five to twenty hours! So the operation and debugging of such systems is amazing.

        This is quite predictable. Even the P-18 (not upgraded) has an MTBF of 100 hours.
      2. +4
        22 July 2022 12: 55
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Leafing through home reference books, I saw an interesting characteristic of the radar of the times of the Second World War - the maximum duration of continuous operation. Everyone has five to twenty hours! So the operation and debugging of such systems is amazing.

        He-he-he ... in the reports on the results of the battles of 1942, the commander of "Big E" constantly complained that the radar either did not work at all, or its detection range was less than that of optics. And in general, it is impossible to provide proper conditions for the operation of such delicate devices on a ship. smile
  7. +7
    21 July 2022 15: 01
    Thanks for the interesting article. I didn’t know about this side of the Second World War before, so I’m grateful that now they’ve clarified it at least a little. In films and books, more and more about the exploits of pilots, but those who followed the sky are somehow bypassed)))
  8. +5
    21 July 2022 21: 54
    Last year at the dacha I came across "Science and Life" of the late 80s and early 90s with memories of the author's service at the radar station in the war near Leningrad. It will be necessary to find those magazines at the weekend ... Thank you very much for the work Sergey! Very interesting!
  9. +5
    21 July 2022 23: 13
    Kote pane Kokhanka (Vladislav), dear, with the first AM-type minesweepers built in the USA, there was the same problem. The first 5 ships (from T-111 to T-115) came independently from Florida to the Kola Bay on 30.10.1943/116/117. T-54 and T-24.11.1943 came from Iceland with convoy JW-118-A on 119/120/57. T-29.02.1944, T-1, T-1944 with convoy JW-111 came to Polyarny on February 113, 115. The SL-116 radar was installed in the USSR in 117 on: T-119, T-XNUMX, T-XNUMX, T-XNUMX, T-XNUMX, T-XNUMX.
    Yes, today we scold our ship repairmen for the long repair of ships. Dear Sea Cat (Konstantin) posted a photo of the basic minesweeper of the TAM type. The minesweeper T-105 of the Federation Council of the USSR (former whaler "Shusa") came with the convoy PQ-12 to Murmansk on 12.03.1942/24.11.1942/1943. On November 402, 1952, he was thrown onto the coast of Danilov Island by a strong storm. The damage was significant, rescue operations had to be interrupted due to freezing. The ship was disarmed and left for the winter. In the summer of 105, he was refloated and towed to plant number 1945 in Molotovsk (now Sevmash in Severodvinsk). The minesweeper was commissioned again in XNUMX. The example of the T-XNUMX is also an argument in a dispute with those who claim that all the Lend-Lease equipment was returned to the Americans in XNUMX, and they put it right on the pier - under pressure.
    1. +3
      22 July 2022 01: 26
      Under the terms of lend-lease, only equipment that survived the war returned. And in 1945, the question ship stood for repairs after the accident.
    2. 0
      22 July 2022 06: 44
      today we scold our ship repairmen for the long repair of ships. The cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" has been under repair since 1999. Well, this is normal. It will be more wholesome.
  10. +1
    22 July 2022 01: 10
    "The stations installed near the line of contact successfully identified the positions of enemy artillery"

    How about? Does anyone know if this is the mode of the station? What was the signal from?
    1. +3
      22 July 2022 10: 26
      Quote: stankow
      How about? Does anyone know if this is the mode of the station? What was the signal from?

      Station SCR-584 was tacoga regime, that its signal was reflected from artillery shells, on the basis of which a notch was made of the coordinates of the artillery position.
      1. 0
        26 July 2022 12: 12
        Where did you read? It is doubtful that both air defense and artillery ... And pls do not scoff at mistakes!
        1. 0
          27 July 2022 10: 09
          Quote: stankow
          Where did you read? It is doubtful that both air defense and artillery ..

          Doubt, it's up to you. But I'm not into fantasies. I bet a bottle of good cognac, or any other drink of your choice. You are ready?
          1. 0
            27 July 2022 17: 51
            Why, you, you Author, words of respect for you wink Just tell me where to read :)
            1. 0
              28 July 2022 03: 20
              In preparing this publication, I mainly used English-language sources and do not want to dig them again. If you have a keen desire, you can score in a search engine in English - "combat use of the SCR-584 radar."
              1. 0
                30 July 2022 13: 16
                It seems that they were used for ballistic research after the war. It is possible to detect a projectile, but to calculate the firing point, a complex calculator is needed, which was not available at this station during the war.
                1. +1
                  30 July 2022 14: 20
                  Quote: stankow
                  It seems that they were used for ballistic research after the war. It is possible to detect a projectile, but to calculate the firing point, a complex calculator is needed, which was not available at this station during the war.

                  You are wrong. The SCR-584 operator saw the projectiles on the trajectory and could determine the place where the shot was fired from. Another question is that at that moment he himself was in the range of artillery fire.
                  1. 0
                    31 July 2022 16: 03
                    Seeing is not enough. It is necessary that the system captures the projectile in the equisignal zone and follows for some time (problematic). Then automatically or manually take azimuth, elevation angle and slant range. Then, using several points, solve the difur and find the trajectory function. Then set the initial condition "height above the terrain" - zero. Solve the system and find the coordinates of the beginning of the trajectory (OP) or end (goal). Manually, graphically, maybe they did. Teachings, ballistics. After the war. For half an hour on the projectile. And then they added a calculator, first an analog one. And the art reconnaissance radar was born.
  11. 0
    22 July 2022 13: 32
    For a very long time (more than one decade), driving along one of the streets in the area of ​​\u4b\uXNUMXbthe Sokol metro station, I saw the top of a kung sticking out over the fence and a pedestal with a parabolic antenna of the SON-XNUMX station (and maybe the American herself). Haven't been there in a long time, maybe now...
    1. 0
      22 July 2022 15: 09
      Quote: bbss
      For a very long time (more than one decade), driving along one of the streets in the area of ​​\u4b\uXNUMXbthe Sokol metro station, I saw the top of a kung sticking out over the fence and a pedestal with a parabolic antenna of the SON-XNUMX station (and maybe the American herself). Haven't been there in a long time, maybe now...

      It could also be the Kristall space communications station.
  12. +1
    24 July 2022 23: 26
    At the dacha I found No. 8 for 1991 "Science and Life", pp. 43-46, author G. Gelfenstein "Radars enter the battle". The author worked for "Redoubt-3" in July 1941 near the village of Logi in the area of ​​the Luga Bay. On September 21, 1941, the station stood at the village of Bolshiye Izhory. The author was a senior operator, the operator in his shift was V. Mayorov. About 250 fascist planes were recorded taking off from the Luga side, from the airfields of Krasnogvardeysk and Siverskaya, the data were transmitted by telephone to the air defense headquarters of the KBF, an air raid was announced in a timely manner, a massive air strike from 3 directions on Kronstadt by the Germans failed. On September 22 and 23, the Germans again tried to strike at the ships, but their takeoff did not go unnoticed by radar. The bow turret of the main caliber of the battleship "Marat" was put out of action, 3 German aircraft were shot down by aviation and anti-aircraft artillery in 35 days of raids. The station commander was junior lieutenant Gusev, military engineer D. Lyutoev, senior operators B. Koryagin, L. Kozachkov, the author of the article, operators - V. Mayorov, P. Shakalov, V. Orlov.
  13. +3
    24 July 2022 23: 47
    stankow (stan), dear, especially considering that 6 American minesweepers of the YMS type arrived at our Baltic Fleet bases in July 1945, and 6 at the Black Sea Fleet bases in August 1945. 10 minesweepers of the MMS-126 type were transferred to the USSR Black Sea Fleet after the end of the war. The last four ships were accepted by Soviet crews in February-March 1946... History, our entire history, very often the history of Lend-Lease, is still full of not just white spots, but whole white wide stripes. You start to understand a little - and you remember the lines: "Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have ..."
    1. +1
      27 July 2022 18: 25
      I agree with you. He only clarified what was in the Lend-Lease agreement. And during its implementation (and completion) what just happened. After all, the bill went to hundreds of thousands of units of cars ...
  14. 0
    25 July 2022 02: 55
    Quote: Tucan
    It could also be the Kristall space communications station.

    I have not seen this station and therefore can not say anything. But I don't think so. The fence, from behind which the kung peeked out, encloses the territory belonging to the MAI. So most likely this is one of the tutorials.